July 10, 2024 • 39 mins
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Let's go our two of the program by Carbon alongside
rich Or Murger. This is the Jason Smith Show with
me Mike Carmon here live from the Tyrac dot com studios.
Smith out this week gallivanting, uh, going through his inner
Harry Potter trying to cast spells and take over Europe.
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I came back. I didn't do anything. I got back
into the country. I know. There were a lot of
jokes on social media at Swollen Dome, especially with that
two million dollar card theft that went on at a
trading trading card show. I had nothing to do with it.
My brothers had nothing to do with it. Stop uh huh.
Perpetrating and perpetuating such lies, slatanderous I say as we
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should be. Yeah, Jason's uh really tried to foster the
idea that my brothers are a bunch of hoodlums, and
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that anything where there's sports and scandal involved in theft,
that somehow I am involved and they're involved. I work
under the cover of being a national radio host, so
I must just be the mastermind and I can talk
about it. So plausible deniability.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Right, So this is a giant front.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
You are actually a king beIN of a roving group
of miscreants that lord over the wide swath of the
Midwest or northern Midwest?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Is that my understanding?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That's that's kind of the way it's been laid out. Okay,
So you know there was a giant piece of equipment
that went missing at the Bears facilities. That's right, guess
what I had to be us.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, that's the that's the Chicago Harmons.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, and then there was a two million dollar theft
of some really amazing trading cards, including six Mickey Mantle
rookies from nineteen fifty two. Not really a rookie. He
was at a fifty one. But you know, semantics, the
famous card that and a bunch of others totally about
two million dollars. So it became immediately, hey where were
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you and your brothers? It was captured on video and
it looks nothing like any of us.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
But well, you know, I mean but you you.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I mean, disguises obviously are available. I mean nowadays, I
mean you can really look however you want.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh, you could go through the whole Yeah, plenty of
places will find you dolls, masks, whatever you need to do.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
M I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I don't know, simulate reality all of a sudden.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Listen, Jason Smith might have a point here. I mean,
I if there's one.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Hey, he's the guy, that's the who's admitted to a
federal crime of stealing a mailbox once upon a time.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, he's a he's also a sick man. I think something. Uh,
I think there is.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Clip that off. Well we'll use that when he comes back.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
He's also a sick man, There's no question about it.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I mean, he's a real sick puppy. And that's the
reason why. I think they paired you guys together and
put you right where you belong, right seven to eleven.
You know you're you're like, like you said, we just
an hour or two away from safe harbor.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I mean that's really all you can handle.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
One step short of jail, that's right.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah, you guys, you have one step in a a
holding tank and the other on a banana peel.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, for four hours, they know where we are. That's right,
right you U lord over Morning Zoo down in San Diego.
During the week, that's on the airwaves here a Fox
Sports Radio on Saturdays doing some gambling talk, prognostication and
breakdown with Brian no and with Jared Smith. And then
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on Sundays, you know, you try to contain Steve Hartman, which,
as we know, is a tough task.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, good Nue.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
We still there's no container for Steve. There has been
no found Steve Hartman size containers.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, there's no question about it. So yeah, all of
that to say here we are thank you for being
part of our extended family. We appreciate you taking the time.
I fill the bostered enough because I know this one
Frostburg took personally Devanta Adams stopped by with k Adams
on her show and was talking about all sorts of things.
One Aaron Rodgers still lobbying and saying, I'm gonna get
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you to New York, man, I'm gonna get you to
New York. But also he talked about really not liking
as much as we did because I love the creativity
of schedule release, and the Chargers team has been far
and away for the last couple of years. I think
if we were going to do the the Metal Stand,
I mean, they would be holding the gold medal as
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we get ready for Olympic season. In terms of schedule
release and the hilarity in the little easter eggs, well,
he didn't find a lot of humor in what the
Chargers had to do. When he fired back, got at.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Him a little bit of go where you know, few
of the social media pages were posting some some funny
stuff of you know, when the schedule was releasing, so
they posted me and then like a trash can or
something like that, the Chargers did. So I thought about
responding on social media to it and you know, being
funny there, but I figured it'd be better to, you know,
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just beat their head in and real life and continue
doing it the way, you know, because my present them,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Know, they clearly forgot yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Forty one yards in a touchdown and then the next
time that same year it was like one hundred and
seventy seven yards and you know, two touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I think it was that game.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
So I just wanted to kind of remind them what
they've been going through as it pertains the plan against
me and hopefully the people that had made that post,
because it's not the player's fault.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
They didn't have anything to do with the posts.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
But this is directed strictly toward the charge of social media.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Pick talk about soft guys. Wow, wow, who's softer him?
Or Novak Jokovic, because you saw Yokovic right going after
Uh the fans of his opponent, guy's name was ruined
and he's like, oh, you're disrespectful whatever. But Devanta Adams
with this, I mean yeah, they were garbage flavored pop tarts,
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so yeah, well a little on the nose and the
right or burger you played for the Bolts, Yeah yeah, garbage.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah, listen, I I can't really defend them. Uh. The
the the Raiders culture is an interesting one. Because the
Raiders have this culture of great success, but they were
menaces right during the the John Madden days, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And all the way through yeah, I mean for decades. Yeah,
and they were in the headlines, not not necessarily for
the most positive things. They're fans carry a stigma that
will never die no matter how nice Allegiance Stadium and
how much it looks like the Death Star, right and.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
You know, there's that feeling of, you know, the Raiders
are almost comically over penalized.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Over the course of time. You know.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
It's it's what's interesting about the Raiders, though, is what
they're missing right now that that I think really separates
most teams, you know, even the bad teams. Like, let's
face it, like the Cincinnati Bengals have been overall, especially
in their division, kind of a bad team, but they've
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run into quality quarterbacks who have been able to elevate them,
you know, the Carson Palmer days, Andy Dalton days, getting
to the playoffs, during the Marvin Lewis coaching days, you know.
Now moving on to to Joe Burrow, I mean, like
there are certain franchises that kind of have a similar
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vibe as the Raiders, Like all of the menaces from
around football are welcome. Will be an unruly bunch, but
we're going to have success only when we have a
good quarterback. When's the last time the Oakland or Las
Vegas Raiders really had a good quarterback playing great football?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I mean Derek Carr back, Well, he did have that
one year?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Was it twenty fifteen? How long ago is that? Was
it twenty nineteen?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know, it's like twenty fifteen or twenty six? Eight year?
Is funny because I mentioned this yesterday, right, it was Hey,
they had no injuries that whole season. That might have
been the healthiest, you know, No, the fantasy gods and
the football gods were smiling on them, and just like that,
it was broke Derek Carr.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Unfortunately, his legacy in in Las.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Vegas is going to be It's going to be.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Summed up in that one sentence. You know, you remember.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Okay, So why was Matthew Stafford, even after leaving Detroit
having limited success in Detroit, Harold did so much? It
was because the the one like, in irrefutable, indelible impression
that Detroit Lions fans had of him was that that
toughness play that he made where it was ninety seconds
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of his shoulder hanging out of the socket and completing
a touchdown pass and then rush rushing to the line
of scrimmage to score the two point conversion.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Or maybe it was the.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Goal I play for the touch sound I forget and
he was just grimacing the entire time before having his
separated shoulder put back into place on the sideline. Like
Stafford and Derek Carr with their given organizations, both draft
picks of the Lions and the Raiders, respectively, they will
be remembered so differently, and it's not Derek Carr's fault necessarily.
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During his time there, how often did they have a
great defense? To answer is very rarely. They were Swiss
geees on that side of the ball. They couldn't stop
anybody for the majority of his career. How often did
they have an offensive line that was even in the
top ten.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
In the NFL? The answer is very rarely.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
So, I mean, he didn't have a ton of help
during his time there, But the old club Raiders, even
with DeVante Adams, it's a little bit like lipstick on
a pig.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
It really is, because who's throwing him the football this year?
You know? I mean, what's the answer to that question?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
And there hasn't been an answer to that question since
what Stabler.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I mean, when was the last time.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Had that good run? Oh yeah, there you go, Rich
him hanging out with Timmy Brown and Jerry Rice, So
we got that. But yeah, I mean this year it's
Garner Minshew, who I think we all love and are
fascinated by the man and the brand and the image
that he projects. But we all know he turns into
a pumpkin. And then he got Aidan O'Connell, who to
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say he was uneven would be kind, I would agree.
So yeah, it's but for Devontae Adams, I would say
it this way, you know, and it's soft on one hand.
On the other, if this is what's got to motivate
you for those two games a year because you're a
raider and you know it's a lot on your effort. Uh,
that's going to determine how well you're able to play,
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and that the quarterback and the position that you're in,
because again he did drop the hey Aaron keeps reaching
out kind of thing in the middle of it, right,
So you got that going for you that if if
that's what motivates you. I mean, all the all time greats.
They gotta find something to stay pissed off and motivator, right,
Michael Jordan, I took that personally, staring at that iPad.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Oh he was still bad. He was still bad.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Right, here's later, He's still salty. So DeVante Adams here
getting salty and calling out the which is amazing to me. Hey, hey,
social media guys, jerks, I'm coming after you.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Soft, But you know, again, you find your motivation, and well,
we all kind of have to do the same thing
in our lives, right, you know, you get up, you
put your pants on one leg at a time, maybe
you hop in both. I don't know, but the idea
being that in the end, you got to find something
that motivates you. Whether it's fear of being evicted, fear
of that bill come and do, or your boss just
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being a pain in the ass, whatever the case is,
you go to work every day and you find motivation.
For Devonte Adams here trying to maybe he's trying to
just play tough guy and impress k Adams. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah, listen, he wouldn't be the first, and I promise
you he won't be the last.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
That is DRAMs.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
He's shy.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Here's here's the reality of the situation in that division.
DeVante Adams can, you know, dig his heels in and
say ooh, you know, shake his fist at the Chargers
and the Chargers control him on social media and who knows,
maybe even the Denver Broncos at some point went through
the fray. But as long as Patrick Mahomes is patrolling
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the AFC West, I think everybody would do themselves a
favor and look eastward because that's where the true contender is.
Nobody is going to survive that division until they figure
out a way to diffuse that bomb in Kansas City.
And I don't know, I don't know if there's anybody
who can. Let's face it, as stacked as the forty
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nine Ers are, if they end up rematched against the
Kansas City Chiefs in a Super Bowl, you're taking the Niners.
I mean I can in good conscience. I mean that
is the best team in football until proven otherwise. So
the AFC West, you know, the quibbling between the Chargers
social media team, the interns who run it, and Devanta Adams,
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that all is back burner.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You know stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Meanwhile, Travis Kelce is dating the most famous human being
on the planet, and they have the best quarterback who's
ever played the game still manning that offense.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
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Speaker 3 (15:41):
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This week, My got rich Ornberger sitting in for him
this evening our esteem colleague, former NFL lineman Penn State alone.
I actually have a trading card of rich Orberger in
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Speaker 4 (16:11):
Hang out to that. It's gonna be worth something one day.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
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Speaker 4 (16:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
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That's that's really just ready for it. Either that or
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Phillies and the Dodgers. It's our buddy, John Paul Morosi.
Find him on Twitter at John Morosi JP. As always
longtime friend of the show. Good to have you back
in once again today, and I'll ask the question for Frostburg,
what the hell happened to the Dodgers?
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Well, Mike and Rich, good evening, my friend, Uh, to
to borrow a bit of the of one line the
that we that we had on the track that brought
us back from break. Uh, the Dodgers were not so
fresh and so clean this evening that they were. They
were the opposite of fresh and clean this evening. With
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with a tip of the cap to to outcast there,
I'll say this, it has never been more apparent that
the Dodgers need to acquire a starting pitcher and maybe
even multiples at the deadline. When you look at the
struggles of Bobby Miller, and clearly he's missed time this season.
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He didn't didn't look comfortable tonight. The location on the
pitches was off. In a good Major league lineup like
the Phillies, will will sting you every time for that.
And then you look at the rest of the picture.
The glass now injured list, Bueler injured list, Yamamoto injured list,
Khrushaw injured list, has yet to pitch in the Major
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leagues season. You go down the line, guys, and I'm
I'm concerned. Not it's still a great team when everybody's healthy,
but everybody's not healthy right now. And I think it's
now the point where, of course, the All Star Games
next week, the Draft is next week, the trade deadline
is now basically three weeks from right now, it's going
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to be over. So their their window to upgrade their
pitching staff is immediately, and fortunately for them, there is
plenty of good supply out there. You could get a
Frankie Montass from the Red you can get a yuse
Kikuchi from the Blue Jays, even if you're not going
into the Garrett Crochet or Trek Skouoble neighborhood. But they've
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got some work to do, and I think a night
like this makes it a tough loss to take. But
it is an absolute, clear, clear flashing red light to
the front office that they need to make some upgrades
to the deadline.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Sometimes you know, for fans, you want it to be clear.
You don't want the picture to be muddled heading into
the deadline. And I think the Dodgers have a clear need.
And many teams, dude, you know the answer to this
next question maybe.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
The same team we're just talking about JP. But if
you could humor.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Me, is there a team that sticks out in your
head amongst the thirtieth Major League Baseball right now that
needs the All Star break more than any of the
other teams out there.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
I think the Seattle Mariners, who actually they're playing well tonight,
they're winning seven to nothing over the Padres, but they
have been leaking oil a little bit in the last
couple of weeks to the Houston Astros in the American
League West Race. And whether it's Julia Rodriguez who missed
some time you had to have an MRI on a
nagging injury actually came back to lane up tonight hit
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a home run, so maybe that's all he needed. But
I think Julio has much more to give than what
he's shown so far. He's a first class person. I
just think that it hasn't worked out for him in
the first half of the season. So take take the break, refocus, recharge,
come out, and then make a statement in the second half.
And the Mariners, when you consider where they're at, they've
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played half a season, more than half a season now
and are still in first place, even though their best
player has not been their best player. That is to me,
a team that does have some urgency needs the break,
and I think will be better in the second half
as a result. I think the Yankees too, with some
of their struggles rich that bullpen in particular has been
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an issue. Clay Holmes is an All Star, but the
pathway from the starters to get to him has become very,
very unsettled in recent weeks, and part of that's because
the starters haven't been as good. Carlos Rodin struggled again today.
Luis Keel has not been nearly the same picture in
June and July that he was in the first two
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months of the season. So I look at the Yankees
right now as certainly needing the break. The momentum, honestly
at the moment belongs to the Boston Red Sox. That
they keep playing well, they're somewhat under man don't have
a huge barrel any longer, at least in relative terms,
but with what they've done, they're sort of the I
never thought i'd say this, sort of like the underdog
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sentimental favorite those the small town in Boston. I say
this obviously with a more than a little bit of irony.
They are now the underdogs, and we'll see how things
play out.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Now in the second half, and they'll be floating out
here to play the Dodgers after the all start ake
right away. John Paulmrosi with us here MLB Network, longtime
friend of the show, the podcast where he's going through
the veritable Who's who, and by that I mean Hall
of Famers latest. I saw you promoting with the Wizard
of Oz getting after it as well, and JP, you know,
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I saw comments from another Hall of Famer, George Brett,
and I'll agree with him. When are we going to
go back to the old style of trying to hit
the baseball? The old Charlie Law kind of rule of
order instead of everybody batting one ninety.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Tell you what, there is a lot to like about
what George Brett said. And and it's for those who
didn't see the quote or here the here the part
of the interview. He basically said that the issue with
launch angle is is you're you're passing the bat through
the hitting zone. The more the more vertical you get,
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the less time you give yourselfself horizontally to make contact
with a ball that is more or less typically coming
at you at more of a horizontal trajectory. And it's
basic physics. Makes a lot of sense to me. It
was somewhat remarkable, uh many of the comments, uh that
it got a fair amount of traction on on ax
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here the last couple of weeks. The remarkable the amount
of comments who basically said, and I'm paraphrasing here because
I could not read the direct quotes along the lines of, well,
what does George Brett know about how to hit in
Major League baseball right now? As if the physics of
a of a spherical object and a bat have changed
that much since retired, It really is interesting to think
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about it. I just tend to think that George Brett
has a lot of smart things to say about about
the subject of many others. And again, like, look at
the players that in the eighties and early nineties that
we all wanted to emulate. It was Tony Gwynn, George Brett,
guys who were winning batting titles, Guys who just had
an absolute innate sense of what to do with the
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bat and could basically paint the canvas of the field
with line drives. And that's Luis Araas is that way,
But not a lot of other players are at the moment.
And that's why if I'm at the trade deadline, I'm
looking for guys that put the ball in play, that
or that at least don't how to draw a walk.
There's just way too many strikeouts relative to walks right now,
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and to me, it really stands out. You know, it
was interesting. I was earlier tonight I was talking with
some friends from Seattle about the Mariners and they're batting
in the low two hundreds, and the question came from
my friends in Seattle sports there about have we ever
seen a team win the World Series with a lineup
like this? And I went back in history. I thought
about the Giants of twenty ten. That was basically Pat Burrow,
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Aubrey huff Buster posey, and then the rotation. That's how
they won games, a lot of two to one, three
to two, three to one type of games. And yet
their batting average was around the two fifties, substantially and
better than what the Mariners are right now. Our understanding
of what is a good team batting average has gotten
so skewed in the last ten years it's remarkable. So
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I think the postseason still guys belongs to the teams
that can find a way to put it in play
in key situations like the Nationals a few years ago
with Howie Kendrick and HadAM Eaten. That approach I believe
is still vitally important and one that I think is
crucial not moving forward.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
I'm so glad you said that, because I really feel
the same exact way that you feel that Brett Field.
When you have there's a certain coefficient and I don't
know what the number is, but it feels like there
is a constant number, and you could have more, but
you can't have less of those type of players who
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are selfless hitters, who will get on base, who will
you know, occasionally turn a shoulder into a ball that's
that's close to hitting them to get on whatever it
takes just to move men over on the base path.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
You have to have those guys.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
And there's a certain called a Mendoza line, you know,
I know that's typically used for batting average. But you
need a certain number of players who are willing to
do those sort of things. And then obviously you'll have
your variables. You know, you'll have certain players who you
know they're on the lineup because of their defensive abilities,
and some of them who are getting paid, you know,
handsomely to hit a whole lot of home runs for
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you and cash in on those base runners. But but
what would you what would you put that number at?
Like about how many of those small ballers, you know,
those guys who are willing to take the base instead
of try to grab the glory that you need to have.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
To go on a deep playoff run these.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Days, I think you need to have a lineup with
at least three or four of them who are good
at that who are and listen, you can have a
certain number of players in your lineup who swing for
the downs, so to speak, and when you've got someone
like Aaron Judge, Juan Soto. They are elite both in
terms of hitting for average and for power. But what
(26:22):
you're describing, Rich, you've had a chance to see up
close in this year's development of Jerks and Profar, who's
in the middle of his career, but he basically already
this year has has walked as many times in twenty
four as he did almost all of last season, and
is on base percentage has leapt up to above forty
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percent of the time, which players nowadays just aren't They're
not doing that, And so I think that what Jerks
and Profar has done, he has not sacrificed the power
and production to get on base more often. It's difficult
to do, and he's certainly, you know, once upon a
time was one of the best prospects in the game.
He's delivering on that promise now as an All Star
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and proving to everybody that you can still do both.
It's just a matter of I think, making good swing
decisions and just keeping that bat in the zone more often.
It I think, unfortunately, Rich, one thing that's happened in
this game in recent years is there has been a
divergence between what gets you paid individually and what wins
(27:29):
for your team. And this is goodness. I hope a
bunch of travel sports parents listen to this and we think, well,
we all and the hope with the coaches most importantly
think about this. It's what's best for the individual versus
what the manager really wants for his team, and that
now has to be resolved because there's no way that
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Profile should have been unsigned for as long as he was.
Well why wasn't he Because they're not a huge power guy,
and you had teams chasing power with other plays that
aren't as good as profar and but they were, they
were enthralled by the power and now Profile is doing both.
So I hope that this is a This is a
big lesson to a lot of front offices about exactly
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what kind of players you should really be prioritizing in
the offseason. And yes, at the deadline now less than
three weeks away.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
John Morossi our guest, no Mets or White Sox talk today,
I want to circle back to the Yankees as my
last one for you. JP Cashman went down to Tampa.
Have you've got Hank Steinber or hol Steinberg? Sorry is
down there as well, seventeen losses, twenty three ins. At
what point does Brian Cashman's seat really actually get hot
(28:43):
or do we That's just something we talk about it.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
It's a great question he when you think about the
duration of his job and the amount of pressure on him,
it is one of the longer and more more drama
and more remarkable runs in modern pro sports history. What
he's what he's been able to do. You think about again,
(29:07):
with all due respect to the great football coaches and
what Nick Saban did at Alabama and others, they're coaching
fourteen fifteen games a year. Brian Cashman is living and
dying one hundred and sixty two times a year with
that pressure, and then October is like He's like one
big long panic attack for basically five straight weeks. So
(29:31):
I want to have a little moment of appreciation for
Brian what he's done. So it was funny. Actually it's
like two thousand and six. I was the Yankee Stadium,
the old Yankee Stadium for the playoffs, and I was
there with my with my mentor, John Low, and we
saw Brian in the old cafeteria dining room there, which
was iconic in its own right, and we say, hey, Brian,
good to see you, you know, started the playoffs. What a
great time of year, and he looks at us like like, man, yeah,
(29:56):
I'm happy. But this is also agonizing because at that point,
as you know, from both being involved in pro sports
for so long, there's nothing that GM can do. But
there is right now once again to October you can't.
Now you got a lot to do. And I think
that that Brian Cashman is his seat hot. They still
have it last checked, like a ninety seven percent chance
(30:18):
to make the playoffs. As long as they're in the dance,
I think that the seat will not be actually hot
until sometime in the offseason. But Brian Cashman, have you
noticed a lot of his comments in recent years, He
has driven so far past the zero bleeps you have
left to give sign that I think he's totally cool
with what he's done. He's got all these the World
(30:40):
Series rings. He's in pretty good.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Shape, I think, no question about it. On the call
Phillies and Dodgers on Thursday, to our body, m MLB
Network Baseball Insider and of course always a welcome guest
and voice here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey JP at
John Morosi where you find on Twitter. Pretty soon we'll
be talking Lions and Michigan football, So get rid of.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
I know it. But by the way, and I'm excited.
I think I'm gonna be on the two polls and
a cup of Joe later on the week. I got
to congratulate LeVar in person for his son committing to
Penn State. I know, Rich, there's probably some good ones
put him by you as well. I think LeVar Arrington
the Second made a great choice. Huge respect for Penn State,
and I wish your team all the best.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Is fall No, I appreciate that very much.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Same to U M as they try to defend their
national title with a much busier big ten. And I
agree with what you said about LaVar Arrington the second.
One thing that Penn State is known for linebackers. One
other thing they're lesser known for. But they've generated a
lot of them pass rushers, and he's going to be
rushing off the edge for the Nitney Lions. I'm really
(31:46):
excited for him and for his dad. And we are
you know that story.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
I know indeed you are Penn State. The Leavar Leap
take two. I love it. I'm excited about that.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
See if he can go and destroy Illinois the same way.
See a letter JP. Be good, have a great call.
Talk to you next week at JA. Paul Morosi our
MLB insider coming up next up Fox Sports Radio. How
about a coaches combine or at least one athletic feet.
I want to see them. Do one coach teas that
he might be doing that coming out next. I think
I can outrun this guy, and I don't say that often.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
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Speaker 3 (32:29):
Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with me Mike Harmon now dancing in the studio. No
Jason Smith. Our guy Rich Ornberger is sitting in at
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down in San Diago each morning as part of a
show there, and then obviously Fox Sports Weekends doing some
betting work and then tormenting Steve Hartman as always. Story
that caught my eye and I thought you would be
entertained by this as you know, the NFL Rules of
the World one of Ty Shirt's other favorite songs. By
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the way, if you haven't seen the Bad Blood video,
go and watch the Bad Blood video. That's for everybody
not now. At your leisure when we're not on air
right now, you should be evangelizing to friends and family
that shou'd be listening to the greatness of the show.
But did you realize that there's an off season Hard
Knocks being played right now?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yes? It did.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
And you know what I didn't realize about it was
that it was going to be as dramatic or cinematic as.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
The regular Hard Knocks. But of course it is right.
You know it's going to be narrated. They're going to
put all the production into it.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well, you got to find storylines where you can, and
find characters and where you can. But it's a new
Football Giants this time rich and let's face it, they're
one of the franchises a lot of head scratching. Last year,
Joe and gets hurt, people hate him because he got paid.
Saquon Barkley's an eagle. All sorts of chaos ensues and
(34:07):
will wait eagerly for the next iteration of the squad.
But we're seeing off season hard Knocks, And as I
said earlier in the program, hard knocks for me is one,
it's it's it's an occupational mus must watch. But for
my own personal enjoyment and edification that that's gone long
long ago in terms of storylines, because now it's like formulaic,
(34:28):
like a reality show. It's like, all right, this is
the part of the season where we find out about
this guy, or they have the trip home or whatever,
and really not not really much to the formula that changes.
But how about this Brian Dable from boasting during the
scouting combine that he could run the forty in seven seconds?
Are you buying Brian Dabele? And now he's lost a
(34:51):
bunch of weight now that I have seen, right, he's
been on some red carpets and he's done somethings. So
he's like, he's a guy that you know, he and
his family they did some things health wise, so's he's
looking a little leaner and meaner as he approaches the
twenty twenty four season. But it's also the seven seconds.
I don't know that I'm buying that, but I would
tune in to watch that and maybe I'll you know,
(35:13):
take the physical challenge and go do that myself.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
I'm curious, and I don't know the answer to this
question because his appearance smacks of former offensive lineman, you know,
just like a thick neck, bald, aggressive beard, like you
just think offensive lineman. But I'm not even sure if
he's a big guy like in terms of like height wise,
I don't know what his measurables are, So I don't
(35:38):
know if he's got a playing history. You know, did
he did he tap out of high school football? Did
he play in college at all? Did he ever have
any time in the NFL? My assumption is no, but
I don't know if that's the case. So I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I'm very like eight years old.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah, he played college football with the Rochester Yellow Jackets.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Okay, there you go, sus a former.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Graduated and goes from there. So okay, he stands five to.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Ten Okay, all right, but you know, look, I mean
some of the fastest people on the planet are you know,
hover around five ten to six foot.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Let me think what position.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I kind of dug that the fastest people on Earth
as we're talking about Brian Dable. I like the way
you do that straight line, like you're going through it
and you're trying to do the math in your head. Right,
you're because you were talking about coefficients and we were
talking hitting angles and everything with John Paumrosi. No, I
was like, let's do the math here the fastest people
(36:40):
in the world five ten to six one. And they're like, no,
we're talking about Brian Table. That's why you know that
that coefficient out front.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Is whoa hang on a second, now, hang on a second,
now check this out.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
So I realized he was playing at the University of Rochester. However,
the position he played was defensive back.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
He was a safety.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Yeah, okay, so listen, the guys gotta have a little
bit of witchiness.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Maybe he had some twitchiness back in the early nineties
when he was playing some college ball, right. I bet guys,
if you put some pies at the end of the
forty oh my god, it's just that you went for
the low hanging I can say fruit, but it wouldn't
be fruit. Maybe it's a fruit pie.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Well it could be yeah, yeah, I mean honestly, and
RB's apple pie.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Those are better than people would realize. I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Think this before after consuming a five for five.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Well, the five for five, I mean, that's a commitment
in it with Horsey sauce. No, the pies are not.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
However, you can add it additionally if you do, like
a little horse radish.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
On your dounge apples.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
But I will say this, yeah, maybe if you incentivize
this somehow, it'll get a little bit more, get a
little bit of the hitch out of the gidea. I
will say this, athletes kind of main athletes at all ages.
Now that that not all of them age pretty and
and he tapped out after a head injury or a
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neck injury at University of Rochester. So I think he's
got in terms of like lower body joints, kind of
low mileage, you know, because he didn't finish up a
college career. I think it's possible, man that if if
he's lost enough weight, and I haven't seen a recent
picture of him, he.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Looks pretty good.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeah, all right, you know what I buy it.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Maybe maybe we're all in and maybe we have to
do the physical challenge. Maybe that becomes part of the
radio combine. I like that as I'm trying to get
lean and mean myself.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah, you know, so you tell you what I saw
the reacent Instagram Live.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
You're looking you're you're looking leaner for it.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I'm leaner, but you know I still look tired. Did
that look like the face of a man who had
just been on vacation.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
No, you look like a man who's exhausted, who's been
exhausted by life many times.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
So well, that's it, though the long road continues, and
like this in his later years, Yeah, that's his later years.
Speaker 8 (39:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
He died in forty two.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Yeah, right before bacon, peanut butter and banana sandwich and
a trip to the John.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I feel like I want a fried, peanut butter and
banana sandwich. As we speak, he's rich Jordan Berger al
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Smith out this week gallivanting, uh, going through his inner
Harry Potter trying to cast spells and take over Europe.
(00:50):
I came back. I didn't do anything. I got back
into the country. I know. There were a lot of
jokes on social media at Swollen Dome, especially with that
two million dollar card theft that went on at a
trading trading card show. I had nothing to do with it.
My brothers had nothing to do with it. Stop uh huh.
Perpetrating and perpetuating such lies, slatanderous I say as we
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should be. Yeah, Jason's uh really tried to foster the
idea that my brothers are a bunch of hoodlums, and
(01:36):
that anything where there's sports and scandal involved in theft,
that somehow I am involved and they're involved. I work
under the cover of being a national radio host, so
I must just be the mastermind and I can talk
about it. So plausible deniability.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Right, So this is a giant front.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
You are actually a king beIN of a roving group
of miscreants that lord over the wide swath of the
Midwest or northern Midwest?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Is that my understanding?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That's that's kind of the way it's been laid out. Okay,
So you know there was a giant piece of equipment
that went missing at the Bears facilities. That's right, guess
what I had to be us.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, that's the that's the Chicago Harmons.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, and then there was a two million dollar theft
of some really amazing trading cards, including six Mickey Mantle
rookies from nineteen fifty two. Not really a rookie. He
was at a fifty one. But you know, semantics, the
famous card that and a bunch of others totally about
two million dollars. So it became immediately, hey where were
(02:42):
you and your brothers? It was captured on video and
it looks nothing like any of us.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
But well, you know, I mean but you you.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I mean, disguises obviously are available. I mean nowadays, I
mean you can really look however you want.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh, you could go through the whole Yeah, plenty of
places will find you dolls, masks, whatever you need to do.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
M I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I don't know, simulate reality all of a sudden.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Listen, Jason Smith might have a point here. I mean,
I if there's one.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Hey, he's the guy, that's the who's admitted to a
federal crime of stealing a mailbox once upon a time.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, he's a he's also a sick man. I think something. Uh,
I think there is.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Clip that off. Well we'll use that when he comes back.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
He's also a sick man, There's no question about it.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I mean, he's a real sick puppy. And that's the
reason why. I think they paired you guys together and
put you right where you belong, right seven to eleven.
You know you're you're like, like you said, we just
an hour or two away from safe harbor.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I mean that's really all you can handle.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
One step short of jail, that's right.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah, you guys, you have one step in a a
holding tank and the other on a banana peel.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, for four hours, they know where we are. That's right,
right you U lord over Morning Zoo down in San Diego.
During the week, that's on the airwaves here a Fox
Sports Radio on Saturdays doing some gambling talk, prognostication and
breakdown with Brian no and with Jared Smith. And then
(04:12):
on Sundays, you know, you try to contain Steve Hartman, which,
as we know, is a tough task.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, good Nue.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
We still there's no container for Steve. There has been
no found Steve Hartman size containers.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, there's no question about it. So yeah, all of
that to say here we are thank you for being
part of our extended family. We appreciate you taking the time.
I fill the bostered enough because I know this one
Frostburg took personally Devanta Adams stopped by with k Adams
on her show and was talking about all sorts of things.
One Aaron Rodgers still lobbying and saying, I'm gonna get
(04:46):
you to New York, man, I'm gonna get you to
New York. But also he talked about really not liking
as much as we did because I love the creativity
of schedule release, and the Chargers team has been far
and away for the last couple of years. I think
if we were going to do the the Metal Stand,
I mean, they would be holding the gold medal as
(05:07):
we get ready for Olympic season. In terms of schedule
release and the hilarity in the little easter eggs, well,
he didn't find a lot of humor in what the
Chargers had to do. When he fired back, got at.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Him a little bit of go where you know, few
of the social media pages were posting some some funny
stuff of you know, when the schedule was releasing, so
they posted me and then like a trash can or
something like that, the Chargers did. So I thought about
responding on social media to it and you know, being
funny there, but I figured it'd be better to, you know,
(05:39):
just beat their head in and real life and continue
doing it the way, you know, because my present them,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Know, they clearly forgot yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Forty one yards in a touchdown and then the next
time that same year it was like one hundred and
seventy seven yards and you know, two touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I think it was that game.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
So I just wanted to kind of remind them what
they've been going through as it pertains the plan against
me and hopefully the people that had made that post,
because it's not the player's fault.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
They didn't have anything to do with the posts.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
But this is directed strictly toward the charge of social media.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Pick talk about soft guys. Wow, wow, who's softer him?
Or Novak Jokovic, because you saw Yokovic right going after
Uh the fans of his opponent, guy's name was ruined
and he's like, oh, you're disrespectful whatever. But Devanta Adams
with this, I mean yeah, they were garbage flavored pop tarts,
(06:30):
so yeah, well a little on the nose and the
right or burger you played for the Bolts, Yeah yeah, garbage.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah, listen, I I can't really defend them. Uh. The
the the Raiders culture is an interesting one. Because the
Raiders have this culture of great success, but they were
menaces right during the the John Madden days, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And all the way through yeah, I mean for decades. Yeah,
and they were in the headlines, not not necessarily for
the most positive things. They're fans carry a stigma that
will never die no matter how nice Allegiance Stadium and
how much it looks like the Death Star, right and.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
You know, there's that feeling of, you know, the Raiders
are almost comically over penalized.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Over the course of time. You know.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
It's it's what's interesting about the Raiders, though, is what
they're missing right now that that I think really separates
most teams, you know, even the bad teams. Like, let's
face it, like the Cincinnati Bengals have been overall, especially
in their division, kind of a bad team, but they've
(07:49):
run into quality quarterbacks who have been able to elevate them,
you know, the Carson Palmer days, Andy Dalton days, getting
to the playoffs, during the Marvin Lewis coaching days, you know.
Now moving on to to Joe Burrow, I mean, like
there are certain franchises that kind of have a similar
(08:11):
vibe as the Raiders, Like all of the menaces from
around football are welcome. Will be an unruly bunch, but
we're going to have success only when we have a
good quarterback. When's the last time the Oakland or Las
Vegas Raiders really had a good quarterback playing great football?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I mean Derek Carr back, Well, he did have that
one year?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Was it twenty fifteen? How long ago is that? Was
it twenty nineteen?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know, it's like twenty fifteen or twenty six? Eight year?
Is funny because I mentioned this yesterday, right, it was Hey,
they had no injuries that whole season. That might have
been the healthiest, you know, No, the fantasy gods and
the football gods were smiling on them, and just like that,
it was broke Derek Carr.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Unfortunately, his legacy in in Las.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Vegas is going to be It's going to be.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Summed up in that one sentence. You know, you remember.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Okay, So why was Matthew Stafford, even after leaving Detroit
having limited success in Detroit, Harold did so much? It
was because the the one like, in irrefutable, indelible impression
that Detroit Lions fans had of him was that that
toughness play that he made where it was ninety seconds
(09:37):
of his shoulder hanging out of the socket and completing
a touchdown pass and then rush rushing to the line
of scrimmage to score the two point conversion.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Or maybe it was the.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Goal I play for the touch sound I forget and
he was just grimacing the entire time before having his
separated shoulder put back into place on the sideline. Like
Stafford and Derek Carr with their given organizations, both draft
picks of the Lions and the Raiders, respectively, they will
be remembered so differently, and it's not Derek Carr's fault necessarily.
(10:11):
During his time there, how often did they have a
great defense? To answer is very rarely. They were Swiss
geees on that side of the ball. They couldn't stop
anybody for the majority of his career. How often did
they have an offensive line that was even in the
top ten.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
In the NFL? The answer is very rarely.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
So, I mean, he didn't have a ton of help
during his time there, But the old club Raiders, even
with DeVante Adams, it's a little bit like lipstick on
a pig.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
It really is, because who's throwing him the football this year?
You know? I mean, what's the answer to that question?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
And there hasn't been an answer to that question since
what Stabler.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I mean, when was the last time.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Had that good run? Oh yeah, there you go, Rich
him hanging out with Timmy Brown and Jerry Rice, So
we got that. But yeah, I mean this year it's
Garner Minshew, who I think we all love and are
fascinated by the man and the brand and the image
that he projects. But we all know he turns into
a pumpkin. And then he got Aidan O'Connell, who to
(11:15):
say he was uneven would be kind, I would agree.
So yeah, it's but for Devontae Adams, I would say
it this way, you know, and it's soft on one hand.
On the other, if this is what's got to motivate
you for those two games a year because you're a
raider and you know it's a lot on your effort. Uh,
that's going to determine how well you're able to play,
(11:39):
and that the quarterback and the position that you're in,
because again he did drop the hey Aaron keeps reaching
out kind of thing in the middle of it, right,
So you got that going for you that if if
that's what motivates you. I mean, all the all time greats.
They gotta find something to stay pissed off and motivator, right,
Michael Jordan, I took that personally, staring at that iPad.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Oh he was still bad. He was still bad.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Right, here's later, He's still salty. So DeVante Adams here
getting salty and calling out the which is amazing to me. Hey, hey,
social media guys, jerks, I'm coming after you.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Soft, But you know, again, you find your motivation, and well,
we all kind of have to do the same thing
in our lives, right, you know, you get up, you
put your pants on one leg at a time, maybe
you hop in both. I don't know, but the idea
being that in the end, you got to find something
that motivates you. Whether it's fear of being evicted, fear
of that bill come and do, or your boss just
(12:41):
being a pain in the ass, whatever the case is,
you go to work every day and you find motivation.
For Devonte Adams here trying to maybe he's trying to
just play tough guy and impress k Adams. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah, listen, he wouldn't be the first, and I promise
you he won't be the last.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
That is DRAMs.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
He's shy.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Here's here's the reality of the situation in that division.
DeVante Adams can, you know, dig his heels in and
say ooh, you know, shake his fist at the Chargers
and the Chargers control him on social media and who knows,
maybe even the Denver Broncos at some point went through
the fray. But as long as Patrick Mahomes is patrolling
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the AFC West, I think everybody would do themselves a
favor and look eastward because that's where the true contender is.
Nobody is going to survive that division until they figure
out a way to diffuse that bomb in Kansas City.
And I don't know, I don't know if there's anybody
who can. Let's face it, as stacked as the forty
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nine Ers are, if they end up rematched against the
Kansas City Chiefs in a Super Bowl, you're taking the Niners.
I mean I can in good conscience. I mean that
is the best team in football until proven otherwise. So
the AFC West, you know, the quibbling between the Chargers
social media team, the interns who run it, and Devanta Adams,
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that all is back burner.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You know stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Meanwhile, Travis Kelce is dating the most famous human being
on the planet, and they have the best quarterback who's
ever played the game still manning that offense.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
And that's the bottom line, because Stone Cold said so,
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Find me over at Swollen Dome. Hey, Rich, Coming up next,
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Speaker 3 (15:05):
Paully Foods Go ahead with Tony Foodsco. Yah.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning
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Speaker 3 (15:11):
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Speaker 7 (15:14):
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Speaker 5 (15:17):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
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Speaker 7 (15:28):
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Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yee hey, welcome back in. It's Fox Sports Radio The
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This week, My got rich Ornberger sitting in for him
this evening our esteem colleague, former NFL lineman Penn State alone.
I actually have a trading card of rich Orberger in
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that Penn State uniform. How about that? Got it a
big deal? The expansive collection, hang on, still need you
to sign that at some point.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Hang out to that. It's gonna be worth something one day.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Promise it's worth something.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I'm sure you know I'll find that super Penn State collector.
That's that's really just ready for it. Either that or
I sell the hell out of the fact that you
know and have tormented Tom Brady in the past. All
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talks to big time famous folks in the Hall of
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and he's on the big call on Thursday with the
Phillies and the Dodgers. It's our buddy, John Paul Morosi.
Find him on Twitter at John Morosi JP. As always
longtime friend of the show. Good to have you back
in once again today, and I'll ask the question for Frostburg,
what the hell happened to the Dodgers?
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Well, Mike and Rich, good evening, my friend, Uh, to
to borrow a bit of the of one line the
that we that we had on the track that brought
us back from break. Uh, the Dodgers were not so
fresh and so clean this evening that they were. They
were the opposite of fresh and clean this evening. With
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with a tip of the cap to to outcast there,
I'll say this, it has never been more apparent that
the Dodgers need to acquire a starting pitcher and maybe
even multiples at the deadline. When you look at the
struggles of Bobby Miller, and clearly he's missed time this season.
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He didn't didn't look comfortable tonight. The location on the
pitches was off. In a good Major league lineup like
the Phillies, will will sting you every time for that.
And then you look at the rest of the picture.
The glass now injured list, Bueler injured list, Yamamoto injured list,
Khrushaw injured list, has yet to pitch in the Major
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leagues season. You go down the line, guys, and I'm
I'm concerned. Not it's still a great team when everybody's healthy,
but everybody's not healthy right now. And I think it's
now the point where, of course, the All Star Games
next week, the Draft is next week, the trade deadline
is now basically three weeks from right now, it's going
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to be over. So their their window to upgrade their
pitching staff is immediately, and fortunately for them, there is
plenty of good supply out there. You could get a
Frankie Montass from the Red you can get a yuse
Kikuchi from the Blue Jays, even if you're not going
into the Garrett Crochet or Trek Skouoble neighborhood. But they've
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got some work to do, and I think a night
like this makes it a tough loss to take. But
it is an absolute, clear, clear flashing red light to
the front office that they need to make some upgrades
to the deadline.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Sometimes you know, for fans, you want it to be clear.
You don't want the picture to be muddled heading into
the deadline. And I think the Dodgers have a clear need.
And many teams, dude, you know the answer to this
next question maybe.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
The same team we're just talking about JP. But if
you could humor.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Me, is there a team that sticks out in your
head amongst the thirtieth Major League Baseball right now that
needs the All Star break more than any of the
other teams out there.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
I think the Seattle Mariners, who actually they're playing well tonight,
they're winning seven to nothing over the Padres, but they
have been leaking oil a little bit in the last
couple of weeks to the Houston Astros in the American
League West Race. And whether it's Julia Rodriguez who missed
some time you had to have an MRI on a
nagging injury actually came back to lane up tonight hit
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a home run, so maybe that's all he needed. But
I think Julio has much more to give than what
he's shown so far. He's a first class person. I
just think that it hasn't worked out for him in
the first half of the season. So take take the break, refocus, recharge,
come out, and then make a statement in the second half.
And the Mariners, when you consider where they're at, they've
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played half a season, more than half a season now
and are still in first place, even though their best
player has not been their best player. That is to me,
a team that does have some urgency needs the break,
and I think will be better in the second half
as a result. I think the Yankees too, with some
of their struggles rich that bullpen in particular has been
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an issue. Clay Holmes is an All Star, but the
pathway from the starters to get to him has become very,
very unsettled in recent weeks, and part of that's because
the starters haven't been as good. Carlos Rodin struggled again today.
Luis Keel has not been nearly the same picture in
June and July that he was in the first two
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months of the season. So I look at the Yankees
right now as certainly needing the break. The momentum, honestly
at the moment belongs to the Boston Red Sox. That
they keep playing well, they're somewhat under man don't have
a huge barrel any longer, at least in relative terms,
but with what they've done, they're sort of the I
never thought i'd say this, sort of like the underdog
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sentimental favorite those the small town in Boston. I say
this obviously with a more than a little bit of irony.
They are now the underdogs, and we'll see how things
play out.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Now in the second half, and they'll be floating out
here to play the Dodgers after the all start ake
right away. John Paulmrosi with us here MLB Network, longtime
friend of the show, the podcast where he's going through
the veritable Who's who, and by that I mean Hall
of Famers latest. I saw you promoting with the Wizard
of Oz getting after it as well, and JP, you know,
(21:45):
I saw comments from another Hall of Famer, George Brett,
and I'll agree with him. When are we going to
go back to the old style of trying to hit
the baseball? The old Charlie Law kind of rule of
order instead of everybody batting one ninety.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Tell you what, there is a lot to like about
what George Brett said. And and it's for those who
didn't see the quote or here the here the part
of the interview. He basically said that the issue with
launch angle is is you're you're passing the bat through
the hitting zone. The more the more vertical you get,
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the less time you give yourselfself horizontally to make contact
with a ball that is more or less typically coming
at you at more of a horizontal trajectory. And it's
basic physics. Makes a lot of sense to me. It
was somewhat remarkable, uh many of the comments, uh that
it got a fair amount of traction on on ax
(22:40):
here the last couple of weeks. The remarkable the amount
of comments who basically said, and I'm paraphrasing here because
I could not read the direct quotes along the lines of, well,
what does George Brett know about how to hit in
Major League baseball right now? As if the physics of
a of a spherical object and a bat have changed
that much since retired, It really is interesting to think
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about it. I just tend to think that George Brett
has a lot of smart things to say about about
the subject of many others. And again, like, look at
the players that in the eighties and early nineties that
we all wanted to emulate. It was Tony Gwynn, George Brett,
guys who were winning batting titles, Guys who just had
an absolute innate sense of what to do with the
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bat and could basically paint the canvas of the field
with line drives. And that's Luis Araas is that way,
But not a lot of other players are at the moment.
And that's why if I'm at the trade deadline, I'm
looking for guys that put the ball in play, that
or that at least don't how to draw a walk.
There's just way too many strikeouts relative to walks right now,
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and to me, it really stands out. You know, it
was interesting. I was earlier tonight I was talking with
some friends from Seattle about the Mariners and they're batting
in the low two hundreds, and the question came from
my friends in Seattle sports there about have we ever
seen a team win the World Series with a lineup
like this? And I went back in history. I thought
about the Giants of twenty ten. That was basically Pat Burrow,
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Aubrey huff Buster posey, and then the rotation. That's how
they won games, a lot of two to one, three
to two, three to one type of games. And yet
their batting average was around the two fifties, substantially and
better than what the Mariners are right now. Our understanding
of what is a good team batting average has gotten
so skewed in the last ten years it's remarkable. So
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I think the postseason still guys belongs to the teams
that can find a way to put it in play
in key situations like the Nationals a few years ago
with Howie Kendrick and HadAM Eaten. That approach I believe
is still vitally important and one that I think is
crucial not moving forward.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
I'm so glad you said that, because I really feel
the same exact way that you feel that Brett Field.
When you have there's a certain coefficient and I don't
know what the number is, but it feels like there
is a constant number, and you could have more, but
you can't have less of those type of players who
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are selfless hitters, who will get on base, who will
you know, occasionally turn a shoulder into a ball that's
that's close to hitting them to get on whatever it
takes just to move men over on the base path.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
You have to have those guys.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
And there's a certain called a Mendoza line, you know,
I know that's typically used for batting average. But you
need a certain number of players who are willing to
do those sort of things. And then obviously you'll have
your variables. You know, you'll have certain players who you
know they're on the lineup because of their defensive abilities,
and some of them who are getting paid, you know,
handsomely to hit a whole lot of home runs for
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you and cash in on those base runners. But but
what would you what would you put that number at?
Like about how many of those small ballers, you know,
those guys who are willing to take the base instead
of try to grab the glory that you need to have.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
To go on a deep playoff run these.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Days, I think you need to have a lineup with
at least three or four of them who are good
at that who are and listen, you can have a
certain number of players in your lineup who swing for
the downs, so to speak, and when you've got someone
like Aaron Judge, Juan Soto. They are elite both in
terms of hitting for average and for power. But what
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you're describing, Rich, you've had a chance to see up
close in this year's development of Jerks and Profar, who's
in the middle of his career, but he basically already
this year has has walked as many times in twenty
four as he did almost all of last season, and
is on base percentage has leapt up to above forty
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percent of the time, which players nowadays just aren't They're
not doing that, And so I think that what Jerks
and Profar has done, he has not sacrificed the power
and production to get on base more often. It's difficult
to do, and he's certainly, you know, once upon a
time was one of the best prospects in the game.
He's delivering on that promise now as an All Star
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and proving to everybody that you can still do both.
It's just a matter of I think, making good swing
decisions and just keeping that bat in the zone more often.
It I think, unfortunately, Rich, one thing that's happened in
this game in recent years is there has been a
divergence between what gets you paid individually and what wins
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for your team. And this is goodness. I hope a
bunch of travel sports parents listen to this and we think, well,
we all and the hope with the coaches most importantly
think about this. It's what's best for the individual versus
what the manager really wants for his team, and that
now has to be resolved because there's no way that
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Profile should have been unsigned for as long as he was.
Well why wasn't he Because they're not a huge power guy,
and you had teams chasing power with other plays that
aren't as good as profar and but they were, they
were enthralled by the power and now Profile is doing both.
So I hope that this is a This is a
big lesson to a lot of front offices about exactly
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what kind of players you should really be prioritizing in
the offseason. And yes, at the deadline now less than
three weeks away.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
John Morossi our guest, no Mets or White Sox talk today,
I want to circle back to the Yankees as my
last one for you. JP Cashman went down to Tampa.
Have you've got Hank Steinber or hol Steinberg? Sorry is
down there as well, seventeen losses, twenty three ins. At
what point does Brian Cashman's seat really actually get hot
(28:43):
or do we That's just something we talk about it.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
It's a great question he when you think about the
duration of his job and the amount of pressure on him,
it is one of the longer and more more drama
and more remarkable runs in modern pro sports history. What
he's what he's been able to do. You think about again,
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with all due respect to the great football coaches and
what Nick Saban did at Alabama and others, they're coaching
fourteen fifteen games a year. Brian Cashman is living and
dying one hundred and sixty two times a year with
that pressure, and then October is like He's like one
big long panic attack for basically five straight weeks. So
(29:31):
I want to have a little moment of appreciation for
Brian what he's done. So it was funny. Actually it's
like two thousand and six. I was the Yankee Stadium,
the old Yankee Stadium for the playoffs, and I was
there with my with my mentor, John Low, and we
saw Brian in the old cafeteria dining room there, which
was iconic in its own right, and we say, hey, Brian,
good to see you, you know, started the playoffs. What a
great time of year, and he looks at us like like, man, yeah,
(29:56):
I'm happy. But this is also agonizing because at that point,
as you know, from both being involved in pro sports
for so long, there's nothing that GM can do. But
there is right now once again to October you can't.
Now you got a lot to do. And I think
that that Brian Cashman is his seat hot. They still
have it last checked, like a ninety seven percent chance
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to make the playoffs. As long as they're in the dance,
I think that the seat will not be actually hot
until sometime in the offseason. But Brian Cashman, have you
noticed a lot of his comments in recent years, He
has driven so far past the zero bleeps you have
left to give sign that I think he's totally cool
with what he's done. He's got all these the World
(30:40):
Series rings. He's in pretty good.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Shape, I think, no question about it. On the call
Phillies and Dodgers on Thursday, to our body, m MLB
Network Baseball Insider and of course always a welcome guest
and voice here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey JP at
John Morosi where you find on Twitter. Pretty soon we'll
be talking Lions and Michigan football, So get rid of.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
I know it. But by the way, and I'm excited.
I think I'm gonna be on the two polls and
a cup of Joe later on the week. I got
to congratulate LeVar in person for his son committing to
Penn State. I know, Rich, there's probably some good ones
put him by you as well. I think LeVar Arrington
the Second made a great choice. Huge respect for Penn State,
and I wish your team all the best.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Is fall No, I appreciate that very much.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Same to U M as they try to defend their
national title with a much busier big ten. And I
agree with what you said about LaVar Arrington the second.
One thing that Penn State is known for linebackers. One
other thing they're lesser known for. But they've generated a
lot of them pass rushers, and he's going to be
rushing off the edge for the Nitney Lions. I'm really
(31:46):
excited for him and for his dad. And we are
you know that story.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
I know indeed you are Penn State. The Leavar Leap
take two. I love it. I'm excited about that.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
See if he can go and destroy Illinois the same way.
See a letter JP. Be good, have a great call.
Talk to you next week at JA. Paul Morosi our
MLB insider coming up next up Fox Sports Radio. How
about a coaches combine or at least one athletic feet.
I want to see them. Do one coach teas that
he might be doing that coming out next. I think
I can outrun this guy, and I don't say that often.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
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Speaker 3 (32:29):
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show there, and then obviously Fox Sports Weekends doing some
betting work and then tormenting Steve Hartman as always. Story
that caught my eye and I thought you would be
entertained by this as you know, the NFL Rules of
the World one of Ty Shirt's other favorite songs. By
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the way, if you haven't seen the Bad Blood video,
go and watch the Bad Blood video. That's for everybody
not now. At your leisure when we're not on air
right now, you should be evangelizing to friends and family
that shou'd be listening to the greatness of the show.
But did you realize that there's an off season Hard
Knocks being played right now?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yes? It did.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
And you know what I didn't realize about it was
that it was going to be as dramatic or cinematic as.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
The regular Hard Knocks. But of course it is right.
You know it's going to be narrated. They're going to
put all the production into it.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well, you got to find storylines where you can, and
find characters and where you can. But it's a new
Football Giants this time rich and let's face it, they're
one of the franchises a lot of head scratching. Last year,
Joe and gets hurt, people hate him because he got paid.
Saquon Barkley's an eagle. All sorts of chaos ensues and
(34:07):
will wait eagerly for the next iteration of the squad.
But we're seeing off season hard Knocks, And as I
said earlier in the program, hard knocks for me is one,
it's it's it's an occupational mus must watch. But for
my own personal enjoyment and edification that that's gone long
long ago in terms of storylines, because now it's like formulaic,
(34:28):
like a reality show. It's like, all right, this is
the part of the season where we find out about
this guy, or they have the trip home or whatever,
and really not not really much to the formula that changes.
But how about this Brian Dable from boasting during the
scouting combine that he could run the forty in seven seconds?
Are you buying Brian Dabele? And now he's lost a
(34:51):
bunch of weight now that I have seen, right, he's
been on some red carpets and he's done somethings. So
he's like, he's a guy that you know, he and
his family they did some things health wise, so's he's
looking a little leaner and meaner as he approaches the
twenty twenty four season. But it's also the seven seconds.
I don't know that I'm buying that, but I would
tune in to watch that and maybe I'll you know,
(35:13):
take the physical challenge and go do that myself.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
I'm curious, and I don't know the answer to this
question because his appearance smacks of former offensive lineman, you know,
just like a thick neck, bald, aggressive beard, like you
just think offensive lineman. But I'm not even sure if
he's a big guy like in terms of like height wise,
I don't know what his measurables are, So I don't
(35:38):
know if he's got a playing history. You know, did
he did he tap out of high school football? Did
he play in college at all? Did he ever have
any time in the NFL? My assumption is no, but
I don't know if that's the case. So I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I'm very like eight years old.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah, he played college football with the Rochester Yellow Jackets.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Okay, there you go, sus a former.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Graduated and goes from there. So okay, he stands five to.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Ten Okay, all right, but you know, look, I mean
some of the fastest people on the planet are you know,
hover around five ten to six foot.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Let me think what position.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I kind of dug that the fastest people on Earth
as we're talking about Brian Dable. I like the way
you do that straight line, like you're going through it
and you're trying to do the math in your head. Right,
you're because you were talking about coefficients and we were
talking hitting angles and everything with John Paumrosi. No, I
was like, let's do the math here the fastest people
(36:40):
in the world five ten to six one. And they're like, no,
we're talking about Brian Table. That's why you know that
that coefficient out front.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Is whoa hang on a second, now, hang on a second,
now check this out.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
So I realized he was playing at the University of Rochester. However,
the position he played was defensive back.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
He was a safety.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Yeah, okay, so listen, the guys gotta have a little
bit of witchiness.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Maybe he had some twitchiness back in the early nineties
when he was playing some college ball, right. I bet guys,
if you put some pies at the end of the
forty oh my god, it's just that you went for
the low hanging I can say fruit, but it wouldn't
be fruit. Maybe it's a fruit pie.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Well it could be yeah, yeah, I mean honestly, and
RB's apple pie.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Those are better than people would realize. I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Think this before after consuming a five for five.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Well, the five for five, I mean, that's a commitment
in it with Horsey sauce. No, the pies are not.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
However, you can add it additionally if you do, like
a little horse radish.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
On your dounge apples.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
But I will say this, yeah, maybe if you incentivize
this somehow, it'll get a little bit more, get a
little bit of the hitch out of the gidea. I
will say this, athletes kind of main athletes at all ages.
Now that that not all of them age pretty and
and he tapped out after a head injury or a
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neck injury at University of Rochester. So I think he's
got in terms of like lower body joints, kind of
low mileage, you know, because he didn't finish up a
college career. I think it's possible, man that if if
he's lost enough weight, and I haven't seen a recent
picture of him, he.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Looks pretty good.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeah, all right, you know what I buy it.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Maybe maybe we're all in and maybe we have to
do the physical challenge. Maybe that becomes part of the
radio combine. I like that as I'm trying to get
lean and mean myself.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah, you know, so you tell you what I saw
the reacent Instagram Live.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
You're looking you're you're looking leaner for it.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I'm leaner, but you know I still look tired. Did
that look like the face of a man who had
just been on vacation.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
No, you look like a man who's exhausted, who's been
exhausted by life many times.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
So well, that's it, though the long road continues, and
like this in his later years, Yeah, that's his later years.
Speaker 8 (39:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
He died in forty two.
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