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Arnie Spanier & Bernie Fratto recap this years Nathan's Hotdog eating contest with one interesting factor, no Joey Chestnut!

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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good evening, Bernie. Happy fourth of July to you, my friend.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Oh that's fuss taking genius. Oh wait, wait, Plank's not
gonna assume me for saying that.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, no, no, that's a fright thing.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
And I'm happy to be working with you. Arnie. Thank
us again for your service to our country. I know
you gave the day off to Di Sager, and I'm
not upset that you didn't give the day off to me,
because this is a day, Arnie. Obviously, we celebrate our
independence and hot dogs? Right, Yeah, you know you know

(01:04):
what makes usay so kick ass? What are the two
things you think of it? Hot dogs and apple pie?
Is that fair?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
We didn't invent hot dogs. They came from Austria in
the eighteen hundreds. We didn't invent apple pie. That was
from England in thirteen ninety. But we're so badass here
in America, we just took them for our own. Happy
Fourth of July, Arnie, what are we.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Gonna replay right right off the bat?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, chevroletber What do we change
it out?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Of college college football?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
What tofu burgers, cheesecake and what like?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Electric vehicles? Is that? Is that the way it should
be changed out?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
And it's gonna be baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and
beach balls. You know who? You know we're gonna do
this later in the show. A lot of famous people
born on the fourth of July, including the legendary Morgana
Kissing Bannon born on the fourth of July, had over
seventy three rmance is, as it were, from some of

(02:01):
the most famous athletes in all the sports. And of
course you know she's retired now born on the fourth
of July, Morgana and.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Was I just saw a tweet from fred.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Linne I I retweeted that I was that day.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I let's start with that, Bertie, because first of all,
happy fourth of July.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Before you even get to that.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
I just want to say something that I had quite
a dilemma today. I don't know if you watch these shows,
but they do the marathons on the fourth of July,
Sci Fi does Twilight Zone. And I found on one
of the other channels one I never even heard of,
was like one on one or one to one or
whatever it is. I was an I on it was
a different one. They ran Sandford and Son. So I

(02:45):
don't know if you ever watch Sandford and Son. I
loved that show. That's quite a dilemmita pick which marathon
you got? And I love Twilight Zone. That that's a
tough pick, right there.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Bertie, you know, well, that's an extremely tough Pick's usually
between Brod Surling, one of the greatest and but come on,
you can picture friend right now clutching yourself, Elizabeth. I'm
covering it, Elizabeth lamart Rollo. You know Willie Mays was
in an episode.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
No get on here.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, he said a thing for brute cologne comes
in one day. He says, what's out of smell? And
role says wearing brute cologne. He goes, that's the most terrible.
He says, you gotta get rid of that. He goes,
what do you mean, Willie Mays? Where is it? He goes, Now,
you know what, it put him out there center field.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's too Bige used to love that show.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
That truck. It's too funny.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Matter of fact, you know what you brought up more Gaddy,
you said it was her birthday. We saw that tweet
by Fred Lynn. You said you were at that game.
Let's just start there before we get into Nathan's hot
Dogs and have some fun. We're here for the next
four hours. Oh and by the way, let's just tell
aybody right off the bat. Coming up next at about
twenty a little bit past twenty past the hour, Mickey

(03:59):
Soto and Nick Wayry. They're married, but Mickey won the
Nathan's hot Dog eating contest today. Nick finished third. We're
gonna get them on. We're gonna put him on speakerphones.
Hopefully everything goes well on that. But I'm very excited
to have him on again. We had him on now
last year, Bernie, so it was very, very exciting.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Some of the favorite arguments Fred Sanfra had was re memember.
It was with his sister in law Esther. You know,
fish eyed fault anyway, we'll get to that later. So Organa,
she's still with us, seventy seven years old to day.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
One of God bless her.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yes. And as you know, she on a dare at
Crossley Field when she was twenty two years old. Her
friend asked her or dared or two run on the
field and kiss one of the players. And Pete Rose
was her first victim, as it were. But over the
next what thirty years or so she retired ninety nine
cal rip and Steve Garvey, Nolan, Ryan, Johnny Bench, George

(04:51):
Brett was the only one she got twice kream abdul jabbar.
She got the San Diego chicken. The chickens said to her,
do me a favor. Don't kiss me on the lips.
It's more sanitary, and my wife won't get pissed off
at me. So she goes okay. So and as you know,
Morgana's measurements were sixty, twenty three and thirty six. Now

(05:12):
I'm going to a few base yeah, yeah, exactly sure.
So as you know, Arnie, people when they go to
ball games, they like to amuse themselves. They used to
do the wave, they drink, they look at their phones,
and they back beach balls around. Right. The people still
do that at games.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Beach every once in a while.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Okay, well it used to be a thing. It was
kind of stupid. June ninth, nineteen eighty three, Freddy Lynn's
walking up to the plate and he says, I hear
these weird cat calls going on behind me, and I figured,
I don't know what's going on. Something sounds really weird.
I figured it was either a fight in the stands
or beach balls. He goes, and I felt this presence

(05:49):
behind me, and I turned around. Sure enough it was
beach balls, and that was And so Freddy tweeted that out.
I just saw today. But but yeah, well today's her birthday.
So interesting and and.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
You imagine if right nowadays you don't get to run
on the field of kiss players, and no matter how
good look at anything like that.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
You know you weren't allowed to. Then either she got arrested.
She kept getting arrested and released, although she does claim
in one of her well she didn't runt a memoir,
but she's told a lot of stories that I guess
there were a couple of cities where she got roughed up.
I guess she got she's claimed she got beat up.
I was Security of Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, she had quite a life. She will not do
any media really, why not, She just had it. She
wants to live in privacy. Her last known media uh
you know, presence as it were, was on her fifty
year anniversary August nineteen ninety nine. She gave an exclusive
interview to USA Today. And she has moved on and

(06:48):
she's quietly living by herself.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Did she ever make any money off those ventures or not?

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah? Oh yeah she did.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
She made some.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
She made some money. And the truth of the matter
is she really became sort of a famous person in
the lexicon of American culture. And she did some TV
as well. I mean she got to go on you know,
Johnny Carson, and I think she was on some other shows.
I don't remember exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
What Johnny cart Wow, that's a big deal. Gosh, that's
yea right.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
You know. She did Late Night with David Letterman. Remember
remember the old game show back in the day to
tell the Truth. Yes, you got to go on that show.
She was on Good Good Morning America. And by the way,
for a while where she was living in Columbus, Ohio,
they had a morning show called Good Morning Columbus and
she was a coast.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Do you think young people like twenty five another know
who MORGANA was or not.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
My fault that they don't pick up a damn book.
I wasn't born during the War of eighteen twelve, but
I know about it, know your history people, I know.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
But the people of the young people are listening to
us right now, going who is this morgana person able
to run out of baseball field than kids that he
player that she wants to?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
What's going on here? You know what's that they got there?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Well, Pete Rocher knows her, so you know they Yeah,
I would say, you know, our our audience, arn'tie our
intelligent audience, they know who she was.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
All right, let's uh the Nathan's hot Dog eat. He
got those first things first. No, Joey Chestnut did that
going in where you bummed out about it, and then
as it was going on and it finished up where
you bummed out that Joey was not in it.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
How'd you feel about that?

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, when it started and I religiously watch it every year,
I don't care what anything.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, my wife's back to go the highest order. Thirty
thousand people attended. It's it's become a real live American event,
And of course you had. What really made a takeoff
was in like around two thousand and six when Kobayashi
and Joey Chestnut locked horns because Kobayashi had the rule
of the roost and then Joey chest Nunt beat him

(08:46):
and they're actually going to do something on Netflix November second.
So when it started, you know that guy that announce
your guy, he does a really.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Nice job, right, he does, he does.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
It's a ten minute event, right, I mean, there's a
lot of build up to it. But listen, you can't
not have a Fourth of July hot dog conversation without
referencing Joy Chestnut. He was invited down to Fort Bliss.
He took on twelve soldiers. He beat him fifty seven
to forty nine. Here's what's interesting. The winner in New
York eight fifty eight hot dogs in ten minutes. Today

(09:16):
Joey Chestnut fifty seven hot dogs in five minutes.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I know that.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
The four soldiers, Yeah yeah, I have three today, Arnie,
how made you have?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
My wife wouldn't let me eat hot dogs?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Well, when you do just do me one favorite, so
I don't have to put my head set down and
put my head through a wall. When you have hot dogs,
you don't put ketchup on him? They do you?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
No, I do the spicy mustard and sour krowd. I
like to get him from like the off the street
vendor guys in New York City that that's the best.
The ce Brett's hot dog, and I like the Nathan's
hot dogs do. I love to go out to Coney
Island and I like their friend fries, the creakle fries
with the little fork.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I love that stuff. I have to go back down again.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Anything to drink with that, Arnie. Why we're on the
subject at all? Yeah? They wash it down with.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
It, doesn't he high? Oh you who? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:04):
So I'm glad you say you don't put ketchup. By
the way, if you the great Mike North used to
say when he had his hot dogs, Dan, if you
want ketchup, you'll put it on yourself. I think there's
an ordinance in Chicago. I feel that if you if
you put ketchup on a hot dog, we've got to
have a conversation. I mean, ketchup is sugar Okay, you
are not enhancing the flavor of the hot dog. You're

(10:25):
camouflaging it. You're killing me. You're killing the dog too,
by the way, that's like it's like drinking wine with
a straw or eating pizza with a spoon. You don't
you don't do it. Man.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Are you a yellowish guy or sour?

Speaker 4 (10:36):
But pretty much just mustard? Yeah, you know, I've been
to pretty much every ballpark Friendway. French are tremendous. Dodger
dogs used to be great. I heard they're not as good.
The hot dogs a deal Tiger Stadium were to die for.
If you have to put a bunch of condiments on,
I'm like, I will put relish, always mustard. I will
put relish sometimes, depending on the mood i'm in, maybe onions,
but that's it. I don't want to go too far.

(10:58):
I want to taste the dog.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
I agree. I'm one hundred percent. The I think I
debate on is do you have two hot dogs? Do
you have three hot dogs? You have three good, but
three sometimes it's not enough.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
You got you gotta go for the third.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I've even I've even gone the fourth now and then
I'm not trying. I'm not trying to impress any but
it's you're either hungry or you're not. But you can't
just have one. Because you have one, and you have
that second one, you say, well, I'm just about there,
I haven't taken the edge off yet, and you crushed
the third one, and then everything's right with the world, right.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Hey, did?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
So after it was said and done, did you miss
Joey chest I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it a lot
more than I thought I was. I thought it was
a good race. Five guys were in the race, and
you know, even though they were pulling away there at
the end, I enjoyed the whole thing, and that it
was a lot closer than when Joey Chestnuts.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
In it, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
To answer your question, surprisingly, I did enjoyed every I
did enjoyed every bit as much, even without Joey Chestnut,
because when he's there, it's not a race. It's you
know who's gonna win. It's right, it's the old Larry
Bird the three point contests, which you knuckleheads are playing
for second, right, so you know Joey Chestnut's gonna win.
But today was a real genuine competition, and you got

(12:07):
to give these guys a lot of credit. We'll talk
about this with Mickey Soudo or her husband. I say this,
I don't say this tongue in cheek. They're actually athletes
if you understand what their training regimen truly is and
what they have to go through to get to that level.
It's no joke.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know what's crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Bertie Patrick Bertoletti, who wanted for the men's division, had
fifty eight dogs. Mickey Soto had fifty one, and she
broke the record. I wonder if she slowed down afterwards
because she had a lead in the women's division. She
actually ate more than her husband Nick, who had forty eight.
So I wonder if she could if you would have
finished third in the men's division, or maybe higher, maybe second,

(12:47):
if she pushed a little bit.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well, oh, there's a reason Mickey sudo has won this
contest ten years in a row, and she didn't win
it a couple of years ago because she didn't enter
because she was pregnant. Right right river has it Caitlin
Cockhead seventy seven dogs, which she was at home. So
we don't know if it's.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
True, but I I enjoyed it, man, I even Joe
it was it was a race.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
At first, I thought.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I wasn't gonna like and I'm like, come on, man, Joey,
just that's not there.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
How could you have this?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
But we went on without Koba Yashi and the people
in case people didn't know what did Joey just doesn't
sign with what some vegan company, that is what Dole Foods.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
And there's a real fight. Obviously. Obviously Nathan southwalks they
believe are beef and so this was in anthem of them.
They couldn't find a happy medium, which is a shame
because I actually think they have two different customer bases.
Hopefully they can work this out. But yeah, that was
what happened, and you know, the Powers to Be were upset.

(13:43):
They likened it to Jordan approaching Nike and saying, I
don't really like you guys are Nike, but I like
to join up with Adidas too. That was their analogy show. Wow, right,
you and I might not be able to get our
minds around this, that'd be that veheman, but they do
and they're the ones right in the checks.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
I'll tell you, I don't think I like to be
an official at this hot dog geating contest. Because the
guy that wanted Bertolotti, he I mean, they look like
he have some spillage there. I mean, you can't tell
when he's spilled it down his gin, and how you
know the hot dog is just shoving in his mouth,
and I mean, can you really tell three the whole
thing or what they're Bertie, It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
I've never understood the count. And then they kind of
have to have an official con at the end, and
they tried to create a little drama where they put
the first and second place guy next to each other. Yeah,
and they had to get the final tally and so
on and so forth, and then he raised his hand,
right Berto Letty won, but hey, give it up to him. Look,
there's a reason thirty thousand people show up for this
million's watch it. My buddy Jeremy Shapp was one of

(14:43):
the broadcasters today. We were texting, I love Jeremy and
it was kind of funny to see him do that.
So people can make fun of this event, but it's real.
And I'm wondering if what happened today at that Texas
Army Base might spawn a series of knockoffs, because as
long as Joy Chestnuts there and one of the other
things we'll do later in the show. Arnie's talk about

(15:04):
some of Joey Chestnuts thirty two eating records.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Look, you know this is not the Nathan's hot Dog
Eating Contest, but I was the MC of the Champagne
Valley Fair hot Dog Eating Contest for five years in
a row.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I just want to throw that out there.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Bernie's I think that's outstanding. Yeah, I think I Look,
we're at you now. We're doing work in July fourth
for Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's incredible. All right, we're gonna come back.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Hopefully we'll be able to set up an interview with
Mickey Soto and her husband Nick Werry. Mickey won the contest.
Nick finished third today, so looking forward to that. They're
gonna be on speakerphone. So hopefully fingers crossed. They're coming
up next. Bernie Fratto, Arnie Spanier, and for the guys
today right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (16:44):
I guess there was a little bit of a misunderstanding. Bernie.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, look fair enough, we have to respect people. Steve.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, she said she'll come on Sunday when I'm along
with Plank and I'm also filling in Monday.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
But you know, what can you do? Just a misunderstanding?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
So maybe maybe I was texting on well, no, who
knows what I want.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I want to give her her props. She won the
day fifty one.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Hot dogs and she was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Ended up talking to Jeremy Shapp and her husband Nick
Werry did a hell of a job too. He was
leading his division, uh for a lot of the contest,
and I think he finished third, and I guess he
was very happy, very happy for Mickey, but you know,
like a great competitor, wanted to win. But here's the thing,
because this has actually become now she's won ten times

(17:30):
in a row. All right, Wow, that's the thing, Ardie.
She had fifty she had fifty one hot dogs today.
Guess somebody she ate last year what she won thirty nine.
That's a big jump. So I was going to touch
on that in her training. And look, I used I
used to have a joke years ago in Detroit, how
do you tell the sports sport you can trash talk,

(17:51):
you can bet on it, you can pull a groin? Well,
you can trash talk in this you can certainly bet
on it. I don't know if you can pull a groin.
But I think the notion that they're not athletic is
not fair. If people understood the training that they have
to go through, they'll start out by drinking enough water
to expand their stomach till they feel like they're going
to explode. It's understanding Mickey Pseudo when she's training prior

(18:14):
to the event. You've got to build up your endurance,
you've got to build up your strength. You're physically fit.
She walks twenty two thousand steps a day, which is
about eleven miles a day.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Nicks ripped it. You see that guy's bicep. That guy's
got like a bowling ball there. It's great.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Oh yeah, no, these guys, you know what, Joey Chestnut's
got a six pack, dude. So they're I mean, they're
not really eating. They basically train their mouth and their
jaws to become like a wood chipper, right, and it's
just going down the gullet. Did you know that Nick Werry,
I think he has it may not be the world record.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
But I know, yeah, have the records.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah yeah, well well so you know, you know, we'll
get into the.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I have suche in front of me.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
He's eating like a fifteen pound burrito in eight minute.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
It's the fifty one hard boiled egs in three minutes.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
That's insane.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
That's and George Chesnut's got the record one hundred and
forty one, but it took aim eight minutes with fifty one.
Do the math. Do the math. It's one hundred and
eighty seconds, and you're crushing fifty one that's won every
three seconds, and you gotta chew it and you gotta
get it down the gullet. How the hell do you
do that?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
And Mickey owns a lot of records too, I mean
like like twenty or twenty five different so maybe more
than that, maybe like fifty different thing.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
And I think people don't think about one of the reasons,
aren't he that their cardio is so important. Nikki Suda
admitted this in an article of The New York Post.
If you get into that competition and you dive into it,
if you are not in shape, you'll get winded. You'll
get winded, just like if you're doing win sprints, er
you're playing basketball or something like that. So there's a
lot more that goes into it. So people that would
dismiss this or purpoo this, or like the mad dog

(19:49):
Russo he says, if the damn thing was in my backyard,
I'd shut my blinds. I wouldn't watch it. Fair enough,
everybody's got an opinion, But thirty thousand people attended and
we watched it and we talk about.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Was it thirty thousand?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
You know, I want.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I would love to go to Coney Island, sit down
and nate. It's been so long since since I've been
out there, since I was just like a young kid,
and I really I really.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Want to go back out there.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's just just so much fun out there.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
You know what what we had to do is you
had to eat like thirty hot dogs. Now we'll go
ride the roller coaster right here.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, no, it's so yeah. Well, we'll try to get
him on like Sunday or Monday or whenever. We're all
doing a lot of filling. I know Bernie's doing filling.
I know he's got a weekend show. And Mickey's always
been kind. I've had her on my local show also,
so it was just a misunderstanding.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
She's always been very accommodating and Nick.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Too, So it would have been great if they've been
able to win her husband and his wife. I mean,
could you imagine the endorsements on that huh?

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Starting to get endorsements anyway, you know. Yeah, And like
I said, great performance, just you know, finish third.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, just finished third out there, so hopefully they'll join
us later on in the week. By the way, if
you want to get ahold of us through Twitter, real
simple at Bertie Fratto, also at Stinking Genius One. We're
gonna come back. We'll start getting into some of the
moves in the NBA. I know everybody's talking about Lebron,
plus we'll talk about some of the other free agent
moves out there. But first our first check in to

(21:13):
see what's treading with our buddy Kevin Wyatt.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
What's going on, k w Yeah, it's the fourth of
July and it's the national pastime. I mean, what better
combination is there, especially on today, and it's been a
great day of baseball right now. We've got a few
games going on right now. Rockies and Brewers are in
the eighth inning now and it's Colorado still clinging to
that one run lead four to three, and Milwaukee, though

(21:37):
up with a runner on first and two out raise
lead the Royals nine to six. They're in the bottom
of the sixth inning in at Kansas City with Kansas
City after bat no one on and two out, so
the Royals trying to cut in to that Tampa Bay
lead the Dodgers have cut into the deficit they faced
against the Diamondbacks. It's four nothing in favor of Arizona

(21:59):
Christian Waukee. It seems like he goes deep every time
he plays the Dodgers, and tonight two home runs as
he again he up to get the Diamondbacks out to
a four to.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Nothing league, but the Dodgers have cut into that.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
It's now four to three, bottom of the fourth inning
out in Los Angeles, as Austin Barnes getting a two
RBI single to get those two runs across in this inning.
Key k Hernandez with an RBI groundout to get the
scoring started for Los Angeles in that fourth inning, everything though,
has gone final in Major League Baseball. The day started

(22:30):
at the Nation's Capitol, Nationals blink and the Mets won nothing.
Cardinals and Pirates go to extra inning. Saint Louis wins
at three to two. The Reds finish off of sweep
of the Yankees, winning at eight to four. Over in
New York, Astros on a roll, they beat the Blue
Jays five to three. They're now just two games back
of Seattle for first place in the American League West.

(22:52):
Seattle did beat Baltimore seven to three. That snaps a
four game losing streak by the Mariners and the Orioles,
though did win the previous two games of this series
that allowed them to get two games ahead of the
Yankees after the Yankees again got swept by the Red
so Baltimore two games ahead in New York and the
Al East standings Padres when they three to one win
against the defending champion Texas Rangers, Jerks and Profar going

(23:15):
at deep four. San Diego Athletic shout out the Angels
five to nothing. Giants over the Braves four to two.
Matt Chapman to go ahead home run for San Francisco
Twins beat the Tigers twelve to three in a shortened affair.
Seven innings was all that one went. Cubs and Phillies,
it's Chicago beating the best team in baseball ten two,
Ian Happ going deep twice a four for four day,

(23:36):
But the Phillies still the best team in baseball, is still
the best record. They are fifty seven and thirty on
the season, and the Guardians top the White Sox eight
four in extra innings. In Miami, it's the Red Sox
top of the Marlin six to five and twelve. That's
you guys, all.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Right, thanks a lot, Kevin of course, Bernie Fratto, Orney
Spanier in for the guys tonight, Jason Smith and his
best tread Mike Carbon right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
On the fourth of July.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
It feels like a Sunday night, Berdie, you know what
I mean, didn't feel like a holiday. There's just people
running around, and you know, we do less fireworks. It
seems like on the fourth of July. The fireworks show
here in Burlington, Vermont was always on the third of July,
and there was only three night baseball games, and I
don't even know how many of them are actually having fireworks,

(24:21):
probably all three. But back in the day you'd have
just about every home team doing the fireworks after the
game on the fourth of July.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
You know, I'm sure major league teams still do it.
I know here in Las Vegas it's a big deal.
A lot of the casinos, it says seven thirty four pm.
Here in Las Vegas, they won't start the fireworks shows
until about nine pm. But you're right, they used to
be a big deal. People going to the fourth of
July major league games and staying out for the fireworks
show afterward. Not a big deal for me. I hate

(24:50):
to break up the party. Fireworks bore me to death.
They'd make my teeth itch. I remember, it's a kid.
Let's go to Diwsyland. Let's see the fireworks. And I
remember the first time I went. I was like ten
years older. Oh okay, all right. Then at the end,
the last couple of minutes, they do the grand finale. Right,
I'm like, why don't they just do that the whole time?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know, Fernie I got.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I remember as a kid, my parents were having like
this little party in our apartment. And when I met
an apartment, we're talking about like a small apartment maybe
it's like seven eight hundred square feet, two bedroom right,
one bedroom on one side, one bedroom on the other,
barely a kitchen, I mean, and you had a living room.
My parents had some friends over and I had my

(25:30):
cousin Ron there, and he had these bottle rockets and
we opened up the window.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I was on the tenth floor. There's no there's no
screen or nothing up of the tenth floor.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
You can open up the window and we point the
bottle rockets out. Ron lights them and he hits it
and they turn around and they come back in the
house and they explode in the house.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Oh no, he smoked going everywhere. It was crazy, man.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
I gotta tell you he used to be a joyous thing.
Right back in the day, they showed news. Hey, they're
having fireworks over here. Myers bagels show up right now,
here's the news story. Okay, day Lion Las Vegas. Be
careful out there. You don't want to bull your hand off. Yes,
you don't want to boil your finger off. Cops are
patrolling if you are illegal fireworks, which everybody is. Okay,

(26:16):
I'm done with it, man, But I gotta tell you
the injury thing is real. I don't don't take my
word for it, asked Jason Pierre Paul. Of course, you
know I met him once. You when I met him? No, yeah,
he gave me a high three. Too soon, too soon.
He's come back and very successful. Pirty.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
We had something called cherry bombs and they were actually a.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Quarter Sojanas remember edicated to go down to tij Wan
to buy those m as and you buy.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
It, bite and throw it diabite at each other. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
No, no, no, that no, that that was. I don't
want to relive those days. My buddy Joe Razor bought
a cherry bomb and an M eighty. He goes, let's
see how this thing really works. He put it in
the meal box and lit it. We got back about
fifty feet. It looked like Iraq. He blew the mailbox
to eighty. Yeah, fourteen years old. He got on his motorcycle,
went to serious bought a new mailbox. Those parents wouldn't
find out. Yeah, no, thank god. And here's the sad part.

(27:13):
I hope I'm dead wrong. There are going to be
injuries because people will never heed the warning. Plus you
know there might be alcohol involved.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, that always happens. But there was a lot. I mean,
it was just priceless with the you know, with the
whole uh you know, fireworks in your body.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
It used to be cheap.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Now they're expensive, as Albertie, they really are. They're crazy expensive.
If you go over to the side of the road,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
I don't you know what you're scooping me? If you
told me, I mean, I can tell you what a
poart of milk is. How much I'm not being funny.
How much are fireworks now?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, now they don't really like seb individually.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
They sell them in packages, you know, so you could
get him as cheap as like twenty five thirty bucks
as usual the bottom part, and it goes on up
and there's packages for fifty one hundred. I mean what
I would younger, you can at you by like, all right,
I'll take two cherry.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Bombs, I'll take a couple of eighties, take some chi. Yeah,
they don't do it like that anymore.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
That those days are over, that's for sure, all right,
party those we had some free agent moves in the NBA.
Lots were going on before I even get to that,
before I get to Klay Thompson, before I get to
some of the signings out there. Was it very exciting,
was it? I mean it didn't have any frills. There
was nothing really out of the ordinary. Klay Thobson didn't

(28:30):
end up going back to Golden State, and of course
everybody was talking about Brody.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
We'll get into that a little bit later on.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
But nothing really crazy out there, except for the Knicks
trade when they got Bridges.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
It's pretty much well in there's twenty four seven news
cycle where and there weren't a lot of surprises. I
think people knew Clay Thompson was not going to be
back with Golden State. If you didn't see that coming
for three four months ago. Hell Stevie Wonders saw that
coming three four months ago. So he ends up with Dallas,
which is a very shrewd move. I understand. Dallas made
a sensational presentation. He turned down Lebron, as did pretty

(29:05):
much everybody else. Apparently they're not going to do something
with Tomato Rosen either. But I think that was the
headline of the draft, and I think they're pretty excited
in Dallas because here's the situation. Josh Green couldn't get
it done. Tim Hardaway Junior couldn't get it done. So
all of a sudden, you go out and get a
guy who statistically is the second best shooter of all time.
I know he's lost the yard off his fastball, but

(29:26):
this is a great addition. Harden goes back to the
Clippers whole home. Patrick Williams of the Chicago Bulls whull
hom Paul George. Every time Paul George is the playoffs,
you gotta send You know, he's on the side of
a milk carton What has he ever done in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Just ask because other three teams, you know what I mean,
every time he promises, he didn't pull through.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
You know, so Tyrese Maxey, he you know, stayed for
Philadelphia and then after that, you know, this big deal
Isaiah Hartenstein that will actually see that is a big
deal for the for the Oak home of City Thunder
because he'll help Chet Holmgren a lot. So, you know,
depending on if you look at the exes and those
of this, for some of these cities, they're they're they're

(30:09):
really kind of excited. There's not a lot of splash
because in the twenty four to seven news cycle we're
in now, there just isn't a lot of surprises anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Lebron said he was going to take a pay cut
to go ahead and bring my back.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Well wait, wait, wait, wait, so people have just said
that he said he was going to take a pay cut.
Once they's got Brodny's contract on, got him signed and
got him drafted, he was going to take a pay
cut to bring in one of I think it was
four or five on the list.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
One was Clay. There was about four or five.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Well they thought Clay, James Harden, Jonas valenciunis right, and
maybe to Martin Rosen right about forty Okay, here's the deal.
To Martha Rosen's going to get twenty five millionaire. Would
Lebron take a pay cut from fifty one million to
twenty six million to get to Martin Rosen?

Speaker 3 (30:50):
I don't think, well, anything's possible because he has his
kid playing with him, and who knows how much who
was willing.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
To sacrifice to make that happen.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
But I agree with you, You're you're probably right on
that listen.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
I hope Bronnie has a Hall of Fame career. I
hope he's he breaks his dad's records. I hope he's
the silhouette of the NBA. But I don't know anybody
with the straight face and thinks this is a really
great idea. He wanted to see a Sun drafted. Fine,
he got it sundrafted and yes, and made no mistake, Ernie.
He earned it. He earned it. He spent nine months

(31:23):
in missus James stomach, nine months and when he popped out,
Lebron James is his dad. He earned it. I mean, Arnie,
if you spent nine months and missus James stomach, I
think you've earned a track with the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Do you buy that bought theuly? Yeah, yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
People were getting upset about that, and you think that
the Lakers would have used a different approach other than
saying that he's earned it, deserved it, trying to, you know,
feel like that there was no special favors done for Hi.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
You don't want to use the word nepotism, do you.
It's nepotism with a capitalin. But you know, I don't care.
I don't care. Here's the deal, let's be let's keep
it real. Here's another written rule. If you're the all
time NBA leading scorer and you've won four championships with
three teams and near the face of the franchise for
the Lakers, and you've basically been helping them print money
even though you get to the play tournament every year,

(32:13):
you get to call some shots. So I got no
problem with Lebron using his power because he did or
in that over twenty years, I went down and saw
Lebron play a high school game, Arnie. I'll still living
in Detroit. I was with ninety seven one CBS back then.
Took a driver on the lake two hours to Cleveland.
It was probably March of two thousand and three. It's
playing for Saint Mary's. I wanted to see what the

(32:33):
hype is all about. He lived up to it. I
saw an NBA body, great guard skills, great handles. He
was very unselfish setting up his teammates. I'd never seen
to myself. You could put this guy in an NBA
game right now and the rest is history twenty years later.
So when you reach that station in life, yeah, I
have no problem with you saying I want JJ Reddick

(32:55):
and I want Rob Polenka to draft my son. Don't
just bring him in, I want him draft the rest
of his life. He was drafted by the Lakers. Now
he'll have to deliver on the floor. Let's see what
happens when.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
We get back.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I want to talk about why superstars don't want to
play with Lebron, Why exactly Clay said no to the
Lakers and Lebron and some of the other moves out there.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
So we'll get to all that.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
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and his best friend Mike Carmon right here on Fox
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Speaker 1 (33:24):
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Speaker 7 (33:36):
All Right, good evening, everybody, Bernie Frado, Arnie Spaniard in
for the guys, Jason Smith and his best friend Mike
Carmon live at the tire rac dot Com studios.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I'm just watching the end of this soccer game.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
I think Argentina with a one nothing lead over Ecuador
ninety minute mark, so they're gonna have extra time coming up.
And that's about it. I'm very disappointed at the United
States once again. Disappointed every year, not every year, every
other year, but we only play like every two or
four years, I don't even know anymore, and we always
get this apt.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
We'll get into that later on.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Berdie, I would ask you this, Why didn't the superstars
want to play with Lebron? Is it because Lebron's at
the end of his career? Is Lebron too demanding? Is
there something behind the scenes? Is Lebron passed his prime?
Because that's not and he's still putting up good numbers.
Why didn't they get that extra free agent this year?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
So it's a very good question. And lets you start
with Klay Thompson. If you were Klay Thompson, you want
to win. You want to win another championship, right right, Well,
the Lakers are nowhere near that. They can't. They will
not leap frog Denver, Dallas, Minnesota, Oklahoma City, even Houston's coming,
even the Pelicans are coming. And I don't think Golden State.

(34:53):
They signed Buddy Heel today, They're not going anywhere, right,
It's a very crowded West. So if you are Klay Thompson,
you go to Dallas. And by the way, I heard
the Lakers offered Clay eighty million and Dallas offered him fifty.
So it was a bit of a snub to the Lakers, but.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
It was not a big snub.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
It was more though, hey, Dallas can win now. They're
built to win now. They just got done getting to
the NBA finals. Klay Thompson has a definitive role on
a team that has a game plan, and so it
was a great fit. And you know you hear these
stupid comments, Well, I didn't want to pay California taxes. Hello,

(35:35):
Klay Thompson has lived in California for the last fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Right.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
You know, he already knows about all that he wants
to win. The Lakers are nowhere near winning. And you
could have got James Harden, you could have got to
Marta Rosen, which they still could do and now they
can actually with the second Apron. But here's the bottom line.
It's two things. The Lakers are nowhere near winning, and
let's be honest, Arnie, just between you and me, don't
tell anybody go there. And when Lebron takes all the

(36:01):
credit you lose, he blames everybody else and walks off
the floor.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
In spite of his father was a great Laker pushing that,
and in spite of him having a house there Also,
what does that have to.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Do with the price of rice? He wants to win.
He's his own man. I mean, you know that would
have been cool. Maybe Michael Thompson can suit up. You
could have Michael Thompson and Klay Thompson and Bronni James
and Lebron James. In two years you have Bryce James
and we will have a big party and throw fireworks
and neat hot dogs.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I didn't think about that.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
In all seriousness. Yeah, look, I don't think Lebron is
anywhere near as beloved as he wants to be. Is
he respected? Yes? Yes, his accomplishments speak for themselves. But
he's at he's at that stage in his career now
where you're you're not playing the back nine, you're in
the nineteenth toll. All right? Was he productive this year? Absolutely?

(36:54):
Can he defend like he used to? No, it's becoming
a side show and everybody knows it. Sorry, no one
wants to say it. You just want to let it go.
There's an old joke. If two people are on an
elevator and somebody passes gas, everybody knows who does without
saying a word. That's what's happening with the Lakers. You
don't want to go there. If you have designs of
winning a championship, If you want to be part of

(37:14):
the father son game and you want to see Dian
Cannon in the first row, fine, but the bottom line
is they're not going to win, and these you know,
Paul George really wants to win. I don't think Philadelphia
went either. I mean it's possible. I mean anything's possible
in sports. Bob Uker wants hit a home run off
Sandy Kofax. Yeah, but I do I think the Lakers

(37:36):
are gonna win. No, and I think that's more of it,
more so than snubbing Lebron. But you can't deny the
fact that it's it's a little bit of a cluster.
There aren't And you know it all.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Right, Bertie, I know we're short on time. Hour one
just flew on by. But crazy thing just happened. Ecuador scored,
but they're arguing they scored an extra time at the
ninety third minute, in the ninety fourth minute, but they're
arguing that they're off sides, and I don't know if
they're looking at it at a replay. They're just arguing

(38:06):
with the ref. The ref is arguing back. I don't
even know what they're doing. So I don't know if
it's who could put up the best debate, if they're
going to count it or not, or what.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
But right now it's one.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
One, so I and you know how these things can
get out ahead and a lot of yelling and craziness,
which is what's going on right now. So I'll have
to see what happens Hour one of the books. We
just flew on by. We're gonna come back, Mark Medina
gonna join us, and now our number two. We got
more NBA to get to, we got some NFL. We're
just getting things started off here, right here on Fox
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