July 5, 2024 • 40 mins
Arnie Spanier & Bernie Fratto rank the NFL teams from worst to first for this upcoming season.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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tire buying should be. Hope you had a good fourth
of July, Bernie, Hope you had a child out on
some dogs. I went to Hamburger route because my wife
always yelling at me about what I eat. Don't get
that it's got sunflower oil or sunoil or some type
of oil or something bad. I'm not allowed to eat, Bernie,
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is what it comes down to anymore. I'm not allowed to.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We gotta fix that. Yeah, I crushed some dogs. Three burger,
A little cheesecake, actually a lot of cheesecake.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh that's my favorite, Berdie.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That's my weakness. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I asked my wife to get dessert, and usually we
just put down a whole cheesecake this whole week that
we got from Costco, and she decided to get watermelon.
I'm like, come on, come on, very but that's not
a pre show dessert. Gotta have something like an oversized
chocolate chip cookie or a piece of cheesecake or or
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something like that. You you can't go with the water.
Last time you did that, you threw up during this
I threw up, Yeah, show a whole entire segment.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
He went mute and was literally cough like throwing up
so bad.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Up, let's play some of that sound.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Chris was asking me questions, and he said he couldn't
understand why it was only giving him one of two
word answers. And then these guys back in the studio like,
are these kind of quiet today? That's because I would
say two words and then I would turn down my mind.
I would turn off my mic and get sick in
the bucket. What happened was it was my birthday and
I had like two or three pieces of it. It
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was not your birthday piece, so I was my wife's.
Was my wife's birthday? Yeah, it was yours birthday, my
wife's birthday. So I had two or three pieces of cake.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Who made the cake?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We bought? It was bought.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I was gonna say, thank god that would have been.
That wouldn't have been a good testimony for your wife's cooking.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
If and then and then I had a lot of
Eminem's like a jar.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Playing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They were the peanut and Eminem's heart. My wife made
some chicken and I told her the chicken made me sick.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh, so the wife made the chicken that made you sick,
and the cake and the m and ms paid the price.
And it turned out to be Radio Gold and Mary
Max working overtime, so people can hear you yack on
the air. Yes, I pretty much summed that up.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, so I had to turn down my microphone. I
was really sick. I was pretty much sick like the
entire show. I was just cutting it through there. But yeah,
it wasn't it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The best time it was.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It was tough. That was tought of a lot of
sweets that day.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And you're now complaining about watermelon.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I like, we don't want you thrown up on air. Dog,
I'm not allowed to eat until twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Now, just that is a lie. Don't lie like that
to the national radio. I don't lie like that, all right, Bertie.
I want a couple of things. I want to get through.
Say this is the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You have a list of the famous people that were
born on the fourth of July, right, famous people born.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
There's a lot of famous people born on the fourth
of July. Of course, we talked about morgana right show. Right,
born on July fourth, nineteen. I think it's forty seven.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Right, that would make her about what seventy seventy seven
years old?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Wow, Now, I don't think I've ever talked to you
about this. Are you were you a Raiders fan? No?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
No, I'm a Dolphin fan. That's okay.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So you know Al Davis, of course, the great Al
Davis born on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Really, that's funny because Steve Hartman, I believe is born
on the fourth of July. He worked.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, David, that's right, Steve Hartman, are Fox.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That should have been the first one you brought up, Bertie,
Shame on you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I got a few I got a few holes in
my game. Plus I had some bad chicken and cake
earlier in the night. That Tom Cruise was not born
on the fourth of July. Of course he did the
movie Born on the fourth of July. But if you
want to get a little current post Malone Borth on
the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh, I like him.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, Will Smith the football player.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But anyway, oh Tom, Will Smith and Will Smith.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
To the best of my knowledge, No, maybe someone can
correct me. I don't. I don't think so. Uh, you know,
as far as you know him. But actually the list
is actually a lot longer than than you really think.
Uh the famous play, right Neil Simon. Oh yeah, I
think one of Barack Obama's daughters is born on the fourth,
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like Calvin Coolidge, one of our our US presidents born
Bill Withers, who had the great song just the two
of Us, right, right, right, I've heard of him, right,
He had a lot of He had a lot of
really good songs, Bill Bill Withers did. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So you know that comminent seems like the birthdays on
the fourth of July.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Oh yeah, there there are There are a lot of entertainers.
I mean there are a lot of uh you know,
I think luminaries and politics, all kinds of people. So yeah,
I mean I might have oversold it, but the fourth
of July is one of those birthdays. It's distinctive and
and there's there's a lot of people, uh that you
might not stop to think of that that were actually
born on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You know, I was gonna tell you this, My buddy
has the worst birthday, uh, that you can have now
if you think think about it. No, No, that's that'd
be the second worst edd Halloween. No, Birdie was close though.
I said, why would Halloween be a bad day to
have your brown No got answers that New Years New
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Year's No, not New Year's either. No, not December twenty sixth,
the day after Christmas.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
That's good Dan Canada. Was he born in Canada?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No, he wasn't. But everybody's all bummed out because the
holidays are over. Christmas is over, people are getting back
to work, and everybody forgets about December twenty sixth. It's
it's like the forgotten day. It's the worst day to
have a birthday.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I think Jlack Friday. You know where is that I
have a breath?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, you know a couple other people, since we are talking.
George Steinbrenner, the former Yankee owner, was also born on
the fourth of July. Heraldo Rivera is still knocking around.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Though what the University of Arizona.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That was probably back in the thirties, right, he's like
eighty five years old now, isn't he.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Uh yeah he is.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
He's still knocking around. I mean he's still out there.
But you know, obviously people know who Horolo.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Is of course, of course.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
By the way, uh, nature boy tweets in he said
post Malone, not Carl Malone.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's what I said, post Malone. Yeah, yeah, I said,
I said, let's take it currently.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Because I said, I like that guy. And oh I
see Nature boys making fun of me like I wouldn't
like pauh.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I got it. Okay, guy, he's taking a shot out here, and.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
He taking a shot, so yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You want to go deep in the cookie jar? There
was a famous actress, now, okay, I went to Gina
a little bridget.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I know, yeah, a lot of time ago.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, she was born, she was born.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
That was before my time though, Bernie a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Way yeah, before my time as well, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, wow, good nice. I like that list, all right,
Bertie Fratto lay spat, you're in for the guys. Jason
Smith and is best friend Mike Carmon. I want to
get to some NFL actually a lot of NFL going on.
I don't know when to start off with Dak because
earlier today, all of a sudden, out of the blue,
all of a sudden, I see the reports coming out
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Dak is in a walking boot. Dak is in the
walking boot. I'm like, okay, let's let's slow down. What's
going on? And then there was a picture of Dak
in a walking boot. Then Pro Football Talk comes out
and I think I sent you this article saying, Dak
Prescott no logger in a walking boot. I don't know
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what's going on, But is it like he just put
on that walking boot for the day for some fashion statement.
Here is something going on with Dak Prescott that we
don't know. Is this a not a big deal? Berdie?
What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know? Well, I don't know. It's okay, so let's
have a little fun with this. Yeah, people are looking
for the smoking gun. Do you remember years ago when
Jeff Kent was playing for the New York or the
San Francisco Giants and he claimed he broke his wrists
while washing his car, and then they found out he
might have been riding motorcycles off road during the off season,
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which he denied it. And we'll never really know what happened.
So people are kind of looking for that that smoking gun.
And here's I'm coming to a point here with Dak
Prescott because I get the biggest kick out of him.
I've never heard anybody who's met him or been around
him say anything bad about him. And if you like
your quarterbacks to light it up in the regular season
and then look like a drunk crossing an icy street
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in the post, he Dak is your guy. If you
want to see a stat stuffer, Dak is your guy.
He's never gonna win a damn thing. Okay, I've gotten
convinced of that. Save that, Kevin, save that or Patrick?
Excuse me say that? Patrick can Mary. I'll live with
it if he wins the super Bowl? Okay? All right?
So where am I going with this? Every time you
think you've seen it all, you see something new. Now
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I'm gonna draw a Mike Tyson reference into this. I
remember years ago there was a comedian did a great
Remember when Tyson got in all that trouble? Well, you know, people,
did you think I quest my BMW into a tweet
and I get about Mick blood BLI meet a fight
with Mick blood Green in the middle of the night.
And it's all part of my twining, part of.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I'll give you that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yes, it's my first time ever trying, and I keep Jackson.
Now I want to content, Jim Lanthley, you give me
a all right, I got off track. So people have
noticed that on social media Dak Prescott's walking in a
walking boot. That's Department of redundacy department on his right
ankle in Cobbo, San Lucas. So people started asking questions,
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So what does Dak Prescott say? Well, you remember, Arnie.
Four years ago, Dak Prescott broke his ankle. He fractured
his ankle, or broke his ankle. He had a pretty
bad compound fracture against the New York Giants, mister final
eleven games of the season. He claims that that same
ankle in the offseason every year he likes to wear
a boot on vacation because Coles. The last time I
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went de Sa fishing, Michael slowed up. But other than that,
I'm great. Wow, why don't we see That's why I
did the Mike Tyson thing. Okay, what are you doing, Dak?
Are you peed on your shoes and telling us raining
what really happened down there. Now, maybe nothing happened, but
this is all part of the circus ass And then
he took.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It off if he was feeling some heat for some reason.
He took it off a couple of hours later.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know which. And this is this all adds to
the lunacy because he said he likes to wear the
walking boot while he's vacationing because it's the same ankle,
same issues from four years ago. Un Quote Allegedly, he
told Barns Hill of the Fort Worth Star Telegram that
that's merely part of my regular maintenance I've been doing
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for the last four years since I injured my right
ankle back in twenty twenty. The watchd you take it off?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah? Exactly. I'm not buying that in a for a second, Bernie.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So there you have it. More drama in Dallas. Gee,
who knew?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Do you think he's hurt though? Do you think it's see?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You just don't know, you know, maybe he you know,
maybe he went out disco dancing and rolled over on it.
I don't know who. You don't know, and we're not
gonna know. And he gave a lad answer that I
don't buy and I don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
You buy it either, that he does it every year.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, that it's all part of his maintenance in the
off season. Yeah, because the ankle he injured back in
twenty two. I want to say it was twenty twenty.
I just don't remember, but he heard it. He did
hurt it pretty bad, missed the last three months of
the season.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You remember, you know, we were talking about this last
suddenly when I were doing the show with Plank, Who
would you rather have? Would you rather have Dak Prescott
or tu? And I was making the case big time
for two especi of his two was putting up big numbers,
and now the two has kind of you know, went
healthy last year. I don't know why they're not giving
him the big money, but I'd rather have tour right now.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I think I would too at this stage in his career.
And just just to bring back some old memories, you
have to remember four years ago when Dak went down,
that opened the door for the great Ben Denucci. Yes, exactly,
not to be confused with Don Finucci or the Godfather
the black Hand. Probably would have been better off with him.
Who would you rather have? Don Ferucci or Dak Prescott?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, if he doesn't get it done, people are gonna
say enough is enough with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
You know if my god, you're the eternal Optimists, and
you actually, first of all, as you know that division
hasn't had a repeat winner in like nineteen years. Well,
Dallas won it last year. I don't expect him to.
I think Philadelphia's coming and I you know, I think
Dallas is in trouble this year. I think it finally
catches up with him. And I'm not saying they're not
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going to make the playoffs or anything, but they're in
big trouble.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You can get a hold of us on Twitter at
Bernie Fratto. I'm at Stinking Genius One. We're getting a
lot of them, so go ahead and reach us that
way at Bernie Fratto, at Stinking Genius one. Bernie hard
Knocks started Tuesday. It's just not the same anymore. I
know there was one comment where they were saying, you
think they were pumping up Daniel Jones. You think we
want our forty million dollar quarterback handing off to a
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twelve million dollar running back. I'm not buying it a
Daniel Jones. I think it's going to be another horrible
season for the Giants this year.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Let me start with Hard Knocks. Is that also jumped
the shark?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Absolutely one hot?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I mean Hard Knocks. The Hard Knocks. Hard Knocks was
really good and you don't even chow players being cut anymore.
Then you did this goofy in season Hard Knocks, right,
and now you got this off season Hard Knocks off
season with the New York Giants. They had the premiere
episode the other night. It's become like Law and Order.
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There's too many of them, right, you had Law and Order, SUV,
Law and Order, Sex Crimes, law and Order, Parking Ticket's Division.
It's stupid. They got too many of them. Now you
got this Hard Knocks off season and they think they're
like bringing you behind the curtain. And you know what
do you think they're gonna say in that meeting? Oh man,
we gave Daniel Jones forty Maine. Boy, did we screw
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that up? No, they're gonna say this is his year.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I can feel it. I can feel it here it comes.
I don't think I'll be watching Hard Knocks anymore. I
watched it the real one, right, but not that not
this offseason.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
No, I saw that it was on Tuesday, and I'm like,
I'm sure we'll just get the Cliff knows if they
say anything worthwhile. Back in the day, when it first
came out, it was I'm like, oh, I gotta have this.
Leave me alone. I'm not going out to dinner. I'm
watching Hard Knocks.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It was.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It was a big TV show.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Maybe it's like kind of American idolist, remember when American
idol used to be so popular.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Or you don't have Simon coll anymore either. Maybe they
could put Simon collin hard Knocks. That would you know?
But but Harnie, listen, nobody. There was a real, raw, tangible,
visceral feel to Hard Knocks back in the day. They
they'd bring in a player and then cut them. No
one wants to see anybody to lose their job, and
a lot of these guys end up landing elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But there was that.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
One player that defensive back. He says, well, some we're
moving on. You had a good camp. I think you're
gonna land somewhere, but we're gonna We're gonna let you go.
I gotta call my grandma. Who was that guy? Do
you remember that he's not gonna call my grandma. Well
it was raw motion, and so there's some of that.
And I think when you have you know, it's the
Bears this year, right, is it the Bears the Giants?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And the Giants are gonna be the hard knocks teven
this year?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, no, no, I'm talking about the real hard knocks
when you start in in July and August, the preseason.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I don't know. I think the Bears might be uh yeah,
I think they'd have a good year there too. Also
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I'm not sold on them. I think that's uh. I
think that's a that's gonna be a tough putt. But
that's a that's a conversation for a different day. You know, Look,
it's gonna it's gonna be the Bears. Its premiere premiers
talk at six, So you're gonna get to see Kayleb Williams. Right,
You're gonna get to see there's expect there's real expectations there,
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you know. And I remember god years ago when they
had to Houston, Texans. Bill O'Brien, if he had a
nickel for every F bomb he dropped, he'd be you know,
Elon Musk could be mowing his lawn and so you
see these guys and sometimes they're pandering for the camera.
That's another thing that I think that we've all kind
of grown tired of. It was twenty years in but
as far as Tuesday Night they met well. But it's
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a miss for me. On this offseason Hard.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Knocks, He's Bernie Fredromarty Span You're Bernie. Something I like
to talk about as we get ready for every football season,
especially or about a week away from the started training camps,
teams that can go from worse the first. I'll explain
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Speaker 2 (17:37):
All right, good, you think everybody? Bernie Fredo, Arnie Spanier
here on Fox Sports or Radio, sitting in for the
guys tonight, Chas and Smith at his best friend Mike
Harmon right here at the tirech dot Com studios. Bernie
on an average of pretty much once a year for
like over like the last twenty years. Sometimes there's not
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one in a year, and sometimes there's two in one year,
but for the most part, in an average of one
a year, a team goes from worse to first in
the NFL, which is why I love the NFL. I mean,
talk about being so unpredictable. You can draft the right
guy or sign the right free agent, and you can
go from worse to first. I thought we'd see which
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teams do you think have a possibility Not so much
that it's going to happen, but just the possibility of
going from worse to first. Let's start in the AFC East,
where the Patriots finished in the last place. They were
four and thirteen if there was one team that I
would bet has no chance whatsoever of going from worse
to first, it'd be the Patriots. First of all, it
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seems like the Bills of the Dolphins have a hold
on that division. The Jets are obviously going to be better,
or at least I think they will with Aaron Rodgers.
The Patriots have nothing that scares me whatsoever. Young quarterback,
no big offensive weapons. Belichick gone, Brady's been gone. I
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can't see the Patriots going from worse to first. I
don't even see him going from worse to third. To
be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Bernie Well, first of all, two year point, this is
a thing. Nineteen of the last twenty one years in
the National Football League, we've had at least one team
go from worse to first. Wow, and their division. Let's
not forget Houston was the greatest example of that just
this last year. They were three to thirteen the previous
year and they win the AFC South. So this not
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only happens, it can often sometimes happen in a big way.
Let's not forget the nineteen ninety nine Saint Louis Rams
with Kurt Warner, they went from worse to first all
the way and won a Super Bowl and Tom Brady's
first Super Bowl in two thousand and one. New England
had gone from worse to first year before. So this
is a thing, and it happens pretty much every year.
I cannot see New England doing much. I like Jacobe Brissett,
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but he's usually good for about four weeks and then
they figure him out. You got a new situation with
the new coach and Jared Mayo, and you know they
did draft Drake may But I mean it would have
to it would be a miracle scenario. I mean, I
think you actually have a Brownie might have a better
chance of being Rookie of the Year than New England
going And that's that's saying a lot. So I do
not think it will be the Patriots, but there are
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some other teams to really keep an eye on, right well,
and I think could really do it. Go ahead, Arnie,
Well let's go.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Through the division. Let's get to the AFC North where
Cincinnati they're not a true last place team. They were
nine to eight, so they were puff five hundred. Now
you got Baltimore there. Everybody in love with Lamar Jackson.
I'm enlisted as one of my top five overheighted quarterbacks.
But that's beside the point. Cleveland's gonna be better and
we'll see what Pittsburgh does with Russell Willson the quarterback. Though.
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I think if you were really gonna go flyer on
a team, it would be Cincinnati. If Burrow states healthy,
I could see them maybe going from worse the first, Bernie.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I think Sinetta, Cincinnati is the most likely team to
potentially go from worse to first. You know, Cincinnati just
did the very same thing three years ago in twenty
twenty one. It's all a matter of whether or not
they can stay healthy and Joe Burrow can stay healthy.
The biggest speed bump is that the NF the AFC
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North is very crowded and it might even be more
brutal this season. Right, so they're in a very tough division.
But Cincinnati's done it once before, and as long as
you know, Joe Burrow stays healthy. I mean they were
nine and eight last year, yeah, and you know, and
they almost almost made the playoffs. They were alive mathematically
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and week seventeen, so you know, their defense was not
great last year. They were also injured on defense. But
I think Cincinnati has the best chance of doing.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It, by the way, since run that division. What are
you making a Pittsburgh this year? Is it gonna work
out with Russell Wilson? Yeah? Or are they gonna change quarterbacks?
How's it gonna play out for Pittsburgh this year?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I believe Russell Wilson will be fine. He threw twenty
six touchdown passes against State Intercephians last year. It was
a non starter between him and Sean McVay. I've had
Darren McKee on my show a few times from Denver.
He had this kind of his finger on the pulse
when they let Russ cook And now that's an overuse cliche.
He did pretty well. Mike Thoms a sharp guy. He's
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not going to ask a lot of his quarterback. He's
going to allow it's going to be a run first
offense with a much better defense. This is a guy
I get he's not what he used to be, and
I get he's a punchline in a laughing stock and
don't people take him serious. But he's only trying to
get back to a place he's been before. He's been
to two super Bowls, could have easily won them both.
You know what, happened, and he won one. He's more
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accurate than people give him credit for. I understand he's
having a really good camp. There's no chance Justin Fields
beats him out. And I don't get to Justin Field sing.
He's ten and twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I like him, but he's just not gonna win.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I like him, Yeah, but he's not a major league quarterback, right,
He's just simply it's all about recognition. His default mechanism
is to run. They even talk about him in camp.
He'll make a throw and oh my god, he'll make
a Hall of Fame throw. Then the next row will be, well,
wait a minute, he's late released the ball. He's late
to make the read. He's not accurate. His default mechanism
is to run. Look, he's ten and twenty eight as
(23:07):
a starter. Okay, okay, there are good some good reasons
for that. You could say, well, bad organization. Well, Mitch
Trubisky was twenty five and thirteen as a starter, made
the playoffs two or three years, completed sixty five percent
of his passes would have won a playoff game had
it not been for the double doing field goal. So
they thought he sucked too, and his staffed for much better.
So look, most of Justin fields highlight real plays are
(23:32):
with his legs. I'm sorry. I mean, if you want
to win a punt passing kick contest, Justin Fields is
probably your guy, unless, of course, you're going up against
thirteen year old Andrew Reid.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, football, then you got a problem. Let's go to
the AMC SOUD where Tennessee. They were six of eleven
last year, by far the worst team in the division. Now,
everybody loves the Texas. Maybe even as a long shot
to go to the Super Bowl, you could beat out
Jacksonville and Indianapolis. I don't think you could beat out
the Texans. Don't think the Titans can go from worse
the first maybe from worse to second, but that would
(24:03):
even be a stretch. To be honest with.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
You, Bernie, Well, there's no more Derrick Henry, there's no
more Mike Vrabel, Brian Callahan brand new coach, you got
a second year quarterback, and Will Levis. You can't really
make a case for Tennessee in my view.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And let's go ahead and go through the last team
or last division of the AFC, the AFC West, which
is the Chargers. Now obviously a big coaching change out there.
They've got the quarterback. The Chiefs, though the dominant team
in the division. I don't care what the moves the
Raiders have made with new coaches and stuff. I don't
think the Raiders could make a run in it, and
I don't think the Broncos can either. Maybe the Chargers,
(24:40):
if they could make a run at the Chiefs, could
go from Wars the first. It's a possibility, at least
I think it is there.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Bernie, it is a possibility. You certainly have Kansas City,
who I think is really the real deal. No NFL
team has ever three peeded in the Super Bowl era, right,
But I think the Chiefs are loaded for Barrett to
do that. But they could do that without winning their
division where you know, we're trying to see who can go.
So Harball brings in Greg Roman, they'll be a run
(25:06):
first team. I hear Harbaugh and Justin Herbert are getting
along famously. Harbaugh has a crush on him, and the
bottom line is, Ronie, he's not gonna ask Justin Herbert
to carry the load like he's had to in the past. Right,
So this is a different NFL now, and Harbaugh hasn't
coached in eleven years. You don't just line up a
run rough shot over people. It's become basketball on turf.
(25:30):
They're gonna have to get I would say, they're gonna
have to have an offense. They're gonna have to stay
healthy and have an offense that can show up and
do some things. I'm curious to see what lab McConkey
does out of Georgia. I think he's a really good addition.
But the biggest, you know, the biggest speed bumper are
the Chiefs. However, having said that, the Chargers actually have
(25:51):
a reasonable schedule if you look at it. Although I
always think the NFL is a gauntlet, there are no
easy teams, but you have the best case scenario. I
do think they can leap frog Denver, and they can
certainly leave frog the Raiders, and if they can beat
the Chiefs in Kansas City, they can win that division.
That's what it's gonna come down to.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
We're gonna get to the Chiefs in a little bit.
Matter of fact, we'll take a look at the AFC
or the excuse me, the edits. Yeah, when we get back,
but first let's see what's trending. Checking one more time
with our buddy, Kevin Wyatt, what's going on, kW.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Yeah, they've just gone final. In Los Angeles, the Diamondbacks,
they had a five to three league going with the
ninth thing, then added four more runs to really put
it away against the Dodgers, nine to three.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
To the final.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Christian Walker two home runs, three RBIs three run score
as he continues to torment Dodger pitching. Arizona takes two
out of this three game series. Everything else has gone
final in Major League Baseball, Rays finish off the Royals
ten to eight, the Rockies hold off the Brewers four
to three, and the Giants getting a go ahead home
(26:56):
run from Matt Chapman to get themselves a four to
two win against the Atlanta Braves. The Mariners snapping a
four game losing streak as they beat the Orioles seven
to three, holding off the Houston Astros, who continue to
be red hot. They beat the Blue Jays five to
three and are now just two games back of Seattle in.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The AL West.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
As for the Baltimore Orioles, they are now two games
up on the New York Yankees despite losing today, and
that's because the Yankees got swept by the Cincinnati Reds,
including a eight to four loss to Cincinnati Today on
the fourth of July. So it's a two game lead.
Baltimore over New York in that Al East Red Sox
and Marlins goes to extra innings. Boston wins at six
(27:34):
to five in twelve. Guardians over the White Sox eight four,
Twins pound the Tigers twelve three. This game ended early,
so was official in seven innings. Cubs in Phillies, Ian
Happ two home runs, two three run home runs, four
for four on the day as Chicago beats the best
team in baseball, the Philadelphia Phillies ten to two. Padres
get a home run from Jerks and Profar to help
(27:56):
beat the defending champion Texas Rangers three one. Athletic shout
out the Angels five nothing, and the Pirates and Cardinals
go to extra. Saint Louis wins it three to two
in ten innings, and the day started off in the
Nation's capital with the Washington Nationals blanking the New York Mets.
Won nothing back to you guys, all.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Right, thanks all Kevin of course, Bertie Fred Orney Span
You're in for the guys tonight. Jason Smith and his
best friend Mike Carmen right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Matter of fact, BERTI, when you were talking about all
the incompletions, I have a list I'll go through later
on of the quarterbacks with the most incompletions just because
they had a bad throw, not because they were under
pressure or anything like that, just because they made a
(28:38):
bad throw. So maybe I'll get to that list coming
up later on. But continuing on, can what team go
from worse to first? Why did you say it's happened
nineteen times nineteen in.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
The last twenty one years and the year that Mitch
Trubisky one of the years he got to the playoffs,
two teams did it?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I think it was Jacksonville and and the Bears. And
while we continue with this, there's one other thing we
might want to dive Intouah, there are four or five
significant NFL droughts that could legitimately in in twenty twenty four.
So after we finish the NFC North, we should touch
on that, arn't because there's some real storylines to watch,
(29:13):
and I'll tease that we'll talk about that definitely.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We'll get to that. Let's finish out. Let's go ahead
and go to the NFC where the Commanders were four
and ten. Now this is going to be tough. First
of all, the Cowboys won the division. A lot of
people think that if they don't win the division, they'll
least be in second. It's gonna be Philadelphia Dallas one two.
Not really afraid of the Giants, so Washington can probably
climb over them. But getting over Philadelphia Dallas that's a
(29:38):
tough chore, though, if you were going to take a
flyer on them. You're hearing a lot about what's going
on with the quarterback situation, where I don't know why
I'm hearing this so many times, but it's like all
over the place that Jaydon Daniels is the real deal,
but he can't do it himself and he's still going
to be a rookie quarterback. Not too crazy about Washington
(29:59):
going from one the first.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Well, he better be the real deal. And that might
not be enough because Washington not only got steam roll
last year, they weren't even competitive. They had the worst
point differential in the National Football League. They were minus
one eighty nine. That's like losing every game by eleven
twelve points, and they finished the game with it. They
finished the season with an eight game losing streak, and
(30:23):
you know, I mean they weren't competitive. They lost to
the Cowboys forty five to ten on Thanksgiving. You saw
the following week they lost by thirty to Miami. They're yeah,
they're not even in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, so you can forget about them. So I know,
like I said, they can probably climb over the Giants,
but I don't think it's gonna happen. Now, let's get
to the Bears. They get a big star quarterback out there.
They were seven and ten. The schedule is going to
be a last play schedule. Minnesota was also seven to ten.
The Packers don't scare me, even with Jordan Love being
(30:56):
the next thing, the next great thing since slic spread
the The Lions won the division at twelve and five?
Are they for real? The Bears might not be a
bad flyer to take form wors to first. I don't
think Minnesota, if you were going to count them as
the last place team can go form Worris to first.
What are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Well, I'm pretty well connected Detroit. I know you keep
hearing this. They got a target on their back and
they're saying, well, we got a few targets we're looking
at too. I don't think the Bears can leave Rob Detroit,
and I believe in Green Bay with Jordan Love. Green
Bay's got seven or eight first run draft choices on defense,
and they all came together. Let's talk about the Bears.
Their defense was outstanding last year. They ranked first against
(31:35):
the run. They only allowed eighty five yards per game.
They had twenty eight takeaways. That's good for fifth in
the National Football League. Chicago won four of his last
six games when it didn't matter. I got two words
for you, and they Ryan With Caleb Williams, he's already
got unreasonable expectations. I don't know how he's gonna do there.
I think the Bears, it's in theory, could maybe get
(31:58):
into the playoffs. It less than fifty to fifty, but
you don't know until you line up and you see
who stays healthy. I don't think they They've closed that
much ground with the Lions and the Packers, all right,
So it's gonna come down to Kleb Williams. Can they
live up to expectations. They do have a really good
receiving core. DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, you pick up Roma
doozy out of Washington.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
He's got her off for tremendous you would think so, Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You would think so. And they have a way above
average offensive line and they have a very good running game.
So on paper, wait a minute, now they're on the
short list, But there are a lot of real question marks,
aren't he And you just don't know, You don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And again though, I would probably say they're maybe the
second or third favorite to go from worse to first.
As you mentioned though, Cincinnati, he's got to be the
most likely. Let's get the Carolina over the NFC South.
I guess they'll go as far as Bryce Young does.
Does he turn it around? They were two and fifteen,
absolutely abysmal out there. They really had no great weapons
(32:57):
for him. Atlanta's going to be better that say it's
gonna be good Tampa Bay. I mean they were nine
and eight. That's what the division winner is is a
couple of nine and eight teams. Okay, Carolina put it
all together. Maybe go for Wor's the first.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
What are you thinking, Well, they were the last place
team again in that division. There's New Orleans is no
great shakes, and I think Atlanta's very underrated. I think
Atlanta's gonna win that division. But Carolina, they've only won
more than seven games once in the last nine years.
And I am a believer in Bryce Young. I would
not give up on him. I think he's gonna be okay.
(33:31):
They bring in a couple of new offensive linemen. Their
pass rushes is okay. They've got some decent running backs,
but they're overmatched. They're just simply overmatched. I don't see
them making the leap.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Right in the last division. The Arizona Cardinals, they finished
in the last they were four and thirteen. Everybody else
was over five hundred. Now, maybe you put it together
year you're better than Seattle. Don't think you're better than
the Rams. I know you're not better than San Francisco.
No way, Arizona goes from where's the first in this
great division?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Here? No way. We talked about a minute ago. Obviously,
the Chargers, their bugaboo's going to be getting past the Chiefs. Right,
it's that division is going to go through Kansas City,
where the NFC West is simply going to go through
San Francisco. And the gap and the talent disparity between
the Cardinals and the San Francisco. Forty nine ers is huge,
(34:24):
and I think Arizona is very much in a rebuilding year.
You might get a decent year out of Kylie Murray.
You might get a decent year out of Marvin Harrison junior.
But trust me, I saw this in Detroit. I covered
ten drafts. You don't build your team on the periphery
by drafting wide receivers. You build it from the inside out.
Arizona is They've had years of bad drafting, They've had
(34:45):
years of poor defensive drafting. That pass rush and that
defense couldn't stop a parade. They're in trouble. Arizona's got
no chance.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So there you go. Who we think could possibly go
from worse to first Jeord Bernie. Four drafts in the
NFL that may come to an end of season. We're
gonna get to that next right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
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Speaker 2 (35:18):
Now we're talking. Now, we're talking.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Finally, Leonard Skedder Skinner.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Got a love skin? Do you say finally? I have
to call all the shots around here stop just stop
pretty fraud hitting for the guys. Jason Smith and Mike
Carbon here on Fox Sports Radio. Thirty four droughts. Yeah,
that could come to an end of this year. I
didn't know this. What would the four drought speed?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So let's start with one Arnie that I think is
the lead story of the New York Jets. Yes, you
hope for healthy Aaron Rodgers, but believe it or not,
thirteen years Arnie without a single playoff appearance. Let's had
a fairly elite defense. Last year, they got the same
roster back. I think they've even improved a little bit.
Can Aaron Rodgers stay healthy too? They break that drought,
(36:07):
I think.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You have a big year. Is he going to overcome
that health problem, the injury that he had last year?
Does he have anything left in the tank is the question.
I'm not so sure he does have something left in
the tank.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
If they just get semi competent quarterback play on paper,
they're a playoff team, but you still got to do it.
I mean, it's basically a playoff curse thirteen years having
not made the playoffs. Now here's another one. All right,
this is a team they led Tom Brady twenty eight
to three at halftime in the Super Bowl. Six years,
also without a playoff appearance. Last time Atlanta was in
(36:41):
the postseason, you had Matt Ryan under center. You know
what happened, dan Quinn, all right, The bottom line is
six years the Falcons have talk big. You're bringing Kirk Cousin.
That's a big step up over Desmond Ritter and Marcus Mariota.
He's thirty five coming off an Achilles tear. Very able.
Division is nothing with Derek Carr Carolina. You know the
(37:04):
drill there, right. I think Tampa Bay and Baker Mayfield
would be the real deal. But you don't have to
win the division to make the playoffs. They can earn
a wild card spot. Your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I like it win also, I do like the fact
that they drafted the quarterback. But I do like Cousins.
I think he can help obviously, and that might not
be a bad one. That might not be a bad
one at all.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Bernie, here's another one. We talked about this earlier in
the show. The NFC East twenty years since the last
repeat division winner. So if the Cowboys and these boots
are made for walking, Dak Prescott can win the NFC
East this season, they'll become the first team in the
league repeat since so for when Philadelphia did it two decades.
(37:43):
Philly is going to be Dallas's toughest competition. I don't
think the Giants and the Commanders are a factor. So
the truth of the matter is, though you've got some
distractions there, Cede Lamb, he wants he wants a contract
on his last year. Mike McCarthy Barney Rubbles strolling around
the sideline like he can't find his car in the
parking lot.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Mall.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
The bottom line is this, you got three guys who
want to get paid. Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb and Mike
McCarthy's at a distraction or is that motivation?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
And Seedee Lamb might not be showing up. He may
hold out, right, he may not come to training camp.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I had not heard that, but maybe you're right.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, you know that's what they're saying. I mean, that's
the rumor out there. Who knows if it's true, but
that's the rumor going on.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
All right, let's talk about your Dolphins. Twenty three years
since their last playoff win win, They've been to the playoffs, right,
They've had five playoff appearances since two thousand and they
got bounced in the wildcard round every year. I like
this Miami team. They have an expulsive offense. They should
get to the playoffs. They finished second of scoring last
(38:45):
year to a leather league, and passing yards Tyreek and
receiving yards they put up seventy against Stanver. The question
is can they win a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
They got a lot of injuries last year towards the
end of last year. Yes, they did, and that's what
cost the division and that first playoff lost.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I got one more for you, bones one Arnie Sure,
my beloved Detroit Lions, part of the pre and post
broadcast team from ninety eight to eight. I rooted for him.
They've never made a Super Bowl appearance. They're one of
four NFL franchises that have never been to the Super Bowl.
They blew the seventeen point lead against the Niners last year. Okay,
can the Lions break that drought? They've never been to
(39:23):
the Super Bowl. Can they get to the Super Bowl
this year?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I'm not buying it to their greatest I love their offense.
I know they've got some great offensive weapons out there
and certainly could rush the passer. That division isn't all
that tough, is it. It's not the green.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Bay is going to be good. I think Chicago's gonna
have a base.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Doesn't scare me. Green Bay does not say it.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
They look pretty good, Arnie. They got it. I could
tell you what they got it together. They got seven
first round draftdresses on defense, and they really came of age.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
So you're buying Jordan Love, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
I am mind. Jordan Love, yeah, I am.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Well because they waited so long. I thought they waited
so long because he was to average out there. And
I know we had a good year last year, but
it wasn't tremendous or anything to write home about. It
was anything like, I can't put this guy in the
Hall of fame.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
When they strolled into Dallas, though, and beat him like
a renting, they rode him like a stick horse. I mean,
I don't think that was a fluke.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Like a stick horse. I liked that with Verdie. I
like that. All right, three hours are in the books.
I mean, the bonus hour is coming up next. Everything
we've not been able to get to we'll get to
it the bonus hour. We still have some more NFL
stuff to get to I told you about the quarterback
that throw the most incompletions because they throw bad passes.
(40:39):
I want to get to that. I want to get
to the Kansas City Chiefs. We got the Olympics. Just
all kinds of stuff next year on Fox Sports Radio
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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tire buying should be. Hope you had a good fourth
of July, Bernie, Hope you had a child out on
some dogs. I went to Hamburger route because my wife
always yelling at me about what I eat. Don't get
that it's got sunflower oil or sunoil or some type
of oil or something bad. I'm not allowed to eat, Bernie,
(00:49):
is what it comes down to anymore. I'm not allowed to.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We gotta fix that. Yeah, I crushed some dogs. Three burger,
A little cheesecake, actually a lot of cheesecake.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh that's my favorite, Berdie.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That's my weakness. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I asked my wife to get dessert, and usually we
just put down a whole cheesecake this whole week that
we got from Costco, and she decided to get watermelon.
I'm like, come on, come on, very but that's not
a pre show dessert. Gotta have something like an oversized
chocolate chip cookie or a piece of cheesecake or or
(01:23):
something like that. You you can't go with the water.
Last time you did that, you threw up during this
I threw up, Yeah, show a whole entire segment.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
He went mute and was literally cough like throwing up
so bad.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Up, let's play some of that sound.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Chris was asking me questions, and he said he couldn't
understand why it was only giving him one of two
word answers. And then these guys back in the studio like,
are these kind of quiet today? That's because I would
say two words and then I would turn down my mind.
I would turn off my mic and get sick in
the bucket. What happened was it was my birthday and
I had like two or three pieces of it. It
(02:03):
was not your birthday piece, so I was my wife's.
Was my wife's birthday? Yeah, it was yours birthday, my
wife's birthday. So I had two or three pieces of cake.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Who made the cake?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We bought? It was bought.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I was gonna say, thank god that would have been.
That wouldn't have been a good testimony for your wife's cooking.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
If and then and then I had a lot of
Eminem's like a jar.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Playing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They were the peanut and Eminem's heart. My wife made
some chicken and I told her the chicken made me sick.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh, so the wife made the chicken that made you sick,
and the cake and the m and ms paid the price.
And it turned out to be Radio Gold and Mary
Max working overtime, so people can hear you yack on
the air. Yes, I pretty much summed that up.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, so I had to turn down my microphone. I
was really sick. I was pretty much sick like the
entire show. I was just cutting it through there. But yeah,
it wasn't it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The best time it was.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It was tough. That was tought of a lot of
sweets that day.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And you're now complaining about watermelon.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I like, we don't want you thrown up on air. Dog,
I'm not allowed to eat until twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Now, just that is a lie. Don't lie like that
to the national radio. I don't lie like that, all right, Bertie.
I want a couple of things. I want to get through.
Say this is the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You have a list of the famous people that were
born on the fourth of July, right, famous people born.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
There's a lot of famous people born on the fourth
of July. Of course, we talked about morgana right show. Right,
born on July fourth, nineteen. I think it's forty seven.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Right, that would make her about what seventy seventy seven
years old?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Wow, Now, I don't think I've ever talked to you
about this. Are you were you a Raiders fan? No?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
No, I'm a Dolphin fan. That's okay.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So you know Al Davis, of course, the great Al
Davis born on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Really, that's funny because Steve Hartman, I believe is born
on the fourth of July. He worked.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, David, that's right, Steve Hartman, are Fox.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That should have been the first one you brought up, Bertie,
Shame on you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I got a few I got a few holes in
my game. Plus I had some bad chicken and cake
earlier in the night. That Tom Cruise was not born
on the fourth of July. Of course he did the
movie Born on the fourth of July. But if you
want to get a little current post Malone Borth on
the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh, I like him.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, Will Smith the football player.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But anyway, oh Tom, Will Smith and Will Smith.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
To the best of my knowledge, No, maybe someone can
correct me. I don't. I don't think so. Uh, you know,
as far as you know him. But actually the list
is actually a lot longer than than you really think.
Uh the famous play, right Neil Simon. Oh yeah, I
think one of Barack Obama's daughters is born on the fourth,
(04:50):
like Calvin Coolidge, one of our our US presidents born
Bill Withers, who had the great song just the two
of Us, right, right, right, I've heard of him, right,
He had a lot of He had a lot of
really good songs, Bill Bill Withers did. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So you know that comminent seems like the birthdays on
the fourth of July.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Oh yeah, there there are There are a lot of entertainers.
I mean there are a lot of uh you know,
I think luminaries and politics, all kinds of people. So yeah,
I mean I might have oversold it, but the fourth
of July is one of those birthdays. It's distinctive and
and there's there's a lot of people, uh that you
might not stop to think of that that were actually
born on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You know, I was gonna tell you this, My buddy
has the worst birthday, uh, that you can have now
if you think think about it. No, No, that's that'd
be the second worst edd Halloween. No, Birdie was close though.
I said, why would Halloween be a bad day to
have your brown No got answers that New Years New
(05:50):
Year's No, not New Year's either. No, not December twenty sixth,
the day after Christmas.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
That's good Dan Canada. Was he born in Canada?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No, he wasn't. But everybody's all bummed out because the
holidays are over. Christmas is over, people are getting back
to work, and everybody forgets about December twenty sixth. It's
it's like the forgotten day. It's the worst day to
have a birthday.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I think Jlack Friday. You know where is that I
have a breath?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, you know a couple other people, since we are talking.
George Steinbrenner, the former Yankee owner, was also born on
the fourth of July. Heraldo Rivera is still knocking around.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Though what the University of Arizona.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That was probably back in the thirties, right, he's like
eighty five years old now, isn't he.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Uh yeah he is.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
He's still knocking around. I mean he's still out there.
But you know, obviously people know who Horolo.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Is of course, of course.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
By the way, uh, nature boy tweets in he said
post Malone, not Carl Malone.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's what I said, post Malone. Yeah, yeah, I said,
I said, let's take it currently.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Because I said, I like that guy. And oh I
see Nature boys making fun of me like I wouldn't
like pauh.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I got it. Okay, guy, he's taking a shot out here, and.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
He taking a shot, so yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You want to go deep in the cookie jar? There
was a famous actress, now, okay, I went to Gina
a little bridget.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I know, yeah, a lot of time ago.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, she was born, she was born.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
That was before my time though, Bernie a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Way yeah, before my time as well, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, wow, good nice. I like that list, all right,
Bertie Fratto lay spat, you're in for the guys. Jason
Smith and is best friend Mike Carmon. I want to
get to some NFL actually a lot of NFL going on.
I don't know when to start off with Dak because
earlier today, all of a sudden, out of the blue,
all of a sudden, I see the reports coming out
(07:43):
Dak is in a walking boot. Dak is in the
walking boot. I'm like, okay, let's let's slow down. What's
going on? And then there was a picture of Dak
in a walking boot. Then Pro Football Talk comes out
and I think I sent you this article saying, Dak
Prescott no logger in a walking boot. I don't know
(08:04):
what's going on, But is it like he just put
on that walking boot for the day for some fashion statement.
Here is something going on with Dak Prescott that we
don't know. Is this a not a big deal? Berdie?
What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know? Well, I don't know. It's okay, so let's
have a little fun with this. Yeah, people are looking
for the smoking gun. Do you remember years ago when
Jeff Kent was playing for the New York or the
San Francisco Giants and he claimed he broke his wrists
while washing his car, and then they found out he
might have been riding motorcycles off road during the off season,
(08:37):
which he denied it. And we'll never really know what happened.
So people are kind of looking for that that smoking gun.
And here's I'm coming to a point here with Dak
Prescott because I get the biggest kick out of him.
I've never heard anybody who's met him or been around
him say anything bad about him. And if you like
your quarterbacks to light it up in the regular season
and then look like a drunk crossing an icy street
(08:59):
in the post, he Dak is your guy. If you
want to see a stat stuffer, Dak is your guy.
He's never gonna win a damn thing. Okay, I've gotten
convinced of that. Save that, Kevin, save that or Patrick?
Excuse me say that? Patrick can Mary. I'll live with
it if he wins the super Bowl? Okay? All right?
So where am I going with this? Every time you
think you've seen it all, you see something new. Now
(09:21):
I'm gonna draw a Mike Tyson reference into this. I
remember years ago there was a comedian did a great
Remember when Tyson got in all that trouble? Well, you know, people,
did you think I quest my BMW into a tweet
and I get about Mick blood BLI meet a fight
with Mick blood Green in the middle of the night.
And it's all part of my twining, part of.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I'll give you that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yes, it's my first time ever trying, and I keep Jackson.
Now I want to content, Jim Lanthley, you give me
a all right, I got off track. So people have
noticed that on social media Dak Prescott's walking in a
walking boot. That's Department of redundacy department on his right
ankle in Cobbo, San Lucas. So people started asking questions,
(10:01):
So what does Dak Prescott say? Well, you remember, Arnie.
Four years ago, Dak Prescott broke his ankle. He fractured
his ankle, or broke his ankle. He had a pretty
bad compound fracture against the New York Giants, mister final
eleven games of the season. He claims that that same
ankle in the offseason every year he likes to wear
a boot on vacation because Coles. The last time I
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went de Sa fishing, Michael slowed up. But other than that,
I'm great. Wow, why don't we see That's why I
did the Mike Tyson thing. Okay, what are you doing, Dak?
Are you peed on your shoes and telling us raining
what really happened down there. Now, maybe nothing happened, but
this is all part of the circus ass And then
he took.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It off if he was feeling some heat for some reason.
He took it off a couple of hours later.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know which. And this is this all adds to
the lunacy because he said he likes to wear the
walking boot while he's vacationing because it's the same ankle,
same issues from four years ago. Un Quote Allegedly, he
told Barns Hill of the Fort Worth Star Telegram that
that's merely part of my regular maintenance I've been doing
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for the last four years since I injured my right
ankle back in twenty twenty. The watchd you take it off?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah? Exactly. I'm not buying that in a for a second, Bernie.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So there you have it. More drama in Dallas. Gee,
who knew?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Do you think he's hurt though? Do you think it's see?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You just don't know, you know, maybe he you know,
maybe he went out disco dancing and rolled over on it.
I don't know who. You don't know, and we're not
gonna know. And he gave a lad answer that I
don't buy and I don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
You buy it either, that he does it every year.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, that it's all part of his maintenance in the
off season. Yeah, because the ankle he injured back in
twenty two. I want to say it was twenty twenty.
I just don't remember, but he heard it. He did
hurt it pretty bad, missed the last three months of
the season.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You remember, you know, we were talking about this last
suddenly when I were doing the show with Plank, Who
would you rather have? Would you rather have Dak Prescott
or tu? And I was making the case big time
for two especi of his two was putting up big numbers,
and now the two has kind of you know, went
healthy last year. I don't know why they're not giving
him the big money, but I'd rather have tour right now.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I think I would too at this stage in his career.
And just just to bring back some old memories, you
have to remember four years ago when Dak went down,
that opened the door for the great Ben Denucci. Yes, exactly,
not to be confused with Don Finucci or the Godfather
the black Hand. Probably would have been better off with him.
Who would you rather have? Don Ferucci or Dak Prescott?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, if he doesn't get it done, people are gonna
say enough is enough with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
You know if my god, you're the eternal Optimists, and
you actually, first of all, as you know that division
hasn't had a repeat winner in like nineteen years. Well,
Dallas won it last year. I don't expect him to.
I think Philadelphia's coming and I you know, I think
Dallas is in trouble this year. I think it finally
catches up with him. And I'm not saying they're not
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going to make the playoffs or anything, but they're in
big trouble.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You can get a hold of us on Twitter at
Bernie Fratto. I'm at Stinking Genius One. We're getting a
lot of them, so go ahead and reach us that
way at Bernie Fratto, at Stinking Genius one. Bernie hard
Knocks started Tuesday. It's just not the same anymore. I
know there was one comment where they were saying, you
think they were pumping up Daniel Jones. You think we
want our forty million dollar quarterback handing off to a
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twelve million dollar running back. I'm not buying it a
Daniel Jones. I think it's going to be another horrible
season for the Giants this year.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Let me start with Hard Knocks. Is that also jumped
the shark?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Absolutely one hot?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I mean Hard Knocks. The Hard Knocks. Hard Knocks was
really good and you don't even chow players being cut anymore.
Then you did this goofy in season Hard Knocks, right,
and now you got this off season Hard Knocks off
season with the New York Giants. They had the premiere
episode the other night. It's become like Law and Order.
(14:01):
There's too many of them, right, you had Law and Order, SUV,
Law and Order, Sex Crimes, law and Order, Parking Ticket's Division.
It's stupid. They got too many of them. Now you
got this Hard Knocks off season and they think they're
like bringing you behind the curtain. And you know what
do you think they're gonna say in that meeting? Oh man,
we gave Daniel Jones forty Maine. Boy, did we screw
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that up? No, they're gonna say this is his year.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I can feel it. I can feel it here it comes.
I don't think I'll be watching Hard Knocks anymore. I
watched it the real one, right, but not that not
this offseason.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
No, I saw that it was on Tuesday, and I'm like,
I'm sure we'll just get the Cliff knows if they
say anything worthwhile. Back in the day, when it first
came out, it was I'm like, oh, I gotta have this.
Leave me alone. I'm not going out to dinner. I'm
watching Hard Knocks.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It was.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It was a big TV show.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Maybe it's like kind of American idolist, remember when American
idol used to be so popular.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Or you don't have Simon coll anymore either. Maybe they
could put Simon collin hard Knocks. That would you know?
But but Harnie, listen, nobody. There was a real, raw, tangible,
visceral feel to Hard Knocks back in the day. They
they'd bring in a player and then cut them. No
one wants to see anybody to lose their job, and
a lot of these guys end up landing elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But there was that.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
One player that defensive back. He says, well, some we're
moving on. You had a good camp. I think you're
gonna land somewhere, but we're gonna We're gonna let you go.
I gotta call my grandma. Who was that guy? Do
you remember that he's not gonna call my grandma. Well
it was raw motion, and so there's some of that.
And I think when you have you know, it's the
Bears this year, right, is it the Bears the Giants?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And the Giants are gonna be the hard knocks teven
this year?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, no, no, I'm talking about the real hard knocks
when you start in in July and August, the preseason.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I don't know. I think the Bears might be uh yeah,
I think they'd have a good year there too. Also
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I'm not sold on them. I think that's uh. I
think that's a that's gonna be a tough putt. But
that's a that's a conversation for a different day. You know, Look,
it's gonna it's gonna be the Bears. Its premiere premiers
talk at six, So you're gonna get to see Kayleb Williams. Right,
You're gonna get to see there's expect there's real expectations there,
(16:18):
you know. And I remember god years ago when they
had to Houston, Texans. Bill O'Brien, if he had a
nickel for every F bomb he dropped, he'd be you know,
Elon Musk could be mowing his lawn and so you
see these guys and sometimes they're pandering for the camera.
That's another thing that I think that we've all kind
of grown tired of. It was twenty years in but
as far as Tuesday Night they met well. But it's
(16:38):
a miss for me. On this offseason Hard.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Knocks, He's Bernie Fredromarty Span You're Bernie. Something I like
to talk about as we get ready for every football season,
especially or about a week away from the started training camps,
teams that can go from worse the first. I'll explain
all that coming up next right here on Fox Sports
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Speaker 2 (17:37):
All right, good, you think everybody? Bernie Fredo, Arnie Spanier
here on Fox Sports or Radio, sitting in for the
guys tonight, Chas and Smith at his best friend Mike
Harmon right here at the tirech dot Com studios. Bernie
on an average of pretty much once a year for
like over like the last twenty years. Sometimes there's not
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one in a year, and sometimes there's two in one year,
but for the most part, in an average of one
a year, a team goes from worse to first in
the NFL, which is why I love the NFL. I mean,
talk about being so unpredictable. You can draft the right
guy or sign the right free agent, and you can
go from worse to first. I thought we'd see which
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teams do you think have a possibility Not so much
that it's going to happen, but just the possibility of
going from worse to first. Let's start in the AFC East,
where the Patriots finished in the last place. They were
four and thirteen if there was one team that I
would bet has no chance whatsoever of going from worse
to first, it'd be the Patriots. First of all, it
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seems like the Bills of the Dolphins have a hold
on that division. The Jets are obviously going to be better,
or at least I think they will with Aaron Rodgers.
The Patriots have nothing that scares me whatsoever. Young quarterback,
no big offensive weapons. Belichick gone, Brady's been gone. I
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can't see the Patriots going from worse to first. I
don't even see him going from worse to third. To
be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Bernie Well, first of all, two year point, this is
a thing. Nineteen of the last twenty one years in
the National Football League, we've had at least one team
go from worse to first. Wow, and their division. Let's
not forget Houston was the greatest example of that just
this last year. They were three to thirteen the previous
year and they win the AFC South. So this not
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only happens, it can often sometimes happen in a big way.
Let's not forget the nineteen ninety nine Saint Louis Rams
with Kurt Warner, they went from worse to first all
the way and won a Super Bowl and Tom Brady's
first Super Bowl in two thousand and one. New England
had gone from worse to first year before. So this
is a thing, and it happens pretty much every year.
I cannot see New England doing much. I like Jacobe Brissett,
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but he's usually good for about four weeks and then
they figure him out. You got a new situation with
the new coach and Jared Mayo, and you know they
did draft Drake may But I mean it would have
to it would be a miracle scenario. I mean, I
think you actually have a Brownie might have a better
chance of being Rookie of the Year than New England
going And that's that's saying a lot. So I do
not think it will be the Patriots, but there are
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some other teams to really keep an eye on, right well,
and I think could really do it. Go ahead, Arnie,
Well let's go.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Through the division. Let's get to the AFC North where
Cincinnati they're not a true last place team. They were
nine to eight, so they were puff five hundred. Now
you got Baltimore there. Everybody in love with Lamar Jackson.
I'm enlisted as one of my top five overheighted quarterbacks.
But that's beside the point. Cleveland's gonna be better and
we'll see what Pittsburgh does with Russell Willson the quarterback. Though.
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I think if you were really gonna go flyer on
a team, it would be Cincinnati. If Burrow states healthy,
I could see them maybe going from worse the first, Bernie.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I think Sinetta, Cincinnati is the most likely team to
potentially go from worse to first. You know, Cincinnati just
did the very same thing three years ago in twenty
twenty one. It's all a matter of whether or not
they can stay healthy and Joe Burrow can stay healthy.
The biggest speed bump is that the NF the AFC
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North is very crowded and it might even be more
brutal this season. Right, so they're in a very tough division.
But Cincinnati's done it once before, and as long as
you know, Joe Burrow stays healthy. I mean they were
nine and eight last year, yeah, and you know, and
they almost almost made the playoffs. They were alive mathematically
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and week seventeen, so you know, their defense was not
great last year. They were also injured on defense. But
I think Cincinnati has the best chance of doing.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It, by the way, since run that division. What are
you making a Pittsburgh this year? Is it gonna work
out with Russell Wilson? Yeah? Or are they gonna change quarterbacks?
How's it gonna play out for Pittsburgh this year?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I believe Russell Wilson will be fine. He threw twenty
six touchdown passes against State Intercephians last year. It was
a non starter between him and Sean McVay. I've had
Darren McKee on my show a few times from Denver.
He had this kind of his finger on the pulse
when they let Russ cook And now that's an overuse cliche.
He did pretty well. Mike Thoms a sharp guy. He's
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not going to ask a lot of his quarterback. He's
going to allow it's going to be a run first
offense with a much better defense. This is a guy
I get he's not what he used to be, and
I get he's a punchline in a laughing stock and
don't people take him serious. But he's only trying to
get back to a place he's been before. He's been
to two super Bowls, could have easily won them both.
You know what, happened, and he won one. He's more
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accurate than people give him credit for. I understand he's
having a really good camp. There's no chance Justin Fields
beats him out. And I don't get to Justin Field sing.
He's ten and twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I like him, but he's just not gonna win.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I like him, Yeah, but he's not a major league quarterback, right,
He's just simply it's all about recognition. His default mechanism
is to run. They even talk about him in camp.
He'll make a throw and oh my god, he'll make
a Hall of Fame throw. Then the next row will be, well,
wait a minute, he's late released the ball. He's late
to make the read. He's not accurate. His default mechanism
is to run. Look, he's ten and twenty eight as
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a starter. Okay, okay, there are good some good reasons
for that. You could say, well, bad organization. Well, Mitch
Trubisky was twenty five and thirteen as a starter, made
the playoffs two or three years, completed sixty five percent
of his passes would have won a playoff game had
it not been for the double doing field goal. So
they thought he sucked too, and his staffed for much better.
So look, most of Justin fields highlight real plays are
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with his legs. I'm sorry. I mean, if you want
to win a punt passing kick contest, Justin Fields is
probably your guy, unless, of course, you're going up against
thirteen year old Andrew Reid.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, football, then you got a problem. Let's go to
the AMC SOUD where Tennessee. They were six of eleven
last year, by far the worst team in the division. Now,
everybody loves the Texas. Maybe even as a long shot
to go to the Super Bowl, you could beat out
Jacksonville and Indianapolis. I don't think you could beat out
the Texans. Don't think the Titans can go from worse
the first maybe from worse to second, but that would
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even be a stretch. To be honest with.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
You, Bernie, Well, there's no more Derrick Henry, there's no
more Mike Vrabel, Brian Callahan brand new coach, you got
a second year quarterback, and Will Levis. You can't really
make a case for Tennessee in my view.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And let's go ahead and go through the last team
or last division of the AFC, the AFC West, which
is the Chargers. Now obviously a big coaching change out there.
They've got the quarterback. The Chiefs, though the dominant team
in the division. I don't care what the moves the
Raiders have made with new coaches and stuff. I don't
think the Raiders could make a run in it, and
I don't think the Broncos can either. Maybe the Chargers,
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if they could make a run at the Chiefs, could
go from Wars the first. It's a possibility, at least
I think it is there.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Bernie, it is a possibility. You certainly have Kansas City,
who I think is really the real deal. No NFL
team has ever three peeded in the Super Bowl era, right,
But I think the Chiefs are loaded for Barrett to
do that. But they could do that without winning their
division where you know, we're trying to see who can go.
So Harball brings in Greg Roman, they'll be a run
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first team. I hear Harbaugh and Justin Herbert are getting
along famously. Harbaugh has a crush on him, and the
bottom line is, Ronie, he's not gonna ask Justin Herbert
to carry the load like he's had to in the past. Right,
So this is a different NFL now, and Harbaugh hasn't
coached in eleven years. You don't just line up a
run rough shot over people. It's become basketball on turf.
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They're gonna have to get I would say, they're gonna
have to have an offense. They're gonna have to stay
healthy and have an offense that can show up and
do some things. I'm curious to see what lab McConkey
does out of Georgia. I think he's a really good addition.
But the biggest, you know, the biggest speed bumper are
the Chiefs. However, having said that, the Chargers actually have
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a reasonable schedule if you look at it. Although I
always think the NFL is a gauntlet, there are no
easy teams, but you have the best case scenario. I
do think they can leap frog Denver, and they can
certainly leave frog the Raiders, and if they can beat
the Chiefs in Kansas City, they can win that division.
That's what it's gonna come down to.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
We're gonna get to the Chiefs in a little bit.
Matter of fact, we'll take a look at the AFC
or the excuse me, the edits. Yeah, when we get back,
but first let's see what's trending. Checking one more time
with our buddy, Kevin Wyatt, what's going on, kW.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Yeah, they've just gone final. In Los Angeles, the Diamondbacks,
they had a five to three league going with the
ninth thing, then added four more runs to really put
it away against the Dodgers, nine to three.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
To the final.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Christian Walker two home runs, three RBIs three run score
as he continues to torment Dodger pitching. Arizona takes two
out of this three game series. Everything else has gone
final in Major League Baseball, Rays finish off the Royals
ten to eight, the Rockies hold off the Brewers four
to three, and the Giants getting a go ahead home
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run from Matt Chapman to get themselves a four to
two win against the Atlanta Braves. The Mariners snapping a
four game losing streak as they beat the Orioles seven
to three, holding off the Houston Astros, who continue to
be red hot. They beat the Blue Jays five to
three and are now just two games back of Seattle in.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The AL West.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
As for the Baltimore Orioles, they are now two games
up on the New York Yankees despite losing today, and
that's because the Yankees got swept by the Cincinnati Reds,
including a eight to four loss to Cincinnati Today on
the fourth of July. So it's a two game lead.
Baltimore over New York in that Al East Red Sox
and Marlins goes to extra innings. Boston wins at six
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to five in twelve. Guardians over the White Sox eight four,
Twins pound the Tigers twelve three. This game ended early,
so was official in seven innings. Cubs in Phillies, Ian
Happ two home runs, two three run home runs, four
for four on the day as Chicago beats the best
team in baseball, the Philadelphia Phillies ten to two. Padres
get a home run from Jerks and Profar to help
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beat the defending champion Texas Rangers three one. Athletic shout
out the Angels five nothing, and the Pirates and Cardinals
go to extra. Saint Louis wins it three to two
in ten innings, and the day started off in the
Nation's capital with the Washington Nationals blanking the New York Mets.
Won nothing back to you guys, all.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Right, thanks all Kevin of course, Bertie Fred Orney Span
You're in for the guys tonight. Jason Smith and his
best friend Mike Carmen right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Matter of fact, BERTI, when you were talking about all
the incompletions, I have a list I'll go through later
on of the quarterbacks with the most incompletions just because
they had a bad throw, not because they were under
pressure or anything like that, just because they made a
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bad throw. So maybe I'll get to that list coming
up later on. But continuing on, can what team go
from worse to first? Why did you say it's happened
nineteen times nineteen in.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
The last twenty one years and the year that Mitch
Trubisky one of the years he got to the playoffs,
two teams did it?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I think it was Jacksonville and and the Bears. And
while we continue with this, there's one other thing we
might want to dive Intouah, there are four or five
significant NFL droughts that could legitimately in in twenty twenty four.
So after we finish the NFC North, we should touch
on that, arn't because there's some real storylines to watch,
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and I'll tease that we'll talk about that definitely.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We'll get to that. Let's finish out. Let's go ahead
and go to the NFC where the Commanders were four
and ten. Now this is going to be tough. First
of all, the Cowboys won the division. A lot of
people think that if they don't win the division, they'll
least be in second. It's gonna be Philadelphia Dallas one two.
Not really afraid of the Giants, so Washington can probably
climb over them. But getting over Philadelphia Dallas that's a
(29:38):
tough chore, though, if you were going to take a
flyer on them. You're hearing a lot about what's going
on with the quarterback situation, where I don't know why
I'm hearing this so many times, but it's like all
over the place that Jaydon Daniels is the real deal,
but he can't do it himself and he's still going
to be a rookie quarterback. Not too crazy about Washington
(29:59):
going from one the first.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Well, he better be the real deal. And that might
not be enough because Washington not only got steam roll
last year, they weren't even competitive. They had the worst
point differential in the National Football League. They were minus
one eighty nine. That's like losing every game by eleven
twelve points, and they finished the game with it. They
finished the season with an eight game losing streak, and
(30:23):
you know, I mean they weren't competitive. They lost to
the Cowboys forty five to ten on Thanksgiving. You saw
the following week they lost by thirty to Miami. They're yeah,
they're not even in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, so you can forget about them. So I know,
like I said, they can probably climb over the Giants,
but I don't think it's gonna happen. Now, let's get
to the Bears. They get a big star quarterback out there.
They were seven and ten. The schedule is going to
be a last play schedule. Minnesota was also seven to ten.
The Packers don't scare me, even with Jordan Love being
(30:56):
the next thing, the next great thing since slic spread
the The Lions won the division at twelve and five?
Are they for real? The Bears might not be a
bad flyer to take form wors to first. I don't
think Minnesota, if you were going to count them as
the last place team can go form Worris to first.
What are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Well, I'm pretty well connected Detroit. I know you keep
hearing this. They got a target on their back and
they're saying, well, we got a few targets we're looking
at too. I don't think the Bears can leave Rob Detroit,
and I believe in Green Bay with Jordan Love. Green
Bay's got seven or eight first run draft choices on defense,
and they all came together. Let's talk about the Bears.
Their defense was outstanding last year. They ranked first against
(31:35):
the run. They only allowed eighty five yards per game.
They had twenty eight takeaways. That's good for fifth in
the National Football League. Chicago won four of his last
six games when it didn't matter. I got two words
for you, and they Ryan With Caleb Williams, he's already
got unreasonable expectations. I don't know how he's gonna do there.
I think the Bears, it's in theory, could maybe get
(31:58):
into the playoffs. It less than fifty to fifty, but
you don't know until you line up and you see
who stays healthy. I don't think they They've closed that
much ground with the Lions and the Packers, all right,
So it's gonna come down to Kleb Williams. Can they
live up to expectations. They do have a really good
receiving core. DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, you pick up Roma
doozy out of Washington.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
He's got her off for tremendous you would think so, Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You would think so. And they have a way above
average offensive line and they have a very good running game.
So on paper, wait a minute, now they're on the
short list, But there are a lot of real question marks,
aren't he And you just don't know, You don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And again though, I would probably say they're maybe the
second or third favorite to go from worse to first.
As you mentioned though, Cincinnati, he's got to be the
most likely. Let's get the Carolina over the NFC South.
I guess they'll go as far as Bryce Young does.
Does he turn it around? They were two and fifteen,
absolutely abysmal out there. They really had no great weapons
(32:57):
for him. Atlanta's going to be better that say it's
gonna be good Tampa Bay. I mean they were nine
and eight. That's what the division winner is is a
couple of nine and eight teams. Okay, Carolina put it
all together. Maybe go for Wor's the first.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
What are you thinking, Well, they were the last place
team again in that division. There's New Orleans is no
great shakes, and I think Atlanta's very underrated. I think
Atlanta's gonna win that division. But Carolina, they've only won
more than seven games once in the last nine years.
And I am a believer in Bryce Young. I would
not give up on him. I think he's gonna be okay.
(33:31):
They bring in a couple of new offensive linemen. Their
pass rushes is okay. They've got some decent running backs,
but they're overmatched. They're just simply overmatched. I don't see
them making the leap.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Right in the last division. The Arizona Cardinals, they finished
in the last they were four and thirteen. Everybody else
was over five hundred. Now, maybe you put it together
year you're better than Seattle. Don't think you're better than
the Rams. I know you're not better than San Francisco.
No way, Arizona goes from where's the first in this
great division?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Here? No way. We talked about a minute ago. Obviously,
the Chargers, their bugaboo's going to be getting past the Chiefs. Right,
it's that division is going to go through Kansas City,
where the NFC West is simply going to go through
San Francisco. And the gap and the talent disparity between
the Cardinals and the San Francisco. Forty nine ers is huge,
(34:24):
and I think Arizona is very much in a rebuilding year.
You might get a decent year out of Kylie Murray.
You might get a decent year out of Marvin Harrison junior.
But trust me, I saw this in Detroit. I covered
ten drafts. You don't build your team on the periphery
by drafting wide receivers. You build it from the inside out.
Arizona is They've had years of bad drafting, They've had
(34:45):
years of poor defensive drafting. That pass rush and that
defense couldn't stop a parade. They're in trouble. Arizona's got
no chance.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So there you go. Who we think could possibly go
from worse to first Jeord Bernie. Four drafts in the
NFL that may come to an end of season. We're
gonna get to that next right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
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Speaker 2 (35:18):
Now we're talking. Now, we're talking.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Finally, Leonard Skedder Skinner.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Got a love skin? Do you say finally? I have
to call all the shots around here stop just stop
pretty fraud hitting for the guys. Jason Smith and Mike
Carbon here on Fox Sports Radio. Thirty four droughts. Yeah,
that could come to an end of this year. I
didn't know this. What would the four drought speed?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So let's start with one Arnie that I think is
the lead story of the New York Jets. Yes, you
hope for healthy Aaron Rodgers, but believe it or not,
thirteen years Arnie without a single playoff appearance. Let's had
a fairly elite defense. Last year, they got the same
roster back. I think they've even improved a little bit.
Can Aaron Rodgers stay healthy too? They break that drought,
(36:07):
I think.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You have a big year. Is he going to overcome
that health problem, the injury that he had last year?
Does he have anything left in the tank is the question.
I'm not so sure he does have something left in
the tank.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
If they just get semi competent quarterback play on paper,
they're a playoff team, but you still got to do it.
I mean, it's basically a playoff curse thirteen years having
not made the playoffs. Now here's another one. All right,
this is a team they led Tom Brady twenty eight
to three at halftime in the Super Bowl. Six years,
also without a playoff appearance. Last time Atlanta was in
(36:41):
the postseason, you had Matt Ryan under center. You know
what happened, dan Quinn, all right, The bottom line is
six years the Falcons have talk big. You're bringing Kirk Cousin.
That's a big step up over Desmond Ritter and Marcus Mariota.
He's thirty five coming off an Achilles tear. Very able.
Division is nothing with Derek Carr Carolina. You know the
(37:04):
drill there, right. I think Tampa Bay and Baker Mayfield
would be the real deal. But you don't have to
win the division to make the playoffs. They can earn
a wild card spot. Your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I like it win also, I do like the fact
that they drafted the quarterback. But I do like Cousins.
I think he can help obviously, and that might not
be a bad one. That might not be a bad
one at all.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Bernie, here's another one. We talked about this earlier in
the show. The NFC East twenty years since the last
repeat division winner. So if the Cowboys and these boots
are made for walking, Dak Prescott can win the NFC
East this season, they'll become the first team in the
league repeat since so for when Philadelphia did it two decades.
(37:43):
Philly is going to be Dallas's toughest competition. I don't
think the Giants and the Commanders are a factor. So
the truth of the matter is, though you've got some
distractions there, Cede Lamb, he wants he wants a contract
on his last year. Mike McCarthy Barney Rubbles strolling around
the sideline like he can't find his car in the
parking lot.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Mall.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
The bottom line is this, you got three guys who
want to get paid. Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb and Mike
McCarthy's at a distraction or is that motivation?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
And Seedee Lamb might not be showing up. He may
hold out, right, he may not come to training camp.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I had not heard that, but maybe you're right.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, you know that's what they're saying. I mean, that's
the rumor out there. Who knows if it's true, but
that's the rumor going on.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
All right, let's talk about your Dolphins. Twenty three years
since their last playoff win win, They've been to the playoffs, right,
They've had five playoff appearances since two thousand and they
got bounced in the wildcard round every year. I like
this Miami team. They have an expulsive offense. They should
get to the playoffs. They finished second of scoring last
(38:45):
year to a leather league, and passing yards Tyreek and
receiving yards they put up seventy against Stanver. The question
is can they win a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
They got a lot of injuries last year towards the
end of last year. Yes, they did, and that's what
cost the division and that first playoff lost.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I got one more for you, bones one Arnie Sure,
my beloved Detroit Lions, part of the pre and post
broadcast team from ninety eight to eight. I rooted for him.
They've never made a Super Bowl appearance. They're one of
four NFL franchises that have never been to the Super Bowl.
They blew the seventeen point lead against the Niners last year. Okay,
can the Lions break that drought? They've never been to
(39:23):
the Super Bowl. Can they get to the Super Bowl
this year?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I'm not buying it to their greatest I love their offense.
I know they've got some great offensive weapons out there
and certainly could rush the passer. That division isn't all
that tough, is it. It's not the green.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Bay is going to be good. I think Chicago's gonna
have a base.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Doesn't scare me. Green Bay does not say it.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
They look pretty good, Arnie. They got it. I could
tell you what they got it together. They got seven
first round draftdresses on defense, and they really came of age.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
So you're buying Jordan Love, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
I am mind. Jordan Love, yeah, I am.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Well because they waited so long. I thought they waited
so long because he was to average out there. And
I know we had a good year last year, but
it wasn't tremendous or anything to write home about. It
was anything like, I can't put this guy in the
Hall of fame.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
When they strolled into Dallas, though, and beat him like
a renting, they rode him like a stick horse. I mean,
I don't think that was a fluke.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Like a stick horse. I liked that with Verdie. I
like that. All right, three hours are in the books.
I mean, the bonus hour is coming up next. Everything
we've not been able to get to we'll get to
it the bonus hour. We still have some more NFL
stuff to get to I told you about the quarterback
that throw the most incompletions because they throw bad passes.
(40:39):
I want to get to that. I want to get
to the Kansas City Chiefs. We got the Olympics. Just
all kinds of stuff next year on Fox Sports Radio
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