June 8, 2024 • 41 mins
On tonight's edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Ryan Hollins is pinch hitting for Jason Smith! The guys open the hour reacting to LeBron James unfollowing fellow NBA draft classmate Kendrick Perkins over his recent controversial comments. Next, the guys talk into the Lakers Head Coach search looking into the possible candidates! Finally, Producer Shay gives us the inside on the World Freak Fight League! Listen to all that and so much more in hour 3!
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previewing of Game two of the NBA finals, we've got
some more storylines coming out of Game one and reaction.
We'll get to Jason Tatum in a moment. But you
sent me something that was starting to circulate in the
twitter verse here, Ryan related to one Lebron James and
something he did in the social media sphere which has
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really become a big deal the last couple of years.
When a player is dissatisfied with the team he's with,
starts to scrub some of the pictures, starts to scrub
some of the links, maybe takes a logo off of
their page. Maybe now it's them in a biker outfit
instead of in a uniform. I don't know, whatever the
(01:51):
case may be. You like that now you got that image,
didn't you?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Who's in a biker outfit?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I don't know. I just just had you know. I
had to dodge a couple of motorcyclists today traffic. Traffic
was moving pretty well on the four or five, two
days in a row. I don't know what this this
desk is made out of here, but I'm knocking hoping
that it's the beginning of a nice easy summer on
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the freeways. Yesterday, I kid you, not right the expectation
was Smith was going to be working from home, like
we'd come in the first couple of days of the week.
He had some stuff running around, final days of school
with his daughter and all, and he is like, I'm
gonna probably work him home. And then he calls me
and he's on the way in to the office. And
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now it's like five forty five, and now I live
pretty far south of lax And on a good night,
and I call it a good night. It's usually about
an hour and fifteen minute drive for me coming in
on the freeway to get into the studio to come
hang out with Mary, shay And and Steve and the team.
In the back right, we had Brie and Crandle getting
it done. And it takes forever. Right, that's a good day.
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Some days it pushes towards two hours. And I pulled
up the map as he's telling me he's driving, and
he goes, well, you know game one. I'm like, I
tried to argue that with you yesterday, said you're staying home,
Like all right, So I pull up the map and
it says, all right, you can get there in forty minutes.
I got to here in thirty eight minutes flat, absolutely absurd,
record breaking time. That wasn't on a Sunday morning at
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four am coming in to do radio with you, but
today double down, same thing. But then because in California,
the knuckle ahead motorcyclists and I love you the person,
not you as a motorcyclist. Uh, they're doing eighty and
weaving between lanes because legally you can weave between lanes.
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Now eighty's obviously above speed limit, but you think you've
got to clear it all of a sudden whoa, whoa, whoa,
So you know you head on a swivel when you
know the traffic gods giveth and potentially take it away
with guys on their biker gear.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, my dad used to do that. We always feared
he dropped his bike. Finally that didn't. That wasn't what
did him in, but we always told him, man, dude,
we're not cool with you'd riding that bike.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I saw a guy get flipped about three months ago, right,
he weaved, he got back in and then the guy
stopped short and well I saw a guy flying without
his bike.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah. I'm not a big fan of it, no, but.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
There you go. That's why the biker came up, So
you got that. Lebron James has now unfollowed Ben Simmons
and Kendrick Perkins. He decided he'd have it, had enough
hot take nonsense from his former draft class mate, right
two thousand and three, two thousand and four, when Perk
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came into the league with the Celtics. I remember it
because I have the two thousand and three, two thousand
and four Kendrick Perkins Tops rookie cards sitting there.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, you are big on cards. But listen, we talked
about this earlier in the show. Perk is my guy.
I thought this was unnecessary, and Lebron is doing a podcast.
I think it is appropriate due to the relationship that
he has with Kyrie, the statements that he made and
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perctislated to him. Man, I listen, I didn't think the
shoe fit right now. Now, there's some moments. Can we
say Lebron kind of made things about him in certain times? Yeah,
it's fair enough. You know, he probably tell you that, Hey,
I know what I was doing.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You know, it's all calculated. None of it has happened stance.
Lebron doesn't stumble into things that doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
But I don't think in this statement, I think Perk
was wrong. I don't. I think Lebron was just doing
his podcast with JJ. Now there is there more behind it.
If not, I don't, I don't know. I don't know,
but I do think that Burk was wrong here and
ruffled ruffled feathers. As soon as I saw it, I
was surprised. I was like, Wow, Purk is he's going
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in on bro Man. That that one's that one surprised me.
And then the unfollowing, I mean, it's weird. I just
hate our society right now. Man, You unfollow, you follow someone,
everybody's watching and paying attention. It's it's it's a thing now.
I mean, I guess I follow you.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
No, But that that's the difficult thing though. Ryan. We
were actually just talking about it with you know, Shay,
Shaye and Mary and I, you know, trying to figure
we got a story at forty five, Like Shane was
sending us some some tweets you and I earlier as
we're prepping for the show of a Fighting League that's
come up, and we got to go through the card
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and watch ability and whether we start giving it some
some airtime overall because it it is. It's interesting, but
also just in terms of addressing people and day to
day not knowing where the line is where you're going
to offend people. I assume in four hours of doing radio,
if I had to do the I'm sorry thing right
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to take from a long running show here in LA
You've got Heidi and Frank on Friday mornings. By the
end of the show, they've assembled a list of anybody
they may have offended in any of the jokes and
stories that they talked about that day. Every now and again,
I feel like I should do that sitting here with Smith,
because you might have taken this the wrong way. You
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might have taken that one line and not heard the
full context all those things.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
How do you think Lebron can take this take from Perk?
You know what Perk said? How else can Lebron kind
of you know, like relay that message or accept it?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
No, that's just it right, It's hard, right. It's the personal,
you know, reaching out whatever and trying to come to
to some sort of agree to disagree or you see
my side, I see yours whatever, or you do this
act and in when you when you take this move,
it shows that that there's a break that has to
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go to you know, with with Perk you know some
of it, and with Lebron and the Reddick podcast. Up
until Danny Hurley's name comes out, Uh, yesterday, was presumed
he was going to be the guy, and in the
background was well, the podcast seemed to be a month
long audition. Haha, right, and that's kind of where it it.
(08:31):
That was the you know, chuckle, snort, point watch laugh
whatever they deride it all. I thought it was going
to be fascinating, like and look, it's not done. Danny Hurley,
to my knowledge as of this moment, hasn't signed a deal.
Still might just be leveraging Yukon for all he can get.
I don't know what what's truth, what's fiction, and what
JJ Reddick would be if he were the coach, and
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what that assembly of assistance would be. But yeah, certainly
in the hot take nonsense business that we get into
in this space. Sometimes Ryan, you know, guys go for
the punchline and hope it's just gonna gloss over. Problem is,
when you're going with a guy of Lebron's scope, someone's
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gonna hear it in his circle and it's gonna get
back and you don't know how that's gonna hit or
maybe you do.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, listen, look man, because Perk is going to bat
for Bron, you know several times. Yeah, yeah, so I
will say Look like I said, this one surprised me.
I didn't see it coming. And you know, it is
tough in our shoes. We have to give takes, we
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have to speak about things, and you know, maybe Perk
was trying. It almost felt like maybe Perk was trying
to say, hey, I'm gonna be fair in this, or hey,
I'm gonna go as hard on Lebron as I go
on everybody else. That's I almost felt like he was
proving that point. I don't think if that well, I
think you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I think you're one hundred percent right, just saying, look,
if this was any other player and any other circumstance
like this, where maybe and again, do you buy the
idea that Lebron is telling them no, no, no, don't worry
about me with the coaching search, because I don't buy
that for a second. Like I've had so many insiders
throw that up as as the line of no, no, no,
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he's saying, you've got to do this, gotta do that,
Like he's got no say, I don't buy that, and
if nothing else, Clutch certainly has some say with the
number of players that are there on that roster. But
to that point, yeah, I think Perk to some degree
was trying to at least put himself in the position of, hey,
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I got to be fair to this that if this
was any other player, I'd be killing him or everybody
else would be killing him. And unfortunately it feels I
you know, try to speak and put you some from Lebron'
shoes for a minute, just feels like piling on because
you know you're gonna get the usual suspects that are
gonna have their strong takes against him. And you know
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who they are if you listen to sports talk radio
and watch sports television as you do, you're hanging out
with us on a Friday night into Saturday morning. Yeah,
you know who those guys are. You know the others
that are going to be sick of fans the other
way that Lebron can do no wrong and carry the
water for him at every turn. Obviously the truth somewhere
in between, and then you get Perk. You know, a
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long time relationship going back a couple of decades tried
to be in the middle and play it fair and
it comes off stronger because he's never been on that
side or hasn't been on that side that regularly. And
like Michael Jordan used to look at that iPad, I
took that personally. Yeah, and now you're unfollowed.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I mean he went like this wasn't doing fair like
he just went hard. He went hard. But again, yet
no perk goes hard at a lot of people in
all fairness, definitely has but listen, we thought Lebron and
for the most part with perk keep being off limits.
Apparently not.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But you know, Ryan, like what what's the biggest criticism
is like, all right, keep that energy right? How often
do you hear that in our business?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The unfollow was big? Mike, do you feel like the
do you hate the unfollower? You are? You like all
in with the unfollowed.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Seems like a childlike thing, but it's a real thing.
But it's a real thing. In the last couple of years,
it's been a real thing.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
If I looked up today and you unfollowed me or tomorrow,
I'd be furious. And then it's like it'd be weird,
like we'd see each other in studio or something and o,
hey Mike, hey, hey, right.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know, like like energy, Yeah, one of those kind
of things. So what do you got change?
Speaker 5 (12:51):
So yeah, I'm obviously I'm a little younger. I'm twenty four.
Like the unfollowed thing has always been around for us.
Social media has always been a thing with me. The
only time I could see the unfollowed being like an
all right thing is with exes. It's that's generally the
only time I can see.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
But even that, folks generally still follow each other because
you still want to check up on what everybody's doing,
or maybe you still have friends or whatever in common.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I don't, And I don't like the thing with the
excess too, because you do it and it's like, oh
she's available, now she's not even if they're not even
and then it's like a look, we're not even following
each other.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
But that's the point, Like that's that's the whole point
of unfollowing people. It's like, Okay, we're not cool anymore,
or you upset me or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But that's the thing. Though, then you hear about it
because you still got friends in common if you've been
together fronty length of time or going to school together
or whatever. So you're gonna hear the stuff. So is
it better to see it online yourself and not unfollow?
You know, get in your separate corners to go into
our fight league kind of analogy, but you don't have
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to interact, but you see it and you have to,
you know, just eat it.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
That's not how it works. That's not how it works.
You can follow, and then you can block, and then
you can do the like I'll check your story from
online and it will be a bunch of bots. Like
there's there's It gets deeper, man, the whole so deep.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So are we saying here that Perk and Lebron are done?
Are they like officially done?
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Cooked? It's over, It's over. They didn't want any confrontation
or anything. This was basically saying.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
There's no messy breakup.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Just that that is the messy breakup.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, they know, but there's no words. It's all.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
That's as messy as it gets.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
They kind of just if they have to follow each other,
they kind of have to fight it out.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So that's what seems lazy and soft as opposed to
duking it out. I'm just gonna unfollow you.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
No, No, that's a good point. That that is a
big thing. I mean, I don't know Perk comes back
from this, you're right, or does he? Well? I guess
Perk has to dress this on the show, right.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Oh absolutely? If this isn't this isn't talk like if
Hurley doesn't sign a contract or Reddick doesn't sign a contract.
You got game two and you got this, and then
if you do it like they did in game one,
you get a minute twenty of content and a lot
of commercials at halftime.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Okay, and let me ask this because because you guys,
the whole thing behind this is that Lebron, I guess
has makes things about himself in some weird way by
him unfollowing does he do exactly what was Kentrick's whole point?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
No, that's one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
So was he wrong in the first place, just throwing
it out there, soft, Lebron, don't unfollow me.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I can't say I've ever been followed by Lebron.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That's just poking fun.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No, I'm just saying. And if he were to unfollow me,
guess what I'd run the hell out of that. I
might get a billboard right out here when they get
rid of that clipped one and it rotates over. We'll
get into that a little bit later on too. Shay, Mary,
thank you so much. I don't know that we solved anything,
but that was fun. He's Ryan Hollins up by Carmen
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we roll forward, but yeah, a little little Toby Keith,
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the late great Toby Keith and one of his number
one hits, because yeah, the conversation does eventually circle back
to Lebron James and here we are again between the
Lakers coaching search and now social media squabs. I want
to know what Ben Simmons did. Did he have something
on social that I missed or did you just decide
he was not buying into the Ben Ben Simmons hype anymore.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Well, I know Ben was signed under Clutch. I don't
know if he left Clutch, if it was a thing,
I'm sure what I didn't know? How you know, Ben
is catching more strays, man, Poor Ben Simmons, always catching strays.
I don't Maybe there's something that we don't know about,
you know. But nonetheless, you know we saw and heard
that last segment. The importance of the unfollowed me about that. Man,
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that's a real thing.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, so now that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
That Now we gotta know what Ben Simmons did. He
did something?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
What do you think he did? Eight seven seven? No,
I'm just kidding at Swalling Dome at the Ryan Hollins
for all things non suggestive of what Ben Simmons might
have done to piss off Lebron James, although it is
a Friday night into Saturday morning. Curious that some of
the theories that might be bandied about. I mean, he
lost his jump shot. Now he loses Lebron James follow
(19:08):
Come on, that's just rough. Wow wow, No, that was
now you're giving him way too much credit. That was
far more clever than anything Jason Smith was going ada.
How about a fresca. Now you know what that is. Yeah,
(19:41):
we're going all the way back to the butt fumble
there the unmistakable as soon as you hear the name
Tom Moore. Uh, it goes from there. But yeah, Danny
Hurley now injects himself. Uh, he's injected into the conversation.
Woe Zerowski, who wrote a book about the family. See
this is how I love this stuff. You got Sham's reporting. Hey,
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it's all what a certain that JJ Reddick's gonna get
the job. Meanwhile he's chilling for fan Duel. So you
got all sorts of betting odds and money that shuffles
around because of this. Can you tell I'm uneasy with
this a little bit, Ryan Hollins. And then on the
other side you got the all right, well it's you know,
Danny Hurley's been the long shot guy. And we talked
about this a long time ago. If you were coming
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out of the National Title game, it's like, yeah, if
you once you decide you're firing Darvin Ham or anybody
else in the NBA, Yeah, you'd love to go kick
the door down and get an audience with Hurley and see,
you know, if you can find some kind of marriage
to be made there, but it didn't seem like that
was imminent for him, especially the way things are running.
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But college basketball, college football, we've seen how many coaches
on either side just say I'm done with the way
the business of college sports goes anymore. And it's the
Lakers franchise, right It's like when Steve Balmer bought the
Clippers for two billion dollars and everybody was like, why
would he spend so much money? It's like, it's Los Angeles.
It's a team that came up for sale in Los
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Angeles that ain't happening very very often. And lo and behold,
what's that franchise worth? Now? Man clipped is reminding you
of all the incidences that led to him coming onto
the scene. But it's the idea that you have the
opportunity to go and make your mark. And for Danny
Hurley right now, how much more can you do at Yukon?
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I mean, you're already a legend. You've shown that you
can build, sustain and rebuild and retool a program. And
if you can go and do that with the Lakers,
an organization with a lot of history, but the recent
history has been I don't know, a bit chaotic and
twirly to steal from Phoebe buffet of friends.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Well, for Danny Early, I think this has to be
a no brainer. You can always go back to college,
you know, after the fact, but you can't always be
the Lakers coach, you know, you can't always do that.
And if they're gonna give you a long term deal,
that's the difference. And I think, you know, I'm not
sure what the details wherever Tyleru was like, Hey, I'm
not gonna take the Lakers job. That doesn't that doesn't
make sense for me because I don't think they were
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going to give him the commitment that he was looking for.
But you got to do it, and you have to
be realistic. And here here's the mindset. You know, the
organizations they have, you know, two three four year plans out,
and they're saying, hey, at a certain point, Lebron James
are gonna slow down and we're gonna need someone to
do what. We're gonna need someone to develop, So how
about we go get the best college coach because we're
(22:37):
gonna have young players and you conran a very NBA
friendly offense there they've been creating pros, and it just
seems to really really make sense at this stage to
bring Herley on because Hey, Lebron's gonna need help and
you need a coach that can develop, So why not Hurley.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
No, it's good at Gino ari I'm gonna insert himself
into the conversation when it took a page out of
the Lebron James. Hey, with everybody talking about the WNBA
and stuff, nobody's talking about me. Hi, I'm Gino Ariema.
You may have known me from Yukon titles past and
he throws up his does his media tour whatever. But
the idea being, as you say, you know, eventually it's
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the post Lebron James era. Right. There's some rumors that
we're looking at eight years, one hundred million dollars. That
was reported a little bit earlier coming out out of
laker Land from a couple of you know, folks that
covered the squad. How real those numbers are? The years
is what stands out for me to your point, Ryan,
(23:37):
It's not a three year, it's not your typical even
five year. It seems like it's a much longer term. Hey,
you get to actually build a program like you used
to once upon a time in college, which most guys
don't get a chance to do that anymore. Right, you're
in for a year or two, someone is that's a
big enough booster, decides they don't like you, or enough
guys transfer out or women transfer out, and suddenly you're
(24:01):
on the outs. But if you're legitimately looking at all, right,
what's the best to maximize whatever's left of lebron and Ad?
Potentially bring in Bronnie if that's the team plan, and
develop Austin Reeves and these other guys as much as
you know. Reddick, to me, I thought was an interesting, hey,
(24:23):
just outside the box, let's see how this works kind
of thing, because look, theory testing is fantastic Lakers doing
theory testing. I don't know that most people in LA
would be very much on board with that, but Danny Hurley,
I mean, there's a guy with credibility on all levels
and the respect bringing guys into the game and into
(24:45):
the NBA level. And I think with as much as
we talk about Lebron and Ad having to buy in,
I gotta imagine that it's a little easier buy in
there full on than Reddick or even some of the
other former coaches that we're looking to get back in
the game.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, no, Danny Hurley is definitely probably had his name
arguably on the coaches search. We haven't heard of any
other coaches being fired. But again, the development is the key,
and the Lakers are saying, hey, we have a group
of decent players, but hey, maybe if they can fit
into a system, maybe they have a good coach he
(25:26):
can put the pieces to this puzzle together. Because we've
got the Lakers. Big thing is they have to find
pieces to fit outside of Lebron. They got to create
production outside of him. And again, Lebron is so great
with his passing ability that he can go out and
he can just he just can kind of make plays,
you know, just being himself. So I think the challenge is, hey,
(25:50):
if there's a conducive offense, Lebron can do less and
he can play a whole lot longer.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well that's it, right, It's taken some of those weary
minutes we talk about him all the time, Right, thirty
minutes are not always thirty minutes in a game, you know,
depending on the pace and how you have to you know, defend,
because that's the other part which becomes the curiosity of
the style of play that that Hurley has run yukon at,
(26:19):
bringing that to the Lakers, and again getting veterans to
buy in. I think this is where the fact that
you've got a lot of younger guys on this roster
outside of your two A list stars might be to
your benefit. It particularly you know, we've seen him talk
so glowingly of guys like Zach Edy finding a place
in the NBA, so maybe he's a future Laker. You know,
(26:41):
for all your boiler Maker fans, you might have found
your fit, the Bronni thing whatever. But certainly you paid
Austin Reeves a lot of money. You did not get
the production that you expected from the money you paid
him this off this last season, and now it's trying
to find those other component parts.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah, look, I like it. I think I think we're
just thrown off by the soap opera of the you know,
the Shams and woj kind of picks. And you know,
normally when a guy goes out and reports something Shams
or woje like, that's a big slap in the face
(27:19):
to be like JJ Reddick looking to be the next
coach or whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Less than hours later, Yes, everybody wakes up slap.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, you're shams. You gotta be furious with that whoever
gave you that intail And you know, hey, maybe it
was an inside job and JJ was saying, hey, can
you put my name in the hat as a coach,
and you saw it with Toronto and kind of put
me in a good standing and you know that'll help
(27:48):
me out on the brock because we're shooting now. He's
he can do the broadcast thing probably for as long
as he wants, man, and that's always good to be
to be wanted. So you know, nothing like making your
boss kind of you know, turn an eye in somebody
else you know, wanting you.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
No, it's it always, you know, you got to apply leverage.
It's the old rule of thumb we talk about in
any business that you are, however you're making a living
out there listening to us across the globe, We appreciate
you stepping down. Maybe you're at work right now. It's
all about finding leverage, right to try to earn that
extra buck an hour or you know, better work environment things,
(28:23):
whatever your win would be in the spot. And certainly
for JJ Redick, Yeah, I mean you always wonder where
information flows and we'd heard from the Lakers were doing
their due diligence, which I don't know. I think it's
kind of sad that we had to point that out
that it wasn't day. Hey, we we like one guy.
(28:45):
We've locked into one guy. That's done, because I mean,
that's just malpractice, malfeasance of running a multi billion dollar
operation if you locked into one guy without talking to others.
And really, with the JJ Reddick of the last story
of the last week, it became a great Vegas misdirection.
If all along Hurley's still been simmering in the background
(29:08):
with some basic conversations before heading to LA today.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well, it seemed like everybody was kind of really shaking
their head at the JJ Reddick name and saying, hey,
it's a Lebron, it's a Lebron, it's a Lebron, And
I wonder what, like, there's something fishy here going on,
and was it, Hey, we don't want this backlash of
it being JJ Reddick. Let's heat things up with Danny Hurley.
(29:34):
Maybe you know Danny. Danny Hurley team was saying, hey, man,
if you ain't gonna and this is what a reputable
coach is going to do with the Lakers situation. This
is why they've missed out on a lot of other coaches.
They're not willing to give the commitment and it's a
job where you're just waiting to be fired. Just ask
Darvin Ham what Darvin's like? What did I do wrong?
(29:55):
So Danny Hurley may have been saying, hey, you know,
JJ may for sure would be willing to say, hey,
you pay me whatever, I'll come in. You can fire
me whatever, it's gonna put me in a great light,
where Danny Hurley maybe was saying, you gotta give me
a long deal. Yeah, I don't get a long deal.
I'm not taking this job. And maybe that's what ended
(30:18):
up happening. And you know that what happened was Hurley
looks like he's going to get the deal. So whatever,
the real story behind this is, I am intrigued to
know because something happened. There's a shift and I can see.
And that's why JJ was a realistic name. Because the
Lakers do not like to pay money.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
No, that's just it. Try to work on the cheap,
work with the relationship because a lot of it, whether
they like it or not, whether Lebron bristles and follows
me just to unfollow me immediately. It's the perception becomes
reality of you've got veteran players running the show. I mean,
Darvin Ham, what was his mistake? Anthony Davis went and said, Hey,
(30:58):
this guy doesn't seem to know what he's doing, right,
we don't seem to know what we're doing. Well, is
that's not players. That means the coaches aren't communicating. So
I mean that's about as long a leash as you're
gonna get. You know, when the star players are calling
that out, and you get the Zippruterer film of guys
showing an empty whiteboard when you're calling a time out
in the final seconds of a game, ostensibly to try
(31:20):
to set up a winning shot. So like all of
that comes back against you. Yeah, for JJ Reddick, his
name got some run and he's firmly entrenched in the
NBA Finals telecast, and as I joked about before a
minute twenty of actual analysis at halftime in between commercials
of game one, we'll see what happens for Game two.
(31:43):
He's Ryan Hollins. I'll buy car But we'll get back
to the Jason Tatum as well as a League. That
is a very curious thing that well might we might
have to go partake of a future card. But that's
coming up in a minute. But first it's Steve de
Seger with what's trending, including a white Sox rare Yes.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
By the way, the less of that halftime show the better.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Oddly, Oh no, no, God, any argument from me.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
It is odd though the amount of talking compared to
the amount of spots I mean TNT, as we all know,
run circles around that show. TNT could be on its
last year of having the NBA. Next season we'll see.
There are reports that TNT Sports will be getting the
French Open rights for ten years starting next year. French
Open winds up this weekend. In pairs. Carlos Alcarez one
(32:28):
his semi final in five sets today, beating the new
number one come Monday, Janick Center of Italy six to
three in the fifth number four seat. Alexander Zverev also
won today. An American Cocoa Goff advance to the women's
doubles final. In Saturday's women's final, number one Egas Fiantek
will face number twelve seed Jasmine Paulini of Italy. And
now everything is final in Major League Baseball. In San Diego,
(32:51):
the Padres have just defeated the Arizona Diamondbacks ten to three,
blowing it open with five runs in the bottom of
the eighth. We have the attendance from Oland tonight. Yesterday
they had a day game at ten and six thousand tonight,
sixteen thousand really did not realize it was fireworks night.
Oh congratulations.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well, with most cities now canceling their July third or
July fourth fireworks, are they the only place you're getting
them is at the ballpark? Really, cities, there's a lot
of cities that are just saying we don't have the money.
I just heard something locally here. I forget which heard
it on KFI six forty here on some of.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
The beach communities, usually.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Where one got denied permits because they tried to file
too late.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Holy cow, it's July fourth.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
So they said whatever the deadline was. Someone brought the
paperwork in a day or two later and they just said,
beat it. I'm sure that's where we're at.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
I'm sure it was a fine show in Oakland tonight.
Dodgers every Friday, pretty much, if they're having a home
game on a Friday, it'll be fireworks night, but at Oakland,
some fireworks actually on the field for this team. First
pitch at the bottom of the ninth solo homer to
win the game to one over Toronto and sixteen thousand
happy people. Houston won and Anaheim seven and one over
the Angels. Complete game for from Berveldez. San Francisco a
(34:04):
five to two winner at Texas. Wilmer Flores hit two solo
homers the win to Logan Weboo pitched seven innings. Yes.
The White Sox ended a fourteen game losing streak, hit
three solo homers and beat Boston seven to two. Kansas
City was down seven nothing to the Mariners in the
top of the first. Royals won the game ten to
nine with three runs bottom of the ninth. Saint Louis
(34:25):
scored three in the bottom of the eighth and beat
Colorado eight five wins for Baltimore and Washington. Wins for
Pittsburgh and Miami. Cincinnati one at six straight. Dodgers in
eleven innings beat the Yankees in New York two to one,
and it was a two run double top of the
eleventh for the lead from ta Oscar Hernandez Milwaukee a
ten nothing winner at Detroit in the WNBA Everything's Final,
(34:47):
Seattle now seven and three won at Las Vegas seventy
eight sixty five. Phoenix hit home on a three pointer
at the Buzzer Edge Minnesota eighty one eighty and Brittany
Grinder played her season debut at eleven points. La was
two seven but got to win against Dallas eighty one
seventy two, and Indiana was two to nine, but Caitlin
Clark scored thirty points in a victory at Washington eighty
five eighty three the Washington Mystics now oh and eleven.
(35:11):
Last night's NBA Finals opener averaged only eleven million TV viewers.
By comparison, Yukon's final four games this year averaged fourteen
and a half million viewers. NBA Finals Game two is
Sunday night at Boston. Stanley Cup Finals starts Saturday, Edmonton
at Florida. Scottie Scheffler leads the memorial by three strokes.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Back to you, Thanks so much, Steve. Coming up next,
we'll break the first rule of fight Club. He's Ryan Hollinds,
I'm Mike Harmon, and this is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
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Speaker 3 (35:47):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon. Ryan Hollins in for Jason Smith to night.
Ten years in the league, working with the Houston Rockets,
an up and coming squad. They're gonna make life difficult
for Danny Hurley and company next year, as is the
rest of the Western Conference, though, Ryan Hollins No, no
(36:10):
easy buckets or wins running through the conference next year
for sure. At the Ryan Hollins where you find him
in the Twitter verse. Also, the history of the Opinionated
seven Footers podcast is out there for you as well.
And sometimes maybe he's up playing a video game and
you might be battling him and not even knowing too
(36:33):
deep Did I go too deep into the CEV? I
mean I didn't give out any game or handles so
people can come and stalk and try to take you out,
or anything.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
That happen one time on a show or something to
forget where it was so and put my my handle
up or a clip. Oh my gosh, my notifications start
going crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Du Well that it just means people care. They do care,
and that's all that really matters. They do care, all right,
because he cares a lot. We're gonna push the Jason Tatum.
We'll do that in ten minutes because we need to
give it it's full. Just do a game that many
called subpar still plus nineteen on the night in game
(37:15):
one as the Celtics have a resounding win. But I
liked his perspective of what he talked about in the
post game. But Shay brought something to our attention a
little bit earlier, you know, earlier we had the news
Mike Tyson his fight has been rescheduled into November. So yes,
it's going to happen. And for all of those that
(37:35):
thought it should be called off, don't watch other people's wallets,
because that's really what you were trying to do there,
because as Kevin Durant reminded us a long time ago,
Ryan Hollins, if you don't like it, don't watch. It's
a nice rule to live by. But Shae found us
an interesting fighting circumstance unrelated well kind of to what
(38:01):
we're looking at from the the Paul and Tyson fight.
And it really was curious as he added video clip
after video clip, so say take it away.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
So, as you guys know, the MMA has been kind
of taking storm in the sports world with the UFC
and then bare knuckle fighting leagues, Flap Fighting League, it's
all getting a lot of action. People are loving it,
people are betting on it. So there's this new league
called the World Freak Fight League. And there's something a
little special about this fight Fight League that it's a
(38:33):
little different than most.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So, I mean, the name didn't give that away.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
So basically in last night's card, they they had a couple.
The couple fight a no time limit about a three
round fight where the first round was MMA, the second
was kickboxing, and then the third was just straight boxing.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Okay, showing a variety of skills and acumen in the
pugilistic arts.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
And then this is where it gets a little crazier.
They had two little people going at it okay, and
then they also had an Edge Scheron look alike versus
a Stormzy look alike going at it. Stormzy is a
artist and Ed Sharon is an artist. If you didn't know,
Stormsy's a rapper, He's a UK based rapper. Okay, and
then we have a Eddie Hall versus two skinny smaller brothers.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
So a guy that looked like, for lack of a
better charm, Andre the Giant fighting a couple of normies.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Exactly exactly, And the video of Eddie Hall has been
circling around on x. If you guys want to see
that yourself, I'll also retweet it on my Twitter and
I'll have Mike Rei fsr sha if you guys want
to check it out. But it's it's something that's so new,
and it's something that we really don't see, but it's entertaining,
which is the biggest thing. So I did send it
(39:49):
to you guys, and I just want to see what
you guys thought about it.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Ryan, you want first swipe at this or you want
me to.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Go I couldn't stop looking, No, but that's just it. Right,
couple of times, right, you.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Watched the clips a couple of times, and it comes
back to, you know, getting back to identification, getting back
to UH trying to figure out how to capitalize if
you have a particular set of skills to steal from
Liam Neeson UH and an audience in a look at
me influencer kind of culture right between reality TV. If
(40:22):
here you want to get into the what is it
the Freak.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
League, World Freak Fight League.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
You know, and and you identify with one of the
categories that they're looking to employ, and you want to
cash a paycheck. Who am I to judge? You're still
watching it again?
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Hey? My thing is Okay, Mike, who do you fight?
If we pair you in the Freak League's host?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
You know, people have been trying to get Smith and
I to throw throw elbows for a while, and right
now he tells you he's the best shape of his
life and tries to show you his triceps. My man
ain't done a pull down in years. He's all in.
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(01:10):
previewing of Game two of the NBA finals, we've got
some more storylines coming out of Game one and reaction.
We'll get to Jason Tatum in a moment. But you
sent me something that was starting to circulate in the
twitter verse here, Ryan related to one Lebron James and
something he did in the social media sphere which has
(01:31):
really become a big deal the last couple of years.
When a player is dissatisfied with the team he's with,
starts to scrub some of the pictures, starts to scrub
some of the links, maybe takes a logo off of
their page. Maybe now it's them in a biker outfit
instead of in a uniform. I don't know, whatever the
(01:51):
case may be. You like that now you got that image,
didn't you?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Who's in a biker outfit?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I don't know. I just just had you know. I
had to dodge a couple of motorcyclists today traffic. Traffic
was moving pretty well on the four or five, two
days in a row. I don't know what this this
desk is made out of here, but I'm knocking hoping
that it's the beginning of a nice easy summer on
(02:19):
the freeways. Yesterday, I kid you, not right the expectation
was Smith was going to be working from home, like
we'd come in the first couple of days of the week.
He had some stuff running around, final days of school
with his daughter and all, and he is like, I'm
gonna probably work him home. And then he calls me
and he's on the way in to the office. And
(02:39):
now it's like five forty five, and now I live
pretty far south of lax And on a good night,
and I call it a good night. It's usually about
an hour and fifteen minute drive for me coming in
on the freeway to get into the studio to come
hang out with Mary, shay And and Steve and the team.
In the back right, we had Brie and Crandle getting
it done. And it takes forever. Right, that's a good day.
(03:02):
Some days it pushes towards two hours. And I pulled
up the map as he's telling me he's driving, and
he goes, well, you know game one. I'm like, I
tried to argue that with you yesterday, said you're staying home,
Like all right, So I pull up the map and
it says, all right, you can get there in forty minutes.
I got to here in thirty eight minutes flat, absolutely absurd,
record breaking time. That wasn't on a Sunday morning at
(03:24):
four am coming in to do radio with you, but
today double down, same thing. But then because in California,
the knuckle ahead motorcyclists and I love you the person,
not you as a motorcyclist. Uh, they're doing eighty and
weaving between lanes because legally you can weave between lanes.
(03:45):
Now eighty's obviously above speed limit, but you think you've
got to clear it all of a sudden whoa, whoa, whoa,
So you know you head on a swivel when you
know the traffic gods giveth and potentially take it away
with guys on their biker gear.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, my dad used to do that. We always feared
he dropped his bike. Finally that didn't. That wasn't what
did him in, but we always told him, man, dude,
we're not cool with you'd riding that bike.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I saw a guy get flipped about three months ago, right,
he weaved, he got back in and then the guy
stopped short and well I saw a guy flying without
his bike.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah. I'm not a big fan of it, no, but.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
There you go. That's why the biker came up, So
you got that. Lebron James has now unfollowed Ben Simmons
and Kendrick Perkins. He decided he'd have it, had enough
hot take nonsense from his former draft class mate, right
two thousand and three, two thousand and four, when Perk
(04:52):
came into the league with the Celtics. I remember it
because I have the two thousand and three, two thousand
and four Kendrick Perkins Tops rookie cards sitting there.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, you are big on cards. But listen, we talked
about this earlier in the show. Perk is my guy.
I thought this was unnecessary, and Lebron is doing a podcast.
I think it is appropriate due to the relationship that
he has with Kyrie, the statements that he made and
(05:27):
perctislated to him. Man, I listen, I didn't think the
shoe fit right now. Now, there's some moments. Can we
say Lebron kind of made things about him in certain times? Yeah,
it's fair enough. You know, he probably tell you that, Hey,
I know what I was doing.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You know, it's all calculated. None of it has happened stance.
Lebron doesn't stumble into things that doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
But I don't think in this statement, I think Perk
was wrong. I don't. I think Lebron was just doing
his podcast with JJ. Now there is there more behind it.
If not, I don't, I don't know. I don't know,
but I do think that Burk was wrong here and
ruffled ruffled feathers. As soon as I saw it, I
was surprised. I was like, Wow, Purk is he's going
(06:12):
in on bro Man. That that one's that one surprised me.
And then the unfollowing, I mean, it's weird. I just
hate our society right now. Man, You unfollow, you follow someone,
everybody's watching and paying attention. It's it's it's a thing now.
I mean, I guess I follow you.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
No, But that that's the difficult thing though. Ryan. We
were actually just talking about it with you know, Shay,
Shaye and Mary and I, you know, trying to figure
we got a story at forty five, Like Shane was
sending us some some tweets you and I earlier as
we're prepping for the show of a Fighting League that's
come up, and we got to go through the card
(06:50):
and watch ability and whether we start giving it some
some airtime overall because it it is. It's interesting, but
also just in terms of addressing people and day to
day not knowing where the line is where you're going
to offend people. I assume in four hours of doing radio,
if I had to do the I'm sorry thing right
(07:11):
to take from a long running show here in LA
You've got Heidi and Frank on Friday mornings. By the
end of the show, they've assembled a list of anybody
they may have offended in any of the jokes and
stories that they talked about that day. Every now and again,
I feel like I should do that sitting here with Smith,
because you might have taken this the wrong way. You
(07:31):
might have taken that one line and not heard the
full context all those things.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
How do you think Lebron can take this take from Perk?
You know what Perk said? How else can Lebron kind
of you know, like relay that message or accept it?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
No, that's just it right, It's hard, right. It's the personal,
you know, reaching out whatever and trying to come to
to some sort of agree to disagree or you see
my side, I see yours whatever, or you do this
act and in when you when you take this move,
it shows that that there's a break that has to
(08:10):
go to you know, with with Perk you know some
of it, and with Lebron and the Reddick podcast. Up
until Danny Hurley's name comes out, Uh, yesterday, was presumed
he was going to be the guy, and in the
background was well, the podcast seemed to be a month
long audition. Haha, right, and that's kind of where it it.
(08:31):
That was the you know, chuckle, snort, point watch laugh
whatever they deride it all. I thought it was going
to be fascinating, like and look, it's not done. Danny Hurley,
to my knowledge as of this moment, hasn't signed a deal.
Still might just be leveraging Yukon for all he can get.
I don't know what what's truth, what's fiction, and what
JJ Reddick would be if he were the coach, and
(08:54):
what that assembly of assistance would be. But yeah, certainly
in the hot take nonsense business that we get into
in this space. Sometimes Ryan, you know, guys go for
the punchline and hope it's just gonna gloss over. Problem is,
when you're going with a guy of Lebron's scope, someone's
(09:15):
gonna hear it in his circle and it's gonna get
back and you don't know how that's gonna hit or
maybe you do.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, listen, look man, because Perk is going to bat
for Bron, you know several times. Yeah, yeah, so I
will say Look like I said, this one surprised me.
I didn't see it coming. And you know, it is
tough in our shoes. We have to give takes, we
(09:45):
have to speak about things, and you know, maybe Perk
was trying. It almost felt like maybe Perk was trying
to say, hey, I'm gonna be fair in this, or hey,
I'm gonna go as hard on Lebron as I go
on everybody else. That's I almost felt like he was
proving that point. I don't think if that well, I
think you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I think you're one hundred percent right, just saying, look,
if this was any other player and any other circumstance
like this, where maybe and again, do you buy the
idea that Lebron is telling them no, no, no, don't worry
about me with the coaching search, because I don't buy
that for a second. Like I've had so many insiders
throw that up as as the line of no, no, no,
(10:26):
he's saying, you've got to do this, gotta do that,
Like he's got no say, I don't buy that, and
if nothing else, Clutch certainly has some say with the
number of players that are there on that roster. But
to that point, yeah, I think Perk to some degree
was trying to at least put himself in the position of, hey,
(10:46):
I got to be fair to this that if this
was any other player, I'd be killing him or everybody
else would be killing him. And unfortunately it feels I
you know, try to speak and put you some from Lebron'
shoes for a minute, just feels like piling on because
you know you're gonna get the usual suspects that are
gonna have their strong takes against him. And you know
(11:07):
who they are if you listen to sports talk radio
and watch sports television as you do, you're hanging out
with us on a Friday night into Saturday morning. Yeah,
you know who those guys are. You know the others
that are going to be sick of fans the other
way that Lebron can do no wrong and carry the
water for him at every turn. Obviously the truth somewhere
in between, and then you get Perk. You know, a
(11:28):
long time relationship going back a couple of decades tried
to be in the middle and play it fair and
it comes off stronger because he's never been on that
side or hasn't been on that side that regularly. And
like Michael Jordan used to look at that iPad, I
took that personally. Yeah, and now you're unfollowed.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I mean he went like this wasn't doing fair like
he just went hard. He went hard. But again, yet
no perk goes hard at a lot of people in
all fairness, definitely has but listen, we thought Lebron and
for the most part with perk keep being off limits.
Apparently not.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But you know, Ryan, like what what's the biggest criticism
is like, all right, keep that energy right? How often
do you hear that in our business?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The unfollow was big? Mike, do you feel like the
do you hate the unfollower? You are? You like all
in with the unfollowed.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Seems like a childlike thing, but it's a real thing.
But it's a real thing. In the last couple of years,
it's been a real thing.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
If I looked up today and you unfollowed me or tomorrow,
I'd be furious. And then it's like it'd be weird,
like we'd see each other in studio or something and o,
hey Mike, hey, hey, right.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know, like like energy, Yeah, one of those kind
of things. So what do you got change?
Speaker 5 (12:51):
So yeah, I'm obviously I'm a little younger. I'm twenty four.
Like the unfollowed thing has always been around for us.
Social media has always been a thing with me. The
only time I could see the unfollowed being like an
all right thing is with exes. It's that's generally the
only time I can see.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
But even that, folks generally still follow each other because
you still want to check up on what everybody's doing,
or maybe you still have friends or whatever in common.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I don't, And I don't like the thing with the
excess too, because you do it and it's like, oh
she's available, now she's not even if they're not even
and then it's like a look, we're not even following
each other.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
But that's the point, Like that's that's the whole point
of unfollowing people. It's like, Okay, we're not cool anymore,
or you upset me or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But that's the thing. Though, then you hear about it
because you still got friends in common if you've been
together fronty length of time or going to school together
or whatever. So you're gonna hear the stuff. So is
it better to see it online yourself and not unfollow?
You know, get in your separate corners to go into
our fight league kind of analogy, but you don't have
(13:57):
to interact, but you see it and you have to,
you know, just eat it.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
That's not how it works. That's not how it works.
You can follow, and then you can block, and then
you can do the like I'll check your story from
online and it will be a bunch of bots. Like
there's there's It gets deeper, man, the whole so deep.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So are we saying here that Perk and Lebron are done?
Are they like officially done?
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Cooked? It's over, It's over. They didn't want any confrontation
or anything. This was basically saying.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
There's no messy breakup.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Just that that is the messy breakup.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, they know, but there's no words. It's all.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
That's as messy as it gets.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
They kind of just if they have to follow each other,
they kind of have to fight it out.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So that's what seems lazy and soft as opposed to
duking it out. I'm just gonna unfollow you.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
No, No, that's a good point. That that is a
big thing. I mean, I don't know Perk comes back
from this, you're right, or does he? Well? I guess
Perk has to dress this on the show, right.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Oh absolutely? If this isn't this isn't talk like if
Hurley doesn't sign a contract or Reddick doesn't sign a contract.
You got game two and you got this, and then
if you do it like they did in game one,
you get a minute twenty of content and a lot
of commercials at halftime.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Okay, and let me ask this because because you guys,
the whole thing behind this is that Lebron, I guess
has makes things about himself in some weird way by
him unfollowing does he do exactly what was Kentrick's whole point?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
No, that's one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
So was he wrong in the first place, just throwing
it out there, soft, Lebron, don't unfollow me.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I can't say I've ever been followed by Lebron.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That's just poking fun.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No, I'm just saying. And if he were to unfollow me,
guess what I'd run the hell out of that. I
might get a billboard right out here when they get
rid of that clipped one and it rotates over. We'll
get into that a little bit later on too. Shay, Mary,
thank you so much. I don't know that we solved anything,
but that was fun. He's Ryan Hollins up by Carmen
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Speaker 3 (17:28):
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with you with our team. We got Mary, we got Shay,
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(17:50):
the late great Toby Keith and one of his number
one hits, because yeah, the conversation does eventually circle back
to Lebron James and here we are again between the
Lakers coaching search and now social media squabs. I want
to know what Ben Simmons did. Did he have something
on social that I missed or did you just decide
he was not buying into the Ben Ben Simmons hype anymore.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Well, I know Ben was signed under Clutch. I don't
know if he left Clutch, if it was a thing,
I'm sure what I didn't know? How you know, Ben
is catching more strays, man, Poor Ben Simmons, always catching strays.
I don't Maybe there's something that we don't know about,
you know. But nonetheless, you know we saw and heard
that last segment. The importance of the unfollowed me about that. Man,
(18:37):
that's a real thing.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, so now that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
That Now we gotta know what Ben Simmons did. He
did something?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
What do you think he did? Eight seven seven? No,
I'm just kidding at Swalling Dome at the Ryan Hollins
for all things non suggestive of what Ben Simmons might
have done to piss off Lebron James, although it is
a Friday night into Saturday morning. Curious that some of
the theories that might be bandied about. I mean, he
lost his jump shot. Now he loses Lebron James follow
(19:08):
Come on, that's just rough. Wow wow, No, that was
now you're giving him way too much credit. That was
far more clever than anything Jason Smith was going ada.
How about a fresca. Now you know what that is. Yeah,
(19:41):
we're going all the way back to the butt fumble
there the unmistakable as soon as you hear the name
Tom Moore. Uh, it goes from there. But yeah, Danny
Hurley now injects himself. Uh, he's injected into the conversation.
Woe Zerowski, who wrote a book about the family. See
this is how I love this stuff. You got Sham's reporting. Hey,
(20:02):
it's all what a certain that JJ Reddick's gonna get
the job. Meanwhile he's chilling for fan Duel. So you
got all sorts of betting odds and money that shuffles
around because of this. Can you tell I'm uneasy with
this a little bit, Ryan Hollins. And then on the
other side you got the all right, well it's you know,
Danny Hurley's been the long shot guy. And we talked
about this a long time ago. If you were coming
(20:25):
out of the National Title game, it's like, yeah, if
you once you decide you're firing Darvin Ham or anybody
else in the NBA, Yeah, you'd love to go kick
the door down and get an audience with Hurley and see,
you know, if you can find some kind of marriage
to be made there, but it didn't seem like that
was imminent for him, especially the way things are running.
(20:46):
But college basketball, college football, we've seen how many coaches
on either side just say I'm done with the way
the business of college sports goes anymore. And it's the
Lakers franchise, right It's like when Steve Balmer bought the
Clippers for two billion dollars and everybody was like, why
would he spend so much money? It's like, it's Los Angeles.
It's a team that came up for sale in Los
(21:08):
Angeles that ain't happening very very often. And lo and behold,
what's that franchise worth? Now? Man clipped is reminding you
of all the incidences that led to him coming onto
the scene. But it's the idea that you have the
opportunity to go and make your mark. And for Danny
Hurley right now, how much more can you do at Yukon?
(21:31):
I mean, you're already a legend. You've shown that you
can build, sustain and rebuild and retool a program. And
if you can go and do that with the Lakers,
an organization with a lot of history, but the recent
history has been I don't know, a bit chaotic and
twirly to steal from Phoebe buffet of friends.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Well, for Danny Early, I think this has to be
a no brainer. You can always go back to college,
you know, after the fact, but you can't always be
the Lakers coach, you know, you can't always do that.
And if they're gonna give you a long term deal,
that's the difference. And I think, you know, I'm not
sure what the details wherever Tyleru was like, Hey, I'm
not gonna take the Lakers job. That doesn't that doesn't
make sense for me because I don't think they were
(22:15):
going to give him the commitment that he was looking for.
But you got to do it, and you have to
be realistic. And here here's the mindset. You know, the
organizations they have, you know, two three four year plans out,
and they're saying, hey, at a certain point, Lebron James
are gonna slow down and we're gonna need someone to
do what. We're gonna need someone to develop, So how
about we go get the best college coach because we're
(22:37):
gonna have young players and you conran a very NBA
friendly offense there they've been creating pros, and it just
seems to really really make sense at this stage to
bring Herley on because Hey, Lebron's gonna need help and
you need a coach that can develop, So why not Hurley.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
No, it's good at Gino ari I'm gonna insert himself
into the conversation when it took a page out of
the Lebron James. Hey, with everybody talking about the WNBA
and stuff, nobody's talking about me. Hi, I'm Gino Ariema.
You may have known me from Yukon titles past and
he throws up his does his media tour whatever. But
the idea being, as you say, you know, eventually it's
(23:17):
the post Lebron James era. Right. There's some rumors that
we're looking at eight years, one hundred million dollars. That
was reported a little bit earlier coming out out of
laker Land from a couple of you know, folks that
covered the squad. How real those numbers are? The years
is what stands out for me to your point, Ryan,
(23:37):
It's not a three year, it's not your typical even
five year. It seems like it's a much longer term. Hey,
you get to actually build a program like you used
to once upon a time in college, which most guys
don't get a chance to do that anymore. Right, you're
in for a year or two, someone is that's a
big enough booster, decides they don't like you, or enough
guys transfer out or women transfer out, and suddenly you're
(24:01):
on the outs. But if you're legitimately looking at all, right,
what's the best to maximize whatever's left of lebron and Ad?
Potentially bring in Bronnie if that's the team plan, and
develop Austin Reeves and these other guys as much as
you know. Reddick, to me, I thought was an interesting, hey,
(24:23):
just outside the box, let's see how this works kind
of thing, because look, theory testing is fantastic Lakers doing
theory testing. I don't know that most people in LA
would be very much on board with that, but Danny Hurley,
I mean, there's a guy with credibility on all levels
and the respect bringing guys into the game and into
(24:45):
the NBA level. And I think with as much as
we talk about Lebron and Ad having to buy in,
I gotta imagine that it's a little easier buy in
there full on than Reddick or even some of the
other former coaches that we're looking to get back in
the game.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, no, Danny Hurley is definitely probably had his name
arguably on the coaches search. We haven't heard of any
other coaches being fired. But again, the development is the key,
and the Lakers are saying, hey, we have a group
of decent players, but hey, maybe if they can fit
into a system, maybe they have a good coach he
(25:26):
can put the pieces to this puzzle together. Because we've
got the Lakers. Big thing is they have to find
pieces to fit outside of Lebron. They got to create
production outside of him. And again, Lebron is so great
with his passing ability that he can go out and
he can just he just can kind of make plays,
you know, just being himself. So I think the challenge is, hey,
(25:50):
if there's a conducive offense, Lebron can do less and
he can play a whole lot longer.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well that's it, right, It's taken some of those weary
minutes we talk about him all the time, Right, thirty
minutes are not always thirty minutes in a game, you know,
depending on the pace and how you have to you know, defend,
because that's the other part which becomes the curiosity of
the style of play that that Hurley has run yukon at,
(26:19):
bringing that to the Lakers, and again getting veterans to
buy in. I think this is where the fact that
you've got a lot of younger guys on this roster
outside of your two A list stars might be to
your benefit. It particularly you know, we've seen him talk
so glowingly of guys like Zach Edy finding a place
in the NBA, so maybe he's a future Laker. You know,
(26:41):
for all your boiler Maker fans, you might have found
your fit, the Bronni thing whatever. But certainly you paid
Austin Reeves a lot of money. You did not get
the production that you expected from the money you paid
him this off this last season, and now it's trying
to find those other component parts.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah, look, I like it. I think I think we're
just thrown off by the soap opera of the you know,
the Shams and woj kind of picks. And you know,
normally when a guy goes out and reports something Shams
or woje like, that's a big slap in the face
(27:19):
to be like JJ Reddick looking to be the next
coach or whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Less than hours later, Yes, everybody wakes up slap.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, you're shams. You gotta be furious with that whoever
gave you that intail And you know, hey, maybe it
was an inside job and JJ was saying, hey, can
you put my name in the hat as a coach,
and you saw it with Toronto and kind of put
me in a good standing and you know that'll help
(27:48):
me out on the brock because we're shooting now. He's
he can do the broadcast thing probably for as long
as he wants, man, and that's always good to be
to be wanted. So you know, nothing like making your
boss kind of you know, turn an eye in somebody
else you know, wanting you.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
No, it's it always, you know, you got to apply leverage.
It's the old rule of thumb we talk about in
any business that you are, however you're making a living
out there listening to us across the globe, We appreciate
you stepping down. Maybe you're at work right now. It's
all about finding leverage, right to try to earn that
extra buck an hour or you know, better work environment things,
(28:23):
whatever your win would be in the spot. And certainly
for JJ Redick, Yeah, I mean you always wonder where
information flows and we'd heard from the Lakers were doing
their due diligence, which I don't know. I think it's
kind of sad that we had to point that out
that it wasn't day. Hey, we we like one guy.
(28:45):
We've locked into one guy. That's done, because I mean,
that's just malpractice, malfeasance of running a multi billion dollar
operation if you locked into one guy without talking to others.
And really, with the JJ Reddick of the last story
of the last week, it became a great Vegas misdirection.
If all along Hurley's still been simmering in the background
(29:08):
with some basic conversations before heading to LA today.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well, it seemed like everybody was kind of really shaking
their head at the JJ Reddick name and saying, hey,
it's a Lebron, it's a Lebron, it's a Lebron, And
I wonder what, like, there's something fishy here going on,
and was it, Hey, we don't want this backlash of
it being JJ Reddick. Let's heat things up with Danny Hurley.
(29:34):
Maybe you know Danny. Danny Hurley team was saying, hey, man,
if you ain't gonna and this is what a reputable
coach is going to do with the Lakers situation. This
is why they've missed out on a lot of other coaches.
They're not willing to give the commitment and it's a
job where you're just waiting to be fired. Just ask
Darvin Ham what Darvin's like? What did I do wrong?
(29:55):
So Danny Hurley may have been saying, hey, you know,
JJ may for sure would be willing to say, hey,
you pay me whatever, I'll come in. You can fire
me whatever, it's gonna put me in a great light,
where Danny Hurley maybe was saying, you gotta give me
a long deal. Yeah, I don't get a long deal.
I'm not taking this job. And maybe that's what ended
(30:18):
up happening. And you know that what happened was Hurley
looks like he's going to get the deal. So whatever,
the real story behind this is, I am intrigued to
know because something happened. There's a shift and I can see.
And that's why JJ was a realistic name. Because the
Lakers do not like to pay money.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
No, that's just it. Try to work on the cheap,
work with the relationship because a lot of it, whether
they like it or not, whether Lebron bristles and follows
me just to unfollow me immediately. It's the perception becomes
reality of you've got veteran players running the show. I mean,
Darvin Ham, what was his mistake? Anthony Davis went and said, Hey,
(30:58):
this guy doesn't seem to know what he's doing, right,
we don't seem to know what we're doing. Well, is
that's not players. That means the coaches aren't communicating. So
I mean that's about as long a leash as you're
gonna get. You know, when the star players are calling
that out, and you get the Zippruterer film of guys
showing an empty whiteboard when you're calling a time out
in the final seconds of a game, ostensibly to try
(31:20):
to set up a winning shot. So like all of
that comes back against you. Yeah, for JJ Reddick, his
name got some run and he's firmly entrenched in the
NBA Finals telecast, and as I joked about before a
minute twenty of actual analysis at halftime in between commercials
of game one, we'll see what happens for Game two.
(31:43):
He's Ryan Hollins. I'll buy car But we'll get back
to the Jason Tatum as well as a League. That
is a very curious thing that well might we might
have to go partake of a future card. But that's
coming up in a minute. But first it's Steve de
Seger with what's trending, including a white Sox rare Yes.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
By the way, the less of that halftime show the better.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Oddly, Oh no, no, God, any argument from me.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
It is odd though the amount of talking compared to
the amount of spots I mean TNT, as we all know,
run circles around that show. TNT could be on its
last year of having the NBA. Next season we'll see.
There are reports that TNT Sports will be getting the
French Open rights for ten years starting next year. French
Open winds up this weekend. In pairs. Carlos Alcarez one
(32:28):
his semi final in five sets today, beating the new
number one come Monday, Janick Center of Italy six to
three in the fifth number four seat. Alexander Zverev also
won today. An American Cocoa Goff advance to the women's
doubles final. In Saturday's women's final, number one Egas Fiantek
will face number twelve seed Jasmine Paulini of Italy. And
now everything is final in Major League Baseball. In San Diego,
(32:51):
the Padres have just defeated the Arizona Diamondbacks ten to three,
blowing it open with five runs in the bottom of
the eighth. We have the attendance from Oland tonight. Yesterday
they had a day game at ten and six thousand tonight,
sixteen thousand really did not realize it was fireworks night.
Oh congratulations.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well, with most cities now canceling their July third or
July fourth fireworks, are they the only place you're getting
them is at the ballpark? Really, cities, there's a lot
of cities that are just saying we don't have the money.
I just heard something locally here. I forget which heard
it on KFI six forty here on some of.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
The beach communities, usually.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Where one got denied permits because they tried to file
too late.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Holy cow, it's July fourth.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
So they said whatever the deadline was. Someone brought the
paperwork in a day or two later and they just said,
beat it. I'm sure that's where we're at.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
I'm sure it was a fine show in Oakland tonight.
Dodgers every Friday, pretty much, if they're having a home
game on a Friday, it'll be fireworks night, but at Oakland,
some fireworks actually on the field for this team. First
pitch at the bottom of the ninth solo homer to
win the game to one over Toronto and sixteen thousand
happy people. Houston won and Anaheim seven and one over
the Angels. Complete game for from Berveldez. San Francisco a
(34:04):
five to two winner at Texas. Wilmer Flores hit two solo
homers the win to Logan Weboo pitched seven innings. Yes.
The White Sox ended a fourteen game losing streak, hit
three solo homers and beat Boston seven to two. Kansas
City was down seven nothing to the Mariners in the
top of the first. Royals won the game ten to
nine with three runs bottom of the ninth. Saint Louis
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scored three in the bottom of the eighth and beat
Colorado eight five wins for Baltimore and Washington. Wins for
Pittsburgh and Miami. Cincinnati one at six straight. Dodgers in
eleven innings beat the Yankees in New York two to one,
and it was a two run double top of the
eleventh for the lead from ta Oscar Hernandez Milwaukee a
ten nothing winner at Detroit in the WNBA Everything's Final,
(34:47):
Seattle now seven and three won at Las Vegas seventy
eight sixty five. Phoenix hit home on a three pointer
at the Buzzer Edge Minnesota eighty one eighty and Brittany
Grinder played her season debut at eleven points. La was
two seven but got to win against Dallas eighty one
seventy two, and Indiana was two to nine, but Caitlin
Clark scored thirty points in a victory at Washington eighty
five eighty three the Washington Mystics now oh and eleven.
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Last night's NBA Finals opener averaged only eleven million TV viewers.
By comparison, Yukon's final four games this year averaged fourteen
and a half million viewers. NBA Finals Game two is
Sunday night at Boston. Stanley Cup Finals starts Saturday, Edmonton
at Florida. Scottie Scheffler leads the memorial by three strokes.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Back to you, Thanks so much, Steve. Coming up next,
we'll break the first rule of fight Club. He's Ryan Hollinds,
I'm Mike Harmon, and this is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon. Ryan Hollins in for Jason Smith to night.
Ten years in the league, working with the Houston Rockets,
an up and coming squad. They're gonna make life difficult
for Danny Hurley and company next year, as is the
rest of the Western Conference, though, Ryan Hollins No, no
(36:10):
easy buckets or wins running through the conference next year
for sure. At the Ryan Hollins where you find him
in the Twitter verse. Also, the history of the Opinionated
seven Footers podcast is out there for you as well.
And sometimes maybe he's up playing a video game and
you might be battling him and not even knowing too
(36:33):
deep Did I go too deep into the CEV? I
mean I didn't give out any game or handles so
people can come and stalk and try to take you out,
or anything.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
That happen one time on a show or something to
forget where it was so and put my my handle
up or a clip. Oh my gosh, my notifications start
going crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Du Well that it just means people care. They do care,
and that's all that really matters. They do care, all right,
because he cares a lot. We're gonna push the Jason Tatum.
We'll do that in ten minutes because we need to
give it it's full. Just do a game that many
called subpar still plus nineteen on the night in game
(37:15):
one as the Celtics have a resounding win. But I
liked his perspective of what he talked about in the
post game. But Shay brought something to our attention a
little bit earlier, you know, earlier we had the news
Mike Tyson his fight has been rescheduled into November. So yes,
it's going to happen. And for all of those that
(37:35):
thought it should be called off, don't watch other people's wallets,
because that's really what you were trying to do there,
because as Kevin Durant reminded us a long time ago,
Ryan Hollins, if you don't like it, don't watch. It's
a nice rule to live by. But Shae found us
an interesting fighting circumstance unrelated well kind of to what
(38:01):
we're looking at from the the Paul and Tyson fight.
And it really was curious as he added video clip
after video clip, so say take it away.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
So, as you guys know, the MMA has been kind
of taking storm in the sports world with the UFC
and then bare knuckle fighting leagues, Flap Fighting League, it's
all getting a lot of action. People are loving it,
people are betting on it. So there's this new league
called the World Freak Fight League. And there's something a
little special about this fight Fight League that it's a
(38:33):
little different than most.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So, I mean, the name didn't give that away.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
So basically in last night's card, they they had a couple.
The couple fight a no time limit about a three
round fight where the first round was MMA, the second
was kickboxing, and then the third was just straight boxing.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Okay, showing a variety of skills and acumen in the
pugilistic arts.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
And then this is where it gets a little crazier.
They had two little people going at it okay, and
then they also had an Edge Scheron look alike versus
a Stormzy look alike going at it. Stormzy is a
artist and Ed Sharon is an artist. If you didn't know,
Stormsy's a rapper, He's a UK based rapper. Okay, and
then we have a Eddie Hall versus two skinny smaller brothers.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
So a guy that looked like, for lack of a
better charm, Andre the Giant fighting a couple of normies.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Exactly exactly, And the video of Eddie Hall has been
circling around on x. If you guys want to see
that yourself, I'll also retweet it on my Twitter and
I'll have Mike Rei fsr sha if you guys want
to check it out. But it's it's something that's so new,
and it's something that we really don't see, but it's entertaining,
which is the biggest thing. So I did send it
(39:49):
to you guys, and I just want to see what
you guys thought about it.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Ryan, you want first swipe at this or you want
me to.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Go I couldn't stop looking, No, but that's just it. Right,
couple of times, right, you.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Watched the clips a couple of times, and it comes
back to, you know, getting back to identification, getting back
to UH trying to figure out how to capitalize if
you have a particular set of skills to steal from
Liam Neeson UH and an audience in a look at
me influencer kind of culture right between reality TV. If
(40:22):
here you want to get into the what is it
the Freak.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
League, World Freak Fight League.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
You know, and and you identify with one of the
categories that they're looking to employ, and you want to
cash a paycheck. Who am I to judge? You're still
watching it again?
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Hey? My thing is Okay, Mike, who do you fight?
If we pair you in the Freak League's host?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
You know, people have been trying to get Smith and
I to throw throw elbows for a while, and right
now he tells you he's the best shape of his
life and tries to show you his triceps. My man
ain't done a pull down in years. He's all in.
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