Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Not only is Tye Shirt playing this song, He's wearing
a Tears FORFEARCE T shirt tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
He's all in.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
He's gonna be fired in five hours. Who wants his job?
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
He's fired.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
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Friend Mike Harmon Jason, I like, dude, I walk in
and you're wearing a Tears of Fears T shirt.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
It's like, come on, man, purple.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
He may be wearing a Yankees T shirt when when
I come in, I want to wear it's purple.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, it's a purple. Come on, he's embracing the Grimace era.
You're gonna give him crap.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
No, oh no, no, that's exactly what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
He doesn't even know what grimm. He doesn't go to McDonald,
doesn't know what Grimace is. Idea.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
He's a cultured man. He thinks he thinks Grimace is
a rapper. He doesn't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Like there might be a guy, you know, grim with
an assets a dollar sign, right like grim As Grimmas.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah that's me. Wait, I got a patent. That's a
pretty good No. I thought that's the stuff you put
between tiling when you do like a like a kitchen
or you know.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
That's that's Groudis. Oh right, yeah, Grimace, I know that's
all right. I wrote a book called Growding without Pouting One.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
But we're going to get to the Lakers hiring JJ
Redda coming up in a couple of minutes. But a
big trade went down today in the NBA, and it
kind of falls off of what we mentioned last night.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Come on, man, man, Mike, and I gave.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
You our picks for the NFL for the NBA Finals
next year, and I told you give me the Knicks
and the Thunder And I said why because both teams
as good as they are.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Knicks go New York, Go New York. CO Go New York.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
But the Knicks and the Thunder both have something in common.
They both have money to spend, They have contracts they
can trade, and they have first round picks that they
can move.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
As a result, the Thunder have what thirty next yeah?
Six years?

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, I say they have five this year, seven, next year, eight,
the year after that.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's yeah, they have the they have the wherewithal to
do that.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
And that's why I like the Thunder and the Thunder
made their first move and their offseason makeover today, a
straight up trade of Josh Giddy for Alex Caruso. Alex
Caruso who, for some reason trends on Twitter more than
Lebron does. Alex Caruso trends every single night. And this
is this is a trade that goes down. You go, wow,
Giddy's like like he's twenty one and he's a really

(02:53):
good player in shoots.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, he's a thirty year old role player.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Wow, this trade, this trade on this is why I
love this deal. This is a deal where it can
be the Bulls making a gangster move for a twenty
one year old kid that maybe can be a superstar
and it's the Oklahoma City Thunder going. We got a
guy that we have identified as one of the missing
pieces for us to get to the NBA Finals and win.

(03:17):
Even though Caruso's thirty years old, he's gonna get a
lot of money and he wants an extension. The thunder said,
they want him right. This is why it works for
both of them, because, yeah, you can say, for Oklahoma
City we gave up a young player, Okay, you did,
But the reason you're able to trade Giddy is for
a couple reasons. One, he had the issues, the legal
issues all over the course of the last year, and
the reports of the relationship with a minor that went

(03:39):
on and then kind of went away, So you know,
they're probably worried a little bit about his decision making
in the future. But mainly what happened was there wasn't
any room for You're like, why did the Knicks make
that big trade for anunobian trade. Not only are j
Barrett but Emmanuel Quickly he's one of the best point
guards off the bench in the league, one of the
best six men of the year. Yeah, quickly, he's a
really good point guard. But with Jalen Brunson's ascension. He's

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going to play forty minutes a night. There's not a
lot of minutes out there. And Giddy's role with the
team got less and less as a season went on.
He wound up coming off the bench in the playoffs.
He had a down year compared to the year before.
So Oklahoma City's going, okay, Yeah, he's really talented, but
there's no we don't have.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Room for him.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
What we need is a two way guard who's going
to give us a little bit of offense. Two time
defensive first All first NBA Defensive Team in Alex Caruso,
and I guarantee you he's a guy. When the Thunder
finished the season, they wrote down three names on a
chalkboard and said, if we can get two of these guys,
we're winning the tamp We're going to the finals next
year and we're winning. And I guarantee you Alex Caruso's

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name was on there, and that Hey, it's okay, we'll
trade you a young up and coming kid who's twenty
one that may have some star potential. We're okay with
making that move because he's one of the guys we identified.
And this is a big day from tellents why I
picked them to go to the finals. I knew they'd
be able to improve. I didn't think the trade would
happen today. But hey, I made good things happen. Hey,
it's sagrimas era. I made good things happen for the

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thunder Mike.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah, bgest thing you know for me and then you know,
I'll put my Chicago hat off to the side here
is that you got a front office that has really
eliminated anybody that didn't come in with them. They are
down to two players that were there upon arrival, but
in Alex Kruzom and you mentioned defensive player of the
year one first team won second team, top eleven vote

(05:21):
getter for Defensive Player of the Year the back to
back years, coming off a career high scoring uh just
over ten points per game nearly what one set one
point seven one point eight steals per game pretty much
every year for the last four and Glue Guy. Forgiddo,
it's a question of all right, we like you, but
we're we're looking to push forward now. Our window is

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now with this squad, and Kruzho is gonna only cost him.
The rumor is about four years eighty million dollars, which
in today's NBA is nothing for a guy that's going
to give you what he does on both ends of
the floor. Now, as for the Bulls full rebuild, you
basically have have Kobe White and all expectation DeRozan signing

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somewhere else, depending what he wants to do monetarily, and
might have convinced him to show up in Los Angeles
last night while he was hanging out with everybody at
the Kendrick Lamar show. You've got Zach Lavine. They're talking
to half the league about trading him away. So pretty
much it's Kobe White and a giant question mark. As

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you might as well have Riddler suits running around as
it were, because I mean, what the rest of that
roster's gonna look like? Who the hell knows. But you
bring in giddy twenty one years old, you hope he
matures from whatever's going on. However, the levels of truth
are in the off court stuff. And as a player,

(06:46):
right he brings a lot to the table. Can't shoot
for anything. He's one of those guys that you have
the I'll slump off and see if you can hit
this shot kind of guy. At this point in his career,
so a lot to work on in that regard, but
certainly highly regarded. As he entered the league a couple
of years ago, scoring was down to twelve to three

(07:07):
a game. This year didn't add a ton elsewhere. You're
looking at about six rebounds, about five assists. So he's
a good passer. But it's the Caruso losses in Chicago.
I know it did not go over very well, particularly
because there weren't any of those aforementioned nine hundred first
round draft picks associated That was the biggest part of it, Jason,

(07:29):
I mean, to be honest with you, it was the
all right, it's cruiser for giddy? How many picks did
they get? And all day it was refreshed and more
and more, the cacophony of voices out of Chicago going,
what the hell they have all of these picks that
they couldn't get a damn one of them?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, you think they could have got at least one
simply because they know they're gonna pay Alex Caruso a
lot of money. Normally when hey, we got him, we
know we got to pay him. Hey guess what, well,
you know you got to give us something else. So yeah,
they probably could have gotten a first round pick, but
I think it when it when it came down to it,
looked as as as good a prospect as Getty might be. Uh,

(08:05):
he's still someone you kind of is he really going
to be there? We know what Caruso is, We know
he's really good. Bottom line for the Bulls is that, Hey,
you know they weren't Alex Caruso away from winning the
title like it, So it's time to break it up
and move on and know Zach Lavine is going to
be next.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
They're going to give him to the Lakers. You know
that's gonna happen. Oh, it's gonna.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
I mean, look, clearly, the GM will give you anything
you want. All you got to do is call he's agiously.
Operators are standing by. But but again it goes back
to the trade deadline and what we've been hearing about
Crusoe and you joke that he's been trending a lot, Well,
he has, because we've had little nuggets along the way

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of all these different things that the Bulls were offered
along the way that they rebuffed, including multiple first round
picks at one point, like really, well, I bet well
Here's the other thing too, is I don't think now
you're close to having to re sign this guy and
on Giddy pretty fast. I don't think this deal came
out of a vacuum though, in which it was hey,
here's the offer. These are the only two teams that

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are talking. I bet you Giddy had value around the league,
and and they were they were trying to figure out
exactly what they had to give up and everything else.
And the Bulls probably is okay, you know, we you know,
and and and the thunder going, Okay, there's some interest.
He's a twenty one year old and same thing interesting
in Alex Caruso as well. And I'm sure because it
gets to this way at the end of deals, it's okay,

(09:29):
you know what, let's not mess around, let's let's do
the deal. Do we think that maybe we could get
a little bit more out of it, Yeah, we probably could.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
But is this gonna screw us?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
So they're gonna say, well, if you want a first
round pick, we gotta have something else.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
And then suddenly things get different.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Just gets three years from now, well, we don't care,
you know, and just pick on. But sometimes I think
teams get a little bit Hey, No, let's not screw around.
That's why I guarantee he was a name. This is
the guy we gotta go get. I don't care what
else we do. This is a guy we gotta get
and we feel we can do it, and we can
give up get it great, let's do it. But we

(10:05):
could probably know, don't mess around, don't make this something
where suddenly they're gonna call us back. Then they wind
up talking to the seventy six ers or they talk
to the Lakers. No, we can do it. Let's do
it right now. So yeah, I agree with that they
probably could, but I think in the end it was
this was the guy we really want. We think Alex Caruso.
Think about this. We think Alex Caruso is a guy
that's gonna get us to the NBA Finals and probably

(10:27):
win a championship.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
But think about what he is.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
As an agitator, as a guard right the defensive side.
As much as we mock it oftentimes during the year,
how much have we talked about the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
This guy plays defense sporadically.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
This guy he needs to get yelled at, like in
front of a camera by his.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Coach to respond all those things.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Cruso is just a guy that goes and you know,
we watched him here in Los Angeles. He became a
folk hero. We watched him. You know, I did a
lot of games with the Bulls. I mean he had
his own little cheering sections or whatever like that. He's
just one of those glue guys. And if you've got
enough offense, which they do, and you can add another
guy that's going to frustrate the hell out of opposing guards.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I mean, think about beginning. You're already thinking.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
About him versus Jalen Brown. Next, next spring, next summer. Right,
I mean you're already advancing the narrative to that next round,
and you got a guy who who's going to be
able to give you those minutes and get after it.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
So yeah, I guess I have to buy another Cruiser Jersey.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I love this.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I love this trade for both teams. I love the
Bulls know they have to start over and the Thunder
may have put themselves in the finals.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
So dude, we've been starting over since ninety eight. That's true. Hey, Hey, Hey,
welcome to.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Hey the New York Nick slash New York Jets slash
New York Mets have entered the chat. Mike Harmon starting
over since nineteen ninety eight. That should be your slogan,
Chicago Bulls starting over since nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
We had that one year with Derrick Rose still hanging
on to that, that one year, that one magical year
what they call him the diminutive Nick Ruse.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
When you got the Rose, you got to the East
Finals and last to the heat. Yeah, it was hey
two thousand and seven. Yes, what a sweet time that
was all those years. Time now for the Derek Rose
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Speaker 7 (12:16):
As soon as you said that comparison, my knee started hurting.
It's a final in Birmingham on Fox TV. The Saint
Louis Cardinals held on to beat San Francisco six to five.
Brendan Donovan of the Cards from Alabama had three hits,
three RBIs, including a homer. The late games in San
Diego top of the fourth inning Padres four to one
over the Brewers. Everything else was daytime, including the game

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at Yankee Stadium, Baltimore over New York seventeen to five.
Anthony san Tender a three run homer. The O's have
homered in nineteen straight games. Aaron Judge did hit his
twenty seventh home run of the season. He did not
play last night after being hit by a pitch on
the hand.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I think Al Bumbrie actually homered for the Orioles today. Yeah, well,
Cedric Mullins did, so you're not that far off. Dodgers
five to three winners at Colorado, Shoheo Tani with a
leadoff homer, his twenty first of the season. Solo shots
for Will Smith and Freddie Freeman. Tampa Bay in a
ten inning game, won at Minnesota seven to six, even

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though the Twins had tiedy with four runs bottom of
the ninth on two homers.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
The Rays that hit two homers top of the knife
wins for Arizona and Cleveland. Wins for Kansas City and Houston,
which won at the White Sox five to three today.
The White Sox record now twenty and fifty six. The
College World Series Finals start Saturday, best of three Number
one Tennessee against number four ranked Texas A and M
The Copa America Soccer tournament began tonight on FS one

(13:42):
Full House in Atlanta, Argentina two nothing winner over Canada.
The Americans opener is Sunday against Bolivia on Fox TV.
Mexico will place Saturday night on FS one against Jamaica.
This tournament is in the US this time, not South America,
with the games on Fox F one.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
And at the Euro.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
Soccer Tournament, Spain defeated Italy, won nothing, out shooting him
twenty to four. Denmark tied England one to one. Serbia
tied Slovenia won one today with a goal in the
final seconds the ninety fifth minute. Tomorrow on Fox TV
France versus Netherlands three pm Eastern time. Stanley Cup Game
six is tomorrow WNBA wins for Chicago and New York.

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The Lakers new head coach is JJ Reddick, with a
reported four year contract. He's been a TV analyst. He
retired as a player just three years ago and has
never coached in the league. Reddick averaged sixteen points a
game for the La Clippers in four seasons with them
through twenty seventeen. The Bulls are reportedly trading guard Alex
Caruso to Oklahoma City for Josh Giddy. Trades cannot be

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announced until July sixth.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Back to you, thanks a bunch, Steve O The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Now look elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Let me just say this, I want to admit my
bold prediction that the Lakers would be talking to Mani
Willlliams today. Yeah, did not come true.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Right, Well, I mean it was a good try, and
I mean I guess in the end, you know, they
really needed they finally decided they really needed to accelerate
that time.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
No, they didn't look because as we said, yes, as
I said yesterday, hey, if they really wanted JJ Reddick,
why haven't they hired the guy. Well, and they offered
him the job this morning and JJ Reddick took it.
So maybe Rob Polinka listens to the show.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
But if they really had this in waiting the whole time,
and they said, well, we got to give the Celtics
a day or two, really, the.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Laker Stephen a wet time or two.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
The Lakers said that we got to give the Celtics
a day. Really, that's they said, we got to get.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
My But they haven't had their parades so it's still
on their time, mister hand uh, and yesterday was juneteenth,
but look all of that and says, all right, let's
go Thursday morning.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
But let me let me just say this. Even though
my my bold prediction was wrong, right, it got it wrong.
Do you think there wasn't even a check in with
Monny Williams after yesterday? Hey, MANI would you be interested?
Maybe it's hey, it's too soon. I just got let go.
I got sixty five million dollars coming to me. I
don't know, I can't you know, It's just I can't
do it right now. And the Lakers said we have
to move on, and Monty Williams said, I understand. Do

(16:06):
you think there wasn't at least a check in on
him to see what money was thinking the last twenty
four hours?

Speaker 4 (16:10):
I don't know what are the Futon insiders have to
say about that check in?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I think little check in maybe to save a little
bit of face and my bull prediction. Maybe they talked
to him a little bit. It's that time, tiny conversation.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
But yes, JJ Redick is the new head coach of
the Lakers. Is it going to matter? That answer? Coming
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Speaker 3 (17:21):
Where it took a while.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Lil dalliance with Danny Hurley that didn't work out No,
But now the.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Lakers have their head coach.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
According to numerous reports, Jj Reddick, who we thought was
gonna be the head coach in the very beginning, is
going to be the new head coach of the Lakers,
likely getting a four year deal. He will come in
to coach Lebron and AD and now the Lakers have
their guy.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
So you say to me, Jason.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Anything change what you think with JJ Reddick and the
Lakers and how they got him. And I'm gonna tell
you no, he's not gonna be terrible.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
He's not gonna be great. The Lakers are gonna be
the same.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
They're gonna JJ Redick is not gonna come in and
still a culture.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
He comes in, he's Lebron's buddy. Lebron likes this because
this means he can kind of be the coach of
the team. Right Like if the guy who's my friend,
that was kind of my peer, but I was way
better than him. If he comes in coach, that's kind
of like me being able to coach the team.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
So yeah, I'd like. I'm sure Lebron likes that.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
In fact, that's the one big positive here is that
with the Lakers hiring JJ Reddick, I am sure Lebron
James is going to stay. Whatever you hear, you're gonna
hear very very few things now about Lebron moving on
and playing elsewhere. This is a hire that I'm sure
Lebron approves of because he likes JJ Reddick and like
I said, he can now be the head coach at
the same time. So that's the one big positive is

(18:42):
that this is going to keep Lebron in LA. But
in the end it's really gonna be the same because
Lebron and a d are gonna do whatever they want
to and and Ad has come in and kind of,
you know, not falling into Lebron's spell, but they kind
of both act towards coaching the same way. They both
know and they've had enough with a guy like Darvin
Ham and talk about it after a you know, they're
not guys who are gonna come in and set cultures themselves.

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They're gonna do their own thing and they're gonna expect
everybody just fall in line behind them and then suddenly, look, magically,
we're gonna play for a title. Like that's just kind
of who they are. So to think Reddick's gonna come
in and you know, he's gonna come in with kind
of a hard ass mentality because that's kind of the
guy he is. Is that gonna work in the NBA?
Probably not man, especially when half the lead half the
team is gonna say I was a better player than

(19:24):
you are. That's a better player than you have, a
better player. So it's gonna be difficult for him to
cut through. Not that it's gonna be terrible, because he
is a great basketball mind. He does know, he does
have the cachet of playing with these guys. But for
the Lakers to think it's suddenly gonna be great, it's
not gonna be great. It's not gonna be terrible. They
will kind of be the same. I don't know that
Reddick can get them to play better defensively. There were
other coaches out there to do that. Money Williams could

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have done that. Bringing back Frank Vogel could have done that.
So that's gonna be the big thing. But for the Lakers,
I feel like, yeah, they got Reddick. It's fun for us,
it's a great headline. It's gonna be fun for when
Reddick and Lebron coach the team. Who's the real coach
here on the play, who's drawing up the play? But
for the kind of going to be where next year
is going to look like this year, which looked a
lot like last year, which looked a lot like the
year before that.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Meet the New Boss, same as the old boss, get
a little who rhetoric as you in a little townshend,
then Adultrey while we're at it, and don't forget the
old docs there. But yeah, it's the I'm curious right,
obviously a long, long tenured guy, well respected for his opinions,
and since he doesn't actually have to defend anybody, he's

(20:27):
just telling you how to defend. He's telling you what
to do and run in plays. I think that's okay, right,
saying hey, I once cooked you and scored thirty on you.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
It don't matter now. I'm the guy in the suit
and tie.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
If he's gonna wear a suit and die, he may
be in a sweatsuit before it's all He maybe look
like George Raveling running around before it's all said and done.
But the point is that you've got Lebron now the
meetings with Anthony Davis and trying to make sure that
everything's cool there, because there were reports that maybe Davis
wasn't so excitable about him coming in and would have

(21:01):
preferred Barrego or one of these other candidates, Sam Cassell,
whose name keeps floating out as a would be assistant coach,
Scottie Brooks, Rajon Rondo, Jared Dudley some of the names
I've seen in multiple articles. So curious as to how
that staff rounds out Jason. But for the moment, you know,
you get a couple of years with Lebron and then

(21:23):
they decide are you the guy to lead into the
next generation or do they cut you off a fat
check to go away too.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I mean, I really want all the huddles micd up
so he Jji Reddick saying, Okay, here's we're gonna do.
Where you get the bullet gunna IO play for a
D Lebron, you come off ball and that's where And
Lebron says, nah, coach, what if we did this? What
if you ran the io play for me and ad
was on the block and I could either do a
give and go or run some kind of play where

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I could either take it to the hoop or I
could pass.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
To a D. Yeah, yeah, we'll do that. All right,
let's do that. Let's do that.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
I mean, that's shaking off, shaking his head thing like
you did with Darvin Ham a few times.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Towards the end, it's.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Gonna get to the players, gonna be like star Lord. See,
but your plan sucks so let me do the plan
and it's gonna wind up being good.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Look at that you got, Braddy. I can't I really
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Like how many times Lebron gonna have his arm on
JJ reddicks shoulders when he's trying to tell him something
like yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks JJ. Don't worry whatever you
tell me. I'm gonna tell the guys whatever I feel like.
We get out on the court. It's okay.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I'm playing coach now. It's truly an interesting experiment.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
There's no there's no question about that, right, I see
people deride it. I don't know if he's going to
be a good coach, if he's going to be terrible.
I know there's not a lot they can do with
the roster unless folks want to come there on a
bargain basement discount right in terms of applying, because you
don't really have a bunch of trade assets.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
You just don't.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
So how do you run it back? Keep these guys
healthy and try to make another run in a loaded
Western conference? I mean, the decks stacked against him, even
independent of what his name actually was or his resume
for the that want to do all the counting of
how many years he's a coach or not. Lots of
folks fall into jobs that don't necessarily match up with

(23:07):
their degrees, even if they spend hundreds of thousands of
dollars to do it. This guy got paid millions of
dollars to be a basketball player.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
He might know something.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Hey, Lebron, we're gonna get a time out. No no, no,
no time out, No time out? Okay, no timeout, keep going,
keep going, but I really want to time out.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Okay, okay, no time That's fine, that's fine. Oh, it's
gonna be awesome, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Coming up next, an NFL story I never thought we'd do,
but oh boy, do we have to do it. That's
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Speaker 2 (23:38):
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Speaker 1 (23:46):
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(24:06):
a big day in the NFL. We get a lot
of stuff to get to Jason Cole stop and buy
in a few minutes. Now we're getting close as we
can to eighteen games. Maybe there's going to be a
quarterback salary cap implemented in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
We got a lot of big stuff happening.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
But I did not have Kelly Stafford, Matthew Stafford's wife
on my Bingo card for big NFL stories of the day.
I didn't have a mic you think I would because
Kelly Stafford makes news and talks a lot, says a
lot of things you think I would have it. Did
not have Kelly Stafford on my Bengo card.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, you know, we expect a lot of things off
season and chaos, and certainly you know you're always afraid
that the blotter is going to have a piece or
two that leave your head spinning.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
This one I had to sit back and just kind
of go why why I did a full spock? Why
but spock? Why spak spuck? Let me tell you what's happening.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
So Kelly Stafford, who does a podcast, you know, a
regular podcast.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
You've heard her name, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
From time to time she has said things that have
made news, made headlines which will go over coming up
in a few minutes. But she did a podcast that
got posted earlier today that might have been a little
too much TMI, as the kids say. The podcast is
called Off the Vine, and she was asked and started
talking about the beginnings of her relationship with Matthew Stafford,

(25:34):
when they started dating. I started dating in college. They've
been married since twenty fifteen. They have four daughters. Their
relationship is awesome. You've seen them. They do many things together.
It looks, it looks pretty, looks pretty great from the outside,
except Kelly Stafford wanted to tell a story about how
well I kind of things didn't weren't great with Matthew
Stafford and I. Well she did, Matthew didn't say Matthew

(25:56):
Stafford it with things weren't great with Matthew and I
in the very beginning. And when she was asked to elaborate,
like what do you mean, like what happened? This is
a story she told on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Wait, so was he trying to casually date and you
were all yeah girl.

Speaker 10 (26:09):
Anyways, long story short, wasn't that cute of a relationship.
At first? I hated him, I loved him.

Speaker 11 (26:13):
I dated the backup to piss him off, which yes,
he was like, that'll do it. He was a bad
boy too, like Matthew is so sweet and southern gentleman
and all stuff, and the backup was the complete oppice.

Speaker 10 (26:24):
Yeah yeah, ooh, and it upset him.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
So they lived in the same dorm because athletes.

Speaker 10 (26:28):
Lived in the same dorm, and he would see my
car there and so at one point he waited and
fought and followed me out and got in my car
and wouldn't get out, and he was.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Like this is so hot, Like this is work.

Speaker 10 (26:42):
Yeah, I was get out of my car and he
was like, I don't He's not right for you.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
And I was like, you know what, you can't tell
me that.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
First of all, I like how she says the backup.
I dated the backup. Well, I mean, you don't want
to name anything. Really got that done. But maybe she
called him the backup while they were dating.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Did they actually date like that. That's the other part
of this. I mean, as you said, we did. I
dated the backup to piss him off. Well, back up,
how you doing? I'm killing you know if you were
to take a poll of everybody on the call here,
what is date?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Listen, my real name is. I don't care. Back up,
I'm just calling you. Back up, just back back up. Matthew,
your backup. Not Matthew. I dated.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
So the backup like wouldn't even say his name, like
Tom or Jim or Jason or Mike.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
It's like TV player in that thing you do. So
now he doesn't actually have a name. It's yeah, bass Flair.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
So now there's all these pictures, like, hey, I think
this is the guy. It might have been there trying
to figure it out where maybe it was Stetson Bennett.
The dude's like forty. I mean, maybe she was dating
Stetson Bennett. But about that, gott to look and see
that Stet's and Bennett back up, Matthew Stafford when when
he was at Georgia could have been you never.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Know, I don't know stets and Bennett's had a had
a rough year. Blood don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
I don't know that he needs to catch any strays
on this way, So I like and then she starts giggling,
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, yeah, the backup, the back, and you know.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
And that's the second part of this is that this
it's stuff like this that I realize because it's such
a wow thing to me, Like when she says, oh,
I dated him and then Matthew said, oh, he's.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Not right for you, and she says, oh, I'm so.
I'm like, it's working. It's great.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I realized that I was never going to be good
at if I was invested or if I was okay
playing a game with this kind of drama. Right, Like,
I could never do this kind of drama in relationship
just because it didn't interest me that much. Right, Like
all the relationships I had when I was in my
early twenties, I would say that the serious ones I

(28:41):
would have if if the if the if the girl
I was dating, I could always tell, Okay, well, she
really likes drama and she really and I'm just I
just wasn't in for that. Like I just wasn't a
drama guy. I'm not someone saying, oh, I saw you
flirting with this dude, so now I'm gonna go flirt
with this girl, and I'm gonna make sure you hear
about I'm not that can.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
I like, I'm not gonna go through that.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I'm certainly not as hell gonna date somebody just to
say to get somebody else to notice me. I'm like,
I'm just gonna date that person if I don't like them,
if they're this, if they're that. I mean, I was
never at that level of relationship where I was saying, Okay,
I can be conniving. I want this, I want this girl.
I want a dater, and I just can't ask her out.
I gotta do all these different things, and I figure
out a way. No, I would ask her out. If

(29:22):
she said no, I'd say okay, or if I could
tell that we were dating and she wanted more drama
than I'm like, okay, you know, let's let's uh, let's
realize this is working and and and let's both move on.
I just wasn't that guy. When I hear stories like this,
I go, man, that's like an above the rim game
that that would have been played, where I'm just I'm
just a guy shooting threes. Right, I'm a guy. This

(29:43):
is like above the rim for people saying yeah, So
then I dated him. Then I made sure that he
knew that I went out because I made sure that
that he knew, because I had my best friend make
sure that he told his best friend that she was out.
I was out with so and so on a life,
and there was my car all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, I know, I make sure he sees my car.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
And then it's got a particular says, I love the backup.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Watch out for the backup. I was.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I was just and I could never have done into Wait, wait, hey, backup,
it's Kelly.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
We're going out Friday night. Hey, let's make sure we
go wherever Matthew and those other people are going to be.
I don't want to sit with him. Let just want
to make sure that you know, the team says together
at some point and you know, he sees me sitting
on your lap at a bar doing a shot. I
just want to make sure he sees that. Okay, great.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Meanwhile, he's just yelling I have a name as he
as he listens in the pillow, listen back crying.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Do you want me to be dating you? Calling you
backup or dating some other guy calling his name? I'd
rather say, okay, great?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Are they using me just to make him jealous?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
But yes?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Is that a problem. What is it?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
What is Susan Sarandon saying to nukle loose when when
when they're having sex and he he calls she calls
out crash, and he goes, you just said crash. She said, honey,
would you rather me be doing it to you calling
out his name or doing it to him calling out
your name? He goes, ah, I got your point. Listen,
back up, I can go better. I could date your backup. Okay,
I can go to the third string. That guy's kind

(31:08):
of cute. Okay, I could date him that I could.
You don't need to be here. Back up, I could
go whatever. And he's third stringer. He's thirteen, right, you're backup,
he'd be thirteen, and that's Matthew. All right, back up thirteen, Matthew.
That's how it'll work.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, no, it's It was one of those. I had
to listen to it a couple of times. Yeah, and
the excitement again, Oh yeah, it's like all right, so
uh gamesmanship one oh one.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Likewise, I didn't have any anything of this man, No,
none of that.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
I was boring.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I was once on a the only time I ever
appeared on one of those awful websites. Was when they
were making fun of fantasy guys doing columns or whatever,
and they said, which one of these is least likely
to find steady love or even momentary though all three
of us were married. But my, uh my cherub face

(32:02):
as they called it in the article, uh me led
me to be unlovable. But I was already married.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
But it's it's here unlovable but I'm already married. I'll
can tell you.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Does it doesn't mean I was lovable, but I was married.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know, one one a story about like the drama
one I knew, right, I remember I dated this one
girl in college.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
She's I dated backup. No, I dated this one girl
in college.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
And the very beginning of the relationship was great, like
we were like we loved each other. It was a
fantastic and you know, you talk about your exes a
little bit. And she said, oh, my ex yeah, we
you know, we shouldn't have been together. We should have
we should have broken up a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I knew.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
And she said, you know, at the end of our relationship,
it was crazy because it was like we would go
to a mall and I would find a way to
to just get at him, and I would say, all right,
let's have a contest. Let's see who can if if
if you start at one end of the mall and
I start the other, who can who can get the
most phone numbers from walking from one side of the mall.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
To the other.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
And I was like, wow, okay, that's a sure sign
that you should break up. Okay, So she tells me
the story. I'm sure she forgot about it. I'm sure
she forgot about it.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Right, this is the beginning. Everything's great.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Like a couple of months later, it's like three or
four months later, whatever it was, I forget. Now it's
been a long time, but I remember that near the end,
when things weren't going like this is crazy, you know,
I'm sure we're gonna break up at some point soon.
We actually were in the mall and she goes, hey,
let's have a contest. You go, We'll start at one
end of the mall. I started the other, and we
see you can get the most phone numbers. And at
that mom I want to turn and say, you know

(33:30):
you told me that story about your ex boyfriend a
few months ago, right, you know you tell me that story.
That was the moment when I knew, Yeah, okay, we're
gonna break up. This is you know what, It's not
gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
But in the ten years we've been doing the show,
I could have said something similar to you and you
wouldn't have heard me because you were too busy composing
a tweet. I think she was banking on the same
thing that you weren't paying attention.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
But I mean, what were you gonna do.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
You're gonna pull off the gun show and wear a
tank tob I mean, I gotta just say, I mean,
that's an that's an unfair game deplay.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I'm here in my Mets hat and Mets jersey. I mean,
I'm kinda I'm kind of coming at things from a
disadvantage here.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
I'm even wearing the Doc goodin. I'm telling him I'm
ready to party. I'm not getting anything.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I mean, like this is before this was like before
cell phone, so you had to like get a piece
of paper and write stuff down. I'm sitting here, going
should I just do it and then like just have
different people right, just going to go do me favor,
write your name and and any kind of phone number
on here, just so I could walk away and feel like, yeah,
I got like seventeen phone numbers, So you think you're
so think you're so hot, except I knew at the
end I would walk away and show her that and

(34:35):
she would have like three legitimate ones where the guy
was gonna call her or she would call the guy. Right,
I got, like, what they're gonna do that when I
know that's what she's going to do. So you know,
we're just this is and I think we I don't
think we dated much longer after that. It might have
been a week or two. I don't even know, but
I knew it that I said, yeah, I'm not up
for that kind of drama. I'm up for that kind
of challenge of doing that. There's certain drama that I'll

(34:57):
I'll go through that I'll be okay, I understand, but
they're certain parts I'm like, Oh, you're just creating it.
You just it's just you just invel You're not You're not.
Don't just like drama. You take yourself and dip your
whole body into a cauldron of drama and just walk
out of it. Like the girl from the Ring, she
just comes out of the well, all full and dripping
with drama all the way.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
I'm like, oh, my goodness. But I'll tell you what
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I attracted a lot of girls when I was younger
that really had drama situations going on and want and
wanted the relationship to be filled with drama, to have
drama with us, drama outside of it. I just wasn't
that guy like this to me. I'm like this, I
wouldn't have made it like a day after something like this,
Oh you're dating that guy. Okay, well, day to make

(35:41):
you jealous. You're dating that guy and you're probably having
sex with him, So what's gonna make me suddenly want
to say, oh no, no, oh we should be together.
I'm no, not me. And I'm sure she would have
looked at me like what you know, your charms don't
work on me, These crazy drama charms don't work.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Oh look at me. I'm walking away. I mean I'll
go cry.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
And it's like, look, we could get together one more time,
one more time. I have a couple of ideas of
how to make this one really memorable outside.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I really it's a when when I when I hear
stories like this, and it's this whole plan that she had.
I mean, this plan, I'm gonna date the backup and
I'm gonna make sure he sees my car park. They're
gonna make sure that, hey, he comes and sees me
and says, I need you. He wanted to casual date.
I had to make sure we went from casual dating
to him wanting to be with me and all I'm like, this.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Is like, I mean, why don't we keep doing this
to him? Though?

Speaker 6 (36:33):
Right?

Speaker 4 (36:33):
What if she did the the other one where it
was Matthew's having problems with all the younger players.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, well, look that's it.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
They're all on their phones and like he's an old man, and.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
That's the other part of this, right, you know, not
to get too hip deep into relationship. But is this
something that that should have been, something that just stays
between the two of you, or is your story and
not something that you tell out loud that embarrasses your husband.
I mean, really, this is one of those stories. I'm like, Yeah,
if I'm Matthew, I go, really you had to tell
that story. You really had to tell that story.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'd be really.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
I mean, I get it look kind of desperately in here,
you know, I get that Kelly Stafford wants her own
bit of stardom. And and this is because you can
see because she weighs in on stuff very publicly, where hey,
sometimes hey, she makes a great point. Other times it's
this is more Matthew's thing, right, like just just you know,
for certain reasons, Like I always say, whenever significant others

(37:23):
get involved, it's a different dynamic, a different part of
the relationship, different things. I understand the frustrations that go
on from a significant other, but you understand that a
lot of times you're not helping when you say something, yeah,
it doesn't really help the cause of the athlete. And
like here I'm saying, what is it is this? This
is a way for you to get clicks.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I don't I don't think I would want that story
out there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Now everybody knows she
was dating the backup quarterback just to get you mad.
Wow okay, yes, oh and you fell for it. She
reeled you in and then and her plan to get
you worked. And I get that you can laugh about
it now because it's ten years later, twelve years later,
and you have four kids, but they fun. Matthew Stafford,
I'm sitting back going yes, it was a whole plan

(38:05):
apparently okay, and now the whole world knows it. All right, Greg,
that's that's gonna be a it's gonna be great when
next time I go to I'm glad that mini camp
is over. And maybe people forget about this by the time,
but you know, people are gonna come to a training
camp and there's gonna be a sign in his locker
with a picture of her car from when she was
driving in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Someone's going to that or every backup that was there, Georgia.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
All the picture, all the backups, even Stetson Bennett, They're
all gonna be in the lock all the backup quarterbacks
pictures in his locker. Everywhere he goes, that's gonna be there.
He's like, got you realize that's gonna be day one
of training camp for me.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
He's gonna be that.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
But like, there's the rampifications of this are huge. I mean,
you may have affected many lives. Not to mention there's
gonna be some awkward as hell thing the next barbecue
they have, or it becomes a talking So how did
you trick your guy?

Speaker 3 (38:56):
How'd you Well, here's what I had to do. We
are at opposite ends.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Of the mall, and I said, let's see who can
get more phone numbers from walking one end.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
To the necks.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
And I was able to find the guy I liked
and I got his phone number and that's how we
started talking.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Oh, it was great.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
It was I knew he worked at Fantastic Sam's, and
so I had to find a way to get in
there and talk to him and make sure that Jimmy
knew about it. I went in, I got his phone number,
he called me, and we've been dating ever since. And
I broke up with Jimmy.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
He was the guy that was sweeping the hair up
and then I found that he was taking home and
making wigs.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Wow, you took that to a different level right there.
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Speaker 3 (40:45):
Shark or something live from the tire rack dot com studios.
Tears fear no baby, huh.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Apparently we're just gonna hear Tears for Fears all night
because Tyser's wearing a Tears for Fear's T shirt. Gee,
great purple. By the way, wait till I cut it off.
You burn it at the end of the night tonight,
you might like what's underneath?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
All right, let's go.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Looks like we're gonna at eighteen games in the NFL, real,
real soon. We could get a quarterback salary cat. One
thing I know we're getting right now is a very
good next few minutes of radio. Brought to us courtesy
of our next guest, longtime NFL Insider Pro Football Hall
of Fame voter. You can follow him on Twitter. Had
Jason Cole sixty two. He has been putting very good

(41:28):
players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame for the
better part of a decade.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Now, Jay Cole, what's happening.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
I'm glad to be part of a very good show.
Thanks Bundy and your All of your tweets have been
reading are very good. They're really they're very good.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I expect, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
Expect JJ Reddick to be at least a very good coach.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
What about tweet.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Today where you said he was very good? Like you
went to the tweets and yes, he is very good.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
Every one of your tweets, it's like about ten of
them could be very good. Final MESSI you they're getting
trampled advance. So you're saying he's not treated very good.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
By he's a very good player, is very good?

Speaker 6 (42:17):
Yeah, yes, yeah, very good.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I'm glad you finally embraced that you're putting very good
players in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
Not I know, we're playing famous players in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 12 (42:27):
Famous okay, legend, yeah somewhere, thanks for coming on.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
But Michael, Harold Carmichael.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Famous players, all guys. You love to hear we're putting
them in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
Bill Cower, Bill Coward, you know he's he's awesome.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Don Mkowski headed to the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
He was fun magic man.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Here we are.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
All, so let's start here. You know, Albert Breer talked
about this. We know the NFL wants it. We're really
going to see eighteen games in the next year or two.
We don't have to wait longer than that. It's going
to happen very soon.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
Well yeah, because the players are already basically capitulating. It's unbelievable.
Like I'm trying to remember the new president Reeves mabn
it's the president of the NFLPA, and he's like, well,
I guess we could talk about it, you know that

(43:34):
kind of thing, instead of like you didn't get a
Hell no, you didn't get a there's not possible. They're
going to have to pay dearly for this. It's like, well,
you know, they will talk to them about it. They're
going to run you over. They're just going to trample
you on the way to eighteen games and they just
don't care. It's like, oh, we're going to ask for
time off in the off season.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
The owners have to give.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
You more time off in the offseason if they're going
to make you play eighteen games. There's such dummies as
negotiators that the thing you're asking for is more time off,
Like they can't put you through more CTE inducing hits
and not give you time off like this. This is
why the players don't get it. You shouldn't negotiate over

(44:16):
health and safety. The owners should give that up automatically, right,
And you should be going for money. If they're going
to ask you to play more games, you should be
getting you know, several percentage points on the gross not Oh,
we got one percent of all new revenue, which is
what they got when they went to seventeen games. I'm like,

(44:38):
so you got one percent extra of the additional money
that they made for the one extra game from going
to sixteen to seventeen games? Like, could you be worse negotiators?
I mean, could you just be more terrible about this?
I mean, I just the players. They're going to take
it and they're going to like it, and that's just
the way it's going to go.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Seems to be about right from the PA, from all
the things we've watched for decades, now here Ja Coles, Well, well.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
Yeah, yeah. The other thing about well, hey, here's the
other one. Lloyd Howlse, who seems like a very nice man,
knows nothing about football. He never played, He's never been
in a locker room, he never has been part of
the sport. He wasn't an attorney representing the players behind
before this. He's never worked in football at all. He

(45:28):
doesn't know the difference between seventeen and eighteen games. Furthermore,
he's a corporate guy. They hired the NFLPA hired a
guy who was more likely to apply for a job
in the NFL offices than he was to apply to
work for a sports team.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
But he knows how they think, now, Ja.

Speaker 6 (45:48):
Cole, No, he has no clue. How they think he
has no clue how vicious they are.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
You really think he doesn't know the difference between seventeen
games and eighteen games, because I do.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
It's one game. I under side those.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
Yeah, yeah, you could represent the NFL.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
T that's very good representation.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
He would be a very good, very good Hey.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Here's the thing. It's just one game. Hey, Mahomes, It's
it's one game. I mean seventeen day look at that.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, Trent Williams, it's only one
more game. Tyron Smith, it's only one more game.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
You are Rogerson rogers in.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
Yeah, yeah, you only play you know, twelve games a
season as it is. What's the difference of you, you know, like,
you know, losing another disc you know in your back,
what's the big deal? You know, what's the big deal
about taking you know, more hits to your head? It's
I'm sorry, I just I've watched this play out where

(46:55):
over you know, thirty years of watching the players understand
their leverage, not doing things to create better leverage and
not understanding the issues year over year because they continue
to hire people who don't know football, like Demorris Smith
didn't know anything about football. Lloyd Howell doesn't know anything

(47:17):
about football. You want to know one thing about every
single commissioner in the history of the NFL, every one
of them, okay for now eighty years, every single one
of them. You know what they did before they worked
as the commissioner. They worked in the NFL. They know

(47:39):
how the game works, They know where the bodies are buried,
they know how the rules are, they know what the
economics of the game are. They know everything about it.
So these guys at the union just doesn't get it.
They never have it.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
So speaking of rules and economics, are we going to
get this the whole idea.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Of quarterbacks separate salary gap?

Speaker 6 (48:02):
Oh why not? Let's restrict earnings on people anyways if
they if the owners want to do it, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
I don't know. I might go for it.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
Well, no, with the PA. Like, here's the other thing
that the PA doesn't get. The while the salaries for
quarterbacks keep going up, whyt to know why that is?
Because the bottom guys who make the minimum still make
very little money, like like sixty to sixty five percent
of every roster is on minimum salaries. And those minimum salaries,

(48:36):
you know, they used to be three hundred thousand or
you know, two hundred thousand dollars back in nineteen ninety
three when they started this, they've gone up to a
whopping like six hundred thousand. Now, did you think that
maybe if you raise the minimum salary so that those
guys made more money, that maybe that would even out
the structures so that the guys at the top end

(48:59):
wouldn't necessarily make, you know, forty or fifty times with
the guys at the bottom end make and therefore the salary.
But again, the NFLPA, which is supposed to fight for
the totality of players, doesn't understand how salaries work and
doesn't understand that the bottom end guys have to get

(49:19):
compensated better. I mean, here's my favorite rule of all things,
compensatory draft picks. Do you know how compensatory draft picks work?

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Do I either on that?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:34):
I didn't know. If that was wrong, I don't know.
If you're you're okay, You're asking a very good question,
and I didn't know.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
I know it's a very I'm asking, I'm legitimately asking this. Well, no,
I'll just answer, We'll make it rhetorical.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Oh okay, no, book, No, can I know the answer.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Players, you lose in free agency, it matters what your
compensatory picks are, where your selections are.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
So guess what the nfl PA agreed to. They agreed
to a system which teams are incentivized to drop players
who've been with their team longer longer. Right, they're saying, look,
don't keep those guys, don't pay them more money, and
will reward you with a pick. Yeah, that's bad strategy.

(50:22):
It eliminates guys from having longer careers. It takes the
very good players and gets them replaced it by younger
players who are not as very good in this sense
a lot of the time. Instead, I mean, like, why
should I get compensated for intentionally telling a guy who's

(50:43):
been on my team, sorry, can't use you anymore. I
shouldn't get rewarded for that. I don't understand. I don't
understand that rule at all. But instead, like, I've been
incentivized to let that guy go even though I know
more about that player than any other team league and
I'm the one that's most likely, you know, for him

(51:04):
to you know, pay him a little bit more and
be for him to play better because I know how
to use him better. But no, the NFLPA and it's
infinite wisdom, but no, Yeah, sure, let's have compensatory picks.
Go ahead, do that, Like, let's make sure that the
guys on the bottom end of all of our rosters,

(51:24):
don't know, capitalize on their value.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Cole sixty two in a minute.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
It was a very good segment.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
That was That was That was a lot of football.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
After everything you just said, do you really think I'd
be worse off representing the NFLPA.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I'd be pretty good at it.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
You would at least know what you don't know. And
that's better than the last two guys for fifteen years
or whatever. It's done.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Suck.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm gonna
go make a phone call. I'll be right back. Okay, great,
thanks later, Take it easy, everybody, there it goes Jason Cale.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
He was very good tonight was very good, always very
good visit with him.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
You know, the funny thing is when that story came
up today and you see a couple of NFL insiders
Tom Pellisaro talking about that teams are thinking about a
potential salary cap for quarterbacks only. I said, I remember
having that idea a couple of years ago, saying, yeah,
you're gonna get to that point because quarterbacks are going
to price themselves out. And I looked on Twitter, how
far back ago we had that idea twenty seventeen. Because

(52:25):
I just said, how about a Fresca QB salary cap
twenty seventeen, My tweet went up today. Eventually you're going
to start seeing a quarterback salary cap because they're going
to price themselves too high and it's going to be
too difficult for teams to navigate. They're going to want
to change. Seven years ago, I told you this was
seven years ago. By Carmen, there's tomorrow's takes, the night before,
and then there's today's takes seven years seven years ago.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
I said this, No, it's good. It doesn't mean it's
a good idea.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
And as Jake Hole laid out and I think at
the time argued very similarly of you know, looking at
the whole structure of the thing.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Again, what the.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
PA is charged to do, and this is one part
of it, right, It's looking at the hole and not
that that top level group of guys that make thirty
million dollars a year. It's the fact that you're churning
out the back end of the roster year after year
that makes this disparity grow and grow and grow. He

(53:21):
adds the compensatory pick on top of it, as if
that was You've already won the match, but you decide
to go to the top rope Randy Savage style one
more time, just so the crowd can cheer or boo
you one last time before you exit the ring. So
but yeah, here we are seven years, seven years.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Seven years ago, had that idea seven years add now,
really I can represent the NFLPA. Hey, listen, If Gottlieb
can coach in college and JJ Redick can coach the Lakers,
I could do this. I mean, broadcasters time now to
be coaches and do things. I could do this.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Now, executives, you're an idea man. And again, look how
many times did we excore the lackluster efforts of Demorris
Smith when they would champion A Hey, we got a
couple more days off. You know what it means your
product sucks. It's less hitting, it's less time together where
your offensive line is learning how each other work because

(54:16):
you turn three fifths of an offensive line over each year.
All of those things. But yes, you got that extra
day off.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Congratulations, Exit out avouta fresca exit swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. We got
more coming up in ninety seconds, but right now, day
eight of the Grimace era and sports will be recapped
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Speaker 3 (54:38):
We will get to some NFL items in a moment.

Speaker 7 (54:41):
By the way, I am due to be in for
mister Harmon next Thursday Night backup co host. Hey, I
got a phone message from Kelly Stafford. Do you guys
have any.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Idea what it is about them?

Speaker 7 (54:50):
Announced as a backup today and suddenly I just let
it go to voicemail.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Is your car parked in front of your house?

Speaker 6 (54:55):
Like?

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Is that gonna happen? Just want to make sure.

Speaker 7 (54:57):
I just figured trying to sell me on that living
wheel preparation.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
No, I just let it go.

Speaker 7 (55:03):
The Patriots came running back Rmandre Stevenson a four year extension.
He's entering the final season of a rookie deal. Denver
hired former Stanford head coach David Shaw as senior personnel executive.
He was a four time Pack twelve Coach of the Year.
I remember that conference rookies will start reporting to training
camp in the NFL. Getting to that point in the NFL,
rookies are reporting to training camp in about a month,

(55:25):
less than a month for some teams. In Major League
Baseball's late game, Brewers had bases loaded two outs top
of the seventh Milwaukee Trails five to three at San Diego.
Everything else final, including the game in Birmingham. Saint Louis
held on six to five over San Francisco at Giants
versus Cardinals. Game was at historic Rickwood Field in Birmingham

(55:49):
on Fox TV. Attendance eight thousand, three hundred. The Birmingham
Black Barons of the Negro Leagues played there for nearly
four decades. Starting in nineteen twenty four, teams were wearing
throwback uniforms to highlight the history of the Negro Leagues
in those two cities, San Francisco and Saint Louis All
living Negro League players were invited to the game, and

(56:11):
those attending were honored before the game. Brookwood Field the
oldest pro ballpark in the US. It opened in nineteen ten.
Baltimore beat up the Yankees in New York today, seventeen
to five. Aaron Judge did hit his twenty seventh homer
of the year. Dodgers were five to three winners at Colorado,
Shoheyo Tani a leadoff homer his twenty first. Kansas City

(56:31):
won at Oakland three to two. Attendance eight thousand, seven
fifty three barely more at the A's game than the
game in Birmingham tonight. Slightly more seats available in Oakland.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Well, they saw professional baseball in Birmingham. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely
they did. Tampa Bay and ten innings beat Minnesota seven
to six. Wins for Houston, Arizona and Cleveland, which beats
Seattle six to three. Another loss for Luis Castillo, five innings,
five runs allowed. The Copa America tournament started tonights on
FS one Argentina two nothing over Canada in front of

(57:04):
a sellout crowd in Atlanta. The Americans opener is Sunday
at the euro Soccer tournament. Spain defeated Italy won Nothing,
out shooting him twenty to four.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
The Lakers new head coach will be jj Reddick. Sacramento
reportedly will re sign Malik Monk to a four year deal.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve Though The Jason Smith
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it took a while. Monty Williams got fired a day ago.

(58:02):
My bold prediction Lakers will be talking to Monty Williams
did not happen. Instead, this morning, Rob Polinka offered the
Lakers head coaching job. JJ Redicky as accepted, according to Sores,
is going to be a four year deal. Is he
the right choice? Did they actually talk to money? Williams
joining us down the hot line, longtime Lakers insider, beat
writer at the La Times. He's on Twitter at Dan

(58:24):
Wiki Sports and also unfortunately a man who is now
for the second time in the last three years, not
gotten the Lakers head coaching job.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
It is Dan Wiki doub what's happening? Man?

Speaker 5 (58:35):
Guys, my day will eventually come. At this rate, we'll
be right back at this year soon enough.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Yeah, it's good to look. Look, Hey, Doug Gottlieb's coaching
Wisconsin Green Bay. JJ Reddick's coaching the Lakers. Broadcasters, it's
our time. Now, I'll manage to metch at some point
you'll coach the Lakers. It'll work.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
The I'm good.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
I think it's.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
How about in two years when Lebron's done and I'm good.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Look, And that's that's not to say that it's a
bad Joe. Not what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
It is not a bad job.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
By the way, can we just saw that notion?

Speaker 6 (59:03):
It's not a bad job.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
It is a very hard job. The but like, like honestly, like,
I mean, there's nothing quite like being a famous Laker
really honestly, Now, if you're the coach, there's probably nothing
quite like being a famous Laker coach who has Twitter,
Like that's not gonna be to make sure JJ's got

(59:28):
those notifications off.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
I know, now, before we get to JJ, was there
any reach out to Monty Williams at all?

Speaker 6 (59:35):
They wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
No, No, they were pretty pretty well done the road,
and I think on JJ it just wasn't And I
don't mean this in a way to be disrespectful and
all the money Williams. I just think that, like you know,
they wanted to be innovative on this and they wanted
to take a healthy size swing. And part of the

(59:58):
reason for that has every I mean, it has a
lot to do with kind of the rules of the
new the new CBA rules in which you know, you're
really penalized if you kind of go about it the
way the Lakers have gone about things, which is star
star star star star right or like attempting to do
it that way. There was a feeling that they needed

(01:00:19):
to find somebody more forward thinking I think would be
a good way to put it versus like kind of
you know, like like now this is partly spin right,
like the these are kinds of things you say about
without an experience, is that Like you say things like
he's not like burdened by the sins of his profession.
You know it's going that phrase. I like it, but

(01:00:40):
but like to a certain degree, right, Like you know,
you don't know the bad habits that have come with
coaching for the last ten years, the same way somebody
who's been in the industry for twenty years and has
developed a pretty good idea as to what coaching is.
So I think like that actually they view that actually
the strength in this case, so that this is somebody
who is going to be attable and somebody who's going

(01:01:01):
to grow with the need of like ever evolving NBA
at the moment, you know, And I think they've did.
That's what That's one of the things they really like
about JJ Redick.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Well, and that has Jason and I have talked about
a little bit Dan and with you in the past.
One this is you don't know what you don't know.
But the guy that is there has fifteen years in
the league, made a lot of money playing has been
around the game all this time. So it's not that
you've got to cook him into practice anymore. You just
have to listen to what he may have learned through

(01:01:36):
the process. Earning said millions.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Well, No, no, I think you're right, And I mean,
look this again, no disrespect, but I think this is
an arguable fact. Who knows more about the NBA to
day Dan earlier? JJ Redick, Right, you know, honestly, and
like people were losing their ever loving bleep over Dan early,
you know, kind of in those a couple of days.

(01:02:01):
And I mean, the track record for college coaches and
doing it in the NBA just as poor functionally as
the track record of guys with no experience doing it
in the NBA. So I think.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I'm Dan wiky, I'm going to torpedo my own point
watch this.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
I guess. I guess what I'm gonna say is they
should have hired Humy Brown's really what they could have done. No,
But but I think, like I think I can say, Look,
they they view Dan Hurley as forward thinking as well,
and that was part of the reason why they were
drawn to him, right as they've seen kind of the
way he's attacked college is the college game. How he's

(01:02:40):
been able to kind of adapt to you know, the
the nil transfer portal era, and they viewed that as
a real strength. I think they saw similar qualities and
the two coaches, and look, they value the experience. It's
why they offered Dan Hurley the job. Right, it just
wasn't the only thing they valued. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I look at this part.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
You're looking for a big, a big out side of Hey,
how's JJ Redick going to do? I look at this
and think, well, this means Lebron is staying. I mean,
he and JJ Redick are tight, and for Lebron, he.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Probably can break.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Can I pump the breaks on some of this? Like
he and Lebron are type okay for a second, Like
there they have obviously a relationship. Right, how many episodes
do you think you've done with your best friend? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
I don't know. In the hundreds of thousands.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
There there there have been nine episodes of the Mind
in the Game podcast, by the way, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
But that's a lot for two people to work together.
Nine but it's.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Nine times, but it's nine hours.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
But you don't think Lebron and I.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
Will tell you. I can tell you. I can tell
you I'm reporting this. It's gonna be a story'm running.
It's gonna run the only type of one. They didn't
really have a relationship before any of this. Now that
doesn't mean that they haven't like become like some level
of basketball soulmates or whatever. Possibly, but but I really
think though like that it's like this is his guy

(01:03:58):
is a little overstated.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Well know what his guy in that I'm comfortable with
him and I can kind of coach just as much
as JJ Reddick coaches.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
Well, I mean, look, look, if you think that Lebron
James needed to see JJ Reddick for him to feel
comfortable sharing opinions, I would tell you you're incorrect. I
would say that they could hire John Wooden's hologram and
Lebron jameson still have.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
I could just see them off the court, would Yeah,
I'm tweeting it out nationally and on five.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Seven, he could reanimate Red Holtzman and Lebron James would
still look at Red Holtson like, what do you know
about any of this? I'm actually out here in the trenches.
And that's not to say Lebron is like a coach killer,
but it's just like he is regarded honestly as like
one of the smartest players, if not the smartest player
ever to play. He's done it for two decades. He

(01:05:00):
he's not gonna not say what he thinks. And he look,
he said it to Debenham, he said to Frank Vogel,
He's gonna say it to Jaju Reddick. I think you know.
To me, one of the things that I know is
like like and you can actually if you watch some
of these episodes off I can you can watch Jaji
Retick talk Lebron down. There was a clip that I
mentioned today to a high ranking Laker official will say

(01:05:23):
where you know, they're talking about analytics and stuff like that,
and Lebron, you know, as most players do at some point,
push back, right, analytics is like the calculator, geeks or
whatever you know, and like doctor Hoopers, and he said.
Lebron says to JJUI were like what happens when you
realize this report, Like that's what happens when a team
goes over twenty eight or missus twenty eighth straight like

(01:05:46):
Houston did against the Golden State warrias great questions to
jj Redick said it with zero seconds of hesitation, to
win this argument. Has it happened since? And he won
the argument and Lebron laughed and was like, no, it hasn't,
and like he disarmed him, like really really quickly. And
to me, like, this is a guy who's like navigated
a bunch of different locker rooms. I'm gonna tall like

(01:06:07):
I'm talking JJ up. I like JJ I'm excited for
him very cue shows because it is totally crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Well, hang on, Dan, I'm googling Lebron James trapezoid of success.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Hang on, I want to see how this.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Yeah, let me know what's in it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Your success doesn't work anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
One of them is good men's care products. That's the latest. Okay,
there you go, tequila, high end tequila.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
The uh No.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
I think I think here's something that I kind of
stumbledupon to day one time. I say you, he really
has sort of lived every basketball life in some fashion
other than like coach, he was inarguably the best player
like on his college basketball team. And it wasn't like
a low profile situation, right, Like, this is the leading
scorer in Duke basketball history, one of the most hated

(01:06:59):
college best players of all Temper Outlay. I absolutely loathed
all right, Like, you know, he and I have talked
about this. I hated him as a college basketball fan,
and so he knows what it's like though to like
have to operate as like the guy at the top
of the Skotting reports. It's not doing it, you know,
for the Lakers, but doing it for Duke is like
not nothing. You know, he was a rookie in the NBA,

(01:07:22):
by the way, a lottery pick who didn't play and
didn't have a real role and was then unsure putting
in the NBA until he found it. So he can
relate with guys like Challeen and Chaffino are trying to
find their way through the NBA because he's been there.
He's also been a crazy important role player, right, and
then he was also a declining role player and like
the Vet, you know, who doesn't get the minutes he won,
who wasn't closing games the way he wanted. So like

(01:07:43):
he's like lived all these locker room spaces. And you know,
we talk a lot about JJ with like sort of
the X of the o's and stuff, because that's what
the podcast or one of the podcasts is, is like
basketball strategy. But but really what his greatest strength might
end up being is his empathy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Wow, that should be on a T shirt. Put then
your JJ red a T shirt there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Buddy about that might how about that? I might put
that on a T shirt?

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
People respond, Empathy wins championships forget about defense.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Empathy wins titles.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
Number one all time leaving scored and number one time empathy.
I just think it's like, but I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Think, look, but you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
But the thing is you got to get But to
do this, you got to get Lebron and a d
to buy. And they're going to do their own thing
because they've always done their own thing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
I don't think that's totally true. I mean, look, I
think you know, I think like they played Frank blogal
style of defense. They bought in for that. A lot
of things changed subsequently. Kederkmar is very good friend. Russell
Westbrook was part of a trade kind of some reason.
That's the bubble layoff, which was very short and some

(01:08:50):
people were some a little wide coming back. Had some
issues to do with some of that stuff too. But no,
I mean I think they I mean, look, they bought
into that system. They played the defense, they did it
their way and honestly, Like I think, like when you
come up of a situation, just human nature, right like
when and players were not happy with Everingham, that's not

(01:09:10):
breaking news. I think they want to Like guys in
the locker room wanted to see a change the front.
The team did it. They gave them the change. I
think guys are going to come in just naturally open
minded because it's different. It's a different voice, it's a
different way of doing things. Now, what that like length
of rope looks like considering you know, he's not Greig

(01:09:30):
Babovich's not Eric Folstra, Like, that's an interesting question. But
I think, like right away, I don't think Bayan will
be the issue.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Okay, the issue is talent. So what do you do
one of them?

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
When is Rob that the one can get to do well,
it's kind of a big one. I mean I could
I could sit here and you know you're you have
your Chicago ties, so we can talk Caruso and the
fleecing of a bulls management. But right now, let's stay
in La and keep it localized. With Rob Bolinka as well.
What he to four to five.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
It's a good segue. It's a good segue. I mean,
Crussell was the player they are interested in, right, Like,
I mean, he's a player they've tried to reacquire. Sure,
you know, I think there is sort of three sort
of schools that thought as to like how they're going
to handle their roster this summer. You know, there's the
most obvious one, the one that gets the most like
sort of clicks and attention. And that's like, you take

(01:10:22):
your three picks, get bundle them, and you go trade
for a star, right whatever that even looks like, you know,
Trey Young will say, right, throw all the picks together,
make them offer for Trey Young. That's one option. They
can do that next. They can do that next Wednesday
on Draft night. They have the ability to do that.
Another option would be that you are still you're still aggressive,

(01:10:43):
but you kind of unbundle, right and you look to
see what what is your twenty nine first runt pick,
kitche you know, like what does that get you? Sort
of what Dallas did you know last year the trade
eland Does that get you a Daniel Gafford type player?
Does that get you a PJ. Washington type player?

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
It might get you That's good. That might be the
pick you need to get Bronni.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
But I mean I think, like, I think like it'll
get you like that type of pick has that sort
of value. Right now, The question sort of becomes is then,
like you know, you're you're you're making some real evaluations
about what you already have in the house, and you're
trying to say, like, Okay, is it worth this twenty
nine first round pick to get seven percent better than

(01:11:25):
ruy Haachumara or twelve percent better than ruey Ashimura, right
or something like that? And you know that forgets tricky,
But I think that is an option too. And the
other option is that you just kind of you kind
of look at last season and you say, well, we
thought coaching was an issue, Okay, we fixed that. And
we thought point of attach defense was an issue, Well
we fix that just by having Gabe Vincent, Jared Vanderbilt
be healthy. Now. Counting on help I think is always risky, right,

(01:11:49):
especially when you have a foty year old and Anthony
Davis at the front of your roster. But those are
those are kind of the pathways, and I think there's
like a real hope that like internal improvement, internal development
will will grow that like the Austin reeves we saw
last year will be worse than the one we see
this year, because that's what players in their fourth year do, right,

(01:12:09):
Like they get better that Max Christie will in his
third season matter for this team. You know, sub versions
of that like not not matter in a you know,
Shake Gills as Alexander kind of way, but like my
rotation minutes, like they'll be a part of what they're
trying to do, you know, and that will get better.
Like these guys who you know have not research ceiling

(01:12:31):
will start at this internal development because of you know,
I don't want to say it's the only way, but
it's by far the preferred path when you think about
one the cost of marginal improvements and two you know,
the tech an apron which is scaring the bejesus out
of the teams when it comes to roster buildings.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
You can fall on Twitter at Dan Wyki Sports. That
is at Dan Whyky Sports, La Times Lakers Insider Extraordinarior.
Dan as always, Buddy, appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to
you soon.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
Have fun sounds good guys, Thank you, good night, see you, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Appreciate you, Dan. You can be the coach of the Lakers. No,
I'm good. I'm good. I think I'm good. Guys, I
think I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Oh but I mean the follow up is, how about
two years from now, if and when it becomes available?

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Oh well, two years ago. That's a different story. On
Exit olt Vita Fresca, Exit Swollen Dome. Great stuff from
dan Wiki there about the potential of JJ Redick again,
we talk about the potential of Redick and his success.
Coming up next, what is, without a doubt, the most
fun story tonight in sports. We opened the show with it,
and now things have changed since we talked about this

(01:13:42):
a couple hours ago. That's next right here, Jason and
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