June 8, 2024 • 41 mins
On tonight's edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Ryan Hollins is pinch hitting for Jason Smith! The guys open the hour breaking down the NBA Finals with Boston taking Game 1. Next, the guys react to LeBron James comments on Kyrie Irving! Pro Football Hall of Fame Voter and long time friend of the show Jason Cole joins the show to talk everything NFL and OTAs. Finally, the guy's dive into the WNBA and Caitlin Clark! Listen to all that and so much more in hour 2!
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Greetings, Welcome in our two of the program. Here on
a beautiful Friday night Byke Carbon alongside Ryan Hollins, with
you Jason Smith taking the night off, exhaling as we
get ready for Game two of the NBA Finals on Sunday,
Game one Stanley Cup Final. Remember leave off the s
for savings. This is tomorrow night. Florida and Edmonton get
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after it. And as you heard in Steve de Seger's update,
or maybe you didn't, White Sox actually won a game,
Ryan Hollins fourteen game losing streak goes to the wayside,
and for once I'm on the right side of the street.
I don't know what to do with myself. I'm celebrating.
(01:11):
Yesterday you had the guy teasing the postgame show. It's like,
I guarantee you it's gonna be more entertaining than any
of the stuff you've been watching. He didn't quite say it,
he got close, but one of those live mic moments
that we'll remember forever, like we have so many here
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Game two, a couple of days off after the resounding
(01:55):
victory on the home court the Boston Celtics is you
heard Steve Desager and the up last hour give us
the at home, thirty seven and four in the playoffs,
the last four season that'll take it to nineteen and
fifteen at home. A lot of opportunity and one of
the big key components that we talked about it a
(02:15):
little bit last hour. As we finally got you up
in the gremlins went away for a minute, Ryan Hollins is,
I wanted to circle back to the Chris stops porzingis
part of the equation. The ramping him back up and
making the decision of when it was time to unleash
the unicorn. Por Zingis talked about coming off the bench.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
From day one.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I came here and I said, like, I'll do whatever
it takes to help the team win, right, And I
think it was this situation, you know, it made sense
and I didn't care. I didn't care. I knew I
could prepare to come off the bench, which is something
different from me. And that's what I did and stepped
into that role and embraced it and had a good game.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
You got the luxury as you spoke of earlier Missoula,
in terms of how many starters that you have right,
the capital s, lowercase s, however you want to do it.
The fact that you've got the depth to deploy and
a guy that can come off the bench that at
his best is a twenty a game scorer and a
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rim protector, shot alterer. All of that, and I mentioned
on the show last night, Ryan, everything that was in
the scouting report of Christaps Porzingis coming back in when
he came into the league and started to develop in
New York. You saw every bit of it at its
best yesterday.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
No, he was special and again, you know, protecting the
rim and then offensively, you know, taking advantage of the mismatches.
And you know that kind of had been the kind
of knock on Perzingas that you could have put. You
put a small guy on him. He didn't go and
take advantage, and that's what he did. You know, he
looked fresh, he looked rested, and you know, I think
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we're all questioning, you know, hey, how bad is that injury?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
How bad is he hurt?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
And he was absolutely spectacular. But he really ruined the
Mavericks game plan where they don't like to switch, they
like to stay home with their bigs.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And I thought even bigger.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
You saw more of Maxi Kleeber instead of Lively and
Gaffer than you wanted to. And that's where Porzingis is
a problem because when you put Lively on him, he
ends up having to pull Lively away from the basket,
and that's something you don't.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Want to do.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Then you're going, Okay, do I put him on Derek White?
You know, I can't put him on Tatum or Brown
and that becomes a problem. But for Dallas, what makes
them special is their ability to go out and play
big and kind of protect the paint.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So you know, porzingis really ruins this series right here.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, lively and absolute non factor yesterday, eighteen minutes played,
he had two points, five fouls, and he was a
minus fifteen. Did add five rebounds an assistant of steal.
But yeah, just trying to figure out that piece of
the chess match. But it all comes back, you know,
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from the Dallas side on the offensive end, Ryan to
what happened with the flow right, nine block shots for
Boston and Dallas had nine assists, ball stopped and Kyrie
irving time and again got into a cluttered lane and
(05:30):
had to make that last second decision and instead of
finding an open shooter or a cutter, it was resetting
the offense back outside the three point arc with eight
seconds left on the shot clock and the ball out
of his hands.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yeah yeah, And you know, again, if you're the Mavericks,
they're at a point right now where uh, I think
it's still house money. I think they're gonna have to adjust.
I didn't think their respect was really shown to poor
zingis I think what's scary is I think that I
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think there's adjustments that Boston can still play because of
their depth. But I think for Boston, they got away
from defending, they got away from moving the basketball, and
those key components really hurt them. And it was like
kind of like Luca shoot over these you know, six
hands in.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
The right and that was the game plan.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
No, and that was the thing. It just it got
bogged down early. Like they didn't shoot particularly well from
the three point arc, just seven of twenty seven by
way of contrast, Boston sixteen of forty two for a
good for thirty eight percent. Right, Some of the other
statistical categories kind of a wash along the way, but
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twenty three assists for Boston getting out on breaks, moving
the basketball, finding the open shooter, including Porzingis several times.
Versus Dallas, everything a bit rushed and never really finding
that space and continuity, and Kyrie Irving was left to
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his eleven straight loss against his former squad. You believe
in curses.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I don't believe in curses, but I think that sometimes
things are just coincidental.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
They they just had to just stack up a bit
because I just remember him walking around with the sage brush.
I joked about it a little bit before we were
able to.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Get at with you.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Remember he was doing that for a while, he might
need a couple of those.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Well, I know, emotionally, you can want something so bad
that like you take yourself out of the game. Sure,
And I remember Lebron's first game in Cleveland. All the
fans were like, if you don't win one game, just
win this one game right here, win this one game,
and like, you know, it became such a thing that
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when we came out, we realized the game wasn't about us.
We want to win for the fans. It was kind
of like the only big, major thing we had going
on that season. But everybody played terrible because you wanted
to play well.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
You knew the.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
National attention was there, you know, T and T was
in the house and everything was going on. But at
the end of the day we laid an egg because
there was so much emotion there. For me, playing against
a former team, you know, was always a thing. And
then the second game is when i'd ball or play well.
But it's natural that you know, just there's there's so
much emotion, and keep in mind, you know, this is
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the most healthiest and you know, best efforts that we've
seen from Kyrie in a long time.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So I think at the end of the day, he's
going to play better.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
And I said this earlier this week when asked, I
think it's going to be like Game.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Three before we see I replay.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Well, I still think he's going to have some cop
webs that dust off.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
A little bit of you know, getting back into the mix.
He had this quote after the game, kind of talking
about shaking off in game one and what he needs
to do.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
When you lose a game like this, especially in finals
where everyone's watching, it's gonna hit you a little bit.
But again, like I said, now is the time to
not get on social media and not pay attention to
what you guys are saying. No disrespect, but we got
to go out there and just focus on what we
can control. And I just know how the next two
days are gonna go. Man, it's gonna be very loud.
It's gonna be very chaotic at times. People are gonna
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have words to say about how we can be better
or how we're gonna win or lose a series. But again,
it's about us focusing on what we can control in
that locker room.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Really, it just shows the level of presence, maturity, recognition
of the moment and now it becomes the all right,
you paid it lip service? Can you actually do it
for the two days and not let it get under
your skin? Right to your point, you know, it is
the most basketball he's played in a long time, right
injury shortened seasons and whatever else transpiring in the background
(09:52):
that you look at the elevated stakes here and this
goes for both sides. We've got a great quote from
Jason Tatum. We'll hear uh coming up at the top
of next hour, you know, kind of how he's perceiving
things for this series. But for Kyrie Irving, you know,
there's a lot of weight and don't forget Lebron, as
we fully expected he would injected himself into the conversation
(10:16):
when he you know, I'm proud of him and all
of that stuff, you know, and look, you know, happy
for him and all that, but basically saying, oh, he
gets a shot to do it because remember he did
it with me.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, no, And.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That's that shadow of Lebron had to had to you know,
insert itself here.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well that that.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Kind of wasn't fair, you know, the Lebron thing, because
he is podcasting. He was asked, I think you know,
I didn't think I didn't think he was inserting himself
too much in his situation.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
He was like, what else does he do? I think
he's got to be happy for it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
For him, I like the the happy for him. The
when he's say, proud of the contemporary, it always kind
of hits me a little different really, like I didn't
expect that he'd be able to do that, So I'm
proud of him. He's really grown up. That's how I
hear it. Shae and I actually were having this conversation
before the show that am I wrong? Shae like, like,
(11:16):
that's how I interpret it. I think I was more
eloquent perhaps before the show than I am now in
terms of laying this out. But just you know, when
you have that contemporary, it's usually like I'm happy for you, right,
you get a promotion, you get a nice mention somewhere
or whatever. But you know, to have someone come back
over I'm proud of you is kind of like they
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see themselves a little bit higher than you and it's like, hey,
look at you.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
Yeah, I definitely do agree with you in that sense.
And I'm a Lebron fan, like I'm a Laker fan.
Lebron's king like, don't get me wrong, but when I
saw that on Twitter or X, I was like, Okay,
what's why are you making this about you right now?
Almost like I don't I love him, I love his tweets,
I love his Instagram posts, but that one thing really
did feel like with good job, leb Bro, Like that's
(12:03):
literally what I thought of it as.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
But I mean, maybe were is it there though?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
That Kyrie is little brother to Lebron and and those
guys have hit it off so much so that you know,
Kyrie is very outamant. Hey I want to go to
la I want to be a Laker. Hey Lebron, you know,
come to Dallas or maybe let's figure something out. Let's
let's work out a trade, like like there was a
(12:29):
lot there, like they had definitely you know, that created
a rapport. So I think the relationship is intact to
say it, you know, I don't. I don't think if
the relationship wasn't there, I'd say maybe a little unhanded, underhanded.
But I feel like those two talk again, or at
least you know, they're cordial, they're friendly, they're texting.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Sure, right, yeah again the happy for you said I'm
full on in the other one is just I don't know.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
It hits the ear wrong when when you put when
you put it that way now, like the little Brother
seems a little bit less of like ah, because technically, yeah,
I mean when they were at Cleveland, he almost was
his little brother, you know what I mean? Like I technically,
I definitely do see that, and I don't think.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Oh, way to backtrack? Do we get a truck backing up?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Sound?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
God, he changed my mind.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Just like that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It took you three lines, Hollins, I didn't you might
you should go run for a sentence. Good God, man,
I didn't think about the past at all.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
But you're right there, You guys a little bit of
both in that sense.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
But no, Mike Can says he's proud of me, like
you know, like we text, we talk like yeah, it
would be offitted.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, No, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
It's just one of those things.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
If I was in the NBA finals of radio, right,
I'd be really happy for you.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
We don't be proud.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'm proud that my God brought it home. And I'll
say I remember him when and he buys past me,
and then I'll be old and bitter. Like radio hosts
and TV host get how about that? Oh gosh and
basketball players.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Now, if you're like, wow, I never thought Ryan would
get to this point, it is.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, but that's what But that's my point. That's kind
of how I hear it from Lebron is that it's
a little bit of Oh, you're really matured. Didn't see
that happening. Good for him, I'm proud of him. That's
kind of how I heard that.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
No.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Now, in all reality, that's how it was looking, So
you know there's some truth there. But if you're on
a texting basis, like, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I think he's genuinely happy.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, No, and that's good and he's at a good place.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
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You can find the podcast up Fox Sports Weekends, Fox
Sports Sunday, Hollins and Harmon a lot of that discussion. Here,
we'll put a pin in this for now because we've
got our guy Jason Cole coming up next talking to
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tried to emulate that because I see the future and
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Ryan Hollins, Mike Harmon with you here, Jason Smith off
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head out to the hotline here, Ryan Hollins, bring it
a long time friend of the show's our guy, Jason Cole,
Jay Cole, Happy, OTAs, how are you?
Speaker 10 (16:59):
I'm grooving right now. I'm feeling good. Right now, you
get Prince going, I'll let you just just stop. What
the heck is that?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well, because I wanted more?
Speaker 10 (17:08):
All right, what are we going? Man?
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Like?
Speaker 10 (17:13):
We got finally we have something entertaining to listen to
on the show.
Speaker 11 (17:18):
So, oh my god, Jess, he will do Randy Savage
like straight off the top room.
Speaker 10 (17:29):
Well, let me say this. I was thinking about this
before as I was on hold. I've done so many
appearances do here like I'm sort of like if it
was cars. I'm sorry dating myself on this one, of course,
which I offered you. Am I like as a regular guest?
Am I sort of like Burt Reynolds. Am I like
(17:50):
Don Rickles? Or am I Don Delauise? Which which one
of those Rickles?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, because you got the sarc asm that comes through
and you'll you'll take their shot at Smith and then
smile at them while you do it.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
So yeah, yeah, and seeing as how Mets are doing
so well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We exported that to London by the way this weekend.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
Yeah, that should be quite a show, just like MLB,
let's put our best out there.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah you go, kind of like when we always send
the Jaguars off to London as well.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
Well, I gotta gotta hide them somewhere, so one less
game for the for the locals to see. Trevor Lawrence
lives and underperformed. So there you go.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well there's a good place to start, uh. Seeing as
the rest of that draft class has been shuffled into
new environments, what do we expect from from Trevor Lawrence
this year?
Speaker 10 (18:56):
So? I think I told the story before, but but
I think it is kind of representative of the kind
of quarterback he is, which is you supremely talented. Like,
don't get me wrong, I think he can do anything
on the field, but there was there were teams that
interviewed him at the combine pre draft basically right combine
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other pre draft moments, and they would ask him, explain
to me what happened on display right, And when you
ask Peyton Manning to do that, or Tom Brady or
you know, a lot of the greats I'm not saying
every single one they will, but a lot of them
they will tell you, oh, yeah, this happened to happen.
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And if you watch, like the defensive end dropped, they
brought a linebacker, safety, showed showed coverage and then came
like you know, like they can diagnose the play and
they remember stuff, and Trevor Lawrence would just sit there
and I don't remember. You know, well, I don't know.
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I don't remember. And it is again, that's not like
to say that he can never be a great quarterback,
but there's like a missing ingredient that between what the
truly greats are and the memory that they have and
the display you know, the memory that they call upon,
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so that when they're ready for the next play, can
they access it right away? And can they say, Okay,
this team did this and this and this, I'm going
to expect this and I won't be fooled, and therefore
the game slows down for them. With Trevor Lawrence, you're like,
he still kind of plays not like a rookie, because
that was a wasted year under urban Meyer and that
(20:48):
was that was that was tragic for Trevor Lawrence, but
like just not picking things up as fast as he
should and things don't click as quickly as they should.
They don't have to pay them because they're pot committed
as the poker term goes, so they're gonna pay him
forty five to fifty million dollars a year, whatever the
going rate is. But I'm getting further and further away,
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and this is going to be a critical year from
believing like this is a guy who's going to take
you to multiple Super Bowls and puts you right there
with Patrick Mahomes right and right there with Josh Allen
or right there with any of the other great quarterbacks.
I think he's sort of fifth or six, and he's
sort of like between the really really good ones. And
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like a Kirk.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Cousin, what's Dala is going to do? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 6 (21:41):
What are they gonna do? And what should they do?
Are those two things gonna match?
Speaker 10 (21:47):
I think I think they like they should go all
in Andrey Lance just like push right in and wow
gray Jack, right now we can let's just make it happen.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Right, Hollin's you got your sarcasm bucket there.
Speaker 10 (22:02):
Just a little bit, yes, a little bit more. It's
more like it's more like a sixty gallon trash can
not really a bucket. Look, they're they're stuck with what
they're you know, they're gonna pay Dak He's not going anywhere?
What did they have.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
To pay him?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Like? Like what do you have to pay him?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Like?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Should he be team from? Like where is he gonna go?
Speaker 10 (22:27):
Go to Kirk? Take Kirk Cousins contract and add another
three million onto it? Right right? That's just what it's.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Gonna be, seems to be the going rate, and the
price of poker continues to rise.
Speaker 10 (22:40):
Remind me, I'm not recalling what what was Cousin's deal?
Was it forty five a year or was it a year?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Well, let me uh, let me pull that up as
we sit. Yeah, four years one eighty, No, four years
one eighty with one hundred million guaranteed. I got fat fingers,
but I got there fast.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Yeah, they're forty five million, so he's gonna go north
of fifty million a year. It's just it's just the price.
And meanwhile, brock Perty sitting here going go go go, go, go,
go go, right, because it just drives his number up,
Like they're again, they're stuck. They're gonna have to pay
(23:21):
CD lamb, They're gonna pay Parsons. That's just how they
do it. The only problem that they have is the
cowboys act as if we're always going to get a
bargain if we keep waiting, and they wait and they
wait and they wait, and they're never proactive. So they're
always paying the premium price on these guys instead of
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getting out in front of it. And so the longer
you wait for star players, the more expensive it gets.
Like like right now, San Francisco is trying to get
Brandon and I are done, and you know they're they're
trying to get him done for like twenty six or
twenty seven million dollars a year, and it's like probably
not going to happen, you know, like that's just that's
(24:04):
not really likely, you know. I mean, he's gonna wait
it because he's gonna say I want twenty eight or
twenty nine because I'm better than Jalen Waddle, and he
has a good argument that he is. I just would
say that, I would say to him, stay in San
Francisco because that's the best place for you to be
because the quarterback trusts you and that's how to work
(24:26):
with you, and he's going to hold you accountable, so
you're going to get If you stay in San Francisco,
you're probably gonna get the best out of yourself and
maximize your career. And that means that if you get
to a third contract or even better.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
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What was the exact title of the The Your Kids?
Speaker 10 (24:53):
Your Kids? Not that great?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
That's it? That is it is the graduation season. That's
a that's a great one to give to all your
friends who were posting all their pictures of their kids.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
I will do signs copies for anybody who wants to
give to their kids as they get their diploma. I
did that, especially especially at Stanford graduation this Sunday where
one of my friends is his daughter is graduating and
then she's like she's graduating and then she's immediately going
to Teris that night. Oh, Like what what kind of
(25:24):
deal was that? Like that didn't happen? Like I got
to go to like I think Redwood City I graduated.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
There were a couple of decent restaurants in Redwood City,
as I recall living.
Speaker 10 (25:38):
Up there, Ferry Harry's hop Row there you go now gone? Yeah, yeah, great,
great buffet, great buffet and.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Harry's all those years ago. Hey, what does it mean
when Jalen Hurt says ninety five percent of the offense
is new? How inspired should I be by that?
Speaker 10 (25:55):
I I don't know what that means? Like a thing
to me? Why are you completely changing ninety five percent
of your offense when two years ago it was pretty good?
Like you know, like why aren't you working to get
back to the parts that worked really well instead of like, oh,
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we're going to do some new fangle thing. Like I
just I don't quite get that. Now that said, Jalen
Hurts does need to progress in his game. You know,
there are things that he doesn't do very well. He
holds the ball a little bit too long, all that
kind of stuff. But there's a there's a player who
can get you to a championship game, to a super Bowl.
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He's done that, especially in a very weak NFC. But
I don't quite understand like we're reinventing the whole offense
for right now with Jalen Hurts. So I take that
as one of those lines like I'm in the best
shape of my life, which is to be like, you know, okay,
(26:58):
I did a few less chocolate shake at McDonald's this offseason,
right like if you're like Rowdy Feles in baseball, but
you canal that.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, but you can buy one and get one off
the app for an extra twenty nine cents. J Cole,
I mean, I.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
Understand that it's a great deal and that works for me,
But I'm not a professional athlete. I may look like
Dan vogel Bach, which reminds me of a great story
from what is the Lefty for?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Was it not?
Speaker 10 (27:34):
It wasn't losing for the for the Philly John. Yeah,
John Cruck, who you know, was at a restaurant one
time and was eating like crazy and some lady said,
you know, you're an athlete, you should be eating bettering.
He goes, lady, I am an athlete. I'm a ballplayer.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
One of the great stories of yesteryear. As we go,
as you get out and about on your Friday night,
j Cole, thanks for stopping down with us tonight.
Speaker 10 (28:02):
It's always a pleasure. So I will I will go
on and don't be like Dom Delawise where you put
eggs in my pants or something like that.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
There you go, More Rickles, more Rickles appearances in his
future at Jason Gole sixty two. Send him off, my guy,
we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Brother damn appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
He never you never know what you're gonna get from
j Cole, Ryan Hollins, And usually there's a lot more
antagonism of my my normal co host Jason Smith out
here tonight. Hey, you know the acid tongue Jason Gold
that sometimes fires off. Uh, And certainly we would have
(28:41):
had more butt fumble references. But now it's time to
turn it over. Steve Desager gets to do this update
and maybe he'll include my score. Yes, And if not,
that's okay, because I'll know for once my team won
a damn game. Hi, Steve de Sager.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Yes, And Jason Smith's team did not play at all tonight.
By the way, Jason Smith in the best shape of
his life.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
That's what he tells you.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
The White Sox ended a fourteen game losing streak and
I beating Boston seven to two. White Sox hit three
solo homers. Winning pitcher Garrett Crochet six innings, one earned run,
allowed ten strikeouts. And then there was the game at
Kansas City. The Royals win ten to nine over Seattle.
According to the great researcher Sarah Langs, in the last
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forty years of Major League Baseball, only two teams have
done what Casey did in this comeback tonight, to give
up seven runs at least in the first inning while
scoring none in the first and still come back and
win the game. Mariners were up seven to nothing top
of the first, up eight to nothing in the fourth.
Casey wins it with three runs, bottom of the ninth,
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ten to nine. The final Bobby Witt Junior with the
tying RBI triple. He had three more hits. He's batting
three twenty three. The Dodgers at Yankee Stadium were scoreless
through ten LA wins it in eleven innings, two to
one to run double top of the eleventh from Tascar Hernandez.
Bottom of the eleventh Aaron Judge with an RBI single
to get close. Gencarlos Stanton, La Native went zero for
(30:09):
five with three strikeouts. Cincinnati won at six straight game
three two over the Cubs, wins for San Francisco and Miami,
wins for Baltimore and Washington. Saint Louis b Colorado eight
five with three runs in the bottom of the eighth,
another save for the Cards closer Ryan Helsley his twenty
first of the season. Pittsburgh three nothing over Minnesota. Twins
have lost four straight and Milwaukee had lost three in
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a row, but got a ten nothing victory at Detroit.
There are three late games. Astro's leading seven to one
in Anaheim against the Angels bottom of the eighth at
San Diego, Padres shutting out the Diamondbacks five zip bottom
of the sixth, and bottom of the eighth at Oakland,
A's aer tied one to one with Toronto. The Mike
Tyson Jake Paul fight was rescheduled for mid November after
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Tyson's recent medical scare. He turns fifty eight this summer.
The bout will have eight two minute rounds. Scottie Scheffler
leads the Memorial by three strokes. The NCAA Baseball Tournament
Super Regional started today that included a Florida State win
of twenty four to four over Yukon, victories for Virginia
for number one Tennessee and for fourth rank North Carolina
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at home two homers. Bottom of the ninth Carolina beats
West Virginia eight to six. At the French Open, Carlos
Alcarez won his semifinal in five sets Saturday. The Stanley
Cup final start Sunday night. NBA Finals Game two is
at Boston. By the way, last night's NBA Finals opener
averaged only eleven million TV viewers going into last night.
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This year's playoff ratings in the NBA were down thirteen
percent by comparison the eleven million viewers last night. Yukon's
final four games this year each averaged fourteen million viewers,
and those college games were only on cable. In the
WNBA Caitlin Clark with thirty points. Indiana, which was two
to nine, got a victory at winless Washington eighty five
(31:59):
eighty five three Washington Mystics, oh and eleven now and
among the three late games, Seattle holding out at Las
Vegas fifty seven fifty five with under eight minutes to
go back to you.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Thanks so much, Steve, Ryan Hollins that last bit of
scoring update that Steve de Seger gave us the offensive
explosion Caitlin Clark eight of fifteen, seven to thirteen from
three point range. It's amazing what four and a half
days off and a bad opponent can do for you.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Hey, man, she she she's under the microscope.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Still had eight turnovers in the game.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
But yeah, hey she's a shooter. Shooter. Shoot. And you know,
the scrutiny round Clark and Reese has has heated up somehow.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Man, this is like good, it's good for the game maybe,
so you're all in with it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'm all in with it. Like I don't like some
of the rhetoric and where it's been reduced to because
we get into our you know, into our corners about
stuff that have nothing to do with basketball related to it.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Right, But it's a lot of that, right, nothing to
do with basketball.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It's kind of well but in terms of the sport
getting attention, right, and we highlight Asia Wilson and some
of these other players maybe a little more than we
would have in mainstream media, right, it's that I I
equated it a long time ago to the Hey, the
party's been brewing and people just showed up. Are you
mad at them that they as long as they don't
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come in empty handed, which they're not, right because they
moved this game from a four thousand seed arena to
and sold out over twenty thousand tickets for Caitlin Clark tonight.
As long as people bring their dollars or you know,
if you're hosting a party at your house a bottle
of wine or some kind of host gift, then everybody's
welcome or should be. But yeah, it's been a lot
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of the back and forth outside of the actual basketball
that's been concerning at times. But the fact that we're
paying attention to the league is at least a step
in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Do you feel like you had tuned out on the
w NBA or were you never really.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
It was always it? Well, we always had well, we
weren't all in right, you cover it some and I
saw a lot of the the back and forth in
the big Talker shows earlier this week, and you know
what could have been done or whatever, and it's you know,
supplied demand, and you know, you can't force product onto people. Right,
(34:28):
If suddenly the gate is there and people demand something,
you know what, you print more copies of it. You
make yourself more available. Right If you're a food truck
and you're only able to, you know, get a permit
for four hours a night, and there's always a line
out the you know, standing room going around the block,
eventually maybe you start looking at a second food truck
or a brick and mortar kind of place. Right for
(34:49):
the w WNBA, they've been around for twenty five years
and we paid attention, but hasn't gotten this the same thrust.
And yeah, some of that you owe to a white
fan base coming on board. I don't deny that. Cameron
Brinks talked about it extensively and others. But it's brought
eyeballs and it's brought sponsors and dollars to the league
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that hadn't been there before. And now it's trying to
parse through the noise and get back into the growth
of the league and hopefully what becomes sustained success.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
I think every league needs personalities because here's the deal,
and Mike, you can speak to its just as well
as I can. You got your hardcore fan, and as
an analyst, come on and we'll say, hey, man, they
ran a wide pin down.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
They chose to switch.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Then they rolled into the picker where we can we
can talk basketball all day and the x's and o's right,
and that fan wants that. Then you got a fan
who kind of paid attention to basketball, but they may
not be watching every game. They know the player, they're
kind of keeping up with it, but they're not into
the x's and oh. Then you got the fan that
the w n b A is drawing, and that fan
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is just looking for the drama.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
They're looking for the beef. They ain't seen.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
One game, okay, but that grows the sport and what
people don't realize. And and I'm not saying this is
Jordan and Bird. This is Magic and Bird. But forgive
me if I'm wrong. There were racial elements of that too.
Now that I don't think that the beef was necessarily there,
but those guys did not like each other. It was
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it was the thing, and the fans kind of made
it what it.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Was in the City of Boston. Reputation and you get
the you know whatever, you describe adjectives to the city
of l A and it all, it all falls in.
Will continue this talk as well as you brought attention
to a tweet about something Lebron James did that we
(36:56):
have to discuss. Yes, he's back in the news. He's
Ryan Hollins, I'm Mike Harmon. We're coming here from the
Tyraq dot Com. Fox Sports Radios. Stay tuned more NBA,
more on this WNBA growth and what's fueling it.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
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Speaker 3 (37:18):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Tonight, Ryan Hollins in
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the Ryan Hollins find me over at Swallowen Dome. We've
got Mary our technical producer. Tonight, Shaye in for Frostburg
as our executive producer, and of course Steve disager at
the news desk. Appreciate you giving us a few minutes
(37:39):
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let's be careful out there and look after each other.
And there's my moment from the sermon. Right, we're talking
about the WNBA and where we're at, and you know,
equate back a little bit to magic and burn. As
you astutely pointed out, you know, you get a little
bit into the racial divide there. And certainly we've seen
many folks try to expand their platforms on the backs
(38:26):
of Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark and whoever else gets injected,
Kennedy Carter, whomever gets injected into the mix of this
to where it's no longer about basketball. We even had
some representative an elected official trying to get legislation going
about protecting Caitlin Clark. You had an editorial board for
(38:47):
a Chicago newspaper. They printed an editorial saying that, hey,
if this wasn't on a basketball court, it would have
been a salt talking about the Kennedy Carter play. Oh gosh,
you know what I mean, Like, that's where we're at.
The rhetoric just and that's what I mean, like on
the court, and Caitlin Clark's, at least to my thinking,
other than saying, hey, I feel like I'm getting beat up, right,
(39:11):
I'm getting hammered. Which yeah, it's a physical style of play,
and that's certainly you got to get used to it.
But she hasn't, to my knowledge, complaint.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Now.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Maybe her coaches are going to the league office like
Carlisle and so many others did during the playoffs, of hey,
here's all the egregious non calls or problems against our team.
But you know, the basketball has been more entertaining we've
watched the last couple of years, and certainly when we're
in studio if there's a game on, you know what, Ryan,
We've got so many monitors in here, it's like yeah,
(39:42):
flip that on, let's watch it. But now it takes
on a little more gravitas. You start talking about television
rights deals, big time shoe deals, and you know, dollars
and eyeballs are following.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Yeah it well for one, for Caitlin Clark. I mean
a lot of people are you know, you knock a
guy down to the floor, it is what it is.
But when when it you know, lady gets knocked down
and it's it's it's it's different.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
It's just her. It feels different. But our leaders are tough.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Man, million play w NBA players are tough, they're they're rugged,
they know what's themselves. Yes, So I think some of
that gets overdrawn and that's where the emotions are and
you know, kind of a this is what a lady
is supposed to look like or what she's supposed to be.
And I think that there's a mix of people that
(40:35):
are saying, man, this is basketball, and then you get
the new eyeballs that we just talked about and they're saying, okay,
you know, we we get it.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
You know this is this is this is okay.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
And I think the w n B A and it's
going to be a part of the popularity. But right
now it's huge, and it's pretty much all of the controversy.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
That's it. And you know controversy. What do they always say,
if it bleeds, it leads the old newspaper rule, and
well sometimes from the news desk, he's Ryan Hollins on
my car, but we'll get back to that. Lebron James
Twitter exercise and Jason Tatum baring his soul next on
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Greetings, Welcome in our two of the program. Here on
a beautiful Friday night Byke Carbon alongside Ryan Hollins, with
you Jason Smith taking the night off, exhaling as we
get ready for Game two of the NBA Finals on Sunday,
Game one Stanley Cup Final. Remember leave off the s
for savings. This is tomorrow night. Florida and Edmonton get
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after it. And as you heard in Steve de Seger's update,
or maybe you didn't, White Sox actually won a game,
Ryan Hollins fourteen game losing streak goes to the wayside,
and for once I'm on the right side of the street.
I don't know what to do with myself. I'm celebrating.
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Yesterday you had the guy teasing the postgame show. It's like,
I guarantee you it's gonna be more entertaining than any
of the stuff you've been watching. He didn't quite say it,
he got close, but one of those live mic moments
that we'll remember forever, like we have so many here
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(01:55):
victory on the home court the Boston Celtics is you
heard Steve Desager and the up last hour give us
the at home, thirty seven and four in the playoffs,
the last four season that'll take it to nineteen and
fifteen at home. A lot of opportunity and one of
the big key components that we talked about it a
(02:15):
little bit last hour. As we finally got you up
in the gremlins went away for a minute, Ryan Hollins is,
I wanted to circle back to the Chris stops porzingis
part of the equation. The ramping him back up and
making the decision of when it was time to unleash
the unicorn. Por Zingis talked about coming off the bench.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
From day one.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I came here and I said, like, I'll do whatever
it takes to help the team win, right, And I
think it was this situation, you know, it made sense
and I didn't care. I didn't care. I knew I
could prepare to come off the bench, which is something
different from me. And that's what I did and stepped
into that role and embraced it and had a good game.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
You got the luxury as you spoke of earlier Missoula,
in terms of how many starters that you have right,
the capital s, lowercase s, however you want to do it.
The fact that you've got the depth to deploy and
a guy that can come off the bench that at
his best is a twenty a game scorer and a
(03:21):
rim protector, shot alterer. All of that, and I mentioned
on the show last night, Ryan, everything that was in
the scouting report of Christaps Porzingis coming back in when
he came into the league and started to develop in
New York. You saw every bit of it at its
best yesterday.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
No, he was special and again, you know, protecting the
rim and then offensively, you know, taking advantage of the mismatches.
And you know that kind of had been the kind
of knock on Perzingas that you could have put. You
put a small guy on him. He didn't go and
take advantage, and that's what he did. You know, he
looked fresh, he looked rested, and you know, I think
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we're all questioning, you know, hey, how bad is that injury?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
How bad is he hurt?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
And he was absolutely spectacular. But he really ruined the
Mavericks game plan where they don't like to switch, they
like to stay home with their bigs.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And I thought even bigger.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
You saw more of Maxi Kleeber instead of Lively and
Gaffer than you wanted to. And that's where Porzingis is
a problem because when you put Lively on him, he
ends up having to pull Lively away from the basket,
and that's something you don't.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Want to do.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Then you're going, Okay, do I put him on Derek White?
You know, I can't put him on Tatum or Brown
and that becomes a problem. But for Dallas, what makes
them special is their ability to go out and play
big and kind of protect the paint.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So you know, porzingis really ruins this series right here.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, lively and absolute non factor yesterday, eighteen minutes played,
he had two points, five fouls, and he was a
minus fifteen. Did add five rebounds an assistant of steal.
But yeah, just trying to figure out that piece of
the chess match. But it all comes back, you know,
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from the Dallas side on the offensive end, Ryan to
what happened with the flow right, nine block shots for
Boston and Dallas had nine assists, ball stopped and Kyrie
irving time and again got into a cluttered lane and
(05:30):
had to make that last second decision and instead of
finding an open shooter or a cutter, it was resetting
the offense back outside the three point arc with eight
seconds left on the shot clock and the ball out
of his hands.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yeah yeah, And you know, again, if you're the Mavericks,
they're at a point right now where uh, I think
it's still house money. I think they're gonna have to adjust.
I didn't think their respect was really shown to poor
zingis I think what's scary is I think that I
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think there's adjustments that Boston can still play because of
their depth. But I think for Boston, they got away
from defending, they got away from moving the basketball, and
those key components really hurt them. And it was like
kind of like Luca shoot over these you know, six
hands in.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
The right and that was the game plan.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
No, and that was the thing. It just it got
bogged down early. Like they didn't shoot particularly well from
the three point arc, just seven of twenty seven by
way of contrast, Boston sixteen of forty two for a
good for thirty eight percent. Right, Some of the other
statistical categories kind of a wash along the way, but
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twenty three assists for Boston getting out on breaks, moving
the basketball, finding the open shooter, including Porzingis several times.
Versus Dallas, everything a bit rushed and never really finding
that space and continuity, and Kyrie Irving was left to
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his eleven straight loss against his former squad. You believe
in curses.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I don't believe in curses, but I think that sometimes
things are just coincidental.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
They they just had to just stack up a bit
because I just remember him walking around with the sage brush.
I joked about it a little bit before we were
able to.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Get at with you.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Remember he was doing that for a while, he might
need a couple of those.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Well, I know, emotionally, you can want something so bad
that like you take yourself out of the game. Sure,
And I remember Lebron's first game in Cleveland. All the
fans were like, if you don't win one game, just
win this one game right here, win this one game,
and like, you know, it became such a thing that
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when we came out, we realized the game wasn't about us.
We want to win for the fans. It was kind
of like the only big, major thing we had going
on that season. But everybody played terrible because you wanted
to play well.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
You knew the.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
National attention was there, you know, T and T was
in the house and everything was going on. But at
the end of the day we laid an egg because
there was so much emotion there. For me, playing against
a former team, you know, was always a thing. And
then the second game is when i'd ball or play well.
But it's natural that you know, just there's there's so
much emotion, and keep in mind, you know, this is
(08:30):
the most healthiest and you know, best efforts that we've
seen from Kyrie in a long time.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So I think at the end of the day, he's
going to play better.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
And I said this earlier this week when asked, I
think it's going to be like Game.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Three before we see I replay.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Well, I still think he's going to have some cop
webs that dust off.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
A little bit of you know, getting back into the mix.
He had this quote after the game, kind of talking
about shaking off in game one and what he needs
to do.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
When you lose a game like this, especially in finals
where everyone's watching, it's gonna hit you a little bit.
But again, like I said, now is the time to
not get on social media and not pay attention to
what you guys are saying. No disrespect, but we got
to go out there and just focus on what we
can control. And I just know how the next two
days are gonna go. Man, it's gonna be very loud.
It's gonna be very chaotic at times. People are gonna
(09:18):
have words to say about how we can be better
or how we're gonna win or lose a series. But again,
it's about us focusing on what we can control in
that locker room.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Really, it just shows the level of presence, maturity, recognition
of the moment and now it becomes the all right,
you paid it lip service? Can you actually do it
for the two days and not let it get under
your skin? Right to your point, you know, it is
the most basketball he's played in a long time, right
injury shortened seasons and whatever else transpiring in the background
(09:52):
that you look at the elevated stakes here and this
goes for both sides. We've got a great quote from
Jason Tatum. We'll hear uh coming up at the top
of next hour, you know, kind of how he's perceiving
things for this series. But for Kyrie Irving, you know,
there's a lot of weight and don't forget Lebron, as
we fully expected he would injected himself into the conversation
(10:16):
when he you know, I'm proud of him and all
of that stuff, you know, and look, you know, happy
for him and all that, but basically saying, oh, he
gets a shot to do it because remember he did
it with me.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, no, And.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That's that shadow of Lebron had to had to you know,
insert itself here.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well that that.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Kind of wasn't fair, you know, the Lebron thing, because
he is podcasting. He was asked, I think you know,
I didn't think I didn't think he was inserting himself
too much in his situation.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
He was like, what else does he do? I think
he's got to be happy for it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
For him, I like the the happy for him. The
when he's say, proud of the contemporary, it always kind
of hits me a little different really, like I didn't
expect that he'd be able to do that, So I'm
proud of him. He's really grown up. That's how I
hear it. Shae and I actually were having this conversation
before the show that am I wrong? Shae like, like,
(11:16):
that's how I interpret it. I think I was more
eloquent perhaps before the show than I am now in
terms of laying this out. But just you know, when
you have that contemporary, it's usually like I'm happy for you, right,
you get a promotion, you get a nice mention somewhere
or whatever. But you know, to have someone come back
over I'm proud of you is kind of like they
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see themselves a little bit higher than you and it's like, hey,
look at you.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
Yeah, I definitely do agree with you in that sense.
And I'm a Lebron fan, like I'm a Laker fan.
Lebron's king like, don't get me wrong, but when I
saw that on Twitter or X, I was like, Okay,
what's why are you making this about you right now?
Almost like I don't I love him, I love his tweets,
I love his Instagram posts, but that one thing really
did feel like with good job, leb Bro, Like that's
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literally what I thought of it as.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
But I mean, maybe were is it there though?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
That Kyrie is little brother to Lebron and and those
guys have hit it off so much so that you know,
Kyrie is very outamant. Hey I want to go to
la I want to be a Laker. Hey Lebron, you know,
come to Dallas or maybe let's figure something out. Let's
let's work out a trade, like like there was a
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lot there, like they had definitely you know, that created
a rapport. So I think the relationship is intact to
say it, you know, I don't. I don't think if
the relationship wasn't there, I'd say maybe a little unhanded, underhanded.
But I feel like those two talk again, or at
least you know, they're cordial, they're friendly, they're texting.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Sure, right, yeah again the happy for you said I'm
full on in the other one is just I don't know.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
It hits the ear wrong when when you put when
you put it that way now, like the little Brother
seems a little bit less of like ah, because technically, yeah,
I mean when they were at Cleveland, he almost was
his little brother, you know what I mean? Like I technically,
I definitely do see that, and I don't think.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Oh, way to backtrack? Do we get a truck backing up?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Sound?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
God, he changed my mind.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Just like that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It took you three lines, Hollins, I didn't you might
you should go run for a sentence. Good God, man,
I didn't think about the past at all.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
But you're right there, You guys a little bit of
both in that sense.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
But no, Mike Can says he's proud of me, like
you know, like we text, we talk like yeah, it
would be offitted.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, No, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
It's just one of those things.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
If I was in the NBA finals of radio, right,
I'd be really happy for you.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
We don't be proud.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'm proud that my God brought it home. And I'll
say I remember him when and he buys past me,
and then I'll be old and bitter. Like radio hosts
and TV host get how about that? Oh gosh and
basketball players.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Now, if you're like, wow, I never thought Ryan would
get to this point, it is.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, but that's what But that's my point. That's kind
of how I hear it from Lebron is that it's
a little bit of Oh, you're really matured. Didn't see
that happening. Good for him, I'm proud of him. That's
kind of how I heard that.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
No.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Now, in all reality, that's how it was looking, So
you know there's some truth there. But if you're on
a texting basis, like, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I think he's genuinely happy.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, No, and that's good and he's at a good place.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
We talked about it a lot on our Sunday show.
You can find the podcast up Fox Sports Weekends, Fox
Sports Sunday, Hollins and Harmon a lot of that discussion. Here,
we'll put a pin in this for now because we've
got our guy Jason Cole coming up next talking to
all things in the off season of the NFL, including
one of the great stories of wait, you're going to Brazil,
but they tell you not to wear a color? No,
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Speaker 3 (16:17):
We remember Prince would have been his sixty sixth birthday,
So I watched the bat Dance video about five times today,
tried to emulate that because I see the future and
it will be when he yelled, get the funk, funk,
get the horse going, Hey, yeah, get it up. Let's go,
(16:40):
Ryan Hollins, Mike Harmon with you here, Jason Smith off
tonight as we come to you live from the tire
rack dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios. Now we're gonna
head out to the hotline here, Ryan Hollins, bring it
a long time friend of the show's our guy, Jason Cole,
Jay Cole, Happy, OTAs, how are you?
Speaker 10 (16:59):
I'm grooving right now. I'm feeling good. Right now, you
get Prince going, I'll let you just just stop. What
the heck is that?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well, because I wanted more?
Speaker 10 (17:08):
All right, what are we going? Man?
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Like?
Speaker 10 (17:13):
We got finally we have something entertaining to listen to
on the show.
Speaker 11 (17:18):
So, oh my god, Jess, he will do Randy Savage
like straight off the top room.
Speaker 10 (17:29):
Well, let me say this. I was thinking about this
before as I was on hold. I've done so many
appearances do here like I'm sort of like if it
was cars. I'm sorry dating myself on this one, of course,
which I offered you. Am I like as a regular guest?
Am I sort of like Burt Reynolds. Am I like
(17:50):
Don Rickles? Or am I Don Delauise? Which which one
of those Rickles?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, because you got the sarc asm that comes through
and you'll you'll take their shot at Smith and then
smile at them while you do it.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
So yeah, yeah, and seeing as how Mets are doing
so well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We exported that to London by the way this weekend.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
Yeah, that should be quite a show, just like MLB,
let's put our best out there.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah you go, kind of like when we always send
the Jaguars off to London as well.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
Well, I gotta gotta hide them somewhere, so one less
game for the for the locals to see. Trevor Lawrence
lives and underperformed. So there you go.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well there's a good place to start, uh. Seeing as
the rest of that draft class has been shuffled into
new environments, what do we expect from from Trevor Lawrence
this year?
Speaker 10 (18:56):
So? I think I told the story before, but but
I think it is kind of representative of the kind
of quarterback he is, which is you supremely talented. Like,
don't get me wrong, I think he can do anything
on the field, but there was there were teams that
interviewed him at the combine pre draft basically right combine
(19:19):
other pre draft moments, and they would ask him, explain
to me what happened on display right, And when you
ask Peyton Manning to do that, or Tom Brady or
you know, a lot of the greats I'm not saying
every single one they will, but a lot of them
they will tell you, oh, yeah, this happened to happen.
(19:40):
And if you watch, like the defensive end dropped, they
brought a linebacker, safety, showed showed coverage and then came
like you know, like they can diagnose the play and
they remember stuff, and Trevor Lawrence would just sit there
and I don't remember. You know, well, I don't know.
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I don't remember. And it is again, that's not like
to say that he can never be a great quarterback,
but there's like a missing ingredient that between what the
truly greats are and the memory that they have and
the display you know, the memory that they call upon,
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so that when they're ready for the next play, can
they access it right away? And can they say, Okay,
this team did this and this and this, I'm going
to expect this and I won't be fooled, and therefore
the game slows down for them. With Trevor Lawrence, you're like,
he still kind of plays not like a rookie, because
that was a wasted year under urban Meyer and that
(20:48):
was that was that was tragic for Trevor Lawrence, but
like just not picking things up as fast as he
should and things don't click as quickly as they should.
They don't have to pay them because they're pot committed
as the poker term goes, so they're gonna pay him
forty five to fifty million dollars a year, whatever the
going rate is. But I'm getting further and further away,
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and this is going to be a critical year from
believing like this is a guy who's going to take
you to multiple Super Bowls and puts you right there
with Patrick Mahomes right and right there with Josh Allen
or right there with any of the other great quarterbacks.
I think he's sort of fifth or six, and he's
sort of like between the really really good ones. And
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like a Kirk.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Cousin, what's Dala is going to do? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 6 (21:41):
What are they gonna do? And what should they do?
Are those two things gonna match?
Speaker 10 (21:47):
I think I think they like they should go all
in Andrey Lance just like push right in and wow
gray Jack, right now we can let's just make it happen.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Right, Hollin's you got your sarcasm bucket there.
Speaker 10 (22:02):
Just a little bit, yes, a little bit more. It's
more like it's more like a sixty gallon trash can
not really a bucket. Look, they're they're stuck with what
they're you know, they're gonna pay Dak He's not going anywhere?
What did they have.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
To pay him?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Like? Like what do you have to pay him?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Like?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Should he be team from? Like where is he gonna go?
Speaker 10 (22:27):
Go to Kirk? Take Kirk Cousins contract and add another
three million onto it? Right right? That's just what it's.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Gonna be, seems to be the going rate, and the
price of poker continues to rise.
Speaker 10 (22:40):
Remind me, I'm not recalling what what was Cousin's deal?
Was it forty five a year or was it a year?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Well, let me uh, let me pull that up as
we sit. Yeah, four years one eighty, No, four years
one eighty with one hundred million guaranteed. I got fat fingers,
but I got there fast.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Yeah, they're forty five million, so he's gonna go north
of fifty million a year. It's just it's just the price.
And meanwhile, brock Perty sitting here going go go go, go, go,
go go, right, because it just drives his number up,
Like they're again, they're stuck. They're gonna have to pay
(23:21):
CD lamb, They're gonna pay Parsons. That's just how they
do it. The only problem that they have is the
cowboys act as if we're always going to get a
bargain if we keep waiting, and they wait and they
wait and they wait, and they're never proactive. So they're
always paying the premium price on these guys instead of
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getting out in front of it. And so the longer
you wait for star players, the more expensive it gets.
Like like right now, San Francisco is trying to get
Brandon and I are done, and you know they're they're
trying to get him done for like twenty six or
twenty seven million dollars a year, and it's like probably
not going to happen, you know, like that's just that's
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not really likely, you know. I mean, he's gonna wait
it because he's gonna say I want twenty eight or
twenty nine because I'm better than Jalen Waddle, and he
has a good argument that he is. I just would
say that, I would say to him, stay in San
Francisco because that's the best place for you to be
because the quarterback trusts you and that's how to work
(24:26):
with you, and he's going to hold you accountable, so
you're going to get If you stay in San Francisco,
you're probably gonna get the best out of yourself and
maximize your career. And that means that if you get
to a third contract or even better.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Off organizational stability. McCaffrey re upped, et cetera. He's Jason
cole with US Pro Football Hall of Fame voter, author
of eight books. Go to Amazon. He's got The Your Kids.
What was the exact title of the The Your Kids?
Speaker 10 (24:53):
Your Kids? Not that great?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
That's it? That is it is the graduation season. That's
a that's a great one to give to all your
friends who were posting all their pictures of their kids.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
I will do signs copies for anybody who wants to
give to their kids as they get their diploma. I
did that, especially especially at Stanford graduation this Sunday where
one of my friends is his daughter is graduating and
then she's like she's graduating and then she's immediately going
to Teris that night. Oh, Like what what kind of
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deal was that? Like that didn't happen? Like I got
to go to like I think Redwood City I graduated.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
There were a couple of decent restaurants in Redwood City,
as I recall living.
Speaker 10 (25:38):
Up there, Ferry Harry's hop Row there you go now gone? Yeah, yeah, great,
great buffet, great buffet and.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Harry's all those years ago. Hey, what does it mean
when Jalen Hurt says ninety five percent of the offense
is new? How inspired should I be by that?
Speaker 10 (25:55):
I I don't know what that means? Like a thing
to me? Why are you completely changing ninety five percent
of your offense when two years ago it was pretty good?
Like you know, like why aren't you working to get
back to the parts that worked really well instead of like, oh,
(26:15):
we're going to do some new fangle thing. Like I
just I don't quite get that. Now that said, Jalen
Hurts does need to progress in his game. You know,
there are things that he doesn't do very well. He
holds the ball a little bit too long, all that
kind of stuff. But there's a there's a player who
can get you to a championship game, to a super Bowl.
(26:38):
He's done that, especially in a very weak NFC. But
I don't quite understand like we're reinventing the whole offense
for right now with Jalen Hurts. So I take that
as one of those lines like I'm in the best
shape of my life, which is to be like, you know, okay,
(26:58):
I did a few less chocolate shake at McDonald's this offseason,
right like if you're like Rowdy Feles in baseball, but
you canal that.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, but you can buy one and get one off
the app for an extra twenty nine cents. J Cole,
I mean, I.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
Understand that it's a great deal and that works for me,
But I'm not a professional athlete. I may look like
Dan vogel Bach, which reminds me of a great story
from what is the Lefty for?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Was it not?
Speaker 10 (27:34):
It wasn't losing for the for the Philly John. Yeah,
John Cruck, who you know, was at a restaurant one
time and was eating like crazy and some lady said,
you know, you're an athlete, you should be eating bettering.
He goes, lady, I am an athlete. I'm a ballplayer.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
One of the great stories of yesteryear. As we go,
as you get out and about on your Friday night,
j Cole, thanks for stopping down with us tonight.
Speaker 10 (28:02):
It's always a pleasure. So I will I will go
on and don't be like Dom Delawise where you put
eggs in my pants or something like that.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
There you go, More Rickles, more Rickles appearances in his
future at Jason Gole sixty two. Send him off, my guy,
we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Brother damn appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
He never you never know what you're gonna get from
j Cole, Ryan Hollins, And usually there's a lot more
antagonism of my my normal co host Jason Smith out
here tonight. Hey, you know the acid tongue Jason Gold
that sometimes fires off. Uh, And certainly we would have
(28:41):
had more butt fumble references. But now it's time to
turn it over. Steve Desager gets to do this update
and maybe he'll include my score. Yes, And if not,
that's okay, because I'll know for once my team won
a damn game. Hi, Steve de Sager.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Yes, And Jason Smith's team did not play at all tonight.
By the way, Jason Smith in the best shape of
his life.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
That's what he tells you.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
The White Sox ended a fourteen game losing streak and
I beating Boston seven to two. White Sox hit three
solo homers. Winning pitcher Garrett Crochet six innings, one earned run,
allowed ten strikeouts. And then there was the game at
Kansas City. The Royals win ten to nine over Seattle.
According to the great researcher Sarah Langs, in the last
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forty years of Major League Baseball, only two teams have
done what Casey did in this comeback tonight, to give
up seven runs at least in the first inning while
scoring none in the first and still come back and
win the game. Mariners were up seven to nothing top
of the first, up eight to nothing in the fourth.
Casey wins it with three runs, bottom of the ninth,
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ten to nine. The final Bobby Witt Junior with the
tying RBI triple. He had three more hits. He's batting
three twenty three. The Dodgers at Yankee Stadium were scoreless
through ten LA wins it in eleven innings, two to
one to run double top of the eleventh from Tascar Hernandez.
Bottom of the eleventh Aaron Judge with an RBI single
to get close. Gencarlos Stanton, La Native went zero for
(30:09):
five with three strikeouts. Cincinnati won at six straight game
three two over the Cubs, wins for San Francisco and Miami,
wins for Baltimore and Washington. Saint Louis b Colorado eight
five with three runs in the bottom of the eighth,
another save for the Cards closer Ryan Helsley his twenty
first of the season. Pittsburgh three nothing over Minnesota. Twins
have lost four straight and Milwaukee had lost three in
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a row, but got a ten nothing victory at Detroit.
There are three late games. Astro's leading seven to one
in Anaheim against the Angels bottom of the eighth at
San Diego, Padres shutting out the Diamondbacks five zip bottom
of the sixth, and bottom of the eighth at Oakland,
A's aer tied one to one with Toronto. The Mike
Tyson Jake Paul fight was rescheduled for mid November after
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Tyson's recent medical scare. He turns fifty eight this summer.
The bout will have eight two minute rounds. Scottie Scheffler
leads the Memorial by three strokes. The NCAA Baseball Tournament
Super Regional started today that included a Florida State win
of twenty four to four over Yukon, victories for Virginia
for number one Tennessee and for fourth rank North Carolina
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at home two homers. Bottom of the ninth Carolina beats
West Virginia eight to six. At the French Open, Carlos
Alcarez won his semifinal in five sets Saturday. The Stanley
Cup final start Sunday night. NBA Finals Game two is
at Boston. By the way, last night's NBA Finals opener
averaged only eleven million TV viewers going into last night.
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This year's playoff ratings in the NBA were down thirteen
percent by comparison the eleven million viewers last night. Yukon's
final four games this year each averaged fourteen million viewers,
and those college games were only on cable. In the
WNBA Caitlin Clark with thirty points. Indiana, which was two
to nine, got a victory at winless Washington eighty five
(31:59):
eighty five three Washington Mystics, oh and eleven now and
among the three late games, Seattle holding out at Las
Vegas fifty seven fifty five with under eight minutes to
go back to you.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Thanks so much, Steve, Ryan Hollins that last bit of
scoring update that Steve de Seger gave us the offensive
explosion Caitlin Clark eight of fifteen, seven to thirteen from
three point range. It's amazing what four and a half
days off and a bad opponent can do for you.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Hey, man, she she she's under the microscope.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Still had eight turnovers in the game.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
But yeah, hey she's a shooter. Shooter. Shoot. And you know,
the scrutiny round Clark and Reese has has heated up somehow.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Man, this is like good, it's good for the game maybe,
so you're all in with it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'm all in with it. Like I don't like some
of the rhetoric and where it's been reduced to because
we get into our you know, into our corners about
stuff that have nothing to do with basketball related to it.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Right, But it's a lot of that, right, nothing to
do with basketball.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It's kind of well but in terms of the sport
getting attention, right, and we highlight Asia Wilson and some
of these other players maybe a little more than we
would have in mainstream media, right, it's that I I
equated it a long time ago to the Hey, the
party's been brewing and people just showed up. Are you
mad at them that they as long as they don't
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come in empty handed, which they're not, right because they
moved this game from a four thousand seed arena to
and sold out over twenty thousand tickets for Caitlin Clark tonight.
As long as people bring their dollars or you know,
if you're hosting a party at your house a bottle
of wine or some kind of host gift, then everybody's
welcome or should be. But yeah, it's been a lot
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of the back and forth outside of the actual basketball
that's been concerning at times. But the fact that we're
paying attention to the league is at least a step
in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Do you feel like you had tuned out on the
w NBA or were you never really.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
It was always it? Well, we always had well, we
weren't all in right, you cover it some and I
saw a lot of the the back and forth in
the big Talker shows earlier this week, and you know
what could have been done or whatever, and it's you know,
supplied demand, and you know, you can't force product onto people. Right,
(34:28):
If suddenly the gate is there and people demand something,
you know what, you print more copies of it. You
make yourself more available. Right If you're a food truck
and you're only able to, you know, get a permit
for four hours a night, and there's always a line
out the you know, standing room going around the block,
eventually maybe you start looking at a second food truck
or a brick and mortar kind of place. Right for
(34:49):
the w WNBA, they've been around for twenty five years
and we paid attention, but hasn't gotten this the same thrust.
And yeah, some of that you owe to a white
fan base coming on board. I don't deny that. Cameron
Brinks talked about it extensively and others. But it's brought
eyeballs and it's brought sponsors and dollars to the league
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that hadn't been there before. And now it's trying to
parse through the noise and get back into the growth
of the league and hopefully what becomes sustained success.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
I think every league needs personalities because here's the deal,
and Mike, you can speak to its just as well
as I can. You got your hardcore fan, and as
an analyst, come on and we'll say, hey, man, they
ran a wide pin down.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
They chose to switch.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Then they rolled into the picker where we can we
can talk basketball all day and the x's and o's right,
and that fan wants that. Then you got a fan
who kind of paid attention to basketball, but they may
not be watching every game. They know the player, they're
kind of keeping up with it, but they're not into
the x's and oh. Then you got the fan that
the w n b A is drawing, and that fan
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is just looking for the drama.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
They're looking for the beef. They ain't seen.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
One game, okay, but that grows the sport and what
people don't realize. And and I'm not saying this is
Jordan and Bird. This is Magic and Bird. But forgive
me if I'm wrong. There were racial elements of that too.
Now that I don't think that the beef was necessarily there,
but those guys did not like each other. It was
(36:33):
it was the thing, and the fans kind of made
it what it.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Was in the City of Boston. Reputation and you get
the you know whatever, you describe adjectives to the city
of l A and it all, it all falls in.
Will continue this talk as well as you brought attention
to a tweet about something Lebron James did that we
(36:56):
have to discuss. Yes, he's back in the news. He's
Ryan Hollins, I'm Mike Harmon. We're coming here from the
Tyraq dot Com. Fox Sports Radios. Stay tuned more NBA,
more on this WNBA growth and what's fueling it.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
On Fox. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Tonight, Ryan Hollins in
his stead. Find him over in the Twitter verse at
the Ryan Hollins find me over at Swallowen Dome. We've
got Mary our technical producer. Tonight, Shaye in for Frostburg
as our executive producer, and of course Steve disager at
the news desk. Appreciate you giving us a few minutes
(37:39):
of your time wherever you are across the globe. Yeah,
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Thanks to the program directors and all of you for
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get where you're going safely, and be mindful of those
around you. That is all we ask because I watched
way too much many horror stories on local news. So
(38:02):
let's be careful out there and look after each other.
And there's my moment from the sermon. Right, we're talking
about the WNBA and where we're at, and you know,
equate back a little bit to magic and burn. As
you astutely pointed out, you know, you get a little
bit into the racial divide there. And certainly we've seen
many folks try to expand their platforms on the backs
(38:26):
of Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark and whoever else gets injected,
Kennedy Carter, whomever gets injected into the mix of this
to where it's no longer about basketball. We even had
some representative an elected official trying to get legislation going
about protecting Caitlin Clark. You had an editorial board for
(38:47):
a Chicago newspaper. They printed an editorial saying that, hey,
if this wasn't on a basketball court, it would have
been a salt talking about the Kennedy Carter play. Oh gosh,
you know what I mean, Like, that's where we're at.
The rhetoric just and that's what I mean, like on
the court, and Caitlin Clark's, at least to my thinking,
other than saying, hey, I feel like I'm getting beat up, right,
(39:11):
I'm getting hammered. Which yeah, it's a physical style of play,
and that's certainly you got to get used to it.
But she hasn't, to my knowledge, complaint.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Now.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Maybe her coaches are going to the league office like
Carlisle and so many others did during the playoffs, of hey,
here's all the egregious non calls or problems against our team.
But you know, the basketball has been more entertaining we've
watched the last couple of years, and certainly when we're
in studio if there's a game on, you know what, Ryan,
We've got so many monitors in here, it's like yeah,
(39:42):
flip that on, let's watch it. But now it takes
on a little more gravitas. You start talking about television
rights deals, big time shoe deals, and you know, dollars
and eyeballs are following.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Yeah it well for one, for Caitlin Clark. I mean
a lot of people are you know, you knock a
guy down to the floor, it is what it is.
But when when it you know, lady gets knocked down
and it's it's it's it's different.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
It's just her. It feels different. But our leaders are tough.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Man, million play w NBA players are tough, they're they're rugged,
they know what's themselves. Yes, So I think some of
that gets overdrawn and that's where the emotions are and
you know, kind of a this is what a lady
is supposed to look like or what she's supposed to be.
And I think that there's a mix of people that
(40:35):
are saying, man, this is basketball, and then you get
the new eyeballs that we just talked about and they're saying, okay,
you know, we we get it.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
You know this is this is this is okay.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
And I think the w n B A and it's
going to be a part of the popularity. But right
now it's huge, and it's pretty much all of the controversy.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
That's it. And you know controversy. What do they always say,
if it bleeds, it leads the old newspaper rule, and
well sometimes from the news desk, he's Ryan Hollins on
my car, but we'll get back to that. Lebron James
Twitter exercise and Jason Tatum baring his soul next on
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