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June 20, 2024 37 mins

Jason and Mike react to the End of the Grimace era. Jason explains why Monty Williams is the perfect fit to be the next Lakers head coach. And the guys dish out next season's NBA Finals predictions.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:25):
Sports Radio. Greetings, welcome inside. Happy one week anniversary of
the Grimace era in all of sports. Congratulations sports up
until June twelfth, twenty twenty four sports after June twelve,
twenty twenty four era.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
So what did you eat to come up again? Verse week?
The week anniversary to now now here?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
May?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
What's the actual thing? You're going to make a grid
like we want with marriages?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I told you McDonald's every day as long as I
met right, But going today today was a light day.
Today was a amocha. It was just a mooka when
I went that, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I just, I just I just why do I not
believe you? Not? Even it's a basic cheeseburger or fry
or a piping hot apple pie.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
To hear the roof of your mouth, never eating the
apple pie. No, no, no, I didn't know they make the
apple pie anymore. I don't think they mentioned they do.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, you just ordered the cookies, so it doesn't matter.
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
It was a big mac and fries at like six thirty,
so like to go out. We're out to them. I'm like, yeah,
let's just get a drink. I'll just get a drink.
I'll keep the streak going, keep the streak a lot.
Keep yourself live, keep yourself live.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Hey, did you see their news one point two seven
billion for the rights to their music?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
You know, like the fact that you think he eats
the apple pie?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh oh, well, you know what, Okay, I got it.
Keep it in a good frame of mind. It's it's
a positivity Wednesday. Yes, I'm trying to keep my mentals
in check and that was not gonna help. So eating
burning for his mouth, funny other stuff. Thank thank you,
Stiffler for the obvious joke on the apple pie.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Thanks so, how many seconds is your microwave set for?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
No, no, no, no, no, dude, there's no way Man's apple pie.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I think in McDonald's they just they just put the
apple pie and when they would give it to you,
and how long microwave for it says fifteen seconds?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
What two minutes and fifteen seconds? Got it? Okay, great,
there we go. That's what we'll do. I hit the
lava button. Yeah it was tough.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
It was tough, but here we are, man, Grimace era.
And look, those of you who embraced the Grimace era.
Grimace is for everyone. Having this conversation with Tycher before
we started the show, the Grimace era is for everyone.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
If you embrace it, Grimace will love you back.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Look at last night, Frostburg, who you think would be
the first guy to say all you have is Grimace?
The Mets steak Grimace. He's what did he say in
the air last night? Hey man, the Mets may never
lose again. This Grimace era is something. And what happens.
DoD just scored seven runs of the ninth thinning to
win a game. He embraces the Grimace era. Your skeptical
of the Grimace era, and the White Sox continue to lose.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
But that's nice.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
You finally see you say something nice about the Grimace
era and the White Socks win.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I have not mocked Fix's not rocket science, man, No,
I don't have the Grimace Era. Nice effort by Jonathan Cannon,
the rookie that they're trying to figure out if they
actually have a player, you know that they're not paying
any money to that could at one point be good
for somebody else. But the idea of the Grimace era,
you know, a lot, a lot has been made, you know,

(03:25):
and karma gets thrown out there and all that. Like
you're looking for positivity, that's all Mets fans are ready
to abandon the season. You were ready to abort the season.
You talked about it openly on air. You're like, I
don't know what I'm gonna do. I gotta wait till
training camp. I think you were gonna start just calling
in sick every night because psychologically you just couldn't handle
the way the Mets were playing. And then lo and behold,

(03:46):
the Grimace Era begins. It's fun, it's entertaining. We talk
about superstitions, we talk about finding your lucky socks, your whatever,
you know, whatever piece of equipment gets you in between
the white lines of the awe that you go to
every day. And I'm talking to you, America, that whatever
that is, if it's a giant cup of coffee. You're

(04:06):
gonna keep doing it because it helps you get those
small winds along the way. For the Mets, they found
a week of lightning in a bottle. I had to
I mean, look, I had to get something today. I'm like, okay,
it didn't It didn't say you know when I said
McDonald's every day until the Mets lose. It didn't have
to be well, you have to get a full meal.
Was just have to get something so you know, get
the getting the drink is yeah, well, because the other

(04:26):
thing is, you know, people are texting me, go wow,
everybody on the network's talking about Jason Smith his health
and the McDonald's or whatever. The reference supersized me, and
I'm like, remember the man was a raging, chronic alcoholic.
At the same time, Okay, that has come out. It
wasn't just McDonald i'mbout saying eating a lot of McDonald's
for thirty days is gonna do a lot for you.

(04:48):
But the reality was he had some other factors that
had to be considered in this process in terms of
what happened to his organs.

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Mets continue to try to keep their win streak alive,
tied three to three with the Rangers in the seventh
of the Grimace era, Uh, the biggest story in sports

(05:20):
and there's a big shoe to drop you. I'm gonna
give you a Big Bowl prediction in a minute. Manny
Williams got fired as head coach at Detroit Pistons today
And it wasn't surprising because what did what did they
lose fifty seven games in a row this year?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
What was that horrible, terrible, really really bad. Uh yeah,
it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. Uh, it wasn't. It
wasn't good.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
First things first is this, and this is this. I
really have a tough time coming around to this. Detroit
eight sixty five million dollars to get rid of Manti Williams, right,
they owe him sixty five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Danny Hurley was offered seventy million.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I know, I know, Hey, hey, Danny, how about we
just pay you what we're gonna pay money to get
rid of them. They're absorbing all sixty five million dollars, right.
This was a six year, seventy eight million dollar contract.
When he got fired by the Suns. Was Coach of
the Year with the Phoenix Suns, and here he is
in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
It didn't work out.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
And I know that that that teams are worth in
the in the billions of dollars now, and even when
the lowest of the market, teams, if they were sold,
would would go for in the high hundreds of millions
and close to a billion dollars. But man, and I
know the owners are making money, and I know they
sit here and we don't get a fair representation of
the monies that they make on sports because they wouldn't

(06:40):
be doing it if they didn't make money. But I really,
I mean all of that. Knowing all of that, knowing
all of that, I have a hard time believing the
Pistons have sixty five million dollars to just throw away.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
I have a hard time believing they have that kind
of money.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
And you know what anybody said, but I have the Pistons,
they've been the worst did they've been the last four years? Well,
what's there record been? Having won one hundred games in
the last four years?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
And and and they they have. They have sixty five
million dollars.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
They could eat really like that, Like that should have
precluded them from getting a new coach for the next
four year.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh buddy. The sole owner of the Pistons is Tom
Gores born Tufique Gorgias. He's net worth a six billion.
He has sixty five million to just burn. You're sure
about that. He can do the entire he can do
the entire Joker thing from Dark Knight, because I think

(07:31):
if he could do Burn.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I think if he could do that, he would have
gotten better free agents to go along with k K.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
But you can only do so much under the salary
cap structure. He can't pay anymore beyond wow. I mean, look,
we can all nod and wink and wonder what other
enticements are there beyond your actual NBA contract. But to
this point, there hasn't been a giant scandal related to Hey,
this guy got a couple of houses in the hills

(07:58):
in addition to his three hundred million dollars. I don't
know that that's you know never happened, but at this
point I would have thought Woes or one of these
guys would have done a deep dive. Windhorse would have
been pointing at you and trying to be a hot
take artist and whatever else, and then Shams would have
just been sitting there with a smirk out of his
face the whole time. Like all of that to say,

(08:18):
if he could just pay anybody anything, then sure. But
right now, I mean, you vacation in Detroit. I don't
want to disparage the good city. I'm just saying, if
you got choices as a free agent, is that where
you're going up? Is the legacy of the microwave that
strong for you? Now, it's funny you say that.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
It's funny you say that because I'm gonna go really
bold here.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I'm gonna go really bold.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
And go opposite of what has been widely assumed and
somewhat reported. The Lakers need a head coach, right, Lakers
and Cavaliers need a head coach. It looks like the
Cavaliers moving towards James Barrego. The Lakers after swinging and missing,
or I don't know they swung and miss. I think
they took a fastball down the middle on Danny Hurley.
It was JJ Reddick, right, he was kind of red

(09:08):
will there Smith at.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
The other night or last night where he was trying
to call time and.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I'm stepping out and it's gonna go right down the middle,
I'm not gonna swing. After having that happened, all right,
JJ Reddick was the guy. There was nobody else. Reddick
was there. Yes, I understand, we're not going to announced
anything till after the finals are over, and ESPN wants
him to work there, and I understand, and these stories
the last couple of days that JJ Reddick is it's
it's all but done. And Reddick has been kind of

(09:34):
unofficially hired already. That doesn't make sense. That doesn't pass
the smell test. And for a team that could have
done this now the last if JJ Redick was a
done deal, you get him right because you need you
need a head coach. And if Reddick is your guy,
the day after the NBA Finals, you say, hey, guess what,
Reddick's our guy. Reddick is alight. We don't want to
risk losing him to Cleveland or somebody else or something.

(09:56):
You don't want to risk that Reddick's your guy. Why
would you need to hire him and why would.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
You need to do it.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I know you want to try to to try to
put a coaching staff together that really builds him up.
But he's the head coach, right, you don't want to
lose him, and they haven't. I would go I'm gonna
go bold here, I'm gonna go bold here and say
this is what the Lakers were waiting on. That Reddick
what Reddick was their guy unless Monty Williams came free.
Because Monty Williams is a really good coach, right did

(10:22):
work out in Detroit. Detroit's terrible, but he was Coach
of the Year with the Phoenix Suns. This is a
guy that sounded. This is a guy that has the
basketball cachet that everybody will buy into. He's gonna get
the Lakers to play hard. Doesn't matter what happened in Detroit.
Detroit is Oh, look, Detroit's barely on the on the
radar screen for the NBA. But there's no reason why
they would drag their feet on JJ Reddick unless there

(10:42):
was another guy out there they were waiting for. Now
that could be a huge mystery candidate we don't know about,
like Hey, maybe Greg Popovich in three days are gonna say, Hey,
I'm out.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I'm done. I hate this webby guy. He's getting all
the credit.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Man, I want to go to the Lakers now unless
something like crazy like that happens. But I wonder, and
I'm sitting here trying to put the canne the dots
that this is what they were waiting for, and there's
gonna be quick interviews with Monty Williams. They gotta figure
out the money and money he's owed and everything else.
But this is the guy they were waiting for. Hey,
if we can get Monty, that would change things. We
like JJ, but boy, Monty would really be something. And

(11:15):
I'm gonna go bold that you're gonna see his name
connected with the Lakers in the next twenty four hours.
They're gonna interview him, and when it happens, it's gonna
wind up being Monty Williams.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I'd have to figure out what date it was. But
we did actually have a report a few weeks ago,
and you and I broached the topic of Williams to
the Lakers briefly because there was a report lingering as
the regular season faded into the rear view that Williams
and his staff were gonna get let go. So it
becomes the eyebrow raising of all right, now what do

(11:47):
we got and here we are today? They decide to
just eat all that money. Now about Monney Williams, part
of me is going, how much do I love coaching?
How much do I like my thirteen million dollars a year?
Because I mean, you start getting into offsets and whatever
the legal wranglings are in terms of what you get
paid if you take another gig. But for me, yeah,

(12:08):
I mean you've got a guy with a track record,
a guy that has a history with players other personnel
in the league and has been one of the most
sought after as related to the amount of money that
the Pistons paid him to come there. Right, I mean,
he was a guy a couple of years ago. It's like,
all right, will he be the Lakers coach? This time?

(12:29):
Wasn't in that cycle? This time the opportunity knocks and
again it's gonna be the what is Lebron and ad
too want? Right, it's the short and long term. If
you're the Lakers, I think you want to fix short term.
Long term's got to figure out it figure itself. Out
over time, right, as much as you'd like to have
both work together, and that was part of the hurly

(12:50):
big push and dalliance there, but for now you've got
to do whatever you can to maximize the lebron era,
assuming right after he opts out and gets his new
contract that it's actually a contract that he signs with
the Lakers, right, did anybody find him at that Kendrick
Lamar concert to find out? For sure? I don't lean

(13:10):
anything out of that.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Look, I know that there's been a big push, and
it's gotta be done, right because if the Lakers are
really going to do this, they can't. If they're gonna
go in for Monnie Williams and not get, they're gonna
lose JJ Reddick. Reddick's not gonna be the third guy. Als, Okay,
you wanted Dan early, all right, I got he's got
a great resume. I understand. Okay, but now you're talking

(13:34):
to me, Oh, now you're waiting for Minnie Williams. So
it reports earlier today that maybe Monny Williams, you know,
is he gonna be even be a Lakers candidate. That's
up in the air. It's gotta be done. It's got
to be done in one fell. So either they know
they're gonna get Monny Williams and he's the guy, or
it's gonna be a quick pivot to JJ Reddick because you.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Can't have him go out now. I'll wait, I'll wait,
I'll wait.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Only you can only ask somebody so many people to
the dance and then say no. For the your third
or fourth choice is gonna say no.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Beat it.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
So it's gonna it's gotta be done. It's got to
be a really fine line. It's got to be done
under the radar, and it's gotta happen fast. But watch out,
I'm telling you, MANI Why else are they dragging their
their feet on JJ Redick?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well, I mean they might have been just trying to
go with the unwritten rules and protect the sanctity of
the NBA and let it sit in Rumerville. Unfortunately, at
times it overshadowed what was a really bad final series. However,
as we look at it now, right you're on the clock,
the draft is coming up, Your off season is shrinking

(14:36):
by the day like sands in the hourglass. Uh And
and you gotta move forward. Uh. For for Reddick, you
know he's a guy sitting there and and he'll probably,
you know, after this, other teams will probably take a
look at him. But if you could walk right in
and say, hey, how's the coach of the Lakers, even
if it's for two years, you get a pile of

(14:56):
cash and guess what. TV's always waiting. It's like I
always preached for years before all this nil stuff. In
the change in college, Jason, the colleges aren't closing. If anything,
it's easier. You don't have to wear pants. You could
get a degree from the comfort of your own home anymore.
So same thing. There's always going to be a television
job waiting for you. Exit. How about a Fresca exit?

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend
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We'll have more on this story as it develops. More
on the Grimace Era. The Mets now trailing by two
in the seventh inning, so they oh, they could be
on their way to the first loss of the Grimace Era.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It could happen.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I do want to It's not going to be perfect
the Grimace Era. It just got to be close to perfect.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well, it's over if they don't win nothing, it's completely over.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
The era is toppled.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
We'll see these statues of Grimace's toppled and a fiddler
in the streets.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
One win, it's over.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
It's it's over, Johnny, it is over. We got more
bad ketball on the way. How about this right? How
about Mike and I hit you right between the eyes?
Coming up next, Mike and I will tell you who's
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(17:28):
coach first. Let him get a head coach. Ded.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
We can see if they go to the finals. But
you know it comes down to this, Mike.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
When when you when you look at hiring your next
head coach, right, all the many Williams fired today and
the Piston decide they're gonna eat sixty eight million.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Dollars rather than be their coach.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
You know, you see a guy go from hey, he's
a Coach of the Year like he was with the
Phoenix Suns and they were great in the regular season.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
They racked up wins and it was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
And one year suddenly, wow, how how great a coach
can he be because he goes to the Pistons and
they have one of the worst regular seasons of the
last twenty five years in the NBA. Yeah, obviously it's
about the talent on the team, but you want to
think that a coach can make a difference and at
least bring some sort of style or philosophy. And I'll
be honest with you now, where things are in the NBA,

(18:14):
and this is why Monti Williams is a great hire
where things are in the NBA. And you saw with
the Celtics winning the title the other night that you
can win with an offensive system that is pretty much
just hey, guys can all hit threes, and we rely
on our players to make the ISO plays they need to.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
We make plays in transition.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's okay, right, the Celtics have shown you that without
this great offensive system, just hey, our guys go out
and kind of do their own thing. Hey, it works, right,
And that's a strategy. And then people want to dismiss it,
but you see that works. The biggest thing is the
number one thing. The only thing I would look at
if I need a head coach in the NBA is
I would say is this guy? Is he good for

(18:52):
the company? I would say, is this guy going to
get the team to play defense? Because that's the only
sure fire way to improve and the only thing that
you can really control. Because offensively, you've seen different ways
it works talent out there, but if you can get
the team to play well defensively, you're worth it. Right,
and look at the coaches that have won. Right, Missoula

(19:13):
is a really good defensive coach. Right, Boss is a
really good defensive team. Look how far the Timberwolves came
on defense. Right, the Knicks with Thibodeaux, who is defensive specialists,
look at where they've come in the last four years.
And Manti Williams is a great defensive coach. He took
the Suns, who I think we're giving up two hundred
points a game before he showed up, and they went
from like one of the worst in the league to
middle of the pack, you know, top third of the league.

(19:34):
So you know he's going to get the buy in
and the only sure fire away you can improve from
year to year. Look, yes, you can rely on and
you can hope the draft works out, you can hope
free agency works out. But one thing that'll work out
if you can play defense. If the coach can come
in and get everybody to buy in just to play defense,
that guy is worth it. No matter what else happened.
Offense can be what it is. Everything else can be

(19:56):
whatever it is. But if the guys can all buy
in and play defense, you see what happened teams and
they magically transform and Manti Williams is that guy.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, let me quote Joe Missoula as I don't know
if this is appropriate, but it's fun. Quote anyway, Batman
goes into the interrogation room with the Joker and it
was the coolest moment of like good and evil have
to coexist, differences have to coexist in order to bring
the best out of each other and the people around you.
Relate it back to defense. Yeah, you don't want to

(20:24):
play defense for forty eight minutes and a lot of
guys go through a game and it's selective, right, I mean,
I think that would be the fair way to talk
about Luca. That would be the fair way to talk
about where Lebron is in his career Steph Curry in
terms of aptitude effort on that side. When you're given
so much on the offensive end, right, it's hard to

(20:47):
do both consistently and do them well in this NBA,
which is much more wide open, running around three point shots,
free flowing offenses, as opposed to all right, we're gonna
slow down, get it into you, ink back to the basket.
Shot clock down to ten. All right, now we start
moving again. You just got fifteen seconds of rest, you

(21:08):
know that kind of thing. So it's the ability to
do now. I'd rather they hire JJ Reddick because I
think that'll be far more entertaining for us in terms
of the flow, the podcast that they'll have to keep
doing at this point, and watching people in our associated
media lose their minds. But I think you hit it

(21:29):
on the head, right. There's two things I need. I
need a guy that can get a bucket, and I
need people at the rim or with some tenacity on
the perimeter that can stop the bucket.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's the old NFL thing. I need a quarterback that
can make a play, and I need a guy rushing
off the edge that can get me to their quarterback. Right,
it's NBA, same thing, and a lot of it becomes
about philosophy and buying. And with Monni Williams, you remember
as much as you can get. And we talk about
coaches looking. Coaches get cycled out. You got Kerr, you

(22:02):
got Spolstra and Popovich everybody else. It's like going back,
let's roll the dice and see what the next thing
is to pop up. Are you in line for a contract?
Who did we get assigned to us? All right, let's
go and you do your best with it, because there
ain't a lot of longevity in this league, so in
the end you need players now. I certainly remember a
certain Fox Sports radio host who really tried to make

(22:25):
Detroit happen.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
I know, I know a couple of years ago, I
thought Kay Cunningham was gonna be the guy.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I know he's still gonna get paid, so it doesn't matter. No, no, no, no,
no no, there's a big difference. Lots of guys can
get paid. It's paid. We're talking about his performance, all right,
we have to talk about his performance being on the court,
being available and actually producing.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I really did, and instead they just went the other way.
They said, ah, you think we're gonna be good. What
just be actually do?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Because if it just came down, dude, I know we're
gonna do it. No, if it just came down to
which guy is gonna get a check, I mean that
that game's no fun because everybody's getting paid all the
way down to the twelfth Man. It's all just a
matter of how many zeros are there.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
You sided Batman, right, I did?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Oh No, Johnny Bush.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Should just break out a pul q in like five pieces.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I think that's five guys in the room gamble and
that's it room for aggressive expansion. I like that Frostburg,
let's go.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
I mean Monty Williams is old, but he looks crappy.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Oh I think he could get after he's wiring, but
like he's got to know he's got reach too. Though
he's got to reach. I would never be able to
get inside money. I'd be like Tyson trying to fight
Buster Douglas, Like you try to get in, but the head,
those long arms just pushing Tyson off, pushing Tyson.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
And there's no rules. So J. J. Reddick is gonna
lose because somebody will touch his hair or face.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Hey, that's why he's got to have a no touching
of the hair face like Ron Burgundy.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
That's the one point. No, well, no, you're going for
a coaching job. That's something you've got to give up everything.
You know that.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
No, But if they're all going in the ring together,
you have that one point where he says, now.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You have to get the rules right, no touching of
the hair. Remember the rest of us that that don't
get this job or going back into the media. So
no touching of the hair. And everybody will say, of course,
of course, of course. Uh So I'm.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Telling you that's the only thing I care about is
playing defense.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
That's all I care Speaking of defense, and the Grimace
era could be coming to with real quickly.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
We'll get to that with Monci coming up in a
couple of minutes.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yes, the Mets look like they're about to suffer the
first loss of the Grimace.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
What are you gonna do, buddy.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
We'll do well.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
The next three and a half hours will be in
retrospect on the week of the Grimace era.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Well, it's over if they lose.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
It's not though, no, just stop.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
What we have to do is wait and see if
McDonald's cuts bait and after the game is over all
the Mets loss, go back to Ronald, put the arches
back on the Twitter account the lost.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
They're gonna act like this never happened.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Grimace and his Mets hat, get it off of social media.
We don't need that right now, get it off, Get.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
It off, Get it off.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
That's gonna be. That's gonna be what you see. Okay,
the Grimace era is really over.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
See. I'll just be mad because anybody that tried to
deny the Grimace Era will immediately start taking their victory lapse.
And I just can't have that. I mean, you can't
be a fun hater like that professionally. Come on, So, yes,
it is now official.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
The New York Mets have suffered the first loss of
the Grimace era. Will remember you Rangers win it by
the final of five to three. And let me go
and make sure that McDonald still has Hang on, I'm
gonna check. Make sure they still have Grimis as a
Met and it's still there.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yes, it's still there. Grimace with a Mets hat pulling
a wagon with the Mets logo. It is still McDonald's logo.
It is still the Grimace era. Grimace Era is still going. Well,
don't have to worry about a sad day though. Wait,
let me hit refresh. It's gone. No, I'm kidding, it's
still then, No, it's no. Look, if they were that
on top of it, now, that would be extra special sauce.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Right the minute that game goes final, you go back
to Ronald McDonald and get the purple guy in the
Mets at off you just do it?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay, how did we not get the deal with the Yankees?
What we do? All right?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
So Mike and I have talked about this, and it's
time now as we get ready for the year, we
say goodbye to the Celtics. Their parade is coming up.
They win the NBA title, basically kind of a wired
to wire thing. They were the best team all season long,
they were never really threatened in the playoffs, and they
put an exclamation point on the season. Who's going to
the NBA finals next year? Well, I'm gonna give you

(26:33):
two teams that not only are really good now, but
I look at what's the likelihood they're going to be
able to upgrade in the offseason, Because you can't if
you're the same team.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
You're standing still.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
You're gonna get passed right, you need something, you'd be
able to be bold and make moves. Gotta be able
to go get Chris tops porzingis. If you're the Celtics,
you gotta be able to upgrade where you are right
now because if you didn't win the title, you're not
good enough. And I'll give you two teams, and the
first I'm gonna give you is Oklahoma City. Like I
would love to give you a big I'd love to
say Denver, I'd love to, but Oklahoma City is already

(27:05):
a terrific team. They're one of the youngest teams in
the NBA, and they have all kinds of money and
first round picks to deal with where they can go
get the missing pieces. They can go get a big
if they need. Right, I'm hearing a lot of Hey,
the Nicks could lose Hertenstein to the to the Thunder,
they could give them a lot of money. When you're
that good, you're that young, and you have money and

(27:26):
first round picks, I know they're gonna get better in
the offseason. So you know it's a loaded Western conference,
But right now, give me the Thunder to go to
the NBA finals next year.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Look at you run in with a squad that's about
ten to one. I'll say, after being challenged in great
adversity that they were humbled a bit. The Minnesota Timberwolves
run it back and finish the job to get to
the NBA Finals. They are currently sitting at nine to one.
I think Anthony Edwards needed to go through, you know,

(27:57):
the trial by fire. You've got the defensive allwards there.
The Western Conference is gonna be a pain in the
ass because these other teams are getting better.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Memphis is gonna get healthy, uh and get back into it.
We'll see what New Orleans does with Brandon Ingram and company.
Sacramento was good in spurts uh, so we'll see what
they are and then the young and plucky Houston Rockets
will have something to say. Look, Wenby's still time off.
If he couldn't get an extra win in his rookie year,
I don't know what they're doing in the offseason to
suddenly give them any juice. But give me Minnesota out

(28:27):
of the West in the East, you're not gonna like it.
You're not gonna like it alls.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
But they are positioned as good as they are now
to get even better in the offseason because they are
armed with a with a with a contract. They missed
to show they have draft picks to dangle for more depth.
They don't need a star, they just need to get
a tiny bit deeper. And I'm telling you would have
happened this year, but they got hurt all the way through.

(28:55):
And I'm telling you the Knicks are going to the
finals next year. Give me the Knicks and the thunder.
Look whether I Julie, the Knicks evolved into a team
where they were nova Nicks led right. So now where
does Julius Randall fit coming back after you saw this
huge run? Now, great, you get a talented player like
that coming back.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Is he going to fit with the offense? Is he
gonna fit with what they do?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Because clearly it's Brunson, it's heart, and it's Stevencenzo and
then you have the support players. Now, maybe he fits,
but if not, he is a huge chip that you
can trade who's a good player that makes money that
you're gonna be able to go get if hey, if
Minnesota wants to get rid of Karl Anthony Towns, okay,
or if you need to go get a couple of
depth pieces, because now you've seen that, all right, We've

(29:36):
seen that we have a really good three that we like,
led by Brunson and the other two Nova Knicks. Hey,
maybe we just need to go get a couple of
depth pieces now so when injuries start happening, we can
play more than four guys at a time. So the
fact that the Knicks have that, and they have Randall's
contract and they have the Sicks they can dangle. Yeah,
they can really get better. Things are going well for them.

(29:57):
They become a destination. Give me Knicks and the thund
during the NBA Finals next year.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
If that happens, I'm cheering for Chatton Hart and Stein.
Former Nick does great. Okay, he's not He's not a
thunder yet. He's not a thunder. You to stop putting
him there, jerk. You did in your analysis of what
they're gonna do, and you that's how you were trying
to say, they then embrace the fun of the grimace
erra man, come on, dude, right fifteen to one, right

(30:22):
now for you. When I was wandering around like, ah,
the Sixers might do something that'll be interesting, but they
still have to to roll through plus eighteen hundred. We
look at the Bucks. They're ten to one. That's Doc Rivers.
I'm back to ance, so I end up going back
to the chalk. I say to beat the man. You
gotta beat the man. The Celtics are there again.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Exit Out about a Fresca exit swollen dome, so I
like to show with Mike Carbon. Hey, look right now,
I am completely down for a Nick Celtics Eastern Conference final.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
That looks good.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Dah.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Now the Pacers at forty to one are moderately interesting.
Maybe arrived at year too soon. I think.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I think forty to one was the odds that nem
Part's three was gonna go, and it actually.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Hey, that's future Canadian Olympia nemhr Chuir.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Exit Out about a Fresco exit swalling down. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carbon coming up next.
What has become a crazy story has evolved into now
one that's kind of cringe worthy when you think about it,
and it involves one of the best coaches the NFL
has ever seen.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
PM Pacific.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
I hate you Smith.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
You know, all I did was tell you the truth.
We're gonna get to We're gonna get to a big
NFL story in a second. What did you do? Now?
What happens? Let me tell you what happens when you
want to make fun of the Grimace era.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
You put that evil on me.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
This Oh no, no, so while uh WHI, while we
were in a break, Frostburg's talking to me, going, oh,
your Grimace era is over. Man, it's over. I go,
it's fine. He's still up there on the on the
Twitter page. McDonald's no, it's over. They had to win.
It's done. It's over. The Grimace Era is over. And
as I'm watching, the Dodgers have two on and one

(32:15):
out in the seventh inning against the Rockies, and uh,
it's over. I said, you embraced the Grimace era last night. Man,
Remember you were saying how great it was. And the
Dodgers scored seven runs in the ninth. If you go
against the Grimace Era, things are gonna go bad for you.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
It's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
And and and as soon as I said that, hey
centerfielder makes a dive and catch on a Place said,
you see that right there, and Forestburg said, are you kidding?
Otani's coming up with two on and two out like
he's gonna get out. I go, you just thumbed your
nose with the Grimace era. Otani's gonna strike out looking,
And you know what just happened. Show, Hey, Otani struck
out looking.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
To end the time. This is war, my runs.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I told you you do not go you you you
deal and and and mess with the Grimace era of
your your own pays and your own speed. Man like
you don't do that. You want to throw catch to win.
Look what happens. Look how bad it was already.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
The Grimace era is over. You don't have to put
the evil on other people.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's not over.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
You're the one that I did not prompt you by saying,
oh the Grimace.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
No, you just said, oh it's over. It's over. It's over.
You embraced it last night, you scored seven and don't
have to.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Take out your Dodger voodoo dolls start stabbing it.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah no, no, to stab a dodger food in this
situation did not happen. I quote the late Great lou
Reid Off the album New York and the song straw Man.
Just remember spitting in the wind comes back at you
twice as hard Yep telling his straw man going straight
to the devil. So be careful.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
You want, you want to play with the Grimace era,
you do that at your own at your own risk.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
And look what happened to you, Frostburg. I just listen.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
There's still time you can repent, because it's only the
eighth inning. If you want to re embrace the Grimace era.
The Dodgers can still win this game.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Well we killed them off. So how you how do
you play on? Bringing that up?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
You you did? Man said you may never win another game.
Dodgers may go, you may you may go over the
rest of the season. Well, I mean he had a
good run.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's still a run. The Grimace era is still it's baseball.
It's not football. Where Okay, it was a big, great
run for a month or something. No, no, this this happened.
It's okay, And look what's happening now, Lead off batter
for the Rockies, double down the line.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
This is what's happening now. I'm telling you have a chance.
Right now.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You gotta go back and say Grimace I'm sorry, and
and and I'm sorry. I said your error is over,
your error is still going. It's still the Grimace era,
and maybe things will turn around for you. If not,
I'm not responsible for what happens to night and then
the Dodger Rocky game.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
You know, I can't.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
I can't get a can't get a first base umpire
to call a check swing, you know, every single night, Mike.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
It's got nothing to do with Grimace. If the Dodgers
can't beat the damn Rockies.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Well there there is that point that needs to be
made there, especially when it is his Rancho Kucamonga Knight
where the minor leaguers lined up in Reverence to watch
a bullpen warm up session by Clayton kershot tonight.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
I had his start, Yeah, so in the banner he
hitting ninety good.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
They got him back, right when when when Buehler goes
on the il for a while just to shut him
down and and uh get him.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Back, that was the a bit dejected. Yeah, he needed
a time out.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, But I'm telling you, man, I mean, this shows
you how real the Grimace effect is. I said, you
didn't say Otani's gonna strike out, looking and Otani struck
out looking.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I mean, there's no there's no I can't. It can't
be any more clearer than that, right, there can't be
any more.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Clear, Tycher. Just in case you missed, whoa what are
you doing?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Man? Nogat?

Speaker 4 (35:45):
That's final?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Now you know what's gonna happen now after they get watched.
Dave Roberts is gonna get fired. The Dodger are gonna
trade Otani or Tani's gonna demand, Hey, I need to
get paid now instead.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Of ten years.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I don't know what I was thinking. I need thirty
eight million dollars by tomorrow. I'm not gonna play where
do you see what happens?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Man? You want to you want you want to test
the You want to test Grimmace like that, you test grimm.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Who's gonna have that tweet first? Jj Reddick to the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Oh, Jane Moore will have that tweet first. He's gonna
be the one.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Do you think he breaks the news when the Lakers
do hire a head coach? You think it's Jane Moore
that on Twitter that says what happened? Do you think
that's what that's what goes on?

Speaker 4 (36:23):
It's we've hit rock Bottom.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I like to.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Announce Reddick with Bonnie Williams as the next head coach
of the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Oh boy, oh my goodness, does he know it in
a funny voice? Yeah, bring back his buddy Hackett reference you.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
No, No, he would do it like Christopher Walking, because
he has a pretty good Christopher Walking impression.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
So he would do it like he was one of
the first to go down that highway.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, he would do Christopher walking reading good Night Moon
on the Simpsons.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Good Night Room, good Night Moon.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah there, good night cow jumping over the moon.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And it canceled.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
But I'm telling you, watch what happens with Frostburg. Now
you made fun of the Grimace era. You canceled it.
You canceled Grimace, you canceled Christmas, you canceled everything.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Now watch what happens to you? Watch it out.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Ty sure, just in case you've missed, reload.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Not gonna be responsible, Not gonna be responsible, man, not
happening coming up next.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Hey, just to show you the Karmeer. We had to
do that, but we got that big NFL story on
the way next. This is Fox.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
I reloaded.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Oh
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