July 9, 2024 • 36 mins
Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier get you all caught up in the wild day of sports. And Steph Curry may or may not want to be a Warrior for life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, let's go. It's
a beautiful day in the neighborhood, and damn I'm happy
to be back in it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Welcome back, big boy, welcome back. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Here's the voice of the Steak and genius himself. It's
already Spanner with me on Mike Harmon Jason Smith off.
This week we kind of played plane tag as I
came back to the States. He absconded on his European holiday.
Thanks to all those who said in my stead, I
know you did one of the nights last week. Arnie.
It's good to be back with working with some proper villa.
(01:00):
We got Alex, we got Justin, we got Steve de Sager.
We're ready to go. Here a big action item list
all along I got as we joke about always the
legal papers start flowing early in the morning, nine to twelve.
And it's funny because i'd actually had the conversation with
my younger daughter at about eight o'clock. She's like, Oh,
(01:21):
who's in with you tonight? I go, Oh, it's gonna
be Arnie goes, have the papers come yet? So she
already knows, and I'm like, And then it finally came
at nine to twelve. I'm like, he's late.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I'm late, I went. But you know what, I was
looking at the topics. You said, I can't read it
because it's like the size of the fine print on
the end of a contract.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, but you know what, I didn't send you. I
could have sent you my scrawling, because I actually have
it on an actual sheet of paper, both my own
chicken scratch, but I didn't. We got a lot to
get to. I mean, some of the notes that you've sent,
a bunch that we've mashed together. We'll get into Steph
Curry momentarily. I've got the great reminder of what the
actual definition of nepotism is. And that is my warning
(02:00):
to all my media brethren who've really gone after Lebron
James this last week. Just look in the mirror a
little bit, because you might have caught yourself in some
similar situations with how you handle your own jobs, careers,
and maybe some people that you've helped along the way.
That doesn't mean they weren't gonna be fine employees, but
(02:21):
you didn't know that when you refer to them, now,
did you. We'll get into that and so much more
as we go, but it is good to be back, Arnie.
Welcome in. Always good to hang out with you. Legend
in this business.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
So I want to hear about your trip too. I
can't wait to hear it. You must have a lot.
You went over to Dublin. You saw Taylor Sweet we did?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah? No, that was fun. Yeah no. The first thing.
Rob Gara, executive producer of The Odd Cop a couple
longtime Fox Sports Radio legend himself. He goes you and me,
I mean, nobody else is here. How much did that
trip cost you? And I just smiled and I said,
we'll be working Sundays for a while here on Fox
Sports Radio and maybe a couple of big pieces of
(03:03):
my trading card collection have to say goodbye. But beyond that,
my daughters and I had an experience for those days,
and my brother was out there during the Dublin part
that I'll never be able to forget even if I tried.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You should have pulled like a super Bowl tried to
sneak into the concert, like that one guy that sneaks
into the super Bowl every year. I'm sure it would
have been that tough to do.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, no, not at all, no security whatsoever. I
didn't have to show a wristband nineteen times to walk
thirty feet down a hallway fearful of what other folks
might have been down that road. So yeah, I mean
lots of lots of fun. You know, some old castles
and churches and cathedrals and watering holes to go through.
(03:42):
So I mean we had a blast. We really lived
it up for those couple of weeks or a couple
of days, I should say, good for these three days
in Dublin and then a couple of days in London.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Nice. Nice, It's a trip of a lifetime. You had
a great time. And I'm sure you were just chopping
to get back into all this talk about Brody and
this and that, and it was kind of crazy the
way people were getting unhinged about what was going on.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know, well, you know how it goes though. It's
it's as much as you need the time away, and
it was really good for the mental reset of course,
and whatever it is, you know, and the jokes about
what it costs or whatever. Maybe you can't go to Europe,
maybe you can't go to the shore, whatever the case is.
Yet you got to find a place of peace to
step off the merry go round for a minute, because well,
(04:26):
I mean, look, I've been very open with my own
struggles on the highs and low's and I call it
the roller coaster. My family and the guys here they've
been very supportive and helpful to get me through all
of that. And you know, you hit a wall and
you've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
As much as you love day to day, sometimes it's
say all right, I need to pause. I needed to rest.
Doesn't mean I wasn't still apprized of what was going on, right,
I was still watching every minute of Euro twenty twenty four,
every bit of COVID. I watched every minute of listless,
useless extra time soccer in Euro twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
We're gonna be watching that. I mean that that was fun.
I bet you had a blast watch. Well, we weren't
gonna skip that, No.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
No, no, I mean because look, you're you're in nations
participating and certainly England with what's going on, and and
look there's there's been some how should we say, some
mediocre soccer being played in many of those big events.
And I know Jason and you guys, and certainly when
Steve Disager graciously sat in for me, and you know,
(05:29):
they talked a lot about the failings of the US
men's national team. I'm not gonna say I miss those
conversations because you know, I kind of get myself in
trouble sometimes because we we watched that a little more
than I think most of our media brethren when it
comes to the ins and outs and and ev and
flow of those particular squads. So you know, between that
(05:50):
and NBA Free Agency, there were a couple of times
I started to fire up the phone to record a video.
My daughters both looked at me, and I started getting
the decatable the ken bout fingerwave. No, no, you promised
you're off, Get off Twitter. And my brother would laugh
at me as well. He's like, like, man, take the break.
All of this will be waiting for you and then
(06:10):
some because look, I come right back and what's the
big topic. Yeah, Bronnie James.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Oh yeah, I was gonna say, Botny James. It's not
going anywhere, Mike. What this is?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You bet? This is more than a marathon. So strap
in and enjoy the ride. I gotta tell you what
I did the show last night, Blake was getting on me.
He's like, I'm tired of this Broddy James thing. I'm
tired of this. I just can't take it anymore. People
are getting unhinged. They're saying this, they're saying that. And
as he's talking, Twitter is going berserk. It's coming in
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faster than he can even say the words. That's all
people wanted to talk about. What was happening with Brody?
Did he deserve it that first game? Why did he
play the second game? Is he gonna play the Chi League?
It's amazing how many tweets we got last night.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
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way tire buying should be. In the end, the man
is a fifty to fifth pick in the NBA draft. Now,
if you're a Laker fan and you're upset with what
you've seen the last couple of years playing rounds early exits,
you know, Lebron and Ad staying healthy and still an
early exit, I understand you're signed up for another couple
(07:39):
of years with it. Lebron James signing the three million
dollars or thereabouts under the max, which keeps them away
from the second Apron, which we know really limits your flexibility.
Freeze's draft picks and trade like, there's so much to
it that's been added, and it's an absolute mess. It's
part of the Paul George stuff that we'll talk about
as well, but it's the how unhinged everybody has gotten
(08:02):
about Brownie's path. In old, old you know line that
we've had forever from it was Kevin Durant who said,
you know, if you don't like it, don't watch so
if it really irks you that much, and I get it,
you might have to put your purple and gold jerseys
and T shirts and everything. You know, maybe you put
a little bit of a veil over anything you've got
(08:24):
of Kobe and the Laker history, and you go adopt
another team for two years because eventually Lebron's gonna go away.
If it offends you that much, that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But go ahead, No, what is it, Michael. You know,
when it usually comes to athletes, we can't go ahead
and you know, relate to what they do with the
money they make and stuff like that. But now we
can relate. We're talking about nepotism. We're talking about Oh
my goodness. You know, here's a guy taking a spot
that doesn't deserve it. And a lot of people have
dealt with that when they had to go ahead and
(08:54):
just regular jobs. Whether it's the boss's son that gets
a job and gets promoted ahead of you, we all
have to deal with that in the regular Well.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But that but that was the point that I was
I made as we got started here, Arnie. Nepotism quote
the act of granting an advantage, privilege, or position to
relatives or friends in an occupation or field, right, and
look at our business. To use the term incestuous well
might be a little bit pointed and divisive, but it
(09:26):
is like everybody knows everybody. It's a small community. It's
growing because of the way podcasting in the interwebs and
all of this fun stuff have done. But in terms
of folks that have been really pointing their fingers and
getting truly unhinged about this stuff, Arnie, I'd like them
to all pause for a moment and think if they've
(09:47):
ever maybe made a phone call, maybe sent a text
or an email on behalf of someone you know, maybe
their kid, trying to help them, you know with the
college internship or something like that, or or maybe you know,
getting a friend a job, or maybe saying hey, you
know what you need you need some help well with
(10:08):
your weekend work again talking radio and television, uh specifically here,
maybe some newsprint along the way and websites.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Then every one of those people, uh, they should retract
any of those endorsements that they've ever made and just say,
you know what, forget I said anything, right, forget it,
because because it's the same thing. Right, if you've got
a position that you have earned with any kind of power,
clout whatever word you want to call it, and you
can help someone that you love or that is in
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your life and try to give them a little bit
of a push. That's what everybody tries to do, right,
is that generally the way? So if Lebron James has
that that that's gonna make him happy as a Laker.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's a difference, though, here's why is it a different Well,
I'll tell you. Look, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
On the team, right, if Genie boss is okay with
this again, be mad at her, be mad j Moore.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Is Genie really okay with it? Or she just doing
it to appease Lebron? Is Genie really well?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
In the end, she made a choice. Lebron James doesn't
own the team last I.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Saw you know at the bottom. Mind, it really doesn't
make that much of a difference. It's just it puts
a bad optic out there, Mike, that's the problem. It's
a bad opt.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Why is it a bad optic? What's the difference? If
he doesn't make it, the guy that they drafted fifty
to fifth otherwise generally doesn't make it either. And I
know folks are going through and finding the twenty five
players that became All Stars be out of this late
second round or undrafted, and you can do that to
your you're blue in the face. On the grand scale,
those are still a very small percentage of the guys
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being drafted in those slots.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Right, I understand that, But you still want things fair
and fair. Now do we use our influence? We use
our positions to maybe get somebody a job or maybe
get them an interview. Like I said, my son was
a goalie, but you you could only carry two goalies.
You you can't say, well, can you carry him and
he'll be the backup. You don't get that kind of luxury.
(12:02):
I would never say put my kid on the team
if he didn't live up to par or deserve to
be on the team, I'd say just give him a chance.
If he doesn't make it, he's not good enough, then
he's got to go ahead and move on to something else.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Right, But that's really what this is. Right, they gave
him a four year deal. He's gonna make eight million dollars. Again,
not your money, not my money. Right, And if they
spent eight million dollars on him, and and folks are
saying they circumvented the cap because he signed for less
and then they paid all this extra money to Bronny. Again,
I offer you a big hug if this really offends
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you to that level, because it's again, it's it's if
he can play, he sticks, and you only have to
go through this two years, right, twelve years, I'm saying
in theory, the lebron James contract is two years.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I'm not sure he's going to be on the starting
roster when the when the season starts, I'm not so
sure that's still gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, but that's but that becomes the larger thing. Right,
he played in the first game, and we could talk
about how well or he did or didn't play the
isolation play that got everybody mad about his defensive acumen.
And then he misses the second game and Summer League
begins in Earnest on Friday. There's so much to go
with it. But you know, that's the first part of it.
(13:18):
From the nepotism side of thing. I hope everybody just
gets a little bit calmer in that regard again, thinking
of how they operate in their own lives of trying
to push folks through doors a little faster, because deciding
who deserves what is a very dangerous game to play.
He's already Spaniard at Stinking Genius one. I'm over at
(13:40):
Swollen Dome at Fox Sports right if you want to
jump in as well. Steph Curry making the rounds doing
some interviews as part of the men's national team pressers
as they get ready for international competition in warm ups
as well. And he's got some tongues wagon and we'll
do some of that as well coming up now.
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the State Genius Arnie Span. You're in at Stink and
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Speaker 3 (15:08):
Hey, right, full lineup? You got a full line up?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh well, you know what, you gotta gotta keep it varied.
It'll be five very distinctly different shows. But I get
to bookend it with you and then Chris Blank on Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Should have been five days of already Span you'd but
what the heck.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
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letter writing campaign and do the Andy Do frame where
you write to a day until you get the answer.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You want to work for him though it did eventually
and I mean he still had to crawl through uh
that vile yeah to as we well know.
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NBA still still swirling out there. The most of the
(16:03):
free agent dollars have been spent in terms of things
that are gonna really move the needle and get tongues
wagging across our airwaves, aren't he For lack of a
better term, but one of the things that really was
kind of interesting to me Steph Curry kind of talking
he and Steve Kerr I Curry the coach of your
team USA, and had some your guy right when we
(16:26):
talk about you're gonna do the Arizona you know, little
sound effect herey guy. I knew we could get you there.
Is that you know, you say goodbye to Clay, talk
about statues and all of those, and as we talked
about at the end of the regular season and into
the playoff picture and where we're at now, it's like
you had to decide whether you're gonna do the nostalgia
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tour or whether you're gonna move on instead, you bring
in Buddy healed and and try to have this new
iteration with Steph and Draymond in their final years with
the Warriors. But Steph making some headlines today talking about
I clearly can say that I want to be a
Warrior for life talking to Vince Goodwill, It's always been
(17:09):
my goal and I'm saying, sitting in the chair right now,
this is what I want. Well, here's the audio of
Steph making his claim about his future.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
You want to be that person that says I'm staying
with one franchise for my entire career or is it
just contingent upon where the franchise is.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, I mean I can clearly say I want to
be a Warrior for life. It's always been my goal,
and I'm saying that's sitting in this chair right now.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But like you said, life and.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Especially life in the NBA, it is a.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Wild environment, and things changed quickly, and the league has
changed quickly, so we're trying to adapt and evolve.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And yeah, so I'll let everybody know if that changes.
But right which means that door is a jar immediately. Well, no,
but immediately, And my ear, what did I get from
my executive producer, Justin Crosberg. Hello, Lakers.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, I I already said a text over to Mark
Willard up in San Francisco, going he's gone. He's gone.
Stop crying about it. He's gonna be gone out there.
Whenever somebody says, I want to be a so and
so for life, but life calls and you never know
what's going to happen. Pull that, you know, say that
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to your wife and he goes, well, I want to
be married to you till I die, but you never
know which way life is going to drag me. No,
that that doesn't work. I can see what he's saying, though.
I can understand what he's saying, Mike, but I really
think at the end of his career he's going to
be gone. By the way, the Warriors should not have
let Klay Thompson go. He had called him up. I
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guess the rumor was he was saying, I'll come back
for a two year, forty million, twenty million per I
know that Steph wanted him back. That's not a lot
of money, and plus he was probably gonna come off
the bench prize. They didn't give him that money for
the two years. They must have really wanted him gone,
my friend.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, but that becomes the question, right, like what's real
what's imagined in terms of the dollars in size? Right
that that people are like, we'll get into Paul George
next hour, you know. And he tried to put some
specificity on it, and I don't think he made himself
look terribly great it is in terms of how he
but look in the end, he ends up with a
much the extra year and another sixty million dollars. I
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might going to fault a guy sixty to seventy when
it's all said, none, how do I fault a guy
for that? But for Steph Curry, it's also the I
don't want to be the bad guy. Is the way
he's couched it here, right, I want to be here
for life. But more or less says hey, that may
not be my decision. When it's also what.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Happened to Clay, if it could happen to Klay, can
happened to him.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
But but you got to be a realist, right with
Klay Thompson where he was as a player. You know,
we talk a lot now about two way players and
being able to help on the defensive end and I'm
not pretending that that's what Steph Curry is. He gives
you an honest effort and leave it at that. But
for Klay Thompson that way. Look, he was a great shooter,
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and he was a great defender. Well he's not a
great defender anymore. The knee injuries, the leg injuries have
robbed him of that to where yeah, he can clamp
down for a bit, but not for the full forty
eight and certainly not eighty two times plus playoffs. I mean,
that's just not where he is physically. And the Warriors
did right by him. He got paid an exorbitant amount
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of money and missed it a lot of time at
some point, so I point you, at some point you've
got to decide. It's like, all right, do we let
it run its natural course, which is where it's headed.
And it's a nostalgia act where we're hopeful to be
at the back end of the playoffs hopefully, or that
we're into the play in tournament and that's about as
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good as it gets. And we've got to catch lightning
in a bottle and have all of these other guys
fall as if we're running around with voodoo dolls and
sticking pins in their legs and whatever else, so they
fall one by one and the pathway to an NBA
title avails itself again, or we're gonna be realists that
all right, Stephan Draymond more or less can still do
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what they do, right, Draymond, for all of the hand
ringing that goes along with him, he's still a pretty
damn good player on both ends of the gay.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, but they're stuff far away from winning a championship.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
There's no better than the way, right, But why are
you gonna bring back clay when that Well, because it's.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Two it's a two year deal, that's the first thing.
I'm sure they probably could have traded him after one,
you know, mid season, to a contender that wants to
go ahead and make a run at an NBA championship,
So you probably wouldn't have been on the hook for
the full two years out there. Plus, what's gonna happen
when Steph Curry gets a little bit older and he's
gonna demand the fifty, the sixty to seventy, the eighty
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million per year for a guy that's really not gonna
be producing as much as he used to be. He
has icon status, kind of the way the way Kobe
got some money towards the end of his career. Sure,
those last two years you're gonna have to pay stuff
that type of money. Are you gonna let him walk away?
I'm not so sure about that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well, but that becomes organization to organization, right, Which owner
governor whatever we're calling him these days, is willing to
do that? With Genie Buss and the Bus family, it's
still been important that you know, as much as we
deride it for running like a mom and pop, loyalty
still stands as one of the hallmarks. And that's part
(22:24):
of the Lebron James things like you brought him here,
you want to run it out, finish the job here,
and thinking that with a full season of health, a
little bit of luck dot dot dot Right, Well, yes,
obviously I'm talking that's you and me out here. Internally,
maybe they think they're closer than they are, right because
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how many times did you hear, hey, if Vincent and
Vanderbilt were healthy, those were two prime defenders, et cetera.
Problem is you also got a year where your two
ones who have been hurt a lot stayed healthy. So
you know, wondering how that mixes the next year. I
don't know, but you've decided in Lake Up and Company,
you know, dun Leady Junior, you know you decide at
(23:07):
some point, all right, is this what we want to
do going forward? Are we going to be that franchise
that just says, well, even if he's diminished skills, he's
not hitting threes, can't get himself opened the same way playmaking,
et cetera. Are we still going to be behold into
paying that money out because he wants to continue playing
versus exiting stage left gracefully. Well, we're still a couple
(23:29):
of years from that. The answer is, I don't know
how their organizations, because there are some organizations they're going
to say, hey, we exhausted all your utility. Beat it right.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I'm not saying that the Lakers would have won a
championship last year, but I'm wondering how things would have
been different had they pulled out one, maybe both those
games against Denver that Denver hit on last second shots,
which were really those things that rarely happened, and they
hit two in one series. I wonder how would have
played different had the Lakers stole that or maybe even
stole the series. What would people would be saying about them,
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and how close we'd be saying they are to an
NBA chap.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
But that's the thing, right, It's all all a game
of inches, and health comes in because how many people
derided the path that the Celtics took to get to
a time or the Mavericks running from the five seed
on the other you know, watching you know, injuries or
guys that are tripping over their tongues because they're tired,
et cetera. I still blame Michael Finley for it all.
(24:24):
He hadn't taken away Luca's superpower of his beard, his beer,
you know, like Popeye with his spinach, And when he
took away his beer when he was trying to have
a talk, I would have been salty. You emasculated the guy.
He earned that beer. Damn it.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, drink into the locker room, not out in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Whatever series is over, you want to move on. He's
got a couple of days before he's got to, you know,
strap it back on. And then you saw what he
did against Greece right in the Olympic qualifier. He was terrible. Yeah,
it's terrible. Turnover count crept up and now he he
goes home and oh my goodness, it's their first Olympics
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since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Right, and he was just balling on the bench. He just,
you know, just couldn't help himself. I would love if
and I'm glad we have our full team out there.
But it doesn't seem like our uh, you know, our people,
the United Americans are into the Olympics like some of
the other countries. That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, it's it's a different it's a different animal, and
I think it's always been approached, at least from the
basketball side, a little bit differently. Right, going back to
ninety two and moving forward, Now.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
We'll just did our group. We got the easiest group ever.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, but that's the thing, right, it's all these.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I could play and we can get through.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I have seen you reign three pointers. I think that
footage is twenty years old, but yeah, exact, especially with
the size of size of pieces of cake that you
keep showing that at your pregame training table.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Twenty years Mike's in block and white.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I think Vin Scully was calling it.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
My stats are not good this year. I'm one for Vince.
Gully's dad was actually on the.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Ah, did you just say you one for nine?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah? For nine.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
So now you've officially become a chucker.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I gotta keep falling. I'm like, gotta keep shooting.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Shooter. Shoot.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That's what they do, That's what we do exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean, I know you're not playing a lick of defense.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
No, I have two blocks. That leads the team mate.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Come on, yeah, you caught up with two guys to
block their show.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You just sneak up behind them and you know, knock
it away when they go up. Not that tough.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's the footage I want to see Arnie on the
defensive end because I know that is actually drawing a
guffa a big laugh from our guy, Steve tos Saker.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Oh yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
As we go. But but just for the finish, right,
And I know this was reported reputable reporters with the
two year, forty million dollars deal that you're doing, potentially
having been offered to Klay Thompson. But it's also you
start wondering about whether there was a fight about Roles.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, he didn't want to come off the bed, right.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Right, you're recognizing what you are at this point, right, Look, Dallas, Dallas,
from the five seed made their run and decided they
need to make another push. They went for you know,
with more money. Obviously we had the Lakers, who are
rumored to be with everybody. I mean, let's face it,
coming into free agency, and certainly in these studios, I
think a lot of guys on their ships spend a
(27:24):
lot of time photoshopping players into Lakers jerseys to see
how they'd look if free agency and the you know,
some sort of gust of wind would to carry him
this way. But yeah, it's it's everybody wants the respect
of the dollars, There's no question about it. That's part
of it goes back again to Paul George and some
(27:46):
of the other free agency decisions that come out here,
and certainly for Klay Thompson, knowing that they'd taken care
of Draymond at twenty five per for four years that
he was you know, trying to say, well I'm part
of that that threesome, so I shouldn't be the odd
man out. But again, skill sets and moving forward and
I shows I think it shows great maturity for the organization.
(28:10):
And people could say, well, you did the guy wrong,
and well, no, they did him right. And they re
signed him after a bunch of injuries, right, right, right,
I didn't see I didn't hear anybody's saying that when
he wasn't the same player necessarily for a good stretch
of that. And if we remember, the last time we
saw him was a big o for ten.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
But Clay is salty though he is soft. Well they
treated Draymont. They gave Draymont the contract. He felt each
of the got in the contract.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, you go in order, and now is Clay's time
and guess what his time was up. And they've got
to make moves for the future. Right, whether you like
Buddy healed or not, comes in He and Steph Curry.
You know, most prolific three point shooters the last couple
of years, right, I mean, we've seen all those numbers
getting pushed around and all the boards are built. And look,
(28:58):
I understand for Claire, I felt bad from Michael to Laker.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
What you need to become a Laker.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
What does that say that his own father couldn't get
him to the Lakers. What does that say that everybody
doesn't want to play with Lebron? That's really what it
is too. They don't want to go ahead and get
involved with what's happening in Los Angeles. The Lakers used
to be a must go destination. Now nobody wants to
play with Lebron.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, it's a difficult proposition because you're also looking at
it from the winning side. Because Buddy Heal said this too, right.
He was one of the big targets no no, but
but at the trade deadline the last couple of years,
and but he made sure to point out winning was
something that was important to him, right, And it seemed
like a little bit of a side eye toward Lakerland
(29:48):
when you go down that highway as well. And yes,
obviously you know we talk about sixteen trades and whatever.
As this all sorted out, you need a giant flow
chart to they can all work and to recognize the
dollars as they flow as well. Thank you so much,
Steve Desager at the news desk. We've got justin, We've
got Alex making us sound so pretty, Mike Carvin alongside
(30:10):
the Stink and genius himself. Arnie Spanier in for Jason Smith.
Thanks for giving us a few minutes of your time
as you get back into the throes of life following
the big long holiday weekend, and coming up next, we'll
go into my world, the hobby that I run through,
and I've got to issue a big statement of denial
after a two million dollars heist was perpetrated this weekend.
(30:34):
I didn't do it. I'm going full Bart Simpson next here.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Carmon. No Jason Tonight or this week all
star lineup starting with our guy Arnie Spanier at Sticking
Genius One. You hear him Sunday nights alongside Chris Plank,
who will join me on Friday as we roll through
the week. And this one big story in the hobby world, Spaniard.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I saw this.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And people immediately going, hey, Harmon, where were you? You
were out of you know, out of pocket, you kind
of disappeared a bit and everything else. And no, no, no,
it's it's not me. I promise you, my friends, my
brother and I nothing. Dallas Card Show one of the
biggest card shows that you do right, buying, selling, trading,
(31:30):
and the hobby doing very well right now, fanatics diving in.
Of course, Panini's still there in tops, the hallmark for baseball,
and a two million dollar theft occurred during setup time,
including six nineteen fifty two Mickey mantles. The you know, hey,
(31:50):
seventy thousand dollars reward is out there. But the photos
of the cards that are up there, I mean, you
want to talk about some of the biggest things in
the hobby history, from the early Willie Mays cards, Hank Aaron's,
the nineteen forty eight Satchel page, tons of mantals, including
as I said, six Rookies, one of which has a
price tag of one hundred and seventy five kon Wow. Yeah, yeah, no,
(32:13):
I mean we're talking.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I saw the video, did they They said they distracted
the owners.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
That what happened to Yeah, that's thing right during setup,
you got a lot of folks kind of wandering around.
There's reports that you had one guy that just kind
of was stacking chairs, So there was a bit of
an assumption that he worked there and was part of
this crew that eventually walked off with a case full
of some of the biggest cards in the in the
(32:39):
game's history because maybe go back trading cards go back
one hundred plus years. I mean, we all know about
the Honus Wagner famously owned one of the copies Gretzky
and mcnowell all those years ago and all the way through,
but the Mantle being probably the most recognizable card in
the hobby history outside of that Honus Wagon. I mean,
(33:00):
there's an early Warren Spawn Bowman card pictured, a couple
of Babe Roots, some early Pete Rose and Clemente cards,
old tobacco cards, aren't he I mean, this is the
stuff that when I go to shows, I just sit
there and I just you know, I sit in awe
in wonderment of those things. And somehow now that they've
(33:22):
been thefted in the hearts.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Gotta be sick. That guy's got to be sick. Who
owned it that just that got stolen from Well, there's.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
A lot of series that go well, but that's it,
right the insurance. Did they have enough security? Not just
the guy setting up, because if you're carrying that kind
of inventory, I would imagine you should. I men just
basic practice that you'd have one or two security guards
that you'd pay extra at the facility or I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Always abased when somebody robs a museum and just walks
out with the painting. I'm like, how does that happen?
Where's the security?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Well, sometimes because the paintings on the wall aren't the
actual paintings. Oh that's right, you're right, there's a bunch
of that going on. Drink wink of suddenly your kids
knocking him in the security guard doesn't seem terribly excitable,
like wait a minute, we're sorry, We're so sorry that whatever, Like, oh,
that's not really the painting now, is it sitting in
(34:15):
somebody's villa in the south of France or something like that.
But with these, I mean you're talking about cardboard gold
And the hard part is if they've been graded, right,
so one of the grading companies PSA or SGC or
Becket or whoever the case is, it's slabbed and it's
assigned a serial number, et cetera. Well, there's also a
way by which to get through those slabs pretty quickly,
(34:37):
crack them out without damaging the card, and then vallah,
Now you've got a raw card going back into the
marketplace or perhaps in for grading, and now it gets
a new serially serial number, et cetera, because distinguishing between them,
especially back then like now, a lot of cards are
serially numbered that are being submitted, right, so this one
(34:59):
is numbered out of twe twenty five is the one
to one whatever, all the way up into the hundreds
and thousand thousands, depending on the product and the print run.
But in this case, it's straight out of you know,
the old packs you bought at the five and dime
way back in the day and get slabbed. I mean,
there's no distinguishing marking. And yes, it's it could have
(35:20):
a bend that is similar, but trying to prove that
it is in fact, it's impossible.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
At first I thought maybe it was just a theft
of opportunity, that this seems more and more like it
was planned out though. Did they go after this one guy?
Did they know which cards they were going after? Did
they just say just whatever comes up, take the big cards,
let's run out. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I can tell you this from being around these things forever.
You see the same dealers and most of these big
shows right right, and the displays that they're carrying with
them don't change terribly much. Show to show, Yeah, they'll
sell off some of the big cards. Guess what with
other big cards? Right, Because if you're you're gonna pull
down one hundred and seventy five K for a mantle
(36:01):
that now gives you a liquid one hundred and seventy
five k to go find other mantles?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Why have six of them? Though? Why not just one?
When you sell that one, then put out another.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
They're all at different grades and different price points, right
if you got different price points, Like say you go
to the store and look at your cakes, right, you
want a big one? You know, maybe you're paying forty
bucks for that full cheesecake. Maybe you just want to
slice three ninety nine different products for different price points.
I got the same thing at the card shop or
at the card show, but here it looks pretty targeted.
(36:32):
Two million dollars plus the inventory sick. We'll see why
I would develop summer wondering. You know when insurance gets
involved in all of that. We've seen plenty of movies
about such chicanery in the past. Arnie Spaniard, no question
about it at stick a genius one where you think
about Twitter find me over at Swollen Dome coming out next, Hey,
a coach who said no to the Lakers got a
(36:54):
new contract today. What does it all mean in the
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, let's go. It's
a beautiful day in the neighborhood, and damn I'm happy
to be back in it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Welcome back, big boy, welcome back. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Here's the voice of the Steak and genius himself. It's
already Spanner with me on Mike Harmon Jason Smith off.
This week we kind of played plane tag as I
came back to the States. He absconded on his European holiday.
Thanks to all those who said in my stead, I
know you did one of the nights last week. Arnie.
It's good to be back with working with some proper villa.
(01:00):
We got Alex, we got Justin, we got Steve de Sager.
We're ready to go. Here a big action item list
all along I got as we joke about always the
legal papers start flowing early in the morning, nine to twelve.
And it's funny because i'd actually had the conversation with
my younger daughter at about eight o'clock. She's like, Oh,
(01:21):
who's in with you tonight? I go, Oh, it's gonna
be Arnie goes, have the papers come yet? So she
already knows, and I'm like, And then it finally came
at nine to twelve. I'm like, he's late.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I'm late, I went. But you know what, I was
looking at the topics. You said, I can't read it
because it's like the size of the fine print on
the end of a contract.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, but you know what, I didn't send you. I
could have sent you my scrawling, because I actually have
it on an actual sheet of paper, both my own
chicken scratch, but I didn't. We got a lot to
get to. I mean, some of the notes that you've sent,
a bunch that we've mashed together. We'll get into Steph
Curry momentarily. I've got the great reminder of what the
actual definition of nepotism is. And that is my warning
(02:00):
to all my media brethren who've really gone after Lebron
James this last week. Just look in the mirror a
little bit, because you might have caught yourself in some
similar situations with how you handle your own jobs, careers,
and maybe some people that you've helped along the way.
That doesn't mean they weren't gonna be fine employees, but
(02:21):
you didn't know that when you refer to them, now,
did you. We'll get into that and so much more
as we go, but it is good to be back, Arnie.
Welcome in. Always good to hang out with you. Legend
in this business.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
So I want to hear about your trip too. I
can't wait to hear it. You must have a lot.
You went over to Dublin. You saw Taylor Sweet we did?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah? No, that was fun. Yeah no. The first thing.
Rob Gara, executive producer of The Odd Cop a couple
longtime Fox Sports Radio legend himself. He goes you and me,
I mean, nobody else is here. How much did that
trip cost you? And I just smiled and I said,
we'll be working Sundays for a while here on Fox
Sports Radio and maybe a couple of big pieces of
(03:03):
my trading card collection have to say goodbye. But beyond that,
my daughters and I had an experience for those days,
and my brother was out there during the Dublin part
that I'll never be able to forget even if I tried.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You should have pulled like a super Bowl tried to
sneak into the concert, like that one guy that sneaks
into the super Bowl every year. I'm sure it would
have been that tough to do.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, no, not at all, no security whatsoever. I
didn't have to show a wristband nineteen times to walk
thirty feet down a hallway fearful of what other folks
might have been down that road. So yeah, I mean
lots of lots of fun. You know, some old castles
and churches and cathedrals and watering holes to go through.
(03:42):
So I mean we had a blast. We really lived
it up for those couple of weeks or a couple
of days, I should say, good for these three days
in Dublin and then a couple of days in London.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Nice. Nice, It's a trip of a lifetime. You had
a great time. And I'm sure you were just chopping
to get back into all this talk about Brody and
this and that, and it was kind of crazy the
way people were getting unhinged about what was going on.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know, well, you know how it goes though. It's
it's as much as you need the time away, and
it was really good for the mental reset of course,
and whatever it is, you know, and the jokes about
what it costs or whatever. Maybe you can't go to Europe,
maybe you can't go to the shore, whatever the case is.
Yet you got to find a place of peace to
step off the merry go round for a minute, because well,
(04:26):
I mean, look, I've been very open with my own
struggles on the highs and low's and I call it
the roller coaster. My family and the guys here they've
been very supportive and helpful to get me through all
of that. And you know, you hit a wall and
you've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
As much as you love day to day, sometimes it's
say all right, I need to pause. I needed to rest.
Doesn't mean I wasn't still apprized of what was going on, right,
I was still watching every minute of Euro twenty twenty four,
every bit of COVID. I watched every minute of listless,
useless extra time soccer in Euro twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
We're gonna be watching that. I mean that that was fun.
I bet you had a blast watch. Well, we weren't
gonna skip that, No.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
No, no, I mean because look, you're you're in nations
participating and certainly England with what's going on, and and
look there's there's been some how should we say, some
mediocre soccer being played in many of those big events.
And I know Jason and you guys, and certainly when
Steve Disager graciously sat in for me, and you know,
(05:29):
they talked a lot about the failings of the US
men's national team. I'm not gonna say I miss those
conversations because you know, I kind of get myself in
trouble sometimes because we we watched that a little more
than I think most of our media brethren when it
comes to the ins and outs and and ev and
flow of those particular squads. So you know, between that
(05:50):
and NBA Free Agency, there were a couple of times
I started to fire up the phone to record a video.
My daughters both looked at me, and I started getting
the decatable the ken bout fingerwave. No, no, you promised
you're off, Get off Twitter. And my brother would laugh
at me as well. He's like, like, man, take the break.
All of this will be waiting for you and then
(06:10):
some because look, I come right back and what's the
big topic. Yeah, Bronnie James.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Oh yeah, I was gonna say, Botny James. It's not
going anywhere, Mike. What this is?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You bet? This is more than a marathon. So strap
in and enjoy the ride. I gotta tell you what
I did the show last night, Blake was getting on me.
He's like, I'm tired of this Broddy James thing. I'm
tired of this. I just can't take it anymore. People
are getting unhinged. They're saying this, they're saying that. And
as he's talking, Twitter is going berserk. It's coming in
(06:41):
faster than he can even say the words. That's all
people wanted to talk about. What was happening with Brody?
Did he deserve it that first game? Why did he
play the second game? Is he gonna play the Chi League?
It's amazing how many tweets we got last night.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
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way tire buying should be. In the end, the man
is a fifty to fifth pick in the NBA draft. Now,
if you're a Laker fan and you're upset with what
you've seen the last couple of years playing rounds early exits,
you know, Lebron and Ad staying healthy and still an
early exit, I understand you're signed up for another couple
(07:39):
of years with it. Lebron James signing the three million
dollars or thereabouts under the max, which keeps them away
from the second Apron, which we know really limits your flexibility.
Freeze's draft picks and trade like, there's so much to
it that's been added, and it's an absolute mess. It's
part of the Paul George stuff that we'll talk about
as well, but it's the how unhinged everybody has gotten
(08:02):
about Brownie's path. In old, old you know line that
we've had forever from it was Kevin Durant who said,
you know, if you don't like it, don't watch so
if it really irks you that much, and I get it,
you might have to put your purple and gold jerseys
and T shirts and everything. You know, maybe you put
a little bit of a veil over anything you've got
(08:24):
of Kobe and the Laker history, and you go adopt
another team for two years because eventually Lebron's gonna go away.
If it offends you that much, that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But go ahead, No, what is it, Michael. You know,
when it usually comes to athletes, we can't go ahead
and you know, relate to what they do with the
money they make and stuff like that. But now we
can relate. We're talking about nepotism. We're talking about Oh
my goodness. You know, here's a guy taking a spot
that doesn't deserve it. And a lot of people have
dealt with that when they had to go ahead and
(08:54):
just regular jobs. Whether it's the boss's son that gets
a job and gets promoted ahead of you, we all
have to deal with that in the regular Well.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But that but that was the point that I was
I made as we got started here, Arnie. Nepotism quote
the act of granting an advantage, privilege, or position to
relatives or friends in an occupation or field, right, and
look at our business. To use the term incestuous well
might be a little bit pointed and divisive, but it
(09:26):
is like everybody knows everybody. It's a small community. It's
growing because of the way podcasting in the interwebs and
all of this fun stuff have done. But in terms
of folks that have been really pointing their fingers and
getting truly unhinged about this stuff, Arnie, I'd like them
to all pause for a moment and think if they've
(09:47):
ever maybe made a phone call, maybe sent a text
or an email on behalf of someone you know, maybe
their kid, trying to help them, you know with the
college internship or something like that, or or maybe you know,
getting a friend a job, or maybe saying hey, you
know what you need you need some help well with
(10:08):
your weekend work again talking radio and television, uh specifically here,
maybe some newsprint along the way and websites.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Then every one of those people, uh, they should retract
any of those endorsements that they've ever made and just say,
you know what, forget I said anything, right, forget it,
because because it's the same thing. Right, if you've got
a position that you have earned with any kind of power,
clout whatever word you want to call it, and you
can help someone that you love or that is in
(10:39):
your life and try to give them a little bit
of a push. That's what everybody tries to do, right,
is that generally the way? So if Lebron James has
that that that's gonna make him happy as a Laker.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's a difference, though, here's why is it a different Well,
I'll tell you. Look, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
On the team, right, if Genie boss is okay with
this again, be mad at her, be mad j Moore.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Is Genie really okay with it? Or she just doing
it to appease Lebron? Is Genie really well?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
In the end, she made a choice. Lebron James doesn't
own the team last I.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Saw you know at the bottom. Mind, it really doesn't
make that much of a difference. It's just it puts
a bad optic out there, Mike, that's the problem. It's
a bad opt.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Why is it a bad optic? What's the difference? If
he doesn't make it, the guy that they drafted fifty
to fifth otherwise generally doesn't make it either. And I
know folks are going through and finding the twenty five
players that became All Stars be out of this late
second round or undrafted, and you can do that to
your you're blue in the face. On the grand scale,
those are still a very small percentage of the guys
(11:39):
being drafted in those slots.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Right, I understand that, But you still want things fair
and fair. Now do we use our influence? We use
our positions to maybe get somebody a job or maybe
get them an interview. Like I said, my son was
a goalie, but you you could only carry two goalies.
You you can't say, well, can you carry him and
he'll be the backup. You don't get that kind of luxury.
(12:02):
I would never say put my kid on the team
if he didn't live up to par or deserve to
be on the team, I'd say just give him a chance.
If he doesn't make it, he's not good enough, then
he's got to go ahead and move on to something else.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Right, But that's really what this is. Right, they gave
him a four year deal. He's gonna make eight million dollars. Again,
not your money, not my money. Right, And if they
spent eight million dollars on him, and and folks are
saying they circumvented the cap because he signed for less
and then they paid all this extra money to Bronny. Again,
I offer you a big hug if this really offends
(12:35):
you to that level, because it's again, it's it's if
he can play, he sticks, and you only have to
go through this two years, right, twelve years, I'm saying
in theory, the lebron James contract is two years.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I'm not sure he's going to be on the starting
roster when the when the season starts, I'm not so
sure that's still gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, but that's but that becomes the larger thing. Right,
he played in the first game, and we could talk
about how well or he did or didn't play the
isolation play that got everybody mad about his defensive acumen.
And then he misses the second game and Summer League
begins in Earnest on Friday. There's so much to go
with it. But you know, that's the first part of it.
(13:18):
From the nepotism side of thing. I hope everybody just
gets a little bit calmer in that regard again, thinking
of how they operate in their own lives of trying
to push folks through doors a little faster, because deciding
who deserves what is a very dangerous game to play.
He's already Spaniard at Stinking Genius one. I'm over at
(13:40):
Swollen Dome at Fox Sports right if you want to
jump in as well. Steph Curry making the rounds doing
some interviews as part of the men's national team pressers
as they get ready for international competition in warm ups
as well. And he's got some tongues wagon and we'll
do some of that as well coming up now.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 5 (14:11):
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Speaker 5 (14:14):
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Speaker 4 (14:16):
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Speaker 5 (14:18):
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Speaker 2 (14:23):
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You took those clips totally of context.
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Let me put this into context. Shut up.
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Speaker 3 (15:08):
Hey, right, full lineup? You got a full line up?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh well, you know what, you gotta gotta keep it varied.
It'll be five very distinctly different shows. But I get
to bookend it with you and then Chris Blank on Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Should have been five days of already Span you'd but
what the heck.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
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letter writing campaign and do the Andy Do frame where
you write to a day until you get the answer.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You want to work for him though it did eventually
and I mean he still had to crawl through uh
that vile yeah to as we well know.
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NBA still still swirling out there. The most of the
(16:03):
free agent dollars have been spent in terms of things
that are gonna really move the needle and get tongues
wagging across our airwaves, aren't he For lack of a
better term, but one of the things that really was
kind of interesting to me Steph Curry kind of talking
he and Steve Kerr I Curry the coach of your
team USA, and had some your guy right when we
(16:26):
talk about you're gonna do the Arizona you know, little
sound effect herey guy. I knew we could get you there.
Is that you know, you say goodbye to Clay, talk
about statues and all of those, and as we talked
about at the end of the regular season and into
the playoff picture and where we're at now, it's like
you had to decide whether you're gonna do the nostalgia
(16:47):
tour or whether you're gonna move on instead, you bring
in Buddy healed and and try to have this new
iteration with Steph and Draymond in their final years with
the Warriors. But Steph making some headlines today talking about
I clearly can say that I want to be a
Warrior for life talking to Vince Goodwill, It's always been
(17:09):
my goal and I'm saying, sitting in the chair right now,
this is what I want. Well, here's the audio of
Steph making his claim about his future.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
You want to be that person that says I'm staying
with one franchise for my entire career or is it
just contingent upon where the franchise is.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, I mean I can clearly say I want to
be a Warrior for life. It's always been my goal,
and I'm saying that's sitting in this chair right now.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But like you said, life and.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Especially life in the NBA, it is a.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Wild environment, and things changed quickly, and the league has
changed quickly, so we're trying to adapt and evolve.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And yeah, so I'll let everybody know if that changes.
But right which means that door is a jar immediately. Well, no,
but immediately, And my ear, what did I get from
my executive producer, Justin Crosberg. Hello, Lakers.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, I I already said a text over to Mark
Willard up in San Francisco, going he's gone. He's gone.
Stop crying about it. He's gonna be gone out there.
Whenever somebody says, I want to be a so and
so for life, but life calls and you never know
what's going to happen. Pull that, you know, say that
(18:26):
to your wife and he goes, well, I want to
be married to you till I die, but you never
know which way life is going to drag me. No,
that that doesn't work. I can see what he's saying, though.
I can understand what he's saying, Mike, but I really
think at the end of his career he's going to
be gone. By the way, the Warriors should not have
let Klay Thompson go. He had called him up. I
(18:48):
guess the rumor was he was saying, I'll come back
for a two year, forty million, twenty million per I
know that Steph wanted him back. That's not a lot
of money, and plus he was probably gonna come off
the bench prize. They didn't give him that money for
the two years. They must have really wanted him gone,
my friend.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, but that becomes the question, right, like what's real
what's imagined in terms of the dollars in size? Right
that that people are like, we'll get into Paul George
next hour, you know. And he tried to put some
specificity on it, and I don't think he made himself
look terribly great it is in terms of how he
but look in the end, he ends up with a
much the extra year and another sixty million dollars. I
(19:25):
might going to fault a guy sixty to seventy when
it's all said, none, how do I fault a guy
for that? But for Steph Curry, it's also the I
don't want to be the bad guy. Is the way
he's couched it here, right, I want to be here
for life. But more or less says hey, that may
not be my decision. When it's also what.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Happened to Clay, if it could happen to Klay, can
happened to him.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
But but you got to be a realist, right with
Klay Thompson where he was as a player. You know,
we talk a lot now about two way players and
being able to help on the defensive end and I'm
not pretending that that's what Steph Curry is. He gives
you an honest effort and leave it at that. But
for Klay Thompson that way. Look, he was a great shooter,
(20:08):
and he was a great defender. Well he's not a
great defender anymore. The knee injuries, the leg injuries have
robbed him of that to where yeah, he can clamp
down for a bit, but not for the full forty
eight and certainly not eighty two times plus playoffs. I mean,
that's just not where he is physically. And the Warriors
did right by him. He got paid an exorbitant amount
(20:28):
of money and missed it a lot of time at
some point, so I point you, at some point you've
got to decide. It's like, all right, do we let
it run its natural course, which is where it's headed.
And it's a nostalgia act where we're hopeful to be
at the back end of the playoffs hopefully, or that
we're into the play in tournament and that's about as
(20:49):
good as it gets. And we've got to catch lightning
in a bottle and have all of these other guys
fall as if we're running around with voodoo dolls and
sticking pins in their legs and whatever else, so they
fall one by one and the pathway to an NBA
title avails itself again, or we're gonna be realists that
all right, Stephan Draymond more or less can still do
(21:09):
what they do, right, Draymond, for all of the hand
ringing that goes along with him, he's still a pretty
damn good player on both ends of the gay.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, but they're stuff far away from winning a championship.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
There's no better than the way, right, But why are
you gonna bring back clay when that Well, because it's.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Two it's a two year deal, that's the first thing.
I'm sure they probably could have traded him after one,
you know, mid season, to a contender that wants to
go ahead and make a run at an NBA championship,
So you probably wouldn't have been on the hook for
the full two years out there. Plus, what's gonna happen
when Steph Curry gets a little bit older and he's
gonna demand the fifty, the sixty to seventy, the eighty
(21:47):
million per year for a guy that's really not gonna
be producing as much as he used to be. He
has icon status, kind of the way the way Kobe
got some money towards the end of his career. Sure,
those last two years you're gonna have to pay stuff
that type of money. Are you gonna let him walk away?
I'm not so sure about that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well, but that becomes organization to organization, right, Which owner
governor whatever we're calling him these days, is willing to
do that? With Genie Buss and the Bus family, it's
still been important that you know, as much as we
deride it for running like a mom and pop, loyalty
still stands as one of the hallmarks. And that's part
(22:24):
of the Lebron James things like you brought him here,
you want to run it out, finish the job here,
and thinking that with a full season of health, a
little bit of luck dot dot dot Right, Well, yes,
obviously I'm talking that's you and me out here. Internally,
maybe they think they're closer than they are, right because
(22:45):
how many times did you hear, hey, if Vincent and
Vanderbilt were healthy, those were two prime defenders, et cetera.
Problem is you also got a year where your two
ones who have been hurt a lot stayed healthy. So
you know, wondering how that mixes the next year. I
don't know, but you've decided in Lake Up and Company,
you know, dun Leady Junior, you know you decide at
(23:07):
some point, all right, is this what we want to
do going forward? Are we going to be that franchise
that just says, well, even if he's diminished skills, he's
not hitting threes, can't get himself opened the same way playmaking,
et cetera. Are we still going to be behold into
paying that money out because he wants to continue playing
versus exiting stage left gracefully. Well, we're still a couple
(23:29):
of years from that. The answer is, I don't know
how their organizations, because there are some organizations they're going
to say, hey, we exhausted all your utility. Beat it right.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I'm not saying that the Lakers would have won a
championship last year, but I'm wondering how things would have
been different had they pulled out one, maybe both those
games against Denver that Denver hit on last second shots,
which were really those things that rarely happened, and they
hit two in one series. I wonder how would have
played different had the Lakers stole that or maybe even
stole the series. What would people would be saying about them,
(23:59):
and how close we'd be saying they are to an
NBA chap.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
But that's the thing, right, It's all all a game
of inches, and health comes in because how many people
derided the path that the Celtics took to get to
a time or the Mavericks running from the five seed
on the other you know, watching you know, injuries or
guys that are tripping over their tongues because they're tired,
et cetera. I still blame Michael Finley for it all.
(24:24):
He hadn't taken away Luca's superpower of his beard, his beer,
you know, like Popeye with his spinach, And when he
took away his beer when he was trying to have
a talk, I would have been salty. You emasculated the guy.
He earned that beer. Damn it.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, drink into the locker room, not out in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Whatever series is over, you want to move on. He's
got a couple of days before he's got to, you know,
strap it back on. And then you saw what he
did against Greece right in the Olympic qualifier. He was terrible. Yeah,
it's terrible. Turnover count crept up and now he he
goes home and oh my goodness, it's their first Olympics
(25:05):
since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Right, and he was just balling on the bench. He just,
you know, just couldn't help himself. I would love if
and I'm glad we have our full team out there.
But it doesn't seem like our uh, you know, our people,
the United Americans are into the Olympics like some of
the other countries. That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, it's it's a different it's a different animal, and
I think it's always been approached, at least from the
basketball side, a little bit differently. Right, going back to
ninety two and moving forward, Now.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
We'll just did our group. We got the easiest group ever.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, but that's the thing, right, it's all these.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I could play and we can get through.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I have seen you reign three pointers. I think that
footage is twenty years old, but yeah, exact, especially with
the size of size of pieces of cake that you
keep showing that at your pregame training table.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Twenty years Mike's in block and white.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I think Vin Scully was calling it.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
My stats are not good this year. I'm one for Vince.
Gully's dad was actually on the.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Ah, did you just say you one for nine?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah? For nine.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
So now you've officially become a chucker.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I gotta keep falling. I'm like, gotta keep shooting.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Shooter. Shoot.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That's what they do, That's what we do exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean, I know you're not playing a lick of defense.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
No, I have two blocks. That leads the team mate.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Come on, yeah, you caught up with two guys to
block their show.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
You just sneak up behind them and you know, knock
it away when they go up. Not that tough.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's the footage I want to see Arnie on the
defensive end because I know that is actually drawing a
guffa a big laugh from our guy, Steve tos Saker.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Oh yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
As we go. But but just for the finish, right,
And I know this was reported reputable reporters with the
two year, forty million dollars deal that you're doing, potentially
having been offered to Klay Thompson. But it's also you
start wondering about whether there was a fight about Roles.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, he didn't want to come off the bed, right.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Right, you're recognizing what you are at this point, right, Look, Dallas, Dallas,
from the five seed made their run and decided they
need to make another push. They went for you know,
with more money. Obviously we had the Lakers, who are
rumored to be with everybody. I mean, let's face it,
coming into free agency, and certainly in these studios, I
think a lot of guys on their ships spend a
(27:24):
lot of time photoshopping players into Lakers jerseys to see
how they'd look if free agency and the you know,
some sort of gust of wind would to carry him
this way. But yeah, it's it's everybody wants the respect
of the dollars, There's no question about it. That's part
of it goes back again to Paul George and some
(27:46):
of the other free agency decisions that come out here,
and certainly for Klay Thompson, knowing that they'd taken care
of Draymond at twenty five per for four years that
he was you know, trying to say, well I'm part
of that that threesome, so I shouldn't be the odd
man out. But again, skill sets and moving forward and
I shows I think it shows great maturity for the organization.
(28:10):
And people could say, well, you did the guy wrong,
and well, no, they did him right. And they re
signed him after a bunch of injuries, right, right, right,
I didn't see I didn't hear anybody's saying that when
he wasn't the same player necessarily for a good stretch
of that. And if we remember, the last time we
saw him was a big o for ten.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
But Clay is salty though he is soft. Well they
treated Draymont. They gave Draymont the contract. He felt each
of the got in the contract.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, you go in order, and now is Clay's time
and guess what his time was up. And they've got
to make moves for the future. Right, whether you like
Buddy healed or not, comes in He and Steph Curry.
You know, most prolific three point shooters the last couple
of years, right, I mean, we've seen all those numbers
getting pushed around and all the boards are built. And look,
(28:58):
I understand for Claire, I felt bad from Michael to Laker.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
What you need to become a Laker.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
What does that say that his own father couldn't get
him to the Lakers. What does that say that everybody
doesn't want to play with Lebron? That's really what it
is too. They don't want to go ahead and get
involved with what's happening in Los Angeles. The Lakers used
to be a must go destination. Now nobody wants to
play with Lebron.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, it's a difficult proposition because you're also looking at
it from the winning side. Because Buddy Heal said this too, right.
He was one of the big targets no no, but
but at the trade deadline the last couple of years,
and but he made sure to point out winning was
something that was important to him, right, And it seemed
like a little bit of a side eye toward Lakerland
(29:48):
when you go down that highway as well. And yes,
obviously you know we talk about sixteen trades and whatever.
As this all sorted out, you need a giant flow
chart to they can all work and to recognize the
dollars as they flow as well. Thank you so much,
Steve Desager at the news desk. We've got justin, We've
got Alex making us sound so pretty, Mike Carvin alongside
(30:10):
the Stink and genius himself. Arnie Spanier in for Jason Smith.
Thanks for giving us a few minutes of your time
as you get back into the throes of life following
the big long holiday weekend, and coming up next, we'll
go into my world, the hobby that I run through,
and I've got to issue a big statement of denial
after a two million dollars heist was perpetrated this weekend.
(30:34):
I didn't do it. I'm going full Bart Simpson next here.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Carmon. No Jason Tonight or this week all
star lineup starting with our guy Arnie Spanier at Sticking
Genius One. You hear him Sunday nights alongside Chris Plank,
who will join me on Friday as we roll through
the week. And this one big story in the hobby world, Spaniard.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I saw this.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And people immediately going, hey, Harmon, where were you? You
were out of you know, out of pocket, you kind
of disappeared a bit and everything else. And no, no, no,
it's it's not me. I promise you, my friends, my
brother and I nothing. Dallas Card Show one of the
biggest card shows that you do right, buying, selling, trading,
(31:30):
and the hobby doing very well right now, fanatics diving in.
Of course, Panini's still there in tops, the hallmark for baseball,
and a two million dollar theft occurred during setup time,
including six nineteen fifty two Mickey mantles. The you know, hey,
(31:50):
seventy thousand dollars reward is out there. But the photos
of the cards that are up there, I mean, you
want to talk about some of the biggest things in
the hobby history, from the early Willie Mays cards, Hank Aaron's,
the nineteen forty eight Satchel page, tons of mantals, including
as I said, six Rookies, one of which has a
price tag of one hundred and seventy five kon Wow. Yeah, yeah, no,
(32:13):
I mean we're talking.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I saw the video, did they They said they distracted
the owners.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
That what happened to Yeah, that's thing right during setup,
you got a lot of folks kind of wandering around.
There's reports that you had one guy that just kind
of was stacking chairs, So there was a bit of
an assumption that he worked there and was part of
this crew that eventually walked off with a case full
of some of the biggest cards in the in the
(32:39):
game's history because maybe go back trading cards go back
one hundred plus years. I mean, we all know about
the Honus Wagner famously owned one of the copies Gretzky
and mcnowell all those years ago and all the way through,
but the Mantle being probably the most recognizable card in
the hobby history outside of that Honus Wagon. I mean,
(33:00):
there's an early Warren Spawn Bowman card pictured, a couple
of Babe Roots, some early Pete Rose and Clemente cards,
old tobacco cards, aren't he I mean, this is the
stuff that when I go to shows, I just sit
there and I just you know, I sit in awe
in wonderment of those things. And somehow now that they've
(33:22):
been thefted in the hearts.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Gotta be sick. That guy's got to be sick. Who
owned it that just that got stolen from Well, there's.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
A lot of series that go well, but that's it,
right the insurance. Did they have enough security? Not just
the guy setting up, because if you're carrying that kind
of inventory, I would imagine you should. I men just
basic practice that you'd have one or two security guards
that you'd pay extra at the facility or I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Always abased when somebody robs a museum and just walks
out with the painting. I'm like, how does that happen?
Where's the security?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Well, sometimes because the paintings on the wall aren't the
actual paintings. Oh that's right, you're right, there's a bunch
of that going on. Drink wink of suddenly your kids
knocking him in the security guard doesn't seem terribly excitable,
like wait a minute, we're sorry, We're so sorry that whatever, Like, oh,
that's not really the painting now, is it sitting in
(34:15):
somebody's villa in the south of France or something like that.
But with these, I mean you're talking about cardboard gold
And the hard part is if they've been graded, right,
so one of the grading companies PSA or SGC or
Becket or whoever the case is, it's slabbed and it's
assigned a serial number, et cetera. Well, there's also a
way by which to get through those slabs pretty quickly,
(34:37):
crack them out without damaging the card, and then vallah,
Now you've got a raw card going back into the
marketplace or perhaps in for grading, and now it gets
a new serially serial number, et cetera, because distinguishing between them,
especially back then like now, a lot of cards are
serially numbered that are being submitted, right, so this one
(34:59):
is numbered out of twe twenty five is the one
to one whatever, all the way up into the hundreds
and thousand thousands, depending on the product and the print run.
But in this case, it's straight out of you know,
the old packs you bought at the five and dime
way back in the day and get slabbed. I mean,
there's no distinguishing marking. And yes, it's it could have
(35:20):
a bend that is similar, but trying to prove that
it is in fact, it's impossible.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
At first I thought maybe it was just a theft
of opportunity, that this seems more and more like it
was planned out though. Did they go after this one guy?
Did they know which cards they were going after? Did
they just say just whatever comes up, take the big cards,
let's run out. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I can tell you this from being around these things forever.
You see the same dealers and most of these big
shows right right, and the displays that they're carrying with
them don't change terribly much. Show to show, Yeah, they'll
sell off some of the big cards. Guess what with
other big cards? Right, Because if you're you're gonna pull
down one hundred and seventy five K for a mantle
(36:01):
that now gives you a liquid one hundred and seventy
five k to go find other mantles?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Why have six of them? Though? Why not just one?
When you sell that one, then put out another.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
They're all at different grades and different price points, right
if you got different price points, Like say you go
to the store and look at your cakes, right, you
want a big one? You know, maybe you're paying forty
bucks for that full cheesecake. Maybe you just want to
slice three ninety nine different products for different price points.
I got the same thing at the card shop or
at the card show, but here it looks pretty targeted.
(36:32):
Two million dollars plus the inventory sick. We'll see why
I would develop summer wondering. You know when insurance gets
involved in all of that. We've seen plenty of movies
about such chicanery in the past. Arnie Spaniard, no question
about it at stick a genius one where you think
about Twitter find me over at Swollen Dome coming out next, Hey,
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(36:54):
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