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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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should be. Now, Steve, before we start with a big,
big NBA story today, Lebron James staying with the Lakers.
How are you keeping up with the late after hours
negotiation to get Joey Chestnut into the hot dog eating
contest in about fifteen hours?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, say, somebody's the odds on favor that we haven't
heard of. That's all you need to know about this contest.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Like and like, shouldn't we be talking about Like, hey,
it's coming down to it. This is an eleventh hour
agreement that's going to allow Joey Chestnut to compete in
the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest? Like should we have
something like that? He wrote, We're hours away from it.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That's right. It's July fourth, is tomorrow. They're still gonna
have the hot dog eating contest with Nathan's. But he
signed with what a rival company? Right, and so he's
taking that sponsor money and not allowed in this contest.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, it's not just that he's taking sponsor money, is
that he's he's promoting. He's taking money from Impossible, which
is an alternative to meat, which kind of is the
entire thing behind hot dogs that it's meat. So like,
he just didn't go to a competitor. He just said,
I'm I'm just going completely one hundred and eighty degrees.
I'm not even going to somebody else that makes meat.
I'm going to somebody that makes meat from plants. That's
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where I'm going.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You just called hot dogs meat. I'm not sure that's
been securely confirmed. Nathan's quite tasty.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I will say, sure, oh sure, sure, Look, I mean
it's it's really weird because I wonder what kind of
impact the hot dog eating contest is gonna have tomorrow,
because usually, you know, with Joey chestnutt look, there's some
kind of buzz, there's some kind of looking for what's
he gonna do? We love seeing the one guy who's
the carnival barker who says all the accomplishments. Yeah, I
(02:27):
mean he's awesome. He just makes up stuff like every
every year. That's just just fantastic.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I'm just waiting to hear from him as he introduces
somebody from parts unknown.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, height unknown, weight unknown, from parts unknown. But usually
there's some that, you know, there's some Oh we gotta
watch Joey Chestnut. How many is he gonna eat? Can
somebody get close to him? Are we going to see
a reversal? And I feel like tonight it's like wow,
like yeah, the hot dog getting contest tomorrow, And I
really wonder what the overall interest in it is going
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to be. Is someone gonna win by eating like thirty
five hot dogs? Like you know, Joey chest that's downing
like seventy five is someone gonna win and the average
person watching is gonna go I could make a run
at that, I think if I I think I could
make a run at that. If I if I didn't
eat for like a day, I think I could make
a run at those. I'd get sick after, but I
can make a run at thirty five.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
By the way, it's major league eating that banned him.
Can we just say that out loud? There is such
a thing as major league eating. I know, like our
coworker Ben Mallor is a huge fan of all of this,
but only in America. I'm tending to say, could there
be an actual organization not just Major League Baseball, Major
League soccer, major league eating?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Wait? Did I hear you correctly, Jason? What's that?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Did you say not eating for a day?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah? Like, if I don't eat for a day, could
I eat thirty five hot dogs? And I don't know, No,
That's what I mean. Like I'd either be just I'd
be like without dude, I'd be like one of those
one of those horses getting ready for the derby in
the stall, waiting for the stall to open and the
bell to go off, Like, come on, man, I'm ready.
I'm ready to run. I gotta eat. Let's go, Let's go.
(04:02):
I mean, that's what I have to do.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Apparently for a long time, it's been a requirement that
the eaters in this contest not endorse a rival brand.
So even though he says I found out with about
it along with the rest of you, I can assume
that he knew what direction he was going in. Yeah,
and the consequences that were coming.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
This is yeah, this is not just a rival. This
is like I'm going. This is not like I'm going
from Nathan's to cons or Oscar Meyer. You know. No, no,
I'm going. I'm going outside of meat entirely.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's impossible.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh, you know, it's funny. I just thought about this
because I've got in the back of my head, when's
the last time I wanted to I went a day
without eating for Mikel and Oscarby last year.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And okay, a little much information.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But well, because you have to supposed to eat four hours.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
The camera's got to see what it's got to see.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know. And they complimented me for Hey,
they said, hey, nice job. I said, thank you very much.
And I'm going to have a sandwich. It wasn't as
bad as I thought it was going to be, but
right right when it was done, all of a sudden,
it was like, okay, like I'm in the desert and
I need water. Like leading up to it, I'm like, okay,
it's fine, it's okay. It's not my favorite and I
got things that take my mind off, and all right,
(05:11):
I can still drink water all this. But then like
right after, it's always okay, let's go. It's done, it's over,
let's go. We gotta eat.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You had an overload, did you?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
No, no no, But I had a big ass sandwich
right after It's all right, this is this is great.
This is the best thing ever. And they were asking me,
like when I when, because I'm out of it, when
they give you the sedative that just kind of to
to put you to sleep enough, And they were all
left because apparently I was saying really funny stuff like
when because I want to use I went to UCLA
(05:39):
to do it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So wait a minute, you're saying, when you're about to
be put under, you're at your funniest.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh well, apparently apparently I was. Well what they told
me I did was this was the nurse came in
right before to have me sign. Hey, sign this waiver
right here. You gotta sign before they're take an operator room. Like, oh,
so you give me the sedative, so yeah, and now
you want me to sign a waiver in case something
I'm gonna side. Okay, fine, So she goes, I said
what she was, you do it on your phone and
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and and I'm right outside the operating the operating room,
like the doctor's in there, the nurses are in there,
all in there, and she says, and what you do
is you you you get in here. Here's your in
and your path and the password to to uh to
get in is u c l A, like she's saying
to me very specifically. She goes, it's u c l I.
And I said, blank s C and like the entire
(06:27):
the all the doctors like before I got I got
the I think I got the best colon Oskapie ever
like all right, get this guy in here, all right, yeah,
he said, blank gets the I'm like, oh wow, yeah,
I did say.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
That if you are actually at your funniest right before
you go under. Perhaps that's an idea for a future show.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Further the the anesthesiologist like, like, gave me something real,
I said, I said, look, I don't need a lot.
I'm kind of like, are you yeah, well they have
to when when you yeah, no, no, no, they kind
of do. They kind of do they need you relaxed
when when something like that happens. And and the uh,
the anethesiologists said, we were all pointing at each other
(07:11):
all during during your procedure. And I said why and
she said, because right before you went, you were talking.
We were asking where you're gonna go eat after you
were telling us you were you were going to go
to Bay Cities, which is a great deli here in
l A. You're gonna get it sandwich on like yahya.
And then you realize that you were just about to
go out, and you pointed to me and you said,
you just gave me something and it's really strong. I'm like, okay,
(07:35):
all right. Then it was no, no, no, it was
it was whatever the a sedative they gave me to
for the No no, no, no, come on, come on man,
this is this is this is legitimate. This is this
is not some JJ reddick. You know we're gonna advance
the players holistically. No, this is like you know, U
c l A is legitimate hospitel, legitimate surgeons. They actually
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did the operation and JJ Reddick stood behind and said, yeah,
I'm in charge of everything. I'm just not doing anything.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It's not an operation, it's just a procedure and an outpatient.
Everybody we need to say, everybody, especially guys age forty five,
this is what you should do. I had one. It
was no problem, and I went to a game that night.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I had one, and they they said I should take
the night off from work. And I'm like, okay, So
I took the night off and I'm like I really
could work, like I really, Like once I got to
like three o'clock. Once I had a sandwich and I
was like, okay, yeah, like I really could work tonight,
like I really. But they just said, just in case
you're at you know, coming anytime you have to be
put under and you have to wake up, no one.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Knows how you home.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And yeah, because they said, because you operating machinery like
a tractor, well that's the thing. They said, what do
you do and I said, I said, well, I'm I'm
I'm a media personality. I have a radio show at night.
And they said, oh oo, do you often go on
the air Groggy? And I said why you think that'd
be an improvement and and they said no, just you know,
maybe you want to take when's your show? And I
said seven o'clock and they said, well, you put my
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procedures like at one o'clock. And they said, you know,
you're probably better off getting the day off. I'm like, okay,
that's fine, just in case it was. It was tough
for me getting out and I was talking like you
know what, no one knew what the hell was going on.
So I took but by the time it was like
three four o'clock, I'm like, you know, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I could have worked tonight, so you could have.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, no, I could have. I could have. I was
glad to have the night. Don't get me wrong, I
was glad to have the night off. But it was
I've held that.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I went to Dodger Stadium. I'm not kidding. It was
a normal night.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Wow. Wow did you get there?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I drove what yes, morning procedure evening ball game.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Wow, that's a mantra right there. I put that on
a T shirt. Morning Procedure with the picture of a
guy with his with his hand in a rubber glove
and then Chavez Ravine on the back. That'll work.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I don't think that's gonna be given away at this stadium.
Don't take the bobbleheads instead.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
The Jason Smith Joe with Vike Carbagete de Seger in
for Harmon tonight and look a big story today, not
that it wasn't unexpected. After Bronnie James gets it. What
was it, Steve, Ronnie James got four years and seventy
five million, has a second round.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
This year for like Actually it's three years plus a
team option for at the most less than eight million dollar.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yes, I think there's guys in the lottery that didn't
get that contract, but Bronny.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Gets hold on.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
He won the lottery. I think we've grown over this.
Uh Ron given this. Let's go ahead and use the word.
I know we talked about this last He was given
this position. This was not an accomplishment.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
He earned it. JJ Reddick, who was given the head
coaching job, said lebron said, said Bronni earned it once again.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He was given that head coaching Jeff. Now he's been
given to assistance.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So Bronni's in the fold and now Lebron comes in
staying with the Lakers on a two year, one hundred
and four million dollar contract. Now, the big particular here
is it's a player option for next year and a
no trade clause. Just three players in the NBA have
a no trade clause, not players you would expect. It's
like Lebron, James Bradley Beal and I think Isaia Hartenstein.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Contract is getting worse. I find out about it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But it's a it's a two year deal. Lebron can
opt out, can retire after this year. He's going a
year at a time. Obviously, you know, being thirty nine
to forty years old. I completely get that way, Yes,
I completely get this. But the first thing I want
to say, is this so much for Hey, I'll take
less money if we can, if it means we can
(11:26):
go get a player. Because we talked about this the
other night. We saw this coming a mile away. Once
the Lakers weren't getting anybody. Was Lebron really gonna take
less money? Hey, I'll still take less so we can
go out and get somebody. No, all the players that
he would have wanted, Klay Thompson, they're all gone. And
we heard from Mark Medina last night said, look, this
is this is the roster the Lakers are likely going
(11:47):
to training camp with, so there's not gonna be and
that they can try and make some trades everything else,
but they're not bringing in anybody else. So here's Lebron. Okay,
but you're still giving me the maximum. There's no I'll
take less, there's no make it easier for you to
get a free agent. In fact, here's how crazy it
is for Lebron. Rich Paul, his agent, Clutch Sports, is
(12:08):
going to have a conversation with the Lakers about Lebron
taking one million dollars less for a million dollars less.
It helps them with the second apron of the salary cap,
and it can help them get other players to bring
it by taking a million dollars. It's a conversation. It's
(12:28):
not Oh, of course, you're so good to me. You
drafted my kid, you gave him a one way deal.
He's gonna be on the Lakers. You gave him three
years guaranteed money. He doesn't have to worry about anything.
Oh no, no, I'm taking every dollar come in my way.
When it's in the fifty millions of dollars and if
you need a million, well, we'll have a conversation with
my agency.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Seriously, got his coach, Seriously, he got his son on
the team, not as a non roster draftee signee, but
as a drafted player, which means contract negotiations, and got
a mc gary spot on the roster and resigns and
gets a no trade clause and might talk about instead
(13:08):
of making fifty two million, making fifty one million to
you know, kind of help you out.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I mean, come on, man, I mean what you know.
There's lots of things about Lebron that come out in
the media that get misconstrued. There's some things that he
gets a bad rap for that's really not on him.
There's certain things that he gets put under the microscope
for when we don't know all of the story. Look,
I firmly believe that because it's not always as simple
(13:34):
as that. But this is one of those stories where
it's really there's a conversation about taking a million dollars less.
Really is that it's not, Hey, here's two years and
a million dollars less than the max. It would help
the team entirely, and it's not a difference from he's
making two million to one million, it's fifty two million
to fifty one million, and there's gonna be a conversation
like Rich Paul is gonna say, Okay, we'll do it,
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but you owe us, like what you wonder why the
Lakers don't win? Because this is how the organization is
being run and Lebron is allowed to run roughshot over
the entire thing, like it is just insane when I
read that. Today, we'll have a conversation like, oh, we
didn't scratch your back enough by drafting Lebron's kid and
giving them that and give them the contract you want.
We didn't do enough. And now it's we're gonna have
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a conversation about a million dollars? Are you kidding me?
This is really this is and this is just to
make the team better. This is this is not just hey,
we want a million dollars back because you know, Rob
Polinka needs a salary. This is this million dollars will
help us salary cap wise and will help us give
us some flexibility to bring players in. And there's gotta
be a conversation about it, like, wow, are you you
(14:38):
wonder why the Lakers don't win? There's your example right there. Hey,
that's Lebron. That's Lebron at work. The Jason Smith Show
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story throughout the night. Lots of angles to Lebron staying
with the Lakers one hundred and four million dollar contract.
But coming up next, Boy, there is no such thing
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Steve to Sager and for Mike Harmon. You know, really,
the more I think about it, Steve, I just can't
believe that everything the Lakers have done bent over backwards
for Lebron, drafting bronni giving him the contract, nor the
second rounders get giving Lebron all the money he wants,
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not saying, hey, mt you take a little bit let No, no, no,
We're gonna give you all money you want. And it's
not an of course, Oh of course I'll take a
million dollars less so you can avoid the second tax
Apron and also have pretty good roster flexibility to bring
in players to make the team better. That's gotta be
a conversation. It's not just automatical, of course, we'll do that. Like,
come on, man, like you do you really care about winning?
(16:35):
Do you really care about doing the right thing? They
did so so much for you, and it's yeah, they
still got to do you another favor. Man, You know.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Do you notice how it was just a few days
ago when it got leak like Lebron's willing to take
less and some hosts went off like, yeah, Lebron's been
such a team player in the past. Remember that Miami
title he had, on and on and on. Okay, yeah,
now we have the truth out, he's got a chance
to do something because we know how restrictive the cap
rules are now and the aprons the Lakers are going
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to they're pretty limited in how they can add and
how different the roster can be. The answer is, at
the moment, not that different.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
No. I mean, look, it's I always go back to this.
I just keep thinking about where the Lakers are and
the deeper they get in with Lebron, it doesn't get
any better, like you would think. Okay, being in the
Lebron business is really where you want to be. But
I look at the Lakers and I go, they're not
going to be back to being the Lakers until he's done,
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until he retired. They've decided we're gonna capitulate because we
need a superstar. Right. We don't know that we can
build a team without a superstar. We've always had a superstar.
We went from Kareem and Magic to Shaq and Kobe
and Kobe to Lebron. We've never not had a star
and we've really got out like a d is not enough.
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Like Ad is a good play, he's a top ten
player of the league, but we really need that star
and we are bending over backwards for him because we
don't We don't know what the reality is going to
be if we don't get him. When the reality is, hey,
maybe players are gonna want to come play for the Lakers.
I don't know, but the Lakers were a destination for
a really long time and Lebron being there is not helping.
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How many people come play with Lebron? Nobody You had
to make the trade. Ad wanted to be there. And
I give Rob Polinka all the credit in the world
from making a trade. When when when the Pelicans just
had him over a barrel? Oh you want to we
want everybody you have. Okay, they still made the deal,
they still won the title. Okay, but nobody else is coming,
Like nobody else is come. Lebron hasn't brought anybody else,
and Lebron Brodny Bell say hey, I want to come
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win a champions.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Hold time they just drafted a second rounder that he knows.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
What are you saying, you know, I just I just
go what are the Lakers really? What are they getting
out of it? Like we talked about the Clippers last
night and how I can't take the Clippers seriously because
the Clippers aren't about winning. They're just about relevance. They
want to be relevant. They want to be part of
the conversation, and that's their goal. That's why they keep
giving Kawhi money. That's why they gave James Harden a
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ridiculous amount of money for the next two years. They
just want to be part of the conversation. We want
to be a fifty win team. It's nice we're not
one of the laughing stocks of the NBA. But I
can't take the Clippers seriously because that's what they've built
for the last five years. The Lakers are the same.
Are the Lakers really trying to win or the Lakers
are saying we just want to be the Lakers And
Lebron on the Lakers is great for us because even
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if we lose, we're still Lebron and the Lakers like that.
That's more. Forget about chasing a title and making the
team better. That's how I look at the Lakers. The
Lakers and the Clippers are the same. Hey, this is
an NBA now where the powers have flexed out right.
It's not not in La, it's not with us anymore.
It's in different parts of the country. We just watched
the Golden State Warriors dynasty from about one thousand miles
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north a little bit less, maybe seven or fifty miles
forwarth We just watch that. We want to stay relevant
and having Lebron keeps us thing whether we win or not. Hey,
winning is great, right, but winning is not our ultimate goal.
Being the Lakers and being the status of Hey, we
are the Lakers is what we want. And that's what
this is. Keeping Lebron and giving him this money and
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capitulating anything he wants. This is the trade off. This
is what the Lakers really want, because if they really
were trying to going crazy to try to win, they
wouldn't be this hamstrung every year with money and players
and players not coming. And you would understand that, Okay,
this is the right way to build a championship team.
But instead to get Rob Polinka, who was Kobe's agent,
and now you have JJ Reddick, and I thought he
(20:35):
was a great coach, but now, no, no, we got
to bring in better coaches who are head coaches before
to come in on his death. I thought he had
the answers. No, apparently these guys do. And you know,
I go from Hey, I gotta say the same thing
about the Lakers. I can't take the Clippers seriously as contenders.
I can't take the Lakers seriously as contenders.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
You talked about the Clippers being content to be a
fifty win team, which made me laugh because the Lakers
haven't been a fifty win team in four years since
they won that title. The six years Lebron has been
in Los Angeles, and he chose this franchise as much
as well because of the city as much as the team.
Let's be honest, they had that very good year twenty twenty,
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which was interrupted by the time they continued the playoffs.
The Lakers, who had easily a fifty win season that year,
went on to make the run to the title, but
the couple years before that they didn't even finish five
hundred and they've also been out in the first round,
including this year in the playoffs. Even when they made
that run, to the West Finals and got swept by Denver.
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A year ago, the Lakers were about a five hundred
team in the regular season, so Lebron hasn't been much
of a GM. They are completely beholden to him even
up to the literal present day. And in Los Angeles,
when you consider the Lakers and Dodgers are by far
the two most popular things in sports, and this is
a town that's had USC football for decades. Lakers and Dodgers,
(21:59):
in whatever order, are one and two, and for the
past forty years, you could make a really good case
that for the Dodger organization, the Dodgers have been the
star collectively and the team and the brand. For the Lakers,
the star players at the time are the star and
they kind of need for like they needed at the
end of Kobe's career, a star still to sell and
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make the Laker tickets, especially the first row tickets, something
to be envious of. And if you don't have Lebron
on the roster, that really takes a hit in that department,
and that's been their concern, not just the on the court.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Again, we'll have more on this story as it moves
on throughout the night. Really I can't take the Lakers seriously,
mainly because it's gonna be the same. If it's the
same team coming back as last year, and that was
a team that barely got into the playoffs and lost
in the first round, certainly they're gonna win champions. I mean,
come on, it's not gonna happen. I can't. I really,
the Lakers and the Clippers are the same. I can't
take them seriously.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
We have an update from Dodger Stadium. By the way,
Freddie Freeman a first inning homer. It's three to one
LA over Arizona. I don't know how the Mets did today,
but there's your update on.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
How they canceled. They canceled the Mets game. Oh really, yeah,
play the Mets games are when the Mets have to
go to the bullpen before the sixth inning. They canceled
the game.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Okay, so the Met's bullpen is the one that didn't
actually play.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah no, no, they did not play at all. No,
it was it was. It was awful tonight. I just
want to say this really quick, just because I need
to say this. Hey, David Stearns, don't wait until the
thirtieth to fix the bleeping bullpen. Okay, okay, let's do
something faster than that, faster than the thirtieth. That's all.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Once again, you're making a Mets reference. This is not
somehow thinking that David stern is in charge of something.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Hey listen, hey, I have a John Paul Morosi text
with Sternsy all the time. He calls him. There were
roommates in college. He has said to me in the past, Hey, Jason,
when you have something, I sent a message. I'll send
a message to Sternsy for you, like he sends a
message to U. Who he said to Aj Hinch, I
think from his dad, Like, because John Paul Morosi's dad
is a huge Tigers fan. Once in a while, he'll send,
(23:59):
you know, Hinch a message from from his daddy's I'll
send you out. I'll send messages to Sternsy from you.
I'm like, okay, great, IM like I'm This is why
I say, if Gottlee makes the tournament and the Lakers
get top six seed, I could manage the Mets in
two years. I mean that could be me.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
You are referring to the Met's general manager, of course,
who I like a lot of the new gms is
younger than we are. Yeah, buddy's got money bags for
an owner, so this can be fixed.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, no, listen, it's fine. Just don't wait until the
thirtieth to fix the bull. And that's just just a
little bit soon, just a little bit sooner, not that. Meanwhile,
you know, it's almost as if the Dallas Cowboys have said, boy,
the Lakers are getting all these crazy controversial headlines. We
got to step in with some. This week in Dallas
has been insane. First, we started off with the reports
(24:46):
that Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy don't quite see eye
to eye, and the coaches and the teams feel like
they get conflicting directives from each of them, Like Mike
McCarthy wants to do one thing coaching and Jerry Jones
comes in and says, no, we're gonna do it this way.
So that was a thing. And now you have Hendon
Hooker who goes on his podcast and blast Micah Parsons
(25:08):
for caring more about his pot. Now he goes on
a podcast to say, Michah Parsons cares more about his
podcast than he does about making sure the team is
ready to go and and and be a better teammate
and and and try to get things to the point
where hey, the Cowboys or we can succeed in this season. Right, this,
this is this is this is great. So this is
(25:29):
what's said on a podcast about Michaeh Parkson's having too
much to say in a podcast about the Cowboys. Parsons
jumped back and said, dude, I wish you had said
this to my face. I don't know why you said
it on a podcast. I mean me, Look, athletes and podcasts, man,
they just want to have them.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
That is so honored athlete. Absolutely, and in context Micah
Parsons entering his fourth year in the league and awaiting
a contract extension.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, and and this is you know, this is so guy.
Do you watch the Bear by any chance? You watch
the Okay?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Well one a lot of he's one year ago, is
that is correct? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, and now the third season has just come out
a couple of days ago. And you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
This whole season at the same time, right.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, yes, So I haven't watched it yet because I'm
a little nervous when whenever they drop a whole season
at once, I feel like, ooh, how good can it
really be? If you're dropping the whole season.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Do you think that's like a towel.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, I think it might. I think now it's a tell. Oh,
we're dropping dropping hole season ones. Really, we're dropping all
these it ones. There's a scene in the pilot episode
where it's a movie about it's a TV show about
a guy who comes back to run the family restaurant
after his brother kills himself and while he's been awake,
he says he's this big famous chef. While he's been away,
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his cousin's been running the restaurant. So they come back.
In the entire first episode, they argue about putting spaghetti
on the menu, and and then the new chef who
takes over is like, we're not gonna serve spaghetti. It's
not a money mate, it's not this. We're not gonna
serve spaghetti. We're not doing it. And everybody in the
kitchen's like, okay, no spaghetti. And then Richie, the cousin
comes in and says, cousin may to spaghetti, go back,
(27:01):
we need the spaghetti. Spaghetti sells. And then so now
in the kitchen they're like, I guess we're making spaghetti.
And that's the entire episode. In the pilot is you
have a person running the show saying we're not making spaghetti,
and then Richie comes in, Hey, come on, make spake cousin,
go make the blanket spaghetti. We gotta make spaghetti. Had
the spaghetti. And that's what I feel like what the
cowboys are like. They get want you know, you know,
(27:21):
Jerry Jones comes in and says, no spaghetti, and then
Mike mccris says, oh, come on, we gotta make this spaghetti.
We need spaghetti. I said, no spaghetti. Like this is
the cowboys. This is the cowboys. Every single day they
can't It's not that it's not that they can't avoid controversy.
Like if controversy was a pool of water, and all
the cowboys had to do was walk around the pool
(27:42):
of water to not be in the controversy, there could
be all kinds of surefooting on other side, not like
saying it's quicksand or anything. You've got a pool of
water that's controversy. All you gotta do is walk around
at the other side and keep going right. All you
gotta do. And there's stones to walk on, there's railings
to grab onto, you can take a rope and fasten
it to the railing so you don't fall off and
(28:04):
move it. But it's so and you have all kinds,
you have miles and miles of room to walk oh
into that. The Cowboys just say nope, and they just
take two steps and jump right in the middle of
that water. Mike, Gods the Cowboys do.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
If I were a Cowboys fan, is that people, including
coach Mike McCarthy, think that they've actually accomplished something with
these twelve and five records the last three years, or
winning a couple of division titles with him. Because you
got blasted at home in the playoffs last year. I
mean it was about fifty points, a near fifty burger,
as people say, for green Bay coming in as the visitor,
(28:36):
the team that barely made the playoffs just rolled you.
And the two years before that you lost back to
back years close games to the forty nine ers and
couldn't advance over them in the NFC. You are the Cowboys.
I thought that was the standard, But since the mid nineties,
I have no idea what the standard is now in
Dallas because it seems like the priority is I'm running
(28:59):
thing or my opinion is bigger instead of let's look
back at what made us great, and they were great
for decades plus and ever since, they're kind of a
they're kind of a punchline. Ever since the mid nineties.
It's like, yeah, you know, who hasn't made the conference
title games? You know, they're they're an answer to the
trivia question, and they're not doing anything to escape that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You know, and I get the fact that, you know,
here's Malie Hooker who is trying to trying to try
and let's stend the tidy here. Because Michaeh Parsons making
all kinds of noise with his podcast. He can tell that, hey,
you know what, if things don't go our way, guess
guess where the first thing we're gonna find out is
gonna go bad. We're gonna find out on his podcast
(29:43):
Michaeh Parsons is gonna look one of the best defensive
players in the league. But he likes to say whatever
he wants to and and you know the worry I
believe Trumale Cooker what he's trying to was trying to
do was say, hey, listen, let's just not go on
here and air our dirty laundry or get to the
point where too loose lipped, and we wind up having
to defend ourselves against things like let's watch. And I
(30:05):
kind of get that because, look, Moly Cooker has been
in the league for why's twenty eight, you know, and
you know he's a starter at safety, So I get it.
One of the older guys on the team. So I
understand that he had to kind of walk it back
a little bit today because it become a controversy. I
think he was like, Okay, this maybe blew up a
little bit more on me, but this is just who
the Cowboys are. They can't get past us and what
they also can't get past. This is a really big
(30:25):
thing that nobody else understands. But we've talked about this
from the beginning. This is not a season where, hey,
if the Cowboys don't do well, they'll spend money next year.
This is a season where if the Cowboys don't play well,
and they won't Jerry Jones has told us big changes
are comings. It's gonna it's gonna be a new head coach,
(30:46):
it's gonna be a new quarterback. Ceedee Lamb is not
gonna get paid. Maybe Micah Parsons gets paid. He is.
He has said Hey, twenty twenty four is a big
That's why he's all in because if this season doesn't
go well, and why should it, because they didn't get
better in the offseason. If this season doesn't go well,
there's gonna be all kinds of changes. And I don't
(31:07):
think that people grasp that that this is what Jerry
Jones's meaning is. Hey, you're gonna see an entirely new
Dallas Cowboys. He even said a couple of months ago. Look,
I just turned eighty older. I'm gonna be around a
long time, so i can oversee a lot of this.
We're gonna try to it. I'm gonna oversee it. So
he's not looking for a quick fix bringing guys in.
He is looking for after this year, I am gonna
(31:28):
rip things down to the studs and build it back
up again. And that's the big message that people aren't
getting about the Cowboys exit out about a Fresco. The
Jason Smith Show is Steve de Sager in for Mike
harmon By. I'll tell you the Cowbohich is just two
two steps jump right into that big controversial water pilot now,
not going around it, Gonna jump right to do it
right now. We're jumping into what's trending with Steve de Sager,
(31:49):
who's got everything, including the Mets game tonight, which got
canceled after they were leading five to nothing in the
fifth inning.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Okay, I'll just get it over with seven five. Washington
is the final and they have a great close this year.
Kyle Finnegan with his twenty third save ERA one point
nine eights. I assume I will see him in the
All Star Game. The Midsummer Classic only a couple weeks away.
It's going to be at the Texas Rangers, part Globe
Life Field. The news from tonight the starting lineups were
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not the batting order, but the starting lineups for each
league were revealed. The fan vote ended today. Bryce Harper
top vote getter in the National League, Aaron Judge, of
course of the Yankees, top vote getter in the American
and the National League. Infielder. Infielders are dominated by Phillies
because also starting Trey Turner, who's back in healthy, Alec
(32:38):
Bohm who's having an incredible RBI season. He will be
a starter of course the DH and the NL shoheo
Tania the Dodgers, and we talked about Gunner Henderson of
the Orioles last night he is officially a first time
All Star. Henderson had said this past weekend he will
be in this month's home Run Derby. MLB has changed
the rules a bit for the Home Run Derby. For example,
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now just forty pitches within each player's thirty minute round.
You don't have to hurry to try and get in
extra pitches. Batters have been averaging forty three swings per
round last year. Now it's going to be a little
bit more like batting practice, and maybe more people are
say yes to it instead of being so exhausted after
each round such as in past years. Let's look at
the scoreboard. The Phillies are leading nine ninth inning. Yeah,
(33:22):
going to the bottom of the ninth, five to three.
Phillies lead at the Cubs. Padres have taken the lead
at Texas sixt ' four, top of the eighth, Royals
in the bottom of the eighth, lead at home against
the Rays four to two, Brewers in the bottom of
the seventh, lead at Colorado three to nothing, and there
are a few late games. Oriels scoreless in the third
at the Mariners, Dodgers up four to one after one
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against Arizona and the A's lead the Angels to nothing
in the top of the fifth. Pittsburgh edged Saint Louis
five to four in ten innings, with two in the tenth.
Boston and the White Sox with road winds. Cincinnati as well.
Reds beat the Yankees in New York three to two,
Atlanta and Houston with victories. Lebron James will signed with
the Lakers one year plus a player option that Copa
(34:04):
America Argentina starts the quarterfinals tomorrow night on Fox TV
and at Wimbledon, Number two se Coco Goff winner second rounder.
Easily back to you.
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in a second, and maybe it's time Steve to think
someone different. Was the MVP of the Golden State Warriors dynasty,
(35:24):
the real AI. He was the real A. You know,
there was a story last week, and again I told you,
I went back and realized that I first floated the
idea of a quarterback salary cap in the NFL back
in twenty seventeen. Right now, last week, the NFL is
talking about maybe doing this because everything is getting out
of control. Okay, I get it. Watching NBA free agency,
(35:48):
I you know, I'm thinking about this and I go.
You know, the NFL needs a quarterback salary cap. The
NBA needs a jag salary cap. Excuse like they need
a jag salary cap for guys that are just got right,
like they need to because this is what's killing free
agency and killing teams from being able to go get
players because you know this is this is such a
(36:09):
big deal that three quarters of the league can't afford
Isaiah Hartenstein. I mean, like, the guy's getting more money
than Jalen Brunson. He's an eight and six guy. He
had a great moment. Look I'll miss him. He was
a great get for the Thunder. It's awesome. But like
when when when these are guys getting thirty million dollars
a year, like how many teams? Like this is how
(36:30):
you you know it should be equal footing for teams
to get better in free agency. Yeah. Always, players are
gonna make their own choice. They are gonna be able
to pick teams who where they want it. And I
understand that, but here's three quarters of the league that's
out already just because well we can't afford most teams
should be able to afford Isaiah Hartenstein if they want him,
Like you know it should be more than just you know,
(36:51):
five teams that could go get Isaiah Hartenstein.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I know they're like one of them rare, rare big
men that come along. So I'm not sure. Jason Swifth okay,
but he's he's not concact.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
He's not five years, twelve million John Contact. I mean,
he's not Wendy. But it's not just him. It's other
players too. It's like, oh, yeah, well here's a here's
a here's a two year, fifty five million dollar. We
can't afford this is this is this is a guy
that's gonna come off the bench, play twenty two minutes
a night and he's getting twenty eight million dollars a year,
(37:23):
and outside of five teams, they can't afford that player.
Like this is where I look like I go, you
know what, these are players who should be available for everyone.
I get that. The stars aren't. I get the look.
Stars are gonna go. If you have money, you get
a star, you get Jason Tatum, you get Lebron what.
I get that, But you gotta have sith. I mean,
if there was some kind of jag salary cap where
(37:44):
you can say, Okay, hey, this guy's gonna be a
free agent and you could say, all right, yeah, but
look at him. It's Isaiah Hartenstein. We're capping his money
at twelve million dollars a year, Like that's right. I
mean that's a lot of money for you, man, it's
life changing money. But we're capping it at twelve mill
do because we're not You're not gonna make more money,
Jalen Brunson. Right, you're not gonna make more money than
this guy. You're you're an eight and six player, right,
(38:04):
It's it's this is where you're at. We're capping the
jag salary cap has you at twelve million, and then okay,
other teams can go get him and say all right,
we can give isa Harnstein twelve million. Sorry, that'll work,
and then you pick your destination of fair. At least
these teams have a chance at some of these guys.
But when you can't even get a chance at at
at at guys who are who are rotation players, Like
(38:25):
what does that really mean? Like how long can this
keep going in the NBA if rotation guys continue to
make thirty million dollars year, I mean you can't. It's
not feasible.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Now, I hate to break it to you, but in
the NFL, they've had a jag salary cap for a
few decades now, and that's the Jacksonville roster every year.
You know the agents are going to look at that
and say, can we get a new name for this please?
I represent a guy who thinks the star and you're
gonna put him on the just a guy salary cap.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I like.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I like the idea. It's not gonna float like the
quarterback salary cap, which absolutely needs to be in the NFL,
like yesterday, for the good of the league, talk about
things skyrocketing. You know, we were talking about this with
basketball salaries on one of the shows this week. Is
that we're getting to the point where we're eventually going
to have a guy making a million dollars a game.
(39:18):
Even if Lebron takes less money, he's going to be
making a half million dollars per game for the upcoming
Laker season. We've got quarterbacks plural making a million dollars
a game. It's crazy. Can we please separate things? I
agree with the sentiment, at least with what you're talking
about in the NBA, and the reason another reason I'm
not against it is because the NBA is a salary
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cap the league, and therefore it's tied directly to income.
The players aren't getting any crazy money that's not first
coming in to the league and then being spread out
to the teams, and therefore two player salaries. When the
new TV contract goes up, and when it comes in,
it will go up, every team will have more money
to spend. And what you're talking about with Hartenstein, that's
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just gonna be the same thing twice over with other guys.
This is not ending.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
What do you got, Frostburg.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
If there was a jag salary cap in the NBA,
Jason Tatum would be homeless.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Oh wow, Wow, that's a guy who stole Larry O'Brien trophy.
Hasn't given it back yet. Come on, man, he took,
he took. He's still hugging that thing.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Well, that's the one trophy he got postgame after clinching
his juriko.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know the thing that gets me. I've been thinking
about this for all ever since back to the year
where JJ Reddick it just so happened they both came
up for new contracts. JJ Reddick got paid more money
in free agency than JJ Watt and this is back
when JJ Watt was the best defensive player in the NFL. Really,
JJ Reddick got paid more money than JJ Watt. I
mean it was insane.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Did nobody bring that up at the press conference?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Jag salary cap. I'm telling you straight ahead, with what's
going on with Klay Thompson, maybe there's a different person
you should be deemed the MVP of the Warriors dynasty,
and it's not who you think that's next.