July 6, 2024 • 44 mins
Martin Weiss & Veejay Huskey talk shop on JJ Redick's introduction of Bronny James. Plus, the guys talk more on Tua and his contract hold up, the College Football Playoffs expansion, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, that's right, your favorite Saturday evening show slid over
to a little Friday Night. Although I'll tell you what, VJ,
this is the most Saturday is feeling Friday that it
ever existed.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The minute you just said Friday night, my mind went,
it's Friday. It just didn't feel like it with the
holiday being on the on a Thursday. And as I've
said many times on the air, when you become a
parent man, honestly, and you're like you're in your parent
mode every day, you just know kind of numbers. You
really don't know when it's Monday Tuesday, when you just know, Okay,
we gotta do this on the thirteenth, we gotta do
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this one.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
It's so I've definitely lost check. Wow, it does feel
like Saturday this morning, and I was like, wait a minute,
I have to work.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's all right, What is this show doing on it?
What is this show doing on it Saturday? Well, that's
the fact it's not. We will be doing this exact
same thing Saturday, just about this exact same time. If
you're interested in what you'd like to hear, you can
hear more of it. But VJA, let's go ahead and
get started with your favorite clown show of a franchise,
as you like to call it.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't know if you actually have called I've never
I've never said that.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I have been blessed to cover this team, So I've
never said that, but I feel you it's.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
A general sentiment from my left though.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'll go ahead and go out and live and say
I'm speaking for you in that moment.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh, okay, thanks a lot. I appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, just stay tuned for the next ten minutes and
you'll see where I'm coming from. JJ Reddick into Lebron
James Junior introductory press conference. There was also Dalton connect here,
though you would have never known, uh, just based off
the questions.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I knew he was the one that was dressed like
he was doing his first introductory press conference.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The only problem, the only problem that I had with
with the introductory press conference. And then I'll let you
go ahead and take it from here. I did not
like the fact that Savannah was there. We're at work now,
We're at work. Now, stay home.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Mom watching Martin. You you know he's power before you
can get in trouble, buddy, watch it. Yeah, this thing, man,
I thought that this thing couldn't get any worse. I read, No,
I did. It's until the ball tips in October. Until
the balltips that I told her, and you know me,
my ears to the ground.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I listened to a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I don't watch so much as far as TV shows,
but a lot of reading, a lot of scrolling and
clicking on different you know, journalists that I like and trust,
are different clips from guys speaking on TV.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And this thing is going.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
To They might not make the playoffs just as fast
as a year ago when they so called one the
off season. That was the narrative through a lot of
the national sports media that the Lakers had won the
off season. And we just continue to do this because
there's such a stranglehold that Lebron has as far as
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the attention wherever he is, that they get a few
things that JJ said during this press conference that I
just thought wasn't needed, Like I think I have a
different kind of opinion on what he was saying about
Bronni and that he wasn't given anything and that it
was earn at this point. He's so smart, he's such
a duchie. He's so smart, you're not making you're not
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winning any points. At this point. With that, I would
abandon that all together. I turned into Bill Belichick. We're
just getting ready for summer League. We're getting Brownie ready
for summer League. We're getting Bronnie And people would just
get tired of asking it. But the fact that he
is so open, well the.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Thing, here's the thing said a smart moved nothing to
cut you off. But nobody asked him.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
No, nobody asked that was something he just volunteered on
his own. Like nobody was like, do you think that
Bronnie James didn't earn this spot? If that had been
the question, then the response makes sense. But the question
is like, how is Bronnie James going to integrate your offense?
And you go, he earned this?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
How dare you?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But you know what, this is part of the problem
with JJ Reddick is because he is a very online person. Absolutely,
so this like that is not a response from the
reporters that were there. That was a response to the Internet,
to the stuff that he's reading. He I tell you this, man,
he is falling faster than I thought he would just
by opening his mouth at this point. There's always something
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about the guys. They think they're the smartest in the room.
I don't mind being corrected. I don't mind being told
I'm wrong, Then teach me I don't. No one knows everything,
but when you act like you know everything, it's just
it gets really, really irritating.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And then it becomes like and like you said, it
becomes a circus, it becomes a clown show. And we'll
get into a free agency a little deeper. But there
is a reason I wasn't on this boat. A few
weeks ago, our good friend Aaron Torres said about Dan
Hurley not taking a job. He told me to my
vace VJ, it's not the job you think it is,
and I'm going there.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm like, dude, it's the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's the most known franchise in basketball in the world,
right there with the Yankees. As far as all world clubs,
Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The Lakers fit that they fall.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Into their I'm starting to backtrack and believe he and
a lot of other people were right. And that's how
you end up with a guy like JJ Reddick who
feels like he has to say these things more to
like prove something, and it lets us know that the
negative stuff that's being said, whether it's right or not,
but it's true. Like the stuff people are saying, it
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is true. You guarantee fifty fifth pick, guaranteed four year contract.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, that's pretty standard if you look, if you look
at other fifty fIF if you look at other second
round picks, they either on two way contracts or that
deal which is three years, and it basically it's the
eight million sounds like a lot, but it really locks
you with.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
At the league minimum.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So what it does is it protects teams from uh,
it protects teams because those players then will basically never
reach unrestricted free agency.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
You know what you said, that's so great just now,
and I still don't care.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I don't like I mean, but it's the same deal
like Jokic got, if you adjust for the salaries at
the time, it's the same deal that Chris Livingston.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Got, the last guy who was picked.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
But there was also there was also a list of
I don't know how many it was, but it was
four fifty fifth picks recently. I'm not sure if it
was the last five years or five ANDUS six where
I believe if not all of them. Most of them
were two way contract. I think maybe one was a
two year deal. No, but that's what in the second round.
You either sign a two way deal basically, or you
signed this. That's not the point I want to. The
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point I'm making is we know why he got the
four year guaranteed contract. You don't have to Yeah, okay,
yeah right, his dad he is and his dad is
a great age.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I would always salute him to that.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But stop stop peeing on our face and telling us
as raining like we understand what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I just think that they would.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Be better served to leave stuff alone that they want
to talk about and make it a soap proper and
just move forward, because I think it's the wolves that's
not going to send the wolves away.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
They're gonna keep coming.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
If you said because in the introductory press conference you
said he earned it, Okay, where's the production now? We
want to see the production because you said he earned it,
he wasn't given, you know, an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
He earned.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
His opportunity was giving nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I just think JJ and the Lakers would do themselves
a big, big advantage if they stop talking and just
go in the summer league and go into Bill Belichick mode.
Answer as simple as you can, and keep it moving
because this is all going to start once the season starts.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well, for me, the biggest concern that I have.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
With it is is, uh, you know, moving on from
the whole, you know, the actual act of drafting Briannie James, right,
I think it, you know, maybe just maybe there's not
it's not crazy to think that, you know, they actually
like his game.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
On top of.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
People don't care. At this point, it's gone away. It's
gone with that. Yeah, it's gone away. But this is
the to me. J. J.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Reddick now is zero for two in public press conferences
by just answering the questions that are asked.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I saw what you I saw the clip you and
Broussard on the couple when you filled in.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I watched the entire clip. I saw what you said
about that.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, like you said about to me, that he's using
swearing in the first one to try to project confidence,
to try to show like, yeah, I've got this in
the bag.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's cool to do.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I can swear because I don't Yeah, I don't care
what everybody else has to say about me.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm freaking JJ Reddick. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right, like all right, cool, you got it, dude, like awesome,
like you know, then there's really that's how he projects
himself though.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But that's what So I didn't love it. I didn't
love it. I thought it was kind of lame personally.
I think, like I was with you on your job is.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Just to like enter, you know, you not have to
answer to these people who are on the timeline. They're
on the timeline, right, They're not in the locker room
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
If Genie bus comes in with, hey.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
JJ, this is what they're tweeting about you, then maybe
I'll have a conversation with Genie about it. Right, maybe
I'll have a conversation with Rob Polinka, the one that
comes in and says, hey, do you know fire JJ
is trending right now?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It's like, then I'll have the conversation with Rob. Right,
but this is the second time.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So he did that right, kind of answering the Twitter
to Twitter trolls that he had seen the whole.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
What you admitted to I know I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So then again in this press conf's he again responds
to the Twitter folks that are saying Brianni James didn't
earn this blazza blah, because you don't have to say
any of that, especially when it's not a question that's asked. Right,
So then to me, now, what happens when the Lakers
start out and there's seven and ten through the first
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seventeen games, and the timeline is saying, you gotta make
this coaching decision, you gotta pull this guy out. Like like,
for example, last year when Darvin ham was running the team,
every every single person with a Kobe Bryant, Abbey Avatar
or Lebron James sixth Avatar was on their Twitter was saying.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You gotta take Toria Prince out of this line up.
You know, I mean, what are you doing playing Torria Prince?
Can't you see?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Like? And they come in at Darvin Ham. So what
happens when that happens to JJ Reddick Because Darvin Hampton
this kind of didn't say, you know, social media told
me any of the Vegetorian Prince is JJ gonna say
seven seven team games in when they're seven to ten,
the twenty twenty four to twenty five equivalent of I'm
not and I'm not benching Dory Torean princis quit asking
me about it when nobody asked him about it, like, how.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Much is this social gimy?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It does?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But how much of the social.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Media is going to permeate his daily decisions because you
see people like that, There are people out there in
the world who let Twitter and Instagram determine what they do.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Right, how much of that is going to seep in to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
JJ Reddick's day in, day out operation of the Los
Angeles like.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It will because Lebron is very active on Twitter and
social media. You know what's so surprising about this tandem?
Or you know threeho You know there's there's three team.
They got to got JJ, you got Ad, and you
got Lebron.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Ad is the quietest guy out of all of this.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
He he he strikes me as a guy who truly
just wants to play ball.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
He don't care about nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Since when he's been in LA, when has anything ever
been said about him off the court?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
What big story?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
When we run into our microphones, plugging in our earphones
and waiting for the red light to come on to
start talking about.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Did you see what Ad did? He this?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
This is the guy who's like, I'm hurt a game,
Yeah hurt, But.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, that's is seventy six.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
He played seventy six last year, Lebron plays seventy one
or reverse either or one play seventy six the other
one plays seventy.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean it's front pace news when they both played
over seventy exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
But this coming season, JJ, to be honest with you,
he's protected. I'm not worried about him. The guy I'm
worried about the most in all of this because we
know they tried to trade him or they took trade
calls and office for him last year leading into the
deadline with led into him showing that he wears his
emotions on his sleeve all the way back to New
Orleans the night Lebron breaks the record. You know, Lebron's
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got to make sure he puts his arm on and
say you know I love you right like where like why?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Why? Where's that coming from?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I know you're supposed already let me know they were
trying to move him. Possibly. A D is the guy
who's the next pen to fall out of all of this.
As soon as stuff starts go wrong, trust me, it
will be because of A D. And either him or
Perlinka those are the next two because apparently Polika can't
land anybody, which I don't get how people say that
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instead of just saying maybe just the luster is off
the Lakers, the luster of playing with Lebron is off, and.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The jig is up. People see it for what it is,
and this is something I don't know exactly what that means.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
But what I do know is that I'll break it
down later on the show if you want me so,
I can definitely tell you why the Laker the luster
is off the Lakers off of Lebron.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Well, the thing is, for a.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Solid decade, if you played with Lebron, you were going
to the NBA finals or at least the conference finals
for like a solid decade.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's not true this Lakers. No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But also when you were playing Lebron over the last decade,
your career got changed. By the way, as we're talking
about social media, TV debate shows people that will beat
and beat and beat your name down when you don't win,
you can get there. I do completely, I do completely,
but but I feel you. But this the introductory press conference,
man to put a ball on it just another kind
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of like, wow, you guys should just stop talking and
just just go because everybody's gonna want to see what's
up with Brownie. Went Summer League and then going into
training camp, and we saw hes he getting the preseason games.
It's all gonna you got to go in to South Bay.
I got him suiting up and sitting on the bitch
open at night. There's no way Lebron is sating his
son to South Back.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, he's definitely going to South Bay, but he'll be
on the bench opening night because there is no g
League opening night of the the league starts like a month,
a month and a half after the NBA.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Regular Yeah, I think he gonna be on that bench
a lot for the Lakers this year, a lot he needs.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Why we'll talk about this in a moment coming up next,
the end of a dynasty?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What does it mean? Who's to blame?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Martin wisse VJ Husky, Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
I'mna still hold out some hope and some faith, but
I think I might because I don't like.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
The way being about to say.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Because while we're sitting in for Jay, it's just fit
that his best friend, Vick Harmon, vj's best friend quarterback
may not be sitting in Miami very much longer. Ooh so.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
My guy, ooh yeah, this thing's getting it's getting a
little it's getting a little out of hand. This deal
should have been done, whether people. I don't care about
the fans and Twitter, and I'm going by what's been happening.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I go by when it comes to the NFL contracts.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You're never gonna lock me into an argument of what
a guy doesn't deserve unless it's something that's astronomically to
the left or astronomically to the right. Like Daniel Jones
who's getting forty million dollars and as a season high
of fifteen touchdown passes in his career and missed the
majority of last season being hurt. He's making forty million dollars.
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This would be his last year with the Giants. Don't
move on. They'll do some other things for the football
New York Giants.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But what sounds like especially, we'll talk about that coming
up that little bit. Yes, sure, it sure sounds like
it from what we've seen behind the scene.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, that was a small, small, little uh tease there.
We call in the radio.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But what the Dolphins are are bumbling with with this
contract with Tour. They're treading water and being in the
San Diego Charger position. When Drew Brees hurt his shoulder,
now you got Philip Rivers out of the deal. That
that that makes that decision go away real fast.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
What we talk about. That's like buying a lottery ticket
to plan for your retirement.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, there you go. But the talk of the whole
Drew Brees dislocated his shoulder, scoring a touchdown on the
goal line, stretching the ball out at his size, wanting
to score, wanting to win for the Gipper. That that
that that old rudy sports attitude.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
We saw that out of Drew Brees.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
But then Nick Saban, who now says, oh, well, if
we got the quarterback I wanted. You were part of
the decision too, that thought, Dante, You trusted Dante Colpepper's
knee over Drew Brees's shoulder, and that would have changed
the franchise. It's the one we had a shot at
after Marino to change the franchise, and we blew it
played in simple whoever's decision it was, it was a
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blown decision.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Period.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
You have a chance now for whatever, I don't care
what the talking show says or with the.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Fans in Twitter and all that says. Put the tape on.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
If you want to try to talk to me about
injury reports, I can tell you the injuries of all
the top paid quarterbacks in the league right now. Joe
Burrow did get to a Super Bowl. Yes, he's been
in two AFC Championship games. Yes, so to me, he's
you know, he's excluded a little, but he's not completely out.
But he's also missed half of a season and then
most of the season two, so he's also been injured.
Justin Harber, he makes over fifty million dollars. He just
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missed most of the last season too. But I don't
hear well injury concerns. If that's gonna be what you're
gonna ride on, you're gonna make a brutal mistake here.
If you're the Miami Dolphins, you have your receivers, you
have your running backs, you're rebuilding the line, you have
great defensive players. You're gonna get Chubb back, You're gonna
get Phillips back. You've moved off from bad contracts and
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players that just didn't have it anymore like Xavion Howard.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You clean it up.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Christian Wilkins didn't want to pay eighty million guaranteed dollars. Hey,
we offered you two contracts. You didn't want them, but
no hard feelings. Go ahead to Vegas with the Raiders
and do your thing. They have a chance here to
lock in their quarterback because Martin, you know as well
as not doing. Anybody listening right now and everybody in
this studio, if you don't have a quarterback in football, guys,
what's your chances? Zero zero? You have zero chance. You
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have to pay this guy and stop playing around with
it now. The reports are and I don't have numbers,
but everything I read and even Dane Jeremiah reported for
NFL dot com that hey.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
They're far apart.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So I gotta know what far is because far could
be four million, far could be ten minute.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I think that I think four million would not be
as far if you're reporting, we don't have the number,
but I'm reading through the lines. I think that far
apart would have to be at least starting at a number,
at least eighteen eight.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm gonna say eight to ten million, right, Okay, All right.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Million, there's got to be some level of middle, right,
you know these are close middle or far to me
far because I mean, if they're offering him thirty five
million dollars in salt, it's just you know what I'm saying,
it's crazy and salty.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's just salty.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So I think if they're coming in somewhere between forty
and forty five, then that's about you know, ten to fifteen.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Apart, That to me is far. Guys, that making the
range of thirty five, just to throw that numberut there.
If you say, if that's what they offer, we don't
have any numbers, but hypothetically speaking, they offer him thirty five.
Baker Mayfield makes thirty three, Derek Carr makes thirty seven,
Aaron Rodgers makes thirty seven. Then it jumps to Daniel
Jones at at forty million dollars. You tell me you
would take all those guys over to all talk of
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all lower right now, including Aaron Rodgers. You would take
all four of those guys over him. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
If you're saying that you don't like the Dolphins or
you don't like two's, and that's fine, You're allowed to
have that but when I look at this list once again,
I'm looking at Kyler Murray at forty six million, Jalen Hurts,
Lamar Jackson fifty one to fifty two, Justin Herbert fifty two.
I think a fair contract for him. And this is
being a lifelong Dolphin fan in a support tour fair
I liked started about forty eight forty nine. I'm not
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expecting him to get fifty five or sixty, but I
do understand his quote was the market is the market.
He was quoted as saying that, so I believe it
was Dane Jrmien. The market is the market. And That's
where I've always gone with this with receiver. Ceedee Lamb
wants to be paid now, Why because Justin Jefferson got.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Paid, Jaylen Watto got paid, AJ Brown got paid. Last year. Guy,
it's it's got to move.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Even though he's only given Dallas one really good, productive.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Upper echelon top flight receiver year in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
We disagree on this one, but Ceedee Lamb has had
more than one good year, but.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
No last year.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I thought he was extraordinary and I knowed the guy
last year, but I can admit he had an extraordinary
season but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
If you get paid off of that.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But the market's the market, and if he's up, you
have to pay the market. This idea that we pick
and choose who we want to pay for the market,
that really gets to me. The Dolphins have to stop
playing around with this. I just wish Mark once again,
I had a number nice search and I can't find
it because of course they're not gonna leak that out.
What are they offering him? That's what I got to
hear before I can make a judgment. All okay to him,
(22:07):
maybe this is on you and your age. Are Are
you serious? Dolphins?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Are you serious? Greer? Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Ross?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
This is what you dire? I wouldn't take that neither.
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
MVP candidate last year all season long played all seventeen games,
which people question he did it, led the league in
passing yards, let the league in two or three Other
top quarterback like what do you?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What do you?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
What?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Else? Always gotta go win?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay, did you guys tell Trevor Lawrence that does Trevor
Lawrence gotta go win?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
He just got paid and his career record is twenty
and thirty.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
He's ten games below five hundred as a start quarterback,
and he's making over fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So don't tell me what a guy's gotta do. That's
that's never how different ways and lowers the list you
had it just up. Do you still have it up? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, I got it right here, all right, burrowcause you
had no no the ones that are in the thirty
five to far, I got you right here. I got
your Baker may favor, Darren Rodgers, Derek Carr, and then
it leaves to forty at Daniel Jones and Daniel Jones.
Any of those four guys you taken on to it
right now? Any of those four guys. That depends how
many how much drugs has Aaron Rodgers done in the
last A minimal amount, you know, because he's doing what
(23:15):
But that just through my point. Are you taking any
of those guys over to a talk about law right now?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Except for Derek Carr? Playoff win? Yeah it does. And
you know what, but once again, and I'm not just
I know you're not. I know I'm not gonna lastend
it four for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
But Aaron Rodgers, you would think play the whole season
is capable of playing the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
But but my thing is, I'm not defending that part
of it. All I'm saying is, Okay, then stay consistent,
because if that's the key, if that's if that's the barometer,
justin Herbert hasn't won a playoff game and he makes
over fifty million dollars and he missed most of last year.
My thing is, just stay consistent and say it across
the board. Don't don't please, don't give me the flip
(23:59):
flam and fluff of going up and down depending upon
who we're talking about. That's my problem. That's why I
go with, Hey, the market is the market. You can
say what you want to say about the guy, but
if you run the risk of letting him play out
this contract, let's just say Martin twelve, let's.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Just say twelve and five, all right, twelve and five
win the division.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I think twelve and five wins the AFC East, whether
it's gonna be them or the Bills. Twelve and five
wins the AFC East, you get a whole wild card game.
Win that game, gets a division game, all right, and
you lose, and he goes, listen, I played all seventeen again.
I got a playoff win, our first since two thousand,
the longest running team I believe in the NFL now
from their last playoff win. I believe it's my beloved
Miami office Detroit one here because Detroit won there. So
(24:42):
they're off of it now. So now we got that
off the schnide. We got that out of the record,
and now you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
go test free agency.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm gonna go tell I'm gonna know, I'm gonna go toe.
I can do that. I'm a free agent.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I'm gonna go test free agency and see what else
is out there. There will be teams in a world
where Kirk.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Cousins at thirty six years old, off of a rupture
to kill, he's got one hundred million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I think one hundred and twenty over the last four years.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
What do you think that a tu a tongue of
ollver could pull down on the open market.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
He definitely would be over fifty definitely, if I'm hypothetically,
if he has this type of year, game seventeen games,
top MVP, a candidate again leading the league and again
now it's back to back years. Absolutely, one of these
teams struggling looking for a quarterback, one of these bottom dwellers,
struggling looking for a quarterback with a lot of cap room. Absolutely, he'll,
(25:33):
he'll definitely would get fifty million. Anybody that doesn't believe that,
you're trust me, you're killing yourself. But once again, I'm
speaking of a hypothetical twenty twenty four. Now, if he
goes to the twenty twenty four and he craps to
bed all bets off the table, all bets off the table.
Oh dude, I'm gonna give it to you real, all
bets off the table. But if he goes and Miami's
in the playoffs again, that's three straight years, play to
the playoffs, three straight years. And if they somehow want
(25:55):
again win the division, so they get a home wildcard
game and they win a wildcard game. Okay, now they
get a wildcard game at home and they lose that
wildcard game. All right, this on you tour now. Now
the front office has a way to back out and go, hey, yes, yeah,
got us to the playoffs again, buddy. But ah, is
he the guy? The narrative would be God, is he
the guy that take Miami over. We get we'll get that,
(26:17):
We'll get that type of narrative. So it's in his hands.
I just think the Dolphins are playing a very very
bad game. A chicken right now, Jacobey Rossett mix more
than at the quarterback position right now for the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Then two a tako wa loo.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, I mean he's The question is not should he be?
Should he be? In extension talks, The question is at
how much?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
So obviously he needs to get a raise forty forty eight.
It's got to start at for it's got to start
at forty eight. It's got to start at forty eight.
Deshaun Watson forty six, Kirk Cousins forty five, Kyler Murray.
Nobody likes Kylier. You guys die out there, you guys
don't big him up. Forty six million. Jalen Hurts who
I love, Lamar Jackson, who I love, and then Justin
Jared Goff, Trevor Burrow, Oh goodness, dude, all good quarterbacks.
(27:01):
But come on, man, I'm looking at under fifty. Jalen
Hurts is at forty as that fifty one. Kyler's at
forty six. He can't get Coller, he can't get more
than Kyler Murray. But I think that is that's a
wide gap. What did we say?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Ten million? We determined you're right.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's why I know, you know, did Jalen hurts of
her idiot?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
He went to a super Bowl? It's hard?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, yes, it's basically when you see them MVP, you
can't a deal like what Trevor Lawrence has. They are
betting on the potential, right, they're betting on the potential.
They like, look, you had the had Urban Meyer year one. Yeah,
you know, we're building something here, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Whatever. That that's how Jacksonville talks himself into it. Last
year he got hurt, so then they kind of fell off. Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Very similar to when Derek Carr was on his rookie deal.
The Raiders talked themselves and okay, let's just go ahead,
lock this up, and you know if for better or
for worse, they had a quarterback for a decade. Yep,
you know, they had a quarterback for a decade. That's
what they're betting on. The had the MVP season.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
He broke his ankle in Week thirteen. He can't. That's
you know, I wonder to get help that I wonder.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
If that's they just think, this to me is a
tastic kind of like yo to we don't know if
you're that guy?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
All right, well, okay, and I once again I get
that part of it. But that's a dangerous game of
chicken in the NFL at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
If you you.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Gotta lock a guy. So if he leaves, so say
they don't pay him it, who leaves? What do we do?
You're stuck back to the beginning. You're stuck back drafting
a guy. You're set back another three to five seasons.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You think Tyreek's gonna like that.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
You think some of these other veterans, the guys that
are kind of end of Jalen Ramsey, you think he's
gonna want to be want to stay there knowing that, oh,
well we're rebuilding again. Well, Mike mcdaie'll be fired to
next year.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
There's there's a couple teams that have not had too
much trouble drafting quarterbacks. We'll ask who can stop this
one kind of got lucky in the draft in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
In the NFC.
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Unless someone either Lebron Senior or JJ Redick adjust their
egos making consideringly the smaller throughout the course of the season,
the Lakers will be lucky to win ten games in
the season twenty twenty four to twenty five.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Ten ten games completely, that's what he said.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Worse than the Pistons, worse than the Spurs, worse than
the Hornets of last year, ten games for the Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Like I love the guy because we tweet all the time.
He's a great fan of Fox Sports Radio, but that
one not I think he might have been being a
little I think he might have been just exaggerated, not ten,
not ten wins. This feeling though that they could miss
the playoffs some way. So how if this thing just
falls apart, I'm hinging just everything on. You tell me
(31:05):
that they're going seventy six excuse me, seventy six and
seventy one ad Lebron as far as games played, you're
telling me they're gonna duplicate that again. I would take
the under on that, and then that's gonna affect the win.
So they won forty seven games, guys, and they needed
seventy six, won forty seven games that we're in the playing,
but we're going to play exactly. We're in the playing
(31:26):
with forty seven wins, you're telling me they win fifty
and more with this team. The team is not better
teams older teams got a little you know, it's not better.
I don't know if they got worse. I just know
they didn't get better. No one's running around like, oh man,
look at the moves that the Lakers may know. It's
been all about drafting Brownie James and a JJ Redmill.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So part of the reasons why it's been all about
draft the draft is they've made no moves Yeah, there's
been no moves to talk about, like quite literally, they
have made zero moves besides their own players opting in,
which I'll let you know a little secret America, that's
not the most positive scenario because you opt in when
you don't have a market elsewhere. That's why you opted
(32:04):
to take the deal that's already on the table. So
that means of the three players of the Lakers that
opted in, they probably didn't have anywhere else to go.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah. Absolutely, But it's like I said, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I they be looking to win forty I like forty
forty one wins, and I think that's being very objective
and very fair for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Deep Patone says, the West goes through Dallas again, great addition,
adding Klay Thompson the one more shooter they needed to
compliment Luca and Kyrie. I just wonder how that looks
on the defensive side of things.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Do you like the Grimes edition there also too? I
think he needs to work there because they need.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Somebody because if he can go and be the guy
he was before his knee injury, which is the reason
why he was available really in the first place. Absolutely,
he's got to because somebody has got to play some defense. Yeah,
I think Luca may Well, here's my even thing with
Luca's far defensive and just playing period, I'm a I'm
(33:01):
all for playing for your country. If I were him,
I might have I mighta I might have sat this
one out. I think he needs some rest, I really do.
And he's not gonna get healthier by running through They
just lost, right, and you know they're tune up going
into the Olympics and the terms they're playing out there,
and he's playing back home for his home country. I'm
all for playing for your own country. I just do
(33:22):
think that at some point you're gonna have another opportunity
to do. He's still young enough, Luca could play in
the next Olympics. He'll be just fine.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I just think with the injuries and the guy pretty
much dragging his body to the finish line, to flip
right around and then go play for your country, go
playing the Olympics, I'm not sure I like that. So
I'm not sure how that's going to effect going into
next week. Maybe he gets rest after the Olympics, he's
got two months off, and you know, maybe doesn't do
a lot training camp that do a lot in preseason,
(33:51):
just getting ready for the season. Maybe he's at that
point already at a ripe age of what twenty five, twenty.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Six years old at the most, God to me is
the number one thing he has to do is getting
better shape.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, we're playing coming off of injuries and that's not
gonna help. That's why I said I would like him
to sit this one out. Man, no one's gonna no
one's gonna rip him if he didn't play for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
You don't think the what is the Croatia Slavenia Slavinia?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You think the Slovenia sports ark radio hoster.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Like giving it as all we should have tried harder
and Niros twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
No, this basketball team isn't doing it. Yeah, right, and
there they'll combine it all too with a with a
cop that doesn't sound like a Slovenian accent.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Martin. I have zero idea what a Slovenian actions sounds
like me, and neither I'm not even gonna go there.
I do think it was pretty cool that he tells
the story where he's here playing the Lakers and someone's
trash talking him in his day of language.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
He turns around and looks and it's Kobe Bryant. It's
one of the best Kobe stories from a player. That man,
one of that man is a treasure. Oh Man still
miss him to this day. College football expansion, Baby, this
is it.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
We're here, Martin.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
No, it went from from two teams and the BCS
four teams a short while ago. Before that polls, before
BCS wasn't even two teams. Whoever got voter got voted,
he ever got voted, And now a twelve team playoff,
which I mean, it's too much. They just missed the boat. Yep,
they missed the boat. And now all right, pee to
(35:16):
the PAC twelve. The Big ten looks like I mean,
just the list of teams looks like the Western Conference,
That's what it is. He looks like the Eastern Conference.
And that's very much where we're headed soon, like it'll
be that to college conferences. The way to do this
division quick we'll talk about the actual playoffs, but just
(35:36):
what they should have done, what was obvious and clear,
what should have been the case. All five Power five
teams conference champions automatic bid into the postseason three at large.
There you go eight teams, winning your conference still matters
because that was the Pac Tolls problem.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
It's like, we could go undefeated and win this to
y'all still leave us out Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Also two and past years what ACC is year Florida
State went undefeated. ACC won the conference. Couldn't get it?
Oh because the quarterback got hurt. Okay, but but that
so that he races going undefeated. Now we now we're
looking for well if the quarterbacks that doesn't matter. Does
that does not matter? They won, They went undefeated and won.
You and I always talked about eight because you know
(36:19):
what else happens with eight that we get probably another
Michigan Ohio State rematch.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You you probably agree with that.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Right if if all, if we had eight teams, they're
gonna play again because they're always one and two or
one in three.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Think whoever didn't win the conference would probably still have
the inside track on being one of the at large.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Which probably I believe should have it because they let
it happen for the SEC all the time. Teams that
don't win the SEC somehow getting to the the get
it to the college fall club.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Until this year, and.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I thought Georgia falling from one completely.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Out Georgia would have been at large team. Yes, absolutely, but.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Just even with the far they've they've won their last
twenty something plus games that they slip up on one
Saturday afternoon to Nick Saban, and they wanted Nick Saban
in because of course we you know, we felt it
was coming down to the end of the track.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
For Nick Saban.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
But twelve feels like, ah man, if it feels so
over so overdone. We know this is about money. We
noticed about TV contracts and sponsorships and autis. I don't
have a problem with It's just American business. If you're
complaining about that, you'll be complain about that till you're
not and it's not gonna change. But now I'm thinking,
if you can lose how many losses knocks you right,
(37:28):
two losses probably still get you in for.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
A twelve team playoff. Yeah, I think depending on your
strength to schedule, you might be able.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
To lose three, especially if you're a top well it
would have to be hate dependent on the SEC. But
if the three loss team gets in, it's gonna be
an SEC well because I are.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
The If you go undefeated and lose to the number
two ranked team in the nation. I was just said,
the number one rate team in the nation, the number
three ranked team in the nation, the number fifth rand
team in the nation. Then like they're gonna be like, well,
they just couldn't beat the teams in front of them. Yeah,
that's gonna.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Be the absolutely now with also two of the upcoming season.
A few teams I like to look at Man I
think Michigan of course, defending champions I know, hardball f
and they did lose some guys, a lot of guys,
drafted a lot of guys at the combine. But once again,
when you really put this team into perspective and what's
on the field, there is a ton of talent on
(38:25):
this team. They have a top ten rated offensive line,
they have a top ten rated defensive line. They probably
have the best defensive linemen. And Grant Mason, who if
he came out there, if you could have came out
this year, he'd have been a top ten pick. He's
that good in the twitches. I think the offensive side
of the ball with Samar, with Samar and the speed
guys that they're adding, the young freshmen and sophomores from
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the last two years. The talk has been Hey, these
guys are a different breed. We may not be able
to pound like Blake Korn because I don't. I don't
think Donovan Edwards is. I don't think he's the next back.
I thought he was a great fill in guy for
Blake Korm. He doesn't strike me as the next a train,
the next Tyrone Wheatley, the next to Shamanka, to Shamunga Biakabatuca. Yeah,
(39:10):
to Shamungo Biakabatuca. He doesn't strike me as that guy.
But he could be Chris Perry. You remember Chris Perry.
He could be Tussaint. You remember college. There you go,
but productive back right, productive back. But he wasn't Mike Hart,
he wasn't Blake Krn. He knows guy, there's there's these
levels and tiers of running back. I don't know if
(39:31):
he's that, but I think defense number one is still
a top five defense in the nation. It's the same
coach as same program. You didn't you lost your coach,
but you didn't have to turn over. It's not Alabama, right,
Saban walks out the door. Everybody walks out the door.
They lose their best true freshman Caleb Downs, he transfers
to Ohio State. So Michigan, I hate to admit it.
Ohio State, though, is going to be very very very
(39:53):
very very very good.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
This year.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
They bought back everybody. They've sold the house. They pushed
all their chips to the middle of table.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Martin. This is the year to save Day's job.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Everybody came back a burning in Columbus.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yes, and they have to go undefeated. They have to
go undefeated their first loss.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
The only slip up on their calendar I see is,
of course Michigan. They're gonna lose to us. There will
be four years in a row. But they go to
Oregon in September, and Oregon's gonna be breaking in a
transferred quarterback. So it's not a new quarterbacks. The quarterback
that's played Oregon just actually they just signed they just
got a commitment from the number one rank receiver in
the nation the class twenty twenty five, So the number kid, yes,
the number three overall player who turned down Michigan and
(40:36):
basically all the other big boys to go to Oregon.
So the train keeps turning up there if you get
them up to Orgon. I've been to Oregon to a
game and call the game. When you go up there, guys,
you can see why kids shake their head and go, yeah,
I want to come here.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But they do. Man, they have all the weapons. Their
question is going to be quarterback.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Much like Michigan with alex Orgy Texas Longhorns, they were
right there. I thought they could have beaten Washington, but
I think Washington just was on a path and they
didn't have a defense. Corners were just getting killed. That
showed the difference in the Michigan game National Championship game.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Georgia also too. I think people are discounting Georgia. They
have one loss in the last two three years.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
One loss.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, this Georgia team is still going to be solidified.
I like the final four. If I'm just way too
early in Michigan, Georgia, Texas uh in Ohio State. To me,
we're gonna end up being the last four teams out
of the twelve once we get to the Semis.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
It's just too much, just too much like the I
just hate teams is way too much.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Just headed out.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
They've done this because you know it's still gonna happen
to the teams like U see, I still gonna get
left out.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Now, if that happens, If that happens, I call shenanigans.
If that happens, if you start to have like what
happens if a MAC team goes undefeated, you because eventually
you're gonna move up the ranks. You're gonna be ranked,
You're gonna move up the polls. Teams are gonna lose,
they're gonna fall, and you're and you're you're crossing your fingers.
(42:00):
I remember the year when Florida State played the national
championship game. Marshall also went undefeated, but Florida State played
Virginia Tech instead of Marshall. Now, Marshall had Randy mosson
That's pretty much Randy Molson. Chadpiinontson was the reason why
Marshall was so good. That shows you Randy Moss was
a single handedly reason why he was a finalist in
(42:21):
the Heisman that year was him, Charles Woodson, Peyton Mann
and Ryan Leaf and Randy Moss. That's how great Randy
Moss was. But if you have a mid major so
called mid major mid major, but you have a MAC
team going defeed it eventually they're gonna move up the polls.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Do you purposely, Oh do you purposely keep them out
of the top twelve undefeated?
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Guys? That what you're kinda by talking about the Central
Florida type things, that what you're kind of predicted.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
If you're not a big boy, you can't come to
this party.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We don't care how many games we've proven the big
boys can get left out.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Florida State again last.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Year, Well, I mean, I hope not, but I also
am realistic, and I think it would have been a
lot of It would have been a lot better if
you were guaranteeing some playoff spots in order to go
ahead and just knock some of those teams off the list.
Like the college basketball tournament, for example, some teams are
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just guaranteed and if you win your conference tournament, you're
in period. Stop, do not pass, go, do not collect
two hundred dollars. I think that college football could take
a look at that h and probably draft off of it,
because I think it would help them quite a bit because.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
There's just not twelve.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
There's just not twelve teams that could legitimately win the national.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Championship, and there's not sixty four that could are sixty
eight or whatever. That can legitly win the college basketball
championship either.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
True, but it's a different, different game. You get the
we're not gonna like a twelves, not beating a one.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Martin, Yeah, but that's do we now have that? It's
not beating the two?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Do we now have like the ten seeds Cinderella Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Cowboys to be ten, three three? This hypothetically? You know this?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Hey that nine to four matchup, Hey, hey, that nine
four matchup the last two out of five years.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Oh well, hard to complain about. More football coming up next,
we'll dive into more football. Who do we think will
be the best player at the end of the season.
Martin Wisse's VJ Husky in for Scott I'm Sorry in
for Jason Smith and Mike harmon Fox Sports Radio.
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, that's right, your favorite Saturday evening show slid over
to a little Friday Night. Although I'll tell you what, VJ,
this is the most Saturday is feeling Friday that it
ever existed.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The minute you just said Friday night, my mind went,
it's Friday. It just didn't feel like it with the
holiday being on the on a Thursday. And as I've
said many times on the air, when you become a
parent man, honestly, and you're like you're in your parent
mode every day, you just know kind of numbers. You
really don't know when it's Monday Tuesday, when you just know, Okay,
we gotta do this on the thirteenth, we gotta do
(00:36):
this one.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
It's so I've definitely lost check. Wow, it does feel
like Saturday this morning, and I was like, wait a minute,
I have to work.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's all right, What is this show doing on it?
What is this show doing on it Saturday? Well, that's
the fact it's not. We will be doing this exact
same thing Saturday, just about this exact same time. If
you're interested in what you'd like to hear, you can
hear more of it. But VJA, let's go ahead and
get started with your favorite clown show of a franchise,
as you like to call it.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't know if you actually have called I've never
I've never said that.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I have been blessed to cover this team, So I've
never said that, but I feel you it's.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
A general sentiment from my left though.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'll go ahead and go out and live and say
I'm speaking for you in that moment.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh, okay, thanks a lot. I appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, just stay tuned for the next ten minutes and
you'll see where I'm coming from. JJ Reddick into Lebron
James Junior introductory press conference. There was also Dalton connect here,
though you would have never known, uh, just based off
the questions.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I knew he was the one that was dressed like
he was doing his first introductory press conference.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The only problem, the only problem that I had with
with the introductory press conference. And then I'll let you
go ahead and take it from here. I did not
like the fact that Savannah was there. We're at work now,
We're at work. Now, stay home.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Mom watching Martin. You you know he's power before you
can get in trouble, buddy, watch it. Yeah, this thing, man,
I thought that this thing couldn't get any worse. I read, No,
I did. It's until the ball tips in October. Until
the balltips that I told her, and you know me,
my ears to the ground.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I listened to a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I don't watch so much as far as TV shows,
but a lot of reading, a lot of scrolling and
clicking on different you know, journalists that I like and trust,
are different clips from guys speaking on TV.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And this thing is going.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
To They might not make the playoffs just as fast
as a year ago when they so called one the
off season. That was the narrative through a lot of
the national sports media that the Lakers had won the
off season. And we just continue to do this because
there's such a stranglehold that Lebron has as far as
(02:46):
the attention wherever he is, that they get a few
things that JJ said during this press conference that I
just thought wasn't needed, Like I think I have a
different kind of opinion on what he was saying about
Bronni and that he wasn't given anything and that it
was earn at this point. He's so smart, he's such
a duchie. He's so smart, you're not making you're not
(03:07):
winning any points. At this point. With that, I would
abandon that all together. I turned into Bill Belichick. We're
just getting ready for summer League. We're getting Brownie ready
for summer League. We're getting Bronnie And people would just
get tired of asking it. But the fact that he
is so open, well the.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Thing, here's the thing said a smart moved nothing to
cut you off. But nobody asked him.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
No, nobody asked that was something he just volunteered on
his own. Like nobody was like, do you think that
Bronnie James didn't earn this spot? If that had been
the question, then the response makes sense. But the question
is like, how is Bronnie James going to integrate your offense?
And you go, he earned this?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
How dare you?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But you know what, this is part of the problem
with JJ Reddick is because he is a very online person. Absolutely,
so this like that is not a response from the
reporters that were there. That was a response to the Internet,
to the stuff that he's reading. He I tell you this, man,
he is falling faster than I thought he would just
by opening his mouth at this point. There's always something
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about the guys. They think they're the smartest in the room.
I don't mind being corrected. I don't mind being told
I'm wrong, Then teach me I don't. No one knows everything,
but when you act like you know everything, it's just
it gets really, really irritating.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And then it becomes like and like you said, it
becomes a circus, it becomes a clown show. And we'll
get into a free agency a little deeper. But there
is a reason I wasn't on this boat. A few
weeks ago, our good friend Aaron Torres said about Dan
Hurley not taking a job. He told me to my
vace VJ, it's not the job you think it is,
and I'm going there.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm like, dude, it's the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's the most known franchise in basketball in the world,
right there with the Yankees. As far as all world clubs,
Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The Lakers fit that they fall.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Into their I'm starting to backtrack and believe he and
a lot of other people were right. And that's how
you end up with a guy like JJ Reddick who
feels like he has to say these things more to
like prove something, and it lets us know that the
negative stuff that's being said, whether it's right or not,
but it's true. Like the stuff people are saying, it
(05:13):
is true. You guarantee fifty fifth pick, guaranteed four year contract.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, that's pretty standard if you look, if you look
at other fifty fIF if you look at other second
round picks, they either on two way contracts or that
deal which is three years, and it basically it's the
eight million sounds like a lot, but it really locks
you with.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
At the league minimum.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So what it does is it protects teams from uh,
it protects teams because those players then will basically never
reach unrestricted free agency.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
You know what you said, that's so great just now,
and I still don't care.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I don't like I mean, but it's the same deal
like Jokic got, if you adjust for the salaries at
the time, it's the same deal that Chris Livingston.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Got, the last guy who was picked.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
But there was also there was also a list of
I don't know how many it was, but it was
four fifty fifth picks recently. I'm not sure if it
was the last five years or five ANDUS six where
I believe if not all of them. Most of them
were two way contract. I think maybe one was a
two year deal. No, but that's what in the second round.
You either sign a two way deal basically, or you
signed this. That's not the point I want to. The
(06:11):
point I'm making is we know why he got the
four year guaranteed contract. You don't have to Yeah, okay,
yeah right, his dad he is and his dad is
a great age.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I would always salute him to that.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But stop stop peeing on our face and telling us
as raining like we understand what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I just think that they would.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Be better served to leave stuff alone that they want
to talk about and make it a soap proper and
just move forward, because I think it's the wolves that's
not going to send the wolves away.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
They're gonna keep coming.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
If you said because in the introductory press conference you
said he earned it, Okay, where's the production now? We
want to see the production because you said he earned it,
he wasn't given, you know, an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
He earned.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
His opportunity was giving nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I just think JJ and the Lakers would do themselves
a big, big advantage if they stop talking and just
go in the summer league and go into Bill Belichick mode.
Answer as simple as you can, and keep it moving
because this is all going to start once the season starts.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well, for me, the biggest concern that I have.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
With it is is, uh, you know, moving on from
the whole, you know, the actual act of drafting Briannie James, right,
I think it, you know, maybe just maybe there's not
it's not crazy to think that, you know, they actually
like his game.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
On top of.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
People don't care. At this point, it's gone away. It's
gone with that. Yeah, it's gone away. But this is
the to me. J. J.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Reddick now is zero for two in public press conferences
by just answering the questions that are asked.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I saw what you I saw the clip you and
Broussard on the couple when you filled in.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I watched the entire clip. I saw what you said
about that.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, like you said about to me, that he's using
swearing in the first one to try to project confidence,
to try to show like, yeah, I've got this in
the bag.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's cool to do.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I can swear because I don't Yeah, I don't care
what everybody else has to say about me.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm freaking JJ Reddick. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right, like all right, cool, you got it, dude, like awesome,
like you know, then there's really that's how he projects
himself though.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But that's what So I didn't love it. I didn't
love it. I thought it was kind of lame personally.
I think, like I was with you on your job is.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Just to like enter, you know, you not have to
answer to these people who are on the timeline. They're
on the timeline, right, They're not in the locker room
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
If Genie bus comes in with, hey.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
JJ, this is what they're tweeting about you, then maybe
I'll have a conversation with Genie about it. Right, maybe
I'll have a conversation with Rob Polinka, the one that
comes in and says, hey, do you know fire JJ
is trending right now?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It's like, then I'll have the conversation with Rob. Right,
but this is the second time.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So he did that right, kind of answering the Twitter
to Twitter trolls that he had seen the whole.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
What you admitted to I know I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So then again in this press conf's he again responds
to the Twitter folks that are saying Brianni James didn't
earn this blazza blah, because you don't have to say
any of that, especially when it's not a question that's asked. Right,
So then to me, now, what happens when the Lakers
start out and there's seven and ten through the first
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seventeen games, and the timeline is saying, you gotta make
this coaching decision, you gotta pull this guy out. Like like,
for example, last year when Darvin ham was running the team,
every every single person with a Kobe Bryant, Abbey Avatar
or Lebron James sixth Avatar was on their Twitter was saying.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You gotta take Toria Prince out of this line up.
You know, I mean, what are you doing playing Torria Prince?
Can't you see?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Like? And they come in at Darvin Ham. So what
happens when that happens to JJ Reddick Because Darvin Hampton
this kind of didn't say, you know, social media told
me any of the Vegetorian Prince is JJ gonna say
seven seven team games in when they're seven to ten,
the twenty twenty four to twenty five equivalent of I'm
not and I'm not benching Dory Torean princis quit asking
me about it when nobody asked him about it, like, how.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Much is this social gimy?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It does?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But how much of the social.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Media is going to permeate his daily decisions because you
see people like that, There are people out there in
the world who let Twitter and Instagram determine what they do.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Right, how much of that is going to seep in to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
JJ Reddick's day in, day out operation of the Los
Angeles like.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It will because Lebron is very active on Twitter and
social media. You know what's so surprising about this tandem?
Or you know threeho You know there's there's three team.
They got to got JJ, you got Ad, and you
got Lebron.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Ad is the quietest guy out of all of this.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
He he he strikes me as a guy who truly
just wants to play ball.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
He don't care about nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Since when he's been in LA, when has anything ever
been said about him off the court?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
What big story?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
When we run into our microphones, plugging in our earphones
and waiting for the red light to come on to
start talking about.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Did you see what Ad did? He this?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
This is the guy who's like, I'm hurt a game,
Yeah hurt, But.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, that's is seventy six.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
He played seventy six last year, Lebron plays seventy one
or reverse either or one play seventy six the other
one plays seventy.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean it's front pace news when they both played
over seventy exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
But this coming season, JJ, to be honest with you,
he's protected. I'm not worried about him. The guy I'm
worried about the most in all of this because we
know they tried to trade him or they took trade
calls and office for him last year leading into the
deadline with led into him showing that he wears his
emotions on his sleeve all the way back to New
Orleans the night Lebron breaks the record. You know, Lebron's
(11:45):
got to make sure he puts his arm on and
say you know I love you right like where like why?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Why? Where's that coming from?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I know you're supposed already let me know they were
trying to move him. Possibly. A D is the guy
who's the next pen to fall out of all of this.
As soon as stuff starts go wrong, trust me, it
will be because of A D. And either him or
Perlinka those are the next two because apparently Polika can't
land anybody, which I don't get how people say that
(12:11):
instead of just saying maybe just the luster is off
the Lakers, the luster of playing with Lebron is off, and.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The jig is up. People see it for what it is,
and this is something I don't know exactly what that means.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
But what I do know is that I'll break it
down later on the show if you want me so,
I can definitely tell you why the Laker the luster
is off the Lakers off of Lebron.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Well, the thing is, for a.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Solid decade, if you played with Lebron, you were going
to the NBA finals or at least the conference finals
for like a solid decade.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's not true this Lakers. No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But also when you were playing Lebron over the last decade,
your career got changed. By the way, as we're talking
about social media, TV debate shows people that will beat
and beat and beat your name down when you don't win,
you can get there. I do completely, I do completely,
but but I feel you. But this the introductory press conference,
man to put a ball on it just another kind
(13:06):
of like, wow, you guys should just stop talking and
just just go because everybody's gonna want to see what's
up with Brownie. Went Summer League and then going into
training camp, and we saw hes he getting the preseason games.
It's all gonna you got to go in to South Bay.
I got him suiting up and sitting on the bitch
open at night. There's no way Lebron is sating his
son to South Back.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, he's definitely going to South Bay, but he'll be
on the bench opening night because there is no g
League opening night of the the league starts like a month,
a month and a half after the NBA.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Regular Yeah, I think he gonna be on that bench
a lot for the Lakers this year, a lot he needs.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Why we'll talk about this in a moment coming up next,
the end of a dynasty?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What does it mean? Who's to blame?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
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ahead of you, my friend. I think I might.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I'mna still hold out some hope and some faith, but
I think I might because I don't like.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
The way being about to say.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Because while we're sitting in for Jay, it's just fit
that his best friend, Vick Harmon, vj's best friend quarterback
may not be sitting in Miami very much longer. Ooh so.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
My guy, ooh yeah, this thing's getting it's getting a
little it's getting a little out of hand. This deal
should have been done, whether people. I don't care about
the fans and Twitter, and I'm going by what's been happening.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I go by when it comes to the NFL contracts.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You're never gonna lock me into an argument of what
a guy doesn't deserve unless it's something that's astronomically to
the left or astronomically to the right. Like Daniel Jones
who's getting forty million dollars and as a season high
of fifteen touchdown passes in his career and missed the
majority of last season being hurt. He's making forty million dollars.
(16:52):
This would be his last year with the Giants. Don't
move on. They'll do some other things for the football
New York Giants.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But what sounds like especially, we'll talk about that coming
up that little bit. Yes, sure, it sure sounds like
it from what we've seen behind the scene.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, that was a small, small, little uh tease there.
We call in the radio.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But what the Dolphins are are bumbling with with this
contract with Tour. They're treading water and being in the
San Diego Charger position. When Drew Brees hurt his shoulder,
now you got Philip Rivers out of the deal. That
that that makes that decision go away real fast.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
What we talk about. That's like buying a lottery ticket
to plan for your retirement.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, there you go. But the talk of the whole
Drew Brees dislocated his shoulder, scoring a touchdown on the
goal line, stretching the ball out at his size, wanting
to score, wanting to win for the Gipper. That that
that that old rudy sports attitude.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
We saw that out of Drew Brees.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
But then Nick Saban, who now says, oh, well, if
we got the quarterback I wanted. You were part of
the decision too, that thought, Dante, You trusted Dante Colpepper's
knee over Drew Brees's shoulder, and that would have changed
the franchise. It's the one we had a shot at
after Marino to change the franchise, and we blew it
played in simple whoever's decision it was, it was a
(18:08):
blown decision.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Period.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
You have a chance now for whatever, I don't care
what the talking show says or with the.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Fans in Twitter and all that says. Put the tape on.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
If you want to try to talk to me about
injury reports, I can tell you the injuries of all
the top paid quarterbacks in the league right now. Joe
Burrow did get to a Super Bowl. Yes, he's been
in two AFC Championship games. Yes, so to me, he's
you know, he's excluded a little, but he's not completely out.
But he's also missed half of a season and then
most of the season two, so he's also been injured.
Justin Harber, he makes over fifty million dollars. He just
(18:40):
missed most of the last season too. But I don't
hear well injury concerns. If that's gonna be what you're
gonna ride on, you're gonna make a brutal mistake here.
If you're the Miami Dolphins, you have your receivers, you
have your running backs, you're rebuilding the line, you have
great defensive players. You're gonna get Chubb back, You're gonna
get Phillips back. You've moved off from bad contracts and
(19:01):
players that just didn't have it anymore like Xavion Howard.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You clean it up.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Christian Wilkins didn't want to pay eighty million guaranteed dollars. Hey,
we offered you two contracts. You didn't want them, but
no hard feelings. Go ahead to Vegas with the Raiders
and do your thing. They have a chance here to
lock in their quarterback because Martin, you know as well
as not doing. Anybody listening right now and everybody in
this studio, if you don't have a quarterback in football, guys,
what's your chances? Zero zero? You have zero chance. You
(19:24):
have to pay this guy and stop playing around with
it now. The reports are and I don't have numbers,
but everything I read and even Dane Jeremiah reported for
NFL dot com that hey.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
They're far apart.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So I gotta know what far is because far could
be four million, far could be ten minute.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I think that I think four million would not be
as far if you're reporting, we don't have the number,
but I'm reading through the lines. I think that far
apart would have to be at least starting at a number,
at least eighteen eight.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm gonna say eight to ten million, right, Okay, All right.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Million, there's got to be some level of middle, right,
you know these are close middle or far to me
far because I mean, if they're offering him thirty five
million dollars in salt, it's just you know what I'm saying,
it's crazy and salty.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's just salty.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So I think if they're coming in somewhere between forty
and forty five, then that's about you know, ten to fifteen.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Apart, That to me is far. Guys, that making the
range of thirty five, just to throw that numberut there.
If you say, if that's what they offer, we don't
have any numbers, but hypothetically speaking, they offer him thirty five.
Baker Mayfield makes thirty three, Derek Carr makes thirty seven,
Aaron Rodgers makes thirty seven. Then it jumps to Daniel
Jones at at forty million dollars. You tell me you
would take all those guys over to all talk of
(20:37):
all lower right now, including Aaron Rodgers. You would take
all four of those guys over him. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
If you're saying that you don't like the Dolphins or
you don't like two's, and that's fine, You're allowed to
have that but when I look at this list once again,
I'm looking at Kyler Murray at forty six million, Jalen Hurts,
Lamar Jackson fifty one to fifty two, Justin Herbert fifty two.
I think a fair contract for him. And this is
being a lifelong Dolphin fan in a support tour fair
I liked started about forty eight forty nine. I'm not
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expecting him to get fifty five or sixty, but I
do understand his quote was the market is the market.
He was quoted as saying that, so I believe it
was Dane Jrmien. The market is the market. And That's
where I've always gone with this with receiver. Ceedee Lamb
wants to be paid now, Why because Justin Jefferson got.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Paid, Jaylen Watto got paid, AJ Brown got paid. Last year. Guy,
it's it's got to move.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Even though he's only given Dallas one really good, productive.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Upper echelon top flight receiver year in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
We disagree on this one, but Ceedee Lamb has had
more than one good year, but.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
No last year.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I thought he was extraordinary and I knowed the guy
last year, but I can admit he had an extraordinary
season but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
If you get paid off of that.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But the market's the market, and if he's up, you
have to pay the market. This idea that we pick
and choose who we want to pay for the market,
that really gets to me. The Dolphins have to stop
playing around with this. I just wish Mark once again,
I had a number nice search and I can't find
it because of course they're not gonna leak that out.
What are they offering him? That's what I got to
hear before I can make a judgment. All okay to him,
(22:07):
maybe this is on you and your age. Are Are
you serious? Dolphins?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Are you serious? Greer? Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Ross?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
This is what you dire? I wouldn't take that neither.
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
MVP candidate last year all season long played all seventeen games,
which people question he did it, led the league in
passing yards, let the league in two or three Other
top quarterback like what do you?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What do you?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
What?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Else? Always gotta go win?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay, did you guys tell Trevor Lawrence that does Trevor
Lawrence gotta go win?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
He just got paid and his career record is twenty
and thirty.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
He's ten games below five hundred as a start quarterback,
and he's making over fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So don't tell me what a guy's gotta do. That's
that's never how different ways and lowers the list you
had it just up. Do you still have it up? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, I got it right here, all right, burrowcause you
had no no the ones that are in the thirty
five to far, I got you right here. I got
your Baker may favor, Darren Rodgers, Derek Carr, and then
it leaves to forty at Daniel Jones and Daniel Jones.
Any of those four guys you taken on to it
right now? Any of those four guys. That depends how
many how much drugs has Aaron Rodgers done in the
last A minimal amount, you know, because he's doing what
(23:15):
But that just through my point. Are you taking any
of those guys over to a talk about law right now?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Except for Derek Carr? Playoff win? Yeah it does. And
you know what, but once again, and I'm not just
I know you're not. I know I'm not gonna lastend
it four for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
But Aaron Rodgers, you would think play the whole season
is capable of playing the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
But but my thing is, I'm not defending that part
of it. All I'm saying is, Okay, then stay consistent,
because if that's the key, if that's if that's the barometer,
justin Herbert hasn't won a playoff game and he makes
over fifty million dollars and he missed most of last year.
My thing is, just stay consistent and say it across
the board. Don't don't please, don't give me the flip
(23:59):
flam and fluff of going up and down depending upon
who we're talking about. That's my problem. That's why I
go with, Hey, the market is the market. You can
say what you want to say about the guy, but
if you run the risk of letting him play out
this contract, let's just say Martin twelve, let's.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Just say twelve and five, all right, twelve and five
win the division.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I think twelve and five wins the AFC East, whether
it's gonna be them or the Bills. Twelve and five
wins the AFC East, you get a whole wild card game.
Win that game, gets a division game, all right, and
you lose, and he goes, listen, I played all seventeen again.
I got a playoff win, our first since two thousand,
the longest running team I believe in the NFL now
from their last playoff win. I believe it's my beloved
Miami office Detroit one here because Detroit won there. So
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they're off of it now. So now we got that
off the schnide. We got that out of the record,
and now you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
go test free agency.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm gonna go tell I'm gonna know, I'm gonna go toe.
I can do that. I'm a free agent.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I'm gonna go test free agency and see what else
is out there. There will be teams in a world
where Kirk.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Cousins at thirty six years old, off of a rupture
to kill, he's got one hundred million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I think one hundred and twenty over the last four years.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
What do you think that a tu a tongue of
ollver could pull down on the open market.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
He definitely would be over fifty definitely, if I'm hypothetically,
if he has this type of year, game seventeen games,
top MVP, a candidate again leading the league and again
now it's back to back years. Absolutely, one of these
teams struggling looking for a quarterback, one of these bottom dwellers,
struggling looking for a quarterback with a lot of cap room. Absolutely, he'll,
(25:33):
he'll definitely would get fifty million. Anybody that doesn't believe that,
you're trust me, you're killing yourself. But once again, I'm
speaking of a hypothetical twenty twenty four. Now, if he
goes to the twenty twenty four and he craps to
bed all bets off the table, all bets off the table.
Oh dude, I'm gonna give it to you real, all
bets off the table. But if he goes and Miami's
in the playoffs again, that's three straight years, play to
the playoffs, three straight years. And if they somehow want
(25:55):
again win the division, so they get a home wildcard
game and they win a wildcard game. Okay, now they
get a wildcard game at home and they lose that
wildcard game. All right, this on you tour now. Now
the front office has a way to back out and go, hey, yes, yeah,
got us to the playoffs again, buddy. But ah, is
he the guy? The narrative would be God, is he
the guy that take Miami over. We get we'll get that,
(26:17):
We'll get that type of narrative. So it's in his hands.
I just think the Dolphins are playing a very very
bad game. A chicken right now, Jacobey Rossett mix more
than at the quarterback position right now for the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Then two a tako wa loo.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, I mean he's The question is not should he be?
Should he be? In extension talks, The question is at
how much?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
So obviously he needs to get a raise forty forty eight.
It's got to start at for it's got to start
at forty eight. It's got to start at forty eight.
Deshaun Watson forty six, Kirk Cousins forty five, Kyler Murray.
Nobody likes Kylier. You guys die out there, you guys
don't big him up. Forty six million. Jalen Hurts who
I love, Lamar Jackson, who I love, and then Justin
Jared Goff, Trevor Burrow, Oh goodness, dude, all good quarterbacks.
(27:01):
But come on, man, I'm looking at under fifty. Jalen
Hurts is at forty as that fifty one. Kyler's at
forty six. He can't get Coller, he can't get more
than Kyler Murray. But I think that is that's a
wide gap. What did we say?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Ten million? We determined you're right.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's why I know, you know, did Jalen hurts of
her idiot?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
He went to a super Bowl? It's hard?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, yes, it's basically when you see them MVP, you
can't a deal like what Trevor Lawrence has. They are
betting on the potential, right, they're betting on the potential.
They like, look, you had the had Urban Meyer year one. Yeah,
you know, we're building something here, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Whatever. That that's how Jacksonville talks himself into it. Last
year he got hurt, so then they kind of fell off. Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Very similar to when Derek Carr was on his rookie deal.
The Raiders talked themselves and okay, let's just go ahead,
lock this up, and you know if for better or
for worse, they had a quarterback for a decade. Yep,
you know, they had a quarterback for a decade. That's
what they're betting on. The had the MVP season.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
He broke his ankle in Week thirteen. He can't. That's
you know, I wonder to get help that I wonder.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
If that's they just think, this to me is a
tastic kind of like yo to we don't know if
you're that guy?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
All right, well, okay, and I once again I get
that part of it. But that's a dangerous game of
chicken in the NFL at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
If you you.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Gotta lock a guy. So if he leaves, so say
they don't pay him it, who leaves? What do we do?
You're stuck back to the beginning. You're stuck back drafting
a guy. You're set back another three to five seasons.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You think Tyreek's gonna like that.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
You think some of these other veterans, the guys that
are kind of end of Jalen Ramsey, you think he's
gonna want to be want to stay there knowing that, oh,
well we're rebuilding again. Well, Mike mcdaie'll be fired to
next year.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
There's there's a couple teams that have not had too
much trouble drafting quarterbacks. We'll ask who can stop this
one kind of got lucky in the draft in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
In the NFC.
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Unless someone either Lebron Senior or JJ Redick adjust their
egos making consideringly the smaller throughout the course of the season,
the Lakers will be lucky to win ten games in
the season twenty twenty four to twenty five.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Ten ten games completely, that's what he said.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Worse than the Pistons, worse than the Spurs, worse than
the Hornets of last year, ten games for the Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Like I love the guy because we tweet all the time.
He's a great fan of Fox Sports Radio, but that
one not I think he might have been being a
little I think he might have been just exaggerated, not ten,
not ten wins. This feeling though that they could miss
the playoffs some way. So how if this thing just
falls apart, I'm hinging just everything on. You tell me
(31:05):
that they're going seventy six excuse me, seventy six and
seventy one ad Lebron as far as games played, you're
telling me they're gonna duplicate that again. I would take
the under on that, and then that's gonna affect the win.
So they won forty seven games, guys, and they needed
seventy six, won forty seven games that we're in the playing,
but we're going to play exactly. We're in the playing
(31:26):
with forty seven wins, you're telling me they win fifty
and more with this team. The team is not better
teams older teams got a little you know, it's not better.
I don't know if they got worse. I just know
they didn't get better. No one's running around like, oh man,
look at the moves that the Lakers may know. It's
been all about drafting Brownie James and a JJ Redmill.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So part of the reasons why it's been all about
draft the draft is they've made no moves Yeah, there's
been no moves to talk about, like quite literally, they
have made zero moves besides their own players opting in,
which I'll let you know a little secret America, that's
not the most positive scenario because you opt in when
you don't have a market elsewhere. That's why you opted
(32:04):
to take the deal that's already on the table. So
that means of the three players of the Lakers that
opted in, they probably didn't have anywhere else to go.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah. Absolutely, But it's like I said, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I they be looking to win forty I like forty
forty one wins, and I think that's being very objective
and very fair for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Deep Patone says, the West goes through Dallas again, great addition,
adding Klay Thompson the one more shooter they needed to
compliment Luca and Kyrie. I just wonder how that looks
on the defensive side of things.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Do you like the Grimes edition there also too? I
think he needs to work there because they need.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Somebody because if he can go and be the guy
he was before his knee injury, which is the reason
why he was available really in the first place. Absolutely,
he's got to because somebody has got to play some defense. Yeah,
I think Luca may Well, here's my even thing with
Luca's far defensive and just playing period, I'm a I'm
(33:01):
all for playing for your country. If I were him,
I might have I mighta I might have sat this
one out. I think he needs some rest, I really do.
And he's not gonna get healthier by running through They
just lost, right, and you know they're tune up going
into the Olympics and the terms they're playing out there,
and he's playing back home for his home country. I'm
all for playing for your own country. I just do
(33:22):
think that at some point you're gonna have another opportunity
to do. He's still young enough, Luca could play in
the next Olympics. He'll be just fine.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I just think with the injuries and the guy pretty
much dragging his body to the finish line, to flip
right around and then go play for your country, go
playing the Olympics, I'm not sure I like that. So
I'm not sure how that's going to effect going into
next week. Maybe he gets rest after the Olympics, he's
got two months off, and you know, maybe doesn't do
a lot training camp that do a lot in preseason,
(33:51):
just getting ready for the season. Maybe he's at that
point already at a ripe age of what twenty five, twenty.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Six years old at the most, God to me is
the number one thing he has to do is getting
better shape.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, we're playing coming off of injuries and that's not
gonna help. That's why I said I would like him
to sit this one out. Man, no one's gonna no
one's gonna rip him if he didn't play for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
You don't think the what is the Croatia Slavenia Slavinia?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You think the Slovenia sports ark radio hoster.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Like giving it as all we should have tried harder
and Niros twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
No, this basketball team isn't doing it. Yeah, right, and
there they'll combine it all too with a with a
cop that doesn't sound like a Slovenian accent.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Martin. I have zero idea what a Slovenian actions sounds
like me, and neither I'm not even gonna go there.
I do think it was pretty cool that he tells
the story where he's here playing the Lakers and someone's
trash talking him in his day of language.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
He turns around and looks and it's Kobe Bryant. It's
one of the best Kobe stories from a player. That man,
one of that man is a treasure. Oh Man still
miss him to this day. College football expansion, Baby, this
is it.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
We're here, Martin.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
No, it went from from two teams and the BCS
four teams a short while ago. Before that polls, before
BCS wasn't even two teams. Whoever got voter got voted,
he ever got voted, And now a twelve team playoff,
which I mean, it's too much. They just missed the boat. Yep,
they missed the boat. And now all right, pee to
(35:16):
the PAC twelve. The Big ten looks like I mean,
just the list of teams looks like the Western Conference,
That's what it is. He looks like the Eastern Conference.
And that's very much where we're headed soon, like it'll
be that to college conferences. The way to do this
division quick we'll talk about the actual playoffs, but just
(35:36):
what they should have done, what was obvious and clear,
what should have been the case. All five Power five
teams conference champions automatic bid into the postseason three at large.
There you go eight teams, winning your conference still matters
because that was the Pac Tolls problem.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
It's like, we could go undefeated and win this to
y'all still leave us out Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Also two and past years what ACC is year Florida
State went undefeated. ACC won the conference. Couldn't get it?
Oh because the quarterback got hurt. Okay, but but that
so that he races going undefeated. Now we now we're
looking for well if the quarterbacks that doesn't matter. Does
that does not matter? They won, They went undefeated and won.
You and I always talked about eight because you know
(36:19):
what else happens with eight that we get probably another
Michigan Ohio State rematch.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You you probably agree with that.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Right if if all, if we had eight teams, they're
gonna play again because they're always one and two or
one in three.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Think whoever didn't win the conference would probably still have
the inside track on being one of the at large.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Which probably I believe should have it because they let
it happen for the SEC all the time. Teams that
don't win the SEC somehow getting to the the get
it to the college fall club.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Until this year, and.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I thought Georgia falling from one completely.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Out Georgia would have been at large team. Yes, absolutely, but.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Just even with the far they've they've won their last
twenty something plus games that they slip up on one
Saturday afternoon to Nick Saban, and they wanted Nick Saban
in because of course we you know, we felt it
was coming down to the end of the track.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
For Nick Saban.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
But twelve feels like, ah man, if it feels so
over so overdone. We know this is about money. We
noticed about TV contracts and sponsorships and autis. I don't
have a problem with It's just American business. If you're
complaining about that, you'll be complain about that till you're
not and it's not gonna change. But now I'm thinking,
if you can lose how many losses knocks you right,
(37:28):
two losses probably still get you in for.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
A twelve team playoff. Yeah, I think depending on your
strength to schedule, you might be able.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
To lose three, especially if you're a top well it
would have to be hate dependent on the SEC. But
if the three loss team gets in, it's gonna be
an SEC well because I are.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
The If you go undefeated and lose to the number
two ranked team in the nation. I was just said,
the number one rate team in the nation, the number
three ranked team in the nation, the number fifth rand
team in the nation. Then like they're gonna be like, well,
they just couldn't beat the teams in front of them. Yeah,
that's gonna.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Be the absolutely now with also two of the upcoming season.
A few teams I like to look at Man I
think Michigan of course, defending champions I know, hardball f
and they did lose some guys, a lot of guys,
drafted a lot of guys at the combine. But once again,
when you really put this team into perspective and what's
on the field, there is a ton of talent on
(38:25):
this team. They have a top ten rated offensive line,
they have a top ten rated defensive line. They probably
have the best defensive linemen. And Grant Mason, who if
he came out there, if you could have came out
this year, he'd have been a top ten pick. He's
that good in the twitches. I think the offensive side
of the ball with Samar, with Samar and the speed
guys that they're adding, the young freshmen and sophomores from
(38:48):
the last two years. The talk has been Hey, these
guys are a different breed. We may not be able
to pound like Blake Korn because I don't. I don't
think Donovan Edwards is. I don't think he's the next back.
I thought he was a great fill in guy for
Blake Korm. He doesn't strike me as the next a train,
the next Tyrone Wheatley, the next to Shamanka, to Shamunga Biakabatuca. Yeah,
(39:10):
to Shamungo Biakabatuca. He doesn't strike me as that guy.
But he could be Chris Perry. You remember Chris Perry.
He could be Tussaint. You remember college. There you go,
but productive back right, productive back. But he wasn't Mike Hart,
he wasn't Blake Krn. He knows guy, there's there's these
levels and tiers of running back. I don't know if
(39:31):
he's that, but I think defense number one is still
a top five defense in the nation. It's the same
coach as same program. You didn't you lost your coach,
but you didn't have to turn over. It's not Alabama, right,
Saban walks out the door. Everybody walks out the door.
They lose their best true freshman Caleb Downs, he transfers
to Ohio State. So Michigan, I hate to admit it.
Ohio State, though, is going to be very very very
(39:53):
very very very good.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
This year.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
They bought back everybody. They've sold the house. They pushed
all their chips to the middle of table.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Martin. This is the year to save Day's job.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Everybody came back a burning in Columbus.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yes, and they have to go undefeated. They have to
go undefeated their first loss.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
The only slip up on their calendar I see is,
of course Michigan. They're gonna lose to us. There will
be four years in a row. But they go to
Oregon in September, and Oregon's gonna be breaking in a
transferred quarterback. So it's not a new quarterbacks. The quarterback
that's played Oregon just actually they just signed they just
got a commitment from the number one rank receiver in
the nation the class twenty twenty five, So the number kid, yes,
the number three overall player who turned down Michigan and
(40:36):
basically all the other big boys to go to Oregon.
So the train keeps turning up there if you get
them up to Orgon. I've been to Oregon to a
game and call the game. When you go up there, guys,
you can see why kids shake their head and go, yeah,
I want to come here.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But they do. Man, they have all the weapons. Their
question is going to be quarterback.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Much like Michigan with alex Orgy Texas Longhorns, they were
right there. I thought they could have beaten Washington, but
I think Washington just was on a path and they
didn't have a defense. Corners were just getting killed. That
showed the difference in the Michigan game National Championship game.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Georgia also too. I think people are discounting Georgia. They
have one loss in the last two three years.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
One loss.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, this Georgia team is still going to be solidified.
I like the final four. If I'm just way too
early in Michigan, Georgia, Texas uh in Ohio State. To me,
we're gonna end up being the last four teams out
of the twelve once we get to the Semis.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
It's just too much, just too much like the I
just hate teams is way too much.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Just headed out.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
They've done this because you know it's still gonna happen
to the teams like U see, I still gonna get
left out.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Now, if that happens, If that happens, I call shenanigans.
If that happens, if you start to have like what
happens if a MAC team goes undefeated, you because eventually
you're gonna move up the ranks. You're gonna be ranked,
You're gonna move up the polls. Teams are gonna lose,
they're gonna fall, and you're and you're you're crossing your fingers.
(42:00):
I remember the year when Florida State played the national
championship game. Marshall also went undefeated, but Florida State played
Virginia Tech instead of Marshall. Now, Marshall had Randy mosson
That's pretty much Randy Molson. Chadpiinontson was the reason why
Marshall was so good. That shows you Randy Moss was
a single handedly reason why he was a finalist in
(42:21):
the Heisman that year was him, Charles Woodson, Peyton Mann
and Ryan Leaf and Randy Moss. That's how great Randy
Moss was. But if you have a mid major so
called mid major mid major, but you have a MAC
team going defeed it eventually they're gonna move up the polls.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Do you purposely, Oh do you purposely keep them out
of the top twelve undefeated?
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Guys? That what you're kinda by talking about the Central
Florida type things, that what you're kind of predicted.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
If you're not a big boy, you can't come to
this party.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We don't care how many games we've proven the big
boys can get left out.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Florida State again last.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Year, Well, I mean, I hope not, but I also
am realistic, and I think it would have been a
lot of It would have been a lot better if
you were guaranteeing some playoff spots in order to go
ahead and just knock some of those teams off the list.
Like the college basketball tournament, for example, some teams are
(43:13):
just guaranteed and if you win your conference tournament, you're
in period. Stop, do not pass, go, do not collect
two hundred dollars. I think that college football could take
a look at that h and probably draft off of it,
because I think it would help them quite a bit because.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
There's just not twelve.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
There's just not twelve teams that could legitimately win the national.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Championship, and there's not sixty four that could are sixty
eight or whatever. That can legitly win the college basketball
championship either.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
True, but it's a different, different game. You get the
we're not gonna like a twelves, not beating a one.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Martin, Yeah, but that's do we now have that? It's
not beating the two?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Do we now have like the ten seeds Cinderella Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Cowboys to be ten, three three? This hypothetically? You know this?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Hey that nine to four matchup, Hey, hey, that nine
four matchup the last two out of five years.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Oh well, hard to complain about. More football coming up next,
we'll dive into more football. Who do we think will
be the best player at the end of the season.
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