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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's give this.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
What a very specific intro for rich Hartberg?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, did you just hear that?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And six year NFL VET sixty four games played? Is
pench invested in his middle of his third year? Not
just for NFL star for NA played, but no, no, no,
six years in the NFL. It's rich Orenberger.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
How you doing, Jason, dude, I'm grabbed just back from vacation. Man,
I'm still on England, in Scotland time, trying to sleep
later than like eight o'clock in the morning, which is
very difficult.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Well, you and Harmon Bold, you've been exchanging time in Europe.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So what was your experience?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I got a little download from him about his experience
in Ireland?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
What was where do your travels bring you?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I mean, I went. I went to England for a
little bit. I was in London for little bit for
four five days in London, and then went to Scotland
and it was Scotland for the next four or five days.
It was a very big Harry Potter trip, because that's
huge in my house, my wife, my daughter. So we went.
We saw Curse Child on in the West End. We
went and visited so many places where they shot the movies.
And we went to the Scottish Highlands and saw some
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of the big play where Dumbledore's gravest sorry spoiler, uh
the island they had there, I mean it was it
was a really we did. We did a bunch of
other stuff too, but but that was the main gist
was doing all the Harry Potter stuff and it was
just outstanding.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
That's very cool. The Curse Child is being promoted heavily.
I am actually technically on vacation as we speak. I'm
on the East Coast. I'm in Connecticut visiting family. We
landed in New York, though we spent a day meandering
around the city before we made our way up north
to Connecticut. And yeah, Harry Potter was all over JFCA
(02:17):
Airport because that's the new Broadway play, yep, and the
kid wanted to see it. My oldest is very much
so into Harry Potter too, so maybe at some point
I'm gonna have to go over to.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Foggy London town and do the whole.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
See the sites, do Dumbledore's grave, do the whole thing,
because he's very much so into it.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It was I can't tell you what it was like,
seeing something like seeing the actual Hogwarts Express coming over
the part of the mound. It was outstanding. I can't
even till but you know, my absolute best part of
the vacation was I've been saving this. I was saving
this because now we have the Open Championship coming up
coming up tomorrow. We're actually gonna start later on tonight.
We'll be on the air where the Open Championship starts
from Royal True. So we go to Scotland and you know,
(03:00):
my wife plans the trip. We're gonna go here, and
I'm like, yeah, that's great, that's great. And we go
to check into the hotel in Scotland and we're staying
in Dundee and the guy says and he sees me
and I'm wearing my met's hat and he could tell
him a sports He goes, ah, sports fan, huh and
I said yea. He goes, oh, you going to Saint
Andrews while you're here? And I said, well, no, he
didn't plan. I mean, I mean, I don't Saint Andrews.
He goes, Mike, it's it's twenty minutes up the road,
(03:20):
and I said, what you go? They just go over
the bridge. I asked, because if you go over the bridge,
the bridge is closed tomorrow for like an hour and
a half and then you can go over the bridge.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You're right there.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I said, wait, how far are we from Saint Andrews
And he says about twenty minutes. So I look at
my wife and I go, did you know this? Were
you good keeping this front me that I get a
chance to go see royal and ancient I could walk
on Saint Andrews. She goes, no, I didn't know. So
we went to Saint Andrews and it was majestic, and
you see the you walk right off a cobblestone street
and onto the first tee. It's it's amazing, right, it's
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I mean, as soon as I walk on the tee.
I could see Seve Biasteros, I could see Norman, I
could see Tiger and all the legends of the past.
It was just it was so really heavy. But my
favorite part, because you know me, my Twitter handles. How
about a Fresco caddy Shack's my favorite movie. I just
happen to be walking in the parking lot, which is
very tiny, and I walk by and I see a
(04:10):
sign that says reserve for the Captain, and I'm like,
there's a real captain of the Lynx of Saint Andrews,
the guy that gave Ted Knight the jacket. You do
well to know, Lacy, the Captain of the Lynx of
Saint Andrews gave me this jacket. I'm like, is the
Captain here And they said no, he went home about
an hour ago, and go ah. I wanted to get
a picture with the Captain of the Lynx of Saint Andrews,
so I settled for taking a picture of his parking
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spot because it says reserved for the Captain. So they
took a picture of that. I'm like, I can't believe it.
I was starstruck just seeing the parking spot for the
Captain of the Lynx of Saint Andrews, which is a
real thing, real guy who actually exists.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
So, my beautiful wife Annie and her family, they've worked
in the golf business forever and they have to go
out to you know, the the Open Championship, the Masters,
the PGA, They're out all the tour events.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It's just it's just a part of the family business.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
And so my wife, for a long time, before we
had kids, she was working in golf and she would
go to all these events and she'd be like, yeah,
you know, blah blah blah. And then this happened, and
this happened. I'm like, so, what about the golf? And
she was like, yeah, no, no, no, never mind the golf.
She was like, so the flight got delayed in the
hotel room in this I'm like, yeah, yeah, but what
about the golf And she's like, oh, please, enough with
(05:22):
the golf, she was like. And then the hotel didn't
even have like a gym or what. I'm like, wait
a second, what about the golf.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
She she worked in golf, she didn't watch golf, and
so it was all lost on her.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
My goodness for years that I've been begging I'm like, oh,
could you.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Please just sneak me in the luggage at Augusta. I mean,
I mean, honestly, honestly, what.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
You just did taking the picture next to the parking spot.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I would saw a leg, off, I would saw a.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Leg It's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
But yeah, for some you and I I mean, it's everything,
And then for many it's.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Like, who cares about the captain? No? No, no, that
you don't understand. The captain is everything?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Hey, that red jacket, the Ted nightmore in the entire movie,
or like, that's the captain of the Lynx. So like,
so your wife comes home and says, oh, yeah, the
golf was good. The guy they call the lion one
the like you mean Tiger, Yes, Tiger, sorry, tiger? Yes
he one? Yeah that guy won? Yeah right, yeah, nice guy.
Talk to him for what did he say?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Who can remember? What are you talking about? This is
lost on you? Why am I not doing this? It's
lost on you?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And that was all the thing. My family is.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
There, they all know about My wife has been living
with Caddyshack with me for you know, twenty five years now,
So she I go, it's the captain of the Lynx.
Of Saint andrew. She goes, oh, boy, I'm gonna give
you a minute, And so my wife and daughter just
go to the side, and I'm just walking around like
an idiot on the on the you know, on the
first tea of saying I'm going I'm walking on the
first tea of Saint Andrew's. I'm walking on the old course.
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These shoes are walking on the old course, and I'm
just be by myself, and I'm like, i gotta call somebody.
So I call my dad, not realizing my dad is
fast asleep. Dad, guess where I am?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You're on?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Wait, what's going on your vacation, Dad? I'm at St.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Andrews.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
He goes, wow, can you call me later?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Dad, Yeah, I'll I'll call you later.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
But it was I hate to admit this.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I hate to if I ever find my way at
Saint Andrews, I swear, I swear this is what my
plan is. And I don't even know if it's legal,
if it if it is illegal, I don't want anybody
to tell me because I'm doing it anyways.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Take maybe, like you know, maybe a three inch by
three inch square, a chunk of the turf out of
the course, and I'm bringing it home and I'm going
to foster it, and I'm going to grow it and
I'm going to create it. So it is my entire backyard.
So I can say to everybody who I invite over,
do you see this? Do you see this lawn that
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I've created in the backyard. This is the same grass
they use at the old course. This is this is
Saint Andrew's grass. This is it, this is the ancient royal,
this is the stuff. And they're gonna ask me how
did you get it here? And I'm gonna have to
I'm gonna have to lie. But yeah, the truth is
I'm a smuggler. I'm I'm a smuggler of grass across
international boundaries.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And we're not even talking about the good kind of grass.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
We're talking about just grass, because that's how much I
care about that course.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
See now I feel in fear. I feel like I
should have had that idea.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I guess you would have.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I can't believe that I should have called you, Hey,
rich gets ramp, dude, get some grass. What you mean
I'm not doing that? No, no, no, grab some grass,
throw it in. I'll pay you for it. Just bring
it back, make sure it's okay, put it on dry ice,
whatever it has to be. Bring it fancing grass.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
We need grass, we need it. We did it the
words way.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I mean, I'm saying, Okay, this is amazing. And here's
the cherry on top of the Sunday right so it's
it's like I said, it's so accessible. You walk right
on there. It's a twenty second walk walk from the
first te you go over this tiny little cobblestone road
because that that's off the edge of the of the
tea box. And there's a beach that is right next
to the that you see in wide shots at all
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the wh when you see st Andrews off the first
team and you can be on this beach in twenty seconds.
It's the beach they shot the opening and closing scene
for Chariots of Fire on when when they're all running
on the beach, the best picture eighty one, when they're
all running on the beach, the running team and they're
playing the big Chariots of Fire song. I'm like, this
is the Chariots of Fire beach. I'm like, come on,
let's go, let's recreate this. My wife says, you need
(09:21):
to take a step back. You need to calm down
for a second. No, let's just we'll be running like
it's to see. They're all running on the beach and
they're playing the song. And my daughter does all kinds
of stuff. She puts videos up on Instagram and everything else.
Go Zoe'll edit it and put the music on. It
will be running and laughing like they are in the beginning.
She goes, you just need to take a step back
for a second. Okay, let's get some pictures. But we're
not doing that. I'm like, oh wow, okay.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
So now I just realized I don't just need grass,
I need sand. So you just increase the amount of
a tonnage basically my luggage coming back from the old course.
So I'm gonna need an extra carry on or two.
This is going to become a very expensive trip. I'm
so glad you enjoyed it, because, like, honestly, when you're
(10:05):
in Golf Heaven, the Open Championship, the British Open, whatever
you refer to it as, those are hallowed grounds. Those
are important to sports fans, those are important to golfers.
Once you get involved in the sport, and my entrance
to the sport was tiger So I'm hanging on for
dear life. I'm just praying he keeps playing in majors
because he's the reason why I got involved or invested
(10:28):
or interested in golf in the first place. I love
the storyline that was his life intertwined with the sport
of golf. Obviously those two things, those were blurred lines
for a long time. But I'm excited. I'm excited for
every major because any major that he's participating in has
my interest and it will until he considers it done.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
And I don't know when that date is going to.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Be, but I think everybody has to observe with some
level of solace and maybe some sombernists that we're getting
close to the end of his of his time as
an active PGA tour golfer. I don't know when he's
gonna call it quits for good, but we're getting close.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You know. And the funny thing is all those coaching
points you were making about Tiger Woods, and I'm just
thinking rich Orenberger was facing four felonies for stealing from
Royal and Ancient and the beach next to it, trying
to illegally smuggle sand and Grass into the United States.
Richie rich You're gonna be in a gulag. It's gonna
be impossible to get you out. It's gonna be a movie.
(11:30):
Like Daniel Da Lewis will play you in a movie.
All we gotta get him out. We gotta get rich out.
He's gotta get back out of the air and talk.
He tried to take grass.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
What grass?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Oh, there was this big misunderstanding and people thought it
was drugs and it was just actual grass. And now
here's rich Out. They play a triumphant music for you
at the end as you go out and you get
them free air for the first time and Jarroot's a
fire playing out, flipping off the guards on your way out. Yeah,
got my stuff, got the grass, got the sand. But yeah,
(11:59):
but we're gonna have live Uh, We're gonna have live
opening round coverage in like two and a half hours.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It's gonna be outstanding. We're gonna have live Open Championship
coverage here. This is gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
This is gonna be fun. This is a good day.
It's a good day to jump in the seat.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I'm glad to be here with you, and I'm glad
you're back, safe and sound. I'm glad the family had
a good time, buddy.
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Speaker 1 (14:27):
You get podcasts, Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show
with Doctor Rich Ordenberger in from Mike Harmon tonight and Dude,
big ups you man. I didn't know you're on vacation. Yeah,
I said, this is really something or he's got to
get away from his family that you're filling in tonight,
Dan coming in. I mean, that's awesome, dude, Thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I am thrilled to be here with you. There are
very few shows.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That I would I would cut out time from the
vacation and sleep, but this is one of those shows.
I enjoy it every single time. I'll never say no
as long as I can, I'll never say no.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, all right now, because now we got to hold
you to that. Okay, any anytime we call you, hey,
Rich said he would say yes. He said he would
say yes.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
He promises his children, both of his.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Children are gay married on the same day, and he's
gonna find a way to fill in.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
How is it possible he's also performing the ceremony and
it's during the show, and he's going to do the show.
It's gonna be amazing. But we got Jason locking for
coming up in a couple of minutes NFL Insider and look, hey,
you know, look, I don't I don't create the the stories,
but I will react to them. And it sure seems
like rich there's a lot of people in the meetia
that want Davonte Adams to be in New York Jet
(15:37):
and hey, you know me, man, mister Jet, I'm okay
with that. I feel like there's a lot of smoke
with this story, whether it's it's it's Dan Orlovski, whether
it's Boom Marisaiasna, Davante Adams and the Jets. He talked
about it today and said, if I was ever gonna
team up with anybody, it would be Aaron Rodgers. Again,
I kind of feel like Davante Adams and the Jets
is sort of a fade a complete. I don't know that.
(15:57):
I don't know it's gonna happen soon, but by the deadline,
the Raiders wind up the because they can't go into
the season and say, hey, all right, we're gonna deal
Devontannam's before we start. You're gonna you're gonna hamstring them,
And all of a sudden, Antonio Pierce is gonna be
without his best player, and what kind of messages that send.
But as a season goes and the Raiders look they're
clearly gonna rebuild mode, they start losing. Absolutely, I think
(16:19):
the Jets are gonna wind up getting out of here
the deadline.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, the Raiders know exactly where they are. The Jets
also know where they are.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
So the Raiders are at the bottom trying to build
toward the top, and the Jets their window is open
for legitimately, oh just a few more hours. Like so
you have to make a move when or strike, I
should say when the iron's the hottest. And I agree
with you. I don't think this is gonna be an
offseason move. I think to maximize the value of the trade.
(16:46):
It's gonna be something. I don't know if it's week four,
if it's week five, if if it's week eight, but
it's gonna be somewhere closer to the deadline where clearly
the arrow is pointing up for one franchise and pointing
down for the other. I think the Jets are gonna
have a good year, and I'm not placating you. I've
been saying this to anybody who will listen to me,
and a lot of people disagree.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
They don't believe in Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
They don't believe in Robert Sala, they don't believe in
the Jets. Whatever it is. Look, I see things every
single year. Twenty twenty four is not twenty twenty three,
is not twenty twenty two. Every year is a complete restart.
And we've seen this so many times in the NFL.
Teams at the bottom of a division can rise to
the top. Teams that are left for dead can all
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of a sudden have double digit wins.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's how it works in this league. The Jets are
no different.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
And I think that this is assuming health at the
most important position, the quarterback position, this could be.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
A very, very fortunate year for Jets fans.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And here's the thing, though, because I'm with you, the
Jets have a top three roster in the NFL. And look,
I'm not a big Robert Solafan, I'm a big eight
is going to cover up all the ills we have
as long as he's on the field. But I don't
know how much am I really going to be able
to enjoyce where every play I'm gonna say, get up,
get up, get up, you're fired. Okay, you're good. Even
on plays where he hands off, Hey, he wasn't limping
(18:06):
after that handoff, why does he get up? You're okay
right here? He like every single play, I'm gonna be like,
you're okay, right, You're okay right. That's a difficult needle
to thread for an entire season, Rich Well, but.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's every single team. Think about it. Joe Burrow has
an injury history.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Now, the years that he's healthy, they go to the
AFC Championship Game or the Super Bowl. The years he's unhealthy,
the Bengals stink. The same is true for any team
with any starting quarterback. You gotta keep the guy healthy.
The guy is the guy.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Who's taking the snaps from center.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
The guy is the guy who's throwing the football to
the fast guys, you know, the ones who run down
the sideline.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Like Devonte Adams.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
If you keep that guy healthy, you have a very
good chance of having a successful season. If that guy
is good at his job. Aaron Rodgers happens to be
great at his job. He's a four time NFL MVP.
So I leave in experience. I believe in talent. Aaron
Rodgers has both, and unless his health is a serious
(19:07):
question mark, still I'm going to believe that the Jets
are gonna have a good team around Aaron Rodgers because
if you look at the offensive weapons he has, they're incredible.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
If you look at the defense that's all hemmed up.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And again, for whatever you say about Robert Sala as
a head coach, all great head coaches, you know what
they have in common, for the most part, great quarterbacks.
Robert Sala hasn't had a great quarterback and he's still
been able to navigate keeping his job. So it tells
you the faith that this organization has in him and
maybe even Aaron Rodgers has in him as a head coach.
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So I'm very interested to see how this season goes.
And I'm with you, there's gonna be a lot of
pearl clutching every time Aaron Rodgers takes a hard hit
from a defender, and there's going to be a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Of you know, gasps every time he rolls around.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
But you hang in there because every other team is
going through our fan base.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
He's going through that at the same time.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, joining us now in the hotline to break it
down further. Longtime NFL insider Odyssey Washington Post one oh
five seven, the fan in Baltimore. He's on Twitter at
Jason lock and Ford.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
What's happening, Bud? How are you?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
What's going on? Hey? Bear Halter's out, man? So some
some good stuff happened since we left. Exactly got that
fool out of my life, so that was a positive.
Now the Oriols go get Derek scooball and we'll be
rocking and rolling.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Dude, Tay, Hey, I was in London. You think we
hated Burrhalter?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Here?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Southgate had them going to the finals of the euro
and nobody liked them. They all wanted them out right,
So I mean, you think we don't like Burt You going, hey,
you're actually doing stuff in London. It's like, yeah, no,
we got to have him out. We we can't have
this guy. He's got to go.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Well they got there with all right.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So we were talking about the Davante Adams situation. You
had his agent say, hey, trades call, trade talk, speculation,
is baseless. You've had some reports in the media the
last couple of days. Hey, he could be on the move.
He was actually asked to Day about him. If I
team up with anybody, it's going to be Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Are we going to see Davante Adams with the Jets
at some point, whether it's the summer or later on
in the season.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Uh. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. I
do think he could be traded, certainly, I mean anybody
could be traded. Rave Ruth was traded, Wayne Gretzky was traded.
But I don't think that Mark Davis is there now
and by the time he gets there. Personally, I don't
(21:31):
think the Jets. I think Jets will be selling, not buying.
So I don't know that the time frames are going
to match the way that Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers
would would want them to. Yeah. I have a hard
time seeing it happened anytime in the in the uh
short term. And then again, if if if we're in
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mid October and the Raiders are rudderless and they can
get a haul for Davante Adam, I'm sending sure, but
I don't Again, I don't know if the Jets are
going to be in a position where, yeah, you know,
adding another wide receiver is going to you know, fix
this thing again. I tend to think by the middle
of the season, the coach is going to be is
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going to know that he's walking the plank and there's
gonna be a lot of people trying to cover their
own ass and it's going to be a typical Woody
Johnson operation. So yeah, but we'll see, I mean, we'll
we'll we'll see.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
We will definitely see. Staying on the.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Thought of wide receivers and movement in the NFL, Brandon Ayuk,
what team is he going to be playing for Week
one of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Season with one?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
How about we won? He's playing for nobody? Because maybe
he is fucking enough to take this to the limit
a little bit, and I get it. In this CBA,
things get pretty draconian for guy to skip out. But
this might be one that has to bleed into the
regular season to get a forty nine Ers front office
that can be pretty stuck in, that can be pretty stubborn,
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That isn't a whole lot of fun for a lot
of people to negotiate over the years. That might be
what it takes to get their attention and then reach
the point that we saw the Bills get to with
Digs right, and we've seen the Chiefs get to with
Tyreek Kill and like that, that point where it's addition
by subtraction and you know what, this just the fight
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doesn't work it anymore. The discord, the inability to come
to terms here like it's not going to happen. It's
not the work, and so let's do what we can
and move on. Maybe he breaks before that. I don't
think they're getting a deal done unless he caves. I
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don't think they're gonna cave. I think they like being
the bully. I think they'll be the bully to a
point again unless he calls their luft. And now we're
in the season, it looks like he's willing to sit
out at least a decent portion of it. And then
they may just for cohesion, for chemistry, and just for
the sake of the good of their team, they might
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need to move on. And when they reached that point,
If they reached that point, you know, I think Pittsburgh
I think Washington are two teams that would make a
lot of sense that he'd be comfortable going to the
Steelers are going to get another receiver, whether it's him,
whether it's that DeVante Adams scenario down the road, whether
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it's something else. I know that they've sort of budged
in a way that they feel like they can execute
one more big swing there. But yeah, those are some
of the teams I'd be looking at.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
But when it gets to it a point with a
star what he wants to be traded, sometimes it gets
so acrimonious you don't get your preferred destination. Obviously, the
Steelers would be a preferred destination. I think the Bills
are going to wind up getting in it. Once before
it said and done, does the AYUK say do you
preferred destination to you? Or is it going to be hey,
you're going to go play wherever the help we trade
you to.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Well, I mean the reality is preferred or not. Like
there's been common this is the teams are surprised they
didn't trade him at the draft. I mean they are,
and they aren't. They are because common sense would say,
you've got this situation when these two receivers and at
that point you're about to draft his replacement or for
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Day two, Day three of the draft, You've drafted his replacement,
and what are we doing here? You're not going to
get the value you wanted, but you can still get
good values. So it's not like these conversations haven't gone
on and they don't already have a sense of who
you know, who's in and how much they've been willing
to go at various times, Like this situation has been
fermenting right for for quite some time. So I don't
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even know if it's so much about accommodating him or
or that part of it. And yes, it wouldn't get personal.
This wouldn't just be business. But I just think certain
teams are going to be more motivated than others in part.
You know, with Pittsburgh again, they feel like they're a
stud wide receiver away from taking this thing to a
whole other level. Washington, you've got the relationship with the player,
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the player would want to be there. It's a young
front office. They don't have a whole lot of big
ticket items under you know that they're paying for right now.
They shed a bunch of salary the last few years.
They want to play attractive offensive football. They want to
re engage and re energize a fan base. You know
now that we're fully removed from Snyder and we got
a new head coach and don't have Snyder's head coach anymore.
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So I just think it's more about that. I think
the motivation for those teams would put them in a
position where their offers are looking pretty good, and if
it just so happens, that's also where the receiver wants
to be and it accommodates him. So be it.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Jason locking Forward joining us Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
You mentioned a couple of paragraphs ago the Pittsburgh Steelers
interest in potentially bringing along a wide receiver if available,
their rosters not done potentially.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Mike Tomlin, he's such an.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Interesting character because there are certain people within the Steelers
fan base or viewing them from AFAR nationally, that harold
him as one of the greatest coaches of all time
for never having a losing record, And then there's a
lot of people who say, well, what has he done
after Big Ben? And I fall more on the side
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of football's hard. Mike Tomlin's a great coach because he's
been able to make you chicken.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Salad out of chicken.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
You know what, But now he has a couple of
quarterbacks with some potential Russell Wilson justin Fields in trade,
both coming to his program this year. Obviously needs a
little more help around the offense. But how do you
think the Steelers are going to look this year after
having a winning record last year, a playoff berth, but
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an upgrade at quarterback this offseason.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I'm pretty bors with the Pittsburgh Steelers, same very Bolls
Pittsburgh Steelers, And I think, you know, you look at
some of the personalities that Mike Tomlins had to manage,
and you know, you had a period of time where
he had Ben Roethlisberger, right, Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell, Odd
(28:15):
Haley like, they had some like they had some combustible
personalities and for that thing to have stayed together and
to have been as effective as it was for as
long as it was, and doing it at times with
that group with a suspect offensive line, I don't know, man,
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It's like if a pall is hard and everybody has
had seasons where it's just cratered, and the fact that
it never has there I think is absolutely a testament
to his people's skills, his his leadership, the way this
gets over used in this league. But the way he
sets culture, like the way he establishes like and and
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he's had again to now to get different dudes, and
you've had to make special accommodations for people at different times.
He's had to deal with some really unusual stuff and
again some strange cats. And they've always, you know, they've
always managed to be in the race. They've always managed
to be playing games with at least something on the
line in late December, like some other teams in their division, Baltimore,
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they've got to do more in the playoffs now, like that, absolutely,
Like they've got to make more noise in the postseason.
But I think Mike Tomlin is a genius in managing
people and managing personalities, and he has more talent there
now than he's had in quite some time. And I
think they're going to be able to bully people on
the ground in a way that's going to let that
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defense play better than it has even before. And you
look at their winning percentage when Watt's healthy in the
regular season, it's pretty dominant. And you add a Patrick Queen.
If you're a ball control offense now and you're keeping
that defense off the field. You're letting them maybe play
with a lead a little more so they can take
a few more chances and tee off from people a
little more. I think the Steelers. I think Steelers are
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been playing that division. I really do.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
All Right, Jay, one more coach, you got you, let's
end here reports the last couple of days. Maybe Bill
Belichick could be this one and done year on the
television set and could be biding his time for either
the Cowboys, the Giants, or the Eagles after this year.
Is he done? Is one of these teams really on
the radar screen frame after the season.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Doesn't want to be done. He doesn't want to be done.
And look, I wrote a lot about this the Washington
Posts throughout the course of last season, going back to
early last season, when people are telling me, hey, it's
over here, like it's over. He knows that, Kraft knows that,
everybody knows it. It's over. Look. If the Eagles would
have blown out Nick Sirianni, I believe Bill Belichick would
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have been their head coach. I don't think their owner
was willing to go there yet. Their owners dealt with
some interesting personalities himself in the past. They went through
the whole thing with Chip Kelly. You know, a coach
who comes in with sort of that much power. But
I do think he Howie Rosema could co exist and
it would not surprise me if that's where he landed.
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He's an East Coast guy, he's coached, came up in
that division. I just think there's certain franchises where you
could see of Bill Belichick, and yes, the Giants and
the Eagles are two of them. I don't think the
Dallas thing would work. I think that would be an
absolute last resort, total desperation for all parties involved. That
would shock me. You know. Now, you know his mentor
(31:27):
Parcels was there for a while, and it was it
was good for a minute, but it wasn't that long
that one they want to pump. They don't want Bill Belichick.
They want the exact opposite like that. It's just you know,
they had Bill Belichick with Jimmy Johnson. It didn't last
that long, and then it was Switzer and you know
what I mean, and then it's it's just a bunch
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of guys they can control. So but yeah, those two
NFC East teams would not surprise me if they made
a move that that Bill Belichick would get a phone call.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You can bob on Twitter at Jason locking For. That's
at Jason locking For. Check him out on Odyssey Washington
Post one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore. Jay
as always, buddy, appreciate it. Man, we'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Have great week.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Thank you all right, great stuff there from Jason lock
and for. We got great stuff now from them Dall
Martin White, he's got what's trending in the wide world
of sports?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What do you have?
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Hey, guys, we've seen something we've never seen before today.
Bronnie James made it three in summer league. How about that? Well,
there goes my team for what we're gonna do coming
up next.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
That's great. Thanks a lot, Martin can thank you. I
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
He's regularly right now leading the Los Angeles Lakers, leading
both teams of scoring with nine.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Points, four for six from the floor, one for two
from three.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
That brings his summer league of three points shooting to
a blow. The do the math real quick, one for sixteen.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So there you go.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
Bronnie James, Lakers trailing right now Dianlana Hawks fifty to
forty four. Dalton Connect and Zachary resha Chet, the first
round picks of both of these teens, is not playing currently.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
We also saw how many buckets for Alex Sar tonight.
It was for sixteen, oh, for seventeen. I just want
to make sure he's okay. Hey, listen, I pulled the
numbers up on Alex Sar. For Christian rob he's shooting.
He's shooting, no kidding, nineteen percent from the floor, eleven
percent from three. Like, how are you shooting eleven percent
from three? You're still taking six attempts a game? Yeah, well,
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you know, hey, shoot or shoot, right? I suppose so?
I suppose so.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Speaking of shooter shooting, this one was passing. Caitlin Clark
said a single game WNBA record with nineteen assists.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Today.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
The Dallas Wings, though beat the indianaf ever, won on
one to ninety three. Arika on Bungu Wale and Odyssey
Simms both had twenty four for the leading scores on
the winning team. Cala Clark had twenty four herself, a
Leah Boston with twenty eight. Scottie Scheffler the outright favorite
to win the Open Championship. He's been the outright favorite
all four majors in this calendar year. That makes him
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the first golfer to do so since Tiger Woods in
twenty thirteen. Open Championships does start in about three hours.
Jack McDonald, Todd Hamilton, Justin Leonard in the first group
to tee off Hall of Fame Ford.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Cheryl Miller will.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Serve as the coach of the WNBA team during the
league's All Star Game Saturday and Phoenix, while the Olympic
coach Show Reeve will lead Team USA. Earlier today, all right, yesterday,
I should say no still today my bad hand up.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
USA basketball route in Serbia.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
In an Olympic tune up in Abu Dhabi one five
to seventy nine. Steph Curry Leve with twenty four points,
including six three pointers, and Caleb Williams finally signed his
fully guaranteed, four year, thirty nine million dollar contracts. Caleb
asked the Bears not to agree not to use a
franchise tack at the end of his rookie deal, but
the Bears shockingly would not put that in his contract.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Jason and Rich back to you guys, Thanks Rotchmartin. We'll
get to Caleb Williams coming up next hour in the show,
because that's a really interesting wrinkle. Hey I want no franchise. Yeah,
we're not doing that. But coming up next, as you
heard Martin, weis just say something we have never seen
or heard before in NBA history has happened. You will
hear it for the first time. Coming up next right here,
(35:05):
Jason Smith, Richie oh In for Harmon. This is Fox
Sports Radio. We've heard this. Now we've heard this. I
gonna get interesting. Yeah, her rich has heard it, rich
soak it in.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Rich Ornberger Doctor
rich In for Mike Harmon tonight, where we're gonna get
into a big record setting night by Caitlin Clark coming
up in about ten minutes. But Rich, it's very rare
that we get absolute NBA history to break down, and
we have. I mean, we're lucky to have this moment,
this moment in time right now. You and I will
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bond over this moment for the rest of our lives.
I'll say, when this happened, I was on the air
with rich Ornberger. That's what I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Say, Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is this is truly going
to be one of the those like where were you
win moments?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Sure, yay history. I really feel like this.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Has really kind of been I don't know, I don't
know if we were necessarily waiting for the moment for
our friendship to be forged in in perpetuity, but here
we are, like, we get to enjoy this moment together.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
What a phenomenal night for the two of us.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
One disclaimer though, yeah what you got for Rosberg. I
don't think the announcers realized the moment really. I think
it was well, that's okay, we're gonna do it here,
It's all right. But I dig your analogy. It's kind
of like when when you're dating your wife, your girlfriend,
when did you know, well, we had this moment, right
we had this moment where you know, we did The
waitress asked us both kinds of what pie we wanted,
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and both of us wanted chocolate satin pie. We looked
at each other and we knew that was our moment, Like,
this is our moment right now, this is you and
me our moment on the air. The very first time.
And this has never happened before in NBA history. They've
been playing since they had peach baskets up. And I'll
and and and and Canada was inventing the NBA all
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the way.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
We're going back Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
All hundreds and hundreds a year. I mean, Naismith was
from Canada, so I mean, I'm sure he was doing
stuff while he was watching the NHL playoffs. Of course,
since the invention of the peach basket, since the invention
of the NBA, we have never had this happen. And
it's clear that it makes sense. That's four one hundred.
This once point you, this once proud franchise is able
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to hang its hat on this moment that we have
never heard or seen until now at the.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Arena audience as well as a television audience.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
As a Laker, there it is Bronnie James, his first
three pointer as a Laker. He was OH for fifteen,
Megan OH for sixteen, but he hits his first three.
The Lakers radio network, Rich you and I our friendship
is now over Bronnie James' first three.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I feel like we've consecrated, ultimately a lifelong bond and
this will this will never end, just like the relationship
the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Have with the James family.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I'm sure we saw Lebron senor it will be Lebron Junior,
Lebron the third. I'm sure we'll be coming down the
pike somewhere soon, and I'm sure Bronnie will want to
play with his son and his son after that. Oh,
it is going to be a lineage. It'll be a
family affair. I applaud Bronnie James in some small way
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for shooting through what is going to be a turbulent offseason,
what is going to be a turbulent season, because he
is not Lebron James senior. He is he is a
very different player. He is a very inferior player to
his father, and unfortunately, in the big business with bright
(39:00):
lights and with a lot of millions and in some
cases billions of dollars riding on performances, man, oh man,
the criticism gets harsher and it cuts closer.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
To the bone.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
And I know that his father is doing a good
job guarding him from some of that, and the Lakers
are doing good job guarding him from some of that.
But look, the slings and arrows they're coming. And it's
not just gonna be off the court.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It's not just.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Gonna be knuckleheads like me or you or anybody else
who are going to be able to say things to him.
It's gonna be the whispers on the court, you know,
in the hallway. Every once in a while, he's gonna
turn a corner and people are gonna stop talking, and
he's gonna be wondering if they were talking about him,
And they everywhere he goes, the words, the word nepotism
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is going to be close to the conversation and call
it fair or not. That's just the way it's going
to be for Bronnie. And I feel for him in
some way. If he has the toughness to make it
through a single season of dealing with that, good for him,
because I don't know if I would be able to
do it.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
And apparently rich Ornberger was a mean girl in high school.
When you cross that corner, you're gonna wonder if I'm
talking about you. Richie always just fretting, Godsip everywhere he
goes that keeps trying to make fetch happen. I don't
understand he's so mean, don't talk to Richie O.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Don't talk to him. Look, I mean, let me ask you, Jason.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
So this has been going on for I don't know
a month, maybe a little longer than that. Now are
you Are you feeling any differently about Bronnie being a
Laker than you did the day he was drafted.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Look, I honestly, and we'll get into this coming up
next week with Kaitlyn Clark. I think things are gonna
start calming down for Bronnie James. Now I actually see
this differently, that things are gonna start calming instead of
getting worse. We got that, we got the record setting
night for Kaitlyn Clark. Coming up next, Jason Smith, mean girl,
rich Hornberger, this is focks