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July 4, 2024 40 mins

Jason and Steve celebrate east-coast 4th of July. The Lakers are hiring Nate McMillan & Scott Brooks to help out JJ Redick. And this week with the Dallas Cowboys has been insane!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy East Coast Fourth of July The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Steve
de Saga in for Harmon tonight, where we are about
fifteen hours away, a little bit less from the Fourth
of July Nathan's hot dog eating contest, and still Steve Desager,

(00:49):
I really expected there to be some kind of hey,
here's a headline, late eleventh hour negotiations Joey Chestnut, their
trying to get him into the contest, trying to figure
out some kind of waiver. No, we're gonna get a
Fourth of July eating hot dog eating contest, and what
is going to eat like eight hot dogs?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Sixteen time champion at this Fourth of July event. Apparently,
according to the news story, I read today. He'll be
competing on the fourth of July in a five minute
eating contest against four soldiers at Fort Bliss in Texas.
So he knows that he is banned by Major League
Eating because of his current impossible Foods contract affiliation and

(01:35):
not with Nathan's.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
And wasn't it Fae Vincent who banned him from Major
League Eating? Am I right with that? Uh? No?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
It might have been the Yale guy and somebody else
who was commissioner of Major League Eating who we haven't
seen in years either. I mean, I wonder Jamai from
the dead?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
What is what is that's abart Jamoni?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
What? Like? Was there another like? What is the draw
going to be? Like? How many hot dogs the winter
are gonna because you would win by It's never close, right,
It's it's always Is he gonna top seventy? Can he
get to seventy five? And the person's second place? You know,
Chug's long a coming in second? Is Hey, hey Stony?
You know Matt Stoney eighty eight forty eight hot dogs?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Like, Oh, so, I guess the women's event is really
gonna take the cake, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
That'll be the Black Widow. Yes, Sonya Thomas. But but
you're gonna see some Oh yeah, so it's that forty
eight hot dogs. Okay, yeah, though that's great for Tuesday
at the Smith Residence. Dude, you know what if you
made it instead of Nathan's and I'm being serious, if
you made it Dodger dogs. If you made it Dodger dogs,

(02:42):
I might be able to get to like ten. I
might be able to do I think you can do
ten if I don't eat for a long long time. Dude,
Dodger dogs are so good and I can eat them
in like three bites. Oh man, I love them.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
If this isn't about flavor or what tastes me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, no, this is just about it him in water.
I'm ruining them. What can you shove down your gullet?
Oh you no, No, I get it, like I would
try to eat it with. Here's a little bit of mayonnaise.
Maybe there's some cheese on this hot dog, and I
could maybe get to ten. Because I said, I'm telling you,
I could do a Dodger dog in three bites. And
it's not that difficult of them. It sounds like name
that dog. Now, how long is it doing? Minutes? Three bites. Okay,

(03:19):
so let's say eight minutes it's a dog, dog and
two bites eat that dog. All right, let's just say
it's eight minutes, right, and I get a Dodger dog,
and I can do I can do a Dodger dog
in three bites. Let's just say conservatively, it takes me
twenty seconds to eat a third of a hot dog.

(03:40):
Just not not dunking it, not dunking it, but just
takes me twenty seconds to eat a third of a
hot dog. Dude, do you breathe? So I could do it? Well,
but if I'm hungry, if I'm hungry, and look, and
let's face it, doing radio the last fifteen twenty years
of my life, Like, do you know how how much
I've had to worry about getting a nice three course

(04:01):
meal and eating it in six minutes? You know, the
big long six minute break I get, Hey, I'm gonna
finish all. I'm gonna finish this chicken and the macaroni
and cheese. And the McDonald's had three course meals. Well, yeah,
it's his standards. It's the burger and the fries and
then the chocolate chip cookies at the end. Yeah, of course,
no no, no, with no with burger king the chicken hand. Yeah,

(04:25):
no burger, he's a chicken sandwich and the halapeno fries
and the piece of Hershey Sunday pie. Like that's a
three course meal. But if you get to twenty seconds
for a third of a hot dog, that's that's eight
in eight minutes. And if I'm really hungry, like I
don't eat for a while, I might be able to
squeeze out an extra two. I could maybe get you
ten eating it just like as enjoyable as you can

(04:46):
not because I'm not gonna dunk the the the buns
and no, I'm not gonna do it that way. I'm
gonna eat it like a hot dog. And maybe I
could get to ten. I mean, once you get to
eight minutes, my stomach's gonna go whoa, whoa, whoa. We're
kind of full here. But I might be able to
get to ten kind of I might be able to. Yeah, Mary,
if I'm motivated, come on, there's not a lot I
can't listen. I've been a Mets fan for a long time.

(05:07):
Gotta be motivated. God want rear ruining.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
What you said in the first sentence was a great
tasting dog, the Dodger dog. You're ruining it, not enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
No, I would enjoy that. No, I'd enjoyed the hot dog. No, no, no,
I'm not someone who eat. You know, I take a
bite of food and I love it, and I go, wow,
this is fantastic, and I'm someone two point two seconds. Yeah, No,
I go I'm not someone who says, wow, this is
really good and I'm gonna savor this. I'm someone who says, wow,
this is really good. I want my next bite. Like
I'm not. I'm just sit here. That's right. I can

(05:39):
taste it. I can taste the rosemary, and there may
be a little bit too much brown butter. No, this
is really goodall I'm have another bite. I just finished
this bite. I'm gonna have another bite. You're the chain smokers.
I'd be I'm like a chain eater with something. I
really like this hot dog. Why am I waiting to
take another bite?

Speaker 4 (05:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I love it. I can literally, I really want a
hot dog.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
The Major League Eating Organization did claim in an earlier
statement that both the organization and Nathan's Quote went to
great lengths in recent months to try and accommodate Joey
Chestnut and his management team even agreeing to the appearance
fee and allowing Joey to compete in a rival, unbranded
hot dog eating contest on Labor Day. But no, we're

(06:22):
not going to see Joey there in New York tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
And you know how Chris Berman would report the story.
Ang All Boys, TJ. Clearly, negotiations became impossible with Major
League Eating.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Major League Eating said for nearly two decades, we have
worked under the same basic hot dog exclusivity provisions. However,
it seems that Joey and his managers have prioritized this
new partnership with a different hot dog brand over our longtime,
longtime relations. Yet it does appear that he has prioritized that, Yes,

(06:57):
you are correct.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Just like Tom Cruise in his eight movie series, it
was a mission that was impossible for Joey chest not
to fulfill Birthday Yeah sixty two today Tom Cruise still
playing parts of guys who were thirty five years old.
He sixty favorite Tom Cruise movie.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, come on the hot dog eating movie Dead Reckoning.
That's what would be for most of the competitors' top
gun few good men, Steve Favorite, I'll look at.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
The list, top gun, a few good men and then
top gun mavericks.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
A few good men probably would be it.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, top, but top gunfight become on top gun, top gun,
top gun, few good men, top gun Maverick. So no
eyes went shut. Oh it's on the list, but it's
it's a little bit lower. Far and Away and Far,
Far and Away as No, that's pretty low on the list.
Likes Far and Away Impossible Oh no, No, Mission Impossible
four is up there in the first at the Steelers Stadium. Yeah,

(07:56):
I was a good No. Jack Reacher was good too.
It's a top five though, I mean wow, I mean
you know, you had Eyepatch, you got Jerry Maguire in
there too, and you had uh, you had some some
uh Minority report. Minor Report was good, but you know
it's better. Was Edge of Tomorrow. That was very underrated.
Edge of Tomorrow was really I've seen that movie a
ton that was really good. And Emily Blunt, Yeah, that

(08:18):
was a good one. Rain Man, Yeah, rain Rainman. Rain
Man's up there as well. Sure, sure, sure, the Firm. Yeah,
I mean, look, the guys, the guys have been the
biggest movie star of our lives. I mean Yeah, of course, I.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Don't realized I've never seen a Tom Cruise movie. I'm looking,
I'm like being so dea serious. I'm looking through the
entire thing, and I've never, like i've heard of him.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
He's only made fifty I've heard of him.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
I've heard of like I but like from Scientology and
stuff like that, but like I've.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Never I've heard of the Scientology sub Tropic thunder. Yeah,
I don't even know what that is. I've never seen
a Tom Cruise movie. Like I heard that.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
I didn't the Top Gun Maver like come on years ago?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yes, that was it was a pretty good movie. Yeah,
a few people went to go see in the theater.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Okay, yeah, I would like never I've like heard of
like the movies, but I've never watched a time.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
How many it happens when you have a conversation with
somebody who's what are you?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Eleven? Twelve? You have been in years because.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
You're one hundred and twenty years old, you have to
come from you haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
The Tom Curtis movie. But let me stop right here, Mary,
how many Timothy Shallome movies have you seen?

Speaker 5 (09:26):
I actually haven't seen any, but I know, like three
of those, I like, I know, I know three. I
actually yeah, I know about three, but I've never seen
any Timothy shops.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Okay, I think the two of us would recommend a
few good Men and rain Man out of the fifty.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah, if you good men's your first one. Well,
top Gun and then top Gun Maverick and a few
good Men.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, so both of the top Guns are is the
mission Impossible? Would you guys say those are?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh yeah, Absmission Impossible series is great. Fourth, well, Magnolia
was so that that would be dog Yell yell Gun.
That was Upgun Maverick and a few good Men. Those
are your movies right there. For sure, you go hit
that guy really hard. So while we happy birthday, Tom Cruise.

(10:13):
Most bizarre story in the NBA today and you knew
it was coming and we heard it, and still it
just makes me laugh. The Lakers hired Nate McMillan and
Scott Brooks to be JJ Reddick's assistant. Now, this is
Nate McMillan, who's basically, I think, been a head coach
in the NBA since the nineteen nineties. It's coached three

(10:33):
free teams, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he coached the Blazers for two decades, then he left
and went back he coached. He's been coaching so long
he coached the SuperSonics. That's how long he's been coaching
in the NBA. And Scott Brooks is a guy who's
been a head coach with the Wizards up until twenty
twenty one, and before that he was the head coach
of the thunder Right, these are the guys that they

(10:56):
brought in to be JJ Reddick's assistants right now and
in theory, I get it right, Hey, okay, you have
guys coming in.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Scottbrook's former star guard in southern California. You see Irvine,
Let's not forget this.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Did you go see games or bet on him? Is
that why he was.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
The star of the very first game in the on
campus arena there?

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I remember the night, all right, I had Irvine that
I was given thirteen and I won. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
He developed an NBA career amazingly because at this smaller
college and smaller guy at the guard spot, so you know,
and then wound up with two teams, as you say,
being a head coach.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
In theory, and I get it, Hey, we want to
bring in guys who have a lot of experience helped
round out JJ reddick staff. I get it because I
compare it to Sean McVay getting the job as head
coach of the Rams. What's the first thing he did was, Hey,
I'm an offensive genius. I'm bringing in Wade Phillips to
coach the defense, right, I want to I get it.

(11:54):
I understand what people are gonna say, but I'm bringing
somebody to basically be the head coach of the defense
so I can get my feet and really get what
I'm doing. And it worked, right, they won the Super Bowl.
Sean mcveigh's would be the most in demand head coach
if he walked away from the Rams today. I get it.
But you hired JJ Reddick because he's the guy. He's

(12:16):
he's gonna bring all kinds of stuff out of the team,
Like you want JJ Reddick to impart his culture on
the Lakers. And what did you do? You gave him
two guys that have been coaching in the NBA for
the better part of the last two decades. Like is
JJ Reddick really the answer? Or did you hire him?
Because well it's a headline and you know, we don't

(12:36):
know how good. He really is. But he's a headline.
But don't worry. We'll bring in guys who are really
experienced so they'll be able to really help him out here.
I mean, I mean again, how many times you have
to go down the list and go you wonder why
the Lakers don't win? Right like you want? I was
willing to put out there for Reddick. Okay, is he
really gonna be able to instill a culture? Is he
gonna tell Lebron what to do? Is he gonna tell

(12:58):
ad what to do? Or they gonna do their own thing.
Of course, gonna do their own thing. But one thing
that I said, Okay, Reddick is a guy that has
the cachet being on TV, spitting out hot takes, his podcast.
He's got a cachet with the current players. Now, he's all,
you just finished playing not too long ago. The players
all see and they all know, Hey, maybe that's gonna
be his big strength is being able to talk to

(13:21):
players convince them come sign with the Lakers. Obviously that's
not the case because he's been on the job for
all of eight minutes. The Lakers didn't get anybody. They
know they're not getting anybody, which is why they gave
Lebron James fifty two million dollars a year today because
they know they don't have to worry about Hey, hey,
we're gonna uh uh, Lebron's gonna give back money because
we have money to go give Klay Thompson or somebody else. No,
they're not getting anyone else. So the one thing I said,

(13:44):
maybe Reddick can do this and get kind of that
pied piper. He didn't hero that. And and again I'm
going back to if you like what he does so much,
and he's so much of a culture changer and he's
he's what's next as NBA head coach? You bring in
two guys but doing it for two decades each. I
mean really like how much you really, how confident are
you really? And what JJ Reddick can do. If this

(14:06):
is what you're going to do, you want to bring
in one guy who's a defensive guru or some kind
or an offensive guru. Hey, you know what I get
that part, Hey, this is gonna help with us. But
you basically brought in two guys that have been running
that run their own show for the better part of
the last twenty five years. And and this guy you're
gonna help j Juett. Why don't you just hire Scott
Brooks or Nate McMillan. Why don't you hire both of
them and let him split the job. Hey, Nate, you

(14:28):
coach the home games and I'll coach the away games.
It'll be great, you staying with your family. The next
year will switch. I'll coach the home games, you coach
the away games, also with my family. Like, if that's doing,
why don't you just hire one of these guys?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Don't you remember the later announcement years ago, and we're
gonna have pat Riley, who has no experience, as our
head coach, and Jerry West will be our offensive coach.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Did he did? I just hear that? Right? What is
as soon as we heard.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Reddick is gonna be the guy and they leaked and
they're gonna make sure to get experienced head coaches around
him on staff.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
That's when you knew what you were getting into. Again,
the Lakers go for the headlines, and they go for
relevancy rather than go for winning. Like that's basic. Now
you can see now everything they do makes sense. And look,
we'll get into that coming up next. Because look, Lebron
signs his deal today one hundred and four million dollars.
I told you last night, I can't take the Clippers

(15:21):
seriously as contenders because they just want to be relevant.
Now I can say the same thing about the Lakers.
I cannot take them seriously because they're not about winning.
They're about brand and cachet and I got receipts. That's next.
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Speaker 1 (16:20):
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Steve de Seger in for Harmon tonight. Harmon on his
way back from London. I'm about to fly out to
go to London.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Now, are you gonna promise us to have an actual
British accent as opposed to what's been on this show
before when you come back.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Well, what I'm gonna do is try out my British
accent as I've been doing it and see if I
need to adjust, and I'll adjust on the fly.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Try it out with actual British people.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, you will get I would look, I won't go
get where's all the real cheap Mets Philly stuff from
a series from London series? I want to get to
some real cheap Mets stuff.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Which is so dirty, like you improper, isn't nasty.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Said, just how we speak it, just how it speaks.
It's not so.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
That's a Manchester like accent, dude, that's not even a
London accent.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
You need to hear more Beckham interviews and just copy that.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Like it's just a very nasty like accent. It's not
even a really good you sound.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
The criminals that Corilla deville like employed that are taking
that truck at late night around the village.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
You're all out a crumpets like I sound like one
of those you like, that's just you. But let me
tell you what if? Wy if if? What what if?
What if? What if? What if? Oh? Go if? I
what if? I just what if? I's waiting like that?
Just what what is you from? Stains like you're dude,

(17:48):
I'm gonna borrow my accent from Brad Pitt and snatch
like when you couldn't understand the word he was saying,
that's what I'm gonna do. Just watch Allie g in
the house. At least he's British. That's true. No, that's true,
that's true, or just I could just talk like Michael King.
Michael Kine speaks through his nose like this. He's very
specific and you are only supposed to blow the bloody

(18:08):
doors off. Okay, Michael King accent. There you go. I've
got different places in England that I can do. I'm
I'm I could disappear, I am I am a I'm
a chameleon like I could.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
And said, you could try out that original British accent
of yours on real British people, and then we won't
see you again.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
You will disappear. I could be a spy and disappear
into the woodwork. There is no Jason Smith. He can
anywhere to end for us. He can he can speak,
he can speak the language. Look at that that guy.
You're never gonna find him. You're never gonna find it.
It's like like a few good men Markinson. There is
no Martians, you know markets in the first twenty five
years of his career counterintelligence. There is no marketson If

(18:51):
you don't want to find him, He's not gonna.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Be the movie there by the way, that's.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
One that Mary will go see to bring it full circle.
But definitely top Gun and top Gun Maverick and then
you see if you could win. Now, it's been a
lot tonight about the Lakers, but look they made all
the big headlines today and the biggest story has been
lebron James and his new one hundred and four million
dollar contract with the Lakers. This is not surprising because

(19:17):
we knew that after Bronny got his what is this
Steve three years and ninety five.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Millions a team option where he's got to about eight
million dollars.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Okay, So, so bronni gets paid and you knew Lebron
was going to stay so much for Hey, Lebron will
take less if we can bring in a star player.
Now you know the Lakers are not bringing in a
star player because Lebron gets the maximum two years and
one hundred and four million dollars right, one year, definitive.
He hasn't opt out after this. He's taking it year

(19:48):
to year, which he should. He's not going to be
someone that sticks run it. Yeah, it's it's looking for
for Lebron. Hey, he won today, right, he absolutely won.
But you know the Lakers aren't anybody And now you know,
and we talked about it when it happened, Lebron says,
I'll take less money if I if we can get
a star, meaning we don't get a star. I'm getting

(20:09):
that money. I mean, forget about making it easier to
make a trade or bring somebody. No, no, no, no,
I'm getting every dollar you could possibly bayby. So here's
Lebron two years, one hundred and four million dollars and
the Lakers, now you know they're not getting anybody else. Right.
We talked to last night Lakers insider Mark Medina. We
talked to Rick Buker tonight. It's like, where are the

(20:30):
Lakers getting everybody else from? It's not happening like this
is the team they're going to training camp with. And
and the biggest thing about this that just makes me
shake my head because there's so much fun stuff the
last couple of days the Lakers is that this is
a team that is going to Lebron and there's going
to be quote a conversation with Rich Paul, Lebron's agent

(20:53):
Clutch Sports, about Lebron giving back a million dollars so
the team can stay under the second Apron, which will
help them financially, and it also makes things flexible for
them to go out and get other players when they
need to, whether it's before the season, during the season.
There's a lot of inside baseball with this, but basically,
if Lebron takes a million dollars less, that will help

(21:14):
the Lakers financially, and it will also help them be
able to make a better roster. And there's going to
be a conversation Rich Paul says about this, not oh,
of course we'll give you back a million dollars. We'll
take fifty one million dollars instead of fifty two million dollars. No,
there'll be a conversation. This is after the Lakers drafted Browny,

(21:35):
gave him a contract that so few guys in the
second round get, gave him a one way deal. He's
on the Lakers roster. Yes, they gave him the max
for two years. And it's not Oh, of course I'll
give a million. He's head coach. No, no, no, Now
they got to do him another fit. Now, now Rich
Paul is going to say, oh, hey, if I give
you this million dollars, you owe me. It's like, oh wow,

(21:55):
I mean, come on, man, do you really want to win?
Do you really care about winning? I mean, look, there's
lots of stuff that happens with Lebron where no matter
what the story is, it can get twisted to be boy,
look at Lebron, this is his fault. Look at Bbron,
and it's not right. Lebron's been very polarizing for the
last twenty five years. A lot of it he brings
on himself. But this is one of those stories where

(22:16):
you go, dude, look at what the Lakers have done
for you, right, All they have done for you that
we just outlined and you can't say, hey, a million
dollars back, So fifty one million free instead of fifty
two and that will really help us financially and to
bring in players and help. And that's got to be
a conversation, like what are you really about? Like, really,
was Lebron ever gonna say, hey, I'll give back money

(22:39):
to sign a star player. I'm beginning to think there
was no way. Maybe his conversation with Clay was, Hey, dude,
don't come here because I'm not giving m any money back,
not doing it. But the conversation was presented as oh
Lebron called Clay, maybe called to say, dude, I got
to get this one hundred and four million, so there's
no money for you. Go to Dallas. Go to Dallas.
They're gonna give you cash, I promise. Like, how much

(22:59):
doesn does he really care about winning? He can say, oh,
I want to win, I want to do this, I
want to and how much does he care? I mean,
this is something that should be an easy give back
for Lebron to say, but instead, now, oh, it's a negotiation.
If you're an agent, yeah, of course you want everything
to be in negotiation. You want to seem like you've won.
But Rich Paul's done a lot of winning. In the
last week, the drafting LEBRONI the contract, Rich Paul's done

(23:22):
a lot of winning. He can be seen as he
all right, let me see if I can help the
Lakers or Lebron can help. They give back a million dollars.
Let's just do it this way. The fact that it's
got to be a conversation just makes me laugh. And
you wonder why the Lakers don't win. You wonder why
they don't win. You wonder why suddenly every year is
just hey, we're kind of meandering with the same team
we've had the last couple of years. Because this is

(23:44):
how business is done. They can't even get the start
and say, yeah, of course, here, take a million dollars
back and go sign somebody else. Or I'll take thirty
five million if that helps us get another player. We
can get a really good player for you know, fifteen
or twenty five. If that great, we'll do that. No, no, no,
not going to do it, not that he has to,
but to put this out there that oh, yeah, I'll
do stuff and I'll help. When it's got to be

(24:05):
a conversation to give back a million dollars if it's
got to be a conversation to give back a million dollars.
Lebron was really gonna be okay if they said, hey,
we can get Clay for three years and fifty five million,
but Lebron, you got to sign for twenty eight million
a year. Like Lebron was gonna be okay with that.
He's he doesn't want to give back a million unless
he gets something back here. He was going to give

(24:25):
twenty eight million. I don't know if that was ever
really gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Ever since Lebron arrived, the Lakers have really hitched their
wagon to him. I mean he was he seemed like
the general manager for a while, and how did that
work out? But for good or ill, and I mean
that literally in both cases, they have been tied to him.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
There's a lot of good.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
He is averaging twenty seven points, eight rebounds, eight assists
for his Laker careers. So a guy who turns forty
in December and this is gonna be his twenty second
NBA season, tying Vince Carter's record. He can still produce
on the court, and he played a lot of games
last year. But the Lakers also Oh. One other positive is,
of course, the governor of this team used to be

(25:05):
the business head of this team, and there's a lot
to market when you have Lebron James on your roster,
so you can keep going in that department. Lakers still popular,
Lakers ticket including in the front row, still popular, all
of that. But Lebron has played with the Lakers for
six years. Yes, they won the title in twenty twenty.
That was their only great year out of the six.
They missed the playoffs entirely twice, finishing under five hundred twice,

(25:28):
and they also lost in the first round two times,
including this year. And you're gonna have essentially the same
roster from this past season, the one that got swept
in the first round. Essentially, Remember all those leads they
were blowing against Denver and then they called it a
gentleman sweep and clothes losing in five. They were not

(25:50):
the superior team in that series. And then the Nuggets
themselves got knocked off. So how close are you to
winning a championship? Are actually competing for the NBA Finals
at this point? This roster is essentially gonna be your
roster next year. You're tied to him and we said
it at the time, good luck. There's some success clearly

(26:10):
in there. But you also get this, and.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
That's a bigger point because we talked last night about
the Clippers and how I can't take them serious as
contenders because they've basically admitted we just want to buy relevance.
It's right. It's why they keep giving Kawhi Leonard money.
It's why they gave James Harden two years and seventy million.
They even said in their goodbye to Paul George, hey,
look what he was able to do for us to

(26:33):
keep us in contention the last few years. It reached
the Western Conference final. Winning a championship is not at
the top of the Clippers to do list. Being relevant
and being invited to the party. That's what the Clippers want.
They want to be relevant. They like being a nice
forty five to fifty win team. They don't want to
be the laughing stocks they used to be, and I can't.
But I can't take them seriously as title contenders because

(26:56):
they really just want to be at the party. It's
the same thing for the Lakers. And when you realize that,
you can understand all the moves they've made. The Lakers
want to be the Lakers. Genie Buss, Rob Polenka want
the Lakers to have that cachet. They still want to
be the shining stars of the NBA, and they can

(27:16):
do that as long as they have Lebron James. Right
if they didn't have Lebron and Ad was the best player, yeah, okay,
but Ad is as good a player as he is.
Lebron is an icon, and win or lose, the Lakers
are the Lakers, and they're at the top of every conversation,
just like the Dallas Cowboys the New York Yankees throw

(27:36):
everything in you want. The Lakers can keep that as
long as Lebron plays, and it doesn't matter if they
win or lose, because they still are the Lakers and
they're still every year, maybe they win, but if they don't,
they don't have to because they have Lebron. And that's
what the Lakers have been doing for the past few years.
Now it all makes sense. Why do they capitulate to
Lebron because they need them. They've always had stars they win,

(28:00):
from Kareem and Magic to Shaq and Kobe, and now
it's Lebron and it's we can't not have them we
gotta have. We don't have Lebron. What kind of identity
do we have? We don't have anything. We gotta keep them.
Does winning matter? Yeah, maybe we win, maybe we don't,
But that doesn't matter. The Lakers want to be the
Lakers and they want that relevancy and they get it

(28:20):
as long as Lebron is playing, which is why they've
been bending over backwards. Let's extend your career. Whatever you want.
Here's money, we'll draft your kid, We'll give you the
head coach, you want, anything you want, We'll keep giving
it to you. Because he brings the cachet to them,
and when they realize we don't know if we can
build a championship team, this is the next best thing.
So now I can't take the Lakers seriously as contenders

(28:41):
because this is their aim. Their aim is to be
the Lakers. There aim is not to be world champion Lakers.
If it was different, decisions would have been made, Different
players would have come in. Lebron and Ad wouldn't have decided, Hey,
let's go get Russell Westbrook, which is a decision that's
still haunting the Lakers to this day. Different things would
have been done, Decisions, different players would have been brought

(29:01):
in different attitudes, different hardlines for different things. But no, no, no, Hey,
we just want Lebron to be playing and be happy
because we're the Lakers. As long as Lebron is here,
that's what they care About's why I can't take them
seriously as a title contender. And when you think about it,
everything they've done to make Lebron happy make sense if
that is their.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Aim, Yes, absolutely, because you haven't gotten the results in
recent years on the court, the GM his moves, this,
tying to him, tying to his family, tying to his coach.
I don't see how that's going to work out any
different than your last few years, where I repeat, you
just got bounced badly in the first round. We will

(29:41):
have more NBA news in a couple minutes in the trendings.
But Jason, there's a couple items that have come up
tonight that I want to address. One in the context
of the National Women's Soccer League had a huge scandal
a couple of years ago about player safety and no
accountability in management and a system in that league that
failed to address player complaints. And now you know the

(30:02):
name Jill Ellis. She won a World Cup with the
US women's team as the head coach. She's the club
president with the San Diego Wave, and a former employee
there has alleged a pattern of abusive behavior by Jill Ellis.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
The team has.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Denied the accusations, but the former employee, Brittany Alverado, alleged
devastating mental health impacts for herself and other employees, saying
Jill Ellis has no place in this game. Her actions
have been life altering. She prioritizes personal gain over employees
well being. The team says these are categorically false accusations

(30:41):
and that we intend to pursue all legal avenues to
address this matter. However, after these allegations came out, there
were two additional former employees that have since come forward
with similar claims on social media. Point number two US
Men's Soccer. Even their supporter group American Outlaws Tonight, has

(31:03):
issued a statement calling for the ouster of head coach
Greg Berhalter after the team was eliminated quickly at the
recent Copa America. Quote there needs to be accountability and
a plan to move forward for the US men's national team.
It's time to make a change in the head coaching position.
Our Copa America was over too soon. It was a

(31:24):
moment to show progress. We've heard from our members, our
chapter leaders, that the US men need a change, and
change is necessary to prepare to compete at home in
the next World Cup.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
All ready for my interview, I can zoom in from London.
I remember, I'm ready for my interview. Hey, what's your strategy.
We'll get the ball to Polisic. That's not good enough.
That's what Burholter does. How can you tell me that's
not good enough?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Come on, let's get to the NBA shell we First off,
you heard about the Lakers. Lebron James will re sign
with the team one year plus a player option. The
Lakers have two new assistant coaches, Nate McMillan and Scott Brooks.
Tory and Prince will reportedly sign with Milwaukee. Minnesota signed
veteran Joe ingles In, PJ.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Dozier.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Miami got Alec Burks and Thomas Bryant. Phoenix resigned Damian Lee.
The NBA's new league year opens this Saturday. Officially, the
new salary cap is about one hundred and forty million
dollars per team. Lebron's going to be making over fifty
mil of that just by himself this next year for
the Lakers. Potentially, it's a two year deal worth over
one hundred mil total. Kemball Walker was hired as the

(32:28):
Hornets player Enhancement coach, whatever that is. He officially retired yesterday.
Walker played in Europe last season. He's the all time
leading scorer in Charlotte Hornet's history. The Summer League games
start this Saturday, including with the Lakers in San Francisco.
There's a brief Salt Lake City Summer League that'll be
Monday through Wednesday next week, and then the Summer League.
The one in Las Vegas goes from July twelfth to

(32:50):
twenty second, with all thirty NBA teams involved veg Each
club there in Vegas will play at least five games.
Vegas is going to be hosting the US men's Olympic
team train including an exhibition on FS one on the tenth.
US VERSUS Canada. Very interested to see the Canadian roster
and how they do at the Olympics. But we still
have four spots open for the Paris men's basketball competition

(33:13):
this month. Those last qualifying tournaments started yesterday and Greece,
playing at home this week, beat the Dominican Republic easily
today as Giannis Antenakumpo at thirty two points in nineteen minutes. Yesterday,
Croatia had beaten Slovenia and Luka Donsig, but Croatia in
its next.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Game not a winner.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
New Zealand came back to beat the ninety to eighty
six to Major League Baseball Top of the seventh in
La Arizona, now leading the Dodgers eight to four, and
that's the last game on the books because the Orioles
have completed a victory for to one at Seattle. Meanwhile,
the Yankees lost at home tonight three to two to Cincinnati.
The Yankees now two games out in the AL East.

(33:53):
As we head toward the fourth of July, the Orioles
are in first. Houston was only three games behind first
Seattle in the AL West. They're now only two back
now that the Seattle home loss is final because Houston
won its game earlier nine too at Toronto. The game
was tied to to go unto the seventh.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Didn't they have a ten game lead in the West
on Monday? I mean pel it was ten games seemingly everybody.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Every division except the Al East was eight to ten games.
Recently Atlanta and Philadelphia with wins, and Washington was down
five nothing to the Mets. In the fifth Mets it
hit three homers, Francisco Lindor with his fifteenth Mets came
back for a seven five victory.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show
with Steve Desager in for Mike Harmon. Coming up next,
we have a big story out of the NFL coming
your way that well, let's just say, if you like controversy,
this team always is there to oblige. That's next right here,
this is Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
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Speaker 1 (35:01):
The Jason Smith Show is Steve de Sager and for
Mike Carmen, Happy East Coast fourth of July. You know,
just when you think, boy, the Lakers, they just keep
giving us all this gold and all of these crazy
ass stories and the Dallas Cowboys go okay, wait, let's
remember who the original crazy story team is. It's us.
This week for the Cowboys has been absolutely insane. It

(35:24):
started off with the reports that Jerry Jones and Mike
McCarthy are giving differing not orders, but differing strategies as
to how the team should be run. That Mike McCarthy
has ideas and says this is what I want to do,
and Jerry Jones says, no, we're going to do this instead,
and coaches don't know who to take their orders from,

(35:45):
and it's just a lot of came.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
What about Cede Lamb contract and Michael oh Shore.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
All these guys want to get paid and Jerry Jones
said nope, we're all in on twenty twenty four, and
now you have the podcast controversy from the last couple
of days. League Hooker went on a podcast and said that,
you know, Michah Parsons, as great a player as he is,
should probably concentrate more on the team and how to

(36:10):
get everybody going and being on the same page. Then
he does what he says on his podcast. And I
love the fact that Malik Hooker went on a podcast
to say Micah Parson should cool it on his podcast, irony,
but no, my podcast is good. Your podcast is not good.
I could do it, But athletes, they just think podcasts
like the greatest thing in the world. Like, I think

(36:31):
you could really get under the salary cap and say Okay, hey, great,
here's what I want to give you as a free agent.
What do you got. Well, I'm not going to give
you any money, but I'm gonna give you your own podcast.
Oh that's what I'll do. I'll sign right now. What
do you got? How about ten years one podcast, two
episodes a week and whatever advertising you bring in, you

(36:53):
keep that money. What do you think? Oh? Where can
I sign? I want to sign.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I want a podcast podcast. They're just rolling in dough
already because of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
What a podcast? Somebody tell a crazy story, so my
podcast can get attention. Somebody tell a story.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Quick as you said, it's the comment about his podcast,
but he makes on another podcast. Maybe this would fit
the definition of isn't it ironic that we were talking
about this week? Is this actually one we love to
talk about their podcast if we don't subscribe.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
No, we just can't quote their podcast if we don't subscribe,
So we can't do that. So after this gets out, Michaeh.
Parsons runs back and says, dude, why didn't you just
talk to me about it instead of going on a
podcast and I love the podcast. There question, and Malie
Cooker kind of backed off a little bit. I'm probably
because he felt he proved his point. Hey, we don't
need any more distractions. And MICHAEH. Parsons clearly is a

(37:46):
guy where if things go poorly, hey, is he gonna
shy away? Make sure I'm not gonna air any dirty laundry. No,
of course not. He's gonna say what tea was terrible
this week? We stunk. He doesn't want that to happen.
So I think was kind of a warning shot really
at Michael Parsons. But this is a team that just
can't get away from controversy. And obviously we know that.

(38:07):
But what people don't know is this is that everybody
and all at pundits and experts and analystsics, Hey, cowboys
are in a crazy season. Is seed Lam'm gonna get paid?
Nobody understands exactly what this season is for the Cowboys.
We told you from the beginning. Jerry Jones is all
in meant I'm not spending money on anybody this season.

(38:29):
We're gonna see what happens and then we're gonna go
from there. In twenty twenty five, Jerry Jones has seen
Dak Prescott the best part of his career. He's seen
a lot of what's going on. He has said, Hey,
i'm eighty, but I'm gonna be around a while and
I'm running things and I'm feeling pretty good. There are
going to be the biggest sweeping changes you could possibly
imagine with the Cowboys. If they have a bad year

(38:52):
this year and they're not gonna have a great year
because they didn't spend money to improve, and if you
weren't good enough last year, you don't suddenly get good
enough in a year. You're gonna see after this year
it's new head coach, new quarterback. Ceedee Lamb isn't gonna
get paid, Michael Parsons isn't gonna get paid. The Dallas Cowboys.
There's gonna be a huge personnel, a changeover. Maybe even

(39:12):
Bill Belichick comes in to coach the team. Like this
is gonna be the biggest change you've seen in the
Cowboys in one year. In the Jerry Jones era, he
is telling us this is what's going on, but nobody's
picking up on it, and the players saying, well, we
need to get this, we need to do X Y
and Z. No, this is what's going on. If you're
not good, all of you guys are gonna be gone.
Maybe Michael Parsons gets paid, maybe he doesn't. Maybe he's

(39:33):
gone somewhere else and the Cowboys start over again. But
that's what Jerry Jones is gonna do. He's gonna start
over everywhere after this year and reload on the fly.
That's what's going on with the Dallas Cowboys, and people
just don't get it.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Mike McCarthy's been a head coach for three straight twelve
and five teams won the division a couple of those times,
but when they keep getting bounced in the playoffs and
not getting to the NFC Championship game, the Cowboys standard
has to be this. I know they haven't gotten out
of their own way so often since the mid nineties,
but you don't. This is yet another franchise that should

(40:08):
not be putting up banners for division titles, even though
McCarthy's won a couple. I had to look up how
many division titles the Lakers have won. The answer is
thirty four. The answer is also, it doesn't matter how
many division titles the Lakers have won. Although piggybacking on
our Laker franchise. You know how things are going currently, conversation.
They haven't even won that in the last four years.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
No, you just went whole rock right there. How many
divisions of the Lakers won thirty It doesn't matter how
many divisions of Lakers have won, because I haven't won
in a while. And it's all about this year. But
I'm telling you it's going to be an unreal off
season of change for the Cowboys truck and that's what
people understand. But get it because it's happening coming up next.

(40:52):
An NBA salary cap idea, I guarantee would be great,
but just having it
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