Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason and Steve celebrate Bobby Bonilla Day. Klay Thompson chooses to sign with the Mavericks over the Lakers. And the guys react to the USMNT getting eliminated from the Copa America and debate if Gregg Berhalter should be fired with Jason La Canfora.

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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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(00:51):
is the way tire buying should be. Well. First, y,
let me wish you a very happy Bobby Benia Day.
I hope you celebrated like I gotta tell you, there
are two days on the calendar. I get more texts
than any other my birthday and today really and it's close.
I mean it's it's close.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
The big difference with this year's July First is it
seems literally everybody in the world of sports is getting
paid exact Mobamba just got paid by the Clippers. There
is no end to this man.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Mobamba was on the NIXT list of potential replacements for
Art and Stuff's right Data Center, but out till every
every year July First, it's like my own. It's like
my second birthday. It's like as my birthday's l the year,
except you know, I get my six month birthday, like, oh,
everybody's wishing me happy Bobby benn Even even people in
my family now that really have no idea what this

(01:44):
is get told about it and they text me about it.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Bobby Binnia getting paid off his contract annually on this date,
and that contract goes back many, many years. But you,
mister Matt's fan, are not actually receiving any renunerrations. So
you're getting congratulats of some sort. But it's really it's
not your day at all.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I get happy Bobby Benia day. So what I get
today is which is not your name, no no, no, no,
not my name. So what I get today is Brandon
Nemo of the Mets injuring himself in his hotel room,
slipping and falling. So he's out of the lineup tonight
chainting and falling. And now I get the Mets with
a six run lead in the top of the tenth inning,
now trying to protect a nine to seven lead. They

(02:24):
have that cut that lead from six, protect a six
run leading the tenth thinning. No, no, no, we're gonna
We're gonna sweat this one out.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Don't The Mets have one of the best closers in
the National League the last few years. Haven't we seen
where's the Trumpetsy? Things are a little sticky right now. Okay,
we're very, very difficult for us.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So this is what I get. Now, this is what
I get. July first is always a day, right, July
first is a day. I mean it is. It's a
day for me.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I mean, meanwhile, US men's soccer is playing right now.
And let's just say. I think it was Carly Lloyd
on the halftime show on FS one saying referee is
out of his element.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
And I think Taylor you could tell right away. Look
they talked to the very beginning of the broadcast, Rob Stone,
I think it was said Hey, and here's your referee
for this game, and he doesn't have a lot of experience,
and you know what, that was absolutely apparent because he
lost control of this game thirty minutes and we're at
halftime right now. Again, the United States needs to win
to stay alive in the Copa America. If they score

(03:23):
a goal and Panama beats Bolivia won nothing, the United
States will still advance. It depends on gold differential. But
they have to win this game. There's no scenario which
they don't win the game and they don't move on.
It's nothing. Nothing at halftime, they have not had a
lot of great chances in the first half, but this
official has lost control over the game very early.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Stu Holden said that during the first half he in
the broadcast. In fact, there was a guy, a sports
media reporter who tweeted at halftime, what is this referee doing?
This is making me miss Pack twelve revs.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Pack twelve? After dark? I mean, look, in the first
ten minutes, you gotta start giving out cards right when
you see the play being physical. You got to give
out some yellows. And when he didn't do it, okay, hey,
guess what doors open? Everybody let's just keep going. Now
you're seeing the play is more chippy, it's more physical,
finally giving out a yellow. But you can tell he
has absolutely lost control of this match. And and and

(04:15):
there's guys again. Her couple of guys have had to
leave already, Balligans had to leave the game at the
United States player for for on offense. Yes, for Uruguay
had to leave the game after an injury. It has
been that kind of chippiness of a day.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
So we had three yellow cards total of the first
could have been seven fourteen fouls. Did you notice that
one yellow card he gave to the US and immediately
Uruguay respotted the ball and just continued the play while
the referee had the yellow card.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
In the air, talking about no respect for the referee.
We're just gonna keep playing. But I'm saying, yeah, we're
just we're just gonna keep playing. Okay, we're not listening
to Wow, that's enough. I've seen that in you know,
all all the youth soccer that I've coached. I've seen
so many times where if the ar on the side
is not up to snuff, and you can tell, like
the ar will make a call, and and and everybody

(05:02):
knows that's not the right call, and we'll just keep playing,
and the center ref will just tell them no, no
call though, call like he'll call a ball. No, no, no, no,
keep playing, keep playing, keep playing, that's not offside. Okay,
keep playing, Just keep playing. That's kind of what this
is like.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, yeah, well whatever, we're just gonna keep Yeah, you're
not gonna you're not gonna bawl the list, so what
you're worried about, We're just gonna keep going.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I don't mean to offend anyone on this, but it's
kind of like third world soccer, which is somewhat appropriate
for Conca calf because if you compare it to some
of the other federations in the world. Let's just say,
we're not bathing ourselves in glory these days. No our
region of the world in either soccer or pass scandals
or you know, Mexico went out quite meekly in this tournament.

(05:42):
The US could be eliminated tonight, and there's not a
lot of depth here, let's be honest. And then you
have the referee.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, well, and look, so you have the United States
needing to score and they have they have to win
this game, right, there's no they have to win if
they're going to try to advance the hate watching of
the second half of this game, hoping off the hook,
because that's likely what's going to happen if we can't
get out of group and Kopa. Look. Greg Berholter, who

(06:09):
many people want to see fire, He's not any good.
We've seen this already. The team is not getting better.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
There's a reason they didn't re sign him when his
last contract ran out.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, and then brought him back because ah, well, you know,
we couldn't find anybody else. Yeah, it didn't work.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Really, it's the United States. You couldn't fign.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
It couldn't get anybody else. I'm available. I could have
coached like I mean, look his strategy on offense, get
the ball to polistic. I could do that.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I don't know what grade level you've coached in soccer,
but JJ Reddit coached fourth grade.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I can go to that. I coached higher level than that.
I coached star as I coached X. You got my vote?
Oh yeah, you know, no, I coached at a high level.
I don't exactly why I could vote like Gottlieb hosting
his show and coaching wiscons green Bay host the show
and coach the men's team. I coach men's team from here. Hey,
get it to Polisic. But that's all that bur Alter
is doing. Okay, let's do it that way. You know.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
In the group, it's the out of the four teams advance.
The bottom two are out. As of tonight, the US
and Panama tied for second into the group. In the
group to start the evening, each with one win one loss.
So they make sure as these two teams are playing
concurrently in separate cities, they make sure to start the
games at exactly the same time. However, the Panama game

(07:20):
is now in the fifty first minute and the US
has yet to begin the second half, just for the record,
so that whole Hey, let's start it. That's said, that
has ended, that is long gone, that's by the boards.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, that's where you know you need to let's start
the second half at the same because you know in
the first half with injury time, and you know what's
going to be different. So how about you start speaking.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Of injury time. After all those injuries and stoppages in
the first half of the US game in Kansas City tonight,
we were expecting literally eight to nine minutes of added time.
At the end of the forty five it was five
minutes and we're done.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah. Uh the Jason Smith Show, Steve Disaga and from
Mike Carbon tonight. Now, at the very least, America's prayers
have been answer because if you watch this game in
the first half, you saw something that has Justin Frossberg
just absolutely opping mad. Right now, I thought you were interesting.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
If I think the cameras are broken, oh goodness at
Arrowhead and as a man who goes there every year
to do a game.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, that stadium sucks literally birds. That's why the camera
angles were like that. That's that's probably where the TV
and all that stuff set up at the.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Top the Bold the South American Soccer Federation that puts
on this tournament somehow got a better camera location a
little lower for the second half of this game for
the world feed that Fox has to use, because at
the beginning of the first half, I thought it was
the blimpcam. Honestly, it's the difference between you.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's where they put us with the blimps.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
You remember, for years the Knicks had one of the
lowest camera angles. As you go back to the eighties
and nineties. It was it was like the complete opposite
of that. It's like, how high can you physically walk
up wildcam carrying a camera in the upper level.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
At Kansas they put you at level ten. Every other
stadium maxed maybe five.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Okay, well they didn't well there La because level five
or six is ground level. They had to dig into
the ground, so you only have to go up one.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
But it was such a fail in the first half
because really I felt like, well, I feel like I'm
at the game, but I'm in the top row of
the stadium, and you can't see a lot of what's
going on. You can't see where the ball's gonna end up.
It's hard to see. Is this play a foul? Look
like a twenty two camera, except it with soccer. At
least you know it's gonna be great after the eighth.
They want to diagram plays in the first and well,

(09:38):
here's what happened. Ye pow, polistic comes in here. As
you see in this round. That's gonna look great. But
you know, look for everybody who says, hey, listen, you
know you can't. You can't, you can't fight the man. Hey,
everybody complained the camera angles are off on the first half,
and look what happened. We got great camera. They changed
that camera angle from the world feed to now a
more manageable Hey, this is kind of where.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
The camera My hand is now raised. Can we change
the coach? Can we do that at halftime?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well, I wanted to give the coach to York because
they were missing their coach. Tonight's coach has been suspended.
I wanted to find a way to give Uruguay our coach.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
The first two game would for Uruguay. He doesn't come
out in time after halftime, and so the people putting
on the tournament suspended him for tonight's game, so he's
not on the sidelines. Is the first place team and
we'll be finished.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Guys for playing the US. Do they really need a coach? No,
But if we give him our coach, then it'd be
better for us and worse for that. Again, they don't
need they don't need a goal tonight. The US absolutely
must score or they're out tonight. It's like giving Zach
Wilson to another team. Your team immediately gets better, and
if he plays, that team is worse. But that's what
it is.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
By the way, the Mets did win in ten innings.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yes, we held on.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Today we nine nine to seven. Apparently Timmy Trumpett did
not come in. I haven't seen him. I don't know
what's up with Diaz in closing.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Five more days, five more days. Okay, right, so now,
frost but let me ask you this now. So they
changed okay, so they changed the they changed the booth. Right,
they changed the booth from a time. They can't do
that for you. They couldn't do that for you. I
just texted you a picture of where they put us. Man,
you tell me, oh my god, it looks like the
same angle. Oh, you can't even kidd anything. That's where

(11:19):
they put you in Kansas City, Kansas.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
In the first half. Somebody tweeted this camera angle appears
to be on the moon.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
It was, well, no, I don't know. I think it's
the moon's a little closer. Maybe maybe that's no moon.
On our way up in the elevator, we passed them
people on the moonwave. Hey, there goes the charges play
by play. Guys, all right, good luck. I mean, really, Frostburg,
this is where they had it. Actual insane. This actually zoomed.

(11:47):
I mean, I mean, look, it's about as high as
the camera angle in the first half. I mean really
that that's that's where they put you.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
There was a messy game in Kansas City in this
stadium that that Star Suarez, by the way, played in
this stadium, and Apple TV has the MLS contract and
they didn't have the blimp cam in the first half
of that game.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
No, we had the blimp cam. We had the blim
cam the entire way until he decided, oh, we can
change it now finally, But look, I like that. I
like they listened, Hey, we can't go with this act.
People are killing us on social media. We got to
change it.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
The absolute best response to all of this with the
camera angle in the first half of the coverage tonight
was literally the Twitter feed for the Goodyear Blimp wait
in I'm not kidding and said, not sure if we
should be flattered or offended, but to answer all of
you at once, no, we are not covering the US
gate tonight.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I think they were probably lower. I'm sure they were lower.
They wear the camera.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I know what was lower, is that what's the camera
that's on the metal rails that goes that can be
the NFL uses so often that was often in the
shot in the first half because the fixed camera was
so high above it.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know, I don't even think if you put a
drone that high. I think if you had a drone
that high, it would ice up and fall to the ground.
Like that's how high acts that high we have. We
have a Leo Otto that's the camera the game. Never mind,
never mind, Uh go back to where you were. One
fan tweeted, this is ridiculous. Can't see anything this camera angle.

(13:27):
Another said is going to make me throw up. When
I saw I said, Okay, well, something's odd. Believe they're way,
something's wrong with their regular camera angle. We're going to
get a different angle. Nope, nope, we stayed off, but
with about ten or fifteen minutes left in the first
half they changed over. So I'm glad they listened well.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
But as someone pointed out, the fact that we've seen
a soccer game MLS from the stadium and other events
from that same stadium not in such a high camera
angle means that the South American folks putting on the
tournament actually chose to put a camera that high and
make it the main camera to start a game there.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
So frost, But let me ask you this So when
you're that high in Kansas City, do Money Smith and
Daniel Jeremih did they just make up players that they
think have the ball? Because they can't tell you. When
I'm high, kid, I normally just eat barbecue. Did I
think do they make up players that have the ball?
It looks like it looks like a story.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
I told this guy. This story was last week when
I was at the Agel game. Bob Costas told this
once when he was starting and broadcasting. He was doing
w h A hockey and he didn't have the time.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
You rememberized one guy's name everywhere, the name, so he
just decided before face looked at the roster. Okay, France
Wawa met is about to have the.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Game of his life because anytime he didn't know who
it was. Bucks in the corner, can't see, don't know
Franz Wawa.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
CA's it every time we go there, lt with the
carry and Merriman with the tum.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
You know, Rob Reagan, there's a drop.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
There's a drop. I'm sure Quintin Johnson, I don't know
for sure, but I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
That, Yeah, I thought you'd been like a drop to
play on the show like an air drop.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
But yeah, if it's a literal.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Drop, it probably was Quentin Chotson last year.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
No.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Ronald Reagan, you remember, was a baseball announcer back in
the days when they used to recreate the road games.
They would not spend money to send the baseball announcer
on the road. He would call the game from the
studio and just follow the teletype. One game, he was
calling the road game from the studio and the teletype
breaks down. It's just middle of it. At bat stops

(15:33):
sending what the next pitch was or what happened, and
so he's live on the air.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
He just keeps having the.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Guy foul pitches off because the teletype's not work. He
starts describing the foul balls, he starts describing the kids
who are catching them non existent foul balls. Finally the
teletype comes back up and it was just a ground
out to second. He was able to continue the broadcast.
But somebody a week later caught Reagan on the street

(16:01):
and said, hey, I listened to your broadcast. Have you
ever seen that many foul balls in a ball game?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
It was a forty seven pitch at that It was
absolutely insane. Uh So here you are right now again,
United States Uruguay underway in the second half, fifty third minutes,
still scoreless. United States needs to win. Hope Panama's game
stays and Panama is winning in the sixtieth minute. But
one nothing is okay. One nothing is all right because
we need the gold differential and it works. No, but

(16:25):
Panama will get a w right, But we would but
if we but that's why, if we win, we would
have this score. We have to score.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
That's a huge have to score. Yees, no, we haven't
score a goal. Yes, I just skipped across that. I
just assume you, like, are not expecting to see the
United States.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
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(17:03):
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Speaker 1 (17:50):
Come on ty shirt USMNT is not winning. We don't
need this negative energy. We don't need this negative energy song.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
Or is it positive?

Speaker 8 (18:00):
Pause?

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Remember Jason, what is the song's mantra?

Speaker 9 (18:03):
Everybody wants to rule the world. You know we should
be saying we want to rule the world. Everybody wants
USA to score at least one goal.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Okay, that's not happening. Those are the alternate lyrics of
the song. Okay, all right, very good. Are you right?

Speaker 7 (18:14):
You're ready?

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
Welcome two men's soccer. Go Jason.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I can't see the field because the cameras to see
you at the third bar. Not sure what.

Speaker 8 (18:26):
Is going.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
The next big goal Poliitic scores will be the first.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
Okay, hold on, I can't your copper halter on the sideline.
Every US game looks like a beer league.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
You know, that's the best way that I can really
explain the USMNT, as talented as they are, you know,
we're as talented. Poliitic's been the best player United States
has had in over a dozen years to make it,
to really boil it down right, and there's still zero
zero with this group.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Is good. It was a young group that came out together.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
They look like they look like when I see them play,
they look like a team, And I go, how much
they practiced? Could they not have practiced this week? Did
like some players not be able to make it? You know, hey,
I got to recital at my daughter's school. I'm actually
out of town this week. All right, no practice on Tuesday,
you know, just show up. Game is Friday, be there
an hour and a half before. That's kind of what they.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Have actually been in a game and heard that before
cal State Fullerton dropped its football program. I was at
a game and in all seriousness, someone behind me turned
to his buddy next to and says, do they even practice?
He was absolutely serious. And there are times when you
see this, the lack of direction. It's not just the

(19:45):
lack of results, the lack of direction. Why we, as
we pointed out on one of the shows last week,
bring it back to the head coach.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
And a big development just happening. The United States again
tied with Uruguay. Bolivia has tied their game with Panama
at one apiece, opening the door a little bit for
United States success. Bolivia with a goal. I believe it's
their first goal in seventy six years and international competition.

(20:15):
This is the biggest win for Bolivia since they got
butchered Sun Dance back in sixty.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Bolivia is ranked eighty fourth in the world.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Most Bolivia games, they just jump off a cliff.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
So yeah, so now things may be looking a little
bit brighter for the United States. A little bit will tie.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
They both finished with one win, one loss, one tie.
With Panama, the US would have the gold differential.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
How about that Burhalter survived again? No, this is bad,
Come on, still aways again? The hate watching is off
the hook. I don't know what I'm rooting for. Bolivia.
Panama won one in the sixty ninth minute, United States
Uruguay zero zero in the sixty fourth minute. Will have
more on this, Steve will have more and what's trending
coming up in a few minutes. Because there was only
really one baseball game tonight, the Mets one. That's all

(21:02):
you need to know.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
They are showing the US fans in the crowd at
Kansas City telling their buddies looking at their phones, what
Blivia score. They just showed coach Burlter on the sideline
saying to a player on the field, one one, it's
one one might have just scored. We'll see if it

(21:23):
stands after video review. But they're celebrating.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, looks like it could be one. Nothing Uruguay again,
just right where things look great?

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Hey? For about ten scored. I'll tell you, man, we
rode the fast lane for about ten seconds there. We
really had the fast lane for about ten seconds and
we definitely suck again.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
That's really good coaching. Make sure to tell your guys. Hey, one,
what look here?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
One?

Speaker 7 (21:44):
What?

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh wait? Go oh wait wait the ball just went
by free kick? Yeah, it's off the free kick. They're
looking to see for offside. I don't know, boy, it's close.
It's close. I don't know that it's going to be overturned.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
It's a line of ten to twelve players including the defense.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Boy Matt Turner makes the save, but it's not strong enough.
Bolivia Uruguay puts in the rebound again. They're looking at
it to see I from my side, but yeah, I
don't know that you're going to be able to I
don't know. I don't know that you can push this back.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay, So everything we just said forty.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Seconds, yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, but now the United States
needs a goal right now. Now we need a goal. Now,
now we need to We went from we need a goal,
now we don't need a goal. Oh, now we need
a goal right now. We need to go. So it's
what I'll tell you. That's going to be really close.
And you know with var Look, the thing about soccer
with replay compared to other sports is there's no gray area.
It's either you're off side of your not. There's no well,

(22:41):
that's what you're the off side of your not.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I thought about the baseball review until that home run
that apparently was even though it went on the left
side of the left field all over the weekend, and
the announcer said, what huh, well were the Royals gave
was something that we were not looking at. So at
the moment, it's one thing Uruguay on the scoreboard sixty
seven minutes in. But the referee has his index finger

(23:05):
to his ear and is listening to.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
The video referee. It could be anything.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
You never know, he could just add a couple of
red cards. So there's no enjoyment at this point.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I mean, you could I could see right right before
the ball is touched, right before the ball is headed,
where they could call offside.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
On the free kick. Note, but maybe on the header
in front of the US goalie maybe so.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I could see, I could see where that happens a
little bit, and potentially you could wind up getting dis loud.
But again, they're looking at it. Var and I said, look,
the United States. Things look great for five seconds and
then we're all the way back to where we are.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
No, don't know, I'm feeling more confident than I felt
now that we're looking at the offside on the header
in front of the goalie.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
But when when the last time the United States has
gotten a call where you feel like that could go
either way. It looks like I said, yeah, we don't
get those calls. Stevo, who had var as the MVP tonight.
I haven't made the call yet, you're not. We're not
quite sure.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
You know, there's still fifteen minutes left in the other
game in Orlando. Bolivia could give up a goal here.
This is entirely within the realm of possibilities.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Somehow Bolivia wins and we give up enough goals and
still lose because of the gold differential. Ultimately, like Bolivia wins,
hit on the tarmac, do the lane kissen? Bolivia wins
like two to one, but we lose three nothing and
we go differential switches. Yeah, we love, we love. Oh
to lose two nothing. It didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
This goal checks going on three or four minutes now.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
So it's going to be a goal. The goal is
going to stand. You just saw the push. Wow, you know, look,
you could have called it. But Burhalter is looking right now, going, man,
I'm gonna be a coach for twenty more minutes. So
Uruguay off a set piece, scores to make it one
nothing again sixty eighth minute of the game. Right now,
the United States needs a goal. If they tie and

(24:51):
the result holds with Bolivian Panama, we move on. If not, well,
we're looking for the big bodies. We've got to actually
score a goal.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yes, yes, yeah, let's score a goal out tonight and
hopefully the coach is out yeah again in the morning.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Here's your recaut from the beginning of the day, need
a goal five seconds where he didn't need a goal.
Now we need to go with it, all right, so
a goal, don't need a goal, need to go lead
to go lead a goal. It's not that confusing, actually,
so we'll have more on this coming up in a
few minutes. But obviously look big stuff today the last
couple of days with NBA free agency, and it's really
difficult in free agency to say when a new player,

(25:28):
when a player leaves his old team and he signs
the new team, where you can say, hey, great call
by the old team to let him go, great call
by the new team to bring him in. Right, Usually
it's one or the other.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
I didn't think you would feel this great about Hartenstein leaving.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Hey, I wanted to keep him, but we can't keep everybody, man,
you know, we can't. Now you find out fun teams
go through this occasionally.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Just just wait when when Mitchell Robinson is hurt and
we're playing five guards at once, that's gonna be the offense.
But this is the case with Klay Thompson all right,
who signed a three year agreed to a three year,
fifty million dollar contract. He's joining the Dallas Mavericks. The
first two things were kind of weird about this. I
thought it would take time because Clay Thompson kind of
has that Dwayne Wade. Hey, I need to be viewed

(26:11):
as one of the biggest stars in NBA history. I
need to be respected. So I thought he would go
on this long tour and talk to a bunch of
teams before he signed. So I'm surprised he signed so fast,
and I'm surprised that it's three years and fifty million. Like,
he didn't he didn't even get what Hartenstein got, right,
Hartenstein got more money than Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
But okay, Hartnstein got three years, eighty seven million was
the report.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Three years and fifty for Clay shows you, hey, this
is where the market was because he's not someone He's
someone that means a lot more to his new team
than he is to his old team. Because I'm if
I'm the Warriors and there's no baggage with the new
team yet, no, no, if look, if I'm the Warriors,
you had to let him go. Yeah, I've said it
from the beginning, and you got to get rid of
draymondto you got to move away from this era because

(26:54):
you're not winning. And would a new invention of players
around Steph Curry work. I don't know if it'll work,
but I know that Steph and Clay and Draymond are
not working anymore. It's not getting better, they're not winning
more games, They're not getting closer to a title. It's
not working. And when Clay is not the player he
was and Draymond is not the player he was, you

(27:14):
need something new and you need to go and say,
all right, Steph is still an All NBA type player,
first second team All Team All NBA player. Let's try
something new around him that can work for us. So
I love the move. I love Golden State. They gotta
go someplace new with how they're gonna build this team.
But for the Mavericks, boy, I'll tell you what did
they need a guy like Clay this year in the finals?

(27:36):
Did they need a guy to say, Hey, you know
how many rings I got, give me the ball, I'll
make big shots. He's now suddenly gonna be the third
option on the team. That's exactly what he needs, someone
who he can pick his spots, whether he agrees to
come off the bench or not. What I mean, it's
gonna be a different thing for Clay. But he's someone
that they need him more in Dallas than they needed

(27:57):
him in Golden State. His leadership, his abillity hit threes.
He doesn't have to worry about being a volume shooter
anymore and being someone that, Ay, we're relying on you
to be a twenty five point a game guy, because
that's not who he is. But with his leadership and
what he can still do shooting threes, because look at
what happened to Dallas in the finals. What was the
biggest thing you can point to? How many threes did
they miss? They were a good three point shooting team

(28:18):
in the regular season. They had the third most threes
made per game, and they were awful, and the Celtics
won because everybody on the Celtics can shoot threes. They
all made their threes. Dallas didn't. This fills a huge
hole for the Mavericks.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And don't forget the half court shots. Dallas really needed
a guy to hit half court shots.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Heartenstein.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
That's why, I you know, it's why Oklahoma City got
by the way Panama has scored. So it's two to one,
Panama light in the game and the Americans are losing.
So I know we've still got what twenty minutes left
in the US game, but yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Might Now we need two goals. Yeah, right night, Now
wey two goals.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
As much as Klay Thompson has been talked down, and
I understand part of the reason is because we didn't
see him play at all for a couple of seasons
in recent years. But he's still twenty point points a
game for his career, and it was a decade plus
career with Golden State, and he was still eighteen points
a game last year. And even though the three point
percentage was down a bit, he still can shoot a
lot of threes if that's required, and he can still

(29:13):
make three pointers at a fine percentage. It's the overall
shooting that has come down. And yes, he's getting older,
but to not act like this isn't a good addition.
It's ridiculous, especially when it's a team built on two guys.
And my goodness, we wound up kind of half lucky
with that whole Lively draft pick and the trade to
get him.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Look, it's I love the teams that understand we have
to get risky, right, we want to win. We got
to get bold, right. Dallas is getting bold. The Sixers
are bold. We know the Knicks are bold. They traded
eleven first round picks to get mcal Bridges. You're seeing
to the Oklahoma City Thunder or bold. You're seeing these
teams that know. I think the Clippers a little bit below.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Clippers gave up more first rounders than the Paul George thing.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, yeah, trying to figure out who won the Paul
George trade. Man that the thirty for thirty. All right,
let's go back and look and.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Say, waiting for the Bobby Benia thing to finish about
the same time, you could come to a conclusion.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Dude, I get eleven more years of Bobby Bania. Man,
is it that long led twenty thirty five? Twenty thirty
five I got.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
From So you'll be getting texts probably there won't even beat.
They'll have some of their technology to say congrats on
Bobby Benia Day to you. By the time this thing
ends in over it.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
No, he'll be a hologram in front of me. He'll
be doing the show with me as a hologram. By
the time it'll be good, he'll appear.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
And he'll say congrats to you.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I always say my like when I my retirement will
be the day after the last Bobby Benia Day, like
Bobby Day July first, twenty thirty five. I'll retire the
next like that. I'll do one more show and that's it,
and I'll retire the day after like July second.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
That's interesting, Like that'll be when I wrote, So you're
tying your career to somebody you never actually.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Paid the end of the end of Vibe, but it
would it would be at propos. Hey, guy went out
right at the It's all good. Honestly, I'll tell you, man,
last Bobby Day. It works anyway.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Need to emphasize. Clay Thompson was eighteen points a game.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yes, Look, Clay is still a good player. He's just
not a number two guy on a championship team and
he's got to understand that. And I know there was
I'm sure some bitterness because I'm sure he wanted the
Warriors to come over the top with a with an
offer that was going to force him to stay, and
that wasn't the case. Didn't he say no.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
To the big money that he could have opted into.
So yeah, I mean, look, look, it's a good move
for both. The Warriors had to move on, and he's
a great get for the Mavericks and better for him
to move on, frankly pastic.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
So that's where we sit right now. It is a big,
crazy roller coaster of a Monday night, and right now
Steve Desager has all the latest with what's trending in
the wide world of sports.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
They just announced the attendancy Kansas City, where it's warm
and humid, for the US soccer game in Copa America.
Fifty five thousand on hand, maybe to watch the US
get booted out of this tournament. Their trailing first place
Uruguay won nothing through seventy six minutes. Now, meanwhile, Panama
has retaken the lead too one over Bolivia. They are
eighty two minutes into their game in Orlando. For the

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moment in the standings, the US and Panama are tied
for second in the group, each with one win and
one loss. But again Panama playing the easier the last
place team tonight and winning its game, so at the
moment Panama clearly would be the second place team at
advancing after tonight. The key is the US, of course,
loss had had two Panama last Thursday, on a goal

(32:25):
in the eighty third minute at that game in Atlanta.
Fifty nine thousand were on hand for that game. Brazil's
group finale is tomorrow night against Tuino Columbia on FS one.
At the Euros in the Round of sixteen, France eliminated
Belgium one nothing on an own goal in the eighty
fifth minute. Portugal beat Slovenia on penalty kicks, scoreless through overtime.

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Just three MLB games tonight, and the Milwaukee Brewers have
come back to tie it up. At Colorado, the game
is six to six in the top of the eighth.
The Mets held on for a ten inning win nine
to seven. At Washington, JD. Martinez three run homer in
a six run top of the tenth. Houston won its
game at Toronto three to one each team, which is
four hits. Vladimir Guerrero Junior of the Blue Jays did

(33:09):
not play due to a sore hand he was hit
by a pitch. Yesterday. The Boston Celtics agreed to a
five year extension with Jason Tatum. Derek White got a
four year extension from Boston Celtics ownership plans to put
the team up for sale. Philadelphia gave Tyrese Maxi a
five year deal. Tobias Harris agreed to a two year
contract with Detroit. Dallas acquired Klay Thompson from Golden State

(33:31):
in a sign and trade. The Warriors got de Anthony Melton.
Oklahoma City picked up center Isaiah Hartenstein on a three
year contract. The thunder re signed Aaron Wiggins to a
five year deal, and Oka re signed Isaiah Joe. In
the WNBA, there are two games tonight, including Connecticut with
a record of fourteen to four, winning again late first

(33:52):
half thirty seven thirty at Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Back to You, Thank You, Steve O The Jason Smith Show.
Steve desagerin from Mike Harmon tonight. We'll have what's going
on in the Cope America coming up. But straight ahead,
a huge, bold prediction I made about the NBA. Looks
like it's going to be a lead pipe cinch going
to happen after the big news that broke earlier today.

(34:14):
What is it? We'll tell you next right here, Jason Smith,
Steve de sagerin for Mike Harmon. This is Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
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Speaker 1 (34:39):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
Steve de Sagarin for Harmon. Tonight, the United States about
ten minutes away from being knocked out of the Cope America.
Most certainly they trail Uruguay won nothing. They need two
goals and they're having a tough time even.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Make it three shot. Santama just scored again.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Panama just scored again, So we did three goals in
the next ten minutes, all that's all we need. That's
all we need. Look, we'll have more of this coming
up in about twelve minutes or so, because look, it's
gonna be a really big deal and the future of
United States soccer is now in the balance.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
And keep in mind the context we are co hosting
the World Cup in two years.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but look there's Look, when they hire
me to be the coach, I will have two years
to instill my culture with the team and it will
be fine, absolutely fun. Your culture, my culture?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
What is that instead of a water hydration break, it's
a big back break during the half?

Speaker 1 (35:33):
See, you want to be my assistant coach? There you go, right,
there you go. You're in, Steve, You're in.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
You're gonna have Grimace playfull deck?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
What does coach Steve do showing up? He always got
big Max. Okay, this is great, and so come on,
come on, I put Grimace in goal. He's so big,
you've not yet block everything wearing gloves.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I don't know if he can actually catch anything.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Come on, Steve, think, come on, you think a little bit.
So again, we'll have more on this game coming up
in a few minutes. Again, and I think he can
catch gout that out. Yeah, drink a lot of grape
juice to.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Get rid of the game. You know, in every exhibition
you play in March Shamrock shakes.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh they Okay, I like that. I dig that. I
dig it. But look, we've seen a lot in NBA
free agency today and coming up in a few minutes,
we'll get into some of the other big moves. We
talked about the big acquisition of Klay Thompson to fifteen moves,
so many great moves, the biggest when you talk about money,
Jason Tatum. On the day the Celtics said yeah, we

(36:31):
want to sell the team, he agrees to a three
hundred and fourteen million dollar extension with the Celtics. He
has now the highest paid player in NBA history, assuming
the player option is picked up. Yes, yes, he is
not again highest paid player in NBA history.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
But I'm glad you connected those two that it's on
the day that Celtic's ownership group says, hey, we're going
to put up the team for sale, including pretty early
maybe this year, the majority stake in the team and
the rest as we go by.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
They say, like in the next year plus, they expect
it to close.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
And eventually all their shares are gone. Yes exactly, They're
not all sticking around with forty percent or no, nothing
like that. So the connection between the two is these
guys say publicly we're on the way out, and now
they have two three hundred million dollar players on the team.
What do they care?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, okay, but you realize that
the price of the team, we can't spend as much
for it because you just give a guy through a tea.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
You know, the word apron now and the collection of
argument agreement.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
That is the most popular word now in all of
the apron apron We're you knows.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
They're going to hit the third apron in Boston and
these owners won't be around for it. So who cares.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
It's going to be like me when I'm making grilled
cheese apron, all kinds of aprons. I don't want to
get burt. But the last year of Jason Tatum's contract
is set to pay him seventy one million dollars. Okay,
is that more than a towny. That's a little bit more.
It's a little bit more. He's going to defer all
that money on until you know, he's eighty years old
and then they're gonna pay No, he's getting paid. Uh

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so again seventy one million for the last year of
his contract. A couple of years ago, I said, the
way it's exploding, by the year twenty thirty, we're gonna
have one hundred million dollar a year player in the
NFL and the NBA. In the NFL, it's gonna be
a quarterback because obviously that those are the guys get
paid the most money. But now here we are in

(38:24):
twenty twenty four, okay, twenty twenty four, and already in
the NBA, now we have a guy making seventy one
million dollars a year. So you think of the next
six years, we're not gonna get up to one hundred
million dollars a year, fir a star. Yeahs gonna be
of course, there is.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
In other words, over a million dollars per game.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yes, that's exactly how it's gonna go. We are on pace.
Today was a huge day for that for my big
bold prediction because at seventy agren he's not gonna see
it for a few years. But right now, in twenty
twenty four, they have signed a guy to give him
seventy one million dollars in one year. We are gonna
see one hundred million dollar a year player in the
NBA and the NFL by twenty thirty.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
I'm tempted to say we're all ready to the point
where we need a separate salary cap for quarterbacks in
the NFL. First off, because the position, by the nature
of the sport, means so much. As we have seen
many times over the years, a team that loses its quarterback,
it's just not the same team on the field. The
position itself, regardless of the individual on that team, is

(39:25):
enormously valuable. And if you find somebody, I mean when
the US is playing in Arrowhead Stadium tonight, if you
find a quarterback, look what you can do with said quarterback.
If he's your guy, you can You know, we thought
they overpaid for mahomes. Now people people have lapped that contract.
There needs to be a separate somehow, a separate salary
cap to keep the quarterback still paid, still valuable, but

(39:49):
separate from the other x number of guys on the rust.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
You want to know something crazy, I remember saying this
on the show not too long ago, that I'm eventually
we're going to get to a point we need a
separate salary cap for the quarterbacks. It's gotta be some
kind of percentage of the salary cap because the salary
is going through the roof and it's too much to
try to compete. And I'm saying, when did I say that?
And I look on Twitter right when this when?

Speaker 4 (40:12):
When?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
When the story came out last found this that the
when the story came out last week that the owners
were talking about this idea. I said, I'm saying this
a couple of years ago, and I thought it was
a couple of years ago. So I go on Twitter
and I go, how about a Fresca quarterback salary cap?
I said that in twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen, I said, eventually,
this is in this back of quarterbacks only making thirty

(40:34):
million dollars a year. I said in twenties, guy, I
gotta have a separate salary cap for quarterbacks. Seven years later, Hey,
I think we did a separate salary cap for quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
We should rename the show. I don't know if you've
said that before.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Also, should I should have been running the league? I mean,
that's me. Forget about that. Hey, I would have taken
care of this besky quarterback thing seven years ago. But
now look where we are again. One hundred million dollars
a year player NBA and NFL by twenty thirty, Tatum
at seventy one million. It happening. And you know what's
gonna be the Knicks who give that guy one hundred million.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Dollars And it's gonna be Martin Stein.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Coming out next, we'll have the end of the United
States men's national team in the Cope America and more
on the biggest moves an NBA free agency. A star
studded show continues here on Fox.

Speaker 7 (41:17):
Jason, have good news? What's that USA is going home.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
In three games in this tournament?

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Not good? No, no, no Goali game.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, but let's talk for especially when you're playing Bolivia
and Panama as your other two opponents. Three total goals
in three games. And remember that opening fifteen minutes to
start the tournament against Bolivia was phenomenal. Yeah, in the
third minute, Polisic scores.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
And then they got to start out well, they got
to start out with one goal against the last place team.
The rest of the ninety minutes that night.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, So it wasn't good, not great, Bob, not great,
not great. But let me just say this about about
the game tonight, a couple of a couple of things,
because the two biggest topics of conversation are going to
be the officiating and Burholter. Okay, now, this was a
referee we knew in the very beginning of the game
didn't have a lot of experience. Rob Stone and the
guys were talking about it before the game, and he

(42:09):
clearly showed that. He showed that he lost control of
the game thirty minutes in. Uh when the play is
as physical as it is, there's no yellow cards out there,
the play gets out of control. And one thing that
you can say, Hey, United States, do we get a
fair shake officiating wise on the international stage. We don't.
Right the last time the United States got a call

(42:30):
that should have went their way, or calls it should
have gone their way international game, can't think of one
because they don't. They don't happen. We just don't get
their calls. And and the biggest thing from this tournament
is that the referees allowed the other teams, Panama and
Uruguay to dictate physical play without any sort of come

(42:52):
up and on it, without any sort of hey, this
was over the line. Here's a yellow card. This discount
they allowed the other teams because that's how the you know,
you know, teams that aren't as talented or or want
to rely on.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Clearly the case last game, oh.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Clickly with Panama, they allowed Panama to be as physical
as they wanted to when there needed to be calls
that really were able to that, that were able to
equalize the game a little bit. But the referees don't
do that, and we don't get those calls, So that
that's a that's a thing across the board international play.
United States doesn't get the calls the goal that Uruguay

(43:24):
scored tonight. Right now, Remember, even if this goal is disallowed,
which it should have been, we still wind up going
home because we tie this game and Panama wins. So yes,
we can, we can talk about the referees, but it
shocks me that the goal was not disallowed, especially with
var the irrefutable proof, because they showed after we talked
about it, they showed the replay of where they would

(43:45):
see the cutoff.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
From up high at the top of the stadium. That
camera angle clear, Yes.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Let's go back to that old camera angle. People were
complaining about but you can see Uruguay was offside instead.
Somehow it was not called. Again, United States, when do
we get calls in the international stage? We don't. And
that's a thing, and that's something I would bring up.
I'm not afraid to be the sore loser to say, hey,
how about the games are officiate a little bit more
equally here? How about the games aren't just given to

(44:12):
a team because oh, they're going to be more physical,
which allows us to equal out the playing field. How
about when we have var for a reason, you tell
me how this goal was allowed? Right? Again, we had
the official that didn't have a lot of experience, and
you had a var that completely screwed the United States
on that play. So, yes, the officiating needs to be better.
I would make this a point of contention, if on

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the United States, because we've seen in this tournament now
that's been a thing. We were not officiated like other
nations are, and that's a thing.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
However, it didn't decide tonight's game. And the team isn't
good enough And it starts at the top. I mean
US Soccer and their hire of this coach, and this
coach specifically as still Holden, former player Fox analysts for
this game in Kansas City Tonight said afterwards, I don't
want to hear the term golden generation applied to this

(45:01):
team until they actually do something. Anytime you get a
good group of young talent coming through on any national
team anywhere in the world, it gets dubbed a golden generation.
The difference is, even though we saw, for example, Belgium
crash out of the Euros today, they had a golden
generation because they got up to the top five of
the world rankings. England has gotten up to the top

(45:22):
five of the world rankings. The US twenty years ago
with Landon Donovan, that was our golden generation. As good
as these guys are in paper, and as often as
we have young talent actually going to play for the
big clubs in Europe, which never used to happen on
this type of scale, the results with the national team
are not there. The whole point is not to beat

(45:45):
the l Salvadors of the world. No offense. We couldn't
even beat Panama in this tournament, and the US all
time against Panama was seventeen and two with seven ties.
But you know what a year ago the US lost
to Panama on penalty kicks in a gold Cut semi final.
They lost to him in that very physical game. This
past Thursday. They don't score against first place Uruguay tonight

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and we have crashed out of a tournament we were hosting.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Uh yeah, so none of it's great again, not great, Bob,
not great, not great. But that's when you want to
get to what is next. And there's gonna be calls
that the hate watching for Greg Burholter to be fired
as head coach is going to be so loud after
this game. And look, to be honest, I'm not someone
that wants their round and always say, oh, this guy

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needs to be fired, this guy needs to be fired.
But there needs to be a change. Greg Burholter needs
to go simply because how long has it been for
the United States being a team that, Hey, it looks
like we're going in the right direction. We have a
lot of good players. It looks like it's been four
years of it looks like we're going in the right draft,

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and we're not.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
We got the first hope in the last four years
of consistent wins against Mexico and then come to fire
find out this is one of the worst arrows of
soccer for Mexico's national team. So those aren't quite the
victories that we thought they were.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
At the time. No, And that's a big overarching easy
thing to point to to say, are we getting better
or are we stagnant? Are we really getting better? Is
this United States men's team, Hey, we're so close to clicking. No,
we're not. No again, we look like a team when
I watch them play that they have talented, like to

(47:29):
bring it down to a youth level, right, just just
to make it an analogy that everybody can get. They
look like if I'm coaching and I see a youth
team and I see them and I know the boy,
they're really talented, and these kids are all really talented,
they're really good. And then you watch them play and
you say, boy, how often do they practice? Because they
don't look like they're in sync. They don't look like
they know they're anticipating where the other players are going

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to be. They don't always look like they are they
are in sync, mental sync with each other, knowing where
to be, knowing we're gonna go with the ball, how
they're going to attack, what the philosophy of the attack is,
other than get it to politic and see what happens.
So I mean, that's kind of how they look. And
and when when you can boil it down that way,
you understand, Okay, you're running the risk of apathy setting

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in and and and and and a sense of well,
maybe we're just not that good. Maybe maybe this is
as good as it's gonna get. Which it's time to
reach for bigger than that. It's time to reach for
bigger than.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
People have resources. This is the US look.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
And you see these players. You know they're good because
you see what they're doing, playing elsewhere, playing in Europe
and playing with So it's not like these guys are Hey,
we got to just only play in the MLS, right, These.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Politics scored more in Italy than with this US team.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, it's you. You know the players are good, and
you if you keep burr Halter, you run the risk
of just getting more of the same. And if it
was year two of bur Halter, or you've only seen
them for a little bit, I would say, you know what,
there's some time, let's wait and see. But again, this
is four plus years of the United States being hey,
maybe we're good, and if we're maybe we're good and

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you're not, well, Okay, it's time for a new direction,
because again, I know this direction is not working. Right
Like what I say, Hey, the Warriors had to get
rid of Clay Thompson, let him go. Why, Well, is
what they're gonna do next gonna work? I don't know,
but what they had been doing is not working, so
they hap to let Clay Thompson go in and figure
something else out. She let Draymond go to mainly because
he hates the Knicks, but they should let Draymond go to.

(49:24):
He's not the same guy, and I don't know if
that's gonna work, but I know what was going on
now wasn't working. The same thing with the United States
men's team is that I don't know if the next
manager would commit whoever they wind up getting, but I
know this way is not working, and you can see
it with the players. You can see the frustration. They
need to do that or they run the risk of
the program getting into a rut and the apathy will

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set in and it's hard coming back from that.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
And the best player for the US Polistic has been
one of the vocal supporters of this coach, so I'm
sure that had something to do with this coach being rehired.
For those unaware, after the last World Cup when we
went out the coach, his contract expired and they didn't
resign him, and there was some controversy about him and
a player, and they worked through all of that, and

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we had an interim coach month after month after month
with the US men's team, and then who did the
hire as the new coach to the old guy? And
that means that he has signed this coach that just
crashed out of Copa America tonight, he is signed through
the next World Cup, which the United States will co
host in twenty twenty six. So they've really got to
bite the bullet and say what is best for US

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as a national program to be able to field the
best possible team as co host of the tournament. The
entire world's attention is going to be here in the
summer of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
So you're going full office space, ask yourself, is this
good for the company?

Speaker 3 (50:49):
And the reason I bring up Mexico, by the way,
is because in this region, well for the longest time,
Mexico was the big fish in the little pond, and
then it became like the old big ten, where it
was the Big two and the Little League with Ohio
State and Michigan. For so many years it was US
in Mexico and they were great battles and the US
was finally equal of them once we got landon Donovan

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and Company about twenty years ago and beat them in
the World Cup no less, by a famed Dosa Serto score.
Anytime you meet a Mexico fan, it has to hello,
just those words.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Then, and then get ready, get ready, get ready, because
he's not your Mexican is not going to be happy.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
But Mexico right now stinks. There's no other way around it.
In the tune up games for these two teams, what
happened just in this past month. Mexico played this Uruguay
team and lost for nothing. US played Columbia and lost
five to one. If the US had even been able
to advance tonight, its quarterfinal would likely have been against

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Colombia or Brazil Saturday in Arizona. And then you crash
out spectacularly most likely. And then what does US Soccer say, Well,
at least we got out of group. Your group stunk.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
You had Bolivia.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Ranked eighty fourth in the world, and after the third minute,
you could only get one goal against them. The rest
of the night, you outshot Bolivia in that opener twenty
to six and it was only a two nothing final.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
What did I tell you? My big fear was for
the for the Copa America. We were gonna play just
well enough to keep them to say, well, we got
to keep things going. That's out the window now now
at least that's gone. I have to worry about that.
That is out the window right now. What do you got, Frostburg.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Now, everything you guys said for the last ten minutes
is great and all, but only one thing can save
the US soccer team.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Uh yeah, Oh no, dude, I can't give up Grimace
right now. The country, dude, can't. I can't give Grimace
up right now. I'm America is bigger than any one city.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Mister met You know.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
You know what you can have. You can have Officer
Big Mac. No you or the Hamburg. No, No, Grimace's
Grimace's powers are are focused right now on the Mets.
Must we trust Let's go. I can't. I can't. It's
not to you. I can't, Yes, it is take it.
I can't let Grimace go. You can't you can't just
come in and take grimas citizens around. You can't just
come in and grab him and go. Can't do that.

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Just kidnap Grimace and say above we're leaving.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
So US men's team is just going to be invisible
for I'll just say months plural, because this was the tournament.
This was the highlight of the summer. This was it.
They don't have anything else scheduled. There's no It's not
like when the women have a really good tournament then
they have this this tour of celebration where they all
make more money because they play city to city and

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just collect from all the gate receipts. This is not happening.
I don't know when we're going to see the US
men actually on the field again. The next focus is
the US women because we have an Olympics in Paris
coming up this month, and unlike men's soccer, your women's
World Cup team is essentially your women's Olympic team. The

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roster is slightly smaller, but it's essentially the same coming
up mid July. We're in July now. The US women
have two exhibitions with the new coach on the East
Coast before they fly to Paris.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Could we conceivably replace Greg Burholter with three people? Okay, no, no,
we replaced we know. Do we replace burr Halter with
Roy Kent, Nate the Great and coach Beard? And if
we get that, if Ted Lasso doesn't want to coach,
but we get the three of them, because if Ted's done,
I understand. But if we get between Beard and Nate

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the Great, what a great tactician. Roy will give the
attitude out.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
I mean, I think that works because as we see,
it doesn't have to be American born coaches. It doesn't
matter whoever.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Right now, your and Klinsman's going, Hey, guys, got my
number coming back?

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Do you remember your news to win games advance in tournaments?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
You're gonna bring them biscuits. EXA, I'll bring I'll bring biscuits.
I'll make sure they taste really good because I need
to keep Grimace. Mets need to keep Grimace. Uh. Coming
up next, NFL Insider Jason Locke and Forest offs By
all the latest news in the NFL. You know he's
going to be fired up about everything we just watch
in the cope America, keep it right here, Jason Smith,
Steve de Seg're in for Mike harmon Fox Sports Radio

(55:11):
The Jason Smith Show with Steve de Sega. In from
Mike Harmon, the United States has fallen to Uruguay won nothing.
They are out of the Copa America. Panama moving on,
Uruguay moving on the United States be moving on to
a new head coach. Well, we talked about why there
needs to be a change joining US now someone uniquely

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qualified to talk about USMNT and what's next and all
the latest goings on in the NFL. It's NFL insider
Jason locking for Check them out one oh five seven
the Fan in Baltimore on Odyssey Washington Post. Jay, I'd
ask you how you doing, but I think we're both
doing the same.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
After that game, Bomb, I'm fired up, And I don't
know about you, But I mean, like when I put
on Twitter, like I'm sharing for Uruguay, like I.

Speaker 8 (55:57):
Wasn't kidding.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Irony, Like I was at the bar cheering for a
year ye, like they is, Like I wish it was more.
I wish it was three narrow, Like I mean, that's
not like facetious or like cute.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, but here's the thing, though, Jamie.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Object failure clear the slate and it has.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Been, But are we sure that that's what's going to happen?

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Well?

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Are we sure the guy led the search for the
next coach and it was himself. I mean, I don't know,
are they really going to make that move.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
I think when they start to get hit, well, they
care about his money. Okay, they're greedy, speckless takes. So
now they're being hit in the wallet because, trust me,
they thought this tournament was gonna be a cash cash
it's not. People are acting like fifty five thousand seats
there were great, The upper ball was empty. A lot
of the club level was empty. I heard that the
AO guys who have been way too on this idiot's

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jock the whole time, are now booing him. But they're
not cheering him. They're not serenading him. They're not as
many matches in this tournament as they thought they were
going to, and they have to now worry about apathy
and interest heading into the.

Speaker 8 (57:07):
Only World Cup.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
We're gonna have this on our domestics sore at least.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
The rest of my life.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Like, the sponsors can't be happy, right, this is one
viewer game like it.

Speaker 8 (57:17):
All that gets.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Their attention is money and so they this needed to
be an emphatic thud, and it was a thud. And
if it's not emphatic enough, then it tells you everything
you need to know about who's in charge there and.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
What really matters.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
And then you could join me in my economic gihat
of them that's going on over six years, like you
could take the full step back and say, I'm not
giving you anything. I'm not finding jerseys. I don't care
how many kit changes you make, like I'm out until
you get real about what progress looks like and who
actually is has the wherewithal and the profile the resume

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to enact change. And then you let them come in
with a financial mandate and a mandate in terms of
their power and control over where we play when we play,
like it's Joe contre cast is the worst it's been
and forever, all these teams Hondurris Guatemala, Like I'm almost

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to remember when Trinidad and Tobago had this guy dwy
York who led the premiership in goals for Man United. Okay,
like they're all down and all these I'm gonna cuff
all all these goals you want to do is just
playing matches here against teams where they can run up
the score and not challenge anybody and.

Speaker 8 (58:43):
Not get exposed.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
The whole thing is a fraud. It's a con. They're
counting you, and I think if they do nothing here,
I saw at the moment they.

Speaker 8 (58:52):
Hired this a hole the first time.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
If they keep him in power, now, it's just going
to tell you that it's not about Bear Halter. It's
not about School of six, it's not about wings and losses,
it's not about.

Speaker 8 (59:04):
Growing the sport.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
It's just about their money. That's it. That's all they
care about is filling their coffers and stuffing their pockets.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Let's talk specifically about US Soccer in detail, because the
record for the US men since October, well, it's a
losing record now after tonight's loss and crashing out of
the Copa America tournament and over the past month only
five goals scored in the last five games. There was
an interim coach for quite a while recently, and then
they just rehired the old guy. How do we even

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get to that step? How does US Soccer think to
think that that's okay, that that's our solution, that we
as co host of the World Cup in two years
are going to charge forward with the old guy.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
I mean, there isn't any soccer or merit based discussion
to have about Greg Barreholter. He didn't deserve the job
when he got it the first He didn't do anything
exemplary in that first cycle to warrant a second cycle.
They reached the bare minimum of what they should have
done in the World Cup.

Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
And then he also had his.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Own personal situations with what was revealed about his wife,
the whole Geo arena situation, including quality arena like.

Speaker 8 (01:00:21):
That the fact that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
That wasn't enough was a joke, and then to have
this happen on top of it, and then okay, you
want to talk soccer style of play?

Speaker 8 (01:00:30):
What is the style of play?

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Who linked up in the final third tonight? What cunning
balls were put into the eighteen with multiple runners and
like who where was there any sense of an offensive
flow or rhythm even when they had possession, Like your
guy had nothing to play for and the US.

Speaker 8 (01:00:52):
Was stuck in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
It was a physical match. It was going to be
kind of a rock fight. They were up for the
rock fight, but there was nothing. There was nothing world
class about their ability to as you said, score the ball,
which ultimately matters, and they had to score the ball,
and probably score it multiple times once they started scoreboard

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watching and saw it was happening with Panama, and they
still got out chanced, They got outclassed. It's not like
the Uruguayan keeper was making save after safe. They couldn't
put anything on frame. I mean, Josh Sargent coming in
the game as lady as he did made no sense,
scally staying on as long as he did, like waiting
as long as he did, to start taking defenders off.

(01:01:36):
Like he's a clown. He's a complete and utter clown
who'd rather be right than be smart. He'd rather do
something stupid that works and he thinks makes him look
brilliant rather than do the right thing. The playing the
ball out of the back I mean, Turner looked awful.
He had way too much possession, like that whole thing, like, bro,
you're not reinventing the wheel.

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
It was a joke, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
They're a naive and they played like Petulan Brackt at times.
And ninety seconds after they find out the result, which
he couldn't wait to tell all them, they can see
a goal, was it offside.

Speaker 8 (01:02:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
All I know is they're not moving on and Panama
is and Canada is on American soil. That wouldn't have
been good enough in ninety six.

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
It's supposed to be good enough. Now it's a joke.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Jason Locking for our guest The Jason Smith Show, Steve
Di Sagerin and Mike Carmen. Now, outside of Burhalter, Jay,
when you look at the officiating from the last couple
of games, a couple of things are clear is that
the officials really allowed over the line play by both teams,
or by both teams the United States played to dictate
the physical pace of the game, which the referee tonight

(01:02:47):
was terrible. He lost control of the game thirty minutes
in and he allowed you're a guy to be over
the line physical, same thing Panama over the line physical
and the goal on var. I mean, what do we
have var for?

Speaker 8 (01:02:58):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I mean if that goal does because because that was offside.
The one thing I will the one thing I will
say is that on the international stage, we don't get
officiated like other nations do. Bar from burr Alter, I've
seen enough games now to know we don't get officiated
the same way.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
I don't know that sounds like sour graves. I mean
it's concocast against common ball, Like it's not always going
to be the beautiful game, Like it's going to get rough,
it's going to be murky. Bro. If they cared about
the quality of play, they play it on an actual pitch. Okay,
they bound down to NFL billionaires who don't want to

(01:03:34):
change their stadium. I mean it's a joke. So the
mixer is even more physical and normally be because we're short,
what seven eight yards? It is what it is like
they're telling you coming in. And even the MLS stadiums
where they could have had normal width, they condensed to

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make it uniform, Like, I mean, this is what it's
going to be. Do we have the wherewithal? Do we
have the fight, do we have the passion? And do
we have just enough of that touch of cunning that
making something out of nothing? And the one guy to
do it is belegant And he got knocked out, He
got physically run out of the match today and that's
really unfortunate.

Speaker 8 (01:04:16):
But this guy puts in petty, who.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
What do you think Kuny's going to do in this
kind of match, like what planning to we.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
Own where we think he's going, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
I just I give up? Like and if you think
it's the players, that's fine. We're not going to find
a whole new pool of players between now and twenty
twenty six. So if you think it's the players, then
you owe it to the players to let somebody else
have a run with them to see if they can
bring something out of him. And if you don't think
it's the players or not primarily the players, then it's

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obviously the manager playing a huge role in it and.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
His ass needs to go.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
So either way, there's no real Cojing argument to make
that there's been any progress in terms of style of play,
in terms of results, in terms of fan engagement, in
terms of expectations.

Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
So what is it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Well, if they're comfortable that they're still making enough money.

Speaker 8 (01:05:07):
Then he'll stay.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
If they feel like they have to count how the
public pressure and their sponsors and the fact that we're
losing matches. We're losing that like we should have had
a game against Brazil or Columbia that would have been
a ratings blockbuster. We didn't get that match because this
idiot couldn't get them through in a group that you
want to talk about officiating. How grit do you think
these groups were? I think everything he possibly could to

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get the US and Mexico.

Speaker 8 (01:05:30):
To go through and they still couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Both managers should be fired, both federations should be gutted,
and there should be a real critical rethink about which hearts,
which minds, which soccer tacticians need to be empowered to
try to turn it around.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
We had talked about Mexico earlier and they're hitting the
naydre in their program. It's a low spot. And now
wouldn't you say those US wins plural against Mexico in
recent years aren't looking as good because they're.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Very much.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
That's just as it's a fake tournament, another tournament, just
the key the US playing against teams it should beat
up on on home soil. Those games are all home matches,
and can I just that's County Camp is as.

Speaker 8 (01:06:18):
Low as it's ever been.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Yes, Canada has more world class players than they've had
since eighty six. There's an American Jesse Marrish running that
program now like they're on an uptick. But these teams,
based on what they had talent wise, ten years ago,
fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, almost all of them
are going. And re love to remember Honduras coming in
here to RK and work in the US three two

(01:06:42):
in a World Cup qualifier and that being like, oh
my god, what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 8 (01:06:48):
Like these teams like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Don't even compete in the hecks anymore, Like they're not
even a threat to go to a World Cup, like
and this is the best we can do, because again,
they don't really want to go to Europe a whole
bunch and play those We don't make as much money
off those matches, we don't get as much of the gate.
They're not in the prime time right, we're playing on
the European time clocks that they're five or six hours

(01:07:11):
off of where we'd want them. So let's not actually
do what's good for the program. Let's just keep beating
up on these minnos. Let's create another faith tournament just
against these minnos to try to cash in some more.
And who cares what it looks like in twenty twenty six,
because we're hosting all the games anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Now, Jay, let me close with this because this is
something that I think everybody can look at and go
what the hell was this about? You referenced it a
couple minutes ago. It's one thing. We see it in
the NFL a lot. We get to the final week
of the regular season and hey, if so and so loses,
we're in the playoffs. You can pull your starters. We
don't need to win this game anymore. At halftime. But
for Burhalter to tell polistic, hey, it's one one with

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Panamon Bolivia, like you're gonna change strategy because it's one one,
when the game is still have thirty five minutes left
to go, like the game's gonna end it one. I mean,
I don't get if the game ended one one, I get, Hey,
we just need to tie let let let We're gonna
change things up a little bit. This is why we're
doing this. But while the game still last thirty five
minutes left. I understand why you would do that, why

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you would tell your players.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
That he's a more what I mean, I appreciate, God
love him. He does a lot of things really well.

Speaker 8 (01:08:20):
He should not be taking set pieces.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
The fact that he talked his way back into that
role and then did it throughout this entire crashout. And yes,
they had the early yeah corner, that was cured, cute,
that was great. Then everybody thought, you're not gonna you know,
you're not gonna do that twice and they burned it
on Bolivia very early in the tournament, like okay, like
there are so many things, so many boxes that this

(01:08:45):
guy doesn't check, and they are naive, the red cards,
the surgenial desk road card, and then we get another
one with ya, Like they get a goal called back
on var and you could immediately against Panamon, they immediately
say they're just not very mature. And I think it
starts with an a whole coach who cares more about

(01:09:07):
which Air Force one he rocks on the sideline. Remember
this is an Idioto took a selfie with people during
a match, like during a match, like this is a
guy who loved to play the ball on the sidelines,
and he's like, he's a clown and he needs to
get the hell out of my life for good. I'm
sick of talking about him, I'm sick of looking at him,
I'm sick of having to even utter his name. Get

(01:09:27):
him the hell out of.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
My life, NFL inside of Jason lock and for he's
on Twitter at Jason lock infora again one O five
seven the Fan in Baltimore, Honesty, Washington Post, Jane, next
time we'll talk football. This was great.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Hopefully we talk about a new manager of the US
Natural the search.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
When it happens, we'll call you, buddy. Have fun, have
a great week. We got to know football. But it
was awesome. It was no football, but but look he's right.
The polistic set pieces were terrible.