May 25, 2024 • 50 mins
Jason explains why he’s really fine with the end of the Knicks season. The guys discuss reports out of Eagles OTA's that Kenny Pickett is outperforming Jalen Hurts to this point. The Chiefs address the Harrison Butker comments. And have we seen the last of Inside The NBA?
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
The next played against the Pacer team. As McConnell puts
it in, this is one of the greatest shooting performances
in NBA playoff history.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The Indiana Pacers are in the Eastern Conference Finals. See
if the Pacers win decisively one hundred and thirty to
one hundred and nine, the first time in this series
so that the home team did not win.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Welcome into the Knicks Roast, Go New York, Go Yeah,
and the deposed Edwin Diaz.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I mean, it's all everything swirling into the fift ring
of hell. Hi, Jason, we love you, come it hold off.
Remember in Billy Madison, Steve a Shemy had that label. Yeah,
none of you guys are getting crossed off it none
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of you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I'm not gonna put lipstick on. Listen to crying game now.
None of you guys are getting crossed off. You should
have called us. You guys are all on on that list.
You guys are all you should have on the list.
Although I will say it was Ken genius in the
open when when you're the voice ever saying remember with Us,
had a good run the next flame, love Steven, Remember
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Speaker 4 (01:48):
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Speaker 2 (02:12):
The season's over.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Remember with Us?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I did like that impression with Devinchenz. It was pretty
good there.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That worked. Look, look, I'm honest. Nothing is to now
there is something that really pisses me off. But for
the Knicks, really no, no, but for the Knicks. For
the Knicks, I'm fine, I'm fine, And this is not
this is not me. This is not me saying hey,
(02:45):
I'm fine, I'm really no, I really am fine. I
told you from the beginning it's a magic carpet ride.
The season was gonna end. It was like a horror movie.
Every ten minutes in a horror movie, somebody gets killed.
Every game and a half that the place, somebody gets
hurt and gets knocked out. Of course, Jalen Brunson broke
his hand reaching in for a steal. Of course, Brunson
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broke out.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And now when that happened, at some point, you just
have to start cackling like your your Max Katie in
the movie theater came here.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You it knew a very weird.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, I was at that point where it happened. Was
Brunson's out. Go alec Perks, keep shooting threes. Come on,
alec Perks, keep shooting threes. Keep shooting threes. They'll build
a statue for you, my friend, Now build it. Uh. No,
I told you it was gonna end. I was hoping
they would have enough, and they didn't. Everybody was hurt.
You saw Ananobe tried to play he could and Josh
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Hart wasn't the same. And then Brunson breaks his hand
like a foss A.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Pacers also shot like they were, you know, the world
champion at a Papa shot at Chucky.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
No one shot that will in a playoff game in
NBA history, in history, in history, you don't. He went
Randy Savage off the top rope with the book. But
you lost to five guys and TJ mccaus. You're gonna say,
TJ Max, Look, it was going to happen. Okay, it
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was gonna happen. Now was gonna happen the next round
against the Celtics. What kind of there's It's not like
I can look back and go, oh, they blew it
or all they they were supposed to do this and
they didn't. They went as far as they could go.
This was an overachieving team that got as far as
it could win. Four of their top eight guys in
the rotation got knocked out for the season, and then
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two more guys got hurt in the last game, like
there was nobody left. Man, there was nobody, and you
got and you lost with it again, no one has
shot that well in the history of the NBA playoffs.
Came out there and gave it the old college try
a three. He's out of the game. He could he
couldn't he could move, He couldn't move. He couldn't move.
He try.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I mean, I appreciated seeing it in warm ups and
getting that note you know on air yesterday, more inside,
all right, he's going to go through like there's there's
no way, Like you saw the first couple of times
he went to do anything like yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Not gonna They thought he will as read it, Eddie.
He just couldn't, you know, he wasn't Luca. He was
at least had Luca.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
No, that's true, you'd at least have that emotional lift
that everybody else would run up from. But again, your
opponent shot sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Sixty seven. I really wanted to shoot seventy eight to
kind of start the season, start starting to end with
like come full circle. Seventy eight calls were missed. We
shoot seventy eight percent in the final game. Uh, look,
there's nothing to criticize at all. But what am I
going to say? There's it's not in BACS. It was
out stuff. Frostburg. You've been out of the playoffs. I
feel you've be out of the playoffs for three years,
you're like walking through the desert trying to find a
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way through the playoffs with the Lakers. It really just
comes back to the same old argument. Though as great
as Tom Thibodeau did and as well as this team played,
h and he's going to get an extension and and
became a full hero and the culture that's been built,
did he run them into the ground or were they
just a series of unfortunate events? No, you had Julius Randall,
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it was series was unfortunate event. The only injury you
could say maybe was over it was and Unobe because
of the soft tissue injury that he had. Brunton put
his hand in to try to get a Okay, that happened.
I mean, who has a strained intercostal muscle? Nobody, It doesn't.
These are all fluke injuries. So again with the Knicks,
I am fine. I am happy with that. I am
(06:24):
so fortunate. The last three weeks it was so exciting.
It was just gonna happen. There's nothing they could have done.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Look, and this series really turned and I'm telling you
it turned on the Nemhard three at the miracle three
where he closed his eyes and threw it up at
the end of Game three, where the Knicks kind of
gave that one away. That was where the series turned
a little bit, because okay, here they are. It would
have been a tie game, Knicks chance to win most
likely to the free throw line. Maybe it's threes that
maybe it's over. But the guy makes a miracle three
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from thirty one feet away. That kind of turned the series,
and Yacht gave the Pacers life, and the Pacers simply
outlasted the Knicks. They did that. It was just we're
gonna outlast them because they're gonna get exhausted. Guys are
going to keep getting hurt. Let's just keep playing and
eventually left. Nobody left. So there's nothing I could say
about the Knicks. Er I could say I wish they
would have done this, or man, I can't believe they
did this. I can't believe that. Even the play that
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turned the series. Yeah, you have the worst player on
the floor with the ball thirty one feet from the
basket and all he can do is shoot. Yeah, you're
gonna give that up, and the guy made it, Like
what can you There's nothing to be done. It's a
hell of a step back. It's it's it's really weird
that I can look at the end of one on
my team in the playoffs and go there was nothing
to be done. They lost to a team that was deeper,
they were better, and they were healthier, and now they
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move on. There's nothing. There's nothing I could do about it.
A couple of things that we need to discuss. First,
you know, there's a butt coming, but go ahead.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
But for everybody that was doing me, oh, I got
tired of it being Nick's in Nick's coverage whatever. It's like,
where's the better story. Where is there any story for
the Indiana Pacers that got you excitable? For the NBA,
for all coverage for people that are fans, grew up
in New York, went to a New y York school,
(08:01):
you know, all of those things that flow through. So
anybody doing the oh, it's too bad that they shouldn't
get the run, you know what, start giving it their
run now, because I garan, damn Tea, you didn't do
it this last series either, So stop complaining about the
Knicks coverage.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, it wasn't a bit much, but I'd.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Liked seeing my friend happy to a point, you know,
I mean, it's one of those because you're jealous because
my team stinks, and that's the way it goes. I mean,
Zach Levine right now has the NBA. He is the
leader of the guy with the worst winning percentage as
a player with five hundred games played, thirty seven thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's how much his team wins.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So anybody that's doing the oh, we should have talked
about Indiana more or you should have done that. Like
you didn't talk about Indiana. Don't try to sell me
that you did unless you were talking about Reggie Miller
hitting a shot. You didn't talk about Indiana as it
rolled out for twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Now for the Knicks, may they were fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Like they were team that everybody could embrace because it
was the blue collar go to work, put in your
forty minutes or forty four whatever Thibodeau was going to require.
And you rolled through and unfortunately you just saw the
wheels come off one after another. Right, it's the being
out for the test drive. Take the old Kramer from Seinfeld.
How far could we break that needle off? That's kind
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of where the Knicks were. Eventually that car is stopping
in the middle of the desert, and that's exactly what
happened here. Just did not have enough to outlast and
nor did you think that they would be able to
shoot sixty seven percent? Your guy nem hard. He went
eight of ten. Sure, he had twenty. Everybody was everywhere,
everybody plays, everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Win sixty cent. What are you gonna do? What are
you gonna do? Right? But you know there's a butt coming. Okay,
there's a butt. But I'm not mad about the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
No. I watched your I watched your facial response to
what was going on in the open and everything, so
I know there's a butt.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Here's what I'm mad about. I'm mad that we lost
to them. I'm mad that we lost to the Pacers.
I'm mad that we lost to a team that, like
a little kid who wasn't being given ice cream, cried
and cried the first two games of the series and said, oh,
it's not being called right, and it's the small market
teams and we're not giving a chance. And then they
start winning games and suddenly, oh, oh no, everything is
(10:19):
fine now because we're winning. Like I gave the kid
a lollipop, Would you please be quiet and stop crying here? Okay,
everything is fine, and then at the end of the
series it's all patronizing and Rick Carlisle saying, oh, the
amount of respect I have for the Knicks and Tom Tibodeau,
and earlier it was all big market teams. Get it. Yeah,
you don't do that, you can't. And then you have
players trolling the next I'm wearing a Reggie Miller sweat
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and you cried and moaned and complained that it was
so sad, and you were so oh, we're being done
so dirty, this is awful. Oh open, now we're winning.
Let me dry my tears and let me let me
stop snipping. And now now I got my swerve back
a little bit there, because it's two thousand and six
and I said swerve, and now we have automatically I'm
getting hit across the temple for that. I have my
confidence back now. Now now I'm feeling good. Yes, I
(11:03):
can say good things about the Knicks, and oh boy,
what a great what a great competition. Hey, hey, what a
great series. Let's give a big round of applugs the
next and I'll look at the players here who want
to continue to troll the Knicks and Knicks fans look
at I'm gonna wear a Reggie Miller sweatshet and I'm
Tyre's halliburt and Reggie Miller continuing to troll the Knicks.
They went from we are crying and moaning and complaining
like little kids sucking their thumb, laying on the ground.
(11:24):
But here, here's something to be quiet, and now it's
say here they are later Oh no no, and now
everything is fine. Yeah, no, no, no, everything is fine.
That's what pisses me off. But that that's how they
behave the entire series. And that's who we lost to.
We didn't lose to a team that beat the crap
out of us and won by twenty twenty five. And hey,
this is all we have to do. We're professional about it,
X Y and Z, because you know what, they're just
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mad at the fans. They're just mad at the fans,
not like Knicks players were saying anything during the playoffs,
not like Tom Thibodeau was saying anything in the playoffs.
The Pacers decided, oh, we're mad at the calls. We
don't like the fans, we don't like the x Nicks
that are a round that are around the floor, that
we don't like the atmosphere of Madison Square guarded had
whined and cried and cried and cried and cried, and
then it turns out they want oh and now everything
(12:05):
is okay. The only one crying here is you. So
that No, that's just that's just so unprofessional. That's just
so what you're doing is to No, it's I'm telling
you why I'm pissed off, man, I'm telling you why
I feel I Joey Tribaan, I'm telling you why. Chandler
tell your as we did. We lost in seven games?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Yeah, by how many okay, okay, six and seven were
like blowouts.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
How many playoff games did you win? Frostburg, we're talking
about the I'm not talking about Minimuim would tell me
how my team is not good and they're not good
and they made it way.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
You haven't won a championship since nineteen seventy, way further
than your team nineteen seventy three, nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Same thing, but it was you weren't even that was
in my lifetime. I was poor.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
No no nos broke up seventy the last nick.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I was born. I was alive for that one. I
wasn't alive for the first METS one or the first
next one. But I was alive for that one. I
was alive. I did not watch Phil Jackson on my
screen on tape delay, but I was alive for it.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
But again, the point as let me do this for
you here, justin so he doesn't come in and try
to choke you up. Is the shows today, the game
was this weekend. He's got nothing to do with his squad,
and they're in ability.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
He's only because he's saying things that are and true.
Your team is bad. You lost, you know he's doing that. No,
they lost my twenty one and then he's trying.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Well, you're out here saying that they went as far
as they could.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You said they were going to the finals. Yeah, well
when they all started getting hurt and then it wasn't.
And I told you from the beginning of the series,
I hope they have enough to win this series they made.
I said that from the beginning of this series. I
can go back to the tape and find exactly where
I just finished with your car. So, man, you don't
got to stop because you can't cut. I'm trying to
make it. You don't make salient points.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
It's the nixt It's brilliance is that you're wearing a
white son there just because they're wearing it was.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
A white Sox shirt today, that's like good. I'm gonna
like trip and fall off in my chair right now
because I'm close to you wearing a white Sox. Terrible.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I stipulate to that. And they've been terrible for a
very long time. And now you got one of the
new broadcasters fighting with the guys on the race video station.
It's absurd. But for Rick Carlisle, what are you doing?
You're trying to get calls? And did he take it
to an extreme with the.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
But that's what you do. That's what you do.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
And you know, Phil Jackson might have done it more
eloquently back in the but then he stopped the guys.
Then he stopped he does, so everything was getting officiated
right then. No, there were no change at that point,
and there's no point to fight it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
At that point.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
You've said your piece and then you win four out
of five, including two blowouts, and so that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You did. You did your job. He just cried and
now everything everything is all. Isn't that what everybody does?
I mean, that's that's society. Isn't it complain complaint?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
All right?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You kissed my ass. Now I'm good and you go.
I have to like it, and I didn't like it.
I didn't like it at all.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
That's all I'm trying to do is put the mother
to my muscope up to say we all do it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So I met.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So when you're at home and you didn't get enough
of a big dish, why are you mad?
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You should not be mad. Your team didn't do anything.
My team lost.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
You.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
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Speaker 1 (16:11):
I didn't know that we needed this quarterback controversy, but
apparently we're gonna get something like maybe people in Philadelphia
are just bored the Sixers being out of the playoffs,
but a couple of crazy reports on on social media
that potentially the Eagles are looking at some sort of
situation where they can run Kenny Pickett into games and
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Jalen Hurts and he will share the field. At the
same time, other reports Picket is playing better in OTAs
than than than Jalen Hurts. And I'm saying to myself,
there's no way this stuff is. There's no way Jalen.
Why why is that Jalen Hurts is? How could read?
Speaker 9 (16:51):
Well?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, first of all, how can you can't lose your job?
You can't be being outperformed in OTAs when you're Jalen Hurts.
I don't know how that happens. But here's what you
can be. But you can't. Okay, I mean you came
in really out. You're throwing lefty.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I mean, come on, man, suddenly your accuracy is completely
up and we watched the second half collapse.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I just I just can't believe this. I can't believe this,
mainly for one reason. There's one reason I can't believe
And it all boils down one reason. Right, Remember again,
this is a lot of things, right. Is he outperforming
Jalen Hurts? Are they gonna put Kenny Pickett on the field?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
All of these coming off a very tough season before
Hurts for Sirianni and new coordinators, everything they had going
on in Philly.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
But you can boil it down to one thing. Yeah,
I could buy it. There's one thing that makes me
think this is not real, that this is just something
fabricated enough for whatever reason, because people I can't believe it. No, no, no, no, no,
no no. Not that.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Maybe you're trying to stir it up a little bit.
Something can get a great reaction in an interview. I
am going to get more concrete than that. It's not
it's not gonna be And you don't need to speculate
anything thoughts not no, not a Jerry Jones teaches us
the great Literature of Shakespeare that we were discussing a
little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'd go back to college for that class. By the way,
a fellow, it wasn't that a game in the seventies
you had you had the black and white chips. He
turned over and tried to win. That wasn't that what
that was all about? And Iago wasn't wasn't he the
parrot in the in the in the Aladdin movie wasn't
even parent. It was on the shoulder of the guy.
Wasn't that what? All?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Boils one reason why I can't believe this. There's one
reason why I can't believe that.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
If we ask our guys if they can guess the reason, Yeah,
you guys want to guess what the one thing.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Is why I can't believe that Kenny Pickett is a
outperforming Jalen Hurts a training camp or b. They're actually
looking to get Kenny Pickett on the field with Jalen Hurts.
At the same time. There's one, very concrete one reason
you don't have to what's the reason you think it is?
Don't overthink it.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
I have to say it's because you don't have a
jersey of him. M I don't have a jersey a
lot of people, but okay, that's that's probably the most prominence.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
And also you probably have money on it. Okay, money
does make decisions, Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Mind, there's no question about it.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
It's like indecision clouds your vision, like faith, no more
saying all those years ago.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh that's pretty good. I was gonna sy you should
put on the T shirt. But it's already Yeah, it's
falling to pieces of faith no more? Right, And I R,
what do you got?
Speaker 7 (19:15):
What?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
What do you think? What could the reason be?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Want to say?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Maybe because he never played for the Jets? Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
All right, well, I mean again, I mean they're they're
thinking about it a little harder. Yeah, now, now let's
go to the principles involved. Yes, Salen hurts Kenny pick
How would you describe the play of Kenny Pickett last year?
If you were to boil it down to the basis term,
you could possibly come up with.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Bad. Well, you're on the right right track. You're on
the right track, because say it. The correct answer is
why I can't believe any of this is because Kenny
Picket stinks. This is why I can't believe it. He stinks.
There's a reason why the Steelers wouldn't keep him. There's
a reason why he's a backup. And if you're the
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Eagles and you want to put him on the field,
you're insane. That's why I can't believe get it.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Because he's maybe getting away from the ineptitude of the
offensive coordinators that have been employed in Pittsburgh. Freeze, can
he pick it up?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No? No, no, no, no. Maybe is a wizard.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
No, no, see Jason. Maybe he just liked his eggs
a certain way and the chef wasn't a fan. Uh
could be a very picky guy.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
No, my uncle used to Okay, if you went out
with him like that would be the number one thing
he would complain about can't even get my bleep and
he bleeping eggs the way I want him, and he'd
be salty. He'd start cursing out the weight Stad like
it was problem.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
My dad's kind of like that, like when you go
out to dinner with him, like there's always something it's like,
this is and the biggest, the biggest uh bit of
of of praise he could have. Dad, How was your
food That wasn't bad? That means it's like one of
the greatest things you ever taste in your life.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
He likes Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Yeah, better than he he liked
Latrobe wasn't bad? Uh No, no, Latrobe. Latrob is Rolling Rock. Well,
it's Saint Vincent College they do their training camp. No, no,
I mean but rolling the Rolling Rock is yeah thirty
three Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, no, No. This boils down to Kenny Pickett stinks.
Well maybe maybe Jalen Hurts had that one year. Now,
all of a sudden, East, they're popping champagne right now,
going hey, they're gonna hurt something.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
The NFC East if you were described describe those squads,
and we boiled it down to one thing. Yeah, Ian,
you want to take another crack of this. What do
you think about the teams in the NFC East.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Bad very good Ian, very good man is consistent but
not stealing my catch right? They stink.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Can you imagine just talked about Jerry and the Cowboys
and you got the giants trying to figure out, I
mean they're selling me.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Daniel Jones is on the field. Can you imagine just
off wheels. Can you imagine like week two, Daniel Jones
versus Kenny Pickett. Let's go on, what are we doing?
What what are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Celebrate all to seventy two week? That would be one
of them, that would be that would be might be
seventy two. Oh no, I t sixties to be down there,
at least the two fifties. If you're ranking one through
two seventy two, that's a two sixties.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's another chot we've taken on. Guys.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Yeah, we're gonna start printing out the sheets ranking one
through two seventy two.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
This idea. I like that idea. We gotta do that.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
But legitimately, I mean you're looking at Jalen Hurts. There
were a lot of people jumping off that bandwagon pretty fast.
The end of last year, you had the infighting with
aj Brown, you had all of that going on the coordinators. Clearly,
they acclimated well in the first half, and then it
fell apart. The only thing that saved them from national
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ridicule was how bad things got down in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Okay, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. However, However,
if you're gonna push Jalen Hurts to the side, bring
in somebody who what doesn't stink. That's what you need
to do. You gotta bring in somebody who's actually good.
But maybe he can't bring somebody ex Steeler now good.
That's not a phrase. If he was on the Jets
(23:11):
and then went somewhere, it would be ex Jet now good.
Maybe he maybe he can be that. No he can't.
I've watched him. I've watched him. I've watched him. Cleared
his mind.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
He went and saw what was what was the doctor's
name that fixed Danny Rojas after he killed that dog?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Oh doctor Fieldstone.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah, sure, maybe he saw someone equivalent to her and
now football is life.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
No he no, no, no, he's no, he stinks. He stinks.
If the power of the Steelers fans who tried to
prop him up. I did. If they could have powers
of karma going into Kenny Pickett, if that didn't make
him good, nothing's good. He stinks. He's not good. He's
not good. And if this what they want to put
him on the field, I'll tell you everybody else is
(23:56):
going to have a party going. Oh man, look at this.
Look forget about jayalen her it's his fall from grace.
For a second. You decided we're gonna put Kenny Pickett
out there versus drunken Eagle fans. That's I want to see.
That's like, we're gonna fight about this. We're gonna fight
about Pickett versus anybody you want to fight about. This
is gonna crossroads, which is pats Ands and whoever wins,
(24:17):
whoever wins gets a free copy of season one Mayor
of Eastown, that's what'll do that. It's on the line
for this time. Wins was really good. See what they're
gonna make Mayor of Eastown season two? I think they should.
They're gonna have a crossover with Mayor of Eastown and
Mayor of Kingstown. It's gonna be great. Him and Jeremy Renner,
he and Jeremy renderd it's gonna be fantastic. Hawky. Yes,
he's gonna be hawkeye and he's got to be hawk.
I thought he would be hawkeyed. You know, I'm really
glad to see him back on this. I thought he
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was and stuff Again. I thought he was an archer mayor.
I thought that's a pretty cool thing. Just how about
that for a show mayor who's also an archer fighting crime? Like,
how about that? I'm in for that? Yeah, right, all right?
What's his signature? We got Jerry Jones, He Jerry Jones
teaching high school English and Jeremy Renner as a as
(24:59):
a as an archer mayor. I mean, how great is that?
When when I can't when I when I can't legislate,
I do it myself. The proclamation suddenly appeared high on
this post.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Here's this banner unfurled, here's the guy's on the edge
of it, a giant era.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Here's a guy running for mayor against me, and suddenly
he walks out of the campaign stop and then sunk,
just gets an arrow through the back. What made you
think it was me? What are you talking me? You
have a quiver around the back. No, and you're wearing
a mask. Nobody saw me do it. You nobody saw
it that many people walk around with quivers and mats
just because I didn't shoot the guy with an arrow
did he's running against me for mayor vote vote Renner.
(25:37):
I did not do that. It's not me.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
It's got a flag, it says Renner, attached to it
as you.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I cannot. But that's why I can't believe the Kenny
Pigott rooms.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Cause great though, come on, does that gives us some
spice from the offseason Philadelphia, the fans up in a
little bit up in arms, and maybe take a little
bit of attention from all these guys that are suddenly
jumping on the bear.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It will be good.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
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Speaker 1 (26:12):
For the first time, we had the Chief's answer about
their opinions for Harrison, Butker, we had Patrick Mahomes talk
about it and say, listen, I go by the teammate
the guy is, and I don't agree with particularly everything
he says, but I go by the teammate he's been
and who he is here for the last seven years.
(26:32):
And then Andy Reid was asked about the opinion a
more pointed question, and here's Andy Reid's response about what
he said or hasn't said to the chiefs after Bucker's
comments with so many women just.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Plun staff here and in the building, give I mean
his comments kind of touched on one that you work
for U. So I mean, what do you tell them
if they come to you with a concern about clear
speaking all of you know, women and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, that hasn't happened. I don't think you're speaking ill
of women, but his opinions and we already expect that.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I let you guys in this room, and you have
a lot of opinions that I don't like.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Oh, I didn't know was Andy Reid's call to let
people in. I didn't. I thought that was an NFL thing.
Andy Reid decided what reporters get in.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I don't know. We've had people excise people from their
room saying you're out of here. Yeah, you don't subscribe
to my podcast, so beat it. I mean, come on,
We've had a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Here's some nuggies and listen to my podcast. But there's
two takeaways from this, Right, There's one thing I would
have really liked to see in One thing that it
would have been smart to see is that, you know
we've talked about Harrison Bucker. Was this something that you
that you kick him off the team for you? No,
this is a guy giving his opinion. And the main
thing with when stuff like this happens is that people
(27:46):
like freedom of speech, but they don't like freedom, but
they they also want freedom from responsibility, which is what
people have to say in response to that. Right, Harrison
Bucker said them things that were wildly unpopular, stuff that
that I can't believe. He said that, I'm like, why
are you talking about the president? Why are you talking
about dangerous parts of religion? What the hell is wrong
with you? Man?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Like?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
What do you do with anathic school? He thought he
has had kindred spirits and that's what he spoke to.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, but but wow, man, I mean that's where you
want to go to. That's a this is a day
that college kids are graduating about. Right. So what I
would have liked to see because hey, we talk about
freedom of speech and how hey he can say what
he says, I really would have liked some of the Chiefs,
and and Patrick Mahomes disagrees with stuff, and Andy Reid disagrees.
I would have liked to see somebody one of them say, hey,
(28:32):
I disagree with what he said. Women should be able
to do whatever they want to do in the world,
or you know, I don't don't. I don't think this
is the place to talk about religion or when you
want to take on politically when you're doing that, I
really because that's because that's okay, right, You're okay to
give your opinion. It's okay to say you disagree with
Harrison Butker and say why right, that's a thing that
I would have liked to see because I like to
(28:54):
see the other side of it. Because now the smart
thing would be to do something like that, because you
know why, because that takes the temperature of this whole
thing down, right. Instead the Chiefs, and we told you
what the Chiefs organization is like. They want to put
their head in the sand when anything controversial comes up,
and it's just as long as you can play, you
can play for us. Right. They take the NFL back
(29:14):
twenty five years. Tyreek Hill or she Rice doesn't matter,
no suspensions, know nothing. Whatever happens, you play for us.
But if Andy Reid said, look, I just want to
tell you I want you know, I want my wife
to be able to do whatever she wants to. I
want my relev I want I want that to happen.
That's the way things should be in this world. If
you give the other side of it and say listen,
we're not you know, denying that this is a controversial
(29:36):
thing that he said. What that does is that takes
the temperature down across the board because instead of having
all kinds of petitions out there for let's get rid
of Harrison Butker and this being a story. Okay, people understand,
all right, he had his opinion. Andy Reid said this,
or Patrick Mahomes said this, or somebody else said this. Now, okay,
is it really that big a deal? Can we move
(29:57):
on from this? But instead, because the chiefs to say,
we don't want to talk about it all, No, clearly
Harrison Butker has no problem. So I think giving the
other side of it, I think that helps. Right. That's
what we see all the time now, not that it's
about politics, but when something happens for one side of
the aisle. The other side of the aisle has a response, right,
and it's important that we have those checks and balances
that whether you agree or disagree with either side, Hey,
(30:19):
this side has this to say. Okay, that takes the
temperature down, no matter what, it takes the temperature down.
And that could have been a really good thing today.
But instead read mahomes All said, Yeah, I really don't
want to get into it. No, I think you can
get into it. I think you can help the situation
out a little bit, because all this does is just
let it fester and oh boy, here's Butker And now
what's going on with the team. What's happening here? What's
(30:40):
the deal is he?
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Here?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Is he having trouble with his teammates? Just a little
bit of acknowledging, Hey, I disagree, and here's what I
think about it. That would have been a really smart
thing to take this controversy go okay. Now it was
in a really high boil. Now it can get down
to a simmer and we can get onto football at
some point after.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, I mean you and I have disagree read on this,
and we can go back in the You can check
the audio tape in our our podcast wherever you find
audio and download it, give it five stars and tell
me you love me or hate me. I can take
it at Swollen Dome. With the Rice thing, right, I mean,
the the second part of that's now done, right, I asked,
don't don't press charges?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Is the guys even though he might have gotten rope
a dooped and into hey, come back here and gotten
punched and all that seems like that one's gonna go away.
And you know, again we disagreed on that. With the
Butcker thing, I don't know whether there's a win if
they were to go and call him out, if does
that become a bigger thing in the locker room, if
(31:42):
it goes further? I mean all it did, really, I
mean it because they spoke today folks that didn't get
to chime in last week, whether they were on vacation
or on and off day or whatever. It got a
little bit of run from there, right because you had
the headlines of this guy, that guy, the other guy
or a woman said thank you to Harrison Butker again,
(32:02):
you know, just one more time with emphasis. I guess
you know, if you're my homes and and Andy Reid,
you know Reid gets a little snarky with the reporters,
but to the point of we've got a locker room
with guys that have differing opinions on an awful lot
of things. And again the butker which whichever side you
fall on, Like I, I know it. I remember it
(32:25):
from my family. Right, my ex is a very powerful engineer.
My family said the PhD was nice. Now that you
have kids, you're going to stay home.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Point of contention, point of issue. I can speak from
it from firsthand experience. Alluded to it last week. You
know that that goes back to you know, depending on
how you're brought up, that that still you know exists
and in this case said hey, you can have successful careers,
but let me tell you about motherhood, and then tried
to sell motherhood. Is how I read it. I understand
(32:58):
if folks who are upset about it, but for reading
from a homes I don't know how much of a
win it is if they go in and they start
to enumerate the different things that they disagree with.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
It's it doesn't need to be something that okay, it
just hey, I understand and this is what I think.
If you don't think it's if you don't just if
you disagree with stuff, just say why. Like I said,
it down, it calms the contract because it's a huge controversy.
It's all anybody wanted to talk about today. You think
they want to get back to playing football. Of course
they do. Andy and Salty disagree and resulting can I
(33:34):
talk now if you're worried? Can I finish my sentence?
Andy Reid as we as you said, as quoting you,
Andy Reid gets salty with the press. Why it's not
their fault. I mean, they're they're asking questions about this,
but now he's made a combative when and this is
a story that's now going to continue to fester where
it could have gone away. Because if you talk about
something generally, if you talk about something, everybody, everybody's okay
(33:54):
about it. When you don't talk and you don't address it,
stuff festers when you don't. When you don't address any
sort of situation in a room, it gets out of
control and it doesn't work. This would have been an
easy thing to just say, okay, here is okay. Guess
what the chiefs talked about it the first day they finished.
They said what they said, We got the opinions of Mahomes,
we got the opinions of Andy Reid and said today
we just got yeah, we don't talk about it. Oh okay, great,
(34:17):
So now we really got no resolution when we could
have gotten a resolution. That's my point.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
All he said was, hey, he's been a good teammate.
He's good in the locker room. Right, we've got Mahomes
on file from the past saying they don't talk right.
I don't know if that owed into like they have
differing accounts on everything else. He didn't give us much
clarity there but that they don't seem to talk a
lot other than hey, go make this forty eight yard kick.
(34:42):
We need you, right, And from a team perspective, you're
gonna disagree with guys and their lifestyles and about a
lot of different things. In this case, I don't know
that I agree that there would have been a win
because at this point it's asked and answered, like are
they going to keep bringing it up?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Well, if they do, it was asked, but it wasn't.
It was just asked and blown off like that's not
asked and answered that that's asked and blown off. That
think that's a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Well, in their minds, they've now answered the question. And
I got to guarantee you the next time they go
to a podium, if someone asks, it's going to be
that's already been addressed. Bill Belichick Lives.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
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Speaker 1 (35:32):
Speaking of Charles Barkley inside the NBA, so much talk
today about how it's now a FATA complete TNT is
going to be losing the NBA. A big article today
that the negotiations are going to be finished sometime in
the next couple of days.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
And.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
ESPN a NBC are going to be the new big
homes of the NBA, and TNT is not going to
have the basketball package that they've had for the past
few years. ESPN has what's called the A package and
TNT has the B package, which of course is inside
the NBA games during the week and everything else. Now,
(36:10):
everything we saw today, we've seen the last few days,
is the negotiations are happening. They are you know, they're
likely gonna be done by the end of the week
and you've seen a lot of Hey boy, inside, the
NBA is gonna go away, and that's gonna be so sad.
And Charles Barkley has talked about it very you know,
very openly about how, look this sucks and and and
(36:31):
and you know, we don't know what the future is
gonna be and all of these things, and he's right, right,
it does suck. It's sucks, you know, it sucks for
any time that people lose sports. And you don't know
what you think of people behind the scenes. I hope
they can all keep gigs job somewhere. But the bottom
line is, it looks like TNT is gonna lose the
NBA and they're not gonna have games, which means the
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NBC is gonna have a big package. They want to
have what's called the Sunday Night Basketball Night in America,
playing off the Sunday Night Football Night in America. They're
gonna a big NBA game on Sunday Night, just like
when when the NFL season ends, just like they did
during the football season. Amazon, you know, can get involved
on some things. So it looks like it's coming to
the end of an era. But for all of this,
(37:12):
talk to inside the NBA is gonna go away. Okay,
First of all, it's not happening. Okay, this is still
the gold standard show. This is still a show that
everybody wants to see. This is not a show that's
been past its expiration date. This is a show that
could run forever if they wanted it to. They change personalities,
a couple of personalities. We've in and out every few years.
Shack has certainly stayed the longest time to team up
(37:34):
with with with Kenny and Charles, you know were we
had a few years of Chris Weber and other people
in there, but inside the NBA with them and Ernie
Johnson the host, it has been the gold standard of television,
of sports television shows, pregame shows, postgame shows. People tune
in just to watch them when there's a bad NBA game.
Oh yeah, what's the game. What's what's the game tonight?
Well it's Sacramento and Detroit. Let's see what they say
(37:55):
after the game. And they have an extra long post
game just because hey, you guys got to say something,
and people pay attention. It's still that great at show.
It's not going away. It's simply going to be something different,
whether Amazon, who has all kinds of money. They can
make it happen. ESPN has wanted some of these guys
for a long time. They can make it happen and
(38:15):
bring the Inside the NBA team to ESPN. This is
still going to exist now. The big domino is going
to be, of course, Ernie Johnson, because he has talked
about how he doesn't want to go someplace else. Charles
Barkley said today, maybe he's going to retire now. A
lot of this could be posturing. You don't know er
Ernie Johnson think it's going to be seventy may want
to retire. But it also could be, oh, you want
(38:37):
me to host the show. You're gonna be twenty five
million dollars a year. Yeah, I can do Inside the
NBA on Amazon or ESPN. So it could be a
negotiating ploy. It could be real that he might not
want to go. But it's not like these guys aren't
going to be together in some way, shape or form
doing the show. It's just gonna be different. If it's
Ernie Johnson hosting it, great, If it's not, somebody else
(38:58):
will come in and do the show, because that's just
kind of how things go right, just like a TV
show when people leave and other people. When stars leave,
other stars come in to take their place, and the
show goes on and we argue whether or not the
show is better or worse with the guy taking over.
I mean, it's not all the time you're taking over
for Steve Carell in the office, but sometimes you are.
So it's still gonna be around. It's still gonna be
a show that's on somewhere. It's just like I said,
(39:20):
maybe it's the same, maybe it's a little bit different.
Maybe it's a maybe it's a maybe it's it's somewhat different,
but it's still gonna be those guys talking basketball still
with the relationships they have, still the people that they
talk about on the set. They'll still have Draymond Green
on with them. Maybe there's one. Maybe Ernie Johnson's there.
Maybe it's not. But we're gonna get inside the NBA.
The show is not just gonna die and go away.
(39:41):
It's not happening.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Yeah, I mean you have to decide. Are you a
Robert California guy? Are you a D'Angelo Vickers guy. I mean,
I mean you can go either way.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I mean, look that you know, and they didn't really
replace him when you think about it, they didn't really
replace Steve Carrell with anything like, oh remember that was
Who's gonna replace Steve Carrell. I liked the little bit
they did with Ray Romano when he was eating the sandwich.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
All the couple of random actors pop in for an
episode or two. Yeah, uh yeah, I mean you had
your vase pop in for a minute. You don't know,
I mean, obviously you were thinking about Spin City as well.
Michael J. Fox tags out Charlie Sheen. Charlie Sheen tags
out of two and a half men. Did you like
Ashton Kutcher?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Maybe you did, maybe you didn't, but either way, uh,
Shelley long leaves cheers, Kirsty Alley shows up like it happens.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Boom, Right, Show, Show Must go On, Right, Partner's Move
shows change all of those things. And for these guys, yeah,
I mean the core, it would be great to have
them together. I don't know if you uh was there
video of Barkley? Was he standing there holding a giant
bag with a dollar sign as he made his comments.
I don't know if Erdie's coming back, but if you
(40:50):
want no, you know this triggers you know my contract
would be up and no and void and all this stuff.
So yeah, again hoping that because of part part of
it is the on on camera. Obviously those guys are
the faces of it all, but behind the scenes it
has to work, right, There's a decided difference, uh, in
(41:10):
any show, in an entertainment process, when a producer is
out or you lose some of your your support, writing staff, editors, camera,
like all of those things. So hopefully they're they they're
look they get looked out for and and taken a
with wherever uh this next entity is. But you know,
dollars and cents and schedules and you know, opportunities. Right,
(41:34):
Charles lost that show he was doing in the afternoons
or whatever the hell that was the political slash social thing. Uh,
that's done. Will there be another iteration of that?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Maybe? Maybe not?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
But between he Kenny Smith and and of course uh Shack,
I mean, Shack's had got his hand in a in
a million things. Who knows, maybe he ends up being
the coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Uh, all opportunity, everything's on the table. But if it's done,
then we had one hell of I mean, how long
was it like twenty years.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I think more than that.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
I was twenty five. I mean, like something like that
is like ninety nine, almost as long as it was
between Nick's big series.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know, No, it was longer than that, because I
remember when I was at ESPN as a production assistant.
Tim Kyley was ESPN producers. I worked with a lot.
I did it, worked on a lot of his shows.
I told you a great, great dude. He left ESPN
like when I was still there in like when I
was approached like in like ninety five ninety six to
(42:36):
go to to go to Turner, to go do to
go do football and inside the NBA. So I think
it's longer than that.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Actually, yeah, So, I mean you're looking at this long
history and obviously a lot of huge moments and highlights,
and and in all of their speaking points, they they've
all kind of referenced it. Right. You had that great
pregame clip that was making the rounds of Ernie Johnson
talking to Kyrie Irving who joined them after their Game
one win. But you know, you could see it on
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Ernie's face. You know, there's some as he was happy
to see Kyrie, but clearly he was being asked about
the process and what they've got going on based on
the news from today, weighs heavy. No question about a
guy in his late sixties, been doing this forever, a
company guy, and and that's his baby, and I think
(43:26):
he stirs the drink and if he wants to to
rally to the next spot, I think it would be
fairly easy because I mean, what executives not saying, what's
the checkbook? How big is the check got to be?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
That's a place like Amazon that's like a we can
do it, like because ESPN is like, boy, that's a
lot of money, Like you're gonna have to shot, you
have to give those guys. That's he just gave it
all to Stephen A. Smith.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Ye, Shannon Sharps.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
So you're you're, you're in the high hundreds of millions
of dollars. That's why I think something like Amazon where
it's like hundreds of million, Yeah, well we could do
that today. What do you need? You know? We got
the money?
Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yeah, in between hot takes underneath you're you're you're selling
blenders and alcohol.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Jason, Yeah, what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (44:09):
I think people are saying it's the end of inside
the NBA strictly because of Ernie Johnson.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, but but you don't know if he's leading.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
We do know though, Yeah, he's a very loyal man. Yeah,
he said he's going to stay in the TNT family. Okay,
we have to take him out his word.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Okay, No, I'm not saying that that that he's not
So it's not.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
Show inside the NBA only works with Ernie Johnson as
the host.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
But here's the thing. Say, Amazon says, Hey, all right,
we have thirty million dollars a year for each of you.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Think it's about the money.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
For but what I'm saying is and for these guys
that he spent so much time with to go do
a couple of years for them, Hey, for Charles and
Shaq and Kenny. They want the show to go well.
And look, Ernie Johnson gets a lot of credit because
why because he's someone that the four of them when
they're all on the set, that they all listen to right,
and they pay it. They don't just steamroll him. That
(45:00):
he's able to run the show and run the ship.
And that's pretty valuable because the next host they could
put in, they might just talk right over walk right
over them, just like kind of Lebron and ad walk
over her as coach for the Lakers, like they want
somebody in there. Sorry, too soon, They want somebody in there.
They want Ernie there because they want it to be
that show they want. They don't want to have to
worry about, Well, we have these guys. We're giving them
a lot of money. It's really not working because we
(45:22):
have a new host in and then people aren't watchings.
It's not the same thing. No, whoever buy gets that
and wants that show to succeed. They're gonna do all
they can to bring all of them together.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
But would overlap with his MLB coverage on TNT, Yeah,
I remember he's the studio host for that as well.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, but I think they I think if they really
want him, when I'm sure an entity would, they would
come up with things they can do that he could
do if he wants to leave and go again. It's
all part of negotiations, man, It's all part back to
the fun and exciting world that we've had. Well, we
had in Chicago right where Bennetti who's now gone off
to the Tigers. He was the White Sox guy. But
(46:02):
guess what he gives me?
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Well, and now and now the new guy like, not
me because the team stinks and has hurt again. But
the new guy is fighting with all the radio people
in Chicago, calling them losers. Bad bad, bad idea. You're
learning on the job, you're making mistakes, just wear it.
It'll be okay. But Benetti left and but he still
(46:29):
is going to do the same thing with the Tigers.
He's missing He like, he missed several games already in
the first month to go do spring football for Fox. Right,
he was on the Ohio State and on the Michigan calls,
So you know it's.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
All right, Well, you've got this job and we love you.
But yes, obviously there's carve outs and ways you can
work contracts. I think there can be a solution reach
so everybody gets fed and we get a lot of
hugs from Erdie Johnson.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
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Speaker 1 (47:08):
Look, Anthony Edwards tonight is having a fine game, right,
He's not having an overly great game. He's got thirteen
points nine rebound, six assists. He's not shooting particularly well.
He's got a couple of threes, you know, going into
this finals and from here on out. The one thing
that that is top of mind with him now after
(47:28):
the last couple of weeks is that, Wow, everybody is
trying so hard to make him happen. I mean, it is,
it is, Gretchen Wieners. I'm gonna keep saying fetch until
somebody picks it up, right, Like, everybody's trying so hard
to make Anthony Edwards Superstar happen. He's Michael Jordan, he says,
he's being Mac Jones. You know everything you see, all
(47:50):
the coverage of the Western Conference Finals, all the cover
of the Timber. Oh, he's just look at what he's doing,
Look at what do Yeah, Anthony Edwards is a fantastic player,
but all of a sudden, he's Michael Jordan. I mean,
come on, man, let's to stop right, let's stop with
that for a second. If it's meant to be for
him and he's meant to be next and he's meant
to be speak superstar, we're gonna see it, right. But
coming off of Game seven, going into this game, what
(48:11):
did you see, hey, Anthony Edwards, Let's ignore the fact
he shot six or twenty four in Game seven. Let's
just say but defensively, the game they had, you know,
it's all five guys defensively, it's not just Anthony Edwards
and what he did in other aspects of the game.
It's like, Okay, we're moving the goalpost just so we
can always say incredible things about Anthony Edwards. And you
know what, sometimes the guy has a bad game. Sometimes
(48:33):
he's a little bit invisible, kind of like he's been
tonight for long stretches. In this game, right, he's not
nearly the high scorer, and other guys are having big games,
and defensively, Dallas is playing. Dallas has been able to
do what they needed to do against their defense so far.
But it's like to the point where I feel like
he's being mac Jones, where he's all of a sudden,
(48:54):
we need him to fill this role. We need him
to fill the role of who is next, because we
don't have that who's next superstar. Jalen Brunson's not physical enough.
He doesn't dunk. He's smart and he's crafty and he's quick,
and I don't like it because it's not something I
could go wow about. So here's Anthony Edwards and everything
you see is awe, look hout, he's Jordan. He's like,
hang on a second. He's a really good player and
(49:15):
he's accomplished a lot by the time he's twenty two. Right,
he is the guy coming out of college he was
pretty good, he stayed pretty good. He's gotten even better.
He's gonna be a terrific player for a long time.
But wow, trying to make this happen. I mean, just
coming off of Game seven, I said, there's nothing the
guy can do. If the guy if he shoots one
for thirty in a game, but his bucket happens to
(49:36):
come in the final four minutes, it's gonna be And
Anthony Edwards, what are you gonna say about that one bucket? Man? Hey,
the other twenty nine shots he missed, but look at
that big hoop he made with less than four minutes
left to go. It's like they're pushing so much to
make Anthony Edwards happen. The media is doing it, the
fan is doing it, and I'm like, you know what
this is where if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen,
even as traps say, hey, we'll see you guys back
(49:58):
here in game seven. That's some of the most benign
trash talk. But yet it's been thrown out there like
he guaranteed a win in front of the entire press
corps and and the world after again, we're gonna win.
We're down three, is that we're gonna win this series?
Like there's so much trying to make him happen that
there's nothing he can do that's going to be judged
as Ah, maybe he should have played better, he should
(50:18):
have done this, and instead of just letting him happen,
it's it's it's the mac Jones situation all over again. Well,
I think he's gonna have a much better career than
mac Jones is it's I mean, that's what that's what
I see with this and now where he is at
after the last couple of weeks going into the Western
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The next played against the Pacer team. As McConnell puts
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in NBA playoff history.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The Indiana Pacers are in the Eastern Conference Finals. See
if the Pacers win decisively one hundred and thirty to
one hundred and nine, the first time in this series
so that the home team did not win.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Welcome into the Knicks Roast, Go New York, Go Yeah,
and the deposed Edwin Diaz.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I mean, it's all everything swirling into the fift ring
of hell. Hi, Jason, we love you, come it hold off.
Remember in Billy Madison, Steve a Shemy had that label. Yeah,
none of you guys are getting crossed off it none
(01:23):
of you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I'm not gonna put lipstick on. Listen to crying game now.
None of you guys are getting crossed off. You should
have called us. You guys are all on on that list.
You guys are all you should have on the list.
Although I will say it was Ken genius in the
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had a good run the next flame, love Steven, Remember
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Speaker 4 (01:48):
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Speaker 2 (02:12):
The season's over.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Remember with Us?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I did like that impression with Devinchenz. It was pretty
good there.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That worked. Look, look, I'm honest. Nothing is to now
there is something that really pisses me off. But for
the Knicks, really no, no, but for the Knicks. For
the Knicks, I'm fine, I'm fine, And this is not
this is not me. This is not me saying hey,
(02:45):
I'm fine, I'm really no, I really am fine. I
told you from the beginning it's a magic carpet ride.
The season was gonna end. It was like a horror movie.
Every ten minutes in a horror movie, somebody gets killed.
Every game and a half that the place, somebody gets
hurt and gets knocked out. Of course, Jalen Brunson broke
his hand reaching in for a steal. Of course, Brunson
(03:06):
broke out.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And now when that happened, at some point, you just
have to start cackling like your your Max Katie in
the movie theater came here.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You it knew a very weird.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, I was at that point where it happened. Was
Brunson's out. Go alec Perks, keep shooting threes. Come on,
alec Perks, keep shooting threes. Keep shooting threes. They'll build
a statue for you, my friend, Now build it. Uh. No,
I told you it was gonna end. I was hoping
they would have enough, and they didn't. Everybody was hurt.
You saw Ananobe tried to play he could and Josh
(03:42):
Hart wasn't the same. And then Brunson breaks his hand
like a foss A.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Pacers also shot like they were, you know, the world
champion at a Papa shot at Chucky.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
No one shot that will in a playoff game in
NBA history, in history, in history, you don't. He went
Randy Savage off the top rope with the book. But
you lost to five guys and TJ mccaus. You're gonna say,
TJ Max, Look, it was going to happen. Okay, it
(04:14):
was gonna happen. Now was gonna happen the next round
against the Celtics. What kind of there's It's not like
I can look back and go, oh, they blew it
or all they they were supposed to do this and
they didn't. They went as far as they could go.
This was an overachieving team that got as far as
it could win. Four of their top eight guys in
the rotation got knocked out for the season, and then
(04:35):
two more guys got hurt in the last game, like
there was nobody left. Man, there was nobody, and you
got and you lost with it again, no one has
shot that well in the history of the NBA playoffs.
Came out there and gave it the old college try
a three. He's out of the game. He could he
couldn't he could move, He couldn't move. He couldn't move.
He try.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I mean, I appreciated seeing it in warm ups and
getting that note you know on air yesterday, more inside,
all right, he's going to go through like there's there's
no way, Like you saw the first couple of times
he went to do anything like yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Not gonna They thought he will as read it, Eddie.
He just couldn't, you know, he wasn't Luca. He was
at least had Luca.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
No, that's true, you'd at least have that emotional lift
that everybody else would run up from. But again, your
opponent shot sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Sixty seven. I really wanted to shoot seventy eight to
kind of start the season, start starting to end with
like come full circle. Seventy eight calls were missed. We
shoot seventy eight percent in the final game. Uh, look,
there's nothing to criticize at all. But what am I
going to say? There's it's not in BACS. It was
out stuff. Frostburg. You've been out of the playoffs. I
feel you've be out of the playoffs for three years,
you're like walking through the desert trying to find a
(05:42):
way through the playoffs with the Lakers. It really just
comes back to the same old argument. Though as great
as Tom Thibodeau did and as well as this team played,
h and he's going to get an extension and and
became a full hero and the culture that's been built,
did he run them into the ground or were they
just a series of unfortunate events? No, you had Julius Randall,
(06:04):
it was series was unfortunate event. The only injury you
could say maybe was over it was and Unobe because
of the soft tissue injury that he had. Brunton put
his hand in to try to get a Okay, that happened.
I mean, who has a strained intercostal muscle? Nobody, It doesn't.
These are all fluke injuries. So again with the Knicks,
I am fine. I am happy with that. I am
(06:24):
so fortunate. The last three weeks it was so exciting.
It was just gonna happen. There's nothing they could have done.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Look, and this series really turned and I'm telling you
it turned on the Nemhard three at the miracle three
where he closed his eyes and threw it up at
the end of Game three, where the Knicks kind of
gave that one away. That was where the series turned
a little bit, because okay, here they are. It would
have been a tie game, Knicks chance to win most
likely to the free throw line. Maybe it's threes that
maybe it's over. But the guy makes a miracle three
(06:52):
from thirty one feet away. That kind of turned the series,
and Yacht gave the Pacers life, and the Pacers simply
outlasted the Knicks. They did that. It was just we're
gonna outlast them because they're gonna get exhausted. Guys are
going to keep getting hurt. Let's just keep playing and
eventually left. Nobody left. So there's nothing I could say
about the Knicks. Er I could say I wish they
would have done this, or man, I can't believe they
did this. I can't believe that. Even the play that
(07:13):
turned the series. Yeah, you have the worst player on
the floor with the ball thirty one feet from the
basket and all he can do is shoot. Yeah, you're
gonna give that up, and the guy made it, Like
what can you There's nothing to be done. It's a
hell of a step back. It's it's it's really weird
that I can look at the end of one on
my team in the playoffs and go there was nothing
to be done. They lost to a team that was deeper,
they were better, and they were healthier, and now they
(07:34):
move on. There's nothing. There's nothing I could do about it.
A couple of things that we need to discuss. First,
you know, there's a butt coming, but go ahead.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
But for everybody that was doing me, oh, I got
tired of it being Nick's in Nick's coverage whatever. It's like,
where's the better story. Where is there any story for
the Indiana Pacers that got you excitable? For the NBA,
for all coverage for people that are fans, grew up
in New York, went to a New y York school,
(08:01):
you know, all of those things that flow through. So
anybody doing the oh, it's too bad that they shouldn't
get the run, you know what, start giving it their
run now, because I garan, damn Tea, you didn't do
it this last series either, So stop complaining about the
Knicks coverage.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, it wasn't a bit much, but I'd.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Liked seeing my friend happy to a point, you know,
I mean, it's one of those because you're jealous because
my team stinks, and that's the way it goes. I mean,
Zach Levine right now has the NBA. He is the
leader of the guy with the worst winning percentage as
a player with five hundred games played, thirty seven thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's how much his team wins.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So anybody that's doing the oh, we should have talked
about Indiana more or you should have done that. Like
you didn't talk about Indiana. Don't try to sell me
that you did unless you were talking about Reggie Miller
hitting a shot. You didn't talk about Indiana as it
rolled out for twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Now for the Knicks, may they were fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Like they were team that everybody could embrace because it
was the blue collar go to work, put in your
forty minutes or forty four whatever Thibodeau was going to require.
And you rolled through and unfortunately you just saw the
wheels come off one after another. Right, it's the being
out for the test drive. Take the old Kramer from Seinfeld.
How far could we break that needle off? That's kind
(09:22):
of where the Knicks were. Eventually that car is stopping
in the middle of the desert, and that's exactly what
happened here. Just did not have enough to outlast and
nor did you think that they would be able to
shoot sixty seven percent? Your guy nem hard. He went
eight of ten. Sure, he had twenty. Everybody was everywhere,
everybody plays, everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Win sixty cent. What are you gonna do? What are
you gonna do? Right? But you know there's a butt coming. Okay,
there's a butt. But I'm not mad about the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
No. I watched your I watched your facial response to
what was going on in the open and everything, so
I know there's a butt.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Here's what I'm mad about. I'm mad that we lost
to them. I'm mad that we lost to the Pacers.
I'm mad that we lost to a team that, like
a little kid who wasn't being given ice cream, cried
and cried the first two games of the series and said, oh,
it's not being called right, and it's the small market
teams and we're not giving a chance. And then they
start winning games and suddenly, oh, oh no, everything is
(10:19):
fine now because we're winning. Like I gave the kid
a lollipop, Would you please be quiet and stop crying here? Okay,
everything is fine, and then at the end of the
series it's all patronizing and Rick Carlisle saying, oh, the
amount of respect I have for the Knicks and Tom Tibodeau,
and earlier it was all big market teams. Get it. Yeah,
you don't do that, you can't. And then you have
players trolling the next I'm wearing a Reggie Miller sweat
(10:42):
and you cried and moaned and complained that it was
so sad, and you were so oh, we're being done
so dirty, this is awful. Oh open, now we're winning.
Let me dry my tears and let me let me
stop snipping. And now now I got my swerve back
a little bit there, because it's two thousand and six
and I said swerve, and now we have automatically I'm
getting hit across the temple for that. I have my
confidence back now. Now now I'm feeling good. Yes, I
(11:03):
can say good things about the Knicks, and oh boy,
what a great what a great competition. Hey, hey, what a
great series. Let's give a big round of applugs the
next and I'll look at the players here who want
to continue to troll the Knicks and Knicks fans look
at I'm gonna wear a Reggie Miller sweatshet and I'm
Tyre's halliburt and Reggie Miller continuing to troll the Knicks.
They went from we are crying and moaning and complaining
like little kids sucking their thumb, laying on the ground.
(11:24):
But here, here's something to be quiet, and now it's
say here they are later Oh no no, and now
everything is fine. Yeah, no, no, no, everything is fine.
That's what pisses me off. But that that's how they
behave the entire series. And that's who we lost to.
We didn't lose to a team that beat the crap
out of us and won by twenty twenty five. And hey,
this is all we have to do. We're professional about it,
X Y and Z, because you know what, they're just
(11:45):
mad at the fans. They're just mad at the fans,
not like Knicks players were saying anything during the playoffs,
not like Tom Thibodeau was saying anything in the playoffs.
The Pacers decided, oh, we're mad at the calls. We
don't like the fans, we don't like the x Nicks
that are a round that are around the floor, that
we don't like the atmosphere of Madison Square guarded had
whined and cried and cried and cried and cried, and
then it turns out they want oh and now everything
(12:05):
is okay. The only one crying here is you. So
that No, that's just that's just so unprofessional. That's just
so what you're doing is to No, it's I'm telling
you why I'm pissed off, man, I'm telling you why
I feel I Joey Tribaan, I'm telling you why. Chandler
tell your as we did. We lost in seven games?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Yeah, by how many okay, okay, six and seven were
like blowouts.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
How many playoff games did you win? Frostburg, we're talking
about the I'm not talking about Minimuim would tell me
how my team is not good and they're not good
and they made it way.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
You haven't won a championship since nineteen seventy, way further
than your team nineteen seventy three, nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Same thing, but it was you weren't even that was
in my lifetime. I was poor.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
No no nos broke up seventy the last nick.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I was born. I was alive for that one. I
wasn't alive for the first METS one or the first
next one. But I was alive for that one. I
was alive. I did not watch Phil Jackson on my
screen on tape delay, but I was alive for it.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
But again, the point as let me do this for
you here, justin so he doesn't come in and try
to choke you up. Is the shows today, the game
was this weekend. He's got nothing to do with his squad,
and they're in ability.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
He's only because he's saying things that are and true.
Your team is bad. You lost, you know he's doing that. No,
they lost my twenty one and then he's trying.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Well, you're out here saying that they went as far
as they could.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You said they were going to the finals. Yeah, well
when they all started getting hurt and then it wasn't.
And I told you from the beginning of the series,
I hope they have enough to win this series they made.
I said that from the beginning of this series. I
can go back to the tape and find exactly where
I just finished with your car. So, man, you don't
got to stop because you can't cut. I'm trying to
make it. You don't make salient points.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
It's the nixt It's brilliance is that you're wearing a
white son there just because they're wearing it was.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
A white Sox shirt today, that's like good. I'm gonna
like trip and fall off in my chair right now
because I'm close to you wearing a white Sox. Terrible.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I stipulate to that. And they've been terrible for a
very long time. And now you got one of the
new broadcasters fighting with the guys on the race video station.
It's absurd. But for Rick Carlisle, what are you doing?
You're trying to get calls? And did he take it
to an extreme with the.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
But that's what you do. That's what you do.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
And you know, Phil Jackson might have done it more
eloquently back in the but then he stopped the guys.
Then he stopped he does, so everything was getting officiated
right then. No, there were no change at that point,
and there's no point to fight it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
At that point.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
You've said your piece and then you win four out
of five, including two blowouts, and so that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You did. You did your job. He just cried and
now everything everything is all. Isn't that what everybody does?
I mean, that's that's society. Isn't it complain complaint?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
All right?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You kissed my ass. Now I'm good and you go.
I have to like it, and I didn't like it.
I didn't like it at all.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
That's all I'm trying to do is put the mother
to my muscope up to say we all do it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So I met.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So when you're at home and you didn't get enough
of a big dish, why are you mad?
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You should not be mad. Your team didn't do anything.
My team lost.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
You.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You're the one mad, and you're making me mad. You're
making disager man, You're making frostburg man. I say you
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Speaker 1 (16:11):
I didn't know that we needed this quarterback controversy, but
apparently we're gonna get something like maybe people in Philadelphia
are just bored the Sixers being out of the playoffs,
but a couple of crazy reports on on social media
that potentially the Eagles are looking at some sort of
situation where they can run Kenny Pickett into games and
(16:35):
Jalen Hurts and he will share the field. At the
same time, other reports Picket is playing better in OTAs
than than than Jalen Hurts. And I'm saying to myself,
there's no way this stuff is. There's no way Jalen.
Why why is that Jalen Hurts is? How could read?
Speaker 9 (16:51):
Well?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, first of all, how can you can't lose your job?
You can't be being outperformed in OTAs when you're Jalen Hurts.
I don't know how that happens. But here's what you
can be. But you can't. Okay, I mean you came
in really out. You're throwing lefty.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I mean, come on, man, suddenly your accuracy is completely
up and we watched the second half collapse.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I just I just can't believe this. I can't believe this,
mainly for one reason. There's one reason I can't believe
And it all boils down one reason. Right, Remember again,
this is a lot of things, right. Is he outperforming
Jalen Hurts? Are they gonna put Kenny Pickett on the field?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
All of these coming off a very tough season before
Hurts for Sirianni and new coordinators, everything they had going
on in Philly.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
But you can boil it down to one thing. Yeah,
I could buy it. There's one thing that makes me
think this is not real, that this is just something
fabricated enough for whatever reason, because people I can't believe it. No, no, no, no, no,
no no. Not that.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Maybe you're trying to stir it up a little bit.
Something can get a great reaction in an interview. I
am going to get more concrete than that. It's not
it's not gonna be And you don't need to speculate
anything thoughts not no, not a Jerry Jones teaches us
the great Literature of Shakespeare that we were discussing a
little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'd go back to college for that class. By the way,
a fellow, it wasn't that a game in the seventies
you had you had the black and white chips. He
turned over and tried to win. That wasn't that what
that was all about? And Iago wasn't wasn't he the
parrot in the in the in the Aladdin movie wasn't
even parent. It was on the shoulder of the guy.
Wasn't that what? All?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Boils one reason why I can't believe this. There's one
reason why I can't believe that.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
If we ask our guys if they can guess the reason, Yeah,
you guys want to guess what the one thing.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Is why I can't believe that Kenny Pickett is a
outperforming Jalen Hurts a training camp or b. They're actually
looking to get Kenny Pickett on the field with Jalen Hurts.
At the same time. There's one, very concrete one reason
you don't have to what's the reason you think it is?
Don't overthink it.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
I have to say it's because you don't have a
jersey of him. M I don't have a jersey a
lot of people, but okay, that's that's probably the most prominence.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
And also you probably have money on it. Okay, money
does make decisions, Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Mind, there's no question about it.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
It's like indecision clouds your vision, like faith, no more
saying all those years ago.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh that's pretty good. I was gonna sy you should
put on the T shirt. But it's already Yeah, it's
falling to pieces of faith no more? Right, And I R,
what do you got?
Speaker 7 (19:15):
What?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
What do you think? What could the reason be?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Want to say?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Maybe because he never played for the Jets? Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
All right, well, I mean again, I mean they're they're
thinking about it a little harder. Yeah, now, now let's
go to the principles involved. Yes, Salen hurts Kenny pick
How would you describe the play of Kenny Pickett last year?
If you were to boil it down to the basis term,
you could possibly come up with.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Bad. Well, you're on the right right track. You're on
the right track, because say it. The correct answer is
why I can't believe any of this is because Kenny
Picket stinks. This is why I can't believe it. He stinks.
There's a reason why the Steelers wouldn't keep him. There's
a reason why he's a backup. And if you're the
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Eagles and you want to put him on the field,
you're insane. That's why I can't believe get it.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Because he's maybe getting away from the ineptitude of the
offensive coordinators that have been employed in Pittsburgh. Freeze, can
he pick it up?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No? No, no, no, no. Maybe is a wizard.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
No, no, see Jason. Maybe he just liked his eggs
a certain way and the chef wasn't a fan. Uh
could be a very picky guy.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
No, my uncle used to Okay, if you went out
with him like that would be the number one thing
he would complain about can't even get my bleep and
he bleeping eggs the way I want him, and he'd
be salty. He'd start cursing out the weight Stad like
it was problem.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
My dad's kind of like that, like when you go
out to dinner with him, like there's always something it's like,
this is and the biggest, the biggest uh bit of
of of praise he could have. Dad, How was your
food That wasn't bad? That means it's like one of
the greatest things you ever taste in your life.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
He likes Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Yeah, better than he he liked
Latrobe wasn't bad? Uh No, no, Latrobe. Latrob is Rolling Rock. Well,
it's Saint Vincent College they do their training camp. No, no,
I mean but rolling the Rolling Rock is yeah thirty
three Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, no, No. This boils down to Kenny Pickett stinks.
Well maybe maybe Jalen Hurts had that one year. Now,
all of a sudden, East, they're popping champagne right now,
going hey, they're gonna hurt something.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
The NFC East if you were described describe those squads,
and we boiled it down to one thing. Yeah, Ian,
you want to take another crack of this. What do
you think about the teams in the NFC East.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Bad very good Ian, very good man is consistent but
not stealing my catch right? They stink.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Can you imagine just talked about Jerry and the Cowboys
and you got the giants trying to figure out, I
mean they're selling me.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Daniel Jones is on the field. Can you imagine just
off wheels. Can you imagine like week two, Daniel Jones
versus Kenny Pickett. Let's go on, what are we doing?
What what are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Celebrate all to seventy two week? That would be one
of them, that would be that would be might be
seventy two. Oh no, I t sixties to be down there,
at least the two fifties. If you're ranking one through
two seventy two, that's a two sixties.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's another chot we've taken on. Guys.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Yeah, we're gonna start printing out the sheets ranking one
through two seventy two.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
This idea. I like that idea. We gotta do that.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
But legitimately, I mean you're looking at Jalen Hurts. There
were a lot of people jumping off that bandwagon pretty fast.
The end of last year, you had the infighting with
aj Brown, you had all of that going on the coordinators. Clearly,
they acclimated well in the first half, and then it
fell apart. The only thing that saved them from national
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ridicule was how bad things got down in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Okay, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. However, However,
if you're gonna push Jalen Hurts to the side, bring
in somebody who what doesn't stink. That's what you need
to do. You gotta bring in somebody who's actually good.
But maybe he can't bring somebody ex Steeler now good.
That's not a phrase. If he was on the Jets
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and then went somewhere, it would be ex Jet now good.
Maybe he maybe he can be that. No he can't.
I've watched him. I've watched him. I've watched him. Cleared
his mind.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
He went and saw what was what was the doctor's
name that fixed Danny Rojas after he killed that dog?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Oh doctor Fieldstone.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah, sure, maybe he saw someone equivalent to her and
now football is life.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
No he no, no, no, he's no, he stinks. He stinks.
If the power of the Steelers fans who tried to
prop him up. I did. If they could have powers
of karma going into Kenny Pickett, if that didn't make
him good, nothing's good. He stinks. He's not good. He's
not good. And if this what they want to put
him on the field, I'll tell you everybody else is
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going to have a party going. Oh man, look at this.
Look forget about jayalen her it's his fall from grace.
For a second. You decided we're gonna put Kenny Pickett
out there versus drunken Eagle fans. That's I want to see.
That's like, we're gonna fight about this. We're gonna fight
about Pickett versus anybody you want to fight about. This
is gonna crossroads, which is pats Ands and whoever wins,
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whoever wins gets a free copy of season one Mayor
of Eastown, that's what'll do that. It's on the line
for this time. Wins was really good. See what they're
gonna make Mayor of Eastown season two? I think they should.
They're gonna have a crossover with Mayor of Eastown and
Mayor of Kingstown. It's gonna be great. Him and Jeremy Renner,
he and Jeremy renderd it's gonna be fantastic. Hawky. Yes,
he's gonna be hawkeye and he's got to be hawk.
I thought he would be hawkeyed. You know, I'm really
glad to see him back on this. I thought he
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was and stuff Again. I thought he was an archer mayor.
I thought that's a pretty cool thing. Just how about
that for a show mayor who's also an archer fighting crime? Like,
how about that? I'm in for that? Yeah, right, all right?
What's his signature? We got Jerry Jones, He Jerry Jones
teaching high school English and Jeremy Renner as a as
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a as an archer mayor. I mean, how great is that?
When when I can't when I when I can't legislate,
I do it myself. The proclamation suddenly appeared high on
this post.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Here's this banner unfurled, here's the guy's on the edge
of it, a giant era.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Here's a guy running for mayor against me, and suddenly
he walks out of the campaign stop and then sunk,
just gets an arrow through the back. What made you
think it was me? What are you talking me? You
have a quiver around the back. No, and you're wearing
a mask. Nobody saw me do it. You nobody saw
it that many people walk around with quivers and mats
just because I didn't shoot the guy with an arrow
did he's running against me for mayor vote vote Renner.
(25:37):
I did not do that. It's not me.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
It's got a flag, it says Renner, attached to it
as you.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I cannot. But that's why I can't believe the Kenny
Pigott rooms.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Cause great though, come on, does that gives us some
spice from the offseason Philadelphia, the fans up in a
little bit up in arms, and maybe take a little
bit of attention from all these guys that are suddenly
jumping on the bear.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It will be good.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
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Speaker 1 (26:12):
For the first time, we had the Chief's answer about
their opinions for Harrison, Butker, we had Patrick Mahomes talk
about it and say, listen, I go by the teammate
the guy is, and I don't agree with particularly everything
he says, but I go by the teammate he's been
and who he is here for the last seven years.
(26:32):
And then Andy Reid was asked about the opinion a
more pointed question, and here's Andy Reid's response about what
he said or hasn't said to the chiefs after Bucker's
comments with so many women just.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Plun staff here and in the building, give I mean
his comments kind of touched on one that you work
for U. So I mean, what do you tell them
if they come to you with a concern about clear
speaking all of you know, women and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, that hasn't happened. I don't think you're speaking ill
of women, but his opinions and we already expect that.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I let you guys in this room, and you have
a lot of opinions that I don't like.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Oh, I didn't know was Andy Reid's call to let
people in. I didn't. I thought that was an NFL thing.
Andy Reid decided what reporters get in.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I don't know. We've had people excise people from their
room saying you're out of here. Yeah, you don't subscribe
to my podcast, so beat it. I mean, come on,
We've had a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Here's some nuggies and listen to my podcast. But there's
two takeaways from this, Right, There's one thing I would
have really liked to see in One thing that it
would have been smart to see is that, you know
we've talked about Harrison Bucker. Was this something that you
that you kick him off the team for you? No,
this is a guy giving his opinion. And the main
thing with when stuff like this happens is that people
(27:46):
like freedom of speech, but they don't like freedom, but
they they also want freedom from responsibility, which is what
people have to say in response to that. Right, Harrison
Bucker said them things that were wildly unpopular, stuff that
that I can't believe. He said that, I'm like, why
are you talking about the president? Why are you talking
about dangerous parts of religion? What the hell is wrong
with you? Man?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Like?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
What do you do with anathic school? He thought he
has had kindred spirits and that's what he spoke to.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, but but wow, man, I mean that's where you
want to go to. That's a this is a day
that college kids are graduating about. Right. So what I
would have liked to see because hey, we talk about
freedom of speech and how hey he can say what
he says, I really would have liked some of the Chiefs,
and and Patrick Mahomes disagrees with stuff, and Andy Reid disagrees.
I would have liked to see somebody one of them say, hey,
(28:32):
I disagree with what he said. Women should be able
to do whatever they want to do in the world,
or you know, I don't don't. I don't think this
is the place to talk about religion or when you
want to take on politically when you're doing that, I
really because that's because that's okay, right, You're okay to
give your opinion. It's okay to say you disagree with
Harrison Butker and say why right, that's a thing that
I would have liked to see because I like to
(28:54):
see the other side of it. Because now the smart
thing would be to do something like that, because you
know why, because that takes the temperature of this whole
thing down, right. Instead the Chiefs, and we told you
what the Chiefs organization is like. They want to put
their head in the sand when anything controversial comes up,
and it's just as long as you can play, you
can play for us. Right. They take the NFL back
(29:14):
twenty five years. Tyreek Hill or she Rice doesn't matter,
no suspensions, know nothing. Whatever happens, you play for us.
But if Andy Reid said, look, I just want to
tell you I want you know, I want my wife
to be able to do whatever she wants to. I
want my relev I want I want that to happen.
That's the way things should be in this world. If
you give the other side of it and say listen,
we're not you know, denying that this is a controversial
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thing that he said. What that does is that takes
the temperature down across the board because instead of having
all kinds of petitions out there for let's get rid
of Harrison Butker and this being a story. Okay, people understand,
all right, he had his opinion. Andy Reid said this,
or Patrick Mahomes said this, or somebody else said this. Now, okay,
is it really that big a deal? Can we move
(29:57):
on from this? But instead, because the chiefs to say,
we don't want to talk about it all, No, clearly
Harrison Butker has no problem. So I think giving the
other side of it, I think that helps. Right. That's
what we see all the time now, not that it's
about politics, but when something happens for one side of
the aisle. The other side of the aisle has a response, right,
and it's important that we have those checks and balances
that whether you agree or disagree with either side, Hey,
(30:19):
this side has this to say. Okay, that takes the
temperature down, no matter what, it takes the temperature down.
And that could have been a really good thing today.
But instead read mahomes All said, Yeah, I really don't
want to get into it. No, I think you can
get into it. I think you can help the situation
out a little bit, because all this does is just
let it fester and oh boy, here's Butker And now
what's going on with the team. What's happening here? What's
(30:40):
the deal is he?
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Here?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Is he having trouble with his teammates? Just a little
bit of acknowledging, Hey, I disagree, and here's what I
think about it. That would have been a really smart
thing to take this controversy go okay. Now it was
in a really high boil. Now it can get down
to a simmer and we can get onto football at
some point after.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, I mean you and I have disagree read on this,
and we can go back in the You can check
the audio tape in our our podcast wherever you find
audio and download it, give it five stars and tell
me you love me or hate me. I can take
it at Swollen Dome. With the Rice thing, right, I mean,
the the second part of that's now done, right, I asked,
don't don't press charges?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Is the guys even though he might have gotten rope
a dooped and into hey, come back here and gotten
punched and all that seems like that one's gonna go away.
And you know, again we disagreed on that. With the
Butcker thing, I don't know whether there's a win if
they were to go and call him out, if does
that become a bigger thing in the locker room, if
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it goes further? I mean all it did, really, I
mean it because they spoke today folks that didn't get
to chime in last week, whether they were on vacation
or on and off day or whatever. It got a
little bit of run from there, right because you had
the headlines of this guy, that guy, the other guy
or a woman said thank you to Harrison Butker again,
(32:02):
you know, just one more time with emphasis. I guess
you know, if you're my homes and and Andy Reid,
you know Reid gets a little snarky with the reporters,
but to the point of we've got a locker room
with guys that have differing opinions on an awful lot
of things. And again the butker which whichever side you
fall on, Like I, I know it. I remember it
(32:25):
from my family. Right, my ex is a very powerful engineer.
My family said the PhD was nice. Now that you
have kids, you're going to stay home.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Point of contention, point of issue. I can speak from
it from firsthand experience. Alluded to it last week. You
know that that goes back to you know, depending on
how you're brought up, that that still you know exists
and in this case said hey, you can have successful careers,
but let me tell you about motherhood, and then tried
to sell motherhood. Is how I read it. I understand
(32:58):
if folks who are upset about it, but for reading
from a homes I don't know how much of a
win it is if they go in and they start
to enumerate the different things that they disagree with.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
It's it doesn't need to be something that okay, it
just hey, I understand and this is what I think.
If you don't think it's if you don't just if
you disagree with stuff, just say why. Like I said,
it down, it calms the contract because it's a huge controversy.
It's all anybody wanted to talk about today. You think
they want to get back to playing football. Of course
they do. Andy and Salty disagree and resulting can I
(33:34):
talk now if you're worried? Can I finish my sentence?
Andy Reid as we as you said, as quoting you,
Andy Reid gets salty with the press. Why it's not
their fault. I mean, they're they're asking questions about this,
but now he's made a combative when and this is
a story that's now going to continue to fester where
it could have gone away. Because if you talk about
something generally, if you talk about something, everybody, everybody's okay
(33:54):
about it. When you don't talk and you don't address it,
stuff festers when you don't. When you don't address any
sort of situation in a room, it gets out of
control and it doesn't work. This would have been an
easy thing to just say, okay, here is okay. Guess
what the chiefs talked about it the first day they finished.
They said what they said, We got the opinions of Mahomes,
we got the opinions of Andy Reid and said today
we just got yeah, we don't talk about it. Oh okay, great,
(34:17):
So now we really got no resolution when we could
have gotten a resolution. That's my point.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
All he said was, hey, he's been a good teammate.
He's good in the locker room. Right, we've got Mahomes
on file from the past saying they don't talk right.
I don't know if that owed into like they have
differing accounts on everything else. He didn't give us much
clarity there but that they don't seem to talk a
lot other than hey, go make this forty eight yard kick.
(34:42):
We need you, right, And from a team perspective, you're
gonna disagree with guys and their lifestyles and about a
lot of different things. In this case, I don't know
that I agree that there would have been a win
because at this point it's asked and answered, like are
they going to keep bringing it up?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Well, if they do, it was asked, but it wasn't.
It was just asked and blown off like that's not
asked and answered that that's asked and blown off. That
think that's a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Well, in their minds, they've now answered the question. And
I got to guarantee you the next time they go
to a podium, if someone asks, it's going to be
that's already been addressed. Bill Belichick Lives.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
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Speaker 1 (35:32):
Speaking of Charles Barkley inside the NBA, so much talk
today about how it's now a FATA complete TNT is
going to be losing the NBA. A big article today
that the negotiations are going to be finished sometime in
the next couple of days.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
And.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
ESPN a NBC are going to be the new big
homes of the NBA, and TNT is not going to
have the basketball package that they've had for the past
few years. ESPN has what's called the A package and
TNT has the B package, which of course is inside
the NBA games during the week and everything else. Now,
(36:10):
everything we saw today, we've seen the last few days,
is the negotiations are happening. They are you know, they're
likely gonna be done by the end of the week
and you've seen a lot of Hey boy, inside, the
NBA is gonna go away, and that's gonna be so sad.
And Charles Barkley has talked about it very you know,
very openly about how, look this sucks and and and
(36:31):
and you know, we don't know what the future is
gonna be and all of these things, and he's right, right,
it does suck. It's sucks, you know, it sucks for
any time that people lose sports. And you don't know
what you think of people behind the scenes. I hope
they can all keep gigs job somewhere. But the bottom
line is, it looks like TNT is gonna lose the
NBA and they're not gonna have games, which means the
(36:52):
NBC is gonna have a big package. They want to
have what's called the Sunday Night Basketball Night in America,
playing off the Sunday Night Football Night in America. They're
gonna a big NBA game on Sunday Night, just like
when when the NFL season ends, just like they did
during the football season. Amazon, you know, can get involved
on some things. So it looks like it's coming to
the end of an era. But for all of this,
(37:12):
talk to inside the NBA is gonna go away. Okay,
First of all, it's not happening. Okay, this is still
the gold standard show. This is still a show that
everybody wants to see. This is not a show that's
been past its expiration date. This is a show that
could run forever if they wanted it to. They change personalities,
a couple of personalities. We've in and out every few years.
Shack has certainly stayed the longest time to team up
(37:34):
with with with Kenny and Charles, you know were we
had a few years of Chris Weber and other people
in there, but inside the NBA with them and Ernie
Johnson the host, it has been the gold standard of television,
of sports television shows, pregame shows, postgame shows. People tune
in just to watch them when there's a bad NBA game.
Oh yeah, what's the game. What's what's the game tonight?
Well it's Sacramento and Detroit. Let's see what they say
(37:55):
after the game. And they have an extra long post
game just because hey, you guys got to say something,
and people pay attention. It's still that great at show.
It's not going away. It's simply going to be something different,
whether Amazon, who has all kinds of money. They can
make it happen. ESPN has wanted some of these guys
for a long time. They can make it happen and
(38:15):
bring the Inside the NBA team to ESPN. This is
still going to exist now. The big domino is going
to be, of course, Ernie Johnson, because he has talked
about how he doesn't want to go someplace else. Charles
Barkley said today, maybe he's going to retire now. A
lot of this could be posturing. You don't know er
Ernie Johnson think it's going to be seventy may want
to retire. But it also could be, oh, you want
(38:37):
me to host the show. You're gonna be twenty five
million dollars a year. Yeah, I can do Inside the
NBA on Amazon or ESPN. So it could be a
negotiating ploy. It could be real that he might not
want to go. But it's not like these guys aren't
going to be together in some way, shape or form
doing the show. It's just gonna be different. If it's
Ernie Johnson hosting it, great, If it's not, somebody else
(38:58):
will come in and do the show, because that's just
kind of how things go right, just like a TV
show when people leave and other people. When stars leave,
other stars come in to take their place, and the
show goes on and we argue whether or not the
show is better or worse with the guy taking over.
I mean, it's not all the time you're taking over
for Steve Carell in the office, but sometimes you are.
So it's still gonna be around. It's still gonna be
a show that's on somewhere. It's just like I said,
(39:20):
maybe it's the same, maybe it's a little bit different.
Maybe it's a maybe it's a maybe it's it's somewhat different,
but it's still gonna be those guys talking basketball still
with the relationships they have, still the people that they
talk about on the set. They'll still have Draymond Green
on with them. Maybe there's one. Maybe Ernie Johnson's there.
Maybe it's not. But we're gonna get inside the NBA.
The show is not just gonna die and go away.
(39:41):
It's not happening.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Yeah, I mean you have to decide. Are you a
Robert California guy? Are you a D'Angelo Vickers guy. I mean,
I mean you can go either way.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I mean, look that you know, and they didn't really
replace him when you think about it, they didn't really
replace Steve Carrell with anything like, oh remember that was
Who's gonna replace Steve Carrell. I liked the little bit
they did with Ray Romano when he was eating the sandwich.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
All the couple of random actors pop in for an
episode or two. Yeah, uh yeah, I mean you had
your vase pop in for a minute. You don't know,
I mean, obviously you were thinking about Spin City as well.
Michael J. Fox tags out Charlie Sheen. Charlie Sheen tags
out of two and a half men. Did you like
Ashton Kutcher?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Maybe you did, maybe you didn't, but either way, uh,
Shelley long leaves cheers, Kirsty Alley shows up like it happens.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Boom, Right, Show, Show Must go On, Right, Partner's Move
shows change all of those things. And for these guys, yeah,
I mean the core, it would be great to have
them together. I don't know if you uh was there
video of Barkley? Was he standing there holding a giant
bag with a dollar sign as he made his comments.
I don't know if Erdie's coming back, but if you
(40:50):
want no, you know this triggers you know my contract
would be up and no and void and all this stuff.
So yeah, again hoping that because of part part of
it is the on on camera. Obviously those guys are
the faces of it all, but behind the scenes it
has to work, right, There's a decided difference, uh, in
(41:10):
any show, in an entertainment process, when a producer is
out or you lose some of your your support, writing staff, editors, camera,
like all of those things. So hopefully they're they they're
look they get looked out for and and taken a
with wherever uh this next entity is. But you know,
dollars and cents and schedules and you know, opportunities. Right,
(41:34):
Charles lost that show he was doing in the afternoons
or whatever the hell that was the political slash social thing. Uh,
that's done. Will there be another iteration of that?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Maybe? Maybe not?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
But between he Kenny Smith and and of course uh Shack,
I mean, Shack's had got his hand in a in
a million things. Who knows, maybe he ends up being
the coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Uh, all opportunity, everything's on the table. But if it's done,
then we had one hell of I mean, how long
was it like twenty years.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I think more than that.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
I was twenty five. I mean, like something like that
is like ninety nine, almost as long as it was
between Nick's big series.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know, No, it was longer than that, because I
remember when I was at ESPN as a production assistant.
Tim Kyley was ESPN producers. I worked with a lot.
I did it, worked on a lot of his shows.
I told you a great, great dude. He left ESPN
like when I was still there in like when I
was approached like in like ninety five ninety six to
(42:36):
go to to go to Turner, to go do to
go do football and inside the NBA. So I think
it's longer than that.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Actually, yeah, So, I mean you're looking at this long
history and obviously a lot of huge moments and highlights,
and and in all of their speaking points, they they've
all kind of referenced it. Right. You had that great
pregame clip that was making the rounds of Ernie Johnson
talking to Kyrie Irving who joined them after their Game
one win. But you know, you could see it on
(43:05):
Ernie's face. You know, there's some as he was happy
to see Kyrie, but clearly he was being asked about
the process and what they've got going on based on
the news from today, weighs heavy. No question about a
guy in his late sixties, been doing this forever, a
company guy, and and that's his baby, and I think
(43:26):
he stirs the drink and if he wants to to
rally to the next spot, I think it would be
fairly easy because I mean, what executives not saying, what's
the checkbook? How big is the check got to be?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
That's a place like Amazon that's like a we can
do it, like because ESPN is like, boy, that's a
lot of money, Like you're gonna have to shot, you
have to give those guys. That's he just gave it
all to Stephen A. Smith.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Ye, Shannon Sharps.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
So you're you're, you're in the high hundreds of millions
of dollars. That's why I think something like Amazon where
it's like hundreds of million, Yeah, well we could do
that today. What do you need? You know? We got
the money?
Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yeah, in between hot takes underneath you're you're you're selling
blenders and alcohol.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Jason, Yeah, what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (44:09):
I think people are saying it's the end of inside
the NBA strictly because of Ernie Johnson.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, but but you don't know if he's leading.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
We do know though, Yeah, he's a very loyal man. Yeah,
he said he's going to stay in the TNT family. Okay,
we have to take him out his word.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Okay, No, I'm not saying that that that he's not
So it's not.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
Show inside the NBA only works with Ernie Johnson as
the host.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
But here's the thing. Say, Amazon says, Hey, all right,
we have thirty million dollars a year for each of you.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Think it's about the money.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
For but what I'm saying is and for these guys
that he spent so much time with to go do
a couple of years for them, Hey, for Charles and
Shaq and Kenny. They want the show to go well.
And look, Ernie Johnson gets a lot of credit because
why because he's someone that the four of them when
they're all on the set, that they all listen to right,
and they pay it. They don't just steamroll him. That
(45:00):
he's able to run the show and run the ship.
And that's pretty valuable because the next host they could
put in, they might just talk right over walk right
over them, just like kind of Lebron and ad walk
over her as coach for the Lakers, like they want
somebody in there. Sorry, too soon, They want somebody in there.
They want Ernie there because they want it to be
that show they want. They don't want to have to
worry about, Well, we have these guys. We're giving them
a lot of money. It's really not working because we
(45:22):
have a new host in and then people aren't watchings.
It's not the same thing. No, whoever buy gets that
and wants that show to succeed. They're gonna do all
they can to bring all of them together.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
But would overlap with his MLB coverage on TNT, Yeah,
I remember he's the studio host for that as well.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, but I think they I think if they really
want him, when I'm sure an entity would, they would
come up with things they can do that he could
do if he wants to leave and go again. It's
all part of negotiations, man, It's all part back to
the fun and exciting world that we've had. Well, we
had in Chicago right where Bennetti who's now gone off
to the Tigers. He was the White Sox guy. But
(46:02):
guess what he gives me?
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Well, and now and now the new guy like, not
me because the team stinks and has hurt again. But
the new guy is fighting with all the radio people
in Chicago, calling them losers. Bad bad, bad idea. You're
learning on the job, you're making mistakes, just wear it.
It'll be okay. But Benetti left and but he still
(46:29):
is going to do the same thing with the Tigers.
He's missing He like, he missed several games already in
the first month to go do spring football for Fox. Right,
he was on the Ohio State and on the Michigan calls,
So you know it's.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
All right, Well, you've got this job and we love you.
But yes, obviously there's carve outs and ways you can
work contracts. I think there can be a solution reach
so everybody gets fed and we get a lot of
hugs from Erdie Johnson.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
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Speaker 1 (47:08):
Look, Anthony Edwards tonight is having a fine game, right,
He's not having an overly great game. He's got thirteen
points nine rebound, six assists. He's not shooting particularly well.
He's got a couple of threes, you know, going into
this finals and from here on out. The one thing
that that is top of mind with him now after
(47:28):
the last couple of weeks is that, Wow, everybody is
trying so hard to make him happen. I mean, it is,
it is, Gretchen Wieners. I'm gonna keep saying fetch until
somebody picks it up, right, Like, everybody's trying so hard
to make Anthony Edwards Superstar happen. He's Michael Jordan, he says,
he's being Mac Jones. You know everything you see, all
(47:50):
the coverage of the Western Conference Finals, all the cover
of the Timber. Oh, he's just look at what he's doing,
Look at what do Yeah, Anthony Edwards is a fantastic player,
but all of a sudden, he's Michael Jordan. I mean,
come on, man, let's to stop right, let's stop with
that for a second. If it's meant to be for
him and he's meant to be next and he's meant
to be speak superstar, we're gonna see it, right. But
coming off of Game seven, going into this game, what
(48:11):
did you see, hey, Anthony Edwards, Let's ignore the fact
he shot six or twenty four in Game seven. Let's
just say but defensively, the game they had, you know,
it's all five guys defensively, it's not just Anthony Edwards
and what he did in other aspects of the game.
It's like, Okay, we're moving the goalpost just so we
can always say incredible things about Anthony Edwards. And you
know what, sometimes the guy has a bad game. Sometimes
(48:33):
he's a little bit invisible, kind of like he's been
tonight for long stretches. In this game, right, he's not
nearly the high scorer, and other guys are having big games,
and defensively, Dallas is playing. Dallas has been able to
do what they needed to do against their defense so far.
But it's like to the point where I feel like
he's being mac Jones, where he's all of a sudden,
(48:54):
we need him to fill this role. We need him
to fill the role of who is next, because we
don't have that who's next superstar. Jalen Brunson's not physical enough.
He doesn't dunk. He's smart and he's crafty and he's quick,
and I don't like it because it's not something I
could go wow about. So here's Anthony Edwards and everything
you see is awe, look hout, he's Jordan. He's like,
hang on a second. He's a really good player and
(49:15):
he's accomplished a lot by the time he's twenty two. Right,
he is the guy coming out of college he was
pretty good, he stayed pretty good. He's gotten even better.
He's gonna be a terrific player for a long time.
But wow, trying to make this happen. I mean, just
coming off of Game seven, I said, there's nothing the
guy can do. If the guy if he shoots one
for thirty in a game, but his bucket happens to
(49:36):
come in the final four minutes, it's gonna be And
Anthony Edwards, what are you gonna say about that one bucket? Man? Hey,
the other twenty nine shots he missed, but look at
that big hoop he made with less than four minutes
left to go. It's like they're pushing so much to
make Anthony Edwards happen. The media is doing it, the
fan is doing it, and I'm like, you know what
this is where if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen,
even as traps say, hey, we'll see you guys back
(49:58):
here in game seven. That's some of the most benign
trash talk. But yet it's been thrown out there like
he guaranteed a win in front of the entire press
corps and and the world after again, we're gonna win.
We're down three, is that we're gonna win this series?
Like there's so much trying to make him happen that
there's nothing he can do that's going to be judged
as Ah, maybe he should have played better, he should
(50:18):
have done this, and instead of just letting him happen,
it's it's it's the mac Jones situation all over again. Well,
I think he's gonna have a much better career than
mac Jones is it's I mean, that's what that's what
I see with this and now where he is at
after the last couple of weeks going into the Western
Conference Final,
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