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keta dot com, where you can see some of his work.
Find him on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina, Mark
Medina with us What am I supposed to take from this?
Mark in the late hours on a Wednesday, pretty lethargic
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early on. I think I'm see better at the Wreck
Rec Club down the street.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Hey Wrook, I'm sure Jason Smith would agree. If only
Jalen Brunson was on the team didn't get shafted, her
would be much differst.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, I got a question about him later on. But
you know, they end up winning comfortably in it, and
it floats into the night. But you know, what do
we glean from it? We had we had a lot
of it fits. And I earlier the fact that they
put out a tweet that didn't call it a starting lineup,
they called it a first five.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
What the hell was that?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, it's semantics in twenty twenty four. I will say
this though, that's not the definitive starting lineup. Like Steve
kirk for warned that he was going to use every
exhibition to experiment, I think by default it's going to
be a different starting lineup because Kevin Durant is expected
to return when they had their next exhibition against Australia
in Abu Dhabi on July fifteenth. But yeah, my takeaway
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is that it's an exhibition. There was russ They missed
the first seven shots, I believe com made a lot
of turnovers, and then they finally found their stride where
it seemed like it was all about Lebron James, Anthony
Davis and Steph Curry. Not so much Joel Embiid because
he couldn't stay out of foul trouble. But you know,
at least a lot better sign than what we saw
in those FEBA Games two years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So what's the appropriate reaction to all of this?
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Because I think you make you make a strong point
about why it started out rusty, But how can I excuse?
But then also sit here and listen and people tell
me that this is going to be the single greatest
team USA We've ever had.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Well, it very well might be, but they have to
work for number one and number two. They're going to
have a lot more competition than the Dream Team ever
did in nineteen ninety two, where they would just you know,
spend the day playing golf eighteen holes and then being
an opponent by fifty or so points at night. So
you know, Canada has their whole starting lineup NBA players,
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France has a lot of good players, Serbia has Nikolai Jokic,
you know, so they're going to have a lot of
good competition here. But I think the reason why there's
a lot of dream team comparisons one that happens every Olympics,
but two, this team has a good combination of all
the ogs, superstars and some young stars. And so I
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think it starts with the fact that Lebron James, Kevin Durant,
and Steph Currier on the team. But when you dig deeper,
they have a lot of good young up and comers
like an Anthey at Wards. They have some young players
that are experienced winning gold like Jason Tatum and Drew
Holliday and Devin Booker. Maybe they need, you know, Jalen
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Brown and Jalen Brunson to really put them over the tops.
The there's no debate, but they do have a lot
of good players across the board.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Speaking of Jalen Brown, a couple of mock poles and
a little bit of salt in his his teammate Derek
White pops into the fray three point shooter defender.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Et cetera.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Was Kawhi Leonard ever really got a player? Was he
there like he wanted a Pro Bowl nod?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
You know what's so weird? You can never rule anything
now with Kawhi Leonard because of his injury history. But
literally yesterday I was at US you know, in Vegas
for USA camp. I asked ty Lu because I noticed
that on one hand, Steve Kerr was saying he completed
practices without any restrictions. But I saw that the Clippers brass,
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including l Orange Sprink with their front office, would be observing practice.
So I asked him what kind of collaboration give it
or take is there among the Clippers Tylu and Steve
Kerr with how to manage Kawhi's workload? And he said,
there's no minutes restrictions. He's feeling good and this could
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be really good for him because he usually doesn't play
five on five in the summer. And then twenty four
hours later, USA Basketball said, yeah, we sent him home.
You know, we determined its best for all parties. It's
just a while, but you're never surprised because on one
day Kawhi Leonard looks like a top five NBA player
and then the next day he's back in the trainer's room.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Well, he's saying all the right things, or they are
saying all the right things, that he respects the decision.
But I mean, at some point, how does do you
have any sense of how he feels.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
About all of this?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
About how Kawhi Leonard feels about it? Yeah, I mean
you never know, because he doesn't really share his feelings
a lot. But I for shortenly certainly can presume that
obviously he feels frustrated, because you know, here he finally
had a time that he felt fully healthy or at
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least what he called a neutral state, after missing the
last eight regular season games and then he was very
limited in the first round of the playoffs against Dallas.
But prior to this, there was a lot of mixed
feelings around the league that hey, if you're not healthy
enough to play in the playoffs, why would you consider
it okay to play for the Olympics. But I think
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there was also this other school thought that he can
use this as a ramp up time so that he
starts shrining camp not having to worry about anything. You know,
there's been a lot of talk where it's almost counterproductive
if you're saying amount of practices or limiting those games,
because it's the equivalent of keeping a classic car in
the garage if you're not driving it, you know, consistently,
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it's inevitable of the engines, doll. So no easy answers.
But unfortunately for Kawhi, this development isn't surprising because we've
seen it all along the last five years.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Mark Mark Medina with us here, Fox Sports Radio, Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon, No Jason Smith to Night,
Jason fits in instead. Sorry you couldn't attend the game tonight.
You might have been one of nine thousand people to
get a selfie with Barack Obama.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah, maybe I didn't make the cut because of like
security clearance as who knows?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Now, what do you got in your past? Medina? Can
you just scratch the surface there? What do you got
in your past that they didn't give you? With secret
service coming through?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Hey rook you know, as you guys know, I've been
JJ Reddick's assistant here. I had to go back and
do some business album in La.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Nicely done.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, that is that is well played by you. All right,
so give me your thoughts.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
Then, I know Tatum missed a couple of days of
all of this and now he comes into everything. But
we have heard plenty about the swagger and hey, I
have the chip. Like when when you see Jatum in
this process, is there a difference in who he is
now that he has a championship?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yeah, you could really pick up on that that he said.
You know, I'm still enjoying the championship. It hasn't. The
glow hasn't gone away. Most players, especially ones that win
their first tip, they ride that out the entire summer
as far as how great of a mood they're in,
how they feel they're in cloud nine. But it's also
an interesting challenge. This is something that his teammate Drew
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Holiday went through during the Tokyo Olympics, where you are
playing in the most competitive high stakes games as the
NBA Finals, and all of a sudden, you have to
get ready for the next high stakes game that is
the Olympics. So Drew Holiday can certainly share perspective of
you just have to continue to hit the ground running.
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On one hand, it's great that you've already feel like
you're not too behind on your conditioning. But on the
other hand, you have to completely compartmentalize and not think
that you just want because you're trying to win a
new thing. I thought what was interesting that Jason Tatum
said someone asked him about, you know, the comparison of
winning a gold medal versus an NBA finals, And no doubt, like,
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winning a gold medal is special and it means a
lot for everyone that you know wants to represent their country.
But he said, you know, at the end of the day,
there's nothing quite like winning an NBA championship because this
is how you really carve out your career and you
dream about it, where with the Olympics it's not inevitable
and it is special. But uh, you know, usually that
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doesn't define a player's career. But I think that there
can be some real positive carryover from the fact that
you want a championship a few a few weeks ago
and now he's ready to try to hoist his second
gold medal.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, I mean when you look at it, also, he
ain't gonna get credit for it. It's Lebron and Steph
team together.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I mean, let's be honest with Lebron's part of the game.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Team, not Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Let's just call it what it is. What it's all said. None,
You're on the team. We got the metal. The other
guys are going to get to shine. How much chatter
about free agency and the chaos that ensued. I know
Kawhi was asked before his departure a lot about Paul
George and what went down with the Clippers, and certainly
Paul George hitting the podcast circuit to give his version
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of things. How much chatter around Team USA about the
last week or so and the silly money floating around.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yeah, I mean TVSA in summer League, those are hubs
for everyone catching up and talking about the NBA, So
no doubt free agency was a source of conversation. Now
when it came to Kawhi Leonard, he responded like he
normally does, like a robot and acted stoic about it.
I think at fairness, he did know that this is
coming because he and Paul George have a close relationship,
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are communicative, so he knew how Paul George felt about
the state of the negotiations, of feeling disrespected with the
initial two year offer and then they're still being into
contention even when they helped the Ante, because Paul George
wanted that extra year and wanted to know trade clause.
I think when he talked to people around the NBA
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outside of the Clippers, they certainly understand Paul's initial feeling
of resentment. That you know, even when you account for
the fact that the Clippers didn't win a trip, he
had a lot of injuries, He's worth more than a
tier offer. But I think a lot of people think
around the league that it was fair for the Clippers
and not to attach an extra year because you don't
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want to surpass what Kawhi Leonard makes. I mean, he
is more valuable to the team than Paul George is.
And two, they want to keep flexibility, and so Paul
George won that trade clause because he knew what happened
with Blake Griffin a few years back. But I think
around the league they understood why the Clippers reacted the
way they did.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Obviously, Anthony Edwards made a lot of headlines for saying
that essentially he's the alpha here. I don't think it
was a big deal, but I will ask you who
is the alpha on this team?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
With Cbosa yeah, yeah, I mean it's Lebron James. I
thought it was really telling that, you know, maybe it
was well knowing Steve Kerr. I think he's genuinely honest
about this. He's coached against Lebron so many times in
the finals during those Warriors Tavs matchups. Yet in practice
he acted really amazed when he saw Lebron James just
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going out in every practice drill first day, and he
turned to Tyleru and Eric Spolstra, you know, two coaches
that obviously coached Lebron before, and he said, is he
this all the time? And They're like, yes, all the time.
So you know Lebron, we you know, always poke light
at some of the things that he does behind the
scenes and with trying to exert his influence with roster construction.
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But make no mistake, he has a very old school
soul when it comes to his training habits. And I
think that looking at the short term, because Kevin Durant
is at least out, and because Lebron James is still
playing a high level and there's inevitably always that transition
im period of the US national team faces with lack
of continuity adjusting the Foeba rules. He is the most
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important player and most valuable player on that team, and
I suspect even with Kevin Durant returning, that could very
well stay that way.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
They're on the road to Abu Dhabi next week with
Australia and Serbia. If you do make that trip, Mark,
I want a couple of selfies along the way at Mark.
Mark g Underscore Medina is where you find him sports
Keta and obviously follow all his exploits there on Twitter.
Our NBA insider journalists for Fox Sports Radio, we appreciate
(13:37):
you stopping by so late after a brilliant final throw
for the US.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Appreciate you. I'll be back to Vegas for Bronni James
his big Summer League debut over there.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, well, we'll catch up on that one as we go.
The derisive attitude towards anything Bronni James, I mean even
the ESPN's putting out the bad defensive plays.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Mark, Wow, Hey, look at this. I was cold by
Warren Legary, who oversees Summer League that it's nearly sold
out already for Bronnie James's big game.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Big expectations.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
We'll be liveing in living color watching it with the
world on Friday.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Mark, thanks for stopping by. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Here you go, Mark.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Medta with us as he joins us, talking all things
Team USA. Figured the attention was on them and all
the throes of the NBA mechanics versus the Summer League
game with Bronnie James. I mean you've gotten the highlights
from Fenley during the updates. Three points twenty nine minutes played.
I think there was there's some positives to go through,
but we don't needed to go full X and o's
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here just now.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Mister Fitz.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
We'll do that another time, but we want to go
back and talk about your team, all right. We talked
Dion Sanders and Shadure Sanders a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Well.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Shiloh Sanders chimed in about something.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
His dad said earlier in the day, and maybe it's
a coup for you and the Silver and Black.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
We'll do that.
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Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon Live forthediarag dot Com Studios. Smith off
tonight Jason Fitz in his stead. We're having a blast.
Hope you are too at Fox Sports Radio at Jason
Fitz at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
As you're following.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Along, We've got media days going on and a gem
that I thought you find pretty interesting there, mister Fitz.
We talked Devantae Adams, current player of the Raiders, and
then well, rumor, conjecture, speculation, Dion Sanders saying, well, I
got a meeting with the Raiders, talked a little bit
about that and being the invisible hand. We talked about Smith,
(16:30):
Adam Smith and the invisible hand of economics. Then you go,
I can put another five dollars in my jar for
things I learned back in school. But Shiloh Sanders, well,
he was asked about this in his media availability.
Speaker 10 (16:44):
Lastly, your dad talked about potentially having four first round
draft picks coming out of Colorado this year. Right now,
a lot of early draft projections have your brother in
the top ten, Travis in the top fifteen.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Some have a by.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Them here in the Vegas though.
Speaker 10 (17:01):
I don't want to get too far ahead, but your
dad just say he would love for him to play here,
and you know, love for him to play under AP
your thoughts on the city and the organization overall.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know, I'm going to the league too.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
A no, absolutely absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
They look cool.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
Little package? Did that would be cool?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Or my dad just Lebron James that thing, that'd be great.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I was just playing, how about that Lebron James that stuff? No,
I mean, look, the exasperated side. I think that becomes
a drop.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
If it's if.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
You're telling me that it's for what's the equivalent in
our minds of the fifty fifth pick in the NBA draft,
because most fifty like we're talking about a sixth rounder, right.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Like probably a sixth rounder.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, the seventh round where it's just all right, spin
the wheel, who's your guy?
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Kind of anger?
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah, I mean, if you're telling me that you know
Dion wants to use his powers to spin the wheel
on a sixth round pick, that's fine. I don't care
if you're telling me that suddenly an organization is going
to reach for one of the Sanders boys just because
Dion says so. Man, I just that's such bad business
and it's such a difficult process because right now today,
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what we're all trying to do is make Schudeur Sanders
great because, frankly, the world is easier in draft coverage.
I've covered it for seven straight years. The world is
easier in draft coverage when there are great quarterbacks to
talk about, and next year's class there just isn't. Like
right now, Chadeur likely could be the first quarterback off
the board. Maybe if quinn Ewers can keep the Texas
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starting job. He's you know, the people now are trying
to make Drew Aller a thing out of Penn State
like s. Look, none of these quarterbacks are today where
we were a year ago with Caleb and Drake.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Now.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
I know Jayden came from out of nowhere, but it's
just it's a weak quarterback class. And unfortunately, what we're
trying to do is turn this into a hike machine
that gets shade to the Raiders. And because the Raiders
have a clearing needed quarterback and most people think they're
going to pick higher than I want them to pick.
So I understand why people want to make that happen.
I just don't think. I don't think it's real. I
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honestly think that any organization today, based on what we
know right now, any organization with any level of patients
in this process, would not take Shud or Sanders with
the top ten pick.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
No.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I think that's where we're at right.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Hype train as it flows through, but it's we got
to get to this next round of stuff right. Some excitement,
some flash and certainly some skills that translate. Give full
credit at Vegas Sports TD at Vegas Sports Today for
that audio clip that we use there of shallow Sanders.
But to your point about quarterbacks, like what happens every
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year we end up finding four or five guys that
have to be the guide just because we need next,
which is why Shud or Sanders, if you were to
just force everybody in and to do the twenty twenty
five draft, he's going to go top ten just on principle,
because that's just the way these things work. There's no
sexiness in drafting the next offensive lineman, as much as
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it might be the prudent thing to do, right because
I mean, we look at your squad pretty much every
year my squad. We'll see what Caleb Williams becomes in Chicago.
A lot of excitement and I would put it in
the stock market of overweighted because now everybody's jumped on
board because on paper they should be a playoff team
in the NFC in theory, and in theory we know
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how that works out in a lot of cases. But
for the Raiders quarterback play AFC West don't know what
Denver is gonna be. I got to assume they're slightly
better than they were a year ago. In theory again
in theory Chargers and Jim Harbaugh. I mean, he's the
savior coming out here. And he brought all those recycled
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Baltimore Ravens running backs with him, strength, coaches, and what
is it? The enthusiasm unmatched, unparalleled, the greatest there is,
the best there is was and ever will be going
down a little Brett Hart kind of thing, as it were,
the excellence of execution being what they want to do.
But you know they'll win more of those margin calls
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than they have in years past. So when we look
at it, you know, where are the Raiders drafting? How
much does Aid O'Connell grow versus whatever? Gardner Minshew is
folk hero, right, the opportunity may be there that's suddenly
steering you in the face. Fits look what I did.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Here's the thing like, it would take such a meteoric
leap in growth in my opinion, for him to be
worth that.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
And look if they're no, but that's just stated it's
worth versus well, what have we seen every year?
Speaker 7 (21:46):
But if the Raiders were going to be impatient, this
would have been the year to do it. They they
had a level of we won't do that to move
up right, like it just won't happen. And you know, look,
I get it, and I know that sometimes with my heart.
But I've been relatively close every year when I've been
asked the win total for the Raiders. Last year, I
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thought they'd win seven. They won eight. The year before
I thought they'd win six, they won six. Right, Like,
for the most part, I'm sort of in the right range.
This feels like a seven win football team to me
going into the year. So the defense is good, very good.
There's plenty of talent on the offensive side of the ball.
I feel like it realistically, you're not gonna go to
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Davonte and be like, hey, we're gonna go ahead and
draft Shador and that's gonna fix everything.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Like, I just don't think that that's real.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
So the Raiders, if they were gonna be impatient, I
think they would have done it.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
This year. They didn't do that.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
So now I sit back and say, Okay, I just
don't think it's gonna be there. And I'm the first
to admit none of us saw Jayden Daniels coming a
year ago, none of us. And so hopefully somebody has
that sort of year where all of a sudden by
the end of the year there is a clearcut quarterback,
because that makes everybody's life a lot easier. I think
taking a quarterback is a beautiful thing, but reaching for
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a quarterback ends up with Zach Wilson. And when you
went up with Zach Wilson, your entire organization is set
back several years now.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Remember that's the Jets organization where they normally do that
on an annual basis. Fair we've seen that, you know,
for a long time with the quarterback position. So I
mean that's the The other part of it is you
just at some point you got to root for your
organization not to self sabotage. So maybe I'm just flat
(23:27):
out rooting for my favorite team not to do the
dumb thing for once.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Well, let's go through the schedule.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Week one, September eighth at Chargers.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Frostford just smiles, say it.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Come on, man, the Raiders who played poorly in so far.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
I mean they have.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
They got Week two at Baltimore, that's going to be
a loss. Week three home against Carolina that's a win.
Week four the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
I think Cleveland's a super caliber team, so I'll give
them the win. On that So I give it is
DeShawn Watson quarterbacking. If so you win that game, I
just I look, is he still won games with DeShawn
being as awful as he was last year.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I don't know how, but they did well.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
The roster's pretty damn good around him.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
The defense is off the charts, no question about it. Now,
I don't want to go game to game, well, just
having a little bit of fun with it. But one
of the things you did bring up a little bit earlier,
uh you know, we talked about the Cowboys, and they've
got their their triplets, although one of them is on defense.
Uh Now, in terms of guys that need contracts, you
got Dak, you got Cede Lamb who held his football
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camp and wouldn't answer questions about contracts or or any
of that stuff, even with the team's website. And then
you got Micah Parsons out there. And because of the
quarterback deficiencies and questions and the value of that position,
you know, I've argued that, all right, I figure out
a way to make things with Dak. I don't think
Dak's the guy in terms of where do I rank him,
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And I've seen some crazy rankings, right, Tyreek Hill, I
had him in his top five. He had his quarterback
too in the top five too, So I take that
with a grain of salt. But it's the idea that
you know, they don't grow on trees and.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Look, but Dak was an MVP candidate last year.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
But I'll take care.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
But what I'm saying is i'd pay him if I'm
the Cowboys over CD and Micah Parsons.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'll go find guys to fit those roles.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
One hundred percent, because in today's league, you can't win
if you don't have at least upper middle class quarterback play.
But then the other part of Dak, and this is
what drives me crazy about it, is everybody talks about
the playoff failures. Well, you know what's worse than failing
in the playoffs not making the playoffs at all. And
you know what's worse than having a quarterback that doesn't
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play well in the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Having a quarterback they can't even get you to the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
So I think people have just lost their minds when
it comes to Dak, and it's the reason.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That I'm you're gonna have to pay him.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
His contract makes it very clear that he cannot be franchised,
he cannot be traded, which means the Cowboys have absolutely
no leverage. And it only takes one other owner in
the league that says, you know what, I will give
you whatever you want to come here, which, by the way,
I think Mark Davis would try to do. So the
Cowboys got to sign him because they're gonna have to
overpay him at this point because Dak if he hits
the street, is going to get wild, wild, wild money,
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and people are gonna say, how can you do that
when he hasn't been successful in the playoffs. Doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter because at some point you got to
have at least an answer. They can get you to
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
No, but that's just it, right, And then they categorically
many in our business, on our network and other networks
like that defense was awful. Now he got a little
bit of a pass because they didn't play very well
offensively and didn't stop the bleeding. And then it looked
cosmetically better in the final box score if you didn't
watch it and you just saw the score like, huh, interesting,
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but defensively and McCarthy's game plan and all of it
was atrocious. Going back to Jerry Jones loyalty. I like
loyalty to a degree, but at some point you've got
to look around. And I'm not always an advocate for
firing coaches. I'm usually the last one on board the
hey beat. It trained for most teams, but this is
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one where it's like, all right, the genius of many
years ago was Aaron Rodgers. Led In a lot of cases,
maybe it's time that you try to find another voice
to take you to that next level. But here we
are down that road again, and look, Dak Prescott would
look good.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
In a Raiders' uniform, There's no question about it.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
The other thing I'll add with McCarthy is when an
entire team comes out flat for a playoff game, who's
that fall on. I mean, maybe you could say it
falls on leadership and all of the cheesy cliches, but
I look at that and say, coaches are the people
that are supposed to get the game plan in, get
the guys fired up, and get the guys ready.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Right. That's not Parson's job. That's not Ceede Lamb's job,
that's not Dak's job. That's that's coaching.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
If one guy comes out and fails you in a
playoff game, then you can turn around and say, man, okay,
there's an issue. The thing with the Cowboys is that
the one person that I put that failure on in
the playoffs last year is the person whose job it
was to make sure that they were motivated and ready
to play.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
They weren't ready to play in that game.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
They got their butts kicked because their coaches didn't do
a good enough job. So, you know, does Dak need
to be better in the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (28:31):
But man, if I told you today that whatever team
we're drafting, we could just look at the draft we
just had. If I told you the Commanders with their
pick we're going to get out of Jayden Daniel's a
Dak like career, they would kill for that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know what. I didn't give anything.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
To have that level of production out of a rookie quarterback.
So it's funny that we say, well, you know, just
go draft one. Okay, Well, if you could draft one,
they could get you Dak production. Then everybody's keeping their jobs.
It's just it's such a twisted conversation because it's Dak,
because it's the Cowboys, because we don't want quarterbacks to
make money for some reason, and because we want to
put everything in society about playoff games instead of just
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the entirety of it.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Well, but that's it.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Everything is hot take nonsense. Pragmatism gets you so far.
I'm Mike Harmon here in the Fox Sports radio studio.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Pragmatism don't even know if pragmatism means.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
It means that I'm not flying off the handle, just
saying stuff to watch the world burn. And I think
you can look at the guys in the clown suits
that do that with regularity in our business. I take,
I think a nice measured approach, right, the pragmatism of
what's you know, Let's look at all our options, let's
look at all the data and come to a conclusion
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as opposed to Dak Prescott can't win, and you can
go from that.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That makes a better SoundBite, which makes you, guys, very rich.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
No, but that's just it. I can't fault a good strategy.
I just don't know that I can be that good
an actor. For long time, my pragmatism and my willingness
to dig a little bit deeper into the processes betrays me.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Damn it.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
He's Jason Fitzen for Jason Smith by Garmin Fox Sports
Radio here from the Direct dot Com studios. Coming up next,
we will take our turn. When is when you say
goodbye to your team's best player. I don't know that
it can go any more awkwardly than it did for
one superstar who crossed to another squad, But first awkwardness.
(30:32):
Sometimes we have that with our guy, Brian Ft. Brian
Fenley is where you find him on Twitter. He's got
what's trending.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
Yes, I definitely am awkward. You should have seen the
first date I had with my soon to be wife.
That was more than awkward. And I don't know why
she stayed with me anyway.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
After a there's sales to be told here, Fendley, But
it's a family.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, I prop yourself up.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
You were I took you recovered from whatever happened? Is
it weird?
Speaker 9 (30:58):
Like I met her at a dog park with my dog,
and you know she lived two blocks away, so if
it didn't go well, she could have easily just escaped
and gone back to her apartment. I mean, I don't know.
Maybe there are better places to do a first date,
but I mean I'm seeing some eye rolls.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
But well, but I mean that makes you.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, that's a great first date. I think so.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
And using the dog, I mean, she's dead woman, but
that's it, right, Who's going to be really.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Mean to you if you've got your dog with you?
Speaker 9 (31:27):
Exactly? Yeah, no question. I think, thank you guys.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
How much your dog attacked her.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
I don't think a corgy would do that. You never know,
Yeah that is true, but I appreciate got to.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Be an evil Corgi in the mix somewhere. Yeah, Jason,
wouldn't you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah? I mean I didn't know you were a corky guy.
And now I'm just thinking about the amount of.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Fur that you all over your house, Like there's.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
A level I didn't like. I thought I understood dog shedding.
Speaker 9 (31:55):
So right, Jason, you should see my car. It's it's
snowing for and yeah, every week you try to clean
it out and there it comes again. Speaking of which,
after a slow start in Team USA for their basketball game,
they ended up dogging this Canada squad. I don't know
if you guys picked that upd Frostburg. You guys got that, okay.
(32:17):
I don't know if that was the smoothest, but I tried.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Good job.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I'm gonna give you the Miami Heat kid from back
of the day. Good job, good effort.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
There we go. So it was eighty six to seventy two.
Was an exhibition game precursor to the Olympics. Anthony Davis
he might be the star of this team. He had
a double double tonight and the team is gonna fly
to Abu Dhabi tomorrow for games against Australia and Serbia
next week. Lebron James, of course is on Timyosa and
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his son BRONI happens to be on the Lakers summer
League squad. He started. He played twenty nine minutes in
a game this afternoon. He took three shots, he made one.
He went one of two from the line, brick to
a three pointer, three points in his name, and the
Lake Show lost eighty to seventy six to the Heat.
In Soccer Copa America semi final, Colombia gets the job
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done against Uruguay, won neil. Columbia played the whole second
half with only ten guys on the field because of
a red card in the first and after the game,
all of a sudden, some of the Uruguay players and
I think if you count them, there's probably at least
a dozen that decide not only did they lose, but
they have to now punch fans because losing in itself
wasn't enough of an insult. And so there's a video
(33:32):
about all of that happening. It brings up, of course,
thoughts of the malice at the Palace when Ron Artest
made a scene and Ron our Test was not in
the stands for this soccer game. As far as what
else is going on Tmusa, their men's soccer team, their
head coach, Greg Burhalter, he gets fired, So there is that. Also,
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the European Championship final is set. The stage is set
for Sunday in Germany, in Berlin to be specific. It's
going to be Spain taking on England after England won
earlier today two to one in the semi final against
Netherlands lastly in Major League Baseball. We'll touch on some
of the games. There one score that I haven't given yet,
(34:13):
but I guess we'll.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Start Rod four straight right, dog shedding? Yeah, wowre score.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Boy, I was I did not think you were gonna
say dog shedding.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
You know what, I have the magical dump button just
to my left ear just to then reach.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
For sure.
Speaker 9 (34:37):
I know that that has been used not on this show,
but on many other shows. But yeah, the Dodgers ended
up losing four to three against the Phillies. You did
mention the Padres Frostburg. They did lose to the Mariners.
Final score that one was two to nothing. Also wins
for the Yankees the Rockies. I'm looking at Mike Harmon's
White Sox to wrap up this update. I know they
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played a double header and and Mike, you got one
of two.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
You got the early one.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
Yeah, got the early one, couldn't finish Game two, lost
to the Twins three to two. But again in your
White Sox, they're just forty one games below of five hundred.
So you do the math. You start to, you know,
get a winning street going, Mike, and they're still in
the playoff hunt. You know there is still a chance mathematically,
So I would never rule that out. As I get
it back to you and Jason.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know what, some of the world loves a smart
ass in this particular moment, and normally I do too.
In this point too far, family, too far, it's low
hanging fruit. You're better than that, is true, You're better
than that.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You're better than anything.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
At Brian Fenty on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Check out all his content his podcast series Deep Dives
with Folks in Our Media, Off TV, behind the Scenes
and whatever. It's great stuff. I've been part of it before.
I'm sure I'll get invited back to just have a
bunch of random quips about the meaning of life. But
we'll talk about that next Coming up on the show though,
as we close things out, a guy was basically told, hey,
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you're not coming back. He handled it a lot better
than I think I would have, and we'll talk.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Hey, welcome back in final final couple minutes here tonight
Jason fits in for Jason Smith coming up in ten minutes.
You got the Ben Mallor Show, cavalcade of stars mixed
therein thanks to Alex ty Shirt, Justin Frossberg, our team
in the back making us sound so pretty tonight. Fenley
(36:39):
was on the updates. So yeah, it's a great night.
So much going on. We had the Copa America Final,
the Uruguay team going into the stand evidently fits finding
out there's some details about family perhaps being harassed a
bit and defending the honor of family is being used
(37:00):
as the explanation slash excuse for what went on and
the brawl that is now taken over the interwebs.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Yeah, look, that makes a lot of sense, and I
want to have context around it because that's important.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
But also you just have.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
To know that, even when it is important, you have
a certain profile when you're involved in these events, and
you've got to find a way to show some constraint.
There are people in the arenas that can help with
those in stadiums that can help with those sorts of incidents.
There are ways that you can go through and still
honor your family and do it in a way that
doesn't put you in that position. I know we all
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want to say, well, honor, honor it like, but we
don't live in gladiator times.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Well, just trying to figure out, you know, how to
the communication with us in house security team security. There's
got to be folks in that traveling party to make
that happen. So more details I'm sure to come in
the next twenty four as we flow through. We'll keep it,
keep you apprized of it here at Fox Sports Radio.
But the final story wanted to get to Hard Knocks
(38:03):
the off season of the New York Football Giants, And
here is one of the more awkward phone calls I've
heard in recent memory. Uh it's the GM Shane talking
to Saquon Barkley asking for one more tryon.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You doing all right?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
You change saying you in you in Jersey right now?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
How's the off season?
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Benument?
Speaker 7 (38:32):
You doing it?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
THEO good travel a little.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Bit, starting you back into the aquatics?
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Yeah all right?
Speaker 11 (38:41):
So I I just talked to Ed Barry, and I think,
just rolling over this, the right thing to do is
let you test the market and see what your value is.
I don't want to do the franchise thing or all
that stuff.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Again.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
I don't want to go through that. We've we've both
been through that. You know, If if you really want
to be a Giant for life and you're interested in
staying here and coming back, just see what your market
is and then have Ed come back to us and
we'll see if we can we can come.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
To an agreement. All right, I appreciate it.
Speaker 11 (39:12):
Does that sound good? Can you give me your word
on that or you're not gonna give us a chance?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Good yeah, okay, all right, well let's.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Do that, and let's do that. Let's how about you
circle back. Good luck to you. It takes all about
a minute and thirty seconds for that phone call fits. Hey,
you're gonna go into the marketplace. You're gonna give us
a shot to match, right.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Can you give me? Can you give me your word
on that? Like the hell is that?
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Hey, we're gonna let you go out and they're going
to figure out how much you should get paid, and
then what we want you to do is bring the
offer back to us and we'll decide if we're going
to match it. But we I want your word that
you're gonna let me at least try to match it, which,
by the way, they didn't end up doing. It's just
such a weird, disingenuous process to go through it that way.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah, it just seem seemed like one of the outer Hey,
you promise you pinky swear that you're gonna give us
a call and you're gonna have ed reach back out,
Like never mind that we played games like surprise sake,
I mean Sekway. Barkley clearly resigned at that point, because
my first reaction was, you paid the other guy, saw
what I was able to do, paid the other guy,
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and now I gotta go and I gotta find the.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Marketplace and come back to you.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, no, beat it. Three years, thirty seven million dollars.
Philadelphia Eagles, which the Giants.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
It's been clear through this whole process, the Giants didn't
really anticipate that. So I can't believe how much of
this is getting out and how bad it makes the
Giants look to.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Me, Normally they have full control of the edit. Did
they think this made them look good?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I think they did, which is crazy, just insane to me.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
The Caleb Williams clip with Dable was better, at least
made them look like they were salivating over a player. Anyway,
Jason's been fun. We'll do it again soon at Jason
Fitz in the Twitter verse. Find me over at Swollen Dome.
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