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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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(00:51):
tire buying should be. Well, this is a very stre
This is almost gonna be a no nixt night because
we'll watch you allot but good, so much rate, so
much stress. I don't have the next couple of nights
three to two lead. Everything is awesome. I kind of
felt like today, Hey listen, Alex Tyshirt, Rick Carlile. We
don't have time to listen right now. I kind of
felt like the last day, like, hey, this is how

(01:12):
I felt like when the Jets win a playoff game,
you know, like twelve years ago, Like hey, I feel
good for I really really good for a couple of
days until they have to get nervous about them playing again.
It's like, that's kind of where I'm at right now.
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, you get to chill and because I mean, you're
playing with house money. Yeah, at this point. You know,
it's crazy that you know how much I hate it
as it's used way too liberally in our business, but
let's call it what it is. You're playing with five
and a half guys at this point. So the fact
that you have a series lead and Game seven is
in your pocket back home, Yeah, you're feeling pretty deep,

(01:46):
pretty deep, pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You think there's this there's a there's a mid playoff
sponsorship deal for the Knicks with five guys, Like, is
there room for that? I mean, I think you could
really make some money as long as they're still playing well.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean, we saw how quickly nil deals came together
in the NCAA tournament. They were literally finding guys in
the hallways of their hotels two hours after games ending.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
You hit a big shot, let's go no hit some
ca Oh, I have money for you. Hang on a second,
here's a bag of cash. You now go against that
beij wall back there. Who's the guy next to my roommate?
Did he play to night in six minutes? Yeah, I'll
get you another time. Don't worry about it here. Congratulations,
But look tonight another big night in the NBA playoffs.

(02:33):
Right now into the first quarter, Dallas leads Oklahoma City
twenty four to twenty two. Oklahoma City trying to go
up three games to two over Dallas, and we saw
Boston eliminate the Cavaliers one thirteen to ninety eight. Has
Donovan Mitchell signed with the Lakers yet? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Lebron did his recruiting visit he did the last game,
sat there, even brought a really expensive bottle of wine
court side.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Hey, this opus could be yours, man.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Maybe that's why he looked so upset on the side.
I'm here and he's not even playing a great I
came all the way to.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
This game, came to scout him, and he didn't even
show up.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I came to recruit him and also to let people
know that I could come here if nobody else wants
to draft Browny, because I know I can get the
Cavaliers a draft Brownie if I say I'm coming back.
This is what a wasted trip this was. Maybe he's
not even playing.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I gotta say the videos from those tunnels. The tunnel though,
as Lebron was walking into the arena, like the people
that looked.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Up, it's like, what the hell, there's hey Lebron. Hey.
At this point, it's like, yeah, he's here. He leaves,
he comes back, he leaves, he comes back. It doesn't
like it's gone.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Could be a hologram. You don't even know what you're back.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh yeah, he's like he was the guy that went
away for so long. Oh now he's back, and now
he just comes back a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Now, Yeah, he's that guy that comes back every every
Thanksgiving to the local bar where he was once king.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
We have a lot to get to with NFL schedule
a lease day, but look, it's got to get something
something serious here off off the top and watching the
Celtics beat the Cavaliers. I know this series and other
series I'm watching, I say to myself, you know what
the NBA really has a playoff problem. They have a
playoff problem in that too many series end like this

(04:21):
when a sport needs to be at its best, right,
this is when everybody is watching the NBA playoffs have
everything to themselves. No NFL games are going on. You know,
we've seen baseball start. Here's the NBA playoffs with the
great stars that are out there. And too many series
end like this. They end in blowouts, and they end
with star players not playing. And I understand, you can't
control the game, and you can't control when guys are hurt. Mainly,

(04:43):
although sometimes I look and I go, really, don and
Mitchell couldn't play anything. He finishes the last game, he
scores thirty five. He can't play in this game. Too
many NBA series end this way, and it's the reason
why there's so much attention on the Knicks and the pace.
You see, I said, no next, but the Knicks and
the for all going on? How much fun is this series?
Because I know both these teams are trying to beat

(05:07):
the brains out of the other one. As much as
I make fun of Rick carlile and is whining and
crying about a star, I know he wants to win.
I know how bad he wants to beat the Knicks
and get to the Eastern Conference Finals. I know how
bad Jalen Brunson wants to win, how bad Dante DiVincenzo
wants to win. I know how bad that that Guys
like TJ McConnell.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Want to win.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I know this, But you look around the NBA and
there's so many playoffs that just kind of end with whimpers.
Every other game is a blowout. And when you see
star players that just sit that, you realize there's a
playoff problem. The numbers aren't going up. They're kind of
been stagnant, which has been an overall trend in the
NBA because you can you can look at some numbers
say okay, well more people are watching here, but less

(05:47):
people are watching here. But overall, the NBA has a
product issue. I mean, it's why the NFL has come
for Christmas Day. Hey, NFL was never gonna play on
Christmas daycase, look, NBA owned and everybody's watching. Now. Look
look the NFL saw last year. Hey, we get twice
so many people watching our games as watching your games.
So guess what We're gonna have games on Christmas Day?
Every year and we got two games on Netflix. Now

(06:08):
they've been seventy five million dollars for it. The NFL
has said, yeah, you know what, the NBA not as
big a threat, but when you get to the playoffs,
when you get to the playoffs, this is the sport
where the sport needs to be at the highest level
it can be. And while it's great watching the Kola
Jokic you'll play well, it's really something and watching the
Timberwolves play when every game is a blowout and at

(06:29):
the end, I see the Timberwolves say, oh, we're laughing,
and what can we say? Jokich is the MVP. You
know what I want to see after that? I want
to see, hey man, we can't let him do that.
We cannot let him just run free and roam free.
We gotta find a way because this is the bleep
in NBA playoffs. We were up to ZIP and now
he's controlling this series. And instead of you going Anthony

(06:49):
Edwards saying, yeah, hey, what can I do? I gotta
give Hims flowers. He's the MVP. That's not what I
want to hear at all if I'm a fan. And
this is part of what happens why the NBA playoff
product is not what it should be. And it's not
as simple as well, there should be less games, so
players wind up playing more and guys don't sit out
in the playoffs. It's just an overall playoff problem that
the sport is not at the level it should be

(07:12):
when it's honest, higatt stage it should be where everybody
is doing everything they can to either stay in games,
play in games, win games and nick pacers used to
be how every series was. Every series was blood on
the floor and hair on the walls, and if you escape,
you're like the final girl at the end of a
horror movie. Your arm is half hacked off and your
leg is bleeding and there's blood all in your eyes

(07:33):
and you don't know what's going on, and your boyfriend
is dead because he tried to save you and he
got a stake through the heart. Then he got his
arm chopped off, and he got his head get sliced open.
All these things. This is how you need to come
out of playoffs. This is what got everybody so involved
in the NBA and why we love the playoffs so much.
And it doesn't need to be physical, it just needs
to be a good product, and the playoffs right now

(07:56):
are not a great product. Think about this, the playoff
rounds we've had so far, how many can you look
back and say, wow, that was something right? Nick Sixers
was something right because you had calls. You at Embiid
and he was injured and he was mad, and the
Sixers were mad about calls. And Tyrese Maxey has taken
every bleep and shot he can and he's scoring forty
five points and in threes from thirty five feet out

(08:16):
because he's desperate. Look, there's only a couple of series
and it's only coincidence I'm saying the next for both
of them. But there's only a couple of series where
you go, wow, that really was fun. Like look looking
at this series right now with with the Celtics and
the Cavaliers, can you say that was fun? As as
close as Denver and and Minnesota seems, is it really fun?

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Is it really close?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Especially after last night when it feels like Minnesota just said, hey,
we're done. Yeah, y'all, getch is the MVP? What are
we gonna do? It's not much we can do. Well,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Like Edwards got everybody's praise earlier in the round, right,
talking about you know, it's my fault energy taking responsibility
for not rising to the challenge in that game three,
And then last night I was got like, ah, well,
you know he was in his bag.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
We're kind of cooked.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
We're young and inexperienced and we can't possibly match that,
never mind the defensive Player of the Year and all
the other flowers that people have been throwing at you
the whole time.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
You know, it goes back.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
To what we've talked about a lot towards the end
of the regular season, where every game you're praying that
you don't add another name to your injury report or
that had short lived and that you can chalk it
up to load management, right versus we get into the
playoffs and we've chronicled it every step of the way.
This guy's hurt, that guy's hurt. The Donovan Mitchell thing

(09:35):
is confusing as hell. Right as you said, he scores
thirty five, he looks, you know, they come up huge
and then no, he's done. So tonight they made you
sweat and you know, once again they got their backers.
They lose by fifteen. If you bet at late the
spread had gone out to fifteen and a half. So
if you waited because you had a much better line

(09:58):
this morning before, everybody got ruled out.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
But you just go on on and down the line.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
It's the there's no incentive for you to play if
you're getting cooked early in a series or even midway through. Right,
all right, we're down thirty. The hell with it? Bench it,
save it for next time. You understand it from a
strategical standpoint, but from a viewing experience and compelling television.

(10:24):
I mean again, unless you've bet it, you ain't watching it.
And I guarantee you ninety percent of the people that
bet it, they don't watch it anyway. They just wait
for the final score to pass on their phone while
they're out pushing their kid on the swing or you know,
ripping one on the sixteenth green.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
I mean, that's it. That's where we're at in this.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
So it's tough, right, You're hoping for compelling product, but
injuries and just the length of things, you know, live
for another day is very.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Tough, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And here's the thing is that the Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carbon, like the reason the NBA is in
this issue, it's not selling It's not as simple as
all the stars are sitting out games, right. It goes
further than that, because no sport of all the major
sports has outgrown its rules and norms more than the

(11:14):
NBA has. Right, what we've seen in Major League baseball.
You can watch a Major League Baseball game from like
nineteen ten and it still kind of looks the same
here that does in twenty twenty four. You would recognize
it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Right, But overall this for obvious differences.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
But yeah, well, but you would recognize a major league game.
And look what happens with Major League baseball does Okay,
what do we need to do. We realize putting more
teams in the playoffs and keeping things going, that's what
that's what's going to help, all right, But major League
Baseball hasn't really changed that much. NFL, yes, does it change, Yes,
But everybody's getting richer, players are getting more money. It's happening. Yes,

(11:51):
they're adding a game, they've added the seventeenth game. But
by and large, the NFL has not outgrown itself, whereas
the NBA with the players, and it's part of the
players getting bigger and stronger and playing more basketball when
they're younger and coming into the league and being asked
to play some kind of crazy schedule. You are seeing
them the the the overall level of strength and speed

(12:14):
has outgrown an eighty two game schedule with back to
backs and tournaments in the middle of the season and
everything they have going on. Right now, the NBA needs
some changes where they need a real forward thinking visionary
who can say, all right, these are the issues that
are that are affecting the NBA right now. Our ratings
are our ratings are out of stagnancy, and and players

(12:37):
are missing games. Maybe we're playing too much. Whatever it is,
there needs to be like a full body review to
say to say we got to change stuff, because how
much longer can can you can you sit here and
go by this and say, yeah, NBA rings gonna be
the same. If you're not going up or you're not
fighting a way to get up and reach more people
and have your product growing, you're you're dying and you're
you're you're going backwards. And this is why the NFL
has taken over on Christmas Day, and they'll take over

(12:59):
more days too. It's but for right now, you focus
on the situation.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
The NBA. They have a playoff problem with making some
kind of product out there that people can't wait to
see every single night, and it's compelling, and it's incredible,
and and even if it's a blowout, it's something you
really want to talk about the next day. They really
have an issue with that, and there's only a couple
of series so far that's been able to do it.

(13:24):
And that's been a trend over the last couple of years. Mike,
I don't see it reversing.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
No, No, that's where we're at. I mean, you know,
we always joke to you know, we talk about the
size of the rink for the NHL versus you know,
the Olympic size. Should the skaters get a little more
room to work with? Maybe for the NBA we start
looking at the dimensions. I know, you don't want to
lose those Nicks on the baseline right next to the action,

(13:49):
but maybe it's time that we start moving.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
The floor a little bit.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
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Right now, Mavericks on top of the thunder four minutes
ago before halftime, big run by Dallas to open the
second quarter, twenty one to eleven run. They read it
lead at forty five thirty three. Luca's got twelve. Meanwhile

(16:29):
for Oklahoma City Boy Shake Gildas Alexander just six points
on three of eight shooting, and your Guy by Carmen
Chet has seven points. He's minus eight for the game
so far. Your guy, what name Chet? Your guy Chet.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Check minus eight, struggle lou Georgs minus thirteen.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
I mean, it's it's really a tough, bad.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Night for you man, bad night for the guys you.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
It's really not working out quite so well. And I
mean in PJ.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Washington, who's been a star, right, We've hyped him a
bunch for what the Mavericks have done since he came.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Over in trade.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
He's played twelve minutes, he's got four boards, three assists,
but he hasn't scored yet.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I mean, I guess what.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Do I is this where I start promoting how great
the plus minus stat is?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
He plus eleven?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Man, that's great, all right, we do well when I'm
on the court. Hey, look at me. You know, honestly,
no joke. If I played professional sports, that would be
probably my best category. I would be a plus player.
There's no way I'd be a minus player. Whatever. If
I played hockey, if I played back, I would be
a plus player. They would say, but you know the guy,
he makes some threes now and he does this. Boy,

(17:33):
look at his plus minus. Man, it's outstand We just
we just played better when he's on the floor. Now,
I'd be a plus player. I like that what you're
all about?

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah, plus player?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
You know, you just try to make people better. That's
that's what you try to do.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I mean, look, in hockey, i'd be a superstar
with a great plus minus. But like in basketball, i'd
be I'd make some threes now and again, boy, i'd
have a great plus minus. That would be me.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Well, it's all about you know, having some variety and uh,
a wealth of knowledge and skills that you could spend around.
It's like, you know that that Jeopardy spin off, that
that pop culture thing that they announced for prime video.
I mean I could star on that, I can host that,
I can dominate that.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
South Hampshire. No again, it's not it's a state in
the United States. Okay, we'll have more from the NBA
coming up in a few minutes. But today was a
huge day of the NFL. Right, you're you're like me
and everybody. Look, not everybody is like me, but you're
like us.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
I got pieces here with different notes about this. Let
me take a look at where my team is playing.
The NFL schedule releases out, and there's so many things
to get to. You're looking at your team, you're looking
at the team's playing national television, you're looking at who's
playing overseas. But there was a topic that superseded all
of that today and this was everybody sort of finally realized, oh, hey,

(18:51):
if I want to see all the NFL games this year,
I got to spend at least eight hundred and fifty
bucks because the games are spread about so much on
streaming services that if you want to get all the games,
because look, we mentioned a few minutes ago. Netflix gets
a couple of games on Christmas Day, they paid one
hundred and fifty million dollars for Peacock's got games. You

(19:13):
will have to pay at least eight hundred and fifty
bucks because you gotta buy Sunday Ticket, YouTube TV, ESPN
plus Prime, Netflix, Peacock, Right, and I trust all the numbers.
Everybody seemed to come up with the fact that it
was a numbers all about just a little bit under
one thousand dollars, so between eight hundred and fifty and
nine hundred dollars if you want to see every single game.

(19:36):
And already I knew this is gonna be met with
so much hate, right already, I knew it.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Said I can't have all the and I get it.
But I knew right away as soon as I saw this,
I said, oh man, this is not gonna be This
is not gonna be fun for the NFL. All they're
gonna hear is I can't pay for all that.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I don't even know where alf.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
These things are. And I understand. I get the hate.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
I get the hate.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I get the hate because you shouldn't have to pay
all this money to watch NFL games. I get the
hate because it's difficult. All right, I gotta go here.
I gotta buy all of these things and keep it straight.
It's a lot of streaming. But here's the thing, and
this is where sometimes you just have to understand reality.
This is the way the world is going, both in
the NFL and in other sports. I get you don't

(20:18):
like it, but this is the future. And eventually the
NFL is going to be full streaming at some point
when they figure it all out, all sports are gonna
be full streaming. Yes, the complaints are big, and I understand,
but you gotta get used to it because this is
gonna be the norm that with all of these entities
wanting to pay so much money for just a few games.
Of course, the NFL saying, oh we can give you

(20:40):
get your game here for seventy five million. We'll give
you a game here for another seventy five million. We'll
play on Tuesday because it's Christmas, because we can do
it and we can sell the game. This is just
the way it's going. I get that, Oh, well, why
can't we go back to the way it What I get,
but we don't go back to.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Anyway the way things used to be.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Like, I know, we're not going back to the way
things were on television. This is the new model. This
is why network television is going by the wayside. People
don't watch shows anymore, why nobody watches local news. This
is just the way things are evolving, and sports is
evolving more towards streaming. And eventually, what's gonna happen. Somebody
huge is or Amazon's gonna say, you know what, we

(21:17):
want the entire AFC package. Wait what, Yes, we want
the entire AFC package. Well, it's gonna be give us
a number. All right, Well it's gonna be. Well we
want we want like twenty billion. Do here you go?
Wait really, yep, there you go, right here, twenty do
I got the check writer he is, Now you want
twenty five billion, I'll give you that. Eventually, That's what's
gonna happen in the NFL is going to do it
because this is the way we're going with television. Streaming

(21:41):
is becoming more and more popular. It's not like it's
a dying institute or hey, we're buying something for relevancy.
More and more shows you're watching are on streaming. I
can't tell you the last network television show I watched.
I don't even know that I could tell you the
last show that's direct, that's only on cable that I've watched.
All the shows I watch are stream now. Do I
have all the streaming services? No, so I missed some

(22:03):
of them, and I'm okay with that. But generally think
about viewing habits and where they're going. I get that
there's a big shock about this and you got to
spend a lot of money, but it's unfor but I'm
My biggest thing I can say is get right with it.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
This is the new norm, and this is the way
sports are going to go, especially the NFL.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
All the boys upstairs want to see how much you'll
pay for what you used to get for free. Tom
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(22:40):
your Spotify or wherever you listen to music. Because really
kind of a damning thing. He kind of was railing about, you.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Know, the change in.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Radio for you know, your pop artists and whatever, but
more or less just you know, the change in the
economic structures of it all.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
And that's the reality.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
You know, as you lay it out, you know the
old saying, as we get to the Kevin Durant you
don't like it, don't watch, and there's got to be
some breaking point, and you're trying to figure out where
that line is in the sand, where it's gone too far.
You know, there's always the potential that you start going
into verticals of you know, city packages or you know,

(23:25):
how much will it cost? You just get to your team,
which is something long long ago as part of the
initial MLB entry into this stuff. Man as slow as
they normally are, they were first in terms of allowing
you to watch and listen to your home broadcasts early.
But now you just start getting into well, what's it.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Worth for you?

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Right the three point fifty and you've got to be
a YouTube TV subscriber. You know, there's only eight million.
I was starting to do all sorts of numbers as
to subscribers. Right when we get into Netflix, you're looking
at two hundred and seventy million subscribers worldwide. Amazon Prime.
You know, those are the two entities that are most
likely to say, you know, we've got mountains of cash.

(24:09):
You know, what's it going to cost for the you know,
one of the conferences. But Amazon Prime there's two hundred
and thirty million worldwide. You start going. Only forty percent
of people say they still subscribe to cable. But what
does that mean in this day and age when you
you know, compartmentalize it. I watch a couple of network shows,
but they're also available on the streamers immediately after.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Right, dude, you watch matt Lock reruns, that doesn't count.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
That's not don't no, no no, But like like the
Law and Orders, well they show up on Peacock immediately thereafter.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
At one point, my older daughter and I we were
watching Grays together.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
She quit on me. But that that is available, you know,
through the Disney Plus. Done.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I'm a teenager and I'm done that out now.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Well nough, like she started going down the rabbit hole
where all she watches his competition shows and not the
cool ones like cookoffs and stuff.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
So I'm out.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
I don't need to see Boston fifty years.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Okay, I'm done with that.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
That game. I'm finished now. Look now, I do have
a silver lining, right, it's not because I get people
being upset. But here's a silver lining. This is not
what the NFL wants to do ultimately with its product.
It does not want to give a couple of games
here to Peacock and a handful of games here to Netflix,
and a couple of games to Prime and a couple
of games to YouTube. They don't want to do it.

(25:25):
They're doing it now because there are a lot of
entities that are starting to become big time. They're starting
to become part of the mainstream. So hey, we want
these games. Hey we're okay spinning off a couple of
games here and there because the NBA it is a
bit of a gamble, because you get to the point
where for the NFL it is a bit of a gamble,
because you get to the point where fans may say,
you know what, maybe I don't need to see every game,

(25:47):
so I don't need to see every game, and then
some of the entities that buy it, whether whether it's
Prime or Netflix or whatever the game is, hey boy,
we didn't really get great numbers for that game.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
And you'll know the truth when.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
They don't report the numbers, right, if the number are
great and everybody is watching, Oh look at this we
had more people watching it here. But but then they
don't report the numbers, and you hear the well, generally
we don't report numbers. You know that not many, not
enough people watch, and it was a bad investment for them.
The NFL knows it's a risk. They know it's a risk. Say,
we're spinning this off and we're asking a lot of
consumers to spend a lot of money on this, especially

(26:18):
when it's in all different places. So here's a silver lining.
What the NFL is doing now, and I'll take it
behind The strategy is saying, Okay, we know streaming is
the future. What they want at some point is to
understand they want great partners and is the NFL at
the point now where they can say that, hey, Amazon
is the best partner they could possibly have. Maybe do

(26:39):
they know that Peacock is probably not. They're gonna find
out about Netflix. They're gonna find out about you know
how good is YouTube TV for everything? Because everybody is happy,
But the NFL needs to find out now because there's
so many people that want the product. So the NFL
is has given these games out and they're gonna spend
time the next couple of years gauging how these entities

(27:00):
do with games, and they're gonna see, hey, this is
the streaming site where our product does the best. These
are the people we can trust the best. This is
who we're going to enter into negotiations with for the
AFC package or the NFC package or Monday Night package,
whatever it is. So eventually it's going to streamline a bit.

(27:21):
You're not gonna get Hey, these games are on five
different or six different entities, You're gonna get two or three,
like Nord because that's like everything else, it's gonna consolidate, right,
I mean, we keep reading about all the land grabs
and you know, get if you're visiting southern California, get
all your studio tours in from the old movie lots,
because they're gonna consolidate and sell off those land land

(27:42):
pieces for housing soon enough. I mean we see it
all the time. Yeah, they're going to they're gonna take
a couple of years and they're gonna take a look
at the business models and what's happening and who's got
staying power and who doesn't, and then they'll enter into
long term deal and numbers are gonna be staggering. Whatever.
Netflix winds up paying for the NFL or whatever, Amazon winds.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Up paying for the NFL. If I if I.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Had to guess, I would say Netflix and Amazon will
be the two big homes of the NFL just because
they're the biggest and I know they're not in danger
of going anywhere. So the other streamers are going to
try to figure out a way to make money and
stay relevant. There's gonna be some merging of some of
the streamers over the next couple of years, So that
would be my guess. I mean, but that's just me
looking at business and trying to, you know, push it forward.

(28:26):
But the NFL doesn't want to do this. I don't
think for a second they really like this. They know
this is a way for us to make a lot
of money right now and really see where our next
partners is going to be. They've been partners with Fox
since the mid nineties. Fox jumped out of nowhere and
spent all kinds of money to get the NFL, and
they've had it forever, right see.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
The Simpsons, and it was The Simpsons and Married with Children. Yeah,
and nine O two and zero.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Was just starting right, It's like, oh wow, look at
this didn't even get to the Dylan Kelly Brenda triangle
yet when this is happening. So so this is this
is just how the NFL is going. They they're taking
their time right now to see who's gonna wind up
being our long term partner.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
So we try it out a little bit here. Again.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
They know the risk because they're asking a lot of
fans to say, this is what we're doing for all
our product and and they risk fans saying, hey, maybe
I don't need to see all these games. They don't
need to buy Peacock. I don't care because what I'll
do instead is, hey, one of my friends has Peacock,
I'll go over his house to watch the game. What
does that mean, Well, that's one less house that watches
the game. Before you think that's not a big deal,
it is. Because now everybody stays home, right, everybody stays home.

(29:31):
They stay home. Nobody goes to movies as much as
they used to. They stay home and watch television. We
all we all stay home and watch TV. So so
if one out of every four NFL fans is saying, hey,
I'm not buying Peacock, I'm gonna go over jump and
knucklehead Billy's house to watch the game. Okay, that's one
less house, you know what, doing the game? All right,
I got two things for you.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
One, I'm gonna put this in terms you'll really understand,
and America may weep.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
The latter being maybe the NFL actually saves America.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
This way, people have to get out of their own
homes and actually congregate somewhere. Now we have pot lucks
to watch games, where we talk about problems, We watch
each other's kids, We make sure they're doing their homework.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
I mean all of that stuff. Maybe the NFL and
Roger Goodell save society.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
The other part, you know, talking about you know, paying
paying for what you used to get for free. You know,
we were having this discussion the other day. You know.
McDonald's is phasing out the self serve on the sodas
by twenty thirty two.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
No more free refills.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Jason, you had a good run. Oh you know what
I'll do. I'll just bring my own soda right own.
So that's fine, no free re I'm bringing my own soda.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
That's fine. Yeah, you really think that there's gonna be
a corkage fee too?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Can tell you. I really think that's gonna work. You
really think that's gonna work. No free refills in twenty
thirty two. Really, that's not gonna work.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Okay, yeah, Well, individual operators will have the opportunity to
decide whether they're free or not. But you know they
have to absorb the costs, much like these five dollars meals.
They're trying to make them sell when you know they've
added ancillary cost after ancillary costs, particular in California.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Good luck making sorrybody, good luck making that stick. They
have a better luck me trying to get to go
see Oh I gotta see the Jets and the packers man,
I gotta find a way rather than say, oh I
can't go here, I can't get a free soda here.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Well, I'll get a free refills over here.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Well, most Jets games are free.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
And look at McDonald's leads. Other people follow suit man
telling you.

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(31:46):
best friend Mike Carmon coming up next. The NFL has
come after Christmas and is taking it over. We got that,
plus the holiday. The NFL is never going to touch
never What's that's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.
Slap of the Base Early in the third quarter, Dallas
leeds Oklahoma City fifty eight forty nine, Mavericks on the road,
looking to take a three to two lead over the Thunder.
Continue to update you on this game earlier tonight. Celtics
win their series. They're in the Eastern Conference Finals, knocking
out the Cavaliers. But today was NFL's schedule lease day.

(32:35):
One of the big headlines, of course, was Hey, two
NFL games on Netflix on Christmas Day. And they're pretty
good games, especially you're talking about the Chiefs and the
Steelers and the Ravens and the Texans, right you got CJ. Stroud,
you have Lamar Jackson, you have whether Pittsburgh is at
that point playing justin fields, which they probably will be.

(32:57):
And then you have Mahomes and potentially Taylor Swift on
Christmas Day and for all of this surprise, Oh, the NBA,
I can't believe this. Of course this is happening. The
NBA television ratings on Christmas Day aren't great, right, well,
last year, the across games it was two point eight
million people. The highest game was was Lakers Celtics, which

(33:18):
five million people watch. The NFL doubles that, right, Like,
so of course they're coming for Christmas Day. The NBA
used to own Christmas Day. It was great. But now
we talked about the playoff problem that the NBA has,
the product problem that the NBA has. Ratings aren't going up.
They're kind of being staggered. Now the NFL it's said, okay,
it's our time. Now we can come for Christmas Day.

(33:39):
And they're here and they're not going anywhere. I mean here,
we're getting games that they'll play Christmas Day games every
year now for the rest of time, because you can
do it at the end of the season. Because they
play on Saturdays, doesn't matter, whatever day, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Fright,
You're gonna get games on Christmas Day no matter what.
And the NBA is just gonna have to suck it

(34:00):
up and realize, Hey, we had it great for a
long time, and but now the NFL is here feeling
their power because every year we're just going to continue
to feel out and push and push and push. Yeah,
this was always going to happen.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, gentlemen's agreement to a point. And then what are
you doing? You're trying to figure out how to keep
growing the pie. Where's an obvious giant slice of people
sitting around on their asses after eating.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Giant slices of pie Christmas.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Giant slices of pie. Uh But you know, I'll tell
you this the one holiday. Now, it's like, what was
the NFL not to the one holiday? The NFL will
never come forward. It's not really a holiday, but they're
still never going to do it. They will never play
unless it falls on a day in which they have to,
which is Sunday, Monday, or Thursday. They will never play

(34:50):
on Halloween. Halloween's nothing day. And it's appropriate. They got
the clowns that are the Jets this year. They will
unless it's unless it's hey, unless it's a well we
normally play on this day. You know they're not going
to touch Halloween because A it's a horrible optic when
when kids are when it's a day you're supposed to
be with your kids, it's a family day, and people

(35:12):
are out of the house. It doesn't matter what kind
of NFL game you have on. If your kid wants
to go trick or treating, your dad says, dad, take
me trick or treating, and guess what Dad's going trick
or treat.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Yeah. In most communities though, I mean that that's kind
of waned a bit.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Now you have more school led activities and a bunch
of just people being menaces out there.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Kids. No, well, number one, they're not going to get
the numbers because let no.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Matter always get the numbers. That what they won't go
after Halloweens.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
They're not going to go after we get the numbers,
no matter what. Halloween numbers when they have games are
just okay. Halloween numbers, the numbers are okay. Well, it
depends if Zach Wilson is playing quarterback or Aaron Rodgers.
But no, but Halloween is they play when they have to,
and they have games on there.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
The numbers are okay.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
They're never going to go crazy and say, hey, we're
gonna sell games here on Halloween, because you don't get
that much because it because it is Halloween.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
No matter what people are out.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Look, the college football tried to make New Year's Eve
happen for play. This are the two biggest games of
the college football season. We're doing on New Year's Eve.
It's tradition. After one year, it's oh wait, even though
college football games are on, people go out and do things. Oh,
we're never doing that again. It's the same philosophy for Halloween. Well,
I mean, Halloween is far far less of it. I mean,

(36:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I've never been a guy that's been sprinting around to
bars that seems, you know, on Halloween, dressed up like
a clown and while getting out getting after it on
those days. I suppose those are the folks that aren't
gonna sit and watch anyway in a lot of cases,
because otherwise you just have one of those house.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Parties we talked about and save society.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
But now more and more schools have the first off,
So the opportunity certainly there.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I'm telling you, man, it's gonna be really, really difficulty.
They will wind up hurting themselves and being and having
a bad optic outside of that too, And the NFL
is not gonna do it. Trust me, they won't go.
They haven't yet. Why wouldn't they have gone after Halloween already? What,
there's no other competition on Halloween. They have to worry
about the NBA. Theyoku have Halloween all themselves. Nope, I'm

(37:21):
not gonna go after Halloween.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
You have to recognize it as a holiday.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Not gonna Uh. Now, All State is a different story
of All Saints State different November first. Yeah, okay, we'll
go after November first, when that becomes a thing. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
The Chase and Smith Show and Mike Harvin live from
the tyraq dot com studios. We have more from the
NBA coming up next, as well as big news from
the NFL. As far as how I know, one big
quarterback is gonna be healthy all season long.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
This is Fox.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my bas
friend Mike Harmon, live from the ti iraq dot com studios.
Right now, nine's thirty to go in the fourth quarter,
Dallas's lead over Oklahoma City has extended out eighteen seventy one. Again,
still a lot of time left, but boy, Oklahoma City
looking at going down three to two, having to go

(38:16):
back to Dallas to keep this series alive.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Well, and look how fluidly Luca's moving today.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Wow, Luca looks good. Yeah, as long as they're winning,
Luca looks good. The minute they start losing, Lucas starts limping.
Oh now, oh.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Maybe Luca, that's why they're losing. Luca is limping.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Just watch. But today was a momentous day at the NFL,
as it always is. NFL schedule release day. No one
better chop it up with but a man joining us
on the hotline right now, longtime NFL insider. He is
a Hall of very good voter. He has some very
good opinions about what he saw today. He is on
Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. It is Jason Cole,

(38:55):
Jake call what's happening man?

Speaker 6 (39:01):
I had a Hall of Fame opinion. The Hall of
Fame opinions, that's what I have.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Okay, all right, so Hall of Fame opinions like uh
putting out uh Food Fighters lyrics on on Twitter today,
like you did.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Yeah, that's cool. What's tale about the food Fighters?

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Hell?

Speaker 6 (39:20):
What was that? What was that cover? And I'm what
was the cover you guys were playing for the tire
Rex video thing? What was that?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
That was royal Otis Linger by Richard by the Cranberries.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
Yeah, well I know I know Linger by the Cranberry is.
You know, I know Dolorous. Well, I know who Dolorous are.
Weird was Yeah, royal Otis That's that was? That was
that was interesting. I'll just say that.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, it's remember remember Amus Otis are the Royals. He
does the song that's.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
Otis Wilson.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Wilson super Bowl Champion.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
But let's see you off here. I have a new game.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
I have a game. Okay, what week do the Jets
get eliminated?

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Let's go through the schedule.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Let's say a championship game, maybe.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Week nine. I'm taking you know, we week nine. It's
like it's like a perfect game pool where they picked
the inning where you lose the perfect of the no
hitters kind of a pool. So let's you know, starting
like week starting week nine and work your way forward
kind of thing. And so I'm going Week eleven, A

(40:46):
week eleven. Something about your opinion. You don't have all
of opinion.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
You have very good opinions.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
I have all there. Don't care. Don't care your pigeons,
I don't care. I just don't care. You can say
them during your time, not during my time. During my time.
We talk about my time. Okay, we're having some food.
That's what we're doing right here. Okay, and we're talking
about the Jets and when they're gonna get eliminated. We'll
talk about the first five weeks. Schedule, no favors you

(41:20):
short week right off the bat, you know, opening San Francisco,
go to go to Tennessee, and then after you have
two road games within seven days. Let's go ahead and
play a Thursday night game. That's classic. Okay, what's what's
the week five game? I'm trying to think of what's
Week five.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
At Minnesota that Tottenham starting at Let's go in a
five weeks stretch.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
Let's go from San Francisco Europe. This is gonna be great.
These guys are gonna just be so worn out, it's
gonna be ridiculous. Yeah, look, we'll pay. I'm rowing Week eleven,
Week eleven, easy, Easy, Week eleven. You know, the only

(42:06):
thing that you're going to be looking forward to is
more Aaron Rodgers on Tucker Carlson. That's what you're going
to be expecting for the second half of the season. Oh,
what's airing them to say? On Tucker? Is he going
to break the news about whether he's coming back or
is he going to do that on the McAfee show.
Which one is he going to do that on? That's
what I want to know.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
I just I just want to tell Aaron you don't
have to do every interview. That's all I want to say.
If I could tell him one, dude, you don't.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
Know every interview. You want to say, please stop doing interviews.
Pease stop talking.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Somebody asked Aaron a football question.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Please please ask.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Him a football question.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Ask him about inflating or deflating the football, whatever, anything,
anything but this.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
Say the word football. Please say the word Please.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Get them to defend Hackett for fifteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Do something.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
The Jets are going to be fine because I'm going
to use the transitive property that I've explained to Mike Harmon.
The Jets are on national TV, big games, going too
much in the first ten weeks right, the NFL would
be screwed. If Aaron Rodgers thinks or he gets hurt,
NFL will be screwed. The NFL doesn't get screwed. Hence
Aaron Rodgers will be fine. I feel pretty good.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
The Jets of stunk since name and then nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Nobody we haven't stuck. We have but to back to
back AFC title games.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Twelve s Chez Baby haven't been playoff since the Jets.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
The Jets can go one in sixteen. Nobody will care, and.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
You sure they will.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Goodbye, dude, Just to stop because I know you're lying,
because I know how invested you are in the Aaron
Rodgers storyline that we all got robbed of last year.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Because it's an storyline.

Speaker 6 (43:50):
I will always say. Look, I love watching Aaron Rodgers
for football. I love watching himployee quarterback. So to that extent, yes,
I am lying, but I am laughing about the fact
that he does interviews on Tucker Carlson. Like when I
see that pop up on Twitter, I go oh.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
I say, oh no, not again, and I cringe when
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
When I saw that on on Twitter. When I see
because people put it in my timeline. I see Tucker
Carlson's face going, Okay, here's what we have tonight, and
he moves the phone and rogers there with a cup
of coffee. I just go, oh, great, uh great.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
Great, A right has yesterday?

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Hey, I got a question for you.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
We talked about it a little bit before, Jason Cole
Do in your in maybe a minute's time. Make the
Giants compelling for an off season hard knocks?

Speaker 6 (44:48):
Wow, nothing, nothing is as electric as Brian Dable. Yeah,
And I like Brian. Brian's actually a good guy. You know,
He's he's easy to talk to. Like he's lost his
mind a little bit in the last last year or
so for reasons. But but Gable's a good guy. And

(45:09):
that's all I got for you.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Wait, what do you mean he's lost his mind?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Like what like Like he's because he's still believes in
Daniel Jones.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Well partly because he believes in Daniel Jones, which I
mean he was sort of forced to right like they
were they were betwixt in between. Okay, but it was
all the sideling antics last year. That's such a that's
such a double check assistant move. To do that is

(45:40):
to you know, do something to prove that you're actually
a great coach and that you know, like you have
to go into some kind of historyonics and it's like, dude,
just coach, Like you have a good resume. People. You
worked with Jalen Hurt, you made him better. You worked
with two, he made him better. You went up and

(46:01):
you did some great work with Josh Allen. Okay, you
finally ran into a quarterback you just can't fix. Sorry,
you know, like you're just not magic. Okay, you have
to go in and be logical, to go to the
team and say we can't do this and say these
are the reasons why this is not going to work

(46:21):
instead of pretending like that there's something magical about you.
If you just start yelling and screaming and stomping your
feet and snarling at people, like your right tackle is
not getting any better. He was terrible last year, Like
there's no reason to yell at him. He's just awful
and just you know, move on from it. That's and

(46:42):
he went into that sort of nut Sell routine and
like that just doesn't work. Like that's that's you know,
like you're better off just being Belichick and got we
weren't good enough. We weren't good enough. You just do
that and people will respect that.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Of Jason. Call our guest the Jason Smith Show with.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
What do you want to watch? With the giants? What?
What do you think you want to watch?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
With nothing? I'd rather watch the sunset?

Speaker 4 (47:09):
What are we going to do? Giants?

Speaker 6 (47:10):
Wait a second, Actually we missed the best thing that
was announced. Forget the schedule, forget you know the things.
You know when the Jets are going to get eliminated
from playoffs with ten, maybe.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
We've moved it up to ten.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
I know it's it's limb. It's limbo that.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Would be eliminate them in their bye week, I think,
or just just ahead of their bye week.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
I'm just in love with sky Dance doing the story
of Jerry Joes. That's the one I'm like you and
I like John Weinbach is great. I really I love
John Weinbach. It's that sky Dance. But boy, this is
going to take some editing, pal because most of Jerry's

(47:56):
not suitable for for uh, for your rich.

Speaker 7 (48:01):
When I sat down with the cruise fella and I said,
here there, listen, eighty eight percent of my life.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Is off limits, all right.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
So let's consentraut the twelve percent of my life we
could use.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Just focus on the stuff that's good for the little kids.
Well that that only be a five minute shows, sir.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
What's start when I bought the catalog and we won
the Super Bowl, and let's fast forward to now?

Speaker 6 (48:27):
Is he which which character from some kind of silly
movie or cartoon disease? Is he Foghorn Leghorn? Or is
he something like Youford Tusser? Is he is he from
what were those Burt Reynolds movies when when they went off? Yeah, Campbell?

(48:49):
Is he like a character from any of those? Or
is he just so unique? Because I kept thinking about
the voice, and the voice is sort of closer to
Foghorn Leghorn, Yeah, but I.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Little Charles Journing esque.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Now now you know, you know he's close to I
think he's close to Grew. I think that's what he
is in the Minions movie Grew.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
No, No, he's Grew with fog Horn leg Horn. Okay,
the two of them combined.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
That's a mash up. I would go see see Steven's
Kevin the Minion. Right here, in case you can't see
right here, this is this state.

Speaker 6 (49:24):
Hey keep Jared Jones, Jerry Jr. Away from the camp.
Hey Jared June Junior, can't be he's got that way. Yeah,
that's okay. Stevens come on, there we go. And Charlotte
Charler come on, come on, you're standing girl. That's what's
you're You're smart. You'll keep me from doing something stupid.

(49:45):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
NFL insider paula faith voter and advisor, on the Jerry
Jones ten part documentary. It is Jason could on Twitter
up to week nine. Yet there j Cole is always buddy,
thanks so much her talk to you about.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
There you go, the go