May 22, 2024 • 38 mins
Jason and Mike react to the Celtics taking Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals over the Pacers with former NBA star Ryan Hollins!
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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want to say mercifully, but I guess this was. As
much as we love the closest of this game, plant
it's over chaos.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, but every session got weird. You got Tatum hug
and Obi topping on, Freeman chaos going on. But you
know what, if you bet the pacers.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
You got your money. Hey, they got their back, got
your money.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You got to sit back and you were licking bills,
so it's a it's a good day for you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It is a final Game one in the Eastern Conference
Finals goes to the Celtics in overtime, one thirty three
to one twenty eight. It is a big time miracle
three by Jalen Brown that sent this game to overtime
and a shot that probably should not have taken place,
but we'll get to that in a second. Jason Tatum
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absolutely owns overtime for the Celtics. He hits a big three,
hits his free throws down the stretch. Yes, he does
ridiculously grab Obie Toppin during a free throw, so Toppin
gets two free throws, but the mistakes eventually offended because
the game is over. It's a fine ye thirty six
for Tatum. The Celtics take a one game to nothing
lead in the Eastern Conference Finals. This is the game
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the Celtics were up twelve to nothing. They watched those
Pacers bounce back to tie the game at halftime.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That a twelve point lead in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Pacers tied it going to the fourth quarter, and honestly,
the Pacers should have won this game. There were so
many mistakes and turnovers by both teams at the end
of the fourth quarter, in the last minute in overtime.
But the big one we're going to talk about has
to do with the fact of how this game gets
to overtime. The Celtics are down three with about ten
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seconds left to go, and the Pacers have a foul
to give.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
This is where I mean, I don't know, maybe maybe
there's an official Rick Carlisle can blame for Pacers not foul.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
He's gonna be upset about something in the postgame Pretz conference.
So the play here with ten seconds to go, Okay,
the Celtics need a three, right, you would just turn
the ball over on an inbounds play. You had the
ball and a three point lead with ten seconds left,
and Pascal Siakam, who had an incredibly good game, had
two of the worst plays that absolutely killed the Pacers.
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Siakam couldn't handle the inbounds pass. He winds up knocking
it out of bounds, so the Celtics have the ball.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Where he's also coming back to the ball. It was battling.
People were looking for a fall. It's like, no, it's
a battle, and it was terrible as it goes out
of balance.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It was. It was awful.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I don't know why at that point you're not looking
to throw the ball in down on the Celtics side.
They someone said, Okay, this is not happening here, let's
throw it down here. But no, the Celtics wind up
with the ball with about twelve seconds left to go
in the game and we get the double bang three
from Jalen Brown. Courtesy of Mike Breen. This is how
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it sounded and how we went to overtime when really
the Pacers should have just fouled, but the Celtics not
the line they're shooting to. The Pacers have the ball
with a one point lead, ten seconds left, they're likely
shooting free throws, but instead we wound up tied going
to over time. Look, Siakam had a great game right
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twenty four to twelve and seven, and he was the
difference in this game. Okay, he was the difference in
this game the last couple of times, last couple times
this year the Celtics played the Pacers. It was before
Siakam got traded, So he was the big X factor
coming into this game.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
We talked about it last night Hey, that's the one
thing I will tell you. Ay Boston gives away games. Siakam,
who's had an incredible first round against the second round
against the Knicks. They have not played with him, and
he brings a different skill set. And yes, you had
him against Toronto, so you're familiar with his game a
little because you played him a lot. But hear how
he fits in with this Pacers team. And twenty four
to twelve and seven, he had a great game. This
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was his game. And then you get the play at
the end of regulation where Siakam just kind of stands
in the corner and allows Jalen Brown to get the
three off. Now, is it a great three? Is it
a wide open three? No, it's a difficult three. It's
a difficult three. But when you talk about the strategy, say, hey,
when you foul, when you have a foul to give,
you want to you want to put a guy in
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the lot. When you foul, you foul, right, you foul?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You do that that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You can't just say, well, I want to do it.
But maybe it looks good because he doesn't have a
great look at the basket. That's not part of it.
It's it's it's it's if you're gonna foul, you foul
when you're up three and and the other team has
the ball. This is what you do when you put
the guy in the line and a game goes from there.
But when you have that going on, you can't just
decide and go ah, I was okay with the look
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he got, I was okay. That's how that strategy breaks down.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Well because also as you watch his body language, because
Brown goes to the ground and you immediately see Siakam
puts his arms behind his hands like uh and bind
his back on nothing to see here.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I didn't hit him, really, I didn't hit him. And
the shot goes down.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It's like, no, you knock him into the fourth row
and put him on the line or have him take
the ball.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I mean, it made no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But Brown hits the big three and and and then
we get you know, the huge overtime period from Jason Tatum.
But Seaccum had played a great game overall, right, key
to many of their chargebacks to get back into this game.
And then that sequence down at the end again, you're there,
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You've got him covered up, and then you do everything
you can to sell Hey, I didn't follow him, because
if you want to go a letter of the law,
you probably should have had a four point play because
enough contact to maybe draw the.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Whistle, yes, but not enough runs.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
But then he puts him behind his back, like, yeah,
nothing to see here, referee, I didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
But but he goes to the ground, right, Brown goes
to the ground.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And usually you see a superstar call, right, especially at
home and in all these big kind of scenarios. So
you did enough maybe to create the foul call, but
not enough to do anything to disrupt the shot.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And then you want to get to overtime and you
talk about the the the unforced errors is that you know,
this is a game that that the Pacers once again
took the lead in overtime. Okay, it's it's it's getting
to be there, but we didn't see a lot of
scoring in the last couple of minutes. This was a
game the Pacers had the lead. Both teams were kind
of just kind of chugging towards the end a little bit,
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and you get an incredibly bad turnover from Tyrese Halliburton
after Tatum had made a free throw of the end
one to give the Celtics a one point lead, and
you're gonna see the whole oh dead spots on the floor,
the ghosts of of.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Boston Garden from years past, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But Halliburton just you know, with the Pacers with the
ball and then it left to go, just dribbled it
out of bounds like it didn't like you say dribble
off his foot as a phrase it's used, but then
you see that, but that's not what happened.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
He just lost the handle.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He just lost the handle trying to turn and the
ball goes over his left hand and goes out of bounds.
He tries to grab it and jump in the air
and call it up, he'd already stepped out of bounds.
That turned the ball over to the Celtics. And after
that turnover to Celtics, Jason Tatum makes that big three.
It's a four point game, and basically the game is
over at that point, like that's where the game was
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won and lost by the Pacers. And so you want
to put all of this in the hopper and mix
it up, make a big stew make a big like
Carl Weathers would say, in the rest of development, we're
just consenting adults making a stew like you put this
all in a big stew for the Pacers, and they're
gonna sit here and say, well, there are some foul calls.
It probably should have happened, because you know that's it.
Rick Carlisle is thinking, well, they.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Only shot ten free throws.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Look how three of them came on that yeah, contested
shot from how you know, the attempted block from behind
on Halliburton.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Otherwise they had two free throws through three quarters.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, look, and this is what I tell you when
I talk about the Knicks, right, when I talked about
the Knicks and the and the Sixers and games against
the Pacers, Hey, yes, are there calls that probably should
have been made? Yeah, but it there's nothing unbelievably outstanding
like we had with the Knicks and the Sixers and
the Knicks and the Pacers, None of those calls.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
But are there calls that could be made?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Are you going to see replays of stuff on social
media going, oh, how is this not called?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
No, you're gonna have always are right? Yah?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But when I can point to self made mistakes, self
inflicted wounds, and that's how you lose in big spots,
I don't care about that. I said the same thing
for the next Hey, were there a couple of calls
It should have been made in a couple of those
games where the referee advantage went to the Pacers or
went to the Sixers. Yeah, but I can count all
the bad Knicks mistakes and that's why they wind up
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losing that game. I'm not going to complain about the
officials at that point. It's the same thing with this game,
because when I can sit here and say, hey, yeah,
there's a couple of calls here in Rick Carlisle, I'm
sure is going to find a way to play.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
The small market teams.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
And now we're in Boston. It was New York and
balls in such a big city and no one knows
their way around, and it's so difficult because we're.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
A small market team.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
There's one road going in and out of Indianapolis, and
there's the bus station, and there's the airport.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You can't even fly direct from anywhere. You can't even
fly direct from Chicago. We're just a small outpost. Nobody
even comes here anymore.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
People only out because they want to take pictures at
the field us where Bobby Pluck made that shot, and
they shot hoosers. That's all we have here, And Caitlyn Clark,
I mean he's gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But I can sit here and say, Okay, I get it. Okay,
what referee made Tyre's Halliburton and dribble the ball out
of bounds? What referee? What referee didn't foul Jalen Brown
at the end of the fourth quarter, You had a
ten you had a three point lead with ten seconds
left to go, and the basketball and you lost. You
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better all of those things, right, but you bottom line
is you had a three point lead with ten seconds left,
and you had the basketball and you lost the game.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
That's all. That's all.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
If I see anything from Rick Carlisle tonight about that,
I mean, you will and the guy I'm just gonna laugh,
all right, I'm just gonna laugh because no one stopped
any of those things from happening.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
No one stopped any of those things.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You can look at the free throw differentially, go okay,
I hear you on that. But the Pacers still had three,
four to five chances to put this game away and
they didn't. And it's not like the Celtics were like, hey,
we're playing We're playing a plus basketball No, they gave
the ball back and gave the Pacers chance to give
it back like nobody wanted that game. But nothing's gonna
change that. Nothing's gonna change that. You turn it over
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on the inbounds. You didn't, You didn't foul Jalen Brown,
Halliburton lost the ball, all the bounds at the end,
none of that stopped that three point lead, ten seconds
left and the basketball and you lost.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You turned the ball over to either twenty one or
twenty two times, depending on what box score you're looking at.
That number may may go up, they may go up
upon review. Celtics turn it over fifteen. This is not
a clean game by anything.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It would the imagination.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I want people to know because this is what my again,
this is what Mike and I say. It doesn't need
to be art that you just needed to be close.
This was and exciting. Is this a game they're going
to put up in the Naysmith Museum and go, hey,
you want to see the best of NBA action Watch
the fourth end of the fourth.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Quarter Brown, that could go on a top shot. No, no,
you know it's in digital moment.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
That that's gonna go like on a on a coaches
clip reel for next year going in training camp and
they go, okay, so if we're up three and the
other team has the ball and we can foul, I
want to foul because look what happens when you don't
and you press the button and goes on a toe.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It shows a shot. It's an instructional video. Oh that's good.
No of this makes lot. No, there's a lot right.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
This is this is where we get the Hankas Area
character patches o'hulahan. We get him back and we do
a black and white video that it instruct you how
to play basketball.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Basketball is a sport about degradation and embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
It is true. It is true.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But I mean, you shot fifty three point five percent
from the field. If you're Indiana, you shot thirty seven
percent from three. Yeah, you didn't get to the free
throw line, so I'm sure there'll be some contentiousness there.
But you move the ball, well, you had thirty eight
assists on your fifty three. Makes all of those things
all positives. You turn the ball over twenty one times,
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including several huge several of which are obviously they're not forced.
Turnovers are just bad brain tree.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
All the officials. All the officials fault.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Then you saw a couple of times and Halliburton trying
to pass the official waves his handed away and knocks
it out of bou ball to the ball the Jedi
mind tricks, buddy, I mean, you know he's using the
force to take the ball out. About that big Pascal
Siakam turnover. You saw the official stick his hand in
there and knock it out.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
You know they had the ability to make the sidelines invisible.
You really don't know where you're dribbling, kind of like
when you're playing youth soccer and you're not quite sure
if the line is.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Straight or not.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
You take care of your best Guess did the ball
go fully out of bounds?
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You saw Tony Brothers take that huge charge on TJ
McConnell put the Celtics on the free throw line.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
You saw it happen, right, Come on, uh talk about
your favorite player right there.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
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the drama and what the Pacers have to be saying
to themselves after blowing this game. You let them off
the hook. You knew who they were coming up next?
What's the big Dog gonna have to say? Ryan Hollins,
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game one of the Western Conference Finals tomorrow.
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Yeah, Fox Sports Radio the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon. Celtics in overtime take advantage of
numerous Pacers mistakes in the final seconds of the fourth
quarter and overtime, they win Game one of the Eastern
Conference Finals one thirty three, one twenty eight. Let me
just say this, dear media members who were upset the
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Pacers weren't getting the coverage against the knixt Dear Indiana
Pacers who were upset they weren't getting more coverage. The
coverage is now all about you. Congratulations, good night and
good luck.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
It's your time. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Now it's all about all the stuff you didn't do
and all the mistakes you made.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Congratulations, man, you wanted it, You got it, man, you
got a good night and good luck. Are we gonna
go see it on Broadway? Good Night and good luck.
Clony Clooney's bringing it to the Great White Way. Are
we gonna go? Is he really? Oh yeah, that's gonna
be there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, he and Hessloff are producing if he's gonna leave
Lake Como And yeah, was getting and be on Broadway
a while. So time now to break it down. Nobody
better than to say hi to the big Dog.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Former NBA star, our teammate here at Fox Sports Radio
NBA analyst Houston Rockets analyst, probably wearing an outfit right now.
He spent no more than seven dollars to buy. It
is Ryan Hollins, big dog. What's happening, man?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
How are you? What's up to money?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (17:27):
My goodness, dude, because i'd be in a you know,
give a take it on it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I may have you, man, I may have me because
I got I got a I got a thrifteing T
shirt and sweatpants right now that I know.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Don't get me more than eight dollars. I'm already. I'm yeah,
I'm already. I'm starting out pretty well.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
What's that wallet? Though?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
He got nothing? He bought a sandwich on the way in.
He got nothing, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So Rick Carlyle just began his postgame press conference by
saying this loss is on me, is the law saw
him as a loss on the players?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
What'd you think of this?
Speaker 6 (18:04):
I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
I've been there before as a player, and you know,
normally you want to play those situations out. But maybe
Rick is just saying I didn't think about the turnovers
down the stretch. Maybe I should have kept Halliburton in
the middle of the floor. You think about not fouling
in that situation, say hey, hey, grab him, Hey grab him.
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Make sure once the ball is in you grab him.
And you know, I'm sure with Pascal, Pascal's probably thinking
there's no way he makes this shot. And as a player,
you like to be confident in your abilities. He took
his complete airspace away and he ends up hitting that shot.
And again I wasn't as firm a believer. And then
when I'm up three, you're gonna faul but I'm all
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in now.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Look I changed that. I'd rather have him at the
line for three if I gotta plant him.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Come on, man, well my rocket.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
This season end up losing to the Trailblazers not fouling
at the end of the game, and then against Oklahoma
City they were supposed to foul, they don't foul and
Jalen Williams, you know, ends up hitting a twenty five
foot three, you know, leaning into the basket. And these
guys are so good in today's NBA that you have
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to make sure they don't have a shot to score.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
So I'm all in, like I get it.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
And then now you know, you extend the game out,
but you don't allow these guys to tie the game up.
And I mean Pascal, if you look at the replay,
he's literally in Jalen Jalen Brown's jersey and he gets
the shot off and.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
They end up winning the game.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
But if I'm Indiana, I've got a strange confidence right now.
It's a resilient group. I don't think they know any different.
And if you're Boston man, you gotta be scared because
it took everything you had to end up beating them.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well, what if this is the game that ball normally
gives away and you gave it back, right, because.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
They always give away one at home?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You and I were talking about this on the Sunday Show. Right,
they're gonna give you an opportunity to come and take one.
What if this was their shot?
Speaker 9 (20:12):
No, you're you're You're right about that, and and and again.
You know we talked about it. When you see this
Boston Celtics teams, they're different. They're literally a completely different team.
They're teams that just end up firing up a bunch
of threes, or they end up looking like a team
that you want to just hand the NBA title to
right away. But when when I'm looking at Indiana, you know,
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they match up a little better. I think with the
addition to Pascal Siakam, obviously, right we rate about them,
but a guy who stood out to meet tonight is
Obi Topping. Obi topping game is a guy who just
makes them so much more athletic. Uh, they're able to
match up with with Tatum and Brown. Obviously, they still
have those small guards. They end up getting posted up
or you know, give something up. But man, you got
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a group that's believing right now. If I'm the pacer,
I feel very confident.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, here here's the thing. Let me look at it
from a different perspective. Because yes, they think the whole
world is waiting for the Celtics to collapse. We've seen
it so many times, but I look at it this way.
Siakam clearly was the difference maker. Tonight, regardless of the
two big mistakes he made, he couldn't handle the inbound pass.
He doesn't foil at the end of regulation. This was
the first time the Celtics had seen this version of
the Pacers. This is the first time they played siaka mean,
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you can figure things out Noah Guy's game from Toronto,
but this is the first time and they know. Okay,
so I expect a big adjustment in Game two, and
I expect I expect this to be a better Game
two for the Celtics, and expected because now, okay, we've
seen Game one, we know what we need to do.
This was the Pacers kind of taking us a little
bit by surprise, coming off the vapors from the last game,
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coming back twice in this one. I oddly feel good
about the Celtics going into Game two.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
Really, And you know, another big X factor for me
is Miles Turner. I don't think with prizingis missing or
if he comes back and he's half way that he's
going to be able to make enough of an impact.
But that's the guy the Celtics are kind of struggling
to match up with his ability to roll to pop
back for threes. He's active on the glass. He's the
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guy that I kind of look at even though they're small.
That's a difference, you know, obviously in Indiana side. So
if you're the Celtics, man, I think you got to
grit it out. I think their experience one out. You're
the Pacers, you say, hey, man, look at these mental mistakes.
Look how close this game was. And obviously hats off
to the Celtics, because you're right, they normally had that
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game that they give away. But I felt like the
Celtics kind of came out to you know, like they
were aware, like they had a respect for Indiana, which
makes me not feel as confident for the Celtics and
they just come out and they look uninterested in times.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, that's a strong, strong out of the gate, that
twelve twelve point lead, early twelve point lead in the third.
One of those games, though, Ryan, when we get to
an Eastern Conference final, we have thirty five turnovers in
this game, just some sloppy, sloppy playing.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
How do you lose sight of where the end line is?
You know on the sidelines.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Halliburton, multiple times we've seen him have trouble where he
loses perspective.
Speaker 9 (23:15):
There those are fouls that have been called all season long,
and in some instances all playoffs long, and at this moment,
the referees are like, dude, we're gonna.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Let you guys play.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
So for Halliburton, he's going to adjust to the physicality.
And I think the crazy thing about Indiana there's a
lot of first there's a lot of first time this far,
first time seeing this, and for them to have kind
of taken that first punch from the Celtics and bounce back,
I think they will adjust to the tempo and the
physicality that the playoffs starts to coming. Because I'm telling
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you one thing from playing in it, I was surprised.
I'm like, you can grab, like, you can shove on
rebounds and they don't call it.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
It's like really.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Like and then I'm like, you know, the biggest difference
is all those old guys, all those you know, ten
twelve year veterans. They're playing hard, they're in a stance,
they sprint back on defense, they're doing all the little things.
So I think Indiana is going to as I don't
think they should have been anywhere this close.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Ryan Hollins with us The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Carmon live from the tirec dot Com studios. All right, now,
the big elephant in the room. We saw the big discrepancy.
The Celtics went to the free throw line. Hang on,
we look it up eighty six more times tonight than
the Pacers did. The Pacers actually went to the free
throw line a negative amount of time tonight, if that's possible. Uh,
did you see a big discrepancy? Did you see a
(24:35):
big advantage for the Celtics foul wise or was this
just hey, they were more physical, they were getting the calls.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
Well, here, Indy gives up a lot of size with
nim Hart, Halli Burton in those guys. So you know,
when the big guards of the Celtics get downhill, they
have to foul them. They're grabbing and holding, and the
Pacers are out are pretty much a jump shooting team
outside of Mi Turner, you know when he's rolling to
the rim. So you know the way they play other
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than Pascal Siakam, you know, they really aren't going to
get a lot of fouls called. And that is the
advantage for the Celtics. They they have those huge guards.
So I'm not gonna make too much of a fuss
about the whistle. But again, I think Indiana goes back.
They watched the film and they're gonna see the physicality
that they're going to need to meet the Celtics for
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in this series.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
So they just put up a graphic the Holiday as
twenty eight, seven and eight. But while defending Haliburt and
Halibert a couple of turnovers and he's zerover five from
the field.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
He played forty eight minutes tonight.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
He's the Josh Hart of the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
So he's gonna get hitting the solar plexus problems. What
are we talking they do they change up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Do the Celtics see, hey, this is what worked, and
maybe there's a little bit more of Holiday on Halliburton
in game two.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Yeah, I think you can see that.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
And I think that is the challenge for the Selics
that a lot of times they're sub versatile. They're so
good that Missoula doesn't have to make too many changes.
You know, he'll come out with a standard his standard defense.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
You know, well, they just they'll.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
Just switch things up, play guy straight up. And I
think that's where a lot of the criticism, you know, ends,
up coming from So I don't see the Celtics making
too much of an adjustment. Obviously that was a good matchup.
But the tough thing is that there's not just one
guy who's gonna shut out Halliburton. And the reason I
say it, he's so dynamic. He plays a lot of
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pick and roll. So what you'll do if you got
Drew Holliday on him? Drew Holliday is going to be
chasing through screens. And what do the Celtics do. They
like to switch every opportunity that they can get. So
you'll just set a little brush screen and see if
Drew Halliday is going to switch or stay in coverage,
and you'll most likely have to switch. Why because they
hit threes at such a high rate, just as the Knicks.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Sorry, Jason, that's all.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Hey, look we finished We finished the game with one
and a half. Guys, It's okay. It's okay in games.
So they Jalen Brunson. That's how bad it got.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, he had the obligatory literal break at the end
of it all.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
Hey, hey, hey, hats off to your Knicks though, great year.
You should be happy, very unhappy.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Sure, he still he hates Rick Carlisle and everything he
stands for, just.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Like complaining, the complaining from Rick Carlo.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
All right, so hey, big dog, before I let you
go Western Conference Finals tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Give us your pick. Who's going to the NBA Finals?
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (27:26):
Who is going to the NBA Finals?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Man? I like I like Minnesota. I didn't.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
I didn't pick them against Denver, And I think it's
all in fairness to say. I don't think any of
us did. And to see Denver give up a twenty
point lead and get walked down at the house, I'm surprised.
And there's something about Minnesota right now. Man, it looks
like they're just believing, Like they just believe in what's
going on. I don't think they're great offensively, they're a
(27:54):
lead on the defensive end, and and just they're huge,
and I think they're one of the rare teams that
can go out and guard Luka Dantic. They can take
Dallas off the boards. This is gonna be completely opposite.
Oklahoma City gave up a lot of offensive rebounds, they
didn't have the size. But Minnesota is gonna be cleaning
glass and we'll see how they respond there. But again,
(28:15):
I think between Edwards McDaniels Conley. They can frustrate defensively
Luca and those boys, and that may be the big
factor in the series because you need both those guys
end up scoring big.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
You know me, I like when the older guys and
veteran players are getting their run. Like we talked about
Al Horford a bunch, you and I on the Sunday
Morning Show. Kyrie Irving getting a lot of love. You
mentioned Mike Conley there, the front line change up there.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
PJ.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Washington coming up big for Dallas time and time again.
How important is he to Dallas's chances here in this
next round?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
He's been huge.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
You know, Dallas has been screaming for a third option
for a very long time. I think we're all seeing
the world just welcome to PJ. Washington. He's made big plays.
They trust him down the stretch and a lot of
times with those great players. Remember from Kobe Bryant going, man,
I'd rather shoot this ball one on three than trust
any of my teammates.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
I'm gonna get the best look. And I said to say,
because PJ.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
Washington is getting the respect of Luca, he's getting the
respect of Kyrie, They're getting him the ball in big
moments and he's delivering, so obviously I think he's the
biggest value of the trademarket deadline hats off to the
front office over there in Dallas. They've done a Chico
and the boys have done a bang up job there.
So I think he's gonna have to play big and
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he's gonna have.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
To be that guy. You know.
Speaker 9 (29:43):
If he has a couple of those games he's in
the twenty plus point range, that just takes the press
off Kyrie and Luca.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
He's on Twitter at the Ryan Hollands that is, at
the Ryan Holland seven foot or Podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
He's got it all.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And if JJ Reddick becomes the next head coach of
the Lakers, let me know what gig you want. I'll
write to let a recommendation. Who do you want to
be the head coach for? If that can happen, that
can happen for you, man.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Boy, they make you shoot up as a broadcast, you
can wear sweats on the sideline.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Just add me to the Jason Smith Show.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
We're good, all right, see you.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Buddy, We'll see you Sunday, buddy. All right, there goes
Ryan Holland. Just add me to the show. I'm fine,
he just wants to be added, is yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Fox Uh Sports Sunday, He and I six to nine
Pacific breaking this all down as well.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live in the
tire rag dot Com Studios Coming up next. Rick Carlyle
absolutely pointed a finger of blame had something very specific
for why the Pacers lost this game with the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Was it the referees? Was it Halibert dribbling the ball
out of bounds?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Was it Pascal Siakam, was it the big market teams
getting calls? Or was it something else? You'll hear him
coming up next right here Jason.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
And Mike Fox. Was it him saying who stole Snowflake?
Who stole Snowflake?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (31:14):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Celtics take Game one of the Eastern
Conference Finals over the Pacers, one thirty three to one
twenty eight. Numerous mistakes by the Pacers. At the end
of the fourth quarter, They're up three with ten seconds left, to.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Go, Jason Lett to drop.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Okay, they turn it over on the inbounds, they don't
foul and they should.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Celtics make a big three.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Jalen Brown to go to overtime, Celtics win it by five.
Jerry's Halliburn dribbles the ball out of bounds with a
minute left to go, a lot of mistakes. But whose
fault was it?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Really? The the Pacers lost.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Pages that coach Rick Carlile met the media moments ago.
Maybe it was about the evil big market teams and
the old oh if only we could small market.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Teams only got to the pre thrower line ten times.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Whose fault was it that the Pacers fell to the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Let's hear from Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Here's no flak.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I've got a little snack for you. Had he just
found snowflake, the Pacers might have won. That could have happened.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
That would have solved a lot of problems. Right, I
had no question about it. He's singing country roads and
having a nice long walk missing the diamond in his ring. Right,
Towners are not here?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Is Rick Carlisle debating and telling you whose fault it
was that the Pacers lost game?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
One of the Celtics.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
I love the way our guys fought in this game.
This this loss is totally on me. With ten seconds
in regulation, we should have just taken the time out,
advanced the ball and found a way to get it
in and made a free thrower too and ended the game.
But it didn't happen, and we made some other mistakes.
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But our guys just need to concentrate on fighting the
way they fought in this game from start to finish,
and we'll be back Thursday.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Rick, what to you was the root cause of your
turnover issues tonight? Twenty one? I think was the number
you guys.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Did two for thirty two points to what I saw
was on again. Sorry, you know, we we had one more.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Got to be accurate.
Speaker 10 (33:52):
So that's an area we got to clean up. And
then you know, rebounding was pretty even, but we did
We did a lot of good things that we need
to continue to do.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
And you know, we we've we've been a.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
Tough, minded, resilient team really for almost the entire second
half of the year, and we gotta we got to
continue with that and come back in here on Thursday night.
Was there instruction with foul before that brown three, even
though there wasn't really a chance to do so. Yes,
but he caught the ball and he was faced up,
so Pascal decided to lay off, which was you know,
I understand, you know, that's probably the right decision. You
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don't want to give up a four point play. So
you know, look, a lot of things had to go
wrong for us and right for them. They did, and
so you know, we got to own it and we
got to get ready for Thursday.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
All right, now, let's stop right there for a second,
because he blew off the meaning of that last week.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Kind of paused he was going to go into it
and skated by.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Because because he didn't want to call this guy out Dan.
But really what the question was was, when you're up
three and the other team has the ball, and you're
up three with ten seconds left, why don't you foul
on the floor like you foul down low, and then
you make them hit a couple of free throws no
matter what they're still down, you're shooting free throws. It's
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a big philosophy. And look, we had Ryan Hollins join
us and say, hey, my mind has changed forever on that.
My mind has changed forever on fouling when you're up
at the end of games because of what he saw
in this game. So to say, oh, Pascal didn't want
to go up the one to give him four point play. No, no, no,
I don't mean not fouling. It's fouling before he gets
that shot off. You know, it's fouling before, Hey, when
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you go to the free throw line and show whatever
it is, you're fouling down low, so you're not walking
off that possession with a tie game going to overtime.
So he kind of blew the question off. Overall, though,
I like the fact that you took responsibility and whatever
it is is at least keeping it off of his
guys from game one, not knowing how they're going to
react to. Hey, here, it's the bright lights of the
(35:52):
Eastern Conference semifinals are one thing, but you get to
the Eastern Conference finals and suddenly, oh wow, it's a
little bit Bigger. Doesn't want him to lose confidence. He
knows they made a lot of mistakes, so he's doing
the he's doing the coach thing, of which which I
love what they do. Hey, my fault tonight. Don't worry.
My guys are great. Even though I mean, what do
you say. He must want to bang your head against
wall when you watch Halliburton dribbling the ball out of bounds.
(36:14):
But to say, hey, my fault, even if a lot
of it wasn't, that's his way of saying, Okay, make
it about me. My guys can now sit for a
couple of days, come back, and we have to go
get game two.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
No, but that's said. He passed absolved Siakam of any blame.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
There was a hesitance there in a minute now and
if you see eighty, if you see the video live,
there's a moment where you can see, all right, I
can go in here, I really can.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, but I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, but I got out of let it go. I
like the fact that he called out the report. No, no,
it's twenty two, twenty two for thirty two, get it right, Yeah,
don't short us on our turn over.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, there's seventy eight calls. I'm sending the league after
tonight's game.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Seventy eight. I'm sending, not seventy seven, not seventy nine.
I'm sending seventy eight.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Maybe it's just twenty two to match the number of turnover,
Just so you know, I coded it talking about how
they should have taken a time out, advanced the ball,
all of those things instead of trying to inbound as
Siakam was coming back to the end line right to
give them that opportunity altogether. So no for Rick Carlisle,
(37:16):
as bad as he was at times, and I know,
especially to your mind last last round and we got
into it a bit yesterday. You can find the podcast
wherever you download your audio of where you know he
did the gamesmanship to the extremes last round. Here he
just said, I'll absorb all your hate, bring it all
on me.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
I can't really say here again, it's a small market.
Basers right about me, Doyle, right about me. Cravin's it's
all my fault.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
He just turned to the PR guy before we're gonna say, hey,
can I really get away with saying it's it's it's
it's a big.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Market, small Martin and I can't do that this. I'm okay,
But what did I tell you?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yes responsibility that he fully I think he got muzzled
by the league after last round two x it out about.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
A Rasca exit swollen dome.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
You ready for this coming up next postgame from Tonight's
Celtics Pacers game tells me exactly who the Lakers head
coach is going to buy.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
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want to say mercifully, but I guess this was. As
much as we love the closest of this game, plant
it's over chaos.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, but every session got weird. You got Tatum hug
and Obi topping on, Freeman chaos going on. But you
know what, if you bet the pacers.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
You got your money. Hey, they got their back, got
your money.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You got to sit back and you were licking bills,
so it's a it's a good day for you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It is a final Game one in the Eastern Conference
Finals goes to the Celtics in overtime, one thirty three
to one twenty eight. It is a big time miracle
three by Jalen Brown that sent this game to overtime
and a shot that probably should not have taken place,
but we'll get to that in a second. Jason Tatum
(01:44):
absolutely owns overtime for the Celtics. He hits a big three,
hits his free throws down the stretch. Yes, he does
ridiculously grab Obie Toppin during a free throw, so Toppin
gets two free throws, but the mistakes eventually offended because
the game is over. It's a fine ye thirty six
for Tatum. The Celtics take a one game to nothing
lead in the Eastern Conference Finals. This is the game
(02:05):
the Celtics were up twelve to nothing. They watched those
Pacers bounce back to tie the game at halftime.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That a twelve point lead in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Pacers tied it going to the fourth quarter, and honestly,
the Pacers should have won this game. There were so
many mistakes and turnovers by both teams at the end
of the fourth quarter, in the last minute in overtime.
But the big one we're going to talk about has
to do with the fact of how this game gets
to overtime. The Celtics are down three with about ten
(02:34):
seconds left to go, and the Pacers have a foul
to give.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
This is where I mean, I don't know, maybe maybe
there's an official Rick Carlisle can blame for Pacers not foul.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
He's gonna be upset about something in the postgame Pretz conference.
So the play here with ten seconds to go, Okay,
the Celtics need a three, right, you would just turn
the ball over on an inbounds play. You had the
ball and a three point lead with ten seconds left,
and Pascal Siakam, who had an incredibly good game, had
two of the worst plays that absolutely killed the Pacers.
(03:05):
Siakam couldn't handle the inbounds pass. He winds up knocking
it out of bounds, so the Celtics have the ball.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Where he's also coming back to the ball. It was battling.
People were looking for a fall. It's like, no, it's
a battle, and it was terrible as it goes out
of balance.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It was. It was awful.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I don't know why at that point you're not looking
to throw the ball in down on the Celtics side.
They someone said, Okay, this is not happening here, let's
throw it down here. But no, the Celtics wind up
with the ball with about twelve seconds left to go
in the game and we get the double bang three
from Jalen Brown. Courtesy of Mike Breen. This is how
(03:40):
it sounded and how we went to overtime when really
the Pacers should have just fouled, but the Celtics not
the line they're shooting to. The Pacers have the ball
with a one point lead, ten seconds left, they're likely
shooting free throws, but instead we wound up tied going
to over time. Look, Siakam had a great game right
(04:04):
twenty four to twelve and seven, and he was the
difference in this game. Okay, he was the difference in
this game the last couple of times, last couple times
this year the Celtics played the Pacers. It was before
Siakam got traded, So he was the big X factor
coming into this game.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
We talked about it last night Hey, that's the one
thing I will tell you. Ay Boston gives away games. Siakam,
who's had an incredible first round against the second round
against the Knicks. They have not played with him, and
he brings a different skill set. And yes, you had
him against Toronto, so you're familiar with his game a
little because you played him a lot. But hear how
he fits in with this Pacers team. And twenty four
to twelve and seven, he had a great game. This
(04:42):
was his game. And then you get the play at
the end of regulation where Siakam just kind of stands
in the corner and allows Jalen Brown to get the
three off. Now, is it a great three? Is it
a wide open three? No, it's a difficult three. It's
a difficult three. But when you talk about the strategy, say, hey,
when you foul, when you have a foul to give,
you want to you want to put a guy in
(05:03):
the lot. When you foul, you foul, right, you foul?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You do that that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You can't just say, well, I want to do it.
But maybe it looks good because he doesn't have a
great look at the basket. That's not part of it.
It's it's it's it's if you're gonna foul, you foul
when you're up three and and the other team has
the ball. This is what you do when you put
the guy in the line and a game goes from there.
But when you have that going on, you can't just
decide and go ah, I was okay with the look
(05:28):
he got, I was okay. That's how that strategy breaks down.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Well because also as you watch his body language, because
Brown goes to the ground and you immediately see Siakam
puts his arms behind his hands like uh and bind
his back on nothing to see here.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I didn't hit him, really, I didn't hit him. And
the shot goes down.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It's like, no, you knock him into the fourth row
and put him on the line or have him take
the ball.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I mean, it made no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But Brown hits the big three and and and then
we get you know, the huge overtime period from Jason Tatum.
But Seaccum had played a great game overall, right, key
to many of their chargebacks to get back into this game.
And then that sequence down at the end again, you're there,
(06:17):
You've got him covered up, and then you do everything
you can to sell Hey, I didn't follow him, because
if you want to go a letter of the law,
you probably should have had a four point play because
enough contact to maybe draw the.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Whistle, yes, but not enough runs.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
But then he puts him behind his back, like, yeah,
nothing to see here, referee, I didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
But but he goes to the ground, right, Brown goes
to the ground.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And usually you see a superstar call, right, especially at
home and in all these big kind of scenarios. So
you did enough maybe to create the foul call, but
not enough to do anything to disrupt the shot.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And then you want to get to overtime and you
talk about the the the unforced errors is that you know,
this is a game that that the Pacers once again
took the lead in overtime. Okay, it's it's it's getting
to be there, but we didn't see a lot of
scoring in the last couple of minutes. This was a
game the Pacers had the lead. Both teams were kind
of just kind of chugging towards the end a little bit,
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and you get an incredibly bad turnover from Tyrese Halliburton
after Tatum had made a free throw of the end
one to give the Celtics a one point lead, and
you're gonna see the whole oh dead spots on the floor,
the ghosts of of.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Boston Garden from years past, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But Halliburton just you know, with the Pacers with the
ball and then it left to go, just dribbled it
out of bounds like it didn't like you say dribble
off his foot as a phrase it's used, but then
you see that, but that's not what happened.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
He just lost the handle.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He just lost the handle trying to turn and the
ball goes over his left hand and goes out of bounds.
He tries to grab it and jump in the air
and call it up, he'd already stepped out of bounds.
That turned the ball over to the Celtics. And after
that turnover to Celtics, Jason Tatum makes that big three.
It's a four point game, and basically the game is
over at that point, like that's where the game was
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won and lost by the Pacers. And so you want
to put all of this in the hopper and mix
it up, make a big stew make a big like
Carl Weathers would say, in the rest of development, we're
just consenting adults making a stew like you put this
all in a big stew for the Pacers, and they're
gonna sit here and say, well, there are some foul calls.
It probably should have happened, because you know that's it.
Rick Carlisle is thinking, well, they.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Only shot ten free throws.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Look how three of them came on that yeah, contested
shot from how you know, the attempted block from behind
on Halliburton.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Otherwise they had two free throws through three quarters.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, look, and this is what I tell you when
I talk about the Knicks, right, when I talked about
the Knicks and the and the Sixers and games against
the Pacers, Hey, yes, are there calls that probably should
have been made? Yeah, but it there's nothing unbelievably outstanding
like we had with the Knicks and the Sixers and
the Knicks and the Pacers, None of those calls.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
But are there calls that could be made?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Are you going to see replays of stuff on social
media going, oh, how is this not called?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
No, you're gonna have always are right? Yah?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But when I can point to self made mistakes, self
inflicted wounds, and that's how you lose in big spots,
I don't care about that. I said the same thing
for the next Hey, were there a couple of calls
It should have been made in a couple of those
games where the referee advantage went to the Pacers or
went to the Sixers. Yeah, but I can count all
the bad Knicks mistakes and that's why they wind up
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losing that game. I'm not going to complain about the
officials at that point. It's the same thing with this game,
because when I can sit here and say, hey, yeah,
there's a couple of calls here in Rick Carlisle, I'm
sure is going to find a way to play.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
The small market teams.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
And now we're in Boston. It was New York and
balls in such a big city and no one knows
their way around, and it's so difficult because we're.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
A small market team.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
There's one road going in and out of Indianapolis, and
there's the bus station, and there's the airport.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You can't even fly direct from anywhere. You can't even
fly direct from Chicago. We're just a small outpost. Nobody
even comes here anymore.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
People only out because they want to take pictures at
the field us where Bobby Pluck made that shot, and
they shot hoosers. That's all we have here, And Caitlyn Clark,
I mean he's gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But I can sit here and say, Okay, I get it. Okay,
what referee made Tyre's Halliburton and dribble the ball out
of bounds? What referee? What referee didn't foul Jalen Brown
at the end of the fourth quarter, You had a
ten you had a three point lead with ten seconds
left to go, and the basketball and you lost. You
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better all of those things, right, but you bottom line
is you had a three point lead with ten seconds left,
and you had the basketball and you lost the game.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
That's all. That's all.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
If I see anything from Rick Carlisle tonight about that,
I mean, you will and the guy I'm just gonna laugh,
all right, I'm just gonna laugh because no one stopped
any of those things from happening.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
No one stopped any of those things.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You can look at the free throw differentially, go okay,
I hear you on that. But the Pacers still had three,
four to five chances to put this game away and
they didn't. And it's not like the Celtics were like, hey,
we're playing We're playing a plus basketball No, they gave
the ball back and gave the Pacers chance to give
it back like nobody wanted that game. But nothing's gonna
change that. Nothing's gonna change that. You turn it over
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on the inbounds. You didn't, You didn't foul Jalen Brown,
Halliburton lost the ball, all the bounds at the end,
none of that stopped that three point lead, ten seconds
left and the basketball and you lost.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You turned the ball over to either twenty one or
twenty two times, depending on what box score you're looking at.
That number may may go up, they may go up
upon review. Celtics turn it over fifteen. This is not
a clean game by anything.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It would the imagination.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I want people to know because this is what my again,
this is what Mike and I say. It doesn't need
to be art that you just needed to be close.
This was and exciting. Is this a game they're going
to put up in the Naysmith Museum and go, hey,
you want to see the best of NBA action Watch
the fourth end of the fourth.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Quarter Brown, that could go on a top shot. No, no,
you know it's in digital moment.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
That that's gonna go like on a on a coaches
clip reel for next year going in training camp and
they go, okay, so if we're up three and the
other team has the ball and we can foul, I
want to foul because look what happens when you don't
and you press the button and goes on a toe.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It shows a shot. It's an instructional video. Oh that's good.
No of this makes lot. No, there's a lot right.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
This is this is where we get the Hankas Area
character patches o'hulahan. We get him back and we do
a black and white video that it instruct you how
to play basketball.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Basketball is a sport about degradation and embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
It is true. It is true.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But I mean, you shot fifty three point five percent
from the field. If you're Indiana, you shot thirty seven
percent from three. Yeah, you didn't get to the free
throw line, so I'm sure there'll be some contentiousness there.
But you move the ball, well, you had thirty eight
assists on your fifty three. Makes all of those things
all positives. You turn the ball over twenty one times,
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including several huge several of which are obviously they're not forced.
Turnovers are just bad brain tree.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
All the officials. All the officials fault.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Then you saw a couple of times and Halliburton trying
to pass the official waves his handed away and knocks
it out of bou ball to the ball the Jedi
mind tricks, buddy, I mean, you know he's using the
force to take the ball out. About that big Pascal
Siakam turnover. You saw the official stick his hand in
there and knock it out.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
You know they had the ability to make the sidelines invisible.
You really don't know where you're dribbling, kind of like
when you're playing youth soccer and you're not quite sure
if the line is.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Straight or not.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
You take care of your best Guess did the ball
go fully out of bounds?
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You saw Tony Brothers take that huge charge on TJ
McConnell put the Celtics on the free throw line.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
You saw it happen, right, Come on, uh talk about
your favorite player right there.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Exit out, about a Fresco exit swalling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend, my car and oh boy,
the drama and what the Pacers have to be saying
to themselves after blowing this game. You let them off
the hook. You knew who they were coming up next?
What's the big Dog gonna have to say? Ryan Hollins,
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game one of the Western Conference Finals tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
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Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, Fox Sports Radio the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon. Celtics in overtime take advantage of
numerous Pacers mistakes in the final seconds of the fourth
quarter and overtime, they win Game one of the Eastern
Conference Finals one thirty three, one twenty eight. Let me
just say this, dear media members who were upset the
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Pacers weren't getting the coverage against the knixt Dear Indiana
Pacers who were upset they weren't getting more coverage. The
coverage is now all about you. Congratulations, good night and
good luck.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
It's your time. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Now it's all about all the stuff you didn't do
and all the mistakes you made.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Congratulations, man, you wanted it, You got it, man, you
got a good night and good luck. Are we gonna
go see it on Broadway? Good Night and good luck.
Clony Clooney's bringing it to the Great White Way. Are
we gonna go? Is he really? Oh yeah, that's gonna
be there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, he and Hessloff are producing if he's gonna leave
Lake Como And yeah, was getting and be on Broadway
a while. So time now to break it down. Nobody
better than to say hi to the big Dog.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Former NBA star, our teammate here at Fox Sports Radio
NBA analyst Houston Rockets analyst, probably wearing an outfit right now.
He spent no more than seven dollars to buy. It
is Ryan Hollins, big dog. What's happening, man?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
How are you? What's up to money?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (17:27):
My goodness, dude, because i'd be in a you know,
give a take it on it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I may have you, man, I may have me because
I got I got a I got a thrifteing T
shirt and sweatpants right now that I know.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Don't get me more than eight dollars. I'm already. I'm yeah,
I'm already. I'm starting out pretty well.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
What's that wallet? Though?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
He got nothing? He bought a sandwich on the way in.
He got nothing, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So Rick Carlyle just began his postgame press conference by
saying this loss is on me, is the law saw
him as a loss on the players?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
What'd you think of this?
Speaker 6 (18:04):
I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
I've been there before as a player, and you know,
normally you want to play those situations out. But maybe
Rick is just saying I didn't think about the turnovers
down the stretch. Maybe I should have kept Halliburton in
the middle of the floor. You think about not fouling
in that situation, say hey, hey, grab him, Hey grab him.
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Make sure once the ball is in you grab him.
And you know, I'm sure with Pascal, Pascal's probably thinking
there's no way he makes this shot. And as a player,
you like to be confident in your abilities. He took
his complete airspace away and he ends up hitting that shot.
And again I wasn't as firm a believer. And then
when I'm up three, you're gonna faul but I'm all
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in now.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Look I changed that. I'd rather have him at the
line for three if I gotta plant him.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Come on, man, well my rocket.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
This season end up losing to the Trailblazers not fouling
at the end of the game, and then against Oklahoma
City they were supposed to foul, they don't foul and
Jalen Williams, you know, ends up hitting a twenty five
foot three, you know, leaning into the basket. And these
guys are so good in today's NBA that you have
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to make sure they don't have a shot to score.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
So I'm all in, like I get it.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
And then now you know, you extend the game out,
but you don't allow these guys to tie the game up.
And I mean Pascal, if you look at the replay,
he's literally in Jalen Jalen Brown's jersey and he gets
the shot off and.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
They end up winning the game.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
But if I'm Indiana, I've got a strange confidence right now.
It's a resilient group. I don't think they know any different.
And if you're Boston man, you gotta be scared because
it took everything you had to end up beating them.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well, what if this is the game that ball normally
gives away and you gave it back, right, because.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
They always give away one at home?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You and I were talking about this on the Sunday Show. Right,
they're gonna give you an opportunity to come and take one.
What if this was their shot?
Speaker 9 (20:12):
No, you're you're You're right about that, and and and again.
You know we talked about it. When you see this
Boston Celtics teams, they're different. They're literally a completely different team.
They're teams that just end up firing up a bunch
of threes, or they end up looking like a team
that you want to just hand the NBA title to
right away. But when when I'm looking at Indiana, you know,
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they match up a little better. I think with the
addition to Pascal Siakam, obviously, right we rate about them,
but a guy who stood out to meet tonight is
Obi Topping. Obi topping game is a guy who just
makes them so much more athletic. Uh, they're able to
match up with with Tatum and Brown. Obviously, they still
have those small guards. They end up getting posted up
or you know, give something up. But man, you got
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a group that's believing right now. If I'm the pacer,
I feel very confident.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, here here's the thing. Let me look at it
from a different perspective. Because yes, they think the whole
world is waiting for the Celtics to collapse. We've seen
it so many times, but I look at it this way.
Siakam clearly was the difference maker. Tonight, regardless of the
two big mistakes he made, he couldn't handle the inbound pass.
He doesn't foil at the end of regulation. This was
the first time the Celtics had seen this version of
the Pacers. This is the first time they played siaka mean,
(21:23):
you can figure things out Noah Guy's game from Toronto,
but this is the first time and they know. Okay,
so I expect a big adjustment in Game two, and
I expect I expect this to be a better Game
two for the Celtics, and expected because now, okay, we've
seen Game one, we know what we need to do.
This was the Pacers kind of taking us a little
bit by surprise, coming off the vapors from the last game,
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coming back twice in this one. I oddly feel good
about the Celtics going into Game two.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
Really, And you know, another big X factor for me
is Miles Turner. I don't think with prizingis missing or
if he comes back and he's half way that he's
going to be able to make enough of an impact.
But that's the guy the Celtics are kind of struggling
to match up with his ability to roll to pop
back for threes. He's active on the glass. He's the
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guy that I kind of look at even though they're small.
That's a difference, you know, obviously in Indiana side. So
if you're the Celtics, man, I think you got to
grit it out. I think their experience one out. You're
the Pacers, you say, hey, man, look at these mental mistakes.
Look how close this game was. And obviously hats off
to the Celtics, because you're right, they normally had that
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game that they give away. But I felt like the
Celtics kind of came out to you know, like they
were aware, like they had a respect for Indiana, which
makes me not feel as confident for the Celtics and
they just come out and they look uninterested in times.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, that's a strong, strong out of the gate, that
twelve twelve point lead, early twelve point lead in the third.
One of those games, though, Ryan, when we get to
an Eastern Conference final, we have thirty five turnovers in
this game, just some sloppy, sloppy playing.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
How do you lose sight of where the end line is?
You know on the sidelines.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Halliburton, multiple times we've seen him have trouble where he
loses perspective.
Speaker 9 (23:15):
There those are fouls that have been called all season long,
and in some instances all playoffs long, and at this moment,
the referees are like, dude, we're gonna.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Let you guys play.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
So for Halliburton, he's going to adjust to the physicality.
And I think the crazy thing about Indiana there's a
lot of first there's a lot of first time this far,
first time seeing this, and for them to have kind
of taken that first punch from the Celtics and bounce back,
I think they will adjust to the tempo and the
physicality that the playoffs starts to coming. Because I'm telling
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you one thing from playing in it, I was surprised.
I'm like, you can grab, like, you can shove on
rebounds and they don't call it.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
It's like really.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Like and then I'm like, you know, the biggest difference
is all those old guys, all those you know, ten
twelve year veterans. They're playing hard, they're in a stance,
they sprint back on defense, they're doing all the little things.
So I think Indiana is going to as I don't
think they should have been anywhere this close.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Ryan Hollins with us The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Carmon live from the tirec dot Com studios. All right, now,
the big elephant in the room. We saw the big discrepancy.
The Celtics went to the free throw line. Hang on,
we look it up eighty six more times tonight than
the Pacers did. The Pacers actually went to the free
throw line a negative amount of time tonight, if that's possible. Uh,
did you see a big discrepancy? Did you see a
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big advantage for the Celtics foul wise or was this
just hey, they were more physical, they were getting the calls.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
Well, here, Indy gives up a lot of size with
nim Hart, Halli Burton in those guys. So you know,
when the big guards of the Celtics get downhill, they
have to foul them. They're grabbing and holding, and the
Pacers are out are pretty much a jump shooting team
outside of Mi Turner, you know when he's rolling to
the rim. So you know the way they play other
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than Pascal Siakam, you know, they really aren't going to
get a lot of fouls called. And that is the
advantage for the Celtics. They they have those huge guards.
So I'm not gonna make too much of a fuss
about the whistle. But again, I think Indiana goes back.
They watched the film and they're gonna see the physicality
that they're going to need to meet the Celtics for
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in this series.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
So they just put up a graphic the Holiday as
twenty eight, seven and eight. But while defending Haliburt and
Halibert a couple of turnovers and he's zerover five from
the field.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
He played forty eight minutes tonight.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
He's the Josh Hart of the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
So he's gonna get hitting the solar plexus problems. What
are we talking they do they change up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Do the Celtics see, hey, this is what worked, and
maybe there's a little bit more of Holiday on Halliburton
in game two.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Yeah, I think you can see that.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
And I think that is the challenge for the Selics
that a lot of times they're sub versatile. They're so
good that Missoula doesn't have to make too many changes.
You know, he'll come out with a standard his standard defense.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
You know, well, they just they'll.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
Just switch things up, play guy straight up. And I
think that's where a lot of the criticism, you know, ends,
up coming from So I don't see the Celtics making
too much of an adjustment. Obviously that was a good matchup.
But the tough thing is that there's not just one
guy who's gonna shut out Halliburton. And the reason I
say it, he's so dynamic. He plays a lot of
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pick and roll. So what you'll do if you got
Drew Holliday on him? Drew Holliday is going to be
chasing through screens. And what do the Celtics do. They
like to switch every opportunity that they can get. So
you'll just set a little brush screen and see if
Drew Halliday is going to switch or stay in coverage,
and you'll most likely have to switch. Why because they
hit threes at such a high rate, just as the Knicks.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Sorry, Jason, that's all.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Hey, look we finished We finished the game with one
and a half. Guys, It's okay. It's okay in games.
So they Jalen Brunson. That's how bad it got.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, he had the obligatory literal break at the end
of it all.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
Hey, hey, hey, hats off to your Knicks though, great year.
You should be happy, very unhappy.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Sure, he still he hates Rick Carlisle and everything he
stands for, just.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Like complaining, the complaining from Rick Carlo.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
All right, so hey, big dog, before I let you
go Western Conference Finals tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Give us your pick. Who's going to the NBA Finals?
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (27:26):
Who is going to the NBA Finals?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Man? I like I like Minnesota. I didn't.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
I didn't pick them against Denver, And I think it's
all in fairness to say. I don't think any of
us did. And to see Denver give up a twenty
point lead and get walked down at the house, I'm surprised.
And there's something about Minnesota right now. Man, it looks
like they're just believing, Like they just believe in what's
going on. I don't think they're great offensively, they're a
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lead on the defensive end, and and just they're huge,
and I think they're one of the rare teams that
can go out and guard Luka Dantic. They can take
Dallas off the boards. This is gonna be completely opposite.
Oklahoma City gave up a lot of offensive rebounds, they
didn't have the size. But Minnesota is gonna be cleaning
glass and we'll see how they respond there. But again,
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I think between Edwards McDaniels Conley. They can frustrate defensively
Luca and those boys, and that may be the big
factor in the series because you need both those guys
end up scoring big.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
You know me, I like when the older guys and
veteran players are getting their run. Like we talked about
Al Horford a bunch, you and I on the Sunday
Morning Show. Kyrie Irving getting a lot of love. You
mentioned Mike Conley there, the front line change up there.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
PJ.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Washington coming up big for Dallas time and time again.
How important is he to Dallas's chances here in this
next round?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
He's been huge.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
You know, Dallas has been screaming for a third option
for a very long time. I think we're all seeing
the world just welcome to PJ. Washington. He's made big plays.
They trust him down the stretch and a lot of
times with those great players. Remember from Kobe Bryant going, man,
I'd rather shoot this ball one on three than trust
any of my teammates.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
I'm gonna get the best look. And I said to say,
because PJ.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
Washington is getting the respect of Luca, he's getting the
respect of Kyrie, They're getting him the ball in big
moments and he's delivering, so obviously I think he's the
biggest value of the trademarket deadline hats off to the
front office over there in Dallas. They've done a Chico
and the boys have done a bang up job there.
So I think he's gonna have to play big and
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he's gonna have.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
To be that guy. You know.
Speaker 9 (29:43):
If he has a couple of those games he's in
the twenty plus point range, that just takes the press
off Kyrie and Luca.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
He's on Twitter at the Ryan Hollands that is, at
the Ryan Holland seven foot or Podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
He's got it all.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And if JJ Reddick becomes the next head coach of
the Lakers, let me know what gig you want. I'll
write to let a recommendation. Who do you want to
be the head coach for? If that can happen, that
can happen for you, man.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Boy, they make you shoot up as a broadcast, you
can wear sweats on the sideline.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Just add me to the Jason Smith Show.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
We're good, all right, see you.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Buddy, We'll see you Sunday, buddy. All right, there goes
Ryan Holland. Just add me to the show. I'm fine,
he just wants to be added, is yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Fox Uh Sports Sunday, He and I six to nine
Pacific breaking this all down as well.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live in the
tire rag dot Com Studios Coming up next. Rick Carlyle
absolutely pointed a finger of blame had something very specific
for why the Pacers lost this game with the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Was it the referees? Was it Halibert dribbling the ball
out of bounds?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Was it Pascal Siakam, was it the big market teams
getting calls? Or was it something else? You'll hear him
coming up next right here Jason.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
And Mike Fox. Was it him saying who stole Snowflake?
Who stole Snowflake?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (31:14):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Celtics take Game one of the Eastern
Conference Finals over the Pacers, one thirty three to one
twenty eight. Numerous mistakes by the Pacers. At the end
of the fourth quarter, They're up three with ten seconds left, to.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Go, Jason Lett to drop.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Okay, they turn it over on the inbounds, they don't
foul and they should.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Celtics make a big three.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Jalen Brown to go to overtime, Celtics win it by five.
Jerry's Halliburn dribbles the ball out of bounds with a
minute left to go, a lot of mistakes. But whose
fault was it?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Really? The the Pacers lost.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Pages that coach Rick Carlile met the media moments ago.
Maybe it was about the evil big market teams and
the old oh if only we could small market.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Teams only got to the pre thrower line ten times.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Whose fault was it that the Pacers fell to the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Let's hear from Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Here's no flak.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I've got a little snack for you. Had he just
found snowflake, the Pacers might have won. That could have happened.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
That would have solved a lot of problems. Right, I
had no question about it. He's singing country roads and
having a nice long walk missing the diamond in his ring. Right,
Towners are not here?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Is Rick Carlisle debating and telling you whose fault it
was that the Pacers lost game?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
One of the Celtics.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
I love the way our guys fought in this game.
This this loss is totally on me. With ten seconds
in regulation, we should have just taken the time out,
advanced the ball and found a way to get it
in and made a free thrower too and ended the game.
But it didn't happen, and we made some other mistakes.
(33:28):
But our guys just need to concentrate on fighting the
way they fought in this game from start to finish,
and we'll be back Thursday.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Rick, what to you was the root cause of your
turnover issues tonight? Twenty one? I think was the number
you guys.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Did two for thirty two points to what I saw
was on again. Sorry, you know, we we had one more.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Got to be accurate.
Speaker 10 (33:52):
So that's an area we got to clean up. And
then you know, rebounding was pretty even, but we did
We did a lot of good things that we need
to continue to do.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
And you know, we we've we've been a.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
Tough, minded, resilient team really for almost the entire second
half of the year, and we gotta we got to
continue with that and come back in here on Thursday night.
Was there instruction with foul before that brown three, even
though there wasn't really a chance to do so. Yes,
but he caught the ball and he was faced up,
so Pascal decided to lay off, which was you know,
I understand, you know, that's probably the right decision. You
(34:29):
don't want to give up a four point play. So
you know, look, a lot of things had to go
wrong for us and right for them. They did, and
so you know, we got to own it and we
got to get ready for Thursday.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
All right, now, let's stop right there for a second,
because he blew off the meaning of that last week.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Kind of paused he was going to go into it
and skated by.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Because because he didn't want to call this guy out Dan.
But really what the question was was, when you're up
three and the other team has the ball, and you're
up three with ten seconds left, why don't you foul
on the floor like you foul down low, and then
you make them hit a couple of free throws no
matter what they're still down, you're shooting free throws. It's
(35:11):
a big philosophy. And look, we had Ryan Hollins join
us and say, hey, my mind has changed forever on that.
My mind has changed forever on fouling when you're up
at the end of games because of what he saw
in this game. So to say, oh, Pascal didn't want
to go up the one to give him four point play. No, no, no,
I don't mean not fouling. It's fouling before he gets
that shot off. You know, it's fouling before, Hey, when
(35:32):
you go to the free throw line and show whatever
it is, you're fouling down low, so you're not walking
off that possession with a tie game going to overtime.
So he kind of blew the question off. Overall, though,
I like the fact that you took responsibility and whatever
it is is at least keeping it off of his
guys from game one, not knowing how they're going to
react to. Hey, here, it's the bright lights of the
(35:52):
Eastern Conference semifinals are one thing, but you get to
the Eastern Conference finals and suddenly, oh wow, it's a
little bit Bigger. Doesn't want him to lose confidence. He
knows they made a lot of mistakes, so he's doing
the he's doing the coach thing, of which which I
love what they do. Hey, my fault tonight. Don't worry.
My guys are great. Even though I mean, what do
you say. He must want to bang your head against
wall when you watch Halliburton dribbling the ball out of bounds.
(36:14):
But to say, hey, my fault, even if a lot
of it wasn't, that's his way of saying, Okay, make
it about me. My guys can now sit for a
couple of days, come back, and we have to go
get game two.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
No, but that's said. He passed absolved Siakam of any blame.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
There was a hesitance there in a minute now and
if you see eighty, if you see the video live,
there's a moment where you can see, all right, I
can go in here, I really can.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, but I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, but I got out of let it go. I
like the fact that he called out the report. No, no,
it's twenty two, twenty two for thirty two, get it right, Yeah,
don't short us on our turn over.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, there's seventy eight calls. I'm sending the league after
tonight's game.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Seventy eight. I'm sending, not seventy seven, not seventy nine.
I'm sending seventy eight.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Maybe it's just twenty two to match the number of turnover,
Just so you know, I coded it talking about how
they should have taken a time out, advanced the ball,
all of those things instead of trying to inbound as
Siakam was coming back to the end line right to
give them that opportunity altogether. So no for Rick Carlisle,
(37:16):
as bad as he was at times, and I know,
especially to your mind last last round and we got
into it a bit yesterday. You can find the podcast
wherever you download your audio of where you know he
did the gamesmanship to the extremes last round. Here he
just said, I'll absorb all your hate, bring it all
on me.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
I can't really say here again, it's a small market.
Basers right about me, Doyle, right about me. Cravin's it's
all my fault.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
He just turned to the PR guy before we're gonna say, hey,
can I really get away with saying it's it's it's
it's a big.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Market, small Martin and I can't do that this. I'm okay,
But what did I tell you?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yes responsibility that he fully I think he got muzzled
by the league after last round two x it out about.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
A Rasca exit swollen dome.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
You ready for this coming up next postgame from Tonight's
Celtics Pacers game tells me exactly who the Lakers head
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