May 9, 2024 • 38 mins
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Speaker 3 (00:49):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yes, a huge night in the NBA. One game, but
we really only had room for one game. The Knicks
out last the Pacers one thirty to one twenty one.
They take a two games to nothing lead in the
East Semis. However, tons of concern as Oganunobi left tonight's
game with an injury. And you know I've already seen
(01:10):
all the doctors that are on uh uh oh the
Twitter are out already.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Oh, I thought they wait till NBA season. I thought
they were in hibernation.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, no, no, no, they're out now going. I see
that it looks like he's going to be out the
rest of the series. It looks like this is the
hamstring strain will keep him out for a while. Now,
it's gonna have an MRI. Did go in for a layup,
had a hamstring strain, came out of the game. And look,
Anunoby is a guy that transformed the Knicks when when
they obtained him, and having him healthy has been the difference.
(01:41):
He's been one of the Iron five guys that's playing
basically the entire game. Look, this is why I say
this series does not feel over. And if I'm being
quite honest, I say, does the Knicks Pacers series feel
It doesn't because it does it feel like it's over
you or does it feel like the Pacers can go
in and win Game three, in Game four by twenty
points and suddenly we're back at MSG for Game five.
(02:02):
But that's just it.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Even with the margin of victory today, right free throws
down the stretch, couple of big buckets. Whatever it was
fought for forty seven minutes. I mean there's there's no
Quinn on either side of this, and.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Especially if the Knicks are this, I mean, like it
is it to think about no Randall, no Mitchell, Robinson,
no Bogdanovich. I don't Nobe is hurt now, and who
knows how long Brunson's dinged up and they're still winning game.
It's like again, it's like the horror movie why won't
You die? No, we're not going to die well, and.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
You'd been working well and the team had rallied around
I mean the absence of Julius Randall to where you've
kind of wanted him traded for spare parts or maybe
some street meat at this point. But the rest of
these guys, Yes, to your point, Your seven guy rotation
continues to shrink.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Look they're hurt. Look the Knicks are dinged up. I
can easily see. Look I can see the Knicks sitting
Brunson for Game three if they feel they have to.
I don't think there's any way and Unobi plays no.
I think game three is one of those games. Are listen,
we're up to nothing and we really need some time.
Because it's not just that the Knicks the Knicks stars
are playing all these minutes. These are all heavy minutes.
(03:13):
There's no there's not a lot of easy but Lebron minutes.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
You know, Rick Buker joked about months ago.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
There's not a lots of easy buckets for the Knicks.
They have to continually move the basketball and fight. These
are these are heavy forty five and four. Not that
you'd say they're not heavy, but they're heavier than a
lot of other people playing forty five minutes would be.
So yeah, I can see the Knicks on on Friday going, Yeah,
Alec Burks is gonna play, let's go deep into the bench.
Chris Childs will play a little bit, Charlie Ward will play.
(03:42):
Oh maybe you'll be outstanding. Look at these guys coming.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Back to play, and we can get that NBA NFL
argument going again.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But Steve Novak will play a few minutes.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
But again, the schedule for games four and five is
what made decide that that whole process for Thibodeau and
for the Knicks in terms of brunts and his availability
and how about you try to push Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Look I can see, hey, suddenly game five we're two
to two back at MSG. That's why I say, this
is a magic carpet ride that will last as long
as it does for the man two more games that.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Wins, as long as.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It goes right, that wins. That's how it is now.
I do want to say this, though, doesn't Nicola yok
who won his third straight MVP three out of four,
three out of four, sorry, his third MVP overall, doesn't
Nicola yolkicic after the right thing and give the trophy
to Jailer.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Wrong?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, does he have to give it to bruns He
doesn't have to say, listen, I don't know why I
got all these votes. Thank you so much, but here's
the real MVP. And he hands a trophy to Brunson,
who comes over, limps over and holds it up and says,
thank you. I am the rightful owner of this trophy.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Here the MVP tr Mehet the rewind two hours ago
when we were talking about a sequence where Haliburton got
four arms shivered in the back by heart and remember
he's got backspasms, so breathing on and might have sent
him to the to the ground. Either way, he gets
the file, gets the fall shots and you said, hey,
you sound so fool.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I'm bringing that right back on you, right now.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, I think he should think you're just I think
he do the right thing and say.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Do the right thing. Here an MVP award.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I am I I did not or this is not
my MVP. This is somebody else's name on this trophy.
Right when when Ving Raims did that for Jack Lemon,
right when he didn't feel like a I shouldn't have
won the Golden Globe, right he won for Best Supporting Actors.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
It was a Golden Globe.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And he said, yeah, it's true, it wasn't an Oscar.
You're not giving back an Oscar. But still to give
back a Golden Globe and say, no, mister Lemon, this
is yours the clatform and Jack Lemon came up.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Shut up and Jack Lemon, especially when he was cursing
at Walter Mathow and hanging around with Anne Margaret, I.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Mean, POSI. I was kind of surprised that Lemon actually
came up there, not only took the trophy but gave
us speed. Well why not.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
It's a little weird, but still it's one of the
greatest moments in Awards show history.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
All right, all right, And he asked me to come
up here I'm up here now.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's what Jokic has to do. No, no, Jalen, this
is your MVP. It is not mine, it is your
v It's not.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Mine, Jalen.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I may pass the George to you next year, but
it's not mine. This is mine beating now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I got a great hot take for you.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
He did finish nobody.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I know again again they sold him short. He should
have finished a lot higher. Well, he should have been
ahead of Giannis.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
But when you talk about you know, Gildas, Alexander, Luca
and Jokic, I mean I had him coming in fourth.
So the fact that Yanni's clipped him there was a
little surprising, but you know, the narrative is now built
for next year.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Buddy.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Look, what do you think I would rather have Brunson
winning the MVP and down two going on the road
in the playoffs, or Yokic winning the MVP and we're
up to Zip in the second round. But the Nuggets
are going home. Man, They're going home in a couple
of nights. That's his consolation trophy this year.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Congratulations, you were in the regular season MVP and now
they're beating you up from pillar to post. And you
guys have no answer. By the way, go Bear will
be back. You know, they got the one defensive player
of the year.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Even though maybe he's overrated and they don't need him
after what they did in game two.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
No, a lot of discussion about that after going through
the particulars. But uh, and the way they beat them
down in game two. But you know what, Jokic gets
to win this one.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
And there's a lot of people doing their handwringing and
sadness about it because now this puts him in this
air with this guy and that guy and the other guy.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
It's like, calm down, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, here's the thing. This is what I think. I
got a great hot take for Jalen Brunson coming up
for you in a few minutes. Like it's it's it's
an awesome hot take. Really okay, but oh yeah, wait,
do you hear this hot take?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
You're gonna love You should be Captain America.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
He already is Captain America. Come on, man, I mean it's.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I mean, he was the highest vote.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You he just throws the basketball instead of the shield.
The basketball comes back to him all the time. Uh.
What I think of when when I when I see
Jokic winning his third MVP in four years, right, it's
great that the that the voters see the brilliance of
him because you have to watch him in a game
and see how he affects almost every play and how
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despite the fact that he doesn't look like a guy
that can get out on a three if he needs
to work and make a big bounce pass or see
the court, it's almost like he's a He's a taller
version of Brunson. He's not overwhelmingly athletic. He still runs
a little awkward up and down the floor, but he
finds a way to make plays that nobody else can make.
But when I see him winning, and he wins three
out of four, I say to the first thing I
(08:18):
thought of today was, man, it is a different era
in the NBA, because if he's won three out of
the last four, like, how the hell did Shack not
win at least three maybe four MVPs in his a day.
There was such an anti shackness going on because when
he came into the league, there was a lot of
(08:38):
he doesn't take the game seriously enough, he doesn't get better.
He was very puffed different. But that guy never but
that never ends, right, So I'm saying, but he was.
He was incredibly polarizing, right. He had that mid career
moment of clarity where he said, you know, I can't
I can't sit here on the Magic I'm never gonna win.
I Gotta go someplace where I can win. He goes
(08:59):
to the Lakers, he wins championships, goes on to win
another on with the Heat. But in his heyday, he
was the best player in the NBA. He was unstoppable
in his prime, and he should have probably won MVP
three or four times. But because there was such an
anti bias against him, because some of the players didn't
like him. It's a lot of fans and I can't
(09:20):
get over how polarized was just because he was fun. Oh,
he doesn't take the game seriously. It doesn't work as
hard as he should. He does movies in the offseason.
It's like, what are we really focusing on? But that
was a thing during Shaq's heyday in the nineties early
two thousands. That's what people thought of him. Oh, you
should Shack be the captain the Lakers or Kobe. Kobe's
just working hard and getting better, and Shaq is off
(09:42):
doing movies, and I know that that bled into voting, right.
I know that bled into voting right like the absolutely
it should have gone from Jordan winning MVP every year,
you know, and winning the finals, to Shack winning MVP
every year. But he didn't. And there's no reason why
other than the fact there was such a huge anti
Shaq movement out there from voters because he was polarizing.
(10:03):
That would never happen now. If Shaq was Shack now,
he would he would feel like, boy, what an unbelievable
fun superstar. He'd be even more fun. Joelle embiide, if
he was around now, he would be funny. He rap,
he's got, you know, he would. He does appearances on
television shows, He danced with the Jabbawaukees. He does so
much fun stuff. But it didn't translate when he was
(10:26):
playing because it was just a different time during his
reign now twenty years ago. So if he came up
around now, yeah, he'd be Joki winning MVP after MVP
or three out of four where it is. But because
there was such an anti Shack sentiment, he wound up
with one and I felt like they gave it to him. Begrudge,
and well, we got to give it to him at
least once. Here, all right, we'll make it almost unanious.
(10:46):
And still Fred Hickman wouldn't even vote for the voting
for Alan Iverson. I mean, come on, they couldn't even
get a unanimous one there. I felt like that was
all right, we'll give him one, right, but that's it.
We're not gonna get another one. We'll finally get one
when he really should have had three.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Split with Kobe two D And look, the backlash on
Shaquil O'Neill was, as you said, it's like, well.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Could he work harder? Could he be greater?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
He's great, but man, imagine if he really worked and
got a little bit of a jump shot or actually
hit free throws, if he actually put the time in
blah blah blah. As opposed to recognizing the greatness for
what it was, right, It's like when we do the
historical I was like, well, you know, Will.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Chamberlain was just taller than everybody else, that's how he's dismantled.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Or Kareem abdul Jabbar, he was taller and he had
the unblockable, unstoppable shot. That's just unfair. Or super teams
or just whatever. The argument becomes to dismiss guys along
the way. Shaquille O'Neill has had that forever. I mean,
you look at it and go back and watch the
video of him just running over people, and again goes
(11:48):
back to my old argument of I can throw three
hundred and fifty pounds of ass at you and it's
not a file as I knock you off the block.
But if I face you and I get you eye
to eye and knock you over, it's an off never
understood it, but he used it to his advantage brilliantly.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah. Oh, he's so big. It's like, okay, so so
for all the for all the oh look at him size,
he just has that advantage. Oh look at Steph Curry
does what he does. He's so small you No, I
get it. That's great, that's all great. But I can't
penalize a guy because he's bigger and he makes play
like bigger people. That's how it works, right, Oh, this
guy's better because he's six three, this guy's six two,
(12:24):
this guy six's one. I can't believe it. I mean,
it just doesn't make sense. But when when people want
to find a way to say something bad about you
or not like you. They will find a way, they'll
find some way to justify it. And I feel bad
because really, Shack should have had all that hardware. Man,
all that hardware. He's done, Okay, I think, Oh, I'm
not saying easy, but I'm saying, if you want to
be real about the MVP, because you know, players care
(12:45):
about the NBA more than anything else in the NBA,
I mean you really should be realistic and go. It
should have been Jordan for like, you know, five years
in a row, then two years off, then three more
years in a row. Then it should have been Shacked
for five or six years, and then you can give
it to Duncan once in a while.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
How about giving money two to Kobe. Don't get me started.
Go Santa Clara Bronto's baby. Come on now, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
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That's what I think of when I think of Yoka
twinning is how many more Shacks should have really won.
But coming up next, it's taken a while. I'm sure
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(13:30):
Yoka twinning, MVP.
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what's happening bud Well?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
First of all, I want to apologize. I was supposed
to be all with you guys a little earlier, but
I was I was too busy celebrating the nixt victory,
So I apologize.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I completely understand a couple of refrains of going New York, go,
New York go.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Oh yeah yeah. I actually I watched it. I watched
the game on the plane back from LA to San Francisco,
and and when I got when we got to the airport,
I bought a pair of blue and orange socks, So
here we go.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I knew I was going to bring you around to
round to me. Rick. I mean, now all you have
to do next is and you're on the Ball podcast,
say Yoki should do the right thing and give the
m VB Trophy to Brunson, like when they try to
give it to him, say no, no, this is Jalen's award.
Then they fly and give it to him instead.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
You mean he didn't do that already?
Speaker 6 (15:54):
How dare he?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
How dare him? What's up with that?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I was really thinking, with those socks, Rick, you could
probably give them a couple of minutes at the three
or four because they're gonna need it.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Well, you know it's funny because I was on with
I was on undispeeded this morning and skipped I think
he asked Byron Scott was on with us, and he asked,
what are the chances that the Tims goes to playing
his starting five all forty eight minutes? And I thought,
(16:29):
you know what, you know what, what would really be
a TIBs move is if one of his starting five
falls out, fouls out, and he looks out of the
bench and then he goes, screw it, We're just playing
with four, all right, Rick?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So look, let let's start here. Let's start here with this.
Rick Carlisle. After the game, extreme look, he gets thrown
out of the game. He gets upset that an erroneous
whistle was taken back and the Knicks retained session of
the basketball. He throws the referees under the bus, saying
small market teams deserve a chance and we're not getting it.
(17:07):
He's got twenty nine calls they want to send to
the NBA about what's been missed the first couple of
games here with the Pacers in the Knicks. You know
you've seen these first two games. What do you make
of Rick Carlisle saying.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That, I I think he's frustrated. I do think that
the way the Knicks play invites whistles. I mean the
way that Dalen Jalen's just really good. Somebody on our staff,
(17:38):
on the Steak staff, said that he's like Trey Young,
and I said, do not say that that, because I
think Trey. I think Trey does like he does extraneous things.
Jalen is just very physical and very shifty in terms
of change the direction and and and and the way
(18:02):
he does it is a little bit different in terms
of he's and he did it, you know down the strets.
I thought he hit a big bucket where he hit TJ.
McConnell twice and then uh, and but it was it
was it was legitimate, it was legal. Uh And then
scored got that little separation scored and then somebody landed
(18:22):
on top of him and he ended up with an
one and you're you're watching the whole sequence and you're thinking, God, Jalen,
Jalen just beats the stuffings out of t J and
how and now yeah, now is going to the free
throw line.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
He took me, he that possession personally, Rick, that was
one of those I took that McConnell jumper and him
getting it by face personally, and I'm just whollying him
down the floor on that bucket.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah, yeah, So I look, I understand I understand Rick,
Rick's frustration. I can see where it comes from. But
the but the truth of the matter is, and probably
the heart of it, is that his guys are more
nests players like Pasco Fiakum will we'll bang, but he
(19:04):
does it in trying to just he uses his length
more than his his wif to create space and Haliburton
is the same way. Those guys just don't attack the
paint in the same way. And so I can see
why the whistle favors New York. And I don't think
it's the big market versus small market. But look, Rick
(19:28):
smart and he's not generally not an emotional guy. What
he's doing is trying to lay the ground work so
that they get a different whistle in in Indiana. And
we'll see ultimately if that happens or it works, But
you know, the sort of it is. I don't I
don't think they've gotten I don't think Indiana's gotten an
(19:49):
egregiously bad whistle. I think they just Brunson has has
created a riddle for them that they cannot solve if
they double him. He's really getting good at getting the
ball out of his hands. And Hartstein in particular sort
of as that swing guy at the top, that's the
guy you're gonna leave a leave alone. Well, he's done
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a good job of swinging it quickly and finding the
Vincenzo or one of the other open shooters. And they've
knocked down the shots. And and if they don't double them,
Brunton is just really good at getting his own shot
contested or otherwise. And I mean that's the shots that
he made down the stretch, considering looked like he was
playing on a bad foot, looked like he was exhausted.
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I don't, I don't have words for watching Brunton is
giving us a Jordan like performance. And he is in
no way physically like Michael Jordan's and yet kind of
getting to the same spot. Degree of difficulty is much greater,
and and and just hitting every clutch shot that they need.
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I it's it's astounding because I still I look at
him and I'm like, how is he doing? Doing this
over and over and over again. He looks like he's
playing on one leg. He looks like he's exhausted, and
yet and looks like he's got a hand in his face,
and he drills every shot necessary. It has just been
(21:13):
a remarkable performance.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
My only question is and he do it two more
times with you know, with with a diminishing crew around him,
that is going to be the biggest question.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Well, now you're missing Og indefinitely.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I mean, the Pacers did give up fifty seven shooting
to the Nicks. One of the things we banged down
a bunch. But Jason and I were talking about this
before Rick the substitutions in.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
The fourth court.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Rick Carlisle probably kicking himself too, that McConnell and top
and didn't see a lot of action down the stretch
as effective as they'd been.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yeah, well, it's a tricky. I don't know. I haven't
seen them play McConnell and Haliburton a whole lot together,
and so yeah, I mean, maybe maybe he could. Maybe
we'll see, we'll see a change there. Again, I just
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there was there's There was once or twice where I
thought Halliburton needed to needed to go to the cup
and try to score. Instead he tried to swing it
out and it either ended up they didn't get a
shot or it was a turnover. And and those little
moments where he's not as aggressive as Brunson is really
(22:29):
has been the different I thought Brunton was. I thought
Halliburton was so much better than one was obviously in
game one, but I think that he has to be
even more aggressive, particularly with now with og out of there.
I mean, you only have Hertenstein to defend the rim.
If Halliburton is really attacking strong, scoring and and and
(22:53):
attacking the rim, then I think it's going to open
up more for the other guys. And they just he
did more of it this game. I think it has
to go to him yet another level. If they're gonna
come back with Jalen Brunson is doing.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Look, it's gonna be fine, Rick, because Greg Anthony will
play some more minutes in games Bernard King will play
some more minutes in game five.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
It's it's gonna be fine, Rick, It's gonna be play
in the suit.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
We're good.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I think I think John Starks is ready to turn
his hat backward and get out there and let a
couple fly.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Rick Buger with US Fox Sports one NBA inside of
the Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the
tire rec dot Com Studios. You know we said this
last night and I and you know, you mentioned Jordan,
and I feel like when when I when I sit
here and look at the two best players in the
playoffs so far, I don't think I don't think I'm
stretching it by saying it's been Jalen Brunson and Anthony Edwards, Right,
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those are probably been the two best players in the
playoffs so far. And yet we see Edwards all the
time gets pushed, Hey, he's the next Jordan, He's this,
he's that. And I feel like the reason Brunson doesn't
get the run is because he doesn't get you that.
I don't know that he can dunk right, he gives
you you know, he's a he's a he's one of
the smartest players in the league, probably one of the
(24:06):
top three smartest players in the league. Being able to
do what he can and and that's the brilliance of
his game and hitting the big shots. It's not up
and down and making a big three over two guys,
or or fighting away to the rim and fight. We
just don't we just don't see. It's easy to see
the brilliance for Anthony Edwards because physically he's that guy,
but for Brunson it's kind of harder. I wonder if
that's why it's taken so long for people to come
(24:28):
around to the fact that, hey, you know, hey, this
Jalen Brunson's a bleeping superstar. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I mean, honestly, I think I think in some ways
I could make a case where that what Jalen has
done and is doing is more Jordan like than what
Anthony Edwards does. But the comparisons and nobody should compare.
It should be compared to Jordan's because, as Michael did,
some of what Anthony Edwards is doing and some of
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what Jalen Brunson is doing, and then doing a few
other things that neither one of those guys do. And
so I just I think the I think the Anthony
Edwards to Michael Jordan's. My problem is people don't go
like they're they're saying he's the next Jordan, or he
does what does he do like Jordan's. He's got it
like a turnaround jumper, like Jordan, He's got the athletic
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ability to crush it on the rim and go buy
somebody and dunk it. But he doesn't manage the game
like Michael did. Like Michael was a maestro. He controlled
everything when he was on the floor. Uh and and
is in no way there yet now he's only twenty two.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But I made this.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I made this comparison, like everybody's like, well, what was
Michael doing at twenty two? Michael Michael was barely into
the league at age twenty two because of the time
that he spent in North Carolina. If you compare, this
will tell you how far Ant has to go before
he gets to Michael Jordan's status. This is Aunt's fourth
(25:59):
year in the league. He was not I didn't check
the ballot, but my guess is like he wasn't in
the top five in m v P voting. I know,
he wasn't on my ballot, and people are gonna some
people have just watched him during the playoffs are going
to wonder how that is. Look, he wasn't he wasn't
an m v P during the season. He was a
really good player. He wasn't wasn't m v P. And
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that he's a little bit like Jason Tatum for me,
and he's he's the best player, the most talented player
on a really really really good team, but not everything
goes through him. So that that that and fourth fourth year,
he was an All Star on one of the best
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teams in the Western Conference. Michael Jordan in his fourth
year was league MVP, was the Defensive Player of the Year,
was winning his second consecutive scoring title, was All First
Team defense and and All NBA First Team, and he
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took a Chicago Bulls team that had Charles Oakley and
Brad Cellars as the two other maybe the next best
players on the team to the second round of the playoffs.
What ann has done this so far is really great.
(27:23):
If we're talking about what two guys have done in
their fourth year in the league, which I think is
the most fair comparison.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
There is no comparison to that end Rick and obviously
some good Bulls history. When you get Brad Cellars into things,
did I mention Dave Corsine? No Cordine, the legend of
Dave Corsine? Absolutely, there you go as we go through it,
I mean, how does Denver get up off the mat?
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Can they?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You know?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I'm I'm really baffled by Denver. I'll be honest, Like
I thought, that's the way they played against the Lakers
was out of boredom, not out of it's physical or
mental fatigue, because they just looked like they were sleeping,
a sleepwalking most of the time. I haven't seen them
play with the Christmas, Christmas and energy of last year's
(28:12):
championship teams. I don't know. I mean I've seen it
here and there, but only enough to eke out those
wins against the Lakers. And after they lost Game four,
I expected to see it in Game five. I was like, Okay,
you know what, They've beaten the team so many times,
they feel like we don't have to take them seriously
until the fourth quarter and then we'll close them out.
(28:34):
And they did that what twelve times? And then they
lose one. I'm like Okay, Game five, they're at home,
they're gonna let They're gonna remind everybody, Yeah, you know what,
we flipped up, we lost one. We're gonna remind you
of just how good we are. And there they were
basically the same team, and they've basically been that team
against Minnesota and they've had it handed to them because
Minnesota is just that much better than the Lakers. So
(28:58):
I'm not talking around your question. And am I how
they get off the mat is they show me some
semblance of the team that won a championship last year,
which means they're going to be aggressive offensively and defensively.
Jokic reason he was my MVP was because when he
had a guy like Noz Reid, he didn't wait a
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round for the double team. He put Noz reed underneath
the basket and and and was putting it in the
hoop until they brought somebody quicker or put somebody bigger
on him, and then he would then he would he
would spray it around. Their their cuts off the ball
are not sharp. They seem to be disconnected and misreading
(29:41):
each other. And then Jamal Murray in the series in particular,
has decided like No I need to prove that I
can score on Jayden Daniels and and Anthony Edwards, And
I'm like, dude, why why are you attempting to do this?
That's not when what you guys are at your best.
It's you making it disc vision getting the ball to
Jokis if you have a bad matchup, playing off of him,
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running off the ball, getting it and then taking a shot,
not trying to prove that you can go one on
one against these guys, because those are two really good
defenders that have greater size on you, and you're not
scoring at a consistent in a consistent way with those
match ups. So I just I'm really baffled, like what
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do they have to do to get off the mat?
They need to be the Denver nugget. I really haven't
seen the team that I came to respect and admire
in the way they played last year. I've only seen
glimpses of that team to this point, and I think
if they are what they were last year, and I
think they can be that Minnesota is really good on
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the ball, defending one on one great defendants. The way
you can loosen that up is if you're making them
move and rotate, and they've got to read and react Carl.
Anthony Edwards has got to chase Carl and Anthony. Tank
has to rotate. Now you're going to get some opportunities.
So they just they need back to playing Denver Nuggets basketball,
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and and maybe that maybe they can't. Maybe maybe the
mental and physical fatigue of having won a championship and
then battling it out with Minnesota and Oklahoma City for
the best record in the Western Conference. You know, maybe
that lost to San Antonio where they could have, uh,
they could have zipped it up. Maybe that was a
(31:27):
sign of things that this team just doesn't have as
much in the tank as we thought that they did.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker.
Check out on the Ball podcast, which would be all
about Josh Hart. Can he play every minute of every
game the rest of the year? Ricks always Buddy appreciated Man,
Nick Show.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Talk to you soon, Amstrings Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
See Rick. Thanks coming up next. Something you had to
hear during the end of tonight's Nicks win over the Pacers.
Something that one of the guys broadcasts in the game
for TNT is never gonna forget. Yeah, It's coming up
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
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Speaker 6 (32:31):
Hey wrong?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
How about some mustlessen audio from Game two of the
Knicks and the Pacers tonight. We talked about it last night.
Reggie Miller back in Madison Square Garden doing a Knicks
Pacers playoff game. This is what made Reggie Miller a
household name and made him a star was his rivalry
with the Knicks in the playoffs and the twenty ninth
anniversary a day ago. It was eight points and nine seconds.
(32:55):
He did a big interview on Dan Patrick yesterday, the
Boogeyman is coming to Taboo. Well, at the end of
the Knicks win over the Pacers, while Rick Carlisle was
getting ejected and Dante DiVincenzo was making free throws, a
very specific chant broke out at MSG and it was
directed at Reggie Miller. Now listen, it's bleeped out, but
(33:18):
I think you can tell what they're saying.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
That's worst how does that not get dumped?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Who's cheering about the Jets?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Come on, man, that's like four birds.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
No, I mean this is how it is. Not even
like Aaron Rodgers can't even get tickets to this, Like
it's all Look at all the stars that like Ben
Stiller and Chris Rock are showing on their phones all
they want they want important people. Yeah, it's like during
and during like last year for the Knicks. Hey, Aaron
Rodgers can be at the game. Here's some Mets players
who are at the game. Now. It's like, no, no, no,
(33:51):
it's hey, listeners, man, it's the nineties again, the nineties, nineties.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
We've got Hollywood stars. That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, we can let Okay, Rivera is there. Okay, that's fine.
But really maybe Judge if he wanted to go. But
that's really it. We can't have anybody else. I mean,
we're we're onto all day letters.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Judge is getting in, it's a right now. He may
not be.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I said, maybe he gets in. It's still got a
lot of job.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Carlow.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, oh no, he's not getting it.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
No way to stop Barlow.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
No, it's it. The only the only athletes getting it. Really,
it's Rivera and Jeter. If he can't geter Jeter and Rivera,
that's it. Everybody else you gotta it's it's all movie stars.
It's the nineties again.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Man, it's great minus Oakley.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Uh yeah, that's true. Oakley. Oley's not getting unless yeah,
unless he like sneaks in, you know, one of the entrances.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
And one guy standing there with a sign outside of
the garden.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
What's saying. It says free Oakley.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
If I'm the Pacers, I let court side Game three? Oh, absolutely,
Red Carbon invite right there.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So here's the audio of what was being chanted that
MSG late in the game.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
That left sound like Kevin Hart right there.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
They're channing blank you, Reggie. Right, they're chitty at Reggie
Miller because it's like, hey, Reggie Miller's here, let's chant
blank you Reggie.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
It's like, with your headset on, was lit man?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Now? Just in case Reggie Miller didn't know it was
being chanted while Devincenzo was shooting free throws. And look,
the game's over this point. It's an eight point lead,
nine point lead for the nixt about twenty seconds left
to go. Josh Hart wanted to come over and make
sure that Reggie Miller knew what was being chanted. Now
you're gonna hear Reggie. He's talking about the Villanova three
and he says, oh, man, what do you think Jay
(35:43):
Wright is thinking right now? And the next voice you
hear is Josh Hart coming over, making sure that Reggie
knows what is being said to him. All right, there's
my voice. What do you know? Like you? Okay? Thanks?
Speaker 5 (36:02):
I appreciate that, basically calling out his UCLA education.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Now, look, I give Reggie Miller a lot of credit
because he smiled at this and laughing. Look, this is
who Reggie Miller. Man. Reggie Miller's fun. But this is
this is how out of control it was, you know,
one of the players while the game was going This
is like superstardom. This is why people hate the Knicks.
And I understand. Oh not only your chanting blank you
to a broadcaster, But here's one of the guys while
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the game is going on, coming over and talking to
you at the scorer's table because the game is over.
This is the atmosphere of Madison Square Garden. This is
a night where the Lebron James is watching this game.
He's going, Man, I would have loved to play there
for a cop. He's not. I would love no, not
now because he's done him. No, no, no no, but
like early in his man, I would love to play
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that kind of atmosphere, that kind of atmosphere with that,
with that stuff going on and everybody courtside in the
crowd absolutely insane. There is nothing like. That's why they
call MSG the greatest arena in the world.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Guys, A night after wearing that, Reggie may never unlock
himself out of Wendy's God's point.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
It could be the end of it. But I mean
to be fair, though, Smith.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
For fifty years, it's been what the ninety four Rangers,
your run in ninety nine that ended abruptly, and a
lot of Taylor Swift and Billie Joel concerts. There ain't
been a whole lot to celebrate sports wise. Yeah no, no, no,
I guess NCAA tournament games and whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
But when when he come on, man, you had some
n i T championships won. There doesn't disrespect the n T.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You had that crazy Yukon run back in the day.
Mike Wow Fair Kemba.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Walker Yah see now now we're going to old school.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
There you go. But that's the list.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I had nothing to do with his teams. That's why
this team suck.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
It's why it's why Nick fans are yellow after win
one in the playoffs against the Sixers, feeling we want Boston.
It's like, you gotta beat the Sixers, then win another
series and.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Then maybe you get it. No, no, no, ready for Boston. No,
it's the immediacy. We're banquishing these guys. We're up to nothing.
We're taking their wills slowly but surely. And yeah, so
the fans are gonna be inebriated and excitable, sometimes absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I mean, this is how it is, man, It's just
this is why this series is so much fun. Every
other series, every game is a blow It's like, ah, yeah,
oh we're getting blowouts. Hey, how about this next year?
How about these Thinking about between the Nicks and the Pacers,
think about those games last night. Did we spend a
lot of time on him? Hell no, because they sucked. No,
this one was at least entertaining.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
There's a lot of battling going on, some whining going on,
and you know you're overly excitable.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Look wait till you hear what Rick Carlisle, PACER's head
coach had to say following the Knicks victory over the Pacers,
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Speaker 3 (00:49):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yes, a huge night in the NBA. One game, but
we really only had room for one game. The Knicks
out last the Pacers one thirty to one twenty one.
They take a two games to nothing lead in the
East Semis. However, tons of concern as Oganunobi left tonight's
game with an injury. And you know I've already seen
(01:10):
all the doctors that are on uh uh oh the
Twitter are out already.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Oh, I thought they wait till NBA season. I thought
they were in hibernation.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, no, no, no, they're out now going. I see
that it looks like he's going to be out the
rest of the series. It looks like this is the
hamstring strain will keep him out for a while. Now,
it's gonna have an MRI. Did go in for a layup,
had a hamstring strain, came out of the game. And look,
Anunoby is a guy that transformed the Knicks when when
they obtained him, and having him healthy has been the difference.
(01:41):
He's been one of the Iron five guys that's playing
basically the entire game. Look, this is why I say
this series does not feel over. And if I'm being
quite honest, I say, does the Knicks Pacers series feel
It doesn't because it does it feel like it's over
you or does it feel like the Pacers can go
in and win Game three, in Game four by twenty
points and suddenly we're back at MSG for Game five.
(02:02):
But that's just it.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Even with the margin of victory today, right free throws
down the stretch, couple of big buckets. Whatever it was
fought for forty seven minutes. I mean there's there's no
Quinn on either side of this, and.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Especially if the Knicks are this, I mean, like it
is it to think about no Randall, no Mitchell, Robinson,
no Bogdanovich. I don't Nobe is hurt now, and who
knows how long Brunson's dinged up and they're still winning game.
It's like again, it's like the horror movie why won't
You die? No, we're not going to die well, and.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
You'd been working well and the team had rallied around
I mean the absence of Julius Randall to where you've
kind of wanted him traded for spare parts or maybe
some street meat at this point. But the rest of
these guys, Yes, to your point, Your seven guy rotation
continues to shrink.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Look they're hurt. Look the Knicks are dinged up. I
can easily see. Look I can see the Knicks sitting
Brunson for Game three if they feel they have to.
I don't think there's any way and Unobi plays no.
I think game three is one of those games. Are listen,
we're up to nothing and we really need some time.
Because it's not just that the Knicks the Knicks stars
are playing all these minutes. These are all heavy minutes.
(03:13):
There's no there's not a lot of easy but Lebron minutes.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
You know, Rick Buker joked about months ago.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
There's not a lots of easy buckets for the Knicks.
They have to continually move the basketball and fight. These
are these are heavy forty five and four. Not that
you'd say they're not heavy, but they're heavier than a
lot of other people playing forty five minutes would be.
So yeah, I can see the Knicks on on Friday going, Yeah,
Alec Burks is gonna play, let's go deep into the bench.
Chris Childs will play a little bit, Charlie Ward will play.
(03:42):
Oh maybe you'll be outstanding. Look at these guys coming.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Back to play, and we can get that NBA NFL
argument going again.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But Steve Novak will play a few minutes.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
But again, the schedule for games four and five is
what made decide that that whole process for Thibodeau and
for the Knicks in terms of brunts and his availability
and how about you try to push Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Look I can see, hey, suddenly game five we're two
to two back at MSG. That's why I say, this
is a magic carpet ride that will last as long
as it does for the man two more games that.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Wins, as long as.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It goes right, that wins. That's how it is now.
I do want to say this, though, doesn't Nicola yok
who won his third straight MVP three out of four,
three out of four, sorry, his third MVP overall, doesn't
Nicola yolkicic after the right thing and give the trophy
to Jailer.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Wrong?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, does he have to give it to bruns He
doesn't have to say, listen, I don't know why I
got all these votes. Thank you so much, but here's
the real MVP. And he hands a trophy to Brunson,
who comes over, limps over and holds it up and says,
thank you. I am the rightful owner of this trophy.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Here the MVP tr Mehet the rewind two hours ago
when we were talking about a sequence where Haliburton got
four arms shivered in the back by heart and remember
he's got backspasms, so breathing on and might have sent
him to the to the ground. Either way, he gets
the file, gets the fall shots and you said, hey,
you sound so fool.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I'm bringing that right back on you, right now.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, I think he should think you're just I think
he do the right thing and say.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Do the right thing. Here an MVP award.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I am I I did not or this is not
my MVP. This is somebody else's name on this trophy.
Right when when Ving Raims did that for Jack Lemon,
right when he didn't feel like a I shouldn't have
won the Golden Globe, right he won for Best Supporting Actors.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
It was a Golden Globe.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And he said, yeah, it's true, it wasn't an Oscar.
You're not giving back an Oscar. But still to give
back a Golden Globe and say, no, mister Lemon, this
is yours the clatform and Jack Lemon came up.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Shut up and Jack Lemon, especially when he was cursing
at Walter Mathow and hanging around with Anne Margaret, I.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Mean, POSI. I was kind of surprised that Lemon actually
came up there, not only took the trophy but gave
us speed. Well why not.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
It's a little weird, but still it's one of the
greatest moments in Awards show history.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
All right, all right, And he asked me to come
up here I'm up here now.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's what Jokic has to do. No, no, Jalen, this
is your MVP. It is not mine, it is your
v It's not.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Mine, Jalen.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I may pass the George to you next year, but
it's not mine. This is mine beating now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I got a great hot take for you.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
He did finish nobody.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I know again again they sold him short. He should
have finished a lot higher. Well, he should have been
ahead of Giannis.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
But when you talk about you know, Gildas, Alexander, Luca
and Jokic, I mean I had him coming in fourth.
So the fact that Yanni's clipped him there was a
little surprising, but you know, the narrative is now built
for next year.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Buddy.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Look, what do you think I would rather have Brunson
winning the MVP and down two going on the road
in the playoffs, or Yokic winning the MVP and we're
up to Zip in the second round. But the Nuggets
are going home. Man, They're going home in a couple
of nights. That's his consolation trophy this year.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Congratulations, you were in the regular season MVP and now
they're beating you up from pillar to post. And you
guys have no answer. By the way, go Bear will
be back. You know, they got the one defensive player
of the year.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Even though maybe he's overrated and they don't need him
after what they did in game two.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
No, a lot of discussion about that after going through
the particulars. But uh, and the way they beat them
down in game two. But you know what, Jokic gets
to win this one.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
And there's a lot of people doing their handwringing and
sadness about it because now this puts him in this
air with this guy and that guy and the other guy.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
It's like, calm down, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, here's the thing. This is what I think. I
got a great hot take for Jalen Brunson coming up
for you in a few minutes. Like it's it's it's
an awesome hot take. Really okay, but oh yeah, wait,
do you hear this hot take?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
You're gonna love You should be Captain America.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
He already is Captain America. Come on, man, I mean it's.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I mean, he was the highest vote.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You he just throws the basketball instead of the shield.
The basketball comes back to him all the time. Uh.
What I think of when when I when I see
Jokic winning his third MVP in four years, right, it's
great that the that the voters see the brilliance of
him because you have to watch him in a game
and see how he affects almost every play and how
(07:56):
despite the fact that he doesn't look like a guy
that can get out on a three if he needs
to work and make a big bounce pass or see
the court, it's almost like he's a He's a taller
version of Brunson. He's not overwhelmingly athletic. He still runs
a little awkward up and down the floor, but he
finds a way to make plays that nobody else can make.
But when I see him winning, and he wins three
out of four, I say to the first thing I
(08:18):
thought of today was, man, it is a different era
in the NBA, because if he's won three out of
the last four, like, how the hell did Shack not
win at least three maybe four MVPs in his a day.
There was such an anti shackness going on because when
he came into the league, there was a lot of
(08:38):
he doesn't take the game seriously enough, he doesn't get better.
He was very puffed different. But that guy never but
that never ends, right, So I'm saying, but he was.
He was incredibly polarizing, right. He had that mid career
moment of clarity where he said, you know, I can't
I can't sit here on the Magic I'm never gonna win.
I Gotta go someplace where I can win. He goes
(08:59):
to the Lakers, he wins championships, goes on to win
another on with the Heat. But in his heyday, he
was the best player in the NBA. He was unstoppable
in his prime, and he should have probably won MVP
three or four times. But because there was such an
anti bias against him, because some of the players didn't
like him. It's a lot of fans and I can't
(09:20):
get over how polarized was just because he was fun. Oh,
he doesn't take the game seriously. It doesn't work as
hard as he should. He does movies in the offseason.
It's like, what are we really focusing on? But that
was a thing during Shaq's heyday in the nineties early
two thousands. That's what people thought of him. Oh, you
should Shack be the captain the Lakers or Kobe. Kobe's
just working hard and getting better, and Shaq is off
(09:42):
doing movies, and I know that that bled into voting, right.
I know that bled into voting right like the absolutely
it should have gone from Jordan winning MVP every year,
you know, and winning the finals, to Shack winning MVP
every year. But he didn't. And there's no reason why
other than the fact there was such a huge anti
Shaq movement out there from voters because he was polarizing.
(10:03):
That would never happen now. If Shaq was Shack now,
he would he would feel like, boy, what an unbelievable
fun superstar. He'd be even more fun. Joelle embiide, if
he was around now, he would be funny. He rap,
he's got, you know, he would. He does appearances on
television shows, He danced with the Jabbawaukees. He does so
much fun stuff. But it didn't translate when he was
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playing because it was just a different time during his
reign now twenty years ago. So if he came up
around now, yeah, he'd be Joki winning MVP after MVP
or three out of four where it is. But because
there was such an anti Shack sentiment, he wound up
with one and I felt like they gave it to him. Begrudge,
and well, we got to give it to him at
least once. Here, all right, we'll make it almost unanious.
(10:46):
And still Fred Hickman wouldn't even vote for the voting
for Alan Iverson. I mean, come on, they couldn't even
get a unanimous one there. I felt like that was
all right, we'll give him one, right, but that's it.
We're not gonna get another one. We'll finally get one
when he really should have had three.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Split with Kobe two D And look, the backlash on
Shaquil O'Neill was, as you said, it's like, well.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Could he work harder? Could he be greater?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
He's great, but man, imagine if he really worked and
got a little bit of a jump shot or actually
hit free throws, if he actually put the time in
blah blah blah. As opposed to recognizing the greatness for
what it was, right, It's like when we do the
historical I was like, well, you know, Will.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Chamberlain was just taller than everybody else, that's how he's dismantled.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Or Kareem abdul Jabbar, he was taller and he had
the unblockable, unstoppable shot. That's just unfair. Or super teams
or just whatever. The argument becomes to dismiss guys along
the way. Shaquille O'Neill has had that forever. I mean,
you look at it and go back and watch the
video of him just running over people, and again goes
(11:48):
back to my old argument of I can throw three
hundred and fifty pounds of ass at you and it's
not a file as I knock you off the block.
But if I face you and I get you eye
to eye and knock you over, it's an off never
understood it, but he used it to his advantage brilliantly.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah. Oh, he's so big. It's like, okay, so so
for all the for all the oh look at him size,
he just has that advantage. Oh look at Steph Curry
does what he does. He's so small you No, I
get it. That's great, that's all great. But I can't
penalize a guy because he's bigger and he makes play
like bigger people. That's how it works, right, Oh, this
guy's better because he's six three, this guy's six two,
(12:24):
this guy six's one. I can't believe it. I mean,
it just doesn't make sense. But when when people want
to find a way to say something bad about you
or not like you. They will find a way, they'll
find some way to justify it. And I feel bad
because really, Shack should have had all that hardware. Man,
all that hardware. He's done, Okay, I think, Oh, I'm
not saying easy, but I'm saying, if you want to
be real about the MVP, because you know, players care
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about the NBA more than anything else in the NBA,
I mean you really should be realistic and go. It
should have been Jordan for like, you know, five years
in a row, then two years off, then three more
years in a row. Then it should have been Shacked
for five or six years, and then you can give
it to Duncan once in a while.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
How about giving money two to Kobe. Don't get me started.
Go Santa Clara Bronto's baby. Come on now, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The Jason Smith Show. Is my best friend Mike Harmon again.
That's what I think of when I think of Yoka
twinning is how many more Shacks should have really won.
But coming up next, it's taken a while. I'm sure
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(13:30):
Yoka twinning, MVP.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Isn't gird a disease?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, g I R D is okay? G r D
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And you know with Rick it's always must listen radio
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Check out as All the Ball Podcast, which will be
all about Jalen Brunston the Knicks. It is Rick Buker, Rick,
what's happening bud Well?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
First of all, I want to apologize. I was supposed
to be all with you guys a little earlier, but
I was I was too busy celebrating the nixt victory,
So I apologize.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I completely understand a couple of refrains of going New York, go,
New York go.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Oh yeah yeah. I actually I watched it. I watched
the game on the plane back from LA to San Francisco,
and and when I got when we got to the airport,
I bought a pair of blue and orange socks, So
here we go.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I knew I was going to bring you around to
round to me. Rick. I mean, now all you have
to do next is and you're on the Ball podcast,
say Yoki should do the right thing and give the
m VB Trophy to Brunson, like when they try to
give it to him, say no, no, this is Jalen's award.
Then they fly and give it to him instead.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
You mean he didn't do that already?
Speaker 6 (15:54):
How dare he?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
How dare him? What's up with that?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I was really thinking, with those socks, Rick, you could
probably give them a couple of minutes at the three
or four because they're gonna need it.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Well, you know it's funny because I was on with
I was on undispeeded this morning and skipped I think
he asked Byron Scott was on with us, and he asked,
what are the chances that the Tims goes to playing
his starting five all forty eight minutes? And I thought,
(16:29):
you know what, you know what, what would really be
a TIBs move is if one of his starting five
falls out, fouls out, and he looks out of the
bench and then he goes, screw it, We're just playing
with four, all right, Rick?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So look, let let's start here. Let's start here with this.
Rick Carlisle. After the game, extreme look, he gets thrown
out of the game. He gets upset that an erroneous
whistle was taken back and the Knicks retained session of
the basketball. He throws the referees under the bus, saying
small market teams deserve a chance and we're not getting it.
(17:07):
He's got twenty nine calls they want to send to
the NBA about what's been missed the first couple of
games here with the Pacers in the Knicks. You know
you've seen these first two games. What do you make
of Rick Carlisle saying.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That, I I think he's frustrated. I do think that
the way the Knicks play invites whistles. I mean the
way that Dalen Jalen's just really good. Somebody on our staff,
(17:38):
on the Steak staff, said that he's like Trey Young,
and I said, do not say that that, because I
think Trey. I think Trey does like he does extraneous things.
Jalen is just very physical and very shifty in terms
of change the direction and and and and the way
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he does it is a little bit different in terms
of he's and he did it, you know down the strets.
I thought he hit a big bucket where he hit TJ.
McConnell twice and then uh, and but it was it
was it was legitimate, it was legal. Uh And then
scored got that little separation scored and then somebody landed
(18:22):
on top of him and he ended up with an
one and you're you're watching the whole sequence and you're thinking, God, Jalen,
Jalen just beats the stuffings out of t J and
how and now yeah, now is going to the free
throw line.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
He took me, he that possession personally, Rick, that was
one of those I took that McConnell jumper and him
getting it by face personally, and I'm just whollying him
down the floor on that bucket.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah, yeah, So I look, I understand I understand Rick,
Rick's frustration. I can see where it comes from. But
the but the truth of the matter is, and probably
the heart of it, is that his guys are more
nests players like Pasco Fiakum will we'll bang, but he
(19:04):
does it in trying to just he uses his length
more than his his wif to create space and Haliburton
is the same way. Those guys just don't attack the
paint in the same way. And so I can see
why the whistle favors New York. And I don't think
it's the big market versus small market. But look, Rick
(19:28):
smart and he's not generally not an emotional guy. What
he's doing is trying to lay the ground work so
that they get a different whistle in in Indiana. And
we'll see ultimately if that happens or it works, But
you know, the sort of it is. I don't I
don't think they've gotten I don't think Indiana's gotten an
(19:49):
egregiously bad whistle. I think they just Brunson has has
created a riddle for them that they cannot solve if
they double him. He's really getting good at getting the
ball out of his hands. And Hartstein in particular sort
of as that swing guy at the top, that's the
guy you're gonna leave a leave alone. Well, he's done
(20:10):
a good job of swinging it quickly and finding the
Vincenzo or one of the other open shooters. And they've
knocked down the shots. And and if they don't double them,
Brunton is just really good at getting his own shot
contested or otherwise. And I mean that's the shots that
he made down the stretch, considering looked like he was
playing on a bad foot, looked like he was exhausted.
(20:32):
I don't, I don't have words for watching Brunton is
giving us a Jordan like performance. And he is in
no way physically like Michael Jordan's and yet kind of
getting to the same spot. Degree of difficulty is much greater,
and and and just hitting every clutch shot that they need.
(20:53):
I it's it's astounding because I still I look at
him and I'm like, how is he doing? Doing this
over and over and over again. He looks like he's
playing on one leg. He looks like he's exhausted, and
yet and looks like he's got a hand in his face,
and he drills every shot necessary. It has just been
(21:13):
a remarkable performance.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
My only question is and he do it two more
times with you know, with with a diminishing crew around him,
that is going to be the biggest question.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Well, now you're missing Og indefinitely.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I mean, the Pacers did give up fifty seven shooting
to the Nicks. One of the things we banged down
a bunch. But Jason and I were talking about this
before Rick the substitutions in.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
The fourth court.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Rick Carlisle probably kicking himself too, that McConnell and top
and didn't see a lot of action down the stretch
as effective as they'd been.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yeah, well, it's a tricky. I don't know. I haven't
seen them play McConnell and Haliburton a whole lot together,
and so yeah, I mean, maybe maybe he could. Maybe
we'll see, we'll see a change there. Again, I just
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there was there's There was once or twice where I
thought Halliburton needed to needed to go to the cup
and try to score. Instead he tried to swing it
out and it either ended up they didn't get a
shot or it was a turnover. And and those little
moments where he's not as aggressive as Brunson is really
(22:29):
has been the different I thought Brunton was. I thought
Halliburton was so much better than one was obviously in
game one, but I think that he has to be
even more aggressive, particularly with now with og out of there.
I mean, you only have Hertenstein to defend the rim.
If Halliburton is really attacking strong, scoring and and and
(22:53):
attacking the rim, then I think it's going to open
up more for the other guys. And they just he
did more of it this game. I think it has
to go to him yet another level. If they're gonna
come back with Jalen Brunson is doing.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Look, it's gonna be fine, Rick, because Greg Anthony will
play some more minutes in games Bernard King will play
some more minutes in game five.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
It's it's gonna be fine, Rick, It's gonna be play
in the suit.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
We're good.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I think I think John Starks is ready to turn
his hat backward and get out there and let a
couple fly.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Rick Buger with US Fox Sports one NBA inside of
the Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the
tire rec dot Com Studios. You know we said this
last night and I and you know, you mentioned Jordan,
and I feel like when when I when I sit
here and look at the two best players in the
playoffs so far, I don't think I don't think I'm
stretching it by saying it's been Jalen Brunson and Anthony Edwards, Right,
(23:46):
those are probably been the two best players in the
playoffs so far. And yet we see Edwards all the
time gets pushed, Hey, he's the next Jordan, He's this,
he's that. And I feel like the reason Brunson doesn't
get the run is because he doesn't get you that.
I don't know that he can dunk right, he gives
you you know, he's a he's a he's one of
the smartest players in the league, probably one of the
(24:06):
top three smartest players in the league. Being able to
do what he can and and that's the brilliance of
his game and hitting the big shots. It's not up
and down and making a big three over two guys,
or or fighting away to the rim and fight. We
just don't we just don't see. It's easy to see
the brilliance for Anthony Edwards because physically he's that guy,
but for Brunson it's kind of harder. I wonder if
that's why it's taken so long for people to come
(24:28):
around to the fact that, hey, you know, hey, this
Jalen Brunson's a bleeping superstar. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I mean, honestly, I think I think in some ways
I could make a case where that what Jalen has
done and is doing is more Jordan like than what
Anthony Edwards does. But the comparisons and nobody should compare.
It should be compared to Jordan's because, as Michael did,
some of what Anthony Edwards is doing and some of
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what Jalen Brunson is doing, and then doing a few
other things that neither one of those guys do. And
so I just I think the I think the Anthony
Edwards to Michael Jordan's. My problem is people don't go
like they're they're saying he's the next Jordan, or he
does what does he do like Jordan's. He's got it
like a turnaround jumper, like Jordan, He's got the athletic
(25:16):
ability to crush it on the rim and go buy
somebody and dunk it. But he doesn't manage the game
like Michael did. Like Michael was a maestro. He controlled
everything when he was on the floor. Uh and and
is in no way there yet now he's only twenty two.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But I made this.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I made this comparison, like everybody's like, well, what was
Michael doing at twenty two? Michael Michael was barely into
the league at age twenty two because of the time
that he spent in North Carolina. If you compare, this
will tell you how far Ant has to go before
he gets to Michael Jordan's status. This is Aunt's fourth
(25:59):
year in the league. He was not I didn't check
the ballot, but my guess is like he wasn't in
the top five in m v P voting. I know,
he wasn't on my ballot, and people are gonna some
people have just watched him during the playoffs are going
to wonder how that is. Look, he wasn't he wasn't
an m v P during the season. He was a
really good player. He wasn't wasn't m v P. And
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that he's a little bit like Jason Tatum for me,
and he's he's the best player, the most talented player
on a really really really good team, but not everything
goes through him. So that that that and fourth fourth year,
he was an All Star on one of the best
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teams in the Western Conference. Michael Jordan in his fourth
year was league MVP, was the Defensive Player of the Year,
was winning his second consecutive scoring title, was All First
Team defense and and All NBA First Team, and he
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took a Chicago Bulls team that had Charles Oakley and
Brad Cellars as the two other maybe the next best
players on the team to the second round of the playoffs.
What ann has done this so far is really great.
(27:23):
If we're talking about what two guys have done in
their fourth year in the league, which I think is
the most fair comparison.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
There is no comparison to that end Rick and obviously
some good Bulls history. When you get Brad Cellars into things,
did I mention Dave Corsine? No Cordine, the legend of
Dave Corsine? Absolutely, there you go as we go through it,
I mean, how does Denver get up off the mat?
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Can they?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You know?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I'm I'm really baffled by Denver. I'll be honest, Like
I thought, that's the way they played against the Lakers
was out of boredom, not out of it's physical or
mental fatigue, because they just looked like they were sleeping,
a sleepwalking most of the time. I haven't seen them
play with the Christmas, Christmas and energy of last year's
(28:12):
championship teams. I don't know. I mean I've seen it
here and there, but only enough to eke out those
wins against the Lakers. And after they lost Game four,
I expected to see it in Game five. I was like, Okay,
you know what, They've beaten the team so many times,
they feel like we don't have to take them seriously
until the fourth quarter and then we'll close them out.
(28:34):
And they did that what twelve times? And then they
lose one. I'm like Okay, Game five, they're at home,
they're gonna let They're gonna remind everybody, Yeah, you know what,
we flipped up, we lost one. We're gonna remind you
of just how good we are. And there they were
basically the same team, and they've basically been that team
against Minnesota and they've had it handed to them because
Minnesota is just that much better than the Lakers. So
(28:58):
I'm not talking around your question. And am I how
they get off the mat is they show me some
semblance of the team that won a championship last year,
which means they're going to be aggressive offensively and defensively.
Jokic reason he was my MVP was because when he
had a guy like Noz Reid, he didn't wait a
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round for the double team. He put Noz reed underneath
the basket and and and was putting it in the
hoop until they brought somebody quicker or put somebody bigger
on him, and then he would then he would he
would spray it around. Their their cuts off the ball
are not sharp. They seem to be disconnected and misreading
(29:41):
each other. And then Jamal Murray in the series in particular,
has decided like No I need to prove that I
can score on Jayden Daniels and and Anthony Edwards, And
I'm like, dude, why why are you attempting to do this?
That's not when what you guys are at your best.
It's you making it disc vision getting the ball to
Jokis if you have a bad matchup, playing off of him,
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running off the ball, getting it and then taking a shot,
not trying to prove that you can go one on
one against these guys, because those are two really good
defenders that have greater size on you, and you're not
scoring at a consistent in a consistent way with those
match ups. So I just I'm really baffled, like what
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do they have to do to get off the mat?
They need to be the Denver nugget. I really haven't
seen the team that I came to respect and admire
in the way they played last year. I've only seen
glimpses of that team to this point, and I think
if they are what they were last year, and I
think they can be that Minnesota is really good on
(30:47):
the ball, defending one on one great defendants. The way
you can loosen that up is if you're making them
move and rotate, and they've got to read and react Carl.
Anthony Edwards has got to chase Carl and Anthony. Tank
has to rotate. Now you're going to get some opportunities.
So they just they need back to playing Denver Nuggets basketball,
(31:07):
and and maybe that maybe they can't. Maybe maybe the
mental and physical fatigue of having won a championship and
then battling it out with Minnesota and Oklahoma City for
the best record in the Western Conference. You know, maybe
that lost to San Antonio where they could have, uh,
they could have zipped it up. Maybe that was a
(31:27):
sign of things that this team just doesn't have as
much in the tank as we thought that they did.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker.
Check out on the Ball podcast, which would be all
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Speaker 4 (31:49):
Talk to you soon, Amstrings Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
See Rick. Thanks coming up next. Something you had to
hear during the end of tonight's Nicks win over the Pacers.
Something that one of the guys broadcasts in the game
for TNT is never gonna forget. Yeah, It's coming up
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. He's a hobo?
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Hey wrong?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
How about some mustlessen audio from Game two of the
Knicks and the Pacers tonight. We talked about it last night.
Reggie Miller back in Madison Square Garden doing a Knicks
Pacers playoff game. This is what made Reggie Miller a
household name and made him a star was his rivalry
with the Knicks in the playoffs and the twenty ninth
anniversary a day ago. It was eight points and nine seconds.
(32:55):
He did a big interview on Dan Patrick yesterday, the
Boogeyman is coming to Taboo. Well, at the end of
the Knicks win over the Pacers, while Rick Carlisle was
getting ejected and Dante DiVincenzo was making free throws, a
very specific chant broke out at MSG and it was
directed at Reggie Miller. Now listen, it's bleeped out, but
(33:18):
I think you can tell what they're saying.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
That's worst how does that not get dumped?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Who's cheering about the Jets?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Come on, man, that's like four birds.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
No, I mean this is how it is. Not even
like Aaron Rodgers can't even get tickets to this, Like
it's all Look at all the stars that like Ben
Stiller and Chris Rock are showing on their phones all
they want they want important people. Yeah, it's like during
and during like last year for the Knicks. Hey, Aaron
Rodgers can be at the game. Here's some Mets players
who are at the game. Now. It's like, no, no, no,
(33:51):
it's hey, listeners, man, it's the nineties again, the nineties, nineties.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
We've got Hollywood stars. That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, we can let Okay, Rivera is there. Okay, that's fine.
But really maybe Judge if he wanted to go. But
that's really it. We can't have anybody else. I mean,
we're we're onto all day letters.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Judge is getting in, it's a right now. He may
not be.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I said, maybe he gets in. It's still got a
lot of job.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Carlow.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, oh no, he's not getting it.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
No way to stop Barlow.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
No, it's it. The only the only athletes getting it. Really,
it's Rivera and Jeter. If he can't geter Jeter and Rivera,
that's it. Everybody else you gotta it's it's all movie stars.
It's the nineties again.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Man, it's great minus Oakley.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Uh yeah, that's true. Oakley. Oley's not getting unless yeah,
unless he like sneaks in, you know, one of the entrances.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
And one guy standing there with a sign outside of
the garden.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
What's saying. It says free Oakley.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
If I'm the Pacers, I let court side Game three? Oh, absolutely,
Red Carbon invite right there.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So here's the audio of what was being chanted that
MSG late in the game.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
That left sound like Kevin Hart right there.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
They're channing blank you, Reggie. Right, they're chitty at Reggie
Miller because it's like, hey, Reggie Miller's here, let's chant
blank you Reggie.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
It's like, with your headset on, was lit man?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Now? Just in case Reggie Miller didn't know it was
being chanted while Devincenzo was shooting free throws. And look,
the game's over this point. It's an eight point lead,
nine point lead for the nixt about twenty seconds left
to go. Josh Hart wanted to come over and make
sure that Reggie Miller knew what was being chanted. Now
you're gonna hear Reggie. He's talking about the Villanova three
and he says, oh, man, what do you think Jay
(35:43):
Wright is thinking right now? And the next voice you
hear is Josh Hart coming over, making sure that Reggie
knows what is being said to him. All right, there's
my voice. What do you know? Like you? Okay? Thanks?
Speaker 5 (36:02):
I appreciate that, basically calling out his UCLA education.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Now, look, I give Reggie Miller a lot of credit
because he smiled at this and laughing. Look, this is
who Reggie Miller. Man. Reggie Miller's fun. But this is
this is how out of control it was, you know,
one of the players while the game was going This
is like superstardom. This is why people hate the Knicks.
And I understand. Oh not only your chanting blank you
to a broadcaster, But here's one of the guys while
(36:29):
the game is going on, coming over and talking to
you at the scorer's table because the game is over.
This is the atmosphere of Madison Square Garden. This is
a night where the Lebron James is watching this game.
He's going, Man, I would have loved to play there
for a cop. He's not. I would love no, not
now because he's done him. No, no, no no, but
like early in his man, I would love to play
(36:49):
that kind of atmosphere, that kind of atmosphere with that,
with that stuff going on and everybody courtside in the
crowd absolutely insane. There is nothing like. That's why they
call MSG the greatest arena in the world.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Guys, A night after wearing that, Reggie may never unlock
himself out of Wendy's God's point.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
It could be the end of it. But I mean
to be fair, though, Smith.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
For fifty years, it's been what the ninety four Rangers,
your run in ninety nine that ended abruptly, and a
lot of Taylor Swift and Billie Joel concerts. There ain't
been a whole lot to celebrate sports wise. Yeah no, no, no,
I guess NCAA tournament games and whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
But when when he come on, man, you had some
n i T championships won. There doesn't disrespect the n T.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You had that crazy Yukon run back in the day.
Mike Wow Fair Kemba.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Walker Yah see now now we're going to old school.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
There you go. But that's the list.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I had nothing to do with his teams. That's why
this team suck.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
It's why it's why Nick fans are yellow after win
one in the playoffs against the Sixers, feeling we want Boston.
It's like, you gotta beat the Sixers, then win another
series and.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Then maybe you get it. No, no, no, ready for Boston. No,
it's the immediacy. We're banquishing these guys. We're up to nothing.
We're taking their wills slowly but surely. And yeah, so
the fans are gonna be inebriated and excitable, sometimes absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I mean, this is how it is, man, It's just
this is why this series is so much fun. Every
other series, every game is a blow It's like, ah, yeah,
oh we're getting blowouts. Hey, how about this next year?
How about these Thinking about between the Nicks and the Pacers,
think about those games last night. Did we spend a
lot of time on him? Hell no, because they sucked. No,
this one was at least entertaining.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
There's a lot of battling going on, some whining going on,
and you know you're overly excitable.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Look wait till you hear what Rick Carlisle, PACER's head
coach had to say following the Knicks victory over the Pacers,
I'm thinking a big fine is coming his way. You'll
hear it. Next. This is Fox Sports Radio
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