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June 13, 2024 41 mins

Jason and Mike give you their Finals MVP favorites. Luka Doncic wasn’t happy with tonight’s officiating in his postgame press conference. And Brian Windhorst goes scorched earth on Luka Doncic!

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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The Celtics beat the Mavericks one oh six ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
We'll have more on Luca coming up in about fifteen minutes, because,
oh boy, has the legacy of Luca change a lot
in the last couple of hours, basically since just inside
the four.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Minute mark of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
But the only question really it's kind of funny because
we talked with Rick Buker about This is like the
only question really left right now at the NBA Finals
and the Celtics are up three to nine, is who's
going to be the MV Yeah, and not that it's
wide open because I think we're down to what we're
down to three people now, but it could be like

(01:29):
I'll say this, I think we have it narrowed down
and someone can step forward and win it with a
big Game four or a big clinching game. Let's say
the Mavericks win Game four, the Celtics home and win
Game five, Like someone can win it there, because right
now I would have to say, and you know how
much I want to continue to pump, Hey, Drew Holliday
is the NBA fovea Right, Hey, I told you he

(01:49):
was my pick sixty six to one. You could have
got him at maybe as much as one hundred to one,
and I tell hey, he's the one. Because the Jason
Tatum hate is going to be a still immense he
Jalen Brown will probably split some votes, but being able
to shut down Kyrie Irving, which is what Drew Holliday
is going to do, will be a big through line
for the Finals. And all of it's out there it's

(02:10):
all on Twitter. I said, it's there, and he has
the big Game two offensively leading the team in scoring. Hey,
I said, okay, not that I knew he's gonna have
a big Game two, but I said, being able to
shut down Kyrie Irving and what he can do offensively,
you're gonna see him win the NBA Finals MVP, and
certainly the big offensive performance in Game two shot him

(02:30):
to the front. Now what we're looking at right now
is as good as Porzingis was in game one. Well,
he was hurt in Game two and he missed game three. Okay,
So even if he comes back and has a big
Game four, okay, the series is already decided. So you're
looking at a combo of Tatum, Brown and Drew Holliday.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Can I give you the updated odds go helping form
where you're gonna okay? Good good Jalen Brown currently the
favorite minus two eighty Well, gouy okay Brown? Min This
is from DraftKings after this game tonight, Jason Tatum plus
two fifty Okay, the unlikelihood, But all right, we got

(03:09):
Donches at twenty five to one, okay, Irving at eighty
to one. My holiday at eighty to one. Where's the
raft called the foul? And here's ah. That was Jerry
Jones who called the foul. He was, he's very good.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
But look Holiday, if he has another b if he
has a big game four and he shuts down Kyrie,
I'm telling you, man, I mean I would have cashed
out after game two if I had Holiday as my MVP,
I'd have gone. I said, it went down to seven
and a half, I could bankrupt you, man, cat seven
fifty Jason, you have to bet to cash out. I'm saying,
if I bet, if you never people did bet. Hey,

(03:45):
I like being right on the radio. That's my favorite thing, man,
I was, that's that's my thing, that's radio. I could
I got. I told Pam, I said, hey, if I
had taken Zoe's college fund and betted on the NBA
Finals MVP, you know we'd be right now. And she
said Zoe's college fund, and I said, let's go have lunch,
let's go.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
But I mean, look, clearly we have a great following
and a lot of important listeners. But so I mean
it's good. People may have listened to you and maybe
they made some money. Hey, Holliday, I can't believe he's
that low. But Holiday could have that bit.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
But if I'm honest, and I'm being honest, Jalen Brown
is the favorite mainly because he's just been the most
consistent player when you combine stats and being a favorite
already going in right, because Tatum and Brown would be

(04:41):
the favorites, and then it would be Kyrie and Luca. Right,
I say, you scratch Kyrie and Luca, so Tatum and Brown.
Tatum has had a very up and down series. He
hasn't shot very well. Tonight was a big game. He
had a big game dishing the ball in Game two,
you know, set up double digits and assists. But Brown's
just been the most consistent guy. He had a big
shot to night with a minute to go in the
fourth quarter, hit the big twenty foot fade away that

(05:03):
put the Celtics up by four. But overall the first
three games, you can't really say he's had a bad
game or he's had a game where it was tough
to look at him, like tonight, Holliday, you know, nine
and five, but some big closeouts on Kyrie Irving. But
is that what this game is going to be remembered for?

Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Holliday's game was Game two. Him and Porzingis split Game one,
but Porzingis was a story for game one. But Jalen
Brown's kind of just been the consistent guy. He's twenty three,
twenty five and thirty. So I agree with that that
right now, Jalen Brown would be the favorite. But if
someone has a big Game four. Let's just say Tatum
goes for forty five and the Celtics win, and they
win in four, Tatum's gonna get the MVP.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
If Drew Holliday scores twenty and Kyrie goes six for
twenty three and flames out and runs off the floor
and starts lighting stage, Drew Holliday can be the MVP.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, I mean that only happens if the other two
guys are subpar. But I like the way that you're
trying to speak it into existence, Lvar Ball. You keep
doing that as you go twenty four, six and six
for Jalen Brown through the first three, twenty one point seven,
round up to nine and seven for Tatum at this point.

(06:13):
But how many thought pieces? And again it goes back
to the conversation we were just having last hour. Though
you know, talking about the Celtics as a whole related
to systems and respecting them despite the path. You know,
sometimes in life the path just opens up. You make
the phone call, Hey, you know what, I know a guy,
or Hey, you know what, we just opened up a
wreck for this that the other, Hey, I know a guy,

(06:36):
and there's a you know, slot that opened here. Open
mouths say things. I mean, stuff happens in all businesses,
in all walks of life. And for the Celtics, it's
not their folk. Guys got hurt. They didn't gluye anybody, right,
they didn't get anybody run on their way at least
not look proven to this point on their way to
the NBA. We're saying is the Knicks might have been

(06:59):
the second best team in the NBA. Absolutely sure, get it.
Why not, let's go down that thuppies. But the point
being that Jason Tatum has gotten his share of incoming
throughout the season and last season and the season before that,
because he will seed the big moments right the stats

(07:19):
at times for Jalen Brown or if Derek White's on
a heater or Al Horfer's at his games right ad
porzingis this year all of those things that he doesn't
always have to be the leader in the box score. Now.
Normally he responds to someone asking him point in blank
and a presser by going and trying to put up
huge numbers. Remember that happened last round and what do

(07:41):
you do? Responded with back to back games of like
thirty three and eleven. So you have those kind of things.
But all said is you've got a couple of guys
that can be one in one A. Unfortunately the team
doesn't get a Finals MVP trophy as a unit for
best defense. We're gonna reward everybody that played meaningful minutes

(08:03):
for the Celtics. You get one, you all get Mini
Finals MVP awards.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, it's funny you say that because we know we
talked to Mark Stein and we're gonna have him on
Friday night after Game four, longtime NBA insider covers the
games for the Mavericks, and we said, I remember saying
to him before the series started, what's the biggest fear
for the Dallas Mavericks And he said, without a doubt.
He said that everybody on the Celtics can hit threes,

(08:28):
and they can hit him from deep, and everybody can
and you just look at tonight. Tatum had four threes,
White had four threes. Jalen Brown Al Horford each had
a couple of threes. Drew Holliday had a three, Sam
Hauser had three off the bench, Sam Hawser with three
with three threes off the bench. So that's a big
thing for the Celtics. Now, if you want to change that,
you want to change his conversation over a.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Little bit here, because here's a.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Good point to make is that we'll get to Luca
and Kyrie and how they've carried the team and the
Mavericks need a little bit more from the supporting cast.
If I'm looking at the Mavericks supporting cast right now,
and I'm looking at the Celtics, and I say, Okay,
what's the one thing that's a glaring need for the
Mavericks in this series? Why are they losing this series

(09:13):
to the Celtics. You can break down the Stars versus
the Stars, you can break down Luca and his breakdowns,
but one of the biggest things you can point to
is that the Mavericks just don't hit enough threes and
the Celtics, what they get from their support players are
guys that can hit threes once in a while, and
I'm saying, these guys have to come off the bench

(09:33):
and go seven for eight. But when you come off
the bench and go two for four, or you can
go two for five, or you know, or hit a three,
that's a big thing. The Mavericks don't have anybody else
that can dynamically score and doesn't need to be one
guy to score twenty points. But they don't have guys
that come off Hey, when two or three guys come
off the bench and at threes, boy, it looks like
the offense is still humming along and you're more dynamic.

(09:56):
They don't have anybody that can do that. I mean,
you look at the Mavericks tonight. This is an era
of the end where everybody hits threes. And you know,
they were nine out of twenty five. I mean Kyrie
hit four of them.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
PJ. Washington hit three, You get one from Luca. That's it.
I mean, that's what the three point threat was. So
if you're looking at one thing the Mavericks need, you know,
they they're supporting cast. Hey, these guys come through right.
Lively had a really big game tonight. His dunks near
the end were keeping them in it right, PJ. Washington.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
We talked about what kind of player he has. Gafford's
been a really good player too. But they need guys
that can hit threes. Every NBA team needs guys. Why
did the Knicks make it so far? They lost a
guy every game, but they hit threes, and Devincenzo hit threes,
and Josh Hart hit threes and Jalen Bruns hit threes.
When you can do that, you can cover up a
lot of ills. It's almost like we talk about a

(10:44):
quarterback being able to cover up ills of a team
because if he plays great well, you don't notice so
much that your pass rush isn't that great, or your
tight end is invisible in the offense, or your offensive
line can't protect because the quarterbacks got to buy ten.
If he's great, he covers up the hills. You can
at threes. You cover up a lot of ills that
your team has. And the Mavericks just they just can't

(11:04):
do it.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, for this game in specifically, and I'll take it
out to the series as a whole here in a second,
I mean, you look at the efficiency on the offense
offensive side for the Celtics. They had thirty eight makes
overall twenty six assists. Seventeen of those makes were from
three point range. So you're talking about getting the ball

(11:27):
around and finding an open man, right, getting an open look.
For the series, they have attempted forty nine more three
point shots than the Mavericks have. They've made twenty one
more three point shots than the Mavericks had. So you're
just talking about a barrage and death by a thousand cuts, rebounding,

(11:48):
a lot of these other things can be equal. We
talked about the assists problem that that has been consistent
for the Mavericks. Right, the good individual defense and not
having to force the double team, you're not getting a
lot of wide open looks, and when they do get him,
they miss him. Right, it was one oh two ninety
eight Kyrie Drew actually drew the rare double and PJ.

(12:10):
Washington was in the corner by himself, got a wide
open look and gagged it. Ball's going back the other way. So,
I mean, you're just talking about opportunities, and they've been there, right,
just like the games against Indiana, not to where we're
at ninety four percent win probabilities or whatever else, but
the Mavericks have had their chances despite obvious issues in

(12:32):
terms of their offensive sets. Say nothing about Luca's attempts
to play defense, because I'll give him the Avis Award.
He's trying harder, not succeeding, but he is trying. Say
nothing about Avis's performance there, just the old Slavery performance
his performance exactly. But yeah, to your point about three
point shots, a lot of wide open looks, and every

(12:55):
one of these guys can step out and hit Houser
stepping back and hitting a couple of chefs due go on. Yeah, dude,
he came up big and then his partner saying kuna matana.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean, and look, And the thing about this is
that during the regular season, right, you know how great
boss is it? And they led the league in threes
made threes in the regular season.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Mavericks were third.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
So it's not like you're asking them to, hey, do
something that we can't do.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
But you need to hit your threes. Man, you need
to be able to be more dynamic. You also need
to shoot. Moore can't do it. You're forty nine attempts
less forty nine. I mean, it's really it's it's it's
that simple.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I mean, you're one team that's almost seventeen to a game.
I mean, you can you can look and say, well,
you want to compare it. You know, hitting threes in
a game. Okay, we'll say a team like the Celtics,
you know they hit eleven threes and the Mavericks hit
six s. Well, they hit five more threes. No, that's
fifteen more points. It's not five more point, it's fifteen

(13:53):
more points. Just by that, when you hit seventy other
team at sixteen, that's that's twenty seven more point. You
realize how big a deal that is. And that was
what's stunning is that, you know, the look the Celtics
defense is good, but for the Mavericks, it's it's really become.
They've made it into a two man team and at
times just one with Luca and the pressure they've put on.
Because that's the That's the biggest thing I look at

(14:15):
is that any team that's won a title, they get
what they need from their support players.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
There's a couple of games where they steal.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
A game because hey, guess what, we didn't think so
and so was gonna come off the bench and go
seven for nine from three point range, and we won
Game three, won the swing Game three.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
That's not happening for the Mavericks. Yeah, there's always so
many times you're gonna get to the free throw line
for the and one right because you got to make
that shot right, taking it in, all right, two free
throws for you have at it, and you're not necessarily
getting to the line that much tonight. The Mavericks fourteen
of sixteen from the line basically the equal of what

(14:51):
the Celtics did. Not much variance there, So you're not
getting any advantage home court whatever and driving in if
you're not going to be able to take make those
three point shots, and it's a losing proposition and they're
gonna kick themselves because you see how close these games are.

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Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's a lot. Uh Listen, let's have the definitive Luka
Doncic conversation.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
He stinks. There's only one problem with Luka doncis right now.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Defensively, Celtics win Game three of the NBA Finals one
oh six ninety nine. Lukadancic fouls out thrown out fouls
out of the game with just under four minutes left
to go.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
The ohoo whoa He got out after a really bad
decision to try to get in the way of Jalen Brown.
He has called for a blocking foul and he fouls
out of the game. Uh, this is how it sounded
on the broadcast. And then we get into just why
Luca has to wear the goat horns, not just for

(17:57):
this game but for the series. Out of control, going
to the ground, a blocking He's done.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
With four to twelve remaining, Luka Doncic has.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Fouled out of Game three of the NBA Finals.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Celtics Radio Network on the call. It was a valiant
effort from the Mavericks arrest of the way. They tried
to stay close. Uh, Lively had a couple of slams
when they lost him in transition. It was great, but
the Celtics obviously just a little bit better. When Luka
Doncic fouls out of the game, He's not on the floor.
This is all on Luca. All of this is on Luca.

(18:36):
And we heard him after the game say the referees
they gave me six fouls in the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Dude, you earn every one of those fouls. I did
appreciate that day.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Come on, every one of those fouls, which files come on.
Going back to the third quarter where he gets I think,
his second foul because he decides he wants to try
to mug Derek White when he when he's ninety feet
from the basket and inbounds.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Play dude, what are you doing? Right? Luka Donsich is
too emotional of a player at times. And yes, you're young,
but you're in the NBA Finals, and when you let
your emotions overwhelm you, you're not going to play as
great as you can, right. You have to have that.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
It's not that you always have to be Hey, I
gotta be calm and cool enough, but you have to
find that way to balance your emotions with what you
have to do on the floor. It's what great players do.
And you've seen now the worst of Luca where he
completely gets caught up in taking bad shots just because
he's mad, or he gets caught up in trying to
draw contact instead of making a basket. And you know, look,

(19:41):
Rick Buker talked us about how many times it looked
like Luca was falling down after a shot and he's
screaming for a call and the ball is already going
the other way.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Couple of times he went into the stanchion. Think he
drew enough contact and then he's looking at the referee
instead of getting up like he's not in a great headspace.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
You can already tell he's not in a great headspace
in this game, and a lot of it comes from
the frustration of the Mavericks aren't winning and they're being
very and the Celtics being very physical with him and
it's bothering him. This is more Luca mentally not being
up for what's going on than it is for anything physical.
Because leading to that last foul, I mean, dude, you

(20:19):
have to know Game three of the NBA Finals, you're
the superstar. When you have five fouls and you get
three in the fourth quarter, Hey guess what when it
comes down to it, you gotta stay on the floor
because your team needs you offensively way more than you defensively.
And he makes the stupid decision to try to get
in the way of Jalen Brown when he's dribbling down

(20:39):
the court in the open court.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Now that's at the three point arc, right, Like, that's
the thing that needs to be you know, because we
don't have the advantage of saying watch the replay here,
we don't have the video, so you get a set up.
It's at three point arc. He decides to make this move.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
It's just stopped Jalen Brown's progress mentally. He was not
where he needed to be and he too emotional because
to go back to the two possessions before that, the
Mavericks had this huge comeback right they were down twenty
one and they go on a big twenty to two
run and they cut it to ninety three to ninety
and the Celtics missed a shot and Luca's got the
ball and he's one on one with Jason Tatum. And

(21:17):
to give Jason Tatum a lot of credit as well
as a game he had plate tonight, two incredibly large possessions.
He came up big, and because it got Luca fouled out.
Luca has the ball, Tatum takes him one on one
and Luca can't get a good shot off near the hoop.
The Celtics get the rebound. Now the Celtics miss, so
though the Mavericks come back down another chance, Luca's taking
it one on one again and he winds up getting

(21:37):
caught underneath the basket and he tries some crazy spin,
a fallaway jumper from about ten feet off that has
no prayer and the Celtics get the rebounds. That's two
shot times. He went down court and Jason Tatum was
locked up on him one on one and he missed
a shot.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
So you know he's pissed.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
You know he's pissed because he wants a foul call
every single time, even though the guy pushes off on
every single play, and he still gets mad when they
don't call a foul. It's why, it's why you get
the anti Lucas sentiment, because boy, the guy seems to
complain an awful lot, and he got caught up in
looking for foul calls and getting upset when he didn't
get them instead of just playing the game. And you know, emotionally,

(22:15):
he wasn't in a great spot because you had those
two plays that he just got worked one on one
offensively on. And now he decides, I'm gonna make a
hero play and step in front of Jalen Brown, and
Jalen Brown makes a really smart play because he knows, hey,
he's right in front of me. I'm not gonna try
to sidestep him and get to them because I might
be able to, but if I go into him, I
draw this car. I know Luca doesn't have position on me.

(22:37):
They got to call this foul on him. And that's
a great.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Play by Jalen Brown because the referees have no choice
but to blow the whistle and they go and look
at it because it is fouling out. Luca daunts in Game.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Three of the NBA Finals and Lucas screams when he
hits the ground, reverse the call or change a call,
change the call.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
And they go look at it and there's no evidence
to change the call. So if the officials didn't want
to do it, they wanted to throw throw him out.
You're really out that that phrase in your head. Nobody
wanted to foul Luca tonsons out of this game. The
the NBA wants him to say, they want seven games.
They're trying to foul that. The officials had no choice

(23:14):
but to call the foul and they had no choice
but to keep it. This is all on Luca and
he's gotta own it. And after the game he didn't
own it. He was like, oh, you're gonna call six
fouls on me? Dude.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
You got to understand you lost tonight because of you.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
You. I mean, you can sit here and say, well,
Kyrie was great, he missed a shot at the end.
The other guys, But if you were a little bit
more in charge of your emotions, if you were a
little played, a little bit smarter, then you would have
been able to kind of see this game through to
the end. And you wiped out their entire lead. You're
at home the final few minutes, you have all the attention,
but no, Luca emotionally was too fraught and he wasn't

(23:48):
in a great headspace, and the Celtics drew that out
of him, and this is why they're down. This loss
is on Luca one hundred percent. Yeah, I mean, you
can draw out the you have four minutes left right way,
and you'd battled back to nearly even keep your head.
But what did we watch the entire game? As we
talked about with Rick Buker, and you referenced a minute ago,

(24:09):
the idea that he started on the offensive end not
only complaining about files that weren't called, but also more
so initiating contact, like he was going to keep trotting
to the line for three point plays than just taking
a shot or keeping the ball moving, which was one
of the hallmarks of the squad. You referenced it earlier,

(24:30):
something we've been bringing up, you know, for weeks about
their three point acumen. They were for the season great.
Measured up against the Celtic squad, you fall hopefully short
both in attempts and certainly on makes in this series.
So for Luca offensively, he then became that guy on

(24:50):
the other end. You saw it coaching your your daughter's
soccer teams. I'm sure I've certainly watched it in a
lot of games that I have watched my daughter's team
through the year. You don't get a call on one end,
and what do you do? You immediately go back and
like I'm getting my revents, Like all right, the referees
watching you go from the end of that play right there,
that file's coming, Well, you may not actually hit them,

(25:11):
you may not touch them, but if they changed their
gait at all or decide to flop to the ground
and take the shot, that they're going to get the call.
Guess what, they get the call. And Luca was doing that.
He was playing that missile defense like where he's just
running around like in frantically He's like, all right, I
don't know that that's truly defensive. I mean it's effort,

(25:31):
but is it really confined you a real defensive effort?
I thought offensively, he was doing the raptor fence testing
since we celebrated the anniversary of Jurassic Park this week,
right where it's like, all right, I gotta see exactly
how much contact because they didn't call that fall. Boy,
I'm really gonna lean into this guy this time and
see if I get a fall call. And every possession

(25:52):
started to look like that, and you can go box
score reading and go, oh he had a good night. No,
he was terrible, and defensively he was awful. On the
play where he falls out that one of the video angles, yeah,
might look look the part, but then you get the
reverse and you can see him literally jumping in. His
feet are both off of the ground as he makes
contact with Jalen Brown coming into him because he's still

(26:15):
trying to jump into that spot. So for Brown, a
nice easy play reverse. Now, you'd had a couple of incidences,
and with those two players in particular, where they were
going after a loose ball a couple of minutes earlier
and they both went pinballing off to the side and
the referees just kind of shrugged. You know, like a
referee in soccer would be like a no, just a

(26:38):
bang bang, play keep going and everybody's standing around. The
ball bounces a couple of I guess it's still in play.
Go folle either guys, so let's go. But in that
particular case, yeah, you lost that call, and you deserve
to because you've been playing pretty recklessly and emotionally and
you were out of sorts, and you know that's one
of those situations. You got to keep head and tell

(27:01):
me how young he is. That's great, he's in the
league six years already.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Now here's Luca after the game, where we wondered is
he gonna take ownership of what he did or is
he gonna blame the referee?

Speaker 3 (27:12):
How was that diet coke?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Hey, the diet coke that I won from you in
my bet because I said Luca was gonna blame the officials.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
It tastes so good.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
Every time they joy it basically call the fall. So
I tried to be better him, So gotta get better.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Okay, so far, okay, I gotta be better. But hey,
every time we drove the ball they called a foul,
So okay, so let's call that a push.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Let's call that push. Let's continue on. Take us through
right here in the middle. Just take us through your
emotions when you fell out of the game and you
see your team trying to fight back into it.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
I mean, yeah, we had a good chance when over close. Uh,
just didn't get a hose out there.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Any other questions for Luca? Got Tim right here?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
First rough, Here comes the money question and answer. Here
comes Tim McMahon ESPN. Luca, what did you think of
the whistles that would against you in the fourth quarter?

Speaker 6 (28:17):
I mean, yeah, I don't know. We couldn't put it physical,
so I no, I don't want to say nothing, but
you know six following the NBA Finals, basically, I'm like this,
come on, man, better than that.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
All I was missing was don't you know who I am?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
You're gonna call six foul? Man? Be a final? Come on?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah there was, Luca, Hey, not my fault. I can't
believe you're calling these fouls on me. I kind of
dig him a little more for that. Here's the other
part of it, right, is that, Okay, you can be upset,
but you got to be a smarter player and know, hey,
when they call these first four on me like that,
that's how they're officiating the game.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I have to adjust instead.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
No, I'm gonna continue beating my head against the wall
until there's nothing left. When you get four fouls, Okay,
this is how they're called. You can agree or disagree,
but you know this is how they're calling it. You know,
Jason Can I'm sure they were yelling no more fouls. Dude,
be smart, do this, but no, no, no, Lucas still
played incredibly recklessly. And I don't care if you agree
or to it, but you got to be smarter to
know how the game is being officiated.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
And he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And that's like I said, this is on him and
I was hoping he would own it, but he didn't.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
And I'm glad I won that diet coke from you
because you said he's gonna own it. And let me
take my final sip of this diet cokevictay, I just
like I said, come on, Jason Kidd on the Celtics
hunting Luca nadgets when the Mans are on defense, quote,
he's definitely got a bull's eye on his chest. He's
got to be able to guard and understand that we're
there to protect him.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
A little bit of Hey, Luca, how about you come
through a little bit that of saying, hey, I was bad.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
We need but I need more.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
How about a little bit of guys, my fault, because
I wonder how that's gonna play the next day or
so with the Mavericks of Luca going, hey, I can't
believe they're calling these fouls. And because look all those teammates,
they know the fouls that are being called. They know
that the team was probably telling him, hey, dude, stop this,
what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Be smarter, be smart than the coach.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
We're telling him this, And now Luca's going to do
oh well, come on, man, you can't be doing that.
I wonder how that's good.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
It's clear the guys from Bally Sports Southwestern listening to you,
Jason Kidds speaks on Luca Donc's being ejected on.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Fouls out all right now, a guy who's been ejected
from this show plenty of times is Brian Finlin with
what's trending in the wide world of sports?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
And I had the record for that. Hi, Hi, Tom,
you you're the Draymond Green of getting ejected. Is that
a badge of honor?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I mean, maybe well, when you get to sixteen, you
wind up not getting paid.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
For your next ship. Okay, well that's what happens.

Speaker 7 (30:56):
Yeah, well I think was that tom or was that
a squirrel in the background. I can't even imagine what
is being said there. Anyway, let's get into what you
guys were talking about. That faithful sixth foul that was
called on Luca dan Chicha. It was the first time
he fouled out in a playoff game in his career.
Happened with about four minutes to go in the fourth
quarter of Game three of the NBA Finals. The team

(31:18):
is Mavericks were down by three at the time. They
had come back from twenty one down to three. Then
the comeback hopes are spoiled because he is out and
it's a Celtic win in Game three in Dallas, by
the way, one oh six to ninety nine, with Game
four coming up on Friday, as the Celts looked for
this sweep before this game on Game three, during Game three,

(31:41):
right beforehand, there was a little bit of an event
where there was a moment of silence to honor one
of the game's best, one of the best ambassadors that
basketball has ever seen. With the honoring of Jerry West,
who passed away today. I'm eighty six years old. Meanwhile,
in Major League Baseball, let's go there and the dog
no wonder justin Frosburg has been so quiet tonight his Dodgers.

(32:03):
They lose three to two at home to the Rangers,
despite the fact that shoe Hey Otani hit a home
run in the first inning, had a who lot of
offense to.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Show more runs last night than the Padres have all year.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
Okay, but that still didn't translate into a win.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
At least you.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Understand, okay, okay, while I acknowledge that, Okay, oh yeah,
got it.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
Yeah, if only those runs carried over to the next game.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Go rub Profar's legs. Wow, well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
That's a drop. Why don't you go rub Profar's legs
like like blurs and stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
You could have.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Said, Mahano, you could have said to teach.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
You could have because Profar is dealing with injury.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah no, no, it didn't. Boy, it's oh boy, Okay, yeah,
that's the thing sos.

Speaker 7 (32:58):
Dodgers lost, and now he's taking it out on everybody.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
But it's three to two Rangers.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Mike Harmon's white Sox coming up just shortened tenantings against
the Mariners two to one, and so close again, but
that doesn't usually equate to wins unfortunately, Angels eight to three.
They get it done against the Diamondbacks. The Yankees victorious
eleven to five against the Royal Gean Carlos Stan hit
a four forty nine foot blast the home run after
the Yanks scored six runs in the first inning. Notably

(33:26):
the Red Sox eight to six. They get it done
against the Phillies, also a win for the Mets. Yes
they do, ten to four. They finally come up with
a win, this time versus the Marlins. Red sold off
the Guardians four to two, a win for the Cubs
Orioles win six in a row. Nationals continue their winning
ways after seven to five beat down of the Tigers.

(33:47):
The Padres for back to back days walk off home
runs in the bottom of the ninth. This time it
was Jackson Merrill with his solo home run, his second
of the day, five to four pods over the A's
Giants victorious were the Brewers and the Twins put up
seventeen runs in twenty four hits on the Rockies and
Is seventeen to nine victory. With that, let's get it

(34:09):
back to two guys who might be the third and
fourth competitor of the hot dog eating contest that's coming
up on Labor Day on Netflix. You got Joey Jest,
Nune Taker with Kobahashi and why not throwing a couple
Fox Sports radio guys in Jason Smith and Mike Harmen
to battle it out as well.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, you know in eight minutes, I could eat about
four or five. I do pretty good, pretty well, And I.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Got a big hot dog. Yeah. I go back to
being a kid and having one with a lot of
night rates. So I was in a mgjagger. But I
would want to eat it like like they do.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I would say, I know, give me a hot dog
with a nice piece of cheese around it and some
mustard and some onions.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
I can do five, can do four bacon? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And now you're talking. You would dip it into like
some water and then just kind of go.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, no, not, I want to taste that drinking water.
Come out, drink water. Every day. I have to coming
up next in the form of get Go.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
If you thought we'd been hard on Luga Donca twelve
reatally here?

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Who else is I have a theory here? Jason and
Mike Fox Sports Radio detrited.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Who be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
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Speaker 1 (35:29):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
up such special live from the tyrack dot Com Studios.
Now you thought we'd been tough on Luga, doncis, We've
actually been fair. It's his fault.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
He owns it.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
He was too emotional, he played reckless the entire game.
It was your fault. I mean, it's his fault. Why
did he foul out? He can sit here and say, oh,
the referees gaming foul. Dude, you watch that game. You
were out of control. You deserve to foul out. You
cost them the game.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
It is kind of funny that I can get it.
It was your fault from into the woods, because many
people thinking that Luca, while he was sitting on the
sideline for those final four minutes, kind of looked like
James Cordon.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
All of a sudden, Tom Cruse shows up there flying
a plane together. But if you think we were harsh
on Luka, Donzig. Listen to ESPN's Brian Winhorst in his
best hot take tryout Here we go in his best.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Radio hot take. Tryout.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Here's Brian Windhorst after the game from just a little
bit ago on Luka Doncich.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
I thought it was perfect that Luca fell onto the
ground there in an unacceptable position to put himself in
with four minutes left with five fouls, and then immediately
looks at the bench and says, you better bleeping challenge it,
as if it's the bench's fault that he just made
a terrible play. I'm standing here in the Mavericks tunnel.
Over there is the Celtics tunnel. That's where the winners are.
If Luca's ever going to be a winner coming out

(36:50):
of this tunnel here, he is going to have to
use this have what's happened in this finals as a
learning experience. His defensive performance is unacceptable. He is a
hole on the court. The Celtics are attacking him. They
are ahead in this series because they have attacked him defensively.
And you've got a situation here where lucas complaining about
the officiating.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
They have begged him, they have talked with him, They.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
Have pleaded with him. He is costing his team because
of how he treats the officials. He's a brilliant player,
he does so many things well, they are here because
how he did His performance in this game is unacceptable
and the reason why the Mavericks are not going to win.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
He's got to get over this. And the fact that he.

Speaker 8 (37:24):
Came out after the game and blame the officials showed
me He's nowhere close yet. So maybe over the summer
somebody will get to him, because nobody with the Mavericks
or anybody else in his life has and that's where
the Mavericks are at this point. They're never going to
get to this tunnel with the trophy if he doesn't
improve those facts aspects, say his.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Name three unacceptables. Now now, now let me Lanny Hurley
is still the front runner.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Let me do a little bit of Brian Windhorse with
what's the way when he puts his fingers up, like,
why would they do that?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Right?

Speaker 3 (37:52):
The whole thing? Why would we?

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Now Brian Windhorse goes nuts on on here on SVP
show on the ESPN. I'll put my fingers on my
best pride.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Why would he do that?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Does it sound to me like this is something that
was given to him by the Mavericks. And hey, if
you wanted to say this about Luka Dodsich, go ahead
and say it, because he never says stuff like this.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
This strikes me. Ever says stuff like, yeah, this strikes
me as a guy going, how do I get the
stink of this thing with shams as far off me
as I can? Because I reported that my guy, you know,
buy my book The Miracle of Saint Anthony, about Hurley's
dad and his history, because I put out that he

(38:35):
was the front runner this whole time, and everybody's like, wait,
what we had Dan weike on. I never heard Hurley
say it once? Right, all of this suff So what
do I do. I go on my first opportunity, and
I hot take it up as much as I can.
I don't dispute what you said there about potentially people
in the Mavericks organization that may have a liking problem

(38:56):
with the flopping and the complaining side, as in they
don't like it at all and they're tired of it
to a man. But the other part is certainly sitting
out there as an insider. He took a little bit
of incoming the two of them in that verbal Well,
slap fight is what that was.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, but that the way he goes The Mavericks have
had it with this, they've had it with him.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Sure, this sounds to me, why would he do that.
This sounds to me like this.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Was a message from the Mavericks and he went out
and said it. And maybe it's something where hey, if
you went out and said this, we wouldn't be upset
about it.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Or whatever it is. It's getting him attention, obviously, but
he doesn't do stuff like this. For him to take
all these shots and look, it's like he bet money
on the game. It's like he lost a guy like, dude,
I had them, Come on, man, your points again by
getting yourselfie.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Launch, dude, much money I bet that you wouldn't get
you wouldn't foul out of a game.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Come on, man, but I used your parlance.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
That's I mean, really when I heard that's all the
sounded like, Oh, this sounds like this is the Mavericks
what they want to say to him, but they can't.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
So here's a message through the beer.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Again.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I'm just playing a game that I've seen played for
the better part of the last twenty years is that
this is this is something said by a guy when
it's a message they would like to get out to him.
But you have to worry about your relationship with him.
And Jason Kids got to worry about his relationship, and
Mark Cuban does too. We want to get that relationship
and we want to get this out there if we
want to keep our relationships.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
I like that, Yeah, I like mine better. The I'm
getting the stink of all of this off me, because
now you're going to be talking about my hot takery
of Luca Tachi's and deciding whether it has merit. Well,
if he I would agree with you.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
If he ended by saying how about that Sham's and
he dropped like and he want pretty good?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
And then he goes in the tunnel and grabs Luca's beer.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Worst move ever.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Michael Finley strewed this whole thing up.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Everything was great until Michael Finley grabbed Luca's beer. Everything
was working fine for them. That could be it the
curse of Michael Barley beer grabbing.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
From I.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
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