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May 15, 2024 37 mins

Jason and Mike react to Caitlin Clark’s WNBA debut. Jason’s getting closer to one day managing the Mets. And the Knicks are now one game away from the Conference Finals.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Tuesday, The Jason Smith Show with
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(00:53):
Mike Harmon, everybody told me after Game four this series
was over. It was over. The Knicks were done and
there was there was no way they were going to
be able to get back. They were done. They couldn't win.
There was over because they lost one game by twenty five.
It was over thirty seconds to go on the third quarter.
The Knicks lead the Pacers ninety six to seventy four.

(01:15):
It has been all New York since the first quarter.
And let me just say this for the first time
in a couple of days. Go New York O New
York Coat, Go New York O, New York Coat, go
New York, New York. Go there. I feel good just
thirty seconds out of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know, it's really good about this.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
I figured out the timing of when you're gonna do
those yelling things since you're operating from the Mobile tire
Act dot Com Fox Sports Radio Study today, I just
muted you. I literally turned my sound down to zero,
counted to seven and said, okay, I can turn it
back up now.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Oh it's good. Go go New York coach, Go New
York O New York. CoA, go New York, New York.
How about that we're able to get rid of that, Go.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
New York, New York co Oh yeah, I turned you
way way way down. Sure, sure, way way down.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Go New York, New York, New York. You're not sitting
New York, Go New York, New York. Go about that.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
We're a national radio station.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
You're being in New York.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Goat or a network hundreds of affiliates nationwide, global.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And what's your point.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
You're bringing us to the lowest time a denominator here
with your go.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
New York go. Oh my god, listen, I'm sorry, you're
I'm sorry. The bulls aren't in the place.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's got nothing to do with the sorry.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm very you're everything that's wrong with you. You're just
upset that finally my team is one of my teams.
Is good because most of my teams have sucked for
the past ten years. We've been on the air together.
It's been okay, but maybe yesterday go back by now,
it's just we were doing You were except for being
really really mad.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Remember that was how you described it. You were really
really mad about the point loss.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
I were in between all of that, and we can
parse it out and put it back together like the
jigsaw puzzle that it is.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
You were admitting defeat of this squad starting to fade.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Finally find out I told from the beginning this, this
magic carpet ride is gonna end at some point. But
do that? Would they have enough for the end of
the Pacers series? Yes, now, Passers, I have no idea.
How solid did they played tonight? Well, no, an opportunity
to go against the squad. You're getting out, rebounded, out,
worked out, hustle, you were getting everything. It's unbelievable. Look,

(03:29):
i'll tell you why. This game is at going to
the fourth quarter and still still a lot of time
left to go fourth quarter. Pacers. You know they're gonna
keep shooting threes like they've been doing all game, and
they're eleven out of nineteen, so they've been shooting pretty well.
But it is a twenty one point lead for the Knicks.
Lead it is Look, the Knicks have out everything, yeah,
Pacers right like that. You could talk about a whole

(03:51):
bunch of different things. They have out everything the Pacers.
And the reason they're doing this is because.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Because are going off.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
YESU, You're gonna find out the end of the game.
Rick Carlo is gonna go. Hey, you know, the Knicks
had seven players on the floor because Starks and Marberri
are in my guy's faces every time they get a basket. Dude,
they were on the court. Hey, Marbury made a couple
of shots. I mean, I don't like Stark's taking those
long threes because he hasn't taken them in twenty five years.
But I'm okay with Marburn. Marbury stil can move a
little bit. It's okay.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I really just wanted more mellow.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
But but look, this is this is what's happened tonight,
and it's really surprising is that the Knicks have either
gotten the Pacers or the Pacers have gotten so wrapped
up in this emotionally where the Knicks have gotten them
to play physical again, and that ain't the way Indiana
is going to win a game or a series. They
have gotten the Pacers to play physical. There's been a

(04:42):
lot of questions, it's been there's been fouls. You just
had a double technical on Miles Turner and Dante DiVincenzo.
It's been a very physical game, right physical for the
backcourt guys setting picks on TJ McConnell, picks on Josh Art,
picks on Jalen Brunson. It has been a physical, emotional
game and the Pacers this is not how they're going
to win. And the Knicks got them to play that

(05:02):
way the first two games in Madison Square Guard. It
could be as simple as a we're an MSG, you know,
you know, we we're at a disadvantage already playing on
the road. You know, these big market teams are gonna
get all the calls, the big market teams, their market teams.
But but maybe it's as simple as that is that
they are They got away from what they do best.
They got away from pacing, They got away from what
from what their strong part of their team is. And look,

(05:24):
you have Halliburton with eleven points, all right, when if
they won, when Halliburton's been the guy that's been running
everything right, he's got eleven, he's minus fifteen. The Knicks
are out everything the Pacers. But the Pacers have done
them a favor by either being goaded into or being
okay with, for some reason, playing this physical style, which
I don't get because the Pacers know this is not
how you're gonna beat the Knicks if you play into

(05:45):
their physical style. This is how the Knicks play. This
is why the Knicks get the benefit dowt on fouls
because they play physical, They know how, they know what
boundaries they can push and not get a whistle. This
is what Rick Carlisle is so upset about. Crying crying,
But that's what I'm most stunned about, is that I thought,
coming into this game, okay, Pacers are gonna come out.
They're gonna say what worked the last couple of games
is gonna work again. The Knicks were tired. We're gonna pace,

(06:08):
We're gonna go up and down the floor. And it's
not been that way, and all of a sudden since
the second quarter, it's been the Pacers have just decided
to leave their identity behind. And it's not like they're
not making tons of shots. They're shooting forty five percent
from the floor, They've made almost sixty percent of their threes,
they've made almost all their free throws. It's just they've
gotten away from what makes them good. And that's why

(06:31):
the Knicks are up so big going to the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Keep the ball moving, don't get sucked into the physicality
of it. It's just been really a head scratcher to
watch this as it unraveled. Man, this is the old
get into the WWF from back in our day. You know,
Jesse Ventura in talks potentially to come back and have
some sort of role, but this is where he returned
to Gerrilla mon soon saying, you're a finesque guy, You're

(06:53):
a finasque guy.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
You don't get into a new York Street fight. That
is not what you do here. I mean, look, I'm
just watching one of the Knicks. I couldn't tell who
it was. One of the old Knicks, one of the
classic Knicks who's at the game with Marv, just just
grabbed TJ. Mccotty like kidding around with him, obviously, So
it's not something that was like, oh my god, is
a fight. We're all the where all the Knicks were

(07:16):
McConnell there, there was a time out on the floor
and McConnell. One of the Knicks just grabs him from
behind and starts shaking. McConnell is laughing. Well, I can
see one of the whisper in his ear real fast.
I'm like, this is like the Knicks have like nine
guys on the floor. But that's just it.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Now you're playing psychological game, you know.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
You you try to rough up Devincenzo again, We're coming
for you.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, you know that kind of thing. Imagine if Oakley
was allowed in the garden.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Let me lend not hang on now, hang on, hang on.
Do you really think Charles Oakley's not at the game.
Do you really know he's not there in disguise somewhere
do you really think he's They're stubborn.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
And then there's Charles Oakley.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Do you really think he's not there somewhere hidden in
some disguise, Like do you want.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
To come down them from the rafters like those years ago?
You wouldn't be there in the garden. Yeah, but he
wouldn't be there just to watch them play. No, no, no,
he would announce his return with authority. No, no, no,
he would not be cloaking dagger.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
He can't though Oakley's not allowed in the garden. He
can't just out look at Charles Oakley because then security
walk up and say, okay, come this way, mister Oakley area.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
But is he a shrinking violet? You think he's walking
in there without being like, don't you know who I am?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
No?

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Ja, there is there is an update on this story.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Oh there is.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Okay, what he actually is allowed in the garden, but
he told them no, not until Dolan apologizes.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh, so he's not going to be in there, He's
never going to the garden. Well, but that's just it.
And then the Knicks fired back, going, well, that may
not be accurate. So somewhere in between, the truth does lie.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
If you're waiting for an apology from that man.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Good luck, that's not how he again, he doesn't even
know the Knicks are in the playoffs. He has no
idea what's going on right now.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
He just wants to know about the gates.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
He comes in every day and says, boy, the Garden
made a lot of money. Lesson another Billy Joel concert. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right, mister Dolan. Yeah, it's awesome so far. Yeah. Great.
Just keep staying away. We're doing well. Keep staying away.
It's like in the remember the remember that episode of
the Office where Jim convinces Dwight that it was it
was Friday, It was really Thursday, and and Dwight didn't
show up the next day for work. They spent all
day Thursday convincing Dwight that it was Friday. That's what

(09:16):
they do to James Doll. They convince him. No, there's
no playoff games, there's no nothing. People just go back
and they they look at his you know, they look
at his his his daily calendar, and they make sure
that Okay, he doesn't know what's going on. He thinks
something else is going something else is happening. Maybe put
Taylor Swift there, No, Taylor Swift is too tough. Let's
put Katy Perry and that's why people are coming to games.
Let's try to convince him that's what's happening right now,

(09:37):
that's why the Knicks are playing.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
So and you just hand him a guitar and send
him on his way.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, that's it, It's all you need to do.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Here, you go, we had we had the chat GBT, GBT, uh,
send you some lyrics on the Knicks and their history.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Go work up a song.

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Indiana has made a couple of baskets with eleven just
under eleven minutes left to go in the game. We'll

(10:12):
have more on this game coming up in a few minutes.
But you know, the the subplot here, or some might
even say the main course of basketball. Tonight, we had
the WNBA debut of Caitlin Clark. Indiana Fever get rolled
by the Connecticut Sun Charter Flight and All ninety two
seventy one. Caitlin Clark's first game, the two screen experience here.

(10:35):
You know, it's okay. It was. It wasn't as awful
as people are gonna make it out to be. It
was a rough ish debut. But the best thing I
can say, and that I think everybody's taking a big
sigh of relief, is that the game is not too
much for her. Right, That's the one thing. Is the
WNBA gonna be too much? What's gonna happen? Caitlin Clark
tonight twenty points, ten turnovers. All right, so not a

(10:58):
great night, not a mite. She's gonna say, Hey, my
debut was you know, Chris Weber, you know, dunking behind
my back and making all things right. No, it's not
gonna be that. It's not Lebron's debut. But she did
score twenty points, she led Indiana in scoring, and she
was able to hit four threes. Yes, you saw it. Defensively,
it's gonna be a little bit different for Carrington was phenomenal,

(11:19):
especially in the first half, picking her pocket a couple
of times. Her welcome to the WNBA moment, right, and
I get that, but she still scored twenty in her debut.
Indiana is a you know, sellout crowd. I could say
maybe the co number one story with the NBA playoffs tonight,
and she looked like she belonged. So for all of this, Oh,
it's gonna be difficult for her, and and forget it,

(11:41):
and it's gonna be a welcome to the NBA and
watch how she struggles. That's not gonna happen. There's gonna
be nights when she struggles shooting. That's gonna be that way.
But like I said, going in, she's Steph Curry, She's
going to find her shots. She still scored twenty tonight.
Even though the one thing I can say I was
stunned aad is that the two touch fouls they whistled
on her in the five minutes, I'm like, what of

(12:01):
the w what are you doing? You're whistling touch fouls
on Caitlin Clark in the first five minutes of her debut.
What the hell are you doing? So they just gotta
go to the bench, doesn't play. So she did play
a little bit of foul trouble early, and that's a thing, obviously,
but you and you look overall, Hey, twenty points, all right,
we'll cut down on the turnovers. She belongs. She's gonna

(12:22):
be good right away. It's going to happen. Everybody who
was worried that she's gonna come in and struggle her
rookie years, that not gonna happen. Will she hit the
wall a little bit because it's a lot of basketball
back to back. Yes, coming off a big college season,
it's only been a few weeks. Now you have the
WNBA season. Yeah, she'll have her ups and down, she'll
she'll hit a little bit of a valley as a rookie,

(12:42):
but overall, she's gonna be just fine. She's gonna be
a star right away. And this is exactly what the
WNBA needed.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
No, I dig your mister, Brightside. That's good. You get
to the twenty points. Remember you hit the under.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
It was twenty and a half, so betters that BacT
needed better than a five.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
For fifteen shooting performance.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
The ten turn over concerning, and she's gonna get everybody's
best punch. I mean that is we know that coming
out of the gate and settled in in the second
half and things looked a little more fluid Certainly the
early file trouble didn't help. Nice coup for Disney, plus
to get that a couple of times as that game
got away, I was tempted, and I actually did go

(13:21):
over and watch a little from the Snugly Duckling from Tangled. Well,
there you go, Oka that surrounded by enormous piles of money,
because that's what everybody's celebrating tonight. And for the Sun,
a huge crowd. The get in came down late, you
had a little bit of flourish of ticket sales, but
earlier in the day you were talking about one hundred
and fifty for get In versus their second game, which

(13:43):
is like fifteen. So yeah, the Caitlin Clark effect is
certainly there. But a lot of eyeballs and a lot
of scrutiny and those that want to say, aha, you
had enough in this game tour at least for one night.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
You can do that. On the other side, you know,
she can only get better from here.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
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story coming up here from Caitlin Clark as well. Right now,
eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter, Nicks on
top of the Pacers, one oh three to eighty six.
They have the ball. Nick's looking to go up three
games to two in the Eastern Conference SEMIS. But coming

(14:22):
up next after big news today at Fox Sports Radio,
I think the door is open for me to be
the manager of the New York Mets. Let Joe, I
think the door is open for that. That's ahead right here,
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(15:37):
to go in the fourth quarter of the Knicks continue
to lead the Pacers by twenty one oh six eighty
six forty two for Jalen Brunson. It's been a huge
night for the Nick starters. Alec Burks off the bench
has twelve suddenly, but for the I know, right, all
of a sudden, it's like Alec Burks, who wasn't even
in the rotation, uh, you.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Know, like like a locked up baby.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
They got him at the trade deadline. He couldn't hit
a shot, he was out of the rotation forever and
now suddenly, well I got no choice. Hey, look at this,
this guy's forging out how to make shots again.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Outstanding well I think he sat there with like those warm,
warm sleeves on, so his arms were ready. Yeah, yeah,
it's gotta be an ice cold and needing. No, no, no,
we kept him nice and warm, little thermal things, you know,
like they have for circulation and stuff as you go.
You know, this game has gotten the field to me,
Like I watch a lot of EPL during the day

(16:27):
ride Champions League and stuff soccer from abroad, and there's
those times where they do a couple of reviews or
injury time whatever, to where it seems like it's never
gonna end. This feels like the end of in you know,
added time, where it's like, can we just blow the
whistle and be done with this damn game or any.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh No, the Pacers still try and they think they
can hit some threes and get back into it. This
stiff there's still five minutes left to go. What if
we got a little bit uh, once we get inside
of three minutes, two and a half minutes, I think
then you'll see maybe see some kind of running clock.
Although I don't know, maybe Rick Carlisle will find way
to get thrown out of the game. I don't know.
I'm waiting to see what he has to say.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I keep waiting for Devincenzo and Miles Turner to get
back into it again. That little elbow that Devincenzo game
because he didn't like the high screen that was being
set when they got the double technical.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
That that gave us a moment.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
I got a little bit of a fire and then uh,
Indiana actually started to hit a couple of shots, and
then all the leads swelled back down to twenty very quickly.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, you know, it's kind of like when you see
a hockey game and the enforcer goes out to fight
because you need to calm things down and it could
be a fight. Like, I feel like that's what the
Pacers are doing every possession. It's okay, Miles Turner, you
set a screen on one of their guards, right like everywhere,
you set a screen on one of these guys, and
he's like, he's like trying to be the enforcer here
to calm the game down a little bit.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Well, but both Heart and Devincenzo are guys that are
gonna come through, you know, guns blazing on you. Like
they're not gonna say, oh, he's set in a screen
and I'm gonna enter this softly nah, let's try to
run through him. And if it ends up being a
brawl thereafter, what are you gonna.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Time out on the floor. New York has just hit
back to back threes. Just over four minutes left to go.
It is a one twelve eighty eight lead for the
Knicks in Game five of the Eastern Conference SEMIS. Again,
we'll have more on this game coming up in a
few minutes. But look, there's news and there's crazy news
that makes you just go wow. Big news for us

(18:21):
here at Fox Sports Radio today, big news across the
country is our colleague, Doug Gottlieb is going to be
the new head coach at University of Wisconsin Green Bay.
Go he interviewed last year and it went to somebody else,
and you know, after an eighteen fourteen year he left
to go be the head coach at Wyoming, and Doug
Gottlieb is now the head coach at Wisconsin Green Bay.

(18:42):
You know, look, Doug and I talk about stuff, and
you know, we've done tons of shows together over the
past few years, and I know coaching is something that
absolutely lights him up. He was coaching the Maccabie Games
a couple of times. He was the head coach. He
coached under Bruce Pearl. So he's gonna be the new
head coach Wisconsin Green Bay. But here's the best part.
He is keeping his show here at Fox Sports Radio.

(19:05):
This is fascinating and it's brilliant and it's a social
experiment I can't wait to see. I mean, we've never
seen something this is the newest of new school where
here's a head coach of a team who now not
only is gonna have a right because you know, the
coaches have radio shows. Usually it's one day a week.
They show up for two hours, they answer questions from

(19:25):
fans at a bar or some kind of thing, and
they leave. That's the coaches show. This is gonna be
a national radio show every day where Doug's gonna continue
to come out and give you his takes on stuff.
And it's not gonna be all Wisconsin Green Bay action, obviously,
and he's gonna be the head coach and do this.
And this is just absolutely fascinating from so many perspectives
because it's polarized because there's people that hate this right away.

(19:47):
It's wondering how long can something like this last? Can
it last? Can he still go with hot takes? Can
he still give you know, big time hot takes? Went Okay,
you're now you're representing Wisconsin Green Bay as well. This
is just gonna be oh fascinating to watch and see
it unfold. I mean, what is this today? And I said,
oh my god. And then of course my second thought was,
if Doug can go from radio and you know, and

(20:10):
I've done tons of shows with Doug, if Doug can
go from radio and he can coach Wisconsin Green Bay,
I can go from radio and manage a bleeping Mets,
Like I think that can happen, man. I mean football
is too tough. There's too much to go into it.
I mean, I mean there's there's a lot of planning
and you got to get up really early in the morning. No, no, no, no,
I can go manage them. If Doug can do this,
I can manage the Mets. Man. I'm thinking this can happen.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
So what you're saying is, I mean with baseball and
the analytics departments and the reports that they give you,
that you don't have to work very hard because I mean, look,
we chastised your man yesterday for not challenging what should
have been a called third strike.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I would have chatted that they made no effort. He
just screamed, oh, come on blue and then stood that and.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Then watch the game unravel for your ideas.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Terrible time, man.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I think the door's open man. For first, it was hey,
when when a guy like Tony Kornheiser got Monday Night Football,
I thought, oh, hey, the door's open for people like
us to do to do.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
That, right, was Dennis Miller, come on, let's go.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
But but now, but now I'm like, oh, wait a minute, man, Well, well,
Dennis Miller was outside of sports. That was like, hey,
we're gonna leapfrog you guys. To go to a comedian.
This is like hey someone, he was great, and hey
Daily Show. Now I'm like, hey, wait a minute, you
Doug can go, he can go, And yeah, okay, you
know Doug's coach in Maccabi games, coach youth. I've coached youth,
not mean I've coached softball. I have the same kind

(21:34):
of resume. I think I should call Steve Cohen's court
side of the next game right now. I say, listen,
when it doesn't work out with Mendoza, call me and
I'll do it. I'll still do my show. At night.
We may need to start an hour later because the
Mets games will end a little bit right before the show,
so I have to stay with the Mets all the
way through.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
But the mast the first want to.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Do the show?

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, yeah, you can do it from the dugout. I
mean if allow him to do interviews. I mean you
can do segments. Oh no, No, I would definitely stand
over and staring out at the the field. There's no
question about that.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I would have to do it from the dugout, Like
I mean, we could be like a.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Lot of shows and just tape a bunch of stuff
and then hope nothing big happens.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
No, but I could. But I think if, if, if
they set me up and hey here's you know, this
is skip studio, do the show after. You know, he's
gonna talk about us a little bit, talk about other
stuff like Lindor and Alonzo at the wall listening. Is
he talking about us? Is he talking about us? Like?
I could do that? Like I really, I mean I
could do I could manage the Mets. If this is
the Doug Gottlieb is blazing the trail for me to
manage the Mets.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
A four year old can manage the Mets.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, hey, come on now, man, come on eight or nine.
Come on, four years old. They're still learning what colors they.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, this is gotta says ten plus right, eight or nine,
because you got to be able to handle the salty language.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
And I know at four and five you hear a
lot of it.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Now, I mean, if you're traversing cable television and and
or just walking.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Through a grocery store, I mean, you're gonna hear all that.
But you know, moy exactly, I mean, yeah, have a
lot of that.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
But you know, if we say ten plus now it
becomes really the parental guidance kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Congratulations, Doug.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I heard him chatting it up with our guys Petros
and Money on AM five to seventy l a sports
earlier on his way to the airport, and he was
kind of laying out his next four days and the
like if you planned to sleep or eat in any
of that, the number of people he's gonna meet with
with the flights and the layovers and the drive or whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I mean, because Green Bay is not easy to get to.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
No, no, no, it's not. It's not, and it's it's
gonna be a little bit of ways. It's like if
you live someplace, it's like a fifteen minute drive to
get to the freeway. It's like, it takes me fifteen
minutes to get to the freeway. I'm not gonna get there.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
And then you gotta get out of your car and
ride a bicycle.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, but look, let's do because there's there's good and
there's questions about this, right, and I wouldn't be fairly
and Doug would say, well, what do you think? What
do you think? Why would Wisconsin Green Bay say yes?
This right? Polarizing? Why would they say yes? The Horizon
Conference has their coach Prime, right, Like, nobody is coming

(24:04):
in with a bigger with a bigger presence than Doug
who has been on TV for twenty years and on
the radio for twenty years. It's been analyzing basketball for
twenty years. He is he is the coach Prime of
the Horizon League. Can he do a radio show? Yeah?
In Wisconsin, his show will be ten to twelve? Right?
What are they doing from ten to twelve? Right? Kids

(24:24):
are in class, they're not practicing, they're not leaving for
a game yet. Now will there be a lot of
days where there well, no No, he's two to he's twelve.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
To two ahead of us.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
He's twelve, so he's two to four there where practice
isn't isn't quite happening yet, So he's still able to
be able to do that in the middle of the
day before they wind up having practice. Right, kids are
in class, they're going through they're going through things.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Now.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Will there be a lot of times where they'll be
filling in for Doug Gottlieb. Yeah, that'll happen when he's
traveling or something is going on. There will be that.
But could he do it? Yeah, it's a new school thing, right,
And Dion Sanders coming in and doing what he's doing
in Colorado makes a lot of schools think, hey, it
doesn't need to be one certain way. Maybe there's a

(25:09):
bunch of different ways that we can get a successful
head coach. And Dion's way Colorado's gonna see right, it's
gonna be a short shelf life. So it doesn't work
right away, there's gonna be changes. But him coming in saying, hey,
I don't need to have this great system. I can
be the big CEO, and I can do the recruiting
and I can I can be that guy, and I
got other people running systems for me and everything else. Yeah,

(25:31):
you know what, Uh okay, maybe this can work. Why
not let's give it a try. Right, So we've seen
that this can work. But now if I'm saying where
this thing would sit, I would say, without knowing anything, right,
without knowing anything, I would say, this is probably a
let's see how this year goes and see where we're at. Right,

(25:52):
because for his consecrete back, if they have a bad year,
or if they don't win enough games, or who knows
whatever it is, or or if if it could be
just hey, this might be a little bit too taxing,
and and we we really were not getting great optics
from it. It's a little bit of a distraction just
knowing how things go in sports, that this will be
reevaluated in the year. Again, I don't know anything, but

(26:13):
I got to think some kind of thing is, Hey,
this will go for a year, and then we'll see
where we're at. We'll say, and he's got to see
where he's at after still want to keep doing a
show after a year, He's got I want to keep
doing more coaching. I want to do all of this.
So there's going to be I would say this has
got to be a year thing and then they'll reevaluate.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
No, but that's the thing, right, And and Doug knows
what he's walking into. He's not a shrinking violet that
you know he's going to. Uh, he knows the poison
pens are out there. I mean, we know that, right.
He's a guy that has been very strong in his
opinions and rankle, you know, and ruffle some feathers at times.
So you know, certainly I saw enough folks immediately in

(26:52):
the socials and little write ups trying to take their digs.
It's ambitious, and obviously, you know, we we throw our
some and wish him the best that this can work
for you to go become the Mets manager or whatever
else it flows into, but you know, to try to
figure out that balance for Green Bay. It's great exposure
because I mean, now you can put that in the

(27:14):
intros of the Doug Gottlieb show. Hey, he's been doing
this for two decades and he's the head coach of
the Wisconsin green Bay Let's go, it's Doug Gottlieb's time.
I mean, it's great promotion for the conference and for
the team, and for the school, great affiliation, nobody's more
excitable about the sport and college basketball. Now I sound

(27:35):
like I should be getting a cut as his agent
or PR guy, But the reality is, I mean that
that's Doug. I mean he's walking, breathing Encyclopedia and love
of college buckets. So this is he gets a shot. Right,
He's been been trying to get and you know, break
in into the club for a while, and now he
gets in and with Scott and Don and the heads

(27:57):
here at Fox Sports Radio, you know, I'll have those
discussions and for a year. Yeah, I would think that's
exactly it. Right. You try to get proof of concept
that you can work in that nothing suffers, that there's
no extra strain either on the people working on the
show or for Doug at the university and the relationships
he's got to cultivate there and then you go from there.

(28:18):
But yeah, it's it's gonna be fascinating to watch it
unfold and wish him the best. I know he was
on a plane getting out there today on meeting with
the team and everything else. So yeah, day one, Wow.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
And and hey, let's not let this distract us from
the biggest part of the story is that the door
is open for me to manage the Mets. Well, I mean.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
It's a lot of You're gonna have to throw as
much support Doug's way as you can. You might have
to send him some extra sandwiches to cut down on,
you know, his meal time, that he can be as
operationally efficient, as successful as absolutely possible, because then the
door is open.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah. I mean, look, I need Dean to win and
I need Doug to win because if both those those
things happen. Hey, guess what, Steve Cohen, this guy on Twitter,
he's pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
When we have our head, let's go.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's my thing, man. I mean, we already know John
Paul Morosi, who's gonna join us later. It's a perfect
night to have JP, because, you know, as he told
us a couple of weeks ago, Hey, you know I
talked to David Stearns, who runs the New York Mets,
and hey, anytime you have something to say, positive reinforcement,
something about the team, and poytough to find something positive
the last couple of days. Hey, I can tell him.
And what was the last thing I what was the

(29:29):
last thing I told JP? Hey? Uh, tell David Stearns.
I'm looking forward to seeing Christian Scott when he comes up.
Kid looks like he's ready. A week later, Christian Scott
came up and he's ready, man, and he can deal.
So I already feel like I am disclose. Now. I
just need Doug to win, and I need Dian to win,
and this can happen. Man, this can happen. Mets manager

(29:50):
Fox Sports radio host Jason Smith Boom, and I can
do all the games. I can do this. Oh my god,
it would be so great. I would get to manage
the game. And when we stink and we suck, like
last night blowing the game or today when we were
dead from the neck up, I can go right on
the air and rip those guys.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Nah.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
I mean, well, you can't do a full lee Elia.
I'll have to hit the dump button a few.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Times on you.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
But I mean the call up when you were pretty
much hover since in walking in talking about Tartar sauce
to mister Burns. Yeah, you can have your precious Tartar sauce.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Oh I'm so excited man, this, I am this close
to managing the Mets. Mendo, you know, we gotta call
Todd Furman, find out what the odds are on me
managing the Mets have gone to because they had to go,
They had to go on. They had to kind of movement. Yeah,
like instead of like Todd would normally say, Smith, I'll
give you any odds you want. Now, it might be
like three to one, you know, two to one.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I don't I don't know. I don't know. That shrink
all the way down.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Have to figure it out. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike
Carmon live from the ti iraq dot Com Studios. Forty
five seconds left to go in New York. The Pacers
trying to cut into the Nick lead if they make
this free throw. Oh, they just made the free throw.
It is a thirty point lead for the New York Knicks.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Hej car talking about his kids golf travels again.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
With forty five seconds left to go, So the Knicks
are gonna take Game five. Coming up next, we break
down the biggest NBA story of the night. Keep it
right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm. Eastern seven
pm Pacific. The Knicks went and ren away from the Paceries.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Tonight in the second, third, and fourth quarters Fox Sports
Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, Hi, Bunny, Hey,
just so you know, Yeah, we talked about potential my
path to managing the Mets being so wide open after
Doug Gottlie got the gig. Today already people here at
Fox are asking me what they could do. Bernie Frattle

(31:58):
wants to know, you know, who's the out of Vegas
on the weekend. Say, I told him I'd make him
my traveling secretary and gambling advisor. Oh, I don't. Maybe
the MLB would frown on that, a manager having a
gambling advisor. I don't know. Do you think are they
are they? Are they they open for that? Do you
think that's that's it's still ste Well.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I think you need to. I mean, basically, he's becoming
your Epay, Okay, all right now.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
I think what you're saying is Bernie's training by Beck
training your bank Again. I think what you're trying to
say is you need Consiglieri to advise, you know, things
he may see untourn on the field to wonder if
guys aren't uh you know, kind of got some.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Funny business going on.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Maybe maybe that's what you what kind of role he
can have there in terms of actually advising you about gambling.
I mean, it is all about odds and percentages, so
I mean there is some validity to that. I don't
know that you want to use that title. Well, but
it's not like Rob Bamford's gonna get involved.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah but when Yeah, but would in baseball. Hey listen,
I want to make sure I gamble right and responsibly.
I don't want to get bad. So I have a
gambling advisor. Isn't that a good thing that I would
have to like that?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
I mean, come on, I've got somebody look get out
for me.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Uh So, well, that's how I'm already filling out my staff.
I'm probably two years away from getting this job, but
I'm filling out a staff.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well, it's got you gotta get that proof of concept going.
So Doug's got to hit it running.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yep. If Doug wins and Dion wins, it's happening. Man.
Don't look now, Carlos Mendoza, I'm coming for your job. Uh. Meanwhile,
the biggest story in the NBA were starting Game two
already Minnesota and Denver. In Game five of the t
Wolves lead at eight six eight minutes to go in
the first quarter. The New York Knicks bulldozed and boat
race the Pacers tonight. There's not a lot you can

(33:40):
say other than it was a complete and total Knicks
domination one twenty one to ninety one. Go New York, Goat,
New York, Goat. They now lead this series three games
to two. And I you know, and here's the thing, Mike,
is that I told you last night what I was
okay with, what I was mad about, what I was
really mad about. Right, I was okay with. Look, I
know at some point that Nick's magic carpet ride will

(34:01):
come to an end. Do they have enough of the Pacers? Yeah,
but maybe they don't, but I think they do, So
I'm okay with that. I'm mad at the fact that
suddenly Rick Carlisle goes from crying about all kinds of
calls and now that they tie the series up, it's
like a little kid who's crying and give him a
lollypop and he stops. And I'm also really really mad
at everybody who said, oh the Knicks are done. They

(34:21):
lost the game by twenty. They're exhausted. The Knicks are done.
There's no way they can come back. This series is over.
The Knicks just absolutely obliterated Indiana and there's nothing you
can say. I really want to see what Rick Carlisle
says after the game. Hey, you know, I really thought
the team was really they weren't as focused because they
were all checking their phones, how Caitlin Clark was doing.

(34:42):
We weren't really focused on the game. I mean, I mean,
what are they gonna say, Oh, the Northern Lights. We're
all kept looking. Guys are all talking about the Northern
Lights and can we see him from here? And I
can't see him? And they look great on Facebook. I mean,
Rick Carlisle, there's nothing he can say other than we
got beat. It's not about fouls. They tried to play physically.
This was the Knicks just out every them from the beginning.
And it's stunning that a team with all that momentum

(35:05):
came into this game and lost like that. I'm not
surprised the Knicks. One look, if you said, hey, what's
the most likely outcome for the Knicks in Game five, Well,
they have another gutting not you know, look the gas
tank getting towards empty, but they find a way to
gut it out. By the most I would say they'd
win by five or seven. But this was where the Pacers,
no matter what they tried, they could not even get

(35:27):
into this game, not get back into it. They couldn't
get into it after the first quarter.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Well, as we talked about yesterday right in your really
really mad segment, was me'd kind of laying it out
of Well, here's the logic of whether they can you know,
get it muster enough to get a victory.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Don't know, but you know they're not going down without
a fight.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Now, did you think that in the Indiana would show
up and try to match that?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
No, And they got bully.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
They shot forty three percent from the field, forty four
percent from three point range. They had eighteen turnovers to
the Knicks nine. They got out re bounded by twenty
four oh and they gave up twenty offensive rebounds. Your
guy Hartenstein had twelve deeven jenjo for the game was
four fourteen oh of six went for eight and seven

(36:12):
and you still won by thirty. That's the kind of
thing you got into the street fight, they lulled you
in and then you just plunged him from pillar to post.
And so for Rick Carlile, he issues one statement, we
got our asses kicked, that's it. And he could cite
all the stats like I just did.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Do you do you think? Do you think Rick Carlile
can help himself? Though? That's I can't wait to see
what he says, Kenny help himself. Is he gonna say,
you know, more small market teams who show up in
the big city. Now get off the bus, and you know,
there's so many people trying to take your money right
out of the gate. And I don't know, we don't
know what's going on. We get to the big city.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
He's gonna talk about how the basketball is a beautiful
game of flow and continuity, and the way the Knicks
bodied up and played football tonight, there was none of
that going to be allowed.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Coming up next, we got more from the NBA, more
from Clayton Clark's debut, and a big NFL story. Keep
it right here.
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