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It's fine, he's already there. Yeah, but yeah, but you
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you gotta before the move to Nashville. Just gotta just
got it. Whoa, whoa, wait, what's happening? Oh that's been
out there for a long time. Smith, it's gotta like
the Fortnaire. He does it all. Jason is Zach will Wilson?
By the way, is it is who Zach Wilson? Maybe
it's called TS tight shirt later on? Okay, that's great, Hey,
he's paying attention. That true on the phone. The guest
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is Zach Wilson right now, but with us on the
line right now, a man who gave two Kopeta marcanoll
all the gambling advice he could. It's John Paul Morosi,
John Paul, what's happening, buddy? How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Did I just hear you say that? Jack Wilson, Jack Wilson,
long time majorly getting fielder for in Pittsburgh Pirates is
the number one quarterback somewhere right now? Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Does he? And Bravo do you forgetting Jack Wilson? Pretty
very nice, very nice Jack.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Wilson's son one year ago, very highly regarded draft pick
out of Grand Canyon University there in the Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
All right, Now, I want you to get Dan Petrie
into the conversation in the next few minutes.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Dan Petrie, great analyst on Bally Sports Detroit, the father
of Jeff Petrie, current Red Wings defenseman who was part
of TUSA at the most reason World Championships.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Now, I want you to get Mike Laga in.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Mike Laga was briefly a Tiger and then I believe
he was traded to the Brewer. That wasn't the same
trade in which Dickey Knowles. Dickey Knowles was around the
same time that Dickey Knowles was traded from the Cubs
the Tigers for a player to be named later who
was Dickey Knowles. Dickey Knowles was traded to Dickey Knowles.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
There's a reason why John Paul Morosi is the greatest
baseball insider there is. I remember Mike Laga because I'm
Sparky Anderson talking about him in the in the exhibition season,
On's going He's gonna make you forget every power hitter
you ever saw. I was like, wait, what, we had
sixteen home runs Mike in your career? Really Okay, Mike,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
He did say something quite similar about Tory Leavello.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
By the way, all right, well, maybe he meant to
say manager. He could if he said hy Jerry, maybe
that would have worked out. Okay, and he was right.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
He probably said he will one day lead a team
to the World Series, which is true. He will lead
a team to the World Series. The incorrect part was
as a short stop. That's the incorrect.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Hey are you are you going to London this week
for Mets and Phillies?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So I'm actually not, but I will be watching a
very carefullyar from back in the States. By the way,
I do love just how much great sports we have
this weekend period. Of course NBA Final, Deelicup Finals, and
then you have both the Mets in the Phillies in London,
and the Yankees and the Dodgers, each one of which
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would be an amazing showdown. But they're now taking up
the same weekend, which I love around the clocks, great
baseball action and of course beginning early afternoon hours Eastern
Time from London on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So now, wait, London's not mad They're getting the Mets.
Like there's no blowback that Hey wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
you're giving us the Mets like there's no blowback on
the Wells.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
As you know, I do have a lot of international
connections there in Europe, just through family ties, et cetera.
None of them have have phoned back to me to say,
wait a minute, wait a minute, Morosi, are you sure
that you're sending your two best teams to Europe? And
I would say, well, one of the two bests is going,
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and then the other one is the Mets. So we
are we are, we are trying to grow the game,
and so therefore we have sent the Philly But as
you know, Jason, to have a ball game, you must
have a second team there. And that second team will
be the Mets. One of the best teams that Major
League Baseball going to London Stadium and the Mets will
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be there as well.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well, it's a good warm up for the Belmont Stakes
that'll be run in the middle of the day on
Fox as well. So we got that going for us, JP.
How many of those Mets players either don't make it
back from London all together. You know, here's an extra
day or two off while we try to trade you.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
How about that. By the way, wouldn't it be interesting
if there was actually a big trade that happened while
they were all in London, And I don't think we've
ever had of course, this is multiple times we've had
the London Series now, We've never had a blockbuster trade
happen while a player has been in Europe at LISA
during the course of the Major League season, So maybe
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that will change. I tend to think we're gonna get
a lot closer to the deadline before that happens. But
I know we've gone back and forth a lot about
the Mets in there their travails in this moment of time.
I would think Jason that the way they have played
the last couple of weeks, the lore Lopez situation, just
being one small footnote on it, has made it very
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clear this team has to be a seller. Alonso has
to be available, and they are not anywhere close to
being as good as the Phillies or the Braves. And honestly,
this is a venue, London Stadium that is very hit
or friendly. We saw that and be the case of
course with the Red Sox and Yankees in the initial
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London series. They need to find a way just to
put together a brave face and a competitive effort for
a couple of days, because given the way the Phillies
are swinging it, this could get quite ugly if they don't.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, I'll tell you what. Not only that, John Paul,
is that I just keep thinking. This is like after
seeing how where we're at with the baseball season. Now,
we had the Memorial Day check in, and I say,
if the Phillies ruin are Yankees Dodgers World Series, I
Am not going to be happy, because that's all I
can think of right now. The series this weekend is
this is the year, if any year, we should get
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Yankees Dodgers, probably the highest rated World Series in forty years.
I this should be the year it happens.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You're right, it should be. And yet there are some
other potential spoilers there. You could see the Baltimore Orioles,
who are playing as well as any other team in
the American League right now. I think they're right there
neck and neck with the Yankees. But I do agree though,
with Toto and Judge together and again, to see these
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two teams play this weekend, it would be great for
baseball from a standpoint of just marketing the sport. If
it's a hey, we'll we'll see you again in a
few more months. It'd be unique and a pretty special
season if that were to be the case. But I
see a lot of great baseball right now. And I
also see a team in the Mariners that, even though
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they're not necessarily competitive with the Yankees and the Oriols
right now, based on the strength of their pitching, I
believe they could be a spoiler in October. So I agree,
as the year non aligned baseball fan and someone who
loves just to talk about the game, it'd be a
lot of fun. We'd be front page the news in
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every newspaper the country, which is great. But I see
a lot of teams that could stand in the way
of a Dodgers Yankees World Series. I still have some
concerns about the durability of the Dodger pitching staff. But
you look at the Yankees, and we'll see it this weekend.
Those two players, Soto and Judge as teammates on the Yankees.
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You follow up any of the great teammate tannems the
Yankees have had historically in terms of at the same
time having a season quite like this and where they
could be going. This is special, one of the very
best tandems the Yankees have ever had in a single season.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Nod you be on the just the quick side note
of me watching you know, prospects and young guys whatever.
And you mentioned with Seattle Julio Rodriguez is up to
two seventy but not hitting for any power at this point.
What happened to him in Torklesin and Corbyn Carroll, Well,
I think they are.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
All unique cases, but you're right.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I mean this is now.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
A league wide issue where whether it's the launch angle
school of thought, which perhaps is part of it for
some of the guys that you mentioned, Carol, I think
is much more related to the injury that he's sustained
last year, and he did have some brighton moments in
the postseason, but I think we're talking about someone that
hasn't quite been the same since the middle of last year.
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I'm mystified at the lack of power from Jay Rodd,
although I do think it'll pick up and he'll get going.
Torcos though, is a real mystery, and he's someone that
was once upon a time in twenty twenty the number
one overall pick just has not worked out in the
way that we thought it would, and I think that's
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a to be optioned down to the minor leagues at
this stage after he hit thirty homers last year. He
needs to There's two different steps for me with Torkalsen,
and again think that he is the most most worrisome
of this group right now. He needs to get himself
to a spot where he can just have good at
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bats this year and be a productive player, and then
probably in the off season, a more comprehensive look at
what has gone on and what has to happen for
him to get back, because guys, it has been a
mystery for a team that's good, the Tigers. They're not
a great team, but they're a good team, and right
now Torklesen simply is not helping them.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And they'll be inside of John Paul Morosi with us here,
the Jason Smithzer with Mike Carmen Lifrothetirech dot Com Studios,
and I welcome you in by saying you've been giving
two kopeter moreno gambling advice. We've seen this story the
last twenty four hours. A player that likely nobody knows
who he is, but he is now the first player
in one hundred years to get a lifetime ban for gambling.
(11:09):
He gambled on a lot of games with the Pirates
when he was there, when he was an injured player. Now,
I want to ask you this on a scale of
one to ten. If one is they're not very concerned,
and ten is it's a really high priority. We have
seen gambling and players get suspended in the NFL for
not doing the right do it the right way. MLB,
now we've seen it. How big a problem does Major
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League Baseball see players gambling? As is it, hey, this
is the only time we're here, it's very low Or
is this a it's up at ten and they're really
worried about a lot of this.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, it's a really important question, and I'll answer it
in two different ways. They are extremely vigilant and careful
about this because it strikes at the assence of what
the sport is. It's the integrity of the competition. And
it's important to point out that, of course, the five
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players to spend it today, none of them actually wagered
on games in which they participated. The Marcano distinction, as
you point out, Jason, is that he was on the
injured list of the time that he had a place
in wagers that included parlay or whatever it was on
a piece of action with respect to the pirates. So
(12:23):
this is something that MLB, because of the way that
they are communicating with their players in spring training in
English in Spanish, is a very serious issue and I
think it only works it meaning legalized sports gambling and
having the partnerships that we see exists with MLB. It
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only works as a revenue stream as a part of
the baseball and sports business, which it is right now.
It only works if there is full integrity of competition.
You cannot have this component unless you can trust that
everything is above board. And I guess in this case
the small silver lining is it does not appear that
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there was any inside information that was being utilized to
place a wager. And these these players were not physically
participating in any of the games in which they had
placed wagers. That being said for them were banned for
a year. One of them was banned permanently, and so
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that just tells you how serious the issue is. And
I think also it also tells you that in the
modern manner in which wagers are placed using a lot
of the online platforms and different certifications. If you run
a foul of the regulations, you are very likely to
get caught because the paper trail is there. None of those.
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This is with a bookmaker one hundred years ago and
the Black Sox scandal and shadowy figures and these sorts
of things that are that are made into Hollywood movie.
This is a swipe and a swipe, and your reputation
is different. And I think that it has to be
very very clear the ease with which the guy sitting
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at the bar can place the wager on a game
does not mean that you MLB team employee should be
able to do the same thing. The rules are different
for you. The commissioner statement said that the communication all
along has been that and there need to be a
lot of education re education about this because clearly, based
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on the penalties handed down guys, this is a very
serious issue in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi,
MLB Network, NHL Network insider John Paul is always by
the Appreciate your time, my friend, and if some big
trade happens with the Mets, I'm going to tell MLB
Network to fly you to London so you could get
the first interview with likely Peter Lonzo.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I would love that. I would love to support that
news for first Fox Sports Radio, whatever time of night
it is, second, MLB network, and then third naturally the BBC,
because we would have to break into coverage of question
period whatever's going on in the royal family. We got
to make sure we get to the first and foremost
(15:18):
news there on the BBC.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
All right, practice your British accent because that's how you're
gonna have to do it. There we go, there it is,
he'll have to do that. I have one question for
you before we stop. Yees, go ahead, Well you when
we talk about this, yes, this lifetime ban. Yes, Is
it worse to have the lifetime ban or to have
it publicly recorded that you only were successful on four
percent of your bets?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think I think you just can do the band
and you seem like I'm a bad boy boy. Now
you're like your band and you're really bad at when
you sucked. Yeah, that's that's the worst part, that you
lost your income and you were bad at it. For
why you've got busted exit out about a Fresca swalling
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(16:01):
reportedly is their team's number one quarterback right now, Zack
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Campy's that's a place, not a player. But Reggie Cleveland
was a player. He was. Yeah, Well I think he is.
I mean, Mike usually brings up the dead guy. Well,
(16:22):
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That just makes no sense why the Rob Parker line
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Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, Live
from the ti iraq dot com Studios. Welcome back to
Alex ty Shirt, who has been away for the last
couple of weeks working on the Herd. This is in
case you didn't hear that. Yeah, no, it's It's okay.
(17:41):
He wasn't such a liar. Mets are only like five
games out of the playoffs because the National League is terrible.
That's all right, all the five games out of the
last playoffs pot. It's like when the Knicks got up
to the ju seed in East. Well, we were really good.
The Mets are not Nick's good Mets. No, that works,
but still just run with nine games under five hundred,
(18:01):
we're only five. Think we're only four games out. Actually
four math. That's the beauty of it. A couple of
really good teams. It's math. But it's not the National
League is terrible. Like you have the the top, you
have the two best teams obviously, and then it's like,
oh boy, that's kind of tough after all. But that's
fun though. Like when we were talking with John Paul Morosi,
uh kind of to join us MLB network at John
(18:23):
Morossi leave out the h j O N M r
os I in the Twitter verse for all his latest
you know, joking about trades for the Mets, Like how
do you not think there's a possibility with a little
bit of a wind streak all of a sudden, like, hey,
we shifted and now we're part of the buying fruit.
Five games under five hundred. We're only a couple a
couple of games, and in a short series anything can happen.
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And Diz is gonna start his rehab assignment. Yeah, maybe
he comes back bigger, faster or strong. We continue to trumpet,
we continue to play games in the ninth then, yeah,
all those games. Look, Sammy Zay is not been getting
it done with regular I really I can't even watch
ninth inning of games. I can't even watch seeing it
with you, okay, bottom of the ninth I can't watch
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but it's a four run lead, does it?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You were staring at your computer like you didn't even
want to watch. That was awful for it to go
and Clode again, I can't watch the ninth of the
just it's good for me. And on the video camera,
I mean, you know we we get the reactions live
and in living color. Now, yeah, I'm going to ask
you guess who today ran with the ones could be
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the number one quarterback with his team? Justin fields? Justin Fields? Good, guess,
very good. That's going to be more of a Week
five NFL thing when they realized that Russell Wilson stinks.
But no, the answer is Lock. It's not Drew. The
answer could be Drew Lock again week five for the Giants.
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Maybe Week five. But Alex ty Shirt, who for some
reason has wanted to blow this teas for the last
twenty five minutes, Yes, exact, Sleep and Wilson. What do
you mean, There's no way. I know, I don't know,
but I don't know what you know? What you don't know?
Maybe he went through some kind of think tank in
the last five or six days learning about sports instead
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of really working on another show. Every single time I've
ever used his name. It's never been right. Why now, Well,
he was trying to go through the most likely to
hang out with his mom's friends. Yeah no, because normally, No,
this is why I think Tyer's been doing things is
normally he would say John Stamos, like that's what he
would say, is it John Stamos? Mom, John Stamos, Oh
you don't with John Raemon? Oh did you really try
(20:42):
to dm? John Stamos? I thought about it. Hey, great hair,
I'm Alex. Hit me back. This is standard. I'd love
that at him. On No, ty Shirt referred to him
as Uncle Jesse. Yeah, that's kind of tough. And he
actually he actually texted Denver Pyle, the original Uncle Jesse,
and he didn't get didn't hear anything back? That's kind
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of what it was, Sheriff Roscoe. No, no, no, no, that
was James Best. No, I know Denver. Then Jones was Cooter,
and Carl Brook was Boss Hog who was also a
hero in the war. Right, and what's his name was Enis?
I can't remember his name. I can't remember Enis. Enis
(21:26):
was a tall, skinny dude. Ah no, no, no, it's
Henny Schroyer. Sundys very nice cock. You know we got
Flash coming. He had the dog that didn't even move
that he called Flash. That was the funny boy. No,
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it is Zach Wilson who ran with the one. Now
is he the Broncos number one quarter? He is currently
in the boar's nest. I will I will borrow from
Bill Maher. I don't know this for a fact, but
I know it's true. So Jack Wilson running with the
ones today at Broncos practice, and apparently they're all getting
(22:07):
a chance to show that they could be the starting
Quurt just said, everybody running with the ones. Peyton Manning,
he had a couple of snaps. Let Ryan Greasy, Sure,
Craig Morton team a couple of passes. Jake he had
to put down the mushrooms and get back under center.
No he didn't put them down. Here you go handing
them out to everybody. Here, you try these and then
(22:28):
I'm gonna go play quarterback. All right, great, this is
gonna be fantast this man. Who else we got Kyle Orton?
Bring back the neck beer? Oh my goodness. Uh So,
I don't again, I don't care if this story is true.
I don't care if it's a projection. I don't care
if this is NFL aggregator getting a bunch of stuff
and throwing this out there. I don't care if it's false.
(22:51):
This has to happen. This is great. Zach Wilson has
to be of all the things we have seen, right,
Jared sent him coming off of last year. Maybe he's
gonna need a chance. No, no, no, we rafted bo Nicks.
He's our guy. We drafted the seventeenth best quarterback in
college football, and he's our franchise guy. No, no, no, no.
Zach Wilson has to win this job. He has to
win this job. I mean it's good for him, it's
(23:12):
too good. Yes, it's the best thing for America. If
Zach Wilson wins this job, I don't see how. There's
only one problem. There's only one reason. There's one reason,
one reason why I can't see him winning this job.
And it's not bow Nicks being drafted as highly as
he was. Nothing to do with bon Nicks. It's got
nothing to do generally independent of those independent of Bicks.
There's only one reason why I can't see Zach Wilson.
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What that is, It's one reason if the thing is
to see. That's the thing with you. You you, you
try to look bigger. Yeah, you gotta simplify it, you
got you gotta simplify thing, right the kiss, keep it simple,
stupid right, you get You get too wrapped up in
a lot of minutia. Here's the reason. But the specificity
brings it such clarity. I know, I mean, we got
to work our way through a man. I know sports
is nuanced. There's a lot of crazy things that happened,
(23:58):
but sometimes you gotta understand, all right, I just got
I have to know. The biggest thing is this how
you get to the two comma job. This is by
just saying something, just blurting it out instead of trying
to go nuance. Yes, that's how you do it. Okay,
Because if the only take credit for everybody's careers, of course, yes, yes, yes, say,
you won't know why you're talkue. So there's only one
(24:19):
reason why one can't see Zach Wilson winning the starting
quarterback job again. Nothing to do with Bonnicks. I'm struggling
to nothing to do with jared'stdam to reduce it to
one thing. Nothing to do with Sean Payton. Nothing, no, no, no, no, No,
is it ryme went mats. No, no, does not, because
he's going to be pitching for the Mets this year.
The only reason he can't win the job. I can't
(24:41):
see him winning the job is he stinks. That's the
only reason why he can't win it, because he's sticking.
Frostberg was trying to allude to the fact that he
still had the stink of the Jets on him. No,
he's he's he's all in orange now, he's not even
anything green. I think probably owns anything green in his
wardrobe anymore. Got rid of all he burned it all.
Oh yeah, he probably is. I bet you he had
(25:02):
one of those things where all his Jets gear he
had a house sale, Like who did Rich Rodriguez did that.
He got fired by Michigan and he sold all the
all the Michigan Garyote Yardsne. And we've been seeing it
more and more with the college athletes earning a couple
of bucks on the way out the door. Here's all
my team issued stuff. I'm not there anymore now. Outside
(25:24):
of that, outside of the stink, there should be no
reason why he can't be the starting quarterback. There should
be no reason, absolutely none outside of the bow Nicks
Jared Stidham. Yeah, I mean there should be no the
fact that Sean Payton may have a liking problem with him.
You know he doesn't. Sean Payton said this about Zach
Wilson today quote, we just felt like, man, we'd love
(25:44):
to work with this guy. It wasn't too long ago.
We remember grading him and we felt the investment was
worth it relative to his skill set and his talent.
We spent the better part of a month and a
half working on that train. Well cons now, stop, there's
no way you just picked up the phone and said, hey,
you're gonna trade out? Yes, what do you give us?
How about a conditional? Well taken? Do you think maybe
(26:06):
it did have a maybe? It happened over six weeks
and they brought it up in a conversation over drinks
at Saint Elmos and a couple of giant jumbo shrimp
in that cocktail saw. We spent a month and aad
and then they got tabled. They forgot about it and say, oh, yeah,
we were actually talking about that. Whember it was three am.
We were singing piano, man, Hey we trade for Zach Wilson.
(26:30):
Why to kind of troll Robert Solo with the whole
thing that happened with the coaches. No, because he's good,
I lunch you da, maam, all right, hit me up
with this in a couple of weeks again, let's just
see next six weeks later. Is a real estate novelist
who never had time for wive and he's got the
drunken lyrics to Piano Man as well as a note
(26:54):
to self circle back on the Zach Wilson thing. We
spent a month and a half working, really a month
and a half working on again, it could have been, Hey,
here's April first. You gave us May fifty. You gotta
know what a conditional six sixth round? Boys, it's six round.
I mean, really spent a month and a half more.
That's something that gets done in four minutes. That's like
a Brad Pitt Billy bean trade and moneyball. Call me saying, hey,
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Saby Samster. Yeah, first guy called me back, gets Venafro, Hey, Suzanne,
who's on the line, Steve Phillips Never mind, Hey, trade
is done, and it's I mean that's how that's how
that Zach Wilson trade could get done. That Dukes, Yeah, yeah,
that's it dropped the mike moment from front right there.
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I almost feel like, do we have to explain when
you When no, I think it's like you got you
got it. Okay, yeah, if you know a real one,
you know a real one. It's really it's it's I'm
trying to see how this is there. He's being propped
up as if we worked from it really really were.
He was a guy that Jets couldn't give away. If
you really liked him, you would have looked at his
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his tape and looked at him much faster to try
to get him from there. He was a guy that
Jets were gonna cut. It's an unbelievable trade by the
Jets because they actually got something for him. Okay, yes,
you got a draft pick, you saved a little bit
of money. Hey, I thought they were just gonna cut.
And he goes through, Hey, do you want a trade
for him? Sure? Month and a half, I could have
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done that trade again. In a minute, I could have
done that trade. Well, watch me trade for Zach Wilson.
Watch this, Watch this, watch this. But you're not gonna say,
all right, we're flipping a coin. It's a sixth or
seventh round pick. Sean Pagne's not going to a microphone
to say that he's got to sell it, that there
was some value. There was really a discussion, and the
Jets still loved Zach Wilson, and that you know, they
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had to do some harsh negotiating to get him off
their hands. Now, you and I, we could cut through
it and say, ah, it's a sixth round pick and
dismiss it. No, Sean Payne's trying to sell you. We
valued this guy, and it took six weeks. Not call
it in the air air air heads, sixth round, tails,
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seventh round. That's a trade I would have made if
I was single and there was a woman I really
wanted to impress. Hey, come and watch me work for
a little bit. Okay, great, Hey, hey, you want to
watch me trade for Zach Wilson. You can't just do that.
I could do that in a minute. To watch this,
Watch when I could get done in a minute. Wait
a minute, I forget about that. But just watch watch
me work. Watch how great I am at this. I'll
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call a guy I haven't talked to in months, and
I'll have Zach Wilson inside of a minute. Watch this. Hey,
Shawney Shaw Shaw, mister Payton, Baybey Paybee. Hey, listen, do
you want Zach Wilson just like give me a sixth rounder?
Oh hey, all right, gright, Watch me work. Look at
that two dukes that's out. You said three, You said three,
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found two now because he really stinks. Watch me work?
Is that impressive? I just trade. I just traded for
a guy the background, Like Siri, watch work work. If
you were here to watch me from the beginning of
the idea of training for Zach Wilson until I executed it,
you were here for the entire time the outs event
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of execution. Let's go to dinner right now. The Jason
Smith Show with My best friend Mike Carmon coming up next.
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Friday night, we actually did predict the future of what's
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The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend Mike Carmon
Live from the tirec dot Com studios. No, Jason cole
is not joining us right now now. Yeah, on Friday,
we told you that, you know, there's no way Lebron.
Let's the next week go by without taking over the
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headlines and making it about him, because we have a
week to go between now in the NBA Finals. This
is what Lebron does. I gotta have the conversation about me.
And we told you, hey, one of the most likely
things Lebron could do. Number one was and there are
three things from least likely to most likely least likely
was we get a story he and Brony have to
play together. We're like, eh, maybe but probably not. Somewhat
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likely is that the Lakers are gonna hire JJ Reddick
is their head coach. Okay, maybe we're hearing that's very
very h I mean it's been out there a bit,
but he maybe comes to fruition, but still no official announcement.
He's the next pat Ryway. But the winner we said
this is most likely is Lebron will be linked with
three or four teams next week as where he could
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end up leaving the Lakers, and we're gonna see the
push because this is the only leverage Lebron James has
because his whole life is here with the Lakers. The
Lakers now he's really not going anywhere, but I gotta
make it seem like I can leave so I can
get what I want, which is another year on his
deal and more money, or a promise to draft Browny,
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whatever else, whatever he wants. Listen, you're gonna see him
linked with three or four teams. He said this Friday, Well,
we're got two more days until Game one of the
NBA Finals, and we got two teams. Now Lebron is
linked with one, the seventy six ers. We had the
report yesterday the Sixers want to go after him, maybe
a couple of other players. Yeah, that was double down,
and it started to surface about a week ago, and
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then it got full on run as he was listed
with a number of people because I think he need
more to clicks. Yeah, yeah, right, because you're saying Jimmy
Butler and stuff ain't gonna get h but Lebron's gonna
come back. So that was yesterday. Today it's the Dallas
Mavericks because Lebron very slively let drop in the podcast
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he does with JJ Reddick that there's one player he
really misses lining up alongside. I will call Kyrie the
Wizard all the time.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
There was nothing on the basketball floor that Kyrie couldn't do.
And sitting here watching it, I'm like, I'm playing like
so happy and so proud and to watch him and
continue his growth and whatever case may be. And at
the same time, I'm so mad at the same time
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that I am not his running mate anymore. He's the
gifted player the NBA has ever seen. Okay, he has
the best gifts I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Okay, let's just let let's just stop. You know, the
five times I played with him, I absolutely didn't hate him.
I remember those games. Those were five great games. Okay,
stop for a second, they were feuding, they hated each other.
But now Lebron, oh, everything is fine. First of all,
you got to tell me when feuds are over, if
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they really are over, right, you can't just let stuff
disappear behind closed doors. We need to know if you're
not needing ceremony. But here's a road. Yeah, I mean,
we got to know. Okay, this feud is happening that
we need to literally bury a hatchet. We need a
few insider to tell us not of this dispute like
a swoot that insider. Hey, are these two guys beefing?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Hang on?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Did hang on? And then no, not beefing. There's no
beef there. He don't want no beef with Jason and Mike.
Here's now the second team that Lebron is. Boy, I
miss not playing with Kyrie, who is not going anywhere.
He is a Dallas Maverick and he is in the NBA.
Fan but you missed the important the wizard. If only
Ozzie was able to show up, he can be there
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and now introducing your Dallas Mavericks Kyrie in his mouth. Look,
but yeah, there's two. This is I mean, this is great,
right we told quite like really I should have bet
this in Vegas. Hey, number of teams Lebron is linked
to and actually the teams involved and you have the Mavericks.
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I'll tell you the same thing I said about the
Sixers last. Lebron is not going to the Mavericks. First
of all, the Mavericks are in the finals without him.
Nobody is a Lebron James away from winning anything anymore. Yes,
he's still a top fifteen player in the league, but
it's not ten years ago where Hey, we need Lebron.
Lebron would go to the Mavericks and suck all the
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oxygen out of the room. It didn't work with him
and Kyrie before. And now, oh, by the way, Luca,
who is a better player than both of them, how
is that gonna work? But this is Lebron wanted you
to think I have options, dude, Mark Cuban, he would
have done anything to get you ten years ago. Now
he's not even gonna take your phone call. You are
not the same guy. I'm sorry. I know you're drumming
up interest when we all know it's just going to
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be to get the Lakers to capitulate to you and
give you what you want. And that's eventually what the
Lakers are gonna do. Because it's what the Lakers do,
they will give him what he wants. So he stays
he's not going anywhere. The Mavericks wouldn't take his phone call.
He's not going to this. He's not trading Anthony Davis
for Joel Embiid. That's traded. That's the Spider Man meme.
I'm the same guys pointing back to each other. I'll
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take one guy that can't win a title, and I'll
go to him with the other guy that I want
a title with four years ago. No, I'm not doing it.
Not doing it oft Injured big men sometimes a bit
difficult to get along with. That'd be good. I would
love to see him show up in in Dallas, though,
because you get to do the whole Dark Knight thing
and just rolling the ball to the center of the
court and say make it quick as the three of
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them try to kill each other. Because that'd be fine.
Who wants to see me make up basketball disappear fighting over?
I mean, look, the Mavericks, the Mavericks, if they need anything,
it's not a Lebron James to come another guy that
needs a basketball, and let's get rid of really some
of the enforcers, do you guys. He's not gonna take nobody.
He's not gonna take less money. That's the one thing
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you know. He's not gonna That's anywhere he would go
he would make less money. He's he can get his
one sixty two with the Lakers, right, But he's not
gonna say, hey, I'll come in for four million. Now
that's what I can. What he did, but that's not
what he's not gonna do it. No, he's not going
to the Sixers, go to the Mavericks. And but again,
we'll get two more teams between now and Thursday. We'll
get two more he's linked with like Yanks and who
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oh Nix. Definitely, because he'll talk about he'll do a
podcast where he's waxing poetically about playing at ms, talk
about we have but what's the other one?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Coming up next? We maybe Lebron will mention where he's going.
But we got a big story out of the NFL.
We got some big time trolling to get