July 2, 2024 • 40 mins
Jason Smith: "I'm not someone who is always calling for people to get fired, but there needs to be a change. Gregg Berhalter has to go. I don't know if the next manager will work, but I know this way is not working."
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a half hour ago, we yeah Jason lockin four on
with us who is on fire over the USMNT and
their loss Tonight to you Uruguay that knocked him out
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of the cop America. If you missed it, get it
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after the show. Ill find it on Twitter on Fox
Sports Radio. But I brought up to him and I said,
you know, the one thing outside of Berhalter is we
don't get officiated on the international stage like other teams do.
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And I brought up two points. I brought up the
fact that both Panama and Uruguay were able to dictate
physical play over the line, and which that needs to change.
Especially Panama was allowed to dictate play over the line
where this is where it's yellows and reds, and we
didn't see that. We saw the official Tonight was in
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over his head from the beginning and lost control of the.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Game a half hour and the captain, Christian.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm gonna get to that. I'm gonna get to that.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So we have that, and then we have the goal
by Uruguay, which on var was offside. Somehow it is
not defied. Uruguay gets to keep the goal. Now, in
the big picture, it didn't matter because Uruguay still was
going Even if we tied Uruguay, we're still going home, right,
So what happens now those two things definitely are things, right.
(02:15):
It's not something that you know, Jason Logerherst might be
sour grapes now and now after what we're going to
tell you about what happened with Christian Polistic after the game.
You know it's not We're just not officiated the same
way on the international stage. We don't get calls. We
don't get calls that you think we should. We got
knocked out of the World Cup a few years ago
because they missed a call on a different game. That
was when they had a goal that was clearly not
(02:38):
a goal that bounced off the post.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
They didn't look at var was and we got knocked
out because that goal was allowed to stay, because that
was a goal that knocked the United States out.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
And also on the world stage, part of the problem
is kind of like the Major League Baseball umpires union.
They'll just have everybody get a playoff turn or something
like that. Because they're a union they can do that.
Not on merit, everyone gets a road in. And at
the world stage they want people from all parts of
the world, good refs or not to participate, even though
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like these are the games that ultimately count more than
anything else.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So if you think, ah, because I'm not someone who
always blames the ref, I don't like to blame the referees.
We talked about it during the NBA playoffs, but just
a couple of things that I see.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Hey, I definitely bring that up if i'm USMNT.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Hey, you know what, we're not officiated like the other
teams in the world. Whether it's not going to cost them,
but it's a thing, whether it's an anti American bias
or not. And then following the game, now you tell
me if there's still not an anti American bias. Following
the game, Christian Polistic walked over to the referees to
shake their hands, which is one of the great traditions
in soccer. As bad as you can be as a referee,
(03:43):
whatever you say as a player, at the end of
the game, everybody shakes hands. Right, it's not quite the
here it is the Stanley Cup Final. The team's shaking hands,
the best tradition in all of sports. But you see that,
you see, no matter what happens during the game, no
matter what is said.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
The referees are standing together in a line and on
the side holding the ball that was used and not
leaving the field.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
First, yes, policit goes over to try to shake the
official's hands, and you can see he puts his hands out.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He says something.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know what it is, but whether it's I
don't know if he's he points to his left, I
don't know what he's saying, but he puts out his
hand to shake the hands of both referees.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Neither referee puts out their hand.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
In fact, the one official takes his hands and puts
them behind his back. So you tell me now if
there's something out there officiating wise America. When here's the
after the game is over, neither official would shake Christian
Politic's hand, the.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
United States captain.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
The captain walked over to get it to shake hands
with the officials after, and they wouldn't shake his hand.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And I believe that was the lead official in the middle.
They put his hands behind his bad his hand was
not his back, not the guy's holding the flags.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
No, uh, yeah it was. It was.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
They were completely turning about it. It looked really awful.
I mean they look awful because hey, you think Policic
did something to their family, Yeah, exactly, or they I'm
so sick of what he said during and who knows
what said during the game. But now it's over, right,
it's over. And you shake hands, and the officials wouldn't
shake his hand. You tell me that you do still
think we're officiated.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Christian Polistic went nuts when on a shot on goal
laid in the game. He thought that on the swing
of his foot, his foot was contacted by the defender
from behind and that it wasn't a clean block but
rather should have been a foul. And he went nuts
and one of his teammates finally separated him from the ref.
But clearly the ref took that personally.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
The fact that he turned to put his hands behind
his back tells you what they think the officiating of
the United States men's team. What did Polistic think about that?
This was him being asked about that after the game.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't want to talk so much about the rep.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
It does get frustrating, but yeah, that's what this tournament
is about.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So there is Yeah, I don't talk, but you know,
that's what this tournament is about. I mean, really, tell
me now if you think it's south with officiating in
the United States on the international stage, tell me.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I mean, you.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
See physical play dictated by two teams to only one.
That's not nearly as good as the United States. You
saw a bad decision made with var that was there
to overturn that replay. Nope, that goal is still allowed
to stand. There were step off sides and the official
won't shake his hand after the game. Yeah, tell me
we get officiated fairly.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Tell me, and I'll go down this road of this
tack of a conversation because we have spent so much time,
and we'll continue on this show tonight saying the US
would not have advanced anyway, and what they're doing on
the field is not good enough, and US soccer in
general and specifically this head coach not good enough. Those
are the main points. It's not like this thing that
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you're bringing up is something that should not at all
be brought up. The fouls that occurred in that previous
game last Thursday, when we gave up the late goal
of Panama, it was Panama nineteen fouls four for US
nineteen to four. It was that type of physical game.
And my analogy for that is, imagine a defender in
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the NBA that is constantly beaten on the drive into
the lane, cannot stop somebody on the dribble, and so
what he does is either trips or grabs their jersey
or their hair or bumps them or something because they're
not good enough. They don't have enough talent to play
them one on one. That's what Panama was doing in
that game theory.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So, and when you look in what Polistic is complaining
about at the end of the games, I get it.
When you are when you are sliding from behind and
you're not making a play on the ball, that's a
red card. Like it's easy, that's a red like it's
it's it's it's it's not even something where where No,
when you are not making a play on the ball
and you are and you are sliding at at a
player from behind, that's a red and and that's that's
(07:49):
just not call. We just don't get those calls that
we should get. I'm not saying we should get preferential treatment.
I would just like to see, Hey, I think the
United States gets officiated fairly like the rest of the
world does in an international stage, and we just don't.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And the red card the US got last game was legitimate.
It was a punch to the back of an opponent's head,
and tim waya with the bad response in a physical
game in the first twenty minutes of that game caused
the US to play ten on eleven for most of
the game.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Now I will say, now, wait, no, he needed to
get the red card. That was just That's what I'm
saying now, the very legitimate blew it in the beginning
because Turner got steamrolled and that's got to be a
yellow and.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
The goal doesn't brought out at halftime because of his
injury where there was no card given on that early collision.
Bruce leg Matt Turner had to leave it halftime Thursday
when they were shorthanded after the way a red card.
In that game, the US did score shorthanded in the
twenty second minute, but then Panama tied the game less
than five minutes later. And what happened tonight we find
(08:49):
out we mentioned it live as it was happening on
the show tonight, we find out in the other game,
Oh my goodness, Panama just gave up a goal to
last place Bolivia. We might be able to eke through
with a tie. And you see on the sidelines coach
Greg bolt Berholter screaming out with one index finger up
on each hand, yelling at his team as they're setting
(09:10):
up defensively for a free kick, it's one to one.
It's one to one, to which Clemt Dempsey, former US player,
says on the post game what is he doing yelling
at his players? And then on that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Free kick, guess who scores? The opponent in the US
falls behind again five seconds we had. Hey, things are
looking good now. Look, I understand the philosophy of in
a gig. Who is see it in the NFL that Hey,
we're going into week seventeen. Here's some clinching scenarios, and
if so and so wins the one o'clock game, a
team playing at four o'clock is in the playoffs, so
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it's irrelevant. So you know the end of the game.
So maybe you don't play your stars right your quarterback
plays a quarter and the backups play because you can't
improve your playoff seating. You don't want to get anybody hurt.
A little different than right before. You have to make
a third down stop right now. But that's it. If
the game is over. Understand that. I understand telling your day. Look,
this is what's going on. Wait, why am I coming out?
(10:04):
We can't do anything even if it's in the middle
of the game. Let's just say, hey, second quarter of
the four o'clock game comes in scenario dig you that, hey,
we don't need it, We don't need it, you're coming out,
But this.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Is in the middle of the bleeping game. It's one one, Like,
what does he think that? Like if just the fact
that he thought that was a good idea, what the
hell man?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Like, did he do that because he wanted to change tactics,
which is stupid because you can't change tactics while the
game is still okay, now we only need to tie.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
If we still has thirty minutes to go, if we.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Only need if that, if that game was over and
we only needed to tie, I get it. Hey, one
one tie. We need to preserve this goal differential. We're
gonna change time, right, We're gonna sit back a little
bit more. We're not gonna allow a goal. Uruguay doesn't
need anything. They're not gonna We're gonna sit back and
tie this game and move on like that, I understand,
But while the game's going on, like you're, oh, we're
gonna sit back now, Oh now we're gonna try because
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it's now now they scored against and now we.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Have to change time.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Like that's just stupid and if you think you're doing
that just to pump the team up.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Hey, guess what, guys, Olivia scored. It's one one. We
can do it. That's even stupider.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I mean, I I don't like I look at that
alone and I go Burholter is still the head coach.
That happens and he's still the bleeping head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Or you know, it got referenced earlier about he actually
was taking selfies during a game instead of coaching on
the sidelines. My video remembrance forever, and hopefully he's gone
as US coach soon, but forever of Greg Burholter was
how he likes to pick up the ball when it
comes across out of bounds on the sidelines and comes
(11:36):
toward his coaching area. And sometimes I remember once he
picked the ball up and behind his back threw the
soccer ball back to the guy who was gonna make
the throat.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
The game is just.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Like doing that?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
How about coaching?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I just like knowing that coach. Unlike Sophia Smith, I'm
gonna hide the ball on the bench and we can
get why.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
There was I will say Jenny Taft after Fox postgame
actually asked the US goalie Matt Turner about the coaching situation,
and his response was, well, First off, Clint Dempsey hated
that the question was asked because his response is, what's
the guy gonna say something negative about the coach and
now and then never plays again. But anyway, there is awful.
(12:18):
The response was, I see no issue with the direction
we're heading. When you have a fight like that on
the pitch every single game we're in this tournament, it
speaks volumes to how the manager prepares us trying against
teams that are better that you don't get gold stars
for that, you don't get an extra sticker. The direction
(12:38):
you're heading is not good. What planet are you on?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Wait, I'm getting some breaking news and right now, hang on, wait,
we hired Grimace. No no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
The USMNT has hired Angel Hernandez to be their new
head coach.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So there we go. We're going to say the ref
he is available any worse, Well, I know he won't pick.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Up the soccer ball on the sidelines because all he
does is keep his hands behind his back.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, so just think about those two things, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Telling the team what the score of the game, is
Oh my goodness, that's Burholter and the officials. He was
six hand. Those are the two things. The officiating in Burholter,
they go hand in hand.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Burholter not only put up his fingers up it's one
to one. He he motioned somebody to come over near
him because the guy couldn't hear him say it was
one one.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
He probably wanted to describe the goal. So here's what happened. Right,
They set up a free kick, and here's what No,
come here, can't let me tell you, to tell you
the opponent is about to take.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
A free kick and retake the lead on US guys.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It was actually him counting the two. Oh boy, oh boy,
I'm ready. I'm ready for an interview to be the
USMN take. I mean, I can tell you you guess,
so do something more.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I have more.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I don't care if he signed through twenty twenty six.
We're co hosting the world up in my country, in
my city. I don't want this team embarrassing me. US
soccer fan.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Steve Desager will pay out of his own paycheck to
get a new play because he.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Is one of those situations like in college where the boosters.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
It's so bad.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
They just raise their own money to get rid of
the coach. If we could, that's what we would do.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Hey, I need some cash on you?
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Why?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I'm sorry, but we got to get rid of this guy,
all right, So we wanted to get to that part
on Polisic and the referees, which is just insane.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Again, are we officiated like everybody else? We're not.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But coming up next you'll hear from Greg Burhalter postgame
is he the right guy to lead Team USA? And
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Sager in from Mike Harmon. I'll tell you, I don't
know what's a better conversation at this point, Burholter or
Kevin Ortega, the official from tonight's game. Okay, because this
story just keeps getting more bizarre as time goes on.
You thought the Kyle Philipowski stuff is bizarre over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Oh yeah no.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
So we talked a few minutes and you can hear
from Burholter coming up in the minute, I promise, But
this is just this is just so juicy. So Kevin Ortega,
who initially I think, wait, he's a guy that wrote
High School the musical and oh no, no, Kenny Ortega.
So so Kevin Ortega, thirty two year old. We talked
about him, gus his first assignment tonight doing USA.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And you're why in Kansas City today? And what did
I say?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
United States does not get officiated fairly on the international
stage and I pointed to the physical play that teams
were allowed to dictate against the United States over the
line physical play the var review tonight that.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Which is the goal on field official it's.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Different, But this goes This goes into my overarching point
that the United States doesn't get officiated fairly. That goal
should have been overall because it was offside. Doesn't happen.
After the game ends, Christian Polistic walks up to shake
the referees hands and Ortega puts his hands behind his
back rather than shake the captain of the United States hands. Right,
So again I tell you how fairly are we officiated?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now, here's what's coming out in the last few minutes
about Kevin Ortega. Okay, now, the end of last game,
when we played Panama and lost two to one, there
was a just repency over the amount of time left
extra time at the end of the game that maybe
there should have been more time left. Ortego was in
charge of the extra.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Time and we thought that at halftime tonight.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, Ortega was in charge of the of that. So okay,
that's one thing. But then I forgot about this and
actually a friend of mine texted me he's a huge
soccer fan like me.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
He was like, oh my god, dude, you.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Gotta look up the story of what happened with Boca
Juniors a couple of years ago. And I'm like, okay,
now he's refereeing Boca Juniors, which is a big powerhouse team,
and he and before the game and during the game,
he kind of awarded a soft penalty to the Boca
Juniors and they.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Were play and won the game.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And after the game, the police like it was such
a controversial officiating game by him. Police checked his locker
and found a whole bunch of Boca Juniors gear.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
In his locker.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
So you're saying, gear in his lucker.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Is this from the onion? No, that's a real thing, man,
I'm telling you it's a real thing, dude. I'm telling
you it's a real thing. They found out.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Now Boga Jue like, well, whoa wha, Well, we normally
give stuff to the off Okay, oh do you now
this is but you look at the way the game
was officiated again, there was enough.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
There was enough there.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That the police says, where in Na Kota, I mean,
you're talking about that here in the United States. The
police like going to the officials after a Chiefs game,
going hey, uh, you really helped Mahomes out there on
that roughing the passer call. And they go to his
locker and final Mahomes has autographed all a bunch stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
What if in a Scott Foster locker we actually found
a bunch of Chris Paul Jerseys.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I mean, just think about it.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And this is the guy who gets the assignment for
the United States game against Uruguay. This is the guy
who's been now on the crew twice now for United
States loss.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And by the way, the assignment coming from Common Bowl
is the name of the South American Football Federation, the
people that put on Copa America every few years. They're
set normally the South American Championship. The same people who
decided that to start tonight's telecast, having your main camera
in the top row at the top of an NFL
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stadium was a good idea, yeah, when it looked like
the All twenty twos vision. And this is also the
organization putting on this tournament that thought it was a
good idea to just a few days before you host
the game on top of NFL artificial turf, lay down
grass right before you're going to play the game. Don't
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let it grow in for a few weeks. Just go
ahead and roll it out on top, and then the
football team can be happy to have its artificial turf
back after the tournament.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yea, these are all phenomenal decisions. These are all just
four not plastic decisions. But I mean, think about that,
because again I don't like to talk about the refereeing
all the time, but there's just so much smoke and
fire here. I mean, think about not shaking Polistic's hand,
Like how do you not do that?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I mean really, and now, I mean just just think
what you open up Like I'm picturing the.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Police, like in a movie when the police come in
and they're yelling in a foreign language you can't understand,
and they open the locker and like all this gear
comes falling out, like all the ground.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't know how they got there. I don't know
what you're talking about. This guy get to do Copa
America next time.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
This guy does a US game, Polisic as the captain
before the game. Instead of exchanging those little banners, he
needs to give him a Polisic jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Here and I autographed it, and I actually get a
shake hand afterwards.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I mean real again, and you say, oh, well, maybe
Jason's right.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Maybe maybe we don't get it officiated the right way
on an international stage.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Maybe we don't.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, I'm not saying there's not smoke there, but we
both agree that the US offense, and this comes down
partly from coaching, is so horrendous. Yeah, they wouldn't have
gone anyway, but it doesn't It doesn't help that you're
not officiated fair Again, to go to quote John Oliver,
how is this okay?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I mean, how is this okay?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
That this it's like you know, you mentioned Scott Foster
when I say, and this is where I get even
bigger conspiracy theory about officiating NBA is that the NBA
they know who they're sending to games, right.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
They know.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's why Scott Foster's nickname is the Extender. They know
when a team is down to zip, he gets a
lot of works. Send this guy to a game because
they know what they like to call, and they know
the NBA knows who they're sending. Doesn't mean that every
game turns out that way, but they know that, hey boy,
if we send this official here, we're likely going to
get a win. We're talking about now a seven game
series or something. They know who they're sending. You gotta
(21:27):
think the same thing here, right, you know who you're
sending to go do this game that the United States
needs to win. And you see the way this game
was officiated tonight, and hey, okay, we don't want the
United States to win, right, We just we just have
that hate for them across the board. We don't want
their soccer program to succeed. Like it's it's a it's
a bad look the United States, who we've just been
(21:47):
beating down for so long. No, there's still that hate
on the international stage. They know who they're sending to
do this game.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
The problem with the previous game, when the US loss
giving up the Lake goal to Panama on Thursday, the
problem was the referee, and that's a different guy for
that different game. The referee didn't put his foot down
early in the game. It got rough early, and he
didn't say, hey, we're not going to have this, not
only because I'm in charge, but because by the way,
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these are against the rules, the things that are happening.
So it wind up nineteen fouls to four Panama and
they escaped with a win anyway. Tonight we had that's what,
twenty three fouls total? We had twenty four fouls actually
called in this game, but they called it even at
twelve fouls apiece.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Now, again, we've been back and forth between the officiating
and the.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Burholter side of it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Both are completely responsible for contributing to the way where
United States soccer is right now. Burholter needs to go.
He needs to be replaced. But before we tell you why,
let's listen to him. He was asked after the game, Hey,
things aren't good man, the United States got knocked out
of Copa America. Are you the right man to be
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leading this United States program?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
And here's his answer, As you just said, you felt
like this team didn't perform well and could perform better.
The decisions not up to you as to whether you continue.
But do you believe that you still are the right voice,
the right person with this group to push it forward
ahead of the twenty six World Cup and into the
twenty six World Cup?
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, The question was twenty times longer than the answer.
What do you expect him to say? Nah, dude, I've
lost my touch. Man, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Here. I really don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I don't know some of the guys I was putting
in the game taken out of the game.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Maybe maybe maybe he knows that we're saying it for him.
He's gonna realize that we are not talking just about
tonight's game. We are not talking about one loss or
even one tournament. In the tune up for this tournament,
a month ago, the US played a good team, a
top twenty team in Colombia, and lost five to one.
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We were going to play either Colombia or Brazil this
weekend in a quarterfinal. If we had been able to
advance tonight, the US goal should be let's not keep
being satisfied by wow, we played a tough game against Panama,
or wow, we beat Al Salvador again, or this. You
should have bigger fish to fry for crying out loud.
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If according to the controversial FIFA rankings, you're somehow a
top twenty team like Mexico is somehow still a top
twenty team. The US men have never done what happened
to them tonight. That is, you win your opener of
group play of a tournament and still crash out of
the tournament. Without advancing out of the group. We won
the opener against Bolivia just over a week ago. Bolivia,
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a team ranked eighty fourth in the world Christian Polistic
scores in the opening minutes and we only got one
game against that woeful last place team, one goal the
rest of the game that night, barely a goal against
Panama and no goals against Uruguay, a real opponent tonight.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Now, when it comes to firing coaches, I'm not some months.
This guy stucks. He needs to go here. But this
is why the United States needs a change and needs
somebody else. Because you can argue about Burholter's strategy. Oh,
you know, should he play Balligan more at striker? Should
he play Peppy Moore? You know what's going on? Do
we need to do something at keepers? Is Matt Turner
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still is good? The strategy stuff you're going to disagree on,
and I get that, but just take a step back
for a second. Look at where the United States soccer
is right now. It's been four years with him, and
we're not any better. The players are better, and we
know this because of where they're playing across the globe
compared to where United States players were playing across the
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Globe years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, famous clubs want some of our players.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
We have more talent now than we've ever had. And
still United States Soccer is maybe we're good. We were
in the maybe we're good stage four years ago. So
we've had four years of Burholter, right we had the
flaming out in the world, We had the the the
personal situation he had with with Claudia Rena and his
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family not playing him back and forth. He had the
situation with his wife. You had a lot of controversy
involving Greg Burhalter, and you were gonna replace him, and
you still decided to bring him back. And now when
you look at the United States men's national team and
the program at best, where where we were four years ago,
and that's not good enough. You can't you can't say, well,
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maybe we're getting it. And I know the players are
going to say good things about the coach. They don't
want to be seen as coach killers, and I understand that,
and that's what you expect them to say right now.
You're not gonna better to say, no, we need somebody
new right away. But you look at when a program
is no better off than they were four years ago, yeah,
you make a change in any sport. If an NFL team,
guys even get four years in the NFL, you know
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if you have a bad two years, no, you're done.
Because the reason the US needs a new voice is
because now you're risking apathy setting in, and you're risking
a lot of people pulling the plug on the men's
national team. Players who have supported the program for so
long are gonna pull the plug on it. You're gonna
see a sense of apathy said into the program. We're
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not gonna be any good. I'm not gonna go crazy,
And then you're gonna see a trickle down to the
players who are actually playing. Are they gonna leave their
clubs to continue to play in the men's national team?
We're not any good. You can't have apathy set in.
It's in any sport. That's when you change a head coach.
Right when Syracuse fired Dino Babers this year and they
brought in Fran Brown, who now all of a sudden,
is doing things I never thought Syracuse could do. He's
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got a top twenty five recruit. Like Syracuse is mired
in the bottom of the ACC and football, but suddenly
he's got a top twenty five recruiting class. We brought
in Kyle McCord from Ohio State. It's like, look what
he's doing. They fired Dino Babers because the ad John
Wildhack said, you know, we can't keep going and have
this malaise surrounding the program. And it's about the people
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who are putting money in nil you have to you
risk a malaise setting in and all of a sudden
your team is not the best they can be. And
that's what it would be if if the US team
goes forward with Greg Burholter. That's what we'll set in.
The malaise will set it for the people from whether
it's it's it's US soccer that needs to be able
to find a new coach or put resources into the team,
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or the players who have to decide if they want
to play. Are they going to be motivated every game
or are they going to be players that boy, they
look really flat tonight or do they enjoy playing for
this coach. That's what you risk happening and an overall
downtick in US soccer when we should be at the
top level. That's the reason why you need a new cut.
The strategy stuff, yes, agreed, disagree. I understand that that's
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one side. That's one side of the coin, the other
side of the coin. But this is just facts you
can't ignore. Look at where the team is now compared
they were. Look at where they're headed. Do you have
any confidence that the team is head in the right direction?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
You don't. You see us, we're not.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Getting better, and it's an easier way to decide, Hey,
should we fire head coach?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Let's see, well, each year we've kind of got a
little worse. Oh that means you need somebody new.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
The standard should not be did we be eat Jamaica
and Guatemala and El Salvado or Trinidad or even Mexico. Now, yeah, Mexico's.
Mexico's in a really bad spot these days. They have
like nobody that shines on the field. We should be
passing them at this point and we both crash out
of this tournament. Let's end with this quote on Fox
postgame on FS one tonight with Clint Dempse, former star
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scorer for the US team.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Where we progressed and we have it to Lexi's point,
and that's the most frustrating part. This is our golden generation.
It looks like we're wasting it, and twenty twenty six
coming up, you're never going to get this opportunity again.
I mean ninety four we had it. We're going to
have it here. But then you don't know when that
next time is going to come. When are you gonna
have a better chance to do something special in a
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world winbre.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You there, it is.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Nobody look as unhappy as we are. We're like the
JV compared to Lalls and Carly Lloyd.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And Clint Depsy.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
They're old so mad. But you talk about sparkling play.
Steve has that right now. To tell you all about
Jad Martinez and what he did for the Mets tonight
in their wins over the Nationals.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
We might actually get to some good news for some people,
but for most Americans, well, I mean in a backwards way,
this was kind of a good night potentially for some Americans.
Because you mentioned it last week, some US soccer fans
will be hate watching this copa America game from Kansas
City tonight. If it's as bad as we thought it
was going to be, maybe they'll finally get rid of
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coach Greg Berhalter standing by because it was bad The
US got shut out, won nothing Erguay the final. The
US is eliminated in Copa America. Despite the fact that
we won our first of the three games, the US
only had three total goals in the three games. The
record for the US men since October it's a losing
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record five six and one. Brazil's group finale is tomorrow
night on FS one at the Euros in the round
of sixteen. France and Portugal with wins today's winners will
now play against each other in a fright quarterfinal. That's
right after the Friday Spain at Germany match. By the way,
three MLB games tonight, Colorado took the late game in
ten innings, eight seven over Milwaukee, the Rockies injured with
(31:12):
a record of twenty eight and fifty five. The Mets
record is up to forty one and forty one. How
is this happening? A ten inning win at Washington tonight
nine to seven.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
JD.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Martinez with a three run homer in a six run
top of the tenth, and then they held on the
loss to Nationals reliever Hunter Harvey. This guy was a
great setup man for most of the season this year,
and now in his last three and a third innings.
He's allowed eight earned runs. His era before this was
two point six eight. It has gone to say the
(31:44):
least south. The Mets started to.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Waitit wait, wait, wait Hunter, Henry pitch tonight.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
No, that's amazing, Harvey. Sorry, he didn't have any receptions
all right. Drvin Peterson three and zero was the Mets starter.
No decision for his six and a third innings. Houston
won today three to one at two Torodo. Vladimirga Road
junior of the Blue Jays did not play sore hand
after being hit by a pitch yesterday. The Celtics agreed
to a five year extension with Jason Tatum worth over
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three hundred million dollars including the player option. Derek White
got a four year extension from Boston worth more than
one hundred and twenty five million dollars including a player option.
Celtics ownership plans to put the team up for sale.
Philadelphia gave Tyrese Maxie a five year deal with over
two hundred mil, and the seventy six ers will find
signed Paul George to a four year Max contract for
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over two hundred and ten mil. They already have similar
money invested in joelmb Tobias Harris agreed to a two
year contract with Detroit worth over fifty million dollars. Dallas
acquired Klay Thompson from Golden State in a sign and trade,
and there were two WNBA games tonight, Connecticut now fifteen
and four after winning at Phoenix eighty three to seventy two,
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Seattle at home RiPP Dallas ninety five seventy one, Dallas
record now four and fifteen. Cocoa goff with a first
round treat. Wimbledon back to you.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Thanks a bunch of stevelle. So we'll have more on
the USMNT coming up in a few minutes, and who
knows what officiating stuff we might find out, But straight ahead,
it is very rare that an NBA team makes the
right decision in letting a star player leave, and that
another team makes the right decision by signing that player.
(33:22):
But that happened today. That's next right here, Jason Smith,
see Di Desager and for Mike Harmon this as Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (33:35):
United States.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Lost to your Why we are out of the code
uh Mets beat the Nationals, and extra inings. Those are
the big scores of the night and night Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
By the way, way, I did see video of right
after the US lost in Kansas City tonight. The team
captain Christian Polisic is on the field motioning to the
refs standing on the side, Hey, come over to this side.
You should be celebrating with Maybe that's what through them
and why he wouldn't shake.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
His hand No, or was that after the handshake thing.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
No, before he actually physically motioned them over and then
pointed to.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
They hold them up Kevin ortagas they take him off
on his shoulders like.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Maybe Jersey two of the controversial plays. By the way,
and and the Fox Soccer twitter feed did give a
compilation of the moments from the FS one telecast. You
remember when there was an actual seemingly stoppage of the
game because the referee called a yellow card on the
US actually took it out of his pocket, had it
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in his hand and the yellow cards starting to be
raised in the air, and instead quickly restarted, put the
soccer ball on the turf and restarted the play and
almost scored while the ref was giving and let it go.
Was giving a yellow card astounding And another time.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm going to keep the United States' attention on my
yellow card.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
School look at the verdi Oh gotcha?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Another time is remember defensively, the US was trying to
kick the ball away out of its own goal bocks
and it hit a hand of an Uruguay player. Could
have been a handball, but the ball deflected off the
hand straight to the US and they started the attack
up to midfield, and then play was stopped by the referee.
Like what now that's not advantage at all, that's quite
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the opposite. Now you're going to call the handball and
the team with the ball has to stop playing and
come all the way back and start from in their
own goal box.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Again, what have I said all night tonight? Do we
really get officiated on the same level as all the
other teams internationally?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
So maybe we understand why the team captain was motioning
the referees to the winning side of the field.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
So we'll have more on this story coming up in
a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
But look, big of days an NBA free agency and
clearly one of the big stories today. Klay Thompson has
a new home, goes to Dallas Mavericks three years and
fifty million dollars. Wait, I thought Lebron talked to him.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
He did.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
He said, Hey, come here and we'll give you money. Well,
are you going to take less money?
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well that's well, how much do you need? I'll call
you back less than fifty Is that what you've mean?
So Lebron apparently still not a great GM because Klay
Thompson goes to the Mavericks. Yeah, and three years and
fifty million.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Emphasis on the word still in that sentence, by the way.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
And hey, Dallas, we could have given you d lo
if you want, and we gotta come on mail.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You had that.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So this is one of those rare moves that the
Warriors letting him go was the right move, and the
Mavericks signing him was the right move. The Warriors need
to start over, right. I've said this for a while.
I don't know if the next invention of the Warriors
is going to win, but I know this invention is not.
Clay is not the player he was. Draymond is not
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the player he was. Steph is the closest he was.
He's still in All NBA First second Team talent guy. Yes,
so let's try to figure things out around him. I
don't know if that'll work, but I know what we've
just been seeing isn't working because those players aren't the same.
So you need to move on. It was a tough decision,
you know, Clay is bitter. Uh picked his team in
the Western Conference very quickly. The No's can win. I
(37:17):
gotta win this war I gotta win the breakup with
the Warriors. So yes, I get why the Warriors let
him go. They had to because he wasn't the same guy.
But Dallas getting him he's what they need. You look
back at the finals and the Celtics won. One of
the main reasons everybody on the Celtics can hit threes.
They all hit their threes.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
They were the.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Number one team three point shooting wise during the season,
and they came out and they came through. In the
NBA Finals, Dallas was number three. D Dallas is a
terrible three point shooting team. They were number three, but
in the finals they were all like. They were twenty
six for eighty seven from three point range in the
in the NBA Finals is awful.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
That's only two games worth a threes for the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So if you get Klay Thompson, who will be able
to hit threes, not have to be the second best
player on the team, and he's okay with coming off
the bench, a lesser role, whatever it's going to be,
because hey, let's face it, you already have two guys
starting a guard that are going to see a lot
of minutes. That's a great move. You have the leadership
that he brought in, the guy that's one championships, He's
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hit big shots in big moments. He's another option at
the end of games, not just well, here's Luca's going
to try to do it himsell for Kyrie. This was
a great signing by the Dallas Mavericks. Shows they really
want to continue to go for it, and he will
fit into that team exactly how they expect him to.
Luca and Kyrie will have the Lion's share of the minutes,
the Lions share of the responsibility, but Clay's going to
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have his spots, whether it's with the second unit some
other way, and he's going to be our next big score.
That's exactly what they need. The Warriors had to get
rid of him, and the Mavericks need him it worked
for both teams.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
And technically a sign in trade. I'd read a couple
of second rounders through to Golden State. But Klay Thompson
you mentioned off the bench played about fifteen games off
the time bench last year, his most appearances off the
bench since he was a rookie, so over a decade ago.
This guy's been in the league a while.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Now.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Let's not forget he's twenty points a game for his
career and was still eighteen points a game for the
Warriors last year, and in fact played more games last
year than he had in five years. So his career
is not over just because he's lesser in the shooting percentage.
This is a pickup. This is a nice pickup.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah. No, Again, it sounds weird to say, well, it
was right to let him go.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Usually it's hey, a team needed to let him go, Well,
good luck with somebody else who signed him, or boy,
you made a mistake letting him go. The other team
really did well getting him. No, I see it both
here because Clay and Draymond too, they have value, but
they have more value with other teams where they can
have different roles than they do with the Golden State.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Warriors.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Because as much as you want to say, hey, it
can still work in Golden State, are you really gonna
get Draymond and clay to both come off the bench
play less minutes, less responsibility. No, they've been those guys
there for a long time. They're not suddenly going to say, hey,
I'm okay being the fourth best guy the team doesn't
work that.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
It also would have been potentially very expensive for Golden
State to keep him around. They're probably wiping their brow
secretly a few weeks ago and say, oh, wasn't it
so good that Clayton say yes to that money that
was on the table.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
He could have had good move by tight doesn't happen
that often, but it did. Coming up next Jason Smith
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a half hour ago, we yeah Jason lockin four on
with us who is on fire over the USMNT and
their loss Tonight to you Uruguay that knocked him out
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of the cop America. If you missed it, get it
on the Best of Podcasts that goes up on iTunes
after the show. Ill find it on Twitter on Fox
Sports Radio. But I brought up to him and I said,
you know, the one thing outside of Berhalter is we
don't get officiated on the international stage like other teams do.
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And I brought up two points. I brought up the
fact that both Panama and Uruguay were able to dictate
physical play over the line, and which that needs to change.
Especially Panama was allowed to dictate play over the line
where this is where it's yellows and reds, and we
didn't see that. We saw the official Tonight was in
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over his head from the beginning and lost control of the.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Game a half hour and the captain, Christian.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm gonna get to that. I'm gonna get to that.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So we have that, and then we have the goal
by Uruguay, which on var was offside. Somehow it is
not defied. Uruguay gets to keep the goal. Now, in
the big picture, it didn't matter because Uruguay still was
going Even if we tied Uruguay, we're still going home, right,
So what happens now those two things definitely are things, right.
(02:15):
It's not something that you know, Jason Logerherst might be
sour grapes now and now after what we're going to
tell you about what happened with Christian Polistic after the game.
You know it's not We're just not officiated the same
way on the international stage. We don't get calls. We
don't get calls that you think we should. We got
knocked out of the World Cup a few years ago
because they missed a call on a different game. That
was when they had a goal that was clearly not
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a goal that bounced off the post.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
They didn't look at var was and we got knocked
out because that goal was allowed to stay, because that
was a goal that knocked the United States out.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
And also on the world stage, part of the problem
is kind of like the Major League Baseball umpires union.
They'll just have everybody get a playoff turn or something
like that. Because they're a union they can do that.
Not on merit, everyone gets a road in. And at
the world stage they want people from all parts of
the world, good refs or not to participate, even though
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like these are the games that ultimately count more than
anything else.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So if you think, ah, because I'm not someone who
always blames the ref, I don't like to blame the referees.
We talked about it during the NBA playoffs, but just
a couple of things that I see.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Hey, I definitely bring that up if i'm USMNT.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Hey, you know what, we're not officiated like the other
teams in the world. Whether it's not going to cost them,
but it's a thing, whether it's an anti American bias
or not. And then following the game, now you tell
me if there's still not an anti American bias. Following
the game, Christian Polistic walked over to the referees to
shake their hands, which is one of the great traditions
in soccer. As bad as you can be as a referee,
(03:43):
whatever you say as a player, at the end of
the game, everybody shakes hands. Right, it's not quite the
here it is the Stanley Cup Final. The team's shaking hands,
the best tradition in all of sports. But you see that,
you see, no matter what happens during the game, no
matter what is said.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
The referees are standing together in a line and on
the side holding the ball that was used and not
leaving the field.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
First, yes, policit goes over to try to shake the
official's hands, and you can see he puts his hands out.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He says something.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know what it is, but whether it's I
don't know if he's he points to his left, I
don't know what he's saying, but he puts out his
hand to shake the hands of both referees.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Neither referee puts out their hand.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
In fact, the one official takes his hands and puts
them behind his back. So you tell me now if
there's something out there officiating wise America. When here's the
after the game is over, neither official would shake Christian
Politic's hand, the.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
United States captain.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
The captain walked over to get it to shake hands
with the officials after, and they wouldn't shake his hand.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And I believe that was the lead official in the middle.
They put his hands behind his bad his hand was
not his back, not the guy's holding the flags.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
No, uh, yeah it was. It was.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
They were completely turning about it. It looked really awful.
I mean they look awful because hey, you think Policic
did something to their family, Yeah, exactly, or they I'm
so sick of what he said during and who knows
what said during the game. But now it's over, right,
it's over. And you shake hands, and the officials wouldn't
shake his hand. You tell me that you do still
think we're officiated.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Christian Polistic went nuts when on a shot on goal
laid in the game. He thought that on the swing
of his foot, his foot was contacted by the defender
from behind and that it wasn't a clean block but
rather should have been a foul. And he went nuts
and one of his teammates finally separated him from the ref.
But clearly the ref took that personally.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
The fact that he turned to put his hands behind
his back tells you what they think the officiating of
the United States men's team. What did Polistic think about that?
This was him being asked about that after the game.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't want to talk so much about the rep.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
It does get frustrating, but yeah, that's what this tournament
is about.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So there is Yeah, I don't talk, but you know,
that's what this tournament is about. I mean, really, tell
me now if you think it's south with officiating in
the United States on the international stage, tell me.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I mean, you.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
See physical play dictated by two teams to only one.
That's not nearly as good as the United States. You
saw a bad decision made with var that was there
to overturn that replay. Nope, that goal is still allowed
to stand. There were step off sides and the official
won't shake his hand after the game. Yeah, tell me
we get officiated fairly.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Tell me, and I'll go down this road of this
tack of a conversation because we have spent so much time,
and we'll continue on this show tonight saying the US
would not have advanced anyway, and what they're doing on
the field is not good enough, and US soccer in
general and specifically this head coach not good enough. Those
are the main points. It's not like this thing that
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you're bringing up is something that should not at all
be brought up. The fouls that occurred in that previous
game last Thursday, when we gave up the late goal
of Panama, it was Panama nineteen fouls four for US
nineteen to four. It was that type of physical game.
And my analogy for that is, imagine a defender in
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the NBA that is constantly beaten on the drive into
the lane, cannot stop somebody on the dribble, and so
what he does is either trips or grabs their jersey
or their hair or bumps them or something because they're
not good enough. They don't have enough talent to play
them one on one. That's what Panama was doing in
that game theory.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So, and when you look in what Polistic is complaining
about at the end of the games, I get it.
When you are when you are sliding from behind and
you're not making a play on the ball, that's a
red card. Like it's easy, that's a red like it's
it's it's it's it's not even something where where No,
when you are not making a play on the ball
and you are and you are sliding at at a
player from behind, that's a red and and that's that's
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just not call. We just don't get those calls that
we should get. I'm not saying we should get preferential treatment.
I would just like to see, Hey, I think the
United States gets officiated fairly like the rest of the
world does in an international stage, and we just don't.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And the red card the US got last game was legitimate.
It was a punch to the back of an opponent's head,
and tim waya with the bad response in a physical
game in the first twenty minutes of that game caused
the US to play ten on eleven for most of
the game.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Now I will say, now, wait, no, he needed to
get the red card. That was just That's what I'm
saying now, the very legitimate blew it in the beginning
because Turner got steamrolled and that's got to be a
yellow and.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
The goal doesn't brought out at halftime because of his
injury where there was no card given on that early collision.
Bruce leg Matt Turner had to leave it halftime Thursday
when they were shorthanded after the way a red card.
In that game, the US did score shorthanded in the
twenty second minute, but then Panama tied the game less
than five minutes later. And what happened tonight we find
(08:49):
out we mentioned it live as it was happening on
the show tonight, we find out in the other game,
Oh my goodness, Panama just gave up a goal to
last place Bolivia. We might be able to eke through
with a tie. And you see on the sidelines coach
Greg bolt Berholter screaming out with one index finger up
on each hand, yelling at his team as they're setting
(09:10):
up defensively for a free kick, it's one to one.
It's one to one, to which Clemt Dempsey, former US player,
says on the post game what is he doing yelling
at his players? And then on that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Free kick, guess who scores? The opponent in the US
falls behind again five seconds we had. Hey, things are
looking good now. Look, I understand the philosophy of in
a gig. Who is see it in the NFL that Hey,
we're going into week seventeen. Here's some clinching scenarios, and
if so and so wins the one o'clock game, a
team playing at four o'clock is in the playoffs, so
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it's irrelevant. So you know the end of the game.
So maybe you don't play your stars right your quarterback
plays a quarter and the backups play because you can't
improve your playoff seating. You don't want to get anybody hurt.
A little different than right before. You have to make
a third down stop right now. But that's it. If
the game is over. Understand that. I understand telling your day. Look,
this is what's going on. Wait, why am I coming out?
(10:04):
We can't do anything even if it's in the middle
of the game. Let's just say, hey, second quarter of
the four o'clock game comes in scenario dig you that, hey,
we don't need it, We don't need it, you're coming out,
But this.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Is in the middle of the bleeping game. It's one one, Like,
what does he think that? Like if just the fact
that he thought that was a good idea, what the
hell man?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Like, did he do that because he wanted to change tactics,
which is stupid because you can't change tactics while the
game is still okay, now we only need to tie.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
If we still has thirty minutes to go, if we.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Only need if that, if that game was over and
we only needed to tie, I get it. Hey, one
one tie. We need to preserve this goal differential. We're
gonna change time, right, We're gonna sit back a little
bit more. We're not gonna allow a goal. Uruguay doesn't
need anything. They're not gonna We're gonna sit back and
tie this game and move on like that, I understand,
But while the game's going on, like you're, oh, we're
gonna sit back now, Oh now we're gonna try because
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it's now now they scored against and now we.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Have to change time.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Like that's just stupid and if you think you're doing
that just to pump the team up.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Hey, guess what, guys, Olivia scored. It's one one. We
can do it. That's even stupider.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I mean, I I don't like I look at that
alone and I go Burholter is still the head coach.
That happens and he's still the bleeping head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Or you know, it got referenced earlier about he actually
was taking selfies during a game instead of coaching on
the sidelines. My video remembrance forever, and hopefully he's gone
as US coach soon, but forever of Greg Burholter was
how he likes to pick up the ball when it
comes across out of bounds on the sidelines and comes
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toward his coaching area. And sometimes I remember once he
picked the ball up and behind his back threw the
soccer ball back to the guy who was gonna make
the throat.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
The game is just.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Like doing that?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
How about coaching?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I just like knowing that coach. Unlike Sophia Smith, I'm
gonna hide the ball on the bench and we can
get why.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
There was I will say Jenny Taft after Fox postgame
actually asked the US goalie Matt Turner about the coaching situation,
and his response was, well, First off, Clint Dempsey hated
that the question was asked because his response is, what's
the guy gonna say something negative about the coach and
now and then never plays again. But anyway, there is awful.
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The response was, I see no issue with the direction
we're heading. When you have a fight like that on
the pitch every single game we're in this tournament, it
speaks volumes to how the manager prepares us trying against
teams that are better that you don't get gold stars
for that, you don't get an extra sticker. The direction
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you're heading is not good. What planet are you on?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Wait, I'm getting some breaking news and right now, hang on, wait,
we hired Grimace. No no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
The USMNT has hired Angel Hernandez to be their new
head coach.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So there we go. We're going to say the ref
he is available any worse, Well, I know he won't pick.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Up the soccer ball on the sidelines because all he
does is keep his hands behind his back.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, so just think about those two things, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Telling the team what the score of the game, is
Oh my goodness, that's Burholter and the officials. He was
six hand. Those are the two things. The officiating in Burholter,
they go hand in hand.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Burholter not only put up his fingers up it's one
to one. He he motioned somebody to come over near
him because the guy couldn't hear him say it was
one one.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
He probably wanted to describe the goal. So here's what happened. Right,
They set up a free kick, and here's what No,
come here, can't let me tell you, to tell you
the opponent is about to take.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
A free kick and retake the lead on US guys.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It was actually him counting the two. Oh boy, oh boy,
I'm ready. I'm ready for an interview to be the
USMN take. I mean, I can tell you you guess,
so do something more.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I have more.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I don't care if he signed through twenty twenty six.
We're co hosting the world up in my country, in
my city. I don't want this team embarrassing me. US
soccer fan.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Steve Desager will pay out of his own paycheck to
get a new play because he.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Is one of those situations like in college where the boosters.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
It's so bad.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
They just raise their own money to get rid of
the coach. If we could, that's what we would do.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Hey, I need some cash on you?
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Why?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I'm sorry, but we got to get rid of this guy,
all right, So we wanted to get to that part
on Polisic and the referees, which is just insane.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Again, are we officiated like everybody else? We're not.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But coming up next you'll hear from Greg Burhalter postgame
is he the right guy to lead Team USA? And
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Speaker 1 (15:27):
Fox Sports Radio, the Jason Smith Show and Steve de
Sager in from Mike Harmon. I'll tell you, I don't
know what's a better conversation at this point, Burholter or
Kevin Ortega, the official from tonight's game. Okay, because this
story just keeps getting more bizarre as time goes on.
You thought the Kyle Philipowski stuff is bizarre over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Oh yeah no.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
So we talked a few minutes and you can hear
from Burholter coming up in the minute, I promise, But
this is just this is just so juicy. So Kevin Ortega,
who initially I think, wait, he's a guy that wrote
High School the musical and oh no, no, Kenny Ortega.
So so Kevin Ortega, thirty two year old. We talked
about him, gus his first assignment tonight doing USA.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And you're why in Kansas City today? And what did
I say?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
United States does not get officiated fairly on the international
stage and I pointed to the physical play that teams
were allowed to dictate against the United States over the
line physical play the var review tonight that.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Which is the goal on field official it's.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Different, But this goes This goes into my overarching point
that the United States doesn't get officiated fairly. That goal
should have been overall because it was offside. Doesn't happen.
After the game ends, Christian Polistic walks up to shake
the referees hands and Ortega puts his hands behind his
back rather than shake the captain of the United States hands. Right,
So again I tell you how fairly are we officiated?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now, here's what's coming out in the last few minutes
about Kevin Ortega. Okay, now, the end of last game,
when we played Panama and lost two to one, there
was a just repency over the amount of time left
extra time at the end of the game that maybe
there should have been more time left. Ortego was in
charge of the extra.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Time and we thought that at halftime tonight.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, Ortega was in charge of the of that. So okay,
that's one thing. But then I forgot about this and
actually a friend of mine texted me he's a huge
soccer fan like me.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
He was like, oh my god, dude, you.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Gotta look up the story of what happened with Boca
Juniors a couple of years ago. And I'm like, okay,
now he's refereeing Boca Juniors, which is a big powerhouse team,
and he and before the game and during the game,
he kind of awarded a soft penalty to the Boca
Juniors and they.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Were play and won the game.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And after the game, the police like it was such
a controversial officiating game by him. Police checked his locker
and found a whole bunch of Boca Juniors gear.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
In his locker.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
So you're saying, gear in his lucker.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Is this from the onion? No, that's a real thing, man,
I'm telling you it's a real thing, dude. I'm telling
you it's a real thing. They found out.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Now Boga Jue like, well, whoa wha, Well, we normally
give stuff to the off Okay, oh do you now
this is but you look at the way the game
was officiated again, there was enough.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
There was enough there.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That the police says, where in Na Kota, I mean,
you're talking about that here in the United States. The
police like going to the officials after a Chiefs game,
going hey, uh, you really helped Mahomes out there on
that roughing the passer call. And they go to his
locker and final Mahomes has autographed all a bunch stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
What if in a Scott Foster locker we actually found
a bunch of Chris Paul Jerseys.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I mean, just think about it.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And this is the guy who gets the assignment for
the United States game against Uruguay. This is the guy
who's been now on the crew twice now for United
States loss.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And by the way, the assignment coming from Common Bowl
is the name of the South American Football Federation, the
people that put on Copa America every few years. They're
set normally the South American Championship. The same people who
decided that to start tonight's telecast, having your main camera
in the top row at the top of an NFL
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stadium was a good idea, yeah, when it looked like
the All twenty twos vision. And this is also the
organization putting on this tournament that thought it was a
good idea to just a few days before you host
the game on top of NFL artificial turf, lay down
grass right before you're going to play the game. Don't
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let it grow in for a few weeks. Just go
ahead and roll it out on top, and then the
football team can be happy to have its artificial turf
back after the tournament.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yea, these are all phenomenal decisions. These are all just
four not plastic decisions. But I mean, think about that,
because again I don't like to talk about the refereeing
all the time, but there's just so much smoke and
fire here. I mean, think about not shaking Polistic's hand,
Like how do you not do that?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I mean really, and now, I mean just just think
what you open up Like I'm picturing the.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Police, like in a movie when the police come in
and they're yelling in a foreign language you can't understand,
and they open the locker and like all this gear
comes falling out, like all the ground.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't know how they got there. I don't know
what you're talking about. This guy get to do Copa
America next time.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
This guy does a US game, Polisic as the captain
before the game. Instead of exchanging those little banners, he
needs to give him a Polisic jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Here and I autographed it, and I actually get a
shake hand afterwards.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I mean real again, and you say, oh, well, maybe
Jason's right.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Maybe maybe we don't get it officiated the right way
on an international stage.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Maybe we don't.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, I'm not saying there's not smoke there, but we
both agree that the US offense, and this comes down
partly from coaching, is so horrendous. Yeah, they wouldn't have
gone anyway, but it doesn't It doesn't help that you're
not officiated fair Again, to go to quote John Oliver,
how is this okay?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I mean, how is this okay?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
That this it's like you know, you mentioned Scott Foster
when I say, and this is where I get even
bigger conspiracy theory about officiating NBA is that the NBA
they know who they're sending to games, right.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
They know.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's why Scott Foster's nickname is the Extender. They know
when a team is down to zip, he gets a
lot of works. Send this guy to a game because
they know what they like to call, and they know
the NBA knows who they're sending. Doesn't mean that every
game turns out that way, but they know that, hey boy,
if we send this official here, we're likely going to
get a win. We're talking about now a seven game
series or something. They know who they're sending. You gotta
(21:27):
think the same thing here, right, you know who you're
sending to go do this game that the United States
needs to win. And you see the way this game
was officiated tonight, and hey, okay, we don't want the
United States to win, right, We just we just have
that hate for them across the board. We don't want
their soccer program to succeed. Like it's it's a it's
a bad look the United States, who we've just been
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beating down for so long. No, there's still that hate
on the international stage. They know who they're sending to
do this game.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
The problem with the previous game, when the US loss
giving up the Lake goal to Panama on Thursday, the
problem was the referee, and that's a different guy for
that different game. The referee didn't put his foot down
early in the game. It got rough early, and he
didn't say, hey, we're not going to have this, not
only because I'm in charge, but because by the way,
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these are against the rules, the things that are happening.
So it wind up nineteen fouls to four Panama and
they escaped with a win anyway. Tonight we had that's what,
twenty three fouls total? We had twenty four fouls actually
called in this game, but they called it even at
twelve fouls apiece.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Now, again, we've been back and forth between the officiating
and the.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Burholter side of it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Both are completely responsible for contributing to the way where
United States soccer is right now. Burholter needs to go.
He needs to be replaced. But before we tell you why,
let's listen to him. He was asked after the game, Hey,
things aren't good man, the United States got knocked out
of Copa America. Are you the right man to be
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leading this United States program?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
And here's his answer, As you just said, you felt
like this team didn't perform well and could perform better.
The decisions not up to you as to whether you continue.
But do you believe that you still are the right voice,
the right person with this group to push it forward
ahead of the twenty six World Cup and into the
twenty six World Cup?
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, The question was twenty times longer than the answer.
What do you expect him to say? Nah, dude, I've
lost my touch. Man, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Here. I really don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I don't know some of the guys I was putting
in the game taken out of the game.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Maybe maybe maybe he knows that we're saying it for him.
He's gonna realize that we are not talking just about
tonight's game. We are not talking about one loss or
even one tournament. In the tune up for this tournament,
a month ago, the US played a good team, a
top twenty team in Colombia, and lost five to one.
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We were going to play either Colombia or Brazil this
weekend in a quarterfinal. If we had been able to
advance tonight, the US goal should be let's not keep
being satisfied by wow, we played a tough game against Panama,
or wow, we beat Al Salvador again, or this. You
should have bigger fish to fry for crying out loud.
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If according to the controversial FIFA rankings, you're somehow a
top twenty team like Mexico is somehow still a top
twenty team. The US men have never done what happened
to them tonight. That is, you win your opener of
group play of a tournament and still crash out of
the tournament. Without advancing out of the group. We won
the opener against Bolivia just over a week ago. Bolivia,
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a team ranked eighty fourth in the world Christian Polistic
scores in the opening minutes and we only got one
game against that woeful last place team, one goal the
rest of the game that night, barely a goal against
Panama and no goals against Uruguay, a real opponent tonight.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Now, when it comes to firing coaches, I'm not some months.
This guy stucks. He needs to go here. But this
is why the United States needs a change and needs
somebody else. Because you can argue about Burholter's strategy. Oh,
you know, should he play Balligan more at striker? Should
he play Peppy Moore? You know what's going on? Do
we need to do something at keepers? Is Matt Turner
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still is good? The strategy stuff you're going to disagree on,
and I get that, but just take a step back
for a second. Look at where the United States soccer
is right now. It's been four years with him, and
we're not any better. The players are better, and we
know this because of where they're playing across the globe
compared to where United States players were playing across the
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Globe years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, famous clubs want some of our players.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
We have more talent now than we've ever had. And
still United States Soccer is maybe we're good. We were
in the maybe we're good stage four years ago. So
we've had four years of Burholter, right we had the
flaming out in the world, We had the the the
personal situation he had with with Claudia Rena and his
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family not playing him back and forth. He had the
situation with his wife. You had a lot of controversy
involving Greg Burhalter, and you were gonna replace him, and
you still decided to bring him back. And now when
you look at the United States men's national team and
the program at best, where where we were four years ago,
and that's not good enough. You can't you can't say, well,
(26:26):
maybe we're getting it. And I know the players are
going to say good things about the coach. They don't
want to be seen as coach killers, and I understand that,
and that's what you expect them to say right now.
You're not gonna better to say, no, we need somebody
new right away. But you look at when a program
is no better off than they were four years ago, yeah,
you make a change in any sport. If an NFL team,
guys even get four years in the NFL, you know
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if you have a bad two years, no, you're done.
Because the reason the US needs a new voice is
because now you're risking apathy setting in, and you're risking
a lot of people pulling the plug on the men's
national team. Players who have supported the program for so
long are gonna pull the plug on it. You're gonna
see a sense of apathy said into the program. We're
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not gonna be any good. I'm not gonna go crazy,
And then you're gonna see a trickle down to the
players who are actually playing. Are they gonna leave their
clubs to continue to play in the men's national team?
We're not any good. You can't have apathy set in.
It's in any sport. That's when you change a head coach.
Right when Syracuse fired Dino Babers this year and they
brought in Fran Brown, who now all of a sudden,
is doing things I never thought Syracuse could do. He's
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got a top twenty five recruit. Like Syracuse is mired
in the bottom of the ACC and football, but suddenly
he's got a top twenty five recruiting class. We brought
in Kyle McCord from Ohio State. It's like, look what
he's doing. They fired Dino Babers because the ad John
Wildhack said, you know, we can't keep going and have
this malaise surrounding the program. And it's about the people
(27:54):
who are putting money in nil you have to you
risk a malaise setting in and all of a sudden
your team is not the best they can be. And
that's what it would be if if the US team
goes forward with Greg Burholter. That's what we'll set in.
The malaise will set it for the people from whether
it's it's it's US soccer that needs to be able
to find a new coach or put resources into the team,
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or the players who have to decide if they want
to play. Are they going to be motivated every game
or are they going to be players that boy, they
look really flat tonight or do they enjoy playing for
this coach. That's what you risk happening and an overall
downtick in US soccer when we should be at the
top level. That's the reason why you need a new cut.
The strategy stuff, yes, agreed, disagree. I understand that that's
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one side. That's one side of the coin, the other
side of the coin. But this is just facts you
can't ignore. Look at where the team is now compared
they were. Look at where they're headed. Do you have
any confidence that the team is head in the right direction?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
You don't. You see us, we're not.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Getting better, and it's an easier way to decide, Hey,
should we fire head coach?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Let's see, well, each year we've kind of got a
little worse. Oh that means you need somebody new.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
The standard should not be did we be eat Jamaica
and Guatemala and El Salvado or Trinidad or even Mexico. Now, yeah, Mexico's.
Mexico's in a really bad spot these days. They have
like nobody that shines on the field. We should be
passing them at this point and we both crash out
of this tournament. Let's end with this quote on Fox
postgame on FS one tonight with Clint Dempse, former star
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scorer for the US team.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Where we progressed and we have it to Lexi's point,
and that's the most frustrating part. This is our golden generation.
It looks like we're wasting it, and twenty twenty six
coming up, you're never going to get this opportunity again.
I mean ninety four we had it. We're going to
have it here. But then you don't know when that
next time is going to come. When are you gonna
have a better chance to do something special in a
(29:42):
world winbre.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You there, it is.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Nobody look as unhappy as we are. We're like the
JV compared to Lalls and Carly Lloyd.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And Clint Depsy.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
They're old so mad. But you talk about sparkling play.
Steve has that right now. To tell you all about
Jad Martinez and what he did for the Mets tonight
in their wins over the Nationals.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
We might actually get to some good news for some people,
but for most Americans, well, I mean in a backwards way,
this was kind of a good night potentially for some Americans.
Because you mentioned it last week, some US soccer fans
will be hate watching this copa America game from Kansas
City tonight. If it's as bad as we thought it
was going to be, maybe they'll finally get rid of
(30:27):
coach Greg Berhalter standing by because it was bad The
US got shut out, won nothing Erguay the final. The
US is eliminated in Copa America. Despite the fact that
we won our first of the three games, the US
only had three total goals in the three games. The
record for the US men since October it's a losing
(30:48):
record five six and one. Brazil's group finale is tomorrow
night on FS one at the Euros in the round
of sixteen. France and Portugal with wins today's winners will
now play against each other in a fright quarterfinal. That's
right after the Friday Spain at Germany match. By the way,
three MLB games tonight, Colorado took the late game in
ten innings, eight seven over Milwaukee, the Rockies injured with
(31:12):
a record of twenty eight and fifty five. The Mets
record is up to forty one and forty one. How
is this happening? A ten inning win at Washington tonight
nine to seven.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
JD.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Martinez with a three run homer in a six run
top of the tenth, and then they held on the
loss to Nationals reliever Hunter Harvey. This guy was a
great setup man for most of the season this year,
and now in his last three and a third innings.
He's allowed eight earned runs. His era before this was
two point six eight. It has gone to say the
(31:44):
least south. The Mets started to.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Waitit wait, wait, wait Hunter, Henry pitch tonight.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
No, that's amazing, Harvey. Sorry, he didn't have any receptions
all right. Drvin Peterson three and zero was the Mets starter.
No decision for his six and a third innings. Houston
won today three to one at two Torodo. Vladimirga Road
junior of the Blue Jays did not play sore hand
after being hit by a pitch yesterday. The Celtics agreed
to a five year extension with Jason Tatum worth over
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three hundred million dollars including the player option. Derek White
got a four year extension from Boston worth more than
one hundred and twenty five million dollars including a player option.
Celtics ownership plans to put the team up for sale.
Philadelphia gave Tyrese Maxie a five year deal with over
two hundred mil, and the seventy six ers will find
signed Paul George to a four year Max contract for
(32:33):
over two hundred and ten mil. They already have similar
money invested in joelmb Tobias Harris agreed to a two
year contract with Detroit worth over fifty million dollars. Dallas
acquired Klay Thompson from Golden State in a sign and trade,
and there were two WNBA games tonight, Connecticut now fifteen
and four after winning at Phoenix eighty three to seventy two,
(32:53):
Seattle at home RiPP Dallas ninety five seventy one, Dallas
record now four and fifteen. Cocoa goff with a first
round treat. Wimbledon back to you.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Thanks a bunch of stevelle. So we'll have more on
the USMNT coming up in a few minutes, and who
knows what officiating stuff we might find out, But straight ahead,
it is very rare that an NBA team makes the
right decision in letting a star player leave, and that
another team makes the right decision by signing that player.
(33:22):
But that happened today. That's next right here, Jason Smith,
see Di Desager and for Mike Harmon this as Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
United States.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Lost to your Why we are out of the code
uh Mets beat the Nationals, and extra inings. Those are
the big scores of the night and night Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
By the way, way, I did see video of right
after the US lost in Kansas City tonight. The team
captain Christian Polisic is on the field motioning to the
refs standing on the side, Hey, come over to this side.
You should be celebrating with Maybe that's what through them
and why he wouldn't shake.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
His hand No, or was that after the handshake thing.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
No, before he actually physically motioned them over and then
pointed to.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
They hold them up Kevin ortagas they take him off
on his shoulders like.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Maybe Jersey two of the controversial plays. By the way,
and and the Fox Soccer twitter feed did give a
compilation of the moments from the FS one telecast. You
remember when there was an actual seemingly stoppage of the
game because the referee called a yellow card on the
US actually took it out of his pocket, had it
(34:49):
in his hand and the yellow cards starting to be
raised in the air, and instead quickly restarted, put the
soccer ball on the turf and restarted the play and
almost scored while the ref was giving and let it go.
Was giving a yellow card astounding And another time.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm going to keep the United States' attention on my
yellow card.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
School look at the verdi Oh gotcha?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Another time is remember defensively, the US was trying to
kick the ball away out of its own goal bocks
and it hit a hand of an Uruguay player. Could
have been a handball, but the ball deflected off the
hand straight to the US and they started the attack
up to midfield, and then play was stopped by the referee.
Like what now that's not advantage at all, that's quite
(35:34):
the opposite. Now you're going to call the handball and
the team with the ball has to stop playing and
come all the way back and start from in their
own goal box.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Again, what have I said all night tonight? Do we
really get officiated on the same level as all the
other teams internationally?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
So maybe we understand why the team captain was motioning
the referees to the winning side of the field.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
So we'll have more on this story coming up in
a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
But look, big of days an NBA free agency and
clearly one of the big stories today. Klay Thompson has
a new home, goes to Dallas Mavericks three years and
fifty million dollars. Wait, I thought Lebron talked to him.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
He did.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
He said, Hey, come here and we'll give you money. Well,
are you going to take less money?
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well that's well, how much do you need? I'll call
you back less than fifty Is that what you've mean?
So Lebron apparently still not a great GM because Klay
Thompson goes to the Mavericks. Yeah, and three years and
fifty million.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Emphasis on the word still in that sentence, by the way.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
And hey, Dallas, we could have given you d lo
if you want, and we gotta come on mail.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You had that.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So this is one of those rare moves that the
Warriors letting him go was the right move, and the
Mavericks signing him was the right move. The Warriors need
to start over, right. I've said this for a while.
I don't know if the next invention of the Warriors
is going to win, but I know this invention is not.
Clay is not the player he was. Draymond is not
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the player he was. Steph is the closest he was.
He's still in All NBA First second Team talent guy. Yes,
so let's try to figure things out around him. I
don't know if that'll work, but I know what we've
just been seeing isn't working because those players aren't the same.
So you need to move on. It was a tough decision,
you know, Clay is bitter. Uh picked his team in
the Western Conference very quickly. The No's can win. I
(37:17):
gotta win this war I gotta win the breakup with
the Warriors. So yes, I get why the Warriors let
him go. They had to because he wasn't the same guy.
But Dallas getting him he's what they need. You look
back at the finals and the Celtics won. One of
the main reasons everybody on the Celtics can hit threes.
They all hit their threes.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
They were the.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Number one team three point shooting wise during the season,
and they came out and they came through. In the
NBA Finals, Dallas was number three. D Dallas is a
terrible three point shooting team. They were number three, but
in the finals they were all like. They were twenty
six for eighty seven from three point range in the
in the NBA Finals is awful.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
That's only two games worth a threes for the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So if you get Klay Thompson, who will be able
to hit threes, not have to be the second best
player on the team, and he's okay with coming off
the bench, a lesser role, whatever it's going to be,
because hey, let's face it, you already have two guys
starting a guard that are going to see a lot
of minutes. That's a great move. You have the leadership
that he brought in, the guy that's one championships, He's
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hit big shots in big moments. He's another option at
the end of games, not just well, here's Luca's going
to try to do it himsell for Kyrie. This was
a great signing by the Dallas Mavericks. Shows they really
want to continue to go for it, and he will
fit into that team exactly how they expect him to.
Luca and Kyrie will have the Lion's share of the minutes,
the Lions share of the responsibility, but Clay's going to
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have his spots, whether it's with the second unit some
other way, and he's going to be our next big score.
That's exactly what they need. The Warriors had to get
rid of him, and the Mavericks need him it worked
for both teams.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
And technically a sign in trade. I'd read a couple
of second rounders through to Golden State. But Klay Thompson
you mentioned off the bench played about fifteen games off
the time bench last year, his most appearances off the
bench since he was a rookie, so over a decade ago.
This guy's been in the league a while.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Now.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Let's not forget he's twenty points a game for his
career and was still eighteen points a game for the
Warriors last year, and in fact played more games last
year than he had in five years. So his career
is not over just because he's lesser in the shooting percentage.
This is a pickup. This is a nice pickup.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah. No, Again, it sounds weird to say, well, it
was right to let him go.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Usually it's hey, a team needed to let him go, Well,
good luck with somebody else who signed him, or boy,
you made a mistake letting him go. The other team
really did well getting him. No, I see it both
here because Clay and Draymond too, they have value, but
they have more value with other teams where they can
have different roles than they do with the Golden State.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Warriors.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Because as much as you want to say, hey, it
can still work in Golden State, are you really gonna
get Draymond and clay to both come off the bench
play less minutes, less responsibility. No, they've been those guys
there for a long time. They're not suddenly going to say, hey,
I'm okay being the fourth best guy the team doesn't
work that.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
It also would have been potentially very expensive for Golden
State to keep him around. They're probably wiping their brow
secretly a few weeks ago and say, oh, wasn't it
so good that Clayton say yes to that money that
was on the table.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
He could have had good move by tight doesn't happen
that often, but it did. Coming up next Jason Smith
Steve de Sager, we get back into the biggest topic
of the night Keeper right here.
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