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June 5, 2024 37 mins

Jason and Mike tell you if LeBron is sincere when he says he’s so f’n mad that he’s not teammates with Kyrie anymore. C.J. Stroud’s TAKING Matthew Stafford & Eli manning OVER Aaron Rodgers. And JJ Redick is apparently the frontrunner to be Lakers next head coach.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:29):
Welcome and side happy. Lakers may have a new coach Day,
also known as Tuesday. The Jason Smith Show with my
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Front Runner, Okay, yeah, you want me to say you're
gonna get Doc Rivers?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
What the hell?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
All I can say is it is the worst quote,
news story, breaking story, whatever.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
This is the same Dan think we've been saying for
nine weeks. I was taking a nap. What what happened?
I missed it? One something? All of a sudden, I
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we'll get to this news of the Lakers in a second,
but just because it's just gone full time. It's the
second time they've played in a week. US women's national
team beat South Korea three nothing and pretty dominant over

(01:39):
the course of the last couple of games. And there
is a way to go because you saw where they
were in the you know, we go back to the
World Cup coming up for the Olympics. At just sometimes
just sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes a star
can overcome a lot of ills, which is what I'm
hoping Aaron Rodgers can do with the Jets this year
and overcome bad coaching, bad lots of things. But with

(02:01):
Mallory Swanson, they look like a different team, especially offensively.
They attack more and you realize how much they miss her.
Now look again, the other the other nations are pretty good,
and this is just her getting back after really bad injury.
But why you can see how much they miss her
because they miss somebody. They put the ball in the
net because obviously that's what we talked about being the

(02:21):
big thing. Alex Morgan's not the big scorer anymore. They
don't have anybody. She's the one, and maybe, just maybe
Mallory Swanson is the one that can cover up all
the ills as we get closer to bigger competition.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
New coach, new philosophy, return of Swanson and the fact
that you are not facing the strongest of competition.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't want to dismiss baby steps, bludgeting that they
would just like what about Bob baby steps? Basics steps?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
They kick the crap out of the baby steps, but.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's also the recognition of all right, these are warm
ups baby steps, right, baby steps.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
But that's it. Take the victory, find your wins. Ye
see what's worked?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Move forward, baby steps, baby steps.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Now to the latest news in the NBA, and hey,
it looks like what now we may hit a trifecta
with what we talked about a week ago, because when
we at Friday Night, we said, okay, there's now a
week before we get to the NBA Final. We're still
two days away from the NBA Finals beginning almost there,
and uh, we said, okay, the Lakers are going to
have all kinds of storylines that are going to Lebron

(03:24):
specifically is going to have all kinds of storylines that's
going to take attention away from the NBA Finals. And
we said, okay, what are the what are the three
most popular Lebron storylines a we could see over the
next week that's going to take over. We said the
least likely was Lebron and Brony say we have to
play together, and that's what we're looking for. Okay, now
I need some time away from that. Well, but they

(03:46):
gave us the second night of the draft from it's
still tangentially related, not sure, but they Lebron stayed away
from today. Number two, which was somewhat likely, was JJ
Reddick becomes a Lakers at coach and we're gonna get
into that in a second. That looks like that's a
FATA complete at this point. And number three was, Hey,

(04:07):
we're gonna find out other teams Lebron can go play with,
because this is how he's using his leverage to try
to figure out how do I get more from the
Lakers By saying I could go someplace else, I said,
We'll have three or four teams that are gonna be
linked with Lebron And now we got one yesterday with
the seventy six ers report, right six ers insider who said, hey,
Lebron's on their list of who they want to get.

(04:27):
And now today Lebron goes on JJ Reddick's podcast and says, yeah,
I really miss running up and down the floor with
Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, maybe come back? Wait wait maybe hotline? Wait wait
what wait wait what you couldn't stand each other? Stand it?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Now?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I miss playing with Kyrie. Hey, Dallas everybody. So now
you have Philadelphia and Dallas on that lit Hey, Lebron
could be looking at these I.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Mean it, man, we should have played the lottery with
these things. Well, sure add it all together.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I mean look, one of the things that has to
fall out of that is once Reddick is confirmed like
a Senate information as the new head coach, that they
have to keep doing the podcast and er alder grievance
each other on the podcast. Sure as the season goes on.
But yeah, it's the Kyrie thing. Just made me laugh,
right because Kyrie is taking his ownership of it right,

(05:16):
immaturity this that the other and tried really in this
this season of growth, which is what it's been for
him at every turn, right, it's like a better teammate.
The offs off the court stuff has gone to the wayside.
Maybe the people he's running with and taking advice from,
and it's a it's a different circle of people.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And he's kind of owned.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Up to the well my part of the Lebron breakup,
and now Lebron comes back over the top.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's like, you know what, I really miss that guy.
I really miss it.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I know we couldn't stand each other and he made
fun of me and I made fun of him and
I tried to get him traded and then when he
was coming back, he made fun of my coming home song.
But no, no, no, really miss playing with that guy.
You know what, it's time out. Feuds don't just and
you can't just end a feud just because you know
that's ridiculous. You know, you can't keep changing feuds on

(06:10):
us either. This is not the WWE where okay, I
pay attention to story. You can't just have a feud
be fixed and nobody know about it, right like ww
at least you see, okay, here's a feud.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Now you know why they're feuding. Then you see why
they make up. Okay, you get it right. But these
NBA feud it's like, oh, why don't you hate each other? No, no, no,
you'll know what. You got to keep us up to
date on stuff. Man. To be fair, both guys have
missed a lot of time due to injury.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
We need insider, someone whose job it is to every
month say this is who's beefing with who? What?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Scottie Pippen is still beefing with everybody. I'll go to
the lebron Kyrie feud.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's done now, Kevin Durant is now beefing with Devin
Booker or whatever we should.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
We need to make that part of the show. It's
the Beef Report.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And then and then we get Sam Ellie and to
do the voice over with he can fight and Big
Voice Bob for the.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Right to do the voiceover sponsored by season two of
Beef on Netflix. I mean you can't just that. Ali
Wong comes in.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Good.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, no Walking Dead crossover here, but I mean really,
I mean it's like, oh, wait, all of a sudden,
there's no, no, you're not for you anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Now you really miss the guy now, now you miss it?
Really you really miss him?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well now that he's winning, really now that he's winning
and people know because here's the thing. This is, this
is the calculated lebron cut and print. This This is
very much the Hey, when when Kyrie and the Mavericks
win this series, the title that we want doesn't mean
as much anymore, and maybe he'll actually start getting more
credit for what he did during that series. This sucks

(07:42):
for me, So I've got to be the bigger man
and say, boy, what a player he was.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
And what a credit he is to our game.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I mean, what he said today, what he said today, Hey,
I really missed playing running up and down the floor.
Really wait really, I'll tell you. But you know what,
sometimes hindsight's twenty twenty. Man. You got to get away
from a relationship and you go, you know, in the end,
you know that was petty, that was stupid. Now you
get away from a job. You got to hold on
in the moment, you've got some snow. Look, I'm just

(08:12):
saying for us, we got to hold on too. Yeah,
we need to just like survive. But I'm trying to
take it from the human angle. At some point you
hold on to that, it kills you.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
It says like Don Henley was thinking about right, Yeah,
it'll eat you up inside.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, but when you're Lebron James, you know you don't
need to say, hey, hey, hey, all that stuff, man,
that was great.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
No no, no, no, no, no no. But that's exactly
who he is.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's that's the calculated part of this is you know,
the world's now recognizing the genius.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
The real calculated part of this is here is Lebron
trying to artificially create a market for himself to show
the Lakers, I have options if you don't give me
what I want, which is money, whatever, saying a head coach,
the head coach I want.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
He's not involved with that at all.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
How dare you spit in the face of all those
insider fans. He's doing a podcast with the guys. Well,
I wanted to just say, sick of fans podcast with him.
You know, look, you want to know he is artificially
trying to create a mark because there isn't that big
a market for him. Okay, he's not going to the Sixers, right,
I told you that, We told you yesterday. He's not

(09:20):
gonna trade one big who is a great player, one
of the best players in the league. But you question
his motivation and his ability to stay healthy. For another
big who is one of the most talented players in
the league, who you questioned his motivation and his ability
to stay healthy, He's not gonna do that. He's not
going to Dallas. Dallas has had a great thing going
on right now. They're gonna upset win or lose. They're

(09:41):
gonna upset the Apple cart and say we need to
bring Lebron James in next year. No, no, no, that's
a They're not a Lebron. I don't think anybody is
a Lebron James away from anyone. That's why I keep
saying to the Laker that's the thing. Is the page
Man good as good a player as he is. It's
still a top ten, top fifteen player in the league.
There's nobody thinking we're a Lebron away because Lebron.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is not that guy anymore. Lebron is a guy that's
gonna come in.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
He's gonna suck all the oxygen out of the room,
and you're gonna try to figure out chemistry, and you're
going to try to figure out what works. The Lakers
have been trying for three years after getting rid of
Frank Vuggel, what works. We still have no idea. Lebron
needs a shooter. He doesn't need a shooter. He needs
a point guard. He doesn't need a point guard. They're
still trying to figure it out. You see that the
Lakers have had all kinds of different inventions of their

(10:28):
team just in three years. Russell Westbrook's the guy. Wester
Rustbrook's not the guy. Nobody thinks they're a Lebron away.
This is just him talking, trying to make it seem like, oh,
I have options, when his only option really is to
stay with the Lakers, still be the biggest star in
the league with the biggest franchise, and hope against hope
that next year can be different. Or you get lucky
in free agency, or someone wants to dump a player

(10:50):
who fits in with what you want to do and
the asking price is really low, Zach Lavine, all you
gotta do is hope that something like.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
That is going to be.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
They're ready to take a dime on the dollar. But
I mean, but let lebrin. He's not going anywhere, right,
But he's trying. I mean, we told you he was trying.
This is why we should we should be doing this
in Vegas. There will be at least two more teams
in the next couple of days. Lebron is linked to
We're starting with Philadelphia. Now we're hitting Dallas because hey,
Dallas is in the finals, and maybe another whole Hey
they could use Lebron. They could use Lebron. That kind

(11:19):
of weaves its way through it. He's not going to
either of these teams. You know, ten years ago Mark
Cuban would have done anything to land Lebron James. But
now it's are we really gonna be better? Do we
need Lebron or do we need you know, someone help?
Do we need another a bigger number three guy? Do
we need something? I don't know that we need another
guy that's gonna need the basketball, right, I mean that
that's not I don't think anybody, no team feels that

(11:42):
they are Lebron away from winning the time.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
The beverage already have the question of whether Luca and
Kyrie would work, and obviously they've gotten along swimmingly, so
complimentary of one another.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Lebron is now and see, let Lebron shuffle up. Lebron,
you know what I have? I got a Vodkan orange juice.
What do you want to add to that? Chocolate? Wait
what No, no, no, no, no, Raspberry, No no, we're
not gonna add that either.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
No, how vodka? Chocolate? And how about orange? How about it?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
How about how about grass? No, we're not gonna put
grass in either. No no, no no, how about how
about the pumpkin?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
No, not gonna be pumpkin. I just go ask Kyrie.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Crazy thing this, Just go ask Kyrie what it's all about.
When three guys really need the ball. I think he's
lit that one before. He's gone through that.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
A couple of times. I mean, it's just not and
in the end, but we've.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Talked about all the business interests, and from a straight
cash perspective, you can't get anywhere near the same level
of cash.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Now, I'd like the Lakers to call his bluff and say, hey,
go figure.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
It out, go have fun. Go call Mark Cuban, We'll
go get somebody else. So call Mark Cuban, We'll go
grab someone else in free agency. But it's the Lakers,
so they're not going to give up the revenue that
he brings to the table because no matter who you
bring in as a replacement, right, it's gonna be downside.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Think so what if they let him go they let
Lebron go, and then they draft Brownie. I kind of
dig that, well, JJ Redi's the head coach.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
All right, I'm going. And then the draft, all right,
now we're gonna go. We're gonna move up in the
draft to make sure we get Bronni. We're gonna trade
those first round picks and we're gonna move up.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
And now we're talking. Now, we're talking chaos theory of
the highest order.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Lebron goes to take a picture with Browny and and
and Polinka and Genie and no, no, no, just Lebron
out of the pic.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Just us here, just as all right, just a team
and smile, smile. He's not going anywhere, right, he's not.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
But he's we told you, he's artificially creating this environment
that maybe I can go. Seventy six ers yesterday Dallas Today.
There'll be one more tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Fill the air.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
We're gonna come on the here tomorrow night. There'll be
one more team tomorrow night. And you know what I'll leave.
I'll even give you a prediction.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
It'll be the Knicks, because somehow he'll cop Pine about
about MSG and what it would be like to play
there and how great it would be that'll be there.
You go, here's your third team. There're third team Philadelphia, Dallas,
the Knicks. Here we go at least with two of them.
You go to the Eastern Conference and you say, all right,
there's a path to bringing him in. You might be
able to win. Now you absolutely obliterate whatever team chemistry

(14:00):
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Speaker 2 (14:28):
We'll coming up next. We'll have more on the potential landing.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Finally, of JJ read it to the Lakers and boy
do we have a superstar quarterback throwing shade at another
superstar quarterback this I'm so excited, I said, superstar superstar.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Well then it's not Aaron rodru Stop stop matches, could
be Zach Wilson. That's coming. Oh well, we have a
Zach Wilson story.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
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He's back for five minutes. God to play Tears for Fears. Well,
you know I had someone I was just relaying this
to you, someone in our Facebook page. Thanks.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
However, you follow the show, saying that we needed Mary
to be you know, taken out of the building because
he didn't play enough Tears for Fears to torment you.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Alex ty Shirt, who was fast turning into the cal
Ripkin of Fox Sports Radio, where we count how many
consecutive shows he does before he leaves.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's like days without incident signs at we we're holding places.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
We never get off of one hand, we never get
past five.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
It doesn't happen. But welcome back, Alex ty Shirt. Hi, Jason,
what you were doing the herd for the last couple
of weeks? Yes, you get to play songs on the herd?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yes? Do you play Tears for Fears every single day
I was there? Did you really?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Really?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Two of them didn't have any and Colin doesn't go, dude,
what the hell?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Man?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
What is it? You'll love this?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
So Rick Buker was in studio on the chair and
I played it coming back and Rick shook his head
his great I loved it.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You see he knows the drill.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
I dig that.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I dig that, okay, And now do you start playing
more Tears for Fears? That we're gonna play it more
than once a show? Not only tormenting you also Rick Buker. So, okay,
very good, very good. You know who Rick Buker is,
no idea longtime friend of the show.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
He does. He just saw the font when a name
came up and says, oh, it's it's Rich Bucker. Oh
that's not to it is. Okay, great, that's right Rich Buker. Okay,
that's great. What does he do soccer? What is he
talking about? Is he tells?

Speaker 1 (17:15):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Rick Booker? Is that what he does? What did you say?
That sounded like you said something? I said, right, you
can't play that back real fast? Yeah? Do I see
b U c h E R R. I see. Oh
but I think that you did that. You know what

(17:36):
next time we have to do so I prove that
is you got to do it, and you got to
clip it off and send it to me so I
can see it. Okay, I got you. Why Why does
this guy play tears?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Hey, it's been a while since we had a great
NFL quarterback dilemma and we have now courtesy of C. J.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Stroud.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Right, Okay, I thought you were gonna talk about the
Denver Broncos.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
No, no, no, no, come on, we'll get to We'll
get to Zach Wilson running his number one with le
Broncos in a minute.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Oh but CJ. Stroud has taken aim at Aaron Rodgers. Right.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
He does a podcast and he talks about how much
he loves Matthew Stafford and loves Matthew Stafford's career. Certain
things Stafford does he would try to emulate. And he
went out of his way to troll Aaron Rodgers on
three separate occasions, talking about I don't know how Rogers
treats his teammates. I'd rather have Eli Manning's career than

(18:39):
Aaron Rodgers' career.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
And hey, uh you know Brady. I know how Brady
treated his teammates. Listen to c J. Stroud decide, I
want to start a war words with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
If you had to pick a career to have, I'm
gonna have Aaron Rodgers career or I'm gonna have Eli
Manning's career. Who can and you teake him?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
You want the rings? No, you don't want that's all
rings thought the macho man was dead. Yeah, you freak
oush I've been doing in the Super Bowl ring? You
want to have that helmet catch?

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
You throw to David Tyree, nobody knew who he was
before the helmet catch is nothing.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
You want the rings, So he says, I want the rings.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I'd rather have Eli's career than Aaron rodgers career. And
again other times he went on. He said, listen, Brady
is unbelievable. I know how he treated his teammates. I
don't know how Aaron Rodgers treats his teammates. So you
know it's personal a little bit because CJ. Strap went
out of his way to talk about Aaron Rodgers knowing
full well, I don't know how he.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Treats his teammates, and I don't want his career.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Okay, so this is something you want that thought out
there about Aaron Rodgers, right, because normally if you're a
quarterback asked, but other quarterbacks you go, oh boy, these
guys are both really good. I was such a fan
of Eli's growing up. That's how you are. So you
know he wants to get this out there. He has
decided I have had enough of Aaron Rodgers. For whatever reason, I.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Got to know this.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
This This is like w NBA, Hey, I haven't had
enough of Kaylyn Clark. I got enough of Aaron Rodgers now.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
But just like Angel Reese man whether you bought it,
you know, and she need to do maybe a better
selling job as a villain.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
She'll work on it. But in this case, for CJ. Stroud,
do I want MDPs? Do I want rings?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
And I'd love to know the pre show meeting as
to how much he helped, you know, put together what
the rundown is gonna be.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
We're gonna talk about that, right, Hey, what that what
we'll ask you about? Like Tank Dell and year two
in the office, ask me about Aaron Rodgers, ask about
sleep on Diggs coming in and no, no, no, ask
me about Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
What do you want me to ask you?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Like?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Do you like to just ask me about him?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Okay, I mean I gotta ask you about him. Dig
the fact that he went with Eli because you get
rings in New York.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Now, let's you know now that we know, look, he's
personal and he's throwing this out to Aaron Rodgers. Let's
deal with all three of those things. Okay, let's deal
with the share of those things. First thing is, I
don't know how Aaron Rodgers treats his teammates. Okay, I
see how he treats his teammates with the Jets. His
teammates all love him. I'll go back to Green Bay

(21:16):
that I'm pretty sure he treated his teammates in green
Bay pretty well, because if they didn't, we would have
heard those stories by now, just like we heard about
Russell Wilson when he left Seattle it was open season.
Russ had an office, he did this, he did this,
we would have heard if Aaron Rodgers was a bad teammate.
I think I'll say he treated his teammates pretty good.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I think the thing with Russ is that Russ was
other right, it was the team, and then there's Russ
with an office. There's Russ with nano bubbles. There's all
all of that kind of layering that was allowed to
happen before Peyton showed up.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
But that all goes into but I'm above you.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
But in terms of Rogers, right, he clearly took care
of his guys, like the guys that were his best friends.
He got jobs with the Jets and they grossly overpaid them.
So I feel Allen Lazard. I mean that he would
get him canonized, impossible. There would be a white puff

(22:12):
of smoke and he would be elected Pope if it
was up to Alan Lazar. Now he's even gonna be
on the team this year, but he shouldn't. So I
feel pretty good that he treats his teammate pretty well.
At worst, he was aloof to where there's not ill
will or my god, can you believe where what Aaron
Rodgers did right Because he held the team hostage a

(22:32):
couple of times. That's not being a great teammate either,
because it affects them, right, it affects their dollars.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
But that's more.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
That's part of it, and everybody. Everybody's gonna want their money, everybody,
So that part of it, you could say. But otherwise, yeah,
we had no no talk of him being you know,
an outright just bad guy. Yeah, so I feel I
feel pretty good that he treats his teammates well. Now,
do you want Eli's career or Aaron rodgers career. I'd

(22:59):
rather have Aaron Rodgers' career. Aaron Rodgers has won the
Super Bowl, He's been to two. He's going to the
Hall of Fame. Eli Manning won two Super Bowls and
in two of the most memorable Super Bowls you could
possibly imagine, he was clutching both of them. His career,
he was one game over five hundred eat Brady and
Bellich twice. Awesome, the perfect right, I'm saying those were awesome.

(23:22):
But Rogers also has won once. If Rogers hadn't won,
I could understand that, say, hey, listen, this guy's won too, man.
But Rogers has won one and he's been to two
and he's going to the Hall of Fame and he's
still playing. When Eli Manning was done when he was
thirty four years old, Rogers is blowing past that by
five six years. So yeah, I get that. I understand
it's about winning. It's about winning. But I think anybody

(23:44):
would say, oh, I'd rather that guy's career. That's going
to be a twenty year career, Hall of Fame, super Bowls,
anything he says makes a headline, or Eli Manning, who
if he's not Chad Powers or he's on the Manning cast. Okay,
I still would rather have his career. He doesn't win,
it's different, but he won a Super Bowl. So but
that's the get. The two Super Bowls takes him over
the top for me for a couple of reasons. Again

(24:04):
owing to the fact that you took down the Patriots twice.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
You're in New York.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
You lived up to the surname, right, because you equaled
your brother's total, one of which he got dragged to
the other one against the Bears. He didn't play particularly well.
Unfortunately for me, I had to witness Rogers one Super
Bowl win live and in person.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Fun. But it was at Jerry's palace, so it's great.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Had a good time, and it was against the Steelers,
and you know, I mean a lot of pomp and
circumstance and pageantry and whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
So it's great.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
But you know, for for Aaron Rodgers, say he doesn't
get the second one, just for the sake of argument,
he goes down as one of those guys. Well we'll
talk about a bit, right, you'll mention the MVPs, and
he's gonna be remembered as much for the off field
because otherwise he starts going down the All right, Marino's there.
There's there's other guys that have that have won a

(24:54):
Super Bowl and could be put in as like all
time guys. Right, Marino never got his, but he kind
of goes to the wayside.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
We got guys with three and four Super Bowls that
kind of get left out of any of these conversations, right,
And I think Rogers is at this point destined because
Eli always comes up because of the gravitas.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Well, those two super bowls. C J.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Strad will change his answer. After the Jets win this year,
then I'd rather have his career. He's got to what
are they gonna win the toilet bow? Now that just stop, dude.
We're gonna win fourteen games. We're gonna steamroll.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Through you guys. Put that on put that on record. Okay,
just it'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
He keeps changing. It was thirteen last Friday. Yeah, well
now it's fourteen and three because of what CJ.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Stroud said.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
No, no, because they have seen a lot of you're
gonna go from OTAs are you know, there's a lot
of great videos from watching the Texan No, no, no, no,
I don't get noches are really good. You're gonna hate CJ.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Stroud.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Now, now here's the third one. Here's the third one.
As much as c J. Stroud loved Matthew Stafford, he said,
if Stafford had Aaron Rodgers guys in Green Bay, Stafford
would have three to four more Super Bowls. Okay, now,
let's stop for a second. So if Matthew Stafford on
Green Bay, he would have three to four more Super Bowls. Now,
here's all open the door to that a little bit.

(26:06):
Has Rogers underachieved in the playoffs? Yeah, one hundred percent.
Now he got the team of the playoffs, so it's
not like they struggled getting to the playoffs. So let's
just say you're getting to the playoffs because he got
you there. And most of the time the division sucked.
So let's stulate to that, right, But as we always
because we always do that to Brady a little less
to Manning, and we somehow leave Drew Brees alone. But

(26:27):
look but because because Brady's always warned that them, oh
the division was terrible. Well, these other guys that were
all time greats, they were good. Yeah, but look at
what the division sucked too. But Stafford's not doing anything
in the regular season that Rogers didn't do. So let's okay,
So in the playoffs, Now, did Green Bay underachieve one
hundred percent? There's a couple of years where boy, they
were really good. And I'll just go back a couple

(26:49):
of years ago. You got the NFC Championship game at
home and you can't even score a touchdown offensively. So
as good as Matthew Staffords, you saw him get away
from Detroit and become, you know, and get much more
cachet because he wins the Super Bowl and he proves
that I can make that the team around me when
it's better. So three to four, that's a lot of
lunacy because Green Bay was never that good. It weren't

(27:10):
the Chiefs, right, It's not like you know, Roger with
the Chiefs every year, like doesn't matter, we just keep
rolling through. But I'll say this, would they have one
more Super Bowl? Would Stafford have two? Probably? Okay, if
he was playing, if he was playing with the Packers,
they're probably would one of those couple of seasons where
if he was playing at a high level like we've
seen him play, he would have been enough to get
them there and they probably would have won one of them.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
You know what the greatest part of this those that
for years when Stafford was in Detroit, and you know,
we had a few of those on air together. I
would defend Stafford against all covers. Right, you know who
else did that? Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
That's his favorite quarterback and for years it was always
Stafford was underserved, no, no, no, But he's a guy
that has been blasted from pillar to post by many folks,
and then he goes to the Rams and all of
a sudden like, oh look how good he is.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
He was always good. Stun yea. And it shows you
that it can't always all be the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
But when you take a quarterback and you take him
off a team that can't shoot straight and he put
him on a team with a pretty good head coach
and assystem, hey they can succeed.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
They can succeed.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
That's what's the thing.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I just like that it gets tied to that because
Rogers is the guy that was always now Matthew Stafford.
I love watching him, Like when we played Detroit, I
always loved being on the other sideline and just watching
him go to work.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And now with CJ. Stroud end up in opposition, I
love it. You look at the lab.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Just still get the last couple of years with Rogers
in Green Bay, when oh, we blamed you know, we
blame Lafleur for hey, why do you not go for
it on fourth down? You're kicking a field goal? You
get knocked out of the playoffs, you. You don't even
have an offensive touchdown at home in the cold weather
in the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
The year after that.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
So yeah, Rogers has to own that he can't go
all the play calling was bad. No, Rogers has to
own it in those big moments, he didn't come up right.
But is Stafford one of those guys that always gonna
play no, but one time, Yeah, I'll get I'll say
instead of three or four, if he had Rogers cast,
he would, Stafford would have another Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
I still think I'm the only guy on record saying
that Aaron Rodgers sucked for not telling Lafleur to go
blank himself and to keep the kicker on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well, it also allows you to have if you fail,
you have someone to blame, right, and they don't get it.
It's like Rogers yours Non, here's the thing, but if
you go for it, No, it's Rogers.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I have a fall gap.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
I know. That's like whenever we play games, like whenever,
because we love playing games with our friends, and if
we have game nights all the time, and and and
we get to a point where, hey, it's a big
question and I don't know the answer. Because if I
know the answer, I know you trust me on this.
If I don't know it, I always say, oh, let's
go with your answer, and my wife or somebody will
say you're sure.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I go yeah. Because that way, if we're wrong, I
can just blame you and it's not my fault. Like
that's it. Hey, we lose this game, I can just
blame you that you didn't put me out there. That works.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
We had another great hot NFL topic debate coming up
in about twenty minutes, but straight ahead, it looks like
one of the biggest questions in the NBA is about
to be answered.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Jason, Yeah, what's up Frostby? Did you sing this when
you walk into McDonald's. No, No, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Did you order a sheet cake? You know, because you
went yesterday and you're saying, what makes me so long?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I did not order it? Did not? I did not.
That's fantastic. Okay, No, that's the Smith remix. No mix.
No one's singing this one. No I didn't order a
sheet cake? Okay, we good. Did you break us any has?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
No, I didn't. I didn't. I'm sorry. Did you want some?
I'm sorry, I don't know you wanted any. As a crew,
we were working at radio station at a network.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Give me three, give me four cheeseburgers. You would have one,
and then you'd probably eat the rest because Tyshirt's not
having it because it's beef frostburg camera.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Or his head would explode. So you would just wind
up eating all of them. No, you'd eat the other ones. No,
I know, I'd eat them all before i'd left, like so,
I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to leave it
to risk.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'd leave it the chance that, oh hey, if I
bring these back and Harmon eats all of them, I'm
going to be out. No.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
No, I'll eat my burgers first.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
No.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I experienced that Thursday. I'll bring it with the wings
that I ended up having to eat on the way,
eat something.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Else on the way home.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Armon Lot,
the tirec dot Com Studios. All right, now, as time
goes on, you've heard Brian Finley talk about it, tonight,
we are inching closer and closer to the likelihood that
JJ Reddick will be the new Lakers head coach.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Look at the words you just used. We're inching closer.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
I'm sure there's already an agreement, but ESPN wants jj
Reddick to work the finals, so you're not gonna get
an announcement.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
But it's so close. It's so close.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Hey, let's give you some kind of news before somebody
breaks it, before we're ready to have it broken. And
I think my favorite part of this is today is boy,
Lakers are gonna be great, and everybody is showing video
from JJ Reddick's career of him hitting threes, and I
just keep going back to that part of Major League
two when Roger Dort says, I've fixed everything. I've activated

(32:34):
myself because he wasn't playing anymore.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I fixed up.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
I'm got like.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I figured it out.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I've activated myself. I'll be coming off the bench of
shooting guard. Now this is how I'm gonna fit. You
know what?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
He does figure prominently into the first couple episodes of
Clipped that came out.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I've activated. So he takes off his trench coat he's
wearing his Midian's jersey.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I've activated myself playing for the Veterans minimum, and I'm
now gonna be that shooter. Reddick is coaching wearing a
jersey and the Terraway pants can just go right in
if he needs to. Hey, Hey, Reeves, come on out.
I'm coming out business up top, coming in. He's got
the Tarraway pants, so he's got the shorts on underneath.
You know, look, I believed it when when this first

(33:15):
came out, and it's still true. I don't know how
he's going to change a culture because he's someone that's
going to fight for a cachet when he walks in
the door. This is a guy that played for a
while broadcasting throwing out hot takes. He's a hot take broadcaster,
and now he's gonna he's not just gonna coach a team.
He's gonna coach the Lakers. So he's gonna come in

(33:36):
and he's gonna have to do a couple things, right.
You have and it's impossible because you have a group
of guys that you have to come in and you
have to lay down the law and get them to
follow you. Well, that's not going to go well because
we've heard that's kind of the way JJ Reddick approaches things. Hey,
I'm this hard ass kind of coach. Okay, so that's
not gonna get those guys to buy him. Sure as hell,
isn't gonna get Lebron and AD to buy in. They're
gonna do their own thing. Yeah, but he's already got

(33:58):
a D. He's gonna be mad at him because he
him off his all defensive teams, first and second team,
a guy that folks were stumping for to be.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
The defensive player of the Year. I mean, hey, riddle me,
this coach.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
He's not gonna get Lebron and AD to buy in
to do what he wants him to do. Lebron is
even gonna have more of a belief and a desire
and AD to say, all right, he's in my guys
in here, I know what we're doing. I'll tell them
what we're doing, and everything is gonna be fine, Whereas
it could be a little difficult if I'm gonna tell
Darvin Ham what we're gonna do and he's gonna say, no,
I want you to do it this way. But JJ
Reddick's my guy, So I say, this is what me

(34:30):
and a D are gonna do and JJ Reddicks gonna say, hey, okay,
that's fine. I'm gonna say, go coach the other guys.
I mean, I don't know how you walk in to
the Lakers with no experience other than I'm playing, and
I get that now we can. You know, it's great
to think outside the box. We're hiring people we can
go out for here. Someone doesn't need to go and
be an assistant here for so many years and then
be a head coach at lower level here.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
You see. I love that, But this is a job
where you're coming right in into the fire and you're
expected to win and win big right away. And you
have two players that have been.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Incredibly difficult to coach their entire careers, and that's who
you got to coach in addition to getting the other
guys to buy in. I just don't see where JJ
Reddick is going to cut through and suddenly he's going
to be a difference. I feel like every Laker coaches
the same, whether it's Vogel now to to to Darvin
Ham and now to JJ Reddick's going to be the
guy's going to try his best to change things, but

(35:22):
in the end, it's gonna be up to whatever the
guys feel like they want to.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Mason, this is different. This is pat Riley in the
making right here. You just be happy you're not getting
Doc Rivers. Okay, just be hap. Why would you even say.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
That, because the one thing I can say is, I
know if the Lakers fail, JJ Reddick is not going
to do a press conference say hey, you know, I
don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Those guys were not good tonight. I'm I kind of
dig not my fault.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
We got the fictionalized versions of both of those guys,
I mean pat Riley Adrian Brody in the Winning time,
and then we've got clip the first two episodes, and
you got Doc Rivers being played by Lawrence Fishburn the
voice to do the voice.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yet I think I'd listened to Lawrence Fishburn more than
i'd listen to JJ Reddick. He's more authoritic and got
one practice where he gets after I got.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
He's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, yeah, No, I want to get I want to
back boys on the hood. When he had the ball,
bearings just kept rolling in his hand.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I was like, I was afraid.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I'm like, oh man him as my dad, I wouldn't
do anything. Step out of all, you know you got
that going for it. But yeah, Furious is deep man,
Furious is deep.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Furious styles one of the great names and characters in
film history. But yeah, legitimately, you're trying to build a culture,
change out component parts, get whatever Plinka can do in
terms of reconstructing the back half of this roster, and
you still have to try to climb the west, where
with those guys playing seventy games each you barely made

(36:43):
the play in.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I just don't see where it's going to be a bit.
It's gonna be a big headline, it'll be fun to
talk about, but the results will be very Darvin ham Like.
I just don't see how suddenly this is gonna change.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
You can do worse than doing things ham like, though,
good should exit out bouta Fresca exit Swellen Dome.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
If you like the CJ. Stroud quarterback debate, boy, do
we have a running back one for you coming up next.
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