Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason and Mike tell you if LeBron is sincere when he says he’s so f’n mad that he’s not teammates with Kyrie anymore. C.J. Stroud’s TAKING Matthew Stafford & Eli manning OVER Aaron Rodgers. And JJ Redick is apparently the frontrunner to be Lakers next head coach. Plus, a visit from MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, welcome and side happy. Lakers may have a new
coach Day, also known as Tuesday. The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon, Live from the Tirech
dot Com Studios. Front Runner. Okay, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Want me to say, You're gonna get Doc Rivers?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
What the hell?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
All I can say is it is the worst quote,
news story, breaking story or whatever. This is the same
damn thing we've been saying for nine weeks. I was
taking a nap.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
What what happened? I missed it one something. All of
a sudden I saw them my notifications for blowing up.
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I was watching Lawrence Fishburg, What's happenings?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
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we'll get to this news of the Lakers in a second,
but just because it's just gone full time, it's the
second time they've played in a week. US women's national

(01:35):
team beat South Korea three nothing and pretty dominant over
the course of the last couple of games. And there
is a way to go because you saw where they
were in the you know, we go back to the
World Cup coming up for the Olympics. At just sometimes
just sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes a star
can overcome a lot of ills, which is what I'm

(01:56):
hoping Aaron Rodgers can do with the Jets this year
and overcome bad coach, bad lots of things. But with
Mallory Swanson, they look like a different team, especially offensively.
They attack more and you realize how much they miss
there now look again, the other the other nations are
pretty good and this is just her getting back after
really bad injury. But why you can see how much

(02:18):
they miss her because they miss somebody. They put the
ball in the net because obviously that's what we talked
about being the big thing. Alex Morgan's not the big
scorer anymore. They don't have anybody. She's the one, and maybe,
just maybe Mallory Swanson is the one that can cover
up all the ills as we get closer to bigger competition.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
New coach, new philosophy, return of Swanson and the fact
that you are not facing the strongest of competition. I
don't want to dismiss baby steps, bludgeting that they would
just like.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
What about Bob baby steps? Baby steps?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
They kick the crap out of the baby steps.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
But it's also the recognitiontive, all right, these are warm
ups baby steps, right, baby steps? But that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Take the victory, find your wins, yep, business. He went
worked and moved forward. Baby steps, baby steps.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Now to the latest news in the NBA, and hey,
it looks like what now we may hit a trifectave
with what we talked about a week ago, because when
we at Friday Night we said, okay, there's now a
week before we get to the NBA Final. We're still
two days.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Away from the NBA Finals beginning almost there, and uh.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
We said, okay, the Lakers are going to have all
kinds of storylines that are going to Lebron specifically is
going to have all kinds of storylines that's going to
take attention away from the NBA Finals. And we said, okay,
what are the what are the three most popular Lebron
storylines a we could see over the next week that's
going to take over. We said the least likely was

(03:42):
Lebron and Brony say we have to play together, and
that's what we're looking for. Okay, now I need some
time away from that. Well, but they gave us the
second night of the draft for it's still tangentially related. Yeah,
not sure, but they Lebron stayed away from today. Number two,
which was somewhat likely, was aj Reddick becomes a Lakers
head coach and we're going to get into that in

(04:03):
a second. And that looks like that's a FATA complete
at this point. And number three was, Hey, we're gonna
find out other teams Lebron can go play with, because
this is how he's using his leverage to try to
figure out how do I get more from the Lakers
By saying I could go someplace else. I said, we'll
have three or four teams that are going to be
linked with Lebron. And now we got one yesterday with

(04:23):
the seventy six Ers report, right sixers insider who said, hey,
Lebron's on their list of who they want to get.
And now today Lebron goes on JJ Reddick's podcast and says, yeah,
I really miss running up and down the floor with
Kyrie Irving. Yeah, maybe come back. Wait wait heyy hotline?
Wait wait what wait wait what you couldn't stand each other?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Stand it?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Now?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I miss playing with Kyrie. Hey, Dallas everybody. So now
you have Philadelphia and Dallas on that lit Hey, Lebron
could be looking at these I mean it, man, we
should have played the lottery with these things. Well, sure,
add it all together.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I mean look, one of the things that has to
fall out of that is once Reddick is confirm like
a Senate confirmation as the new head coach, that they
have to keep doing the podcast and er alder grievance.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Each other on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Sure, as the season goes on, but yeah, it's the
Kyrie thing just made me laugh, right because Kyrie is
taking his ownership of it, right, immaturity, this that the
other and tried really in this this season of growth,
which is what it's been for him at every turn. Right,
it's like a better teammate. The offs off the court

(05:29):
stuff has gone to the wayside. Maybe the people he's
running with and taking advice from. Right, it's a different
circle of people. And he's kind of owned up to
the well my part of the Lebron breakup, and now
Lebron comes back over the top.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's like, you know what, I really miss that guy.
I really missing I know, we couldn't stand each other,
and he made fun of me, and I made fun
of him and I tried to get him traded, and
then when he was coming back, he made fun of
my coming home. So but no, no, no, I really
miss playing with that guy. You know what, it's time out.
Feuds don't just end. You can't just end a feud

(06:07):
just because you know that's ridiculous. You know, you can't
keep changing feuds on us either. This is not the
WWE where okay, I pay attention to story. You can't
just have a feud be fixed and nobody know about it,
right Like ww at least you see Okay, here's a feud.
Now you know why they're feuding. Then you see why
they make up. Okay, you get it right. But these

(06:27):
NBA feud it's like, oh, why don't you hate each other?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
No, no, you know what. You got to keep us
up to date on stuff. Man.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
To be fair, both guys have missed a lot of
time due to injury.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
We need insider, someone whose job it is to every
month say this is who's beefing with who?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
What?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Scottie Pippen is still beefing with everybody. I'll go to
the lebron Kyrie feud. That's done. Now, Kevin Durant is
now beefing with Devin Booker or whatever we should win.
He make that part of the show. It's the Beef Report.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
And then and then we get Sam Ellie and to
do the voice over with He can fight Big Boys
Bob for the right to do the voiceover.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Sponsored by season two of Beef on Netflix. I mean
you can't just that. Ali Wong comes in.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Good.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, no Walking Dead crossover here, but I mean really,
I mean it's like, oh, wait, all of a sudden,
there's no, no, you're not to you anymore now you
really miss the guy. Now you miss it, really, you
really miss him?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well now that he's winning, really now that he's winning,
and people don't because here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
This is. This is the calculated lebron cut and print.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
This this is very much the Hey, when when Kyrie
and the Mavericks win this series, the title that we
want doesn't mean as much anymore, and maybe he'll actually
start getting more credit for what he did during that series.
This sucks for me, So I've got to be the
bigger man and say, boy, what a player he was

(07:50):
and what a credit he is to our game.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean, what he said today, what he said today, Hey,
I really miss playing running up and down the floor.
Really wait really, I'll tell you. But you know what,
sometimes hindsight's twenty twenty. Man.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
You got to get away from a relationship and you go,
you know, in the end, you know that was petty,
that was stupid. Now you get away from a job,
you gotta hold on in the moment, you've got some snow. Look,
I'm just saying for us, we got to hold on too. Yeah,
we need to just survive. But I'm trying to take
it from the human angle. At some point, you hold
on to that.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
It kills you.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
It says like Don Henley was thinking about, right, yeah,
it'll eat you up inside.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
But when you're Lebron James, you know you don't need
to say, hey, hey, hey, all that stuff, man, that
was great. No no, no, no, no, no no. But that's
exactly who he is.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
That's that's the calculated part of this is you know,
the world's now recognizing the genius.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
The real calculated part of this is here is Lebron
trying to artificially create a market for himself to show
the Lakers, I have options if you don't give me
what I want, which is money, whatever, saying a head coach,
the head coach I want. He's not involved with that
at all.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
How dare you spit in the face of all those
insider fans.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
He's doing a podcast with the guys. Well, I wanted
to just say, sick of fans podcast with them? You know, look,
you want to know he is artificially trying to create
a mark because there isn't that big a market for him. Okay,
he's not going to the Sixers, right, I told you that,
We told you yesterday. He's not gonna trade one big
who is a great player, one of the best players

(09:26):
in the league, but you question his motivation and his
ability to stay healthy. For another big who is one
of the most talented players in the league, who you
questioned his motivation and his ability to stay healthy. He's
not gonna do that. He's not going to Dallas. Dallas
has had a great thing going on right now. They're
gonna upset win or lose. They're gonna upset the Apple
cart and say we need to bring Lebron James in
next year. No, no, no, that's a They're not a Lebron.

(09:49):
I don't think anybody is a Lebron James away from anyone.
That's why I keep saying to the Lakers, that's the thing.
Is the Page Man good as good a player as
he is, it's still a top ten time fifteen player
in the league. There's nobody thinking we're a Lebron away
because Lebron is not that guy anymore. Lebron is a
guy that's gonna come in. He's gonna suck all the

(10:09):
oxygen out of the room, and you're gonna try to
figure out chemistry, and you're gonna try to figure out
what works. The Lakers have been trying for three years.
They after getting rid of Frank Voggel, what works. We
still have no idea Lebron needs a shooter, he doesn't
need a shooter. He needs a point guard. He doesn't
need a point guard. They're still trying to figure it out.
You see that the Lakers have had all kinds of
different inventions of their team just in three years. Russell

(10:31):
Westbrook's the guy. West Rustbrook's not the guy. Nobody thinks
they're a Lebron away he did. This is just him talking,
trying to make it seem like, oh, I have options,
when his only option really is to stay with the Lakers,
still be the biggest star in the league with the
biggest franchise, and hope against hope that next year can
be different. Or you get lucky in free agency, or
someone wants to dump a player who fits in with

(10:52):
what you want to do and the asking price is
really low, Zach Lavine, all you gotta do is hope
that something like that is going to They're ready to
take a dime on the dollar. But I mean, but
let lebrin. He's not going anywhere, right, But he's trying.
I mean, we told you he was trying. This is
why we should we should be doing this in Vegas.
There will be at least two more teams in the
next couple of days. Lebron is linked to We're starting

(11:12):
with Philadelphia. Now we're hitting Dallas because hey, Dallas is
in the finals, and maybe another whole Hey they could
use Lebron. They could use Lebron. That kind of weaves
its way through it. He's not going to either of
these teams. You know, ten years ago Mark Cuban would
have done anything to land Lebron James. But now it's
are we really gonna be better? Do we need Lebron
or do we need you know, someone help? Do we
need another a bigger number three guy? Do we need something?

(11:36):
I don't know that we need another guy that's gonna
need the basketball, right, I mean that that's not I
don't think anybody, no team feels that they are Lebron
away from winning the time.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
The Beverage already have the question of whether Luca and
Kyrie would work, and obviously they've gotten along swimmingly so
complimentary of one another.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Lebron is now and see Lebron shuffle up. Lebron. You
know what I have I got a Vodkan orange juice.
What do you want to add to that? Chocolate? Wait?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
What? No?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
No, no, no, no Raspberry? No, no, we're not gonna
add that either. No, how aboutka chocolate? And how about orange?
How about it? How about how about grass? No, we're
not gonna put grass in either. No no, no, no. How
about how about pumpkin? No, not gonna be pumpkin. Just
go ask Kyrie. Crazy thing this, Just.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Go ask Kyrie what it's all about. When three guys
really need the ball. I think he's live that one before.
He's gone through that a.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Couple of times. I mean, it's just not.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And in the end, we've talked about all the business interests,
and from a straight cash perspective, you can't get anywhere
near the same level of cash. Now, I'd like the
Lakers to call his bluff and say, hey, go figure
it out, go have fun.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Go call Markuban.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
We'll go get somebody else. So call Markuban, We'll go
grab someone else in free agency. But it's the Lakers,
so they're not going to give up the revenue that
he brings to the table. Because no matter who you
bring in as a replacement, right, it's gonna be down.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
So what if they let him go? They let Lebron go,
and then they draft Brownie. I kind of dig that
while JJ redis go all right, I'm going and then
they draft. All right, now we're gonna go. We're gonna
move up in the draft to make sure we get Bronny.
We're gonna trade those first round picks and we're gonna
move up.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
And now we're talking. Now, we're talking chaos theory of
the highest order.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Lebron goes to take a picture with Browny and and
Polinka and Genie and no, no, no, just Lebron out
of the pic. Just us here, just as all right,
just a team and smile, smile. He's not going anywhere, right,
He's not. But he's we told you, he's artificially creating
this environment that maybe I can go seventy six ers yesterday,
Dallas today. There'll be one more tomorrow, fill the air,

(13:33):
gonna come on here tomorrow night. There'll be one more
team tomorrow night. And you know what I'll leave. I'll
even give you a prediction.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
It'll be the Knicks, because somehow he'll keep pine about
about MSG.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
And what it would be like to play there and
how great it would be that'll be there. You go,
here's your third team. There're third team Philadelphia, Dallas, the Knicks.
Here we go at least with two of them.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
You go to the Eastern Conference and you say, all right,
there's a path to bringing him in. You might be
able to win. Now you absolutely obliterate whatever for team
chemistry you had in terms of the Knicks. And I
could see him punching Tom Thibeau out by Game six,
Hi doing that exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
We'll coming up next. We'll have more on the potential landing.
Finally of JJ read it to the Lakers and boy
do we have a superstar quarterback throwing shade at another
superstar quarterback this I'm so excited, I said, superstar, superstar.
Well then it's not Aaron Rodgers stop stop matches, could
be Zach Wilson. That's coming. Oh well, we have a

(14:51):
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Speaker 1 (15:45):
He's back for five minutes God to play Tears for Fears.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Well, you know, I had someone I was just relaying
this to you, someone in our Facebook page thanks. However,
you follow the show saying that we needed Mary to be,
you know, take it out of the building because she
didn't play enough Tears for Fears to torment you.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Alex ty Shirt, who was fast turning into the cal
Ripkin of Fox Sports Radio. Where we count how many
consecutive shows he does before he leaves.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's like days without incident signs at we we didn't
holding places.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
We never get off of one hand, we never get
past five. It doesn't happen. But welcome back, Alex Tyshirt.
Hi Jason, what were you You were doing the Herd
for the last couple of weeks. Yes, you get to
play songs on the Herd? Yes? Do you play Tears
for Fears every single day I was there? Did you really?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Really?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Two of them? She didn't have any And Colin doesn't go, dude,
what the hell? Man?

Speaker 4 (16:39):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You'll love this? So Rick Buker was in studio on
the chair and I played it coming back and Rick
shook his head. Great, I loved it. Do you see
he knows the drill? I dig that. I dig that, okay?
And now do you start playing more Tears for Fears?
That we're gonna play it more than once a show.
Not only tormenting you also Rick Buker. So okay, very good,

(17:00):
very good, Alex. Do you know who Rick Buker is?
No idea longtime friend of the show. He does he
just saw the font when a name came up, he says, Oh,
I did it's it's Rich Bucker. Oh that's not to
it is? Okay, great, that's right Rick Buker, Okay, that's great.
What does he do soccer? What is he talking about?
Is held?

Speaker 4 (17:16):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Reck Buoker? Is that what he does? What did you say?
That sounded like you said something I said? Righty know
that you can't play that back real fast? Yeah, I
see b u c h E r R. I see.
Oh but I think that you did that. You know
what next time we have to do so I prove

(17:38):
that is you got to do it, and you got
to clip it off and send it to me so
I can see it. Okay, I got you. Why Why
does this guy play tears for Hey? It's been a
while since we had a great NFL quarterback dilemma and

(18:00):
we have one now courtesy of C. J. Stroud.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Right, okay, I thought you were going to talk about
the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
No, no, no, no, come on, we'll get to We'll get
to Zach Wilson running his number one with the Broncos
in a minute. Oh but CJ. Stroud has taken aim
at Aaron Rodgers. Right. He does a podcast and he
talks about how much he loves Matthew Stafford and loves
Matthew Stafford's career. Certain things Stafford does he would try
to emulate. And he went out of his way to

(18:29):
troll Aaron Rodgers on three separate occasions, talking about, I
don't know how Rogers treats his teammates. I'd rather have
Eli Manning's career than Aaron Rodgers career.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
And hey, uh you know Brady. I know how Brady
treated his teammates.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Listen to c J. Stroud decide, I want to start
a war words with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
If you had to pick a career to have, I'm
gonna have Amaron Rodgers career, or I'm gonna have Eli
Manning's career. Who career and you take him?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
We want the rings? No, you don't want that's all
rings to the macho man was dead.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Yeah, you freak out. I've been doing in the Super Bowl. Ring,
you want to have that helmet catch. Yeah, you throw
to David Tyree. Nobody knew who he was before. The
helmet catch is nothing. You want the rings, So he says,
I want the rings.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I'd rather have Eli's career than Aaron rodgers career. And
again other times he went on. He said, listen, Brady
is unbelievable. I know how he treated his teammates. I
don't know how Aaron Rodgers treats his teammates. So you
know it's personal a little bit because CJ. Strap went
out of his way to talk about Aaron Rodgers knowing
full well, I don't know how he treats his teammates,

(19:47):
and I don't want his career. Okay, so this is
something you want that thought out there about Aaron Rodgers, right,
because normally if you're a quarterback ask, but other quarterbacks
you go, oh boy, these guys are both really good.
I was such a fan of Eli's growing up there
that's how you are. So you know he wants to
get this out there. He has decided I have had
enough of Aaron Rodgers. For whatever reason, I got this.

(20:08):
This is like w NB A Hey, I haven't had enough
of Kaylen Clark. I got enough of Aaron Rodg now.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
But just like Angel Reese Man whether you bought it,
you know, she need to do maybe a better selling
job as a villain. She'll work on it. But in
this case, for CJ. Stroud, do I want MDPs? Do
I want rings? And I'd love to know the pre
show meeting as to how much he helped, you know,
put together what the rundown is gonna be.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
We're gonna talk about that, right, Hey, what what we'll
ask you about? Like Tank Dell and year two in
the office.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Ask me about Aaron Rodgers, ask about sleep on Diggs
coming in and.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
No, no, no, ask me about Aaron Rodgers. What do
you want me to ask you? Like? Do you you
like to just ask me about him?

Speaker 4 (20:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Hey, I mean I gotta ask you about him.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Dig the fact that he went with Eli because you
get rings in New York.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Now, let's you know now that we know, look, he's
personal and he's throwing the out to Aaron Rodgers. Let's
deal with all three of those things. Okay, let's deal
with the share of those things. First thing is, I
don't know how Aaron Rodgers treats his teammates. Okay, I
see how he treats his teammates with the Jets. His
teammates all love him. I'll go back to Green Bay

(21:16):
that I'm pretty sure he treated his teammates in green
Bay pretty well, because if they didn't, we would have
heard those stories by now, just like we heard about
Russell Wilson when he left Seattle it was open season.
Russ had an office, he did this, he did this,
we would have heard if Aaron Rodgers was a bad teammate.
I think I'll say he treated his teammates pretty good.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I think the thing with Russ is that Russ was other, right,
it was the team, and then there's Russ with an office.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
There's Russ with nano bubbles.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
There's all all of that kind of layering that was
allowed to happen before Peyton showed up, right, But.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
That that all goes into But again I'm above you.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
But in terms of Rogers, right, he clearly took care
of his guys, like the guys that were his best friend.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
He got them all jobs with the Jets, and they
grossly overpaid him.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
So I feel Allen Lazard, I mean that he would
get him canonized if possible, there would be a white
puff of smoking.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
He would be elected pope if it was up to
Alan Lazar. No, he's even going to be on the
team this year, but he shouldn't be. So I feel
pretty good that he treats his teammate pretty well.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
At worst, he was aloof to whether it's not ill
will or my god, can you believe where what Aaron
Rodgers did right? Because he held the team hostage a
couple of times, that's not being a great teammate either,
because it affects them, right, it affects their dollars.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
But that's more than that's part of it, and everybody.
Everybody's gonna want their money, everybody, So that part of it,
you could say.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
But otherwise, yeah, we had no no talk of him
being you know, an outright just bad guy.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
So I feel I feel pretty good that he treats
his teammates well. Now do you want Eli's career or
Aaron Rodgers career. I'd rather have Aaron Rodgers career. Aaron
Rodgers has won the Super Bowl, He's been to two.
He's going to the Hall of Fame. Eli Manning won
two Super Bowls and in two of the most memorable
super Bowls you could possibly imagine. He was clutching both

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of them his career.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
He was one game over five hundred, beat Brady and
Bellied twice. Awesome, the perfect right, I'm saying those were awesome,
But Rogers also was won once. If Rogers hadn't won,
I could understand that, say, hey, listen, this guy's won too, man,
But Rogers has won one, and he's been to two,
and he's going to the Hall of Fame and he's
still playing.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
When Eli Manning was done when he was thirty four
years old, Rogers is blowing past that by five six years.
So yeah, I get that. I understand it's about winning.
It's about winning. But I think anybody would say, oh,
I'd rather that guy's career that's going to be a
twenty year career, Hall of Fame, Super Bowls. Anything he
says makes a headline, or Eli Manning, who if he's
not Chad Powers or he's on the Manning cast. Okay,

(23:57):
I still would rather have his career.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
He doesn't win, it's different, but a super Bowl so
I but that's the get The two super Bowls takes
him over the top for me.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
For a couple of reasons.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Again owing to the fact that you took down the
Patriots twice. You're in New York. You lived up to
the surname, right, because you equaled your brother's total, one
of which he got dragged to the other one against
the Bears, he didn't play particularly well. Unfortunately for me,
I had to witness Rogers one Super Bowl win live
and in person.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Fun, but it.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Was at Jerry's palace, so it's great, a good time,
and it was against the Steelers, and you know, I
mean a lot of pomp and circumstance and pageantry and whatever.
So it's great. But you know, for for Aaron Rodgers,
say he doesn't get the second one, just for the
sake of argument, he goes down as one of those guys.
We'll we'll talk about a bit, right, you'll mention the MVPs,
and he's gonna be remembered as much for the off

(24:48):
field because otherwise he starts going down the All right,
Marina's there. There's there's other guys that have that have
won a Super Bowl and could be put in as
like all time guys. Right, Marino never got his, but
he kind of goes to the wayside. We got guys
with three and four super Bowls that kind of get
left out of any of these conversations, right, And I
think Rogers is at this point destined because Eli always

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comes up because of the gravitas.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well, those two super bowls.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
C J.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Stradd will change his answer. After the Jets win this year,
then I'd rather have his career. He's got to what
are they gonna win? The toiletoy? Now that just stop, dude.
We're gonna win fourteen games. We're gonna steamroll through you guys.
Put that on put that on record. Okay, just it'll begin.
He keeps changing. It was thirteen last Friday. Yeah, well
now it's fourteen and three because of what CJ. Stroud say. No,
because they have seen a lot of you're gonna go

(25:37):
from OTAs, are you not. Here's the largest videos from
OTVA watching the Texans. No, no, no, no, I don't
get know. That isn't really good. You're gonna hit CJ. Stroud. Now,
now here's the third one. Here's the third one. As
much as c J. Stroud loved Matthew Stafford, he said,
if Stafford had Aaron Rodgers, guys in Green Bay Stafford
would have three to four more super Bowls. Okay, now

(25:57):
let's stop for a second. So if Matt Mathew Stafford
was on Green Bay, he would have three to four
more super Bowls. Now, here's all open the door to
that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Has Rogers underachieved in the playoffs? Yeah, one hundred percent.
Now he got the team with the playoffs, so it's
not like they struggled getting to the playoffs. So let's
just say you're getting to the playoffs because he got
you there.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
And most of the time the division sucked. So let's
you got late to that, right. But we always because
we always do that to Brady a little less to Manning,
and we somehow leave Drew Brees alone.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
But look but because because Brady's always warned that them,
oh the division was terrible. Well, these other guys that
were all time greats, they were good. Yeah, but look
at what the division sucked to. But Stafford's not doing
anything in the regular season that Rogers didn't do. So
let's okay, So in the playoffs, Now, did Green Bay
underachieve one hundred percent? There's a couple of years where boy,
they were really good. And I'll just go back a

(26:50):
couple of years ago. You got the NFC Championship game
at home and you can't even score a touchdown offensively.
So as good as Matthew Staffords, you saw him get
away from Detroit and become, you know, and get much
more cachet because he wins the Super Bowl and he
proves that I can make that the team around me
when it's better. So three to four, that's a lot
of lunacy because green Bay was never that good. They

(27:10):
weren't the Chiefs, right, It's not like you know, Roger
with the Chiefs every year, like doesn't matter. We just
keep rolling through. But I'll say this, would they have
one more Super Bowl? Would Stafford have two? Probably? Okay,
if he was playing, if he was playing with the Packers,
they're probably would one of those couple of seasons where
if he was playing at a high level like we've
seen him play, he would have been enough to get
them there and they probably would have won one of them.

(27:32):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
The greatest part of this those that for years when
Stafford was in Detroit, and you know, we had a
few of those on air together. I would defend Stafford
against all covers, right, you know, who else did that?
Aaron Rodgers, that's his favorite quarterback, And for years it
was always to Stafford was underserved, No, no, no, But
he's a guy that has been blasted from pillar to

(27:56):
post by many folks and then he goes to the
Rams and all of a sudden like, oh look out
good he he was.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Always that good stun And it shows you that it
can't always all be the quarterback. But when you take
a quarterback and you take him off a team that
can't shoot straight and you put him on a team
with a pretty good head coach and assist them, hey,
they can succeed. They can succeed. He what's the thing?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
I just like that it gets tied to that because
Rogers is the guy that was always now Matthew Stafford.
I love watching him, Like when we played Detroit, I
always loved being on the other sideline and just watching
him go to work. And now with CJ. Stroud end
up in because opposition, I love it.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
You look at the last just still look at the
last couple of years with Rogers in Green Bay when
oh we blamed you know, we blame Lafleur for Hey,
why do you not go for it? On fourth down,
you're kicking a field goal, you get knocked out of
the playoffs. You you don't even have an offensive touchdown
at home in the cold weather in the NFC Championship
game the year after that. So, yeah, Rogers has to

(28:54):
own that. He can't go oh, the play calling was bad. No,
Rogers has to own it in those big moments, he
didn't come up right. But is Stafford one of those
guys that always gonna play no but one time, Yeah,
I'll get I'll say instead of three or four, if
he had Rogers cast, he would, Stafford would have another
Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
I still think I'm the only guy on record saying
that Aaron Rodgers sucked for not telling Lafleur to go
blank himself and to keep the kicker on the sideline. Well,
it also allows you to have if you fail, you
have someone to blame, right, and they don't get it.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
It's Rogers yours now. But here's the thing. But if
you go for no and it's Rogers, I have a
fall game.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
I know.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
That's like whenever we play games, like because we love
playing games with our friends, and if we have game
nights all the time, and and and we get to
a point where hey, it's a big question and I
don't know the answer. Because if I know the answer,
I know you trust me on this. If I don't
know it, I always say, oh, let's go with your answer,
and my wife or somebody will say you're sure. I
go yeah, Because that way, if you're wrong, I can
just blame you and it's not my fault. Like that's it. Hey,

(29:53):
we lose this game, I can just blame you that
you didn't put me out there. I'm that works. We
had another great hot NFL topic debate coming up in
about twenty minutes, but straight ahead, it looks like one
of the biggest questions in the NBA is about to
be answered. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Jason, Yeah, what's up Frostby? Did you sing this when
you walk into McDonald's? No? No, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Did you order a sheet cake? You know, because you
went yesterday and you're sitting to.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
What makes me so long? I did not order it?
Did not? I did not.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
That's fantastic, Okay, No, that's the Smith remix, no mix.
No one's singing this one. No, I didn't order a
sheet cake? Okay, we good?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Did you break us any has? No? No, I didn't.
I didn't. I'm sorry. Did you want some? I'm sorry,
I don't know you wanted any.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
As a crew we were working at radio station at
a network.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Would say give me three, give me four cheeseburgers. You
would have one, and then you'd probably eat the rest
because Tystirt's not having it because it's beef frostburg camera
or his head would explode. So you would just wind
up eating all of them. No, you'd eat the other ones. No,
I know, I'd eat them all before i'd left, like so,
I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to leave it
to risk. I'd leave it the chance that, oh hey,

(31:30):
if I bring these back and Harmon eats all of them,
I'm going to be out. No. No, I'll eat my
burgers first Thursday.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I'll bring it with the wings that I ended up
having to eat on the way, eat something else on
the way home.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon,
Lot the Tirec dot Com Studios. All right, now as
time goes on. You've heard Brian Finley talk about it tonight.
We are inching closer and closer to the likelihood that
JJ Reddick will be the new Lakers head coach. Look
at the words you just used. We're inching closer. I'm

(32:06):
sure there's already an agreement, but ESPN wants JJ Reddick
to work the finals, so you're not gonna get an announcement.
But it's so close. It's so close. Hey, let's give
you some kind of news before somebody breaks it, before
we're ready to have it broken. And I think my
favorite part of this is today is boy, Lakers are
gonna be great, and everybody is showing video from JJ
Reddick's career of him hitting threes, and I just keep

(32:29):
going back to that part of Major League two when
Roger Dort says, I've fixed everything. I've activated myself because
he wasn't playing anymore. I fixed out. I'm out like
I figured it out. I've activated myself. I'll be coming
off the bench of shooting guard.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
This is how I'm gonna fit you know what?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
He does figure prominently into the first couple episodes of
Clipped that came out.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I've activated my So he takes off his trench coat.
He's wearing his Minians jersey. I've activated myself.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Playing for the Veterans Minimum, and I'm now gonna be
the shooter.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
We Reddick is coaching wearing a jersey and the tar
Away pants can just go right in if he needs to. Hey, Hey, Reeves,
come on out. I'm coming out business up top, coming in.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
He's got the tar Away pants, so he's got the
shorts on underneath.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
You know, look, I believed it when when this first
came out, and it's still true. I don't know how
he's going to change a culture because he's someone that's
going to fight for a cachet when he walks in
the door. This is a guy that played for a
while broadcasting throwing out hot takes. He's a hot take broadcaster.
And now he's gonna he's not just gonna coach a team.

(33:34):
He's gonna coach the Lakers. So he's gonna come in
and he's gonna have to do a couple things right.
You have and it's impossible because you have a group
of guys that you have to come in and you
have to lay down the law and get them to
follow you. Well, that's not going to go well, because
we've heard that's kind of the way JJ Reddick approaches things. Hey,
I'm this hard ass kind of coach. Okay, so that's
not gonna get those guys to buy in. Sure as hell.
Isn't gonna get Lebron.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
And Ad to buy in. They're gonna do their own thing. Yeah,
but he's already got a d. He's gonna be at
him because he left him off his all defensive teams,
first and second team, a guy that folks were stumping.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
For to be the defensive player of the Year. I mean, hey,
riddle me this coach. He's not gonna get Lebron and
Ad to buy in to do what he wants him
to do. Lebron is even gonna have more of a
belief and a desire and Ad to say, all right,
he's in my guys in here, I know what we're doing.
I'll tell him what we're doing, and everything is gonna
be fine, Whereas it could be a little difficult if
I'm gonna tell Darvin Ham what we're gonna do and

(34:26):
he's gonna say, no, I want you to do it
this way. But JJ Reddick's my guy. So I say
this is what me and A D are gonna do,
and JJ Reddicks gonna say, hey, okay, that's fine. I'm
gonna say, go coach the other guys. I mean, I
don't know how you walk in to the Lakers with
no experience other than I'm playing. And I get that
now we can. You know, it's great to think outside
the box. We're hiring people we can go out for here.

(34:47):
Someone doesn't need to go and be an assistant here
for so many years and then be a head coach
at lower level here. You see. I love that, But
this is a job where you're coming right in into
the fire and you're expected to win and win big
right away. And you you have two players that have
been incredibly difficult to coach their entire careers, and that's
who you got to coach in addition to getting the

(35:07):
other guys to buy in. I just don't see where
JJ Reddick is going to cut through and suddenly he's
going to be a difference. I feel like every Laker
coaches the same, whether it's Vogel now to to Darvin
Ham and now to JJ Reddick is going to be
the guy's going to try his best to change things,
but in the end it's gonna be up to whatever
the guys feel like they want to. This is different,

(35:27):
This is pat Riley in the Making. Rad You just
be happy you're not getting Doc Rivers, Okay, just be
happ Why would you even say that, because the one
thing I can say is I know if the Lakers fail,
JJ Reddick is not going to do a press conference
to say, hey, you know, I don't know what to
tell you. Those guys were not good tonight.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
I I kind of dig my fault, not even the
fictionalized versions of both of those guys. I mean pat
Riley Adrian Brody in the Winning Time, and then we've
got clip the first two episodes, and you got Doc
Rivers being played by Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Fishburn, not the voice to do the voice. Yet.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
I think I'd listened to Lawrence Fishburn more than i'd
listen to JJ Reddick.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
He's more authoritic and got one practice where he gets
after it. He's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I want
to get I want to back boys on hood. When
he had the ball, bearings just kept rolling in his hand,
I was like, I was afraid. I'm like, oh man,
him as my dad, I wouldn't do anything step out
of will you know you got that going for it.
But yeah, Furious is deep man. Furious is deep.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Furious styles one of the great names and characters in
film history. But yeah, legitimately, you're trying to build a culture,
change out component parts, get whatever Plinka can do in
terms of reconstructing the back half of this roster, and
you still have to try to climb the west where
with those guys playing seventy games each you barely made.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
The play in.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I just don't see where it's going to be a bit.
It's gonna be a big headline, it'll be fun to
talk about, but the results will be very Darvin ham Like.
I just don't see how suddenly this is gonna change.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
You can do worse than doing things ham like though,
schult content.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Exit outbout a Fresco exit swelling dome. If you like
the CJ. Stroud quarterback debate, boy, do we have a
running back one for you coming up next? Fox? Or
there he does it all? Jason is Zach will Wilson?
By the way, is it is who Zach Wilson? Maybe
it's called a tease tight shirt I'm later on. Okay,

(37:24):
that's great. Hey, he's paying attention. That is true. On
the phone. The guest is Zach Wilson right now.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
But with us on the line right now, a man
who gave two Kopeter Marcano all the gambling advice he could.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's John Paul Morosi, John Paul, what's happening, buddy?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
How are you? Did I just hear you say that
Jack Wilson, Jack Wilson, longtime, majorly getting fielder for Pittsburgh Pirates,
is the number one quarterback somewhere right now? Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Does he get this guy's spot? Bravo to you forgetting
Jack Wilson show. Pretty very nice, very nice.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Jack Wilson's son one year ago, very highly regarded draft
pick out of Grand Canyon University there in the Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
All right. Now, I want you to get Dan Petrie
into the conversation in the next few minutes.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Dan Petrie, great analyst on Bally Sports Detroit, the father
of Jeff Petrie, current Red Wings defenseman who was part
of TUSA at the Most Reason World Championships.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Now, I want you to get Mike Laga in.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Mike Loga was briefly a Tiger, and then I believe
he was traded to the Brewer. That wasn't the same
trade in which Dickey Knowles. Dickey Knowles was around the
same time that Dickey Knowles was traded from the Cubs
the Tigers for a player to be named later who
was Dickey Knowles. Dickey Knowles was traded for Dickey Knowles.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Ah, there's a reason why John Paul Morosi is the
greatest baseball insider there is. Because I'm Sparky Anderson talking
about him in the in the exhibition season, On's going
He's gonna make you forget every power hitter you ever saw.
I was like, wait, what, we had sixteen home runs,
Mike in your career? Really? Okay, Mike, that's right.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
He did say something quite similar about toy Levello.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
By the way, all right, well maybe he meant to
say manager. He could if he said why Jerry, maybe
that would have worked out. Okay, And he was right.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
He probably said he will one day lead a team
to the World Series, which is true, he will lead
a team to the World Series. The incorrect part was
as a short stop.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
That's the incorrect Hey, are you are you going to London?
This week for Mets and Phillies.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
So I'm actually not, but I will be watching a
very carefullyar from back in the States. By the way,
I do love just how much great sports we have
this weekend period. Of course NBA Finals, Telicup Finals, and
then you have both the Mets in the Phillies in London,
and the Yankees and the Dodgers, each one of which

(40:03):
would be an amazing showdown. But they're now taking up
the same weekend, which I love around the clocks, great
baseball action and of course beginning early afternoon hours Eastern
Time from London on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
So now wait, London's not mad. They're getting the Mets
like there's no blowback.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
That hey wait wait, wait, wait wait, you're giving us
the Mets like there's no blowback on the wells.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
As you know, I do have a lot of international
connections there in Europe, just through family ties, et cetera.
None of them have phoned back to me to say,
wait a minute, wait a minute, Morosi, are you sure
that you're sending your two best teams to Europe? And
I would say, well, one of the two bests is going,

(40:46):
and then the other one is the Mets. So are.
We are trying to grow the game, and so therefore
we have sent the Phillies. But as you know, Jason,
to have a ballgame, you must have a second team there,
and that second team will be the Mets, one of
the best teams that Major League Baseball going to London
Stadium and the Mets will be there as well.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Well.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
It's a good warm up for the Belmont Stakes that'll
be run in the middle of the day on Fox
as well.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
So we got that going for us JP.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
How many of those Mets players either don't make it
back from London all together, you know, here's an extra
day or two off while we try to trade you.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
How about that. By the way, wouldn't it be interesting
if there was actually a big trade that happened while
they were all in London. And I don't think we've
ever had of course, this is multiple times we've had
the London Series. Now, we've never had a blockbuster trade
happen while a player has been in Europe, at least
during the course of the Major League season. So maybe

(41:46):
that will change. I tend to think we're gonna get
a lot closer to the deadline before that happens. But
I know we've gone back and forth a lot about
the Mets in there and their travail's in this moment
of time, I would think Jason that the way they
the last couple of weeks, the lore Lopez situation, just
being one small footnote on it, has made it very

(42:07):
clear this team has to be a seller. Alonso has
to be available, and they are not anywhere close to
being as good as the Phillies or the Braves. And honestly,
this is a venue, London Stadium that is very hit
or friendly. We saw that and be the case of
course with the Red Sox and Yankees in the initial

(42:28):
London series. They need to find a way just to
put together a brave face and a competitive effort for
a couple of days because given the way the Phillies
are swinging it, this could get quite ugly if they don't.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Well, I'll tell you what. Not only that, John Paul
is that I just keep thinking, this is like after
seeing how where we're at with the baseball season now,
we had the Memorial Day check in and I say,
if the Phillies ruin our Yankees Dodgers World Series, I
Am not going to be happy, because that's all I
can think of right now now the series this weekend
is this is the year, if any year, we should

(43:04):
get Yankees Dodgers, probably the highest rated World Series in
forty years. I this should be the year it happens.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
You're right, it should be. And yet there are some
other potential spoilers there. You could see the Baltimore Orioles,
who are playing as well as any other team in
the American League right now. I think they're right there,
neck and neck with the Yankees. But I do agree though,
with Toto and Judge together and again, to see these

(43:32):
two teams play this weekend, it would be great for
baseball from a standpoint of just marketing the sport. If
it's a hey, well, we'll see it again in a
few more months, it'd be unique and a pretty special
season if that were to be the case. But I
see a lot of great baseball right now. And I
also see a team in the Mariners that, even though

(43:55):
they're not necessarily competitive with the Yankees and the Orioles
right now, based on the strength of their pitching, I
believe they they could be a spoiler in October. So
I agree as the year non aligned baseball fan and
someone who loves just to talk about the game. It'd
be a lot of fun. We'd be front page and

(44:15):
news at every newspaper the country, which is great. But
I see a lot of teams that could stand in
the way of a Dodgers Yankees World Series. I still
have some concerns about the durability of the Dodger pitching staff.
But you look at the Yankees and we'll see it
this weekend. Those two players, Soto and Judge as teammates

(44:36):
on the Yankees. You follow up any of the great
teammate tandems the Yankees have had historically in terms of
at the same time having a season quite like this
and where they could be going. This is special, one
of the very best tandems the Yankees have ever had
in a single season.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Now, je be on the just the quick side note
of me watching you know, prospects and young guys whatever.
And you mentioned with Seattle, Julio Rodriguez is up to
two seventy but not hitting for any power at this point.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
What happened to him in Torklesin and Corbyn.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Carroll, Well, I think they are all unique cases. But
you're right, I mean, this is now a league wide
issue where whether it's the launch angle school of thought,
which perhaps is part of it for some of the
guys that you mentioned, Carol, I think is much more
related to the injury that he sustained last year, and
he did have some bright moments in the postseason, but

(45:33):
I think we're talking about someone that hasn't quite been
the same since the middle of last year. I'm mystified
at the lack of power from Jay Rodd, although I
do think it'll pick up and he'll get going. Toorkos, though,
is a real mystery, and he's someone that was once
upon a time in twenty twenty the number one overall

(45:53):
pick and it just has not worked out in the
way that we thought it would. And I think that's
to be optioned down to the minor leagues at this stage.
After he hit thirty homers last year, he needs to
There's two different steps for me with Torkosen, and again
think that he is the most most worrisome of this

(46:16):
group right now. He needs to get himself to a
spot where he can just have good at bats this
year and be a productive player, and then probably in
the off season, a more comprehensive look at what has
gone on and what has to happen for him to
get back, because guys, it has been a mystery for
a team that's good, the Tigers. They're not a great team,

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but they're a good team and right now Torklesen simply
is not helping them.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
And they'll be inside of John Paul Morosi with us
here the Jason smithser with Mike Carmon Lifromthetirack dot Com Studios,
and I welcome you in by saying you've been giving
two kopeter moreno gambling advice. We've seen this story the
last twenty four hours. A player that likely nobody knows
who he is, but he is now the first player
in one hundred years to get a lifetime ban for gambling.

(47:04):
He gambled on a lot of games with the Pirates
when he was there, when he was an injured player.
Now I want to ask you this on a scale
of one to ten, If one is they're not very concerned,
and ten is it's a really high priority. We have
seen gambling and players get suspended in the NFL for
not doing the right do it the right way. MLB,
now you've seen it. How big a problem does Major

(47:26):
League Baseball see players gambling as is it, hey, this
is the only time we're here, it's very low, or
is this a it's up at a ten and they're
really worried about a lot of this.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Well, it's a really important question, and I'll answer it
in two different ways. They are extremely vigilant and careful
about this because it strikes that the essence of what
the sport is, it's the integrity of the competition. And
it's important to point out that, of course, the five

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players to spend it today, none of them actually way
injured on games in which they participated. The Marcano distinction,
as you point out Jason, is that he was on
the injured list of the time that he had a
place in wagers that included parlay or whatever it was
on a piece of action with respect to the Pirates.

(48:18):
So this is something that MLB, because of the way
that they are communicating with their players in spring training
in English in Spanish, is a very serious issue and
I think it only works it meaning legalized sports gambling
and having the partnerships that we see exists with MLB.

(48:39):
It only works as a revenue stream as a part
of the baseball and sports business, which it is right now.
It only works if there is full integrity of competition.
You cannot have this component unless you can trust that
everything is above board, and I guess in this case,
the small silvil is it does not appear that there

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was any inside information that was being utilized to place
a wager. And these players were not physically participating in
any of the games in which they had placed wagers
that being said for them were banned for a year.
One of them was banned permanently, and so that just

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tells you how serious the issue is. And I think
also it also tells you that in the modern manner
in which wagers are placed using a lot of the
online platforms and different certifications, if you run a foul
of the regulations, you are very likely to get caught

(49:43):
because the paper trail is there. None of those. This
is with a bookmaker one hundred years ago and the
Black Sox scandal and shadowy figures and these sorts of
things that are made into a Hollywood movie. This is
a swipe and a swipe, and your reputation is different.
And I think that it has to be very very

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clear the ease with which the guy sitting at the
bar can place the wager on a game does not
mean that you MLB team employee should be able to
do the same thing. The rules are different for you.
The commissioner statement said that the communication all along has
been that and there need to be a lot of

(50:25):
education re education about this because clearly, based on the
penalties handed down, guys, this is a very serious issue
in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi,
MLB Network, NHL Network insider John Paul is always buddy,
appreciate your time, my friend, and if some big trade
happens with the Mets, I'm going to tell MLB Network
to fly you to London so you could get the
first interview with likely Pedlnzo.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
I would love that. I would love to report that
news for first Fox Sports Radio, whatever time of night
it is, second, MLB Network, and then third naturally the BBC,
because we would have to break into coverage of question
period whatever's going on in the royal family. We got
to make sure we get to the first and foremost

(51:13):
news there on the BBC.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
All right, practice your British accent, because that's how you're
gonna have to do it.