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Jason and Mike explain how Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher Paul Skenes hit another level in his rise to fame tonight. And the Knuckleheads dish out their NBA Finals MVP picks!

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Speaker 1 (00:48):
I said, we had one crazy story from the WNBA.
We're crossing our t's and dotting our eyes with I
actually lied, there are two. Uh So before we get
to the serious one, let's talk about the crazy one
that went on tonight. And it's really great to see
that Alicia Clark of the Las Vegas Aces is having
a lot of fun with this on social media because

(01:09):
what's gone viral in the last few minutes is a
play from tonight's game, and again, I love the W.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
NBA makes headlines every single night. It's so awesome. It's W.
I know it's it's the dub. It's just the dub.
That the dub is.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Meganheadline headlines the dub, no, No, no, and called the dub.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
You sure, I Ken, Why can't the W no no no,
the dub. The dub sounds better. The dub sounds better.
You saying do doesn't sound better than the W.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's deader than the W. The dub is better than dub.
In sports, we always make things shorter, have nicknames anyway.
So I'm just gonna call it the dub.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
What's shorter than the letter W dub.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
That dub is shorter than W. It takes less time
to say dub than W. And you keep saying what.
Then just keep saying W over and over W the W,
the W, THEWW, no dub.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
The dub. Everybody knows you sound trying to man the
respect of their name.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Now, dude, you watch the du. No, that's the cool thing.
It's it's a great street credit. Hey you watched the
dub last night? Man A dude, are you kidding? That
was awesome?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
There are a lot of teams that won you. Do
you want me to call you? Tell me to call
you Michael, Let me call you Michael Patrick Harmon or
use your want me to call you Mike? Or what
do you call me? Wa? Wait? Do you want me
to be that formal with you? Michael? Call me sir?
You know you call it sir. I'm not gonna call
you that. Come on, that's not gonna happen. That's not
gonna happen either. I'd rather i'd.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Call you eminence front before I would call you that,
because you're a put on as long as.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Someone in the background is going bamp.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
He would eat a vegetable before he called you that.
What kind of vegetable? What kind of vegetable? It depends.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I don't Mike, if like, if you know, if you
toast or uh chart broccoli?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Oh yeah, I love that. That's my favorite vegetable. Without
a doubt, I could.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I could eat charge, but I could do a competitive
eating contest on chard, brocoley and due.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I don't believe you, well, I think I could. I could.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, I don't know if they do such a thing.
Like that, because is there an interest level in that?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
But I don't know. They might. I'm sure there's a
charred broccoli eating contest somewhere, you know how butt your
tight shirt and I can have a charred broccoli eating
contest and it would be close, not at all. Why not?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Because you don't eat broccoli or vegetables or even fruit
the way I do.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
I just well put to the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's a competitive You eat as much as you can, Yeah,
in a short time frame.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
That's how it works. Stay in the W. I'll be
in the NBA camp it's the DUB. We'll stay in
the dub. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
So Alicia Clark tonight, this is you know, part of
the Vegas game tonight against the Dallas Wings. Inbounds the
ball for the Aces. Now it's a backcourt inbounds and
nobody's really guarding the inbounds. The Dallas is allowing them
to inbound the basketball. And Alisha Clark, who's thirty six,
has been in the dub, in the DUB, has been

(03:43):
in the.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
W for a long time, right.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
She was a leading scorer in the NCAA for three
years while she was playing in college.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
A Riqueo Gunbalwalle is just standing.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Near half court ready to just pick up the point
guard whoever winds up getting the ball bringing it up court,
andha Clark just passes the ball right to a Gunbawalle
like she's not even She's fifteen feet twenty feet away
from the closest player on Alisha Clark's team, and she
passes right to a gun be Walle who just takes

(04:13):
a dribble and of course hoists up at three because
I told you a Gunbawally just loves to shoot. Nobody
was able to draw the fall on the rebound. Yeah,
I mean, she gets the ball is one on one
and decides I'm throwing up the three. I'm told you, man,
She's Kobe. She shoots all the time. It is awesome
to watch her play. But like I've never seen this,
like the closest thing I could think of with a

(04:34):
turnover like this was one.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Time early on it might have been.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
His rookie year with the with the Clippers, lamar Otom
tried to bring the ball in bounds just by dribbling
it in. Referee just referee just blew the whistle and
they turned the ball over and the other team got it,
like he just thought, Yeah, I'm just gonna bring it
like how we did it when we when we play,
you know, in the courtyard.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I'm just gonna dribble it. It's like, no, what are
you doing, dude?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Turnover like she first, and it's not like she was
ever teammates with a gun and everything. She just passes
right to her and you see your teammates going, what
are you doing?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Well, there's that moment where everybody looks at each other
like wait what and then she goes and takes the shot.
It had a clear path to the basket, but damn it,
I'm taking this three.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
She put on Twitter a few minutes ago saying, y'all
lo o L I'm not sure what I thought. I
know my teammates aren't letting me live it down. So
she's having a lot of fun with this. But I'm like,
what can you do? I just I passed the ball
to the other team. I'm like, I don't understand, I understand.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe the
w NBA has fixed. Maybe it was gambling, I don't.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Know exactly equivalent of like running out of the end zone.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Oh boy, it might.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Be the back of the end zone due all.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we should call it danneror Lobsky.
And see what that, dude, is that the same thing
as what you did?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Can you tell me? Can you give me a hot
take and then tell me that's the same thing what
you did? Uh? So there's your there's your crazy story
out of the game tonight. That's a good one. It's
just outstanding. And I mean, I think my favorite book
is a Gunbawally just chucking up the three.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, immediately, I got it. I've taken a three. Everybody
throws up the uh shocked in the fool. It's too
bad they're on summer hiatus. Uh I'm not even sure
what I thought.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Five crying laughing emojis. Just no. My teammates aren't letting
me live it down. I'll tell you that is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Uh So there's that story from tonight, and then there's
this at the other end of the spectrum.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
And this is a weird story.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's a little bizarre, but it ends fine, and it
kind of gives me a little bit of confidence that
not you know that that some of the WNBA they
understand where they are a little bit, because what do
I always say about the WNBA the last few weeks,
show that you're ready for the moment, right, show that
that you can handle success, and you everybody is in
a position to succeed, and that covers a large umbrella.

(06:53):
It's not just about playing well on the court, it's
about handling what it means to be star players. The
Chicago Sky this has just come out from the Chicago
Sun Times. About fifteen or twenty minutes ago, the Sky
endured an encounter upon their arrival to Washington when they
were confronted by a guy while getting off their bus
at the team hotel. This guy, who was not a

(07:15):
guest at the hotel, somehow knew where the Sky were
staying in advance of their game against Washington, and he
gets off and he targeted guard Kennedy Carter, who of
course is part of the big foul against Caitlin Clark
this weekend, the dirty foul that we've talked about the
last four days. When the bus arrives, the guy approaches
Kennedy Carter and her teammates with a camera. Now, this

(07:37):
is a weird thing. The players didn't want to get
off the bus, you hear something, at least you go, oh,
my goodness, what happened? The Sky now traveled with multiple
bodyguards who accompany their players everywhere as part of the
team's increased security measures this year, which they should because
you have big time players coming in. Angel Rees is
an extremely popular player and I'm glad to see that. Heay,

(07:59):
we knew coming in we needed something a little bit more.
We need more of this. There was more security on
hand that was needed. Police were not did not have
to be called, and security was able to escort the
guy away.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Hotel staff was made it where.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Of the situation, and according to the general manager of
the hotel quote, it was over as.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Fast as it started.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm very confident in our security always making our players
feel safe. Today was a great example of how critical
they are to our team. This is what I mean
by hey, being ready for that moment and this is
this is like I look at this and I go, okay, man,
this is how it's supposed to go. Some lunatic comes
up with a camera, I want to talk to somebody, woo,
and you're there and you're able to diffuse it like that.

(08:40):
That's the way it should go. And that's how it
should be. And this should be this, this should this
should be something that hey, everybody looks at and says, boy, okay,
these w NBA players, they are under a bit of
a microscope, a bigger microscope they've ever been under.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
And it's nice to see that.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Hey, here's here's a team that was thinking, forward thinking
and had them in a position where this didn't have
to be a thing.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
It didn't escalate into a thing.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
They were all to get this guy away from the team,
get into the hotel, and everything is safe.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, I mean it begs to the larger curiosity again,
you know what this guy's motives were, et cetera. Not
quite sure, but he went straight to Carter. Don't know
if it's you know, the new age of journalism. I
want to ask you a couple of questions. And they
just haven't experienced that or was it something more threatening?

(09:26):
I At this point, we don't have the details on that,
but certainly, you know a lot of the Sky teammates
took to their socials to talk about the incident and
talk about privacy, et cetera. Well, you know, it's one
of those things where you're trying to figure out where
where the line gets drawn, because certainly town to town,

(09:47):
I'm and prosper you travel with the chargers and and such.
So I mean you see people at hotels, right, people
looking for an autograph, people looking for a photo. I mean,
that's nothing new. Any of these women would have experienced
that during their collegiate days.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Right of folks.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Lined up either in the lobby or just outside the
doors as the buses rolled up to try to get
some sort of interaction whatever it might be. So you know,
wondering you know where where that line is, right and
and how that's been handled in the past, because again
it's it's been at multiple levels, and certainly for for

(10:26):
pro play. That was one thing back when I collected autographs,
like I wouldn't do it, like if you were coming
to and from the ballpark right out of the garages
and parking lots or coming off the practice field. Cool,
but I wasn't going to go find you at a
restaurant or at the hotel that.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
You should try the yoke and and sign this for me. Please.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, you're right here, right, Mike. I hope you enjoyed
the yoki and then sign it right here. But I
just remember one year, you know, being on site Super
Bowl week. You know, you're you're you're eating dinner and
you watch a bunch of people come walking up to
you know, athletes, you know, coaches and whatever at their
tables as they're trying to take a bite of a

(11:05):
steak that they came in from the outside because they
were able to look inside the windows like yeah, I
heard he was here. Cool, which means someone in the
back of the kitchen got duked a couple of bucks
to uh, to grat the guy out that he'd I'm
not saying he's here, but he's here, but he might
be here. Because that used to be what it was.
What what the because you know all the different sporting

(11:27):
events where I would see something like that. That was
always the team hotel, Like it was always when you
knew where somebody was staying or where people were staying
for a Super Bowl or an All Star game, and
you would see that that there'd be people that would
come in and sit in the lobby and go oh
they're so, and so, oh they're so. And it doesn't
always need to be a player. It could be someone
from the media, could be not like I remember one
time running into ron Kittle.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, I remember we didn't ask him for He was
just happy someone talked to him. He knew he was,
But you know that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's like Bunny, like you said, hey, Jason, like when
you were you were talking to him, we were where
were we when we saw him? Was it the Super
Bowl San Francisco?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
And you said, hey, Jason, this is ron Kittle, like,
oh my god, ninety eighty three American League Rookie the
Year And he said, yep, glad to meet you.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Combs.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, I can be a mouth of a oh yeah, yeah,
a lot of stuff on the air.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
But yeah, you can sell it. No, no, no, we
can't know. We can't. I can't say a lot of
words that ron Kittle said because they're not they're not compliant.
They're not you can't say.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
But like I remember seeing one time Aaron Andrews come
off an elevator and sign I think four autographs on
her way out the door of her hotel, and I'm
saying to myself, Wow, this is this is really something,
you know, I mean, it's really to have to have
that kind of thing, because when you're on TV is
different and you know, look once in a while, does
somebody recognize me or recognize my voice like you and

(12:50):
I happened.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, it happens, and it's kind of fun. I can't
imagine what it's like.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
For someone every day when you go out and now,
this is kind of what the w NBA players are realizing,
not not just this event right here, but what they're
all realizing is that they had all been stars. You know,
they've been professional players, but now things are different. You know,
it's it's it's it's just like you know what it's
like for w It's like this. It's when you get

(13:14):
somebody who's been a pretty good actor for a few
years and they've been in a few things, right, and
they oh you and and you know who they are,
you know who the you know who the actor is
or the and and hey, they've been in that, they
were in this TV show, they were in this movie,
and you think they're really big stars.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
But these people can still go.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Out and they can have dinner and have lunch and
people don't go and talk to them. But then you
get that big role or you're in that big movie,
and then suddenly you can't go out anymore and you
need a bodyguard, and you can only go to restaurants
where famous people go to and you have to get
escorted by I mean that happens. That's where the WNBA
is right now. They've gone from hey, where where the
we're character actors that are pretty successful in a big

(13:53):
pool with Hollywood being sports, and now they're a listers
and now it's like this is this is stuff that
unfortunately goes along with it, and it's awful that it does.
But I'm just glad to see, Hey, they had more
than enough security and police didn't have to be called
and it.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Was able to make that.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
That gives me confidence that, Okay, they're getting things going
now and going in that right direction.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And they've got the infrastructure in place to handle it,
or so it seems.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
So it's good exit out about a fresco exit Swallen Dome.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Harmon's gonna go email Ron Kill right now about an interview.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
But coming up next, you want to talk about Mussy TV,
who is someone that tonight took a huge leap into
being the most must see player in their sport. That's
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Speaker 3 (15:36):
And very quickly.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
A certain player has become the most must watch player
in his sport. And we saw tonight when that guy
is hit the new level of fame, and that was.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Mets New Infant No.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
And that was John Cena, John Cena, and that was
Pirates pitcher Paul skeen. Tonight, the Pirates beat the Dodgers, Right, Okay,
it happens that Dodgers clearly have trouble with the Pirates.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
They in trouble with them last year. They are trouble.
They don't want to see the Pirates in October. Buttter
know if the Pirates don't squeeze in as a wildcard.
The Pirates beat the Dodgers tonight ten six. But it's
about two at bats that just took over the sports
world for a while now.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Paul Skeens is the next great phenom pitcher to come
up number one rated player in the miners, and he
has got that kind of push behind him because the
guy throws one hundred miles an hour. He's had pitches
clocked at one hundred and two miles an hour. It's
kind of like a little bit of what Strasburg Mania
was like when Steven Strassburg came up for the Nationals

(16:43):
a long time ago. And tonight Shoeo Tani had two
at bats against Paul Skins, and the first one it's
tough because you don't see Shoeyotani look like he's overmatched
in any at bat, and Skeens blows three fast balls
by him that you can tell Otani was I'm not
even catching up to these high fastballs where every he.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Wanted to locate them.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Otani has no shot at him right, even even up
high where Otani likes the ball, Nope, he blows it
by me. I've not seen Otani just take three swings
and go back to the dugout like that in quite
a long time.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Oh no, it was super special. Good question next time
Otani comes up.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Hey, if you can't touch my fastball, why should I
throw you anything else?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Another couple of fastballs.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Blow by Otani, and then, unfortunately for Paul Skins, he
throws one too many fastballs to Otani, and this is
what happened.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Hi, give you up three two Otani Tisa straightaway, center
field disc balls gone.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Warren Skeens.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Power supplies Power home run number fifteen for show.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Hey, Dodgers Radio Network on the call, I mean a
high pitch that you don't Okay, he's not catching up
that fastball the first time up.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
He's not gonna know he caught up to that fastball.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
So you know, look, just to show you the best
and best matchup of Skeens in Otani, and Otani gets
the better of that. At bat, of course, Skeeens and
the and the Pirates get the better of the game winning.
And Skeens is now three and oh he's got thirty
eight strikeouts in his first five games. You know, it's
one thing to be a great pitcher coming up, but

(18:24):
when you come up like this, with this kind of
attention around you, and obviously you know, being Olivia Dunn's boyfriend.
They're dating. She's incredibly famous the LSU gymnasts. You see,
she's all over social media. This is kind of what
Strasburg Mania was like. The only difference is, well number
one tonight, Skeens hit a new level of fame. Like

(18:44):
he came up and we didn't really start hearing about
him until he started pitching for the Pirates, Whereas with Strasburg,
there was so much invest in him because being the
number one pick, waiting for him blowing through the minor
leagues like he did. It was we can't wait for
this guy to come up. When is he coming up?
And we would watch his starts in double A. I
remember when he was pitching in Syracuse. My dad was

(19:06):
to living in Syracuse. He said, I all of a sudden,
you can't get tickets, like when Strasburg is scheduled to pitch,
like that's it, Like everybody is there and it's a
whole show.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, and he starts there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Then he comes up to the majors and he is unbelievable.
He is he is Fernando Mania. There's not been anything
like that in baseball since Fernando Valenzuela. Then we had
Strasburg Mania, and that's what it was like. But we
had kind of knew about Strasburg coming up, so there
was always a a There was already a large investment
of attention on how he was doing when he came up,

(19:38):
whereas schemes is more, Hey he's here, now, let's see him.
So he's kind of catching up a little bit. So
it's kind of like Strasburg Mania light, but he's gonna
be there sooner rather than later because this guy just
has all the intangibles. Like I said, he throws one
hundred miles an hour, and the world is always going
to belong to people that can throw a hundred miles
an hour hit the ball five hundred feet and this

(19:58):
kid is incredibly special and tonight doing what he did
against the Dodgers, even though Tony got the better of
him on a home run. Okay, that's great. He blew
him away the first time Pirates won the game. Okay,
this is what it was like when Strassburg came up,
where every fifth day it was wait, does Skeens pitch tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Does he pitch today? Wait?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Are they they skipping a day? They're an off on Thursday.
He's pitching on Saturday. Like he has hit that next
level of fame. And it's I don't know if Skeen's
mania is a thing or Scheen's something we gotta say
skiing schemes. I don't know, pat depending on that in
case people make that on T shirt. But that's what
it is right now for this kid.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, looking at you know, just the rise right number
one overall pick last year, the dominant collegiate work that
he did. I mean, there was certainly some build up,
but when you go to the Pirates, sorry, it kind
of falls falls a bit.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Right, I mean, Pirates of nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
It's not bond, you know, but that's just But that's
my point though, right, and there's a reason there's team
you know, you're drafting number one overall and all of
those things, but it's easy to kind of get pushed
to the to the wayside.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
You know.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
One of the questions we asked our guy John Paul
Morosi when he's on, you know, talking about the struggle
from the hitting side of some of the young guys. Now,
Julio Rodriguez hits a home run tonight, but we've seen
Torkl Sind return to the minor leagues. We've seen Corbyn Carroll,
who was a hero a year ago. For a long time,
he's been flirting with batting two hundred, right, all of that,

(21:26):
the ob and flow. So there's just been a lot
of attention on the younger hitters. So the pitchers have
kind of worked in the background. And even last year,
you know, through his first season in the miners, there
wasn't a big push to say, hey, we need to
accelerate it because for what right, you know, you can
wait until twenty twenty four, And certainly from a I

(21:46):
can tell you from the marketability and sales price. You know,
I monitor some of the stuff in the trading card world,
and I mean there's a refractor auto that was up
pulled and graded numbered to five, went over ten thousand dollars.
He's had a couple others that have drifted towards twenty
and thirty and in private sales from reports. So I

(22:09):
mean you're talking about some some drifting, you know, into
the vaunted six figure kind of thing with some of
the expectations. Now as this guy becoming an ace, and
everybody immediately looking to all right, when does he leave
the Pirates and where does he go?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (22:25):
We already got him to the Dodger for me, are
you kidding? He's already excited about this story. Even though
the Dodgers lost. They lost another series to the Pirates. Hey,
Otani had a home run. In a couple of years,
we'll get Paul Skins because.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
We're not paying Otani any money for the ten years
we can sign this guy.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
When I tell you, he looks amazing in a photoshop
Dodger jersey, I guess.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Gout, especially if he gets to keep the mustache, maybe
grows the hair out a little bit. Over twenty one
years old, six ' six and averaging six strikeouts per
walk allowed, I mean that kind of controlled this young
while hitting triple digits with regularity. Yeah, he becomes a
bit of a foll hero and that next pitcher that

(23:05):
you have to watch, which we only get every once
in a while. I mean, you bring up Strasburg. I
don't know that we've had that kind of hype for
a player other than you know, Otani coming to the
big leagues and waiting to see what he was gonna do.
But you know, for for guys coming out in the
minor leagues, it's usually the all right, let's let's see
you do it for half a season or more. This

(23:26):
guy has taken a couple of couple of starts. I mean,
this is what his fifth start of the year, our
sixth start, we're already in that. Oh my, we got
something special because he's going right after even the biggest
of hitters, and yeah, Toani got him the second time.
But don't tell me you're not gonna see highlights of
that first at bat for a long time.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
To come.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
First guy to homer off of Skeins is fastball this year,
like Schemes is like, what am I gonna do?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
I put the pitcher I wanted to when he hit it.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
That's just gonna happen once in a while when the
best hitter in base and the best pat I mean,
you see this is this is this is the quintessential
definition of the phrase good pitching beats good hitting and
vice versa. Right, like good pitching beat you saw what
good pitching can do to good hittings, because baseball is
about failure. But he also saw what good hitting can
do to good pitching. You throw me that fastball enough,
I'm gonna hit it, right. I know, I have a

(24:17):
tough time. You throw me six of those, I'm gonna
eventually get one of them.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
And he puts it over the field, over the fence
and center field. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Evidently here's a little tidbit going back to last year
after he was drafted. From the scouting side of it.
So is fastball, right, we talked about it. Ninety eight average,
topping out at one oh two. It gets an eighty
grade from Major League Baseball Pipeline. Their grading scale was
from twenty to eighty.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
And then his slider, which goes to the mid to
upper eighties, swing and miss and everything, it got a seventy.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I needed that to be the grades in high school.
Wh I would tell my mom I got an eighty
and a yeah. But that's the highest grade. It comes
from twenty to eighty, and I got an eighty. Really no,
not really, but.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Some of these classes now an eighty. It's like, yeah,
you gotta B plus. What do you mean they kind
of B plus doesn't make any sense. Oh, the kids
come home every once in a while and they tell
me the grading scale for certain classes. I'm like, so
you just have to be awake and see something coherently
once a week.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Is that what we're doing here? No? You know what?
My favorite part is that?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
And this is really I can't get over this because
I keep saying to myself, I could have gone to
Harvard if they would allow this. But the number of times,
you know, now, my daughter in high school. You had
a daughter go through high school? Yeah, the daughter in
high school? Now, the number of times where the teachers
allow you to retake a test if you do bad
at it, Like, yeah, here's a test you can read,
and the retake of this test is next week, Like

(25:46):
it's built.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Into the calendar. Take a test. I'm like, I never
got to read. If I got a sixty eight on
a test, on a science test, I got a sixty
eight in a sciences I didn't get a chance to go. Okay,
now my second shot at this test, I could get
a high grade.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I never got that. But that's like common practice now.
Or yeah, hey the test is here, it's on Wednesday.
If you want to take the retest, it's next Friday.
Come to my you know, come to my office at
lunch and you take the test. I'm like, I never
got a chance to retake tests like that?

Speaker 3 (26:13):
But what what's the school system going on? Right? If
I was able to do that, really, I could have
gone to Harvard or Yale or you know, someplace that
would academically was great. I mean I wouldn't have gone
to the NCA teram at all because you know, Syracuse,
but I mean I could have gone to a big
IVY League school or something.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
But yeah, and then especially these multiple choice tests that
they'll take, it's like, all right, I know I got
this many wrong.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
They won't tell me which ones whatever.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
That's fine, But I can go back in that test
at no risk to me and take and say, well,
these are the four four or five that I really
didn't know last time. Let's just switch up the answers
a bit and if I get them all wrong again,
as well as a few others that I forget the way,
it doesn't matter because my grade can't get lowered.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I mean, not a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
See that what I would like that though, Yeah, you
can take the retest, but if you get a lower grade,
that's your new grade.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Like that. I kind of like like that.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I'm like, okay, I realized they're talking about, you know,
all our kids' futures. But I kind of like a
little bit of that. Hey, I want to I want
to roll the dice and risk and I think I
can do better on this. That's I'll take that second grade.
I kind of do that, but I should have to
roll the dice. There should be something out on the line.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
To roll the dice. Boy, I really did worse on
that test the second time around. Boy, that stinks.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
So I brought my grade down to a sea. But
you know what, I learned something about myself.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Mister Cooper, can you give me that first grade? Beat it? Jerk?
Oh okay, I guess I'm not gonna go. Now we're
hanging with mister Cooper. We're really back in the eighties.
I was trying to think of a fun teacher name,
and mister cool to me, that's what I said that.
I mean, you can go all sorts of ways.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
But I'll tell you man, Paul Skeens has become the
most must watch player in Major League Baseball over the
course of like ten days. Like everything that gotta see it,
gotta see it because for you know, for all we
say about the hitters, which is what we like in baseball, right,
don't like the pitching. We don't like the eras of pitchers.
Pitching is boring two one games. We like to see

(28:07):
home runs. We like a lot of runs. I get that.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
But who are the players that always become must see
Not the guys when they back, when they play every day.
It's the pitchers.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
When is show Heyo Tani the most must see when
he's pitching, right, Strasburg Mania, Fernando Mania.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Now Paul Skeins. What are all these guys? Pitchers? Right?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
And the last two are incredible power pitchers that through
one hundred miles an hour. These are the guys we
want to see, starting pitchers that can strike a lot
of people out every five days. Yeah, that's who we
sign up for more than anybody else. That's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Let's go coming up next. We made it.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
After a long week plus layoff, we are here on
the eve of the NBA Finals. Mike and I have
already given you our picks. I like the Celtics, Mike
likes the Mavericks. But straight ahead, we'll tell you who
we like for NBA Finals MVP and boy is my
pick a big time value pick?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Who is it? We'll tell you next right here, Jason
to Mike, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
live from the Time.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Dot Com Studios. Boy, the Angels just swept the Padres.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Okay, so we've made it finally to the NBA Finals
tomorrow night. At this time, we're breaking down Game one Celtics, Mavericks.
Finally we're here. We waited all week long. We've gotten
a couple of teams. Lebron James is maybe interested in
on the love of Marria with him and Kyrie and
maybe the Sixers. Uh but no, we have an honest
to goodness Game one tomorrow, and we made our.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Picks last week. I told you why. I like the Celtics,
Mike likes the Mavericks. But now if we want to
go in and look at who the NBA Finals MVP
is going to be, I'm going to give you a
big time value pick for my MVP now here out
of this, because I'm going with somebody who right now
is plus sixty six hundred to win and maybe even

(30:06):
lower odds depending on where you get them, because you
and you found this person at one hundred to one,
one hundred to one, one.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Hundred to one, and I'm going with Drew Holliday. Now,
hear me out, I think the Celtics are going to win.
I'm picking the Celtics. So it's not gonna be where. Oh,
let's give it to Luca.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
He was so good. Now stops as.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
There's such a big Jason Tatum bias out that there's
already a huge anti Jason Tatum contingent that if he
has one or two poor games in the finals and
the other games he plays well and then went doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Jason Tatum can't do it. Jason Tatum can't be consistent.
Jason Tatum, Jasam.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
There's been people are ready to jump on top of
Jason Tatum and is it likely going to be a
series where Tatum has his moments, Jalen Brown has his moments. Yeah,
and Jaln Brown called one of the favorites for MVP
as well. But here's the thing. The Celtics are gonna
win because they're gonna do the smart thing and you
are gonna see Drew Holliday is one of the top
three or four defenders in all of the NBA, is

(31:08):
going to lock down and lock up with Kyrie Irving
for the entire series because that's what you need to do.
You can't bounce him back and forth between Luca and
Kyrie because look, if you're the Celtics, you know, if
Luca does his thing, but we hold Kyrie down, we're
gonna win the championship. Right If Kyrie scores twenty a game,
we're gonna win. We just gotta stop Kyrie from scoring

(31:29):
thirty because Luca's gonna score thirty and then we're in
a lot of trouble. And Holliday has done it before
and that's kind of the better matchup for him because
I think he can slow down Kyrie a little bit more. Uh,
Luca can get his his jumper off a little bit easier.
It's a lot harder to slow Luca down. So it's
gonna be one of those Let's let Luca get his
points well, let him get tired, make him do all

(31:51):
the things media doesn't want to have to do. And
if Drew Holliday locks up Kyrie Irving and holds Kyrie
Irving down and that becomes a through line and a
storyline throughout the NBA Finals, Drew Holliday will win MVP,
because that's we'll be talking about boy Kyrie Kyrie Kyrie.
If all of a sudden, Dallas's other big star who's
having a moment now suddenly is six or seventeen from

(32:13):
the floor nine for twenty three and Drew Holliday is
the guy that's at the base of this. Yeah, he
can do the andre iguidalad win the MVP. So yeah,
give me the value and give me Drew Holliday to
an NBA Finals MVP.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Any time we can get an andre Iguodala reference in
We've won the night. He's the real AI, the real AI.
That's the r there you go fight.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Look, there's on most boards, you've got seven players that
are really in consideration that you say, all right, there's
some substantive money that have been laid out, and we
talk about the big four off the top, Tatum's the favorite,
Lucas about two to one, Jalen Brown somewhere between six
and eight to one. Then you got Kyrie anywhere from
eighteen to twenty two to one, and then you got

(32:56):
Derek White and Christaps Porzingis anywhere from thirty five to
fifty to one. Again shop around for your odds, and
then Holiday is the last of those, coming in anywhere
from fifty to one hundred, so a big range. And
this is where it gets kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Is that. Look for me, Kyrie is just great value.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Sitting there at eighteen to twenty two to one because
he is going to have the ball in his hands
a ton. To your point, Celtics are gonna win. It's
going to be a big Drew Holiday fest, I think,
because he's also been helping them on the offensive end too,
so you get both sides of it. And anytime we
can actually talk about defense for a minute, it seems

(33:37):
like people are excited about that again because it helped
them sell wemby a bit more. Not that he wasn't
good offensively and hit some threes or whatever, but then
you can argue about defensive player of the Year. So
for Drew Holliday, that's a win for him as well
because think about even Luca and Kyrie, how much has
been made about Yeah, their offensive game has.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Been great, but look how much they're committing to the
defensive end.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Of thanks to really go off to great because it's
the next guy off the board after those seven PJ.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Washington three hundred to one.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Man, you man, he's got to hit a lot of
threes if you're not sick, if we're gonna if we're
gonna go crazy. Because the other thing for him is
if he hits a big free throwing crunch time, it's
going to be magnified to a great level because he
is not a good free throws ure.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
So that's something there.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
But again, I I it would be a shock if
it didn't come out of say those first four guys.
But certainly we started digging a little deeper for Dallas.
If they're gonna get scoring from another spot, certainly PJ.
Washington is one of those guys that they're going to
rely on, and he's had a streak of some pretty
consistently hitting the twenty twenty marks. So some three point shots,

(34:44):
some big you know, stem rally kind of things. Yeah,
he's a guy that maybe if you're looking to uh,
you know, bet a little and potentially rake away a bunch.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
I'm telling you, man, if he hits all those threes.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
That'd be like James Posey winning the MVP when the
Celtics won back in two thousand. Right, let's go, that
would be outstanding. Rondo Yo exit out about a Fresca
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Speaker 3 (35:14):
So there's our NBA Finals MVP you look at for
value picks.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
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