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Jason and Mike get you all caught up on the MLB Trade-deadline. Longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys for the latest on the Cowboys, Patrick Mahomes and Tua Tagovailoa. Plus, Patrick Mahomes says he's not underpaid.

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Speaker 4 (00:54):
Glorious.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
As we watch the Mets in the midst of fifteen
to one, pasting over the twins and trades coming in
every five seconds in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yeah we'll see what uh what other broken down piece
the White Sox can bring in. Highlight of my day
was that the bullpen gathering around in a circle and
pouring went out. For the trade of Michael Kopek. There's
the highlight fact that.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
He's never turned out to be any good or the
fact that he got traded. Wow, sorry, buddy, I mean,
come on, man, Well he came down from injury van
had a high walk rate and all that fun stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
But they trade for a guy with a broken leg. Yeah, no, no, White,
So well, they're trading for the future. That's what trading
in the future, the future, right, Like Kakuchi just got traded.
We just watched Frankie Montez get traded to the Brewers.
Like there's been so much activity and we're still up
against the deadline tomorrow. And you know, I keep going
back to last week when we talked to John Paul Moros,
who said this is gonna wind up being the best,

(01:51):
most fun deadline I've ever covered, because the sheer number
of trades is going to be immense because so many teams.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
We're in it.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
We're in it. Look, teams didn't a couple of trades
last week, and it's okay, we're not waiting, and the
Mets make a couple of trades and every for some reason,
everybody's the White Sox have twenty eight win. Everybody's calling
the White Sox call. I mean everybody some sucks.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Doesn't mean that there isn't some value in the component parts. Yeah,
I mean including one guy who wants to set his
own demands as you you want to trade for me,
you want to trade for me. I need some guarantees here.
I like the cut of his gym. That's my kind
of guy. Two things have hit me today, Yeah, say one?

(02:33):
And first talking about the trade deadline, I was talking
about a great GM. I would be of a sports team.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Sure that you'd be an ace handbag. Well, that's the
other thing you had, that's a handball man.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Because I really think I'd be great at handball. I
could be a Winter Olympic and curling some Olympic handball.
That's me. I just just push my training for everything.
That's to the Jets. That's the jew it's handball.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
I just curling for a.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Couple of years and take a break, then I go
to hand by I come back is I would be
the worst GM. As great a GM as I would be,
I would need to like to do like the the
twenty fifth Amendment where the GM steps aside for the
trade deadline and somebody else comes in, then I take
power again because I would be the worst GM at
the trade headline, because I would want to trade. I
would trade all my prospects. I would trade everybody if

(03:19):
they had if they were zero for four the day before,
get rid of them, get them. But Alonzo's been not
Get right of man. Get somebody else in there. I
would be the worst because I would want to trade,
ride the light everybody, and they would try to talk
me off it, and I know, make this deal, make
this deal. I'd be the worst GM. But you've seen
his split something the last month. You saw what he
did yesterday. We need I need support now. I've been

(03:44):
staring at that box score for the last two days.
We had two runs of last two days against the Braids.
Let's do something. I would be the worst. I would
be the worst. Well, but it wouldn't be a good
assistant GM, because I'd be if I was Jonah Hill
and Billy Bean's office, I'd be going, what are you doing?
You haven't picked up the phone in eight minutes. Call someone,
get somebody else for the pulp, and get another starting pitcher.

(04:05):
Seng us out for the season, pick up the phone,
make a call.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
That would be full on someone hacked my phone, because
you'd be the guy making all the calls, like why
do I Why am I getting all these calls from
from gms? Like we didn't put anything out there. It's
like I took your phone. I took your phone. Where's
when I started emailing everybody and texting everybody. I was
on WhatsApp. I can deny it because it's going to disappear.

(04:31):
It's purely private. All of those things.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'd be, I'd be the word. I mean that, That's
how I would be. I would get so caught up
in the fever of making and it's not like And
the thing is is, I don't know that I would
trade anybody from the from the Kurt like I would.
I'd be saying, Okay, well we could get this guy
was a little bit below average player, but we need
a center field er, we need whatever it is, and

(04:55):
we trade one of our best prospects. But who knows
that this kid's gonna be I got nothing in that's
make the deal, make the deal, make the deal, and
I would that's what I would do.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
See that would be terrible but now you're coming around
to a philosophy I've been espousing for a very long time.
There's gonna be rarefied air, and do not you know,
break you know, break glass in case of emergency guys,
in terms of prospects. Otherwise, everybody's on the block. Everybody's
on the block if it can help me now, because
the winning time is now? How many times do we

(05:26):
watch this in the NFL, major League Baseball, whatever. It's like,
I've got a chance, I've got a team that can
get there. Are you willing to make this move?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Now?

Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's like, nah, I can't sacrifice those draft picks.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
I can't sacrifice you know, that prospect who might be
a four A guy, you know, like a Vargas.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Kind of thing. Baby, yeah, baity.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I mean, there's the history is littered with But this
is why I'd be good the rest of the time
is because anybody else calls for trade, I'm gonna be
really hesitant because I know my guys, and if it's
a guy that I like, I'm not gonna trade it.
I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna do it. I'm not
gonna trade somebody I really like. So now if I'm
come a GM and I trade you. You know, I just
don't like you. But are you talking about your drinking buddies?
Guys that go to McDonald's runs with you. McDonald's, those

(06:07):
are the guys that you keep around.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
He'd buy me a big Mac.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
I can get my own, bab They found you the
the best big Macs, the menu and Canada.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
When McDonald's runs is what you get after fair point?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I trade you? And how about this for this guy?
For the number two prospect? Yeah, I'll send you a
kid who will run to McDonald's for you for the
next three years anytime you want to.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, I know you would adopt it.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Like when people teams visit Wrigley Field, Like the tradition
is you have to go over in uniform and go
to the Starbucks and do the Starbucks.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
You'd be making kids go to McDonald's. And there used
to be McDonald's right across the street. Yeah, across the street.
There used to be right from wriggly I wouldn't kill
I wouldn't travel with the team. I wouldn't know where
the McDonald's are. I wouldn't try to stay at home.
I don't travel with the team. I want you to
travel with the team. No, But the rest of the time,
I'd be great. But trade deadline, I know I would
lose my head and I would just go crazy and
I wouldn't be able to sit there for I would

(07:02):
be on you know, I could.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Be flintstony and bet bet bet.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
When you get to that point with your fantasy team
where you look at your team you're like, Okay, I'm
I'm four and six. The trade deadline is coming up.
I gotta do something, you know what, screw it, And
I would just start sending emails to everybody that I
think I could drive some owners. I wouldn't trend because
I know you're just gonna be ridiculous, but everybody I know,
why not just coverage from Shoulders I should have called

(07:30):
him for a trade in the last twenty four hours,
would have done it. But the people I know, I'm like,
I'm just I'm gonna do it. I'm just gonna do
I'm gonna send this stuff out and do it. And
I would just because I get Jones and like that,
like we need another starting picture, we need this, we
need this, we need and I wouldn't be able to
stop myself. I really I wouldn't it would be someone
get in that room and and take the you know,
cut the phone lines. Uh, Suzanne, make sure make sure

(07:51):
Jason's not really talking to anybody who's real. Yeah, no problem.
Like when he says, you know, put me through to
Brian Cashman. I got a buddy who's gonna pretend to
Brian Cashman. You call his number and you just say, great, yeah,
he pretends to be Brian. Can remember you have to
be Brian Cashman. Yeah, ye, yeah, no problem, no problem.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
It sounds like, you know, going back into our history
books when we we would be stuttering studying FDR's work,
and it was the idea of do something even if
it's wrong, because you had to keep keep track of
all the different acronyms for all the different works programs.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
That kind of got started. You're doing the.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Same thing with trades, like I'm just gonna keep calling.
Eventually we're going to hit on something that we're gonna
get something where Yeah, I mean really, we're on the
eighteenth call with this guy today, Like you're a starker.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
What you call prank?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Leave me alone. Just do whatever trade he wants so
he stops calling. Okay, just do we really care about
h he wants it eighteenth pro stops calling for twenty
twenty seven. Whatever, just do it. Whatever, I don't do it,
do it. I don't care. I just whatever whatever it
is to get him to not call anymore. Because I
got to take his call because he's a GM. But
whatever it is to make him to get him not called, that's.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
That's the other thing. Is there an honor code amongst
gms that you actually have to take the call?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think you do. I think you do because you
never know. You never is there.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Just that picture like outside of a studio that don't
you not let this guy in the lot or don't
let this guy in the stadium.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
If your kid calls your cell phone, you're always going
to answer. You know, certain people go you got to answer,
Like it's like I have a lot of folks whore
I just kind of look at and go. Then like
in the movies when they look at the phone and
throw it, okay, you know they don't like that person. No,
I think you have to answer. I don't think because
you never know what if that guy has a moment
of or or woman has a moment of weakness and
complete lunacy and they're like, hey, I want to trade

(09:35):
your payne. He's making us look bad. All right, all right,
that's great. Who do you want? I don't know, maybe who? No, Maybrie,
He'll be fine, ed, all right, great, I'll make.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
You pick up the phone as a guy telling you
that he's been reading how desperate.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
You are on the message boards and the fan blogs.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I think you had you never you never know when
someone's gonna have a moment of craziness, and that would
be me, and they would have to stop, like maybe
two weeks before the deadline. They would have to have
some kind of interview that didn't involve me. It would
be okay. So here's how we deal with Jason the
next couple of weeks. Why oh the deadline's coming up. Yay, okay, okay.
We're gonna call this one his special phone, and we're
gonna tell him that this is the direct line to

(10:12):
all the other gms.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Where does it actually connects?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Here's the rule. If he tells you about somebody he
wants to trade for, you just tell them you heard
he's hurt. That's all just I don't care. But he's
gonna see that he's playing. No, no, no, doesn't need
to be hurt that he's out of the lineup. But
just is hurt. And he's not a guy you want
to trade for. Everybody is hurt.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Bad just bad clubhouse guy. But then but don't don't
say he's hurt, Just say you hear he's a bad
clubhouse guy. But he's gonna take take the energy of
the club. You don't want him in a bad direction.
You just don't want him around.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
You don't want the guy. You don't want him. I
don't want Bryce Harper. No, I don't want Bryce Arp.
You don't want him. You don't want him. But what's
after a week? Jay's gonna run around going everybody's hurt?
Or is the cancer in the clubhouse? Don't worry. I'll
take that. That's that's what I get paid for. I'll
tell that. Don't worry about. He's gonna be in his office.
It's okay.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Just whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Anybody he's interested in is hurt. And anybody on the
team or anybody in the minor leagues, if it's a
minor league that's gone over, you tell them there was
a reason. And they're about to You've heard from all
the scouts. They're about to turn.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
The little extra time in the hitting came out to
turn the corner.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
We're doing film review last night.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
They found a little hitch in his giddy up and
we're gonna get that rectified and tell tell him that
it's okay, and then put a big Mac in front
of him.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
And then you tell him that he just moved his family,
he just put his kid in school. You can't trade him.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
And then you give him the big Max. He's finally
gotten settled.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
They put a nice down payment on a three bedroom
condo near the stadium so he could put in the
extra work.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I mean, how many big macs you have to give him?
Probably about three a day. It's it's a three a
day big mac. The trade deadline. Then after the trade
deadline is over, we're fine. We're good.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
We'll get him back out of his normal diet and restrictions. Yeah, yeah,
so we can get him ready for next trade dead Everything.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Is fine, He'll he'll be. He gets past it very easily.
He moves forward. That'll work. But I would be I
would be the absolute worst GM. I'd be the worst guy.
Right well, yeah, I mean, you'd be on tilt.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
There's no question about yeah, right, center fielders struggling a
little bit. Who can we get you know you're looking
at and just war across the league and just being
desperate to like somebody, because that's the hard part for this.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Right, so many Kenny Lofton, Just get me Kenny Lofton.
I know we can still play.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
He can still track down a fly ball or two.
You always go back to Kenny Lofton. Get Kenny loft
is going to be seventy five years old here.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I bet people still think he's center fielder for the Gardens.
Still hiding out for the name change and everything else.
He's still there. But the Richill is going to be
that guy.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
His talk, he's coming back down.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, Richell is still pitching. Richell is still get me
rich and we need somebody need a trade deadline guy,
go get Rich.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
But it's it's a weird deadline.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Go back to the original point with JP last week
was just there's so many teams that are peripheral contenders.
Are we talking about the Cubs last week as a
team that if you read any bit of correspondence coming
out of Chicago, they're dead in the water. But They're
only five and a half out of the wildcard, right, It's.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
One good week.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Oh yeah, an injury and a bad week for one
or two other teams, and all of a sudden you're
back in the mix.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Right and you saw the trade with the Rays. My
mom is said, both teams are dead to her now, okay,
because they got rid of a Rosarna. That was it
for her. That was the end of it. That was
the last of her guys.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Name on the front of the jersey always more important
than name of the sentimental sentimental attached to a player.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Done.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
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Speaker 4 (15:37):
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Speaker 1 (15:38):
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Speaker 3 (15:46):
Let it out?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
It's a safe space, you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Man. At this point, they should honestly trade Corvin Burns.
I mean, that's how this guy really wants to do,
is collect prospects. If you got all that for Cacucci,
you no over in the warehouse. What could we get
from Burns? Oh my god, we should flip it into
the greatest trade ever. Wake me up when they do
something real.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh that's a new TV show for they.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Got they got five guys playing positions, they got no
business playing tonight against Toronto's Triple A team, and they're
getting out class. They get a joke, pathetic.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, maybe Ripken'll come back and give you a couple
of innings at short You know you probably you can.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Probably it couldn't be any worse to Jordan Westbird tonight
and it's just and the kid. The kid's got enough
one has played as a twenty four year old first
year player like Jackson Holliday. I thought he's the greatest
shortstop prospect in the history of the world, the ultimate
untouchable guy, the greatest prospect ever. Counter Henderson finally needs
a day off. Jorge Matao has hurt. They got nobody
in their entire organization, the greatest farm system ever Baseball America,

(16:47):
year after year after year. Oh my great. All they
care about is death in the future. They got two
guys in the entire organization. Apparently he catch the ball
at shortstop. Okay, you know what it is for everybody.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
If there's an opening, I would I would write a
letter for you to be jam of the Orioles.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
No, I don't know. I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh, come on, want fantastic.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I'm not qualified. I'm not qualified. And this guy's great
at a lot of things, but as the guy who
puts this franchise over the top by managing the tippy
top of the organization, I got major questions. They ma
or major question He keys down his leg at this
deadline like he did last year. You know, they got
a seventy five year old owner. Now like you want

(17:29):
to keep playing the long game, son that that's cute.
You're also gonna have to cutch nuts and make some
trade and do some real stuff Christian Pasha and the
sixth inning reliever while the Yankees are getting Chisholm and
probably Flairty like wake up.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I mean you are twenty games over five hundred, so
there you have a little.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Bit to play with.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, people haven't won here, you know, in forty one years,
and they didn't build a game for October last year,
and apparently they learned absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing from that
because they have the exact same war and holes as
they did then, you know, And if you want to
inherit a bunch of players and not have the balls
to extend any of them or trade any of them,

(18:07):
and you kick the curb with them forever, and you
tell me how your prospects are always so great, but
you never actually want to put them here until somebody
gets hurt and you're forced to do it. And you
tell me you have all this depth, but I don't
see it manifesting much at the Triple A level because
you're platuning at six different spots. So how much conviction
do you really have than anybody? And you won't trade

(18:30):
any you know you won't. The prices are always too high,
and outside of renting Corbyn Burns for one year, and
even then, you still didn't to trade one of your
tippy top prospects, like he just keeps them off, like
if you save this stuff for a rainy day, like
it's storming, it's storming. Like their last thirty games, they're
an abject failure. Their bottom five bullpen, their bottom three

(18:52):
starting rotation. They've given up six runs or more in
twenty of their last thirty games, and they've been all
two three runs or less than sixteen of them. Like
they're in a lot of trouble right now. And the GM,
you know, he's got the parade route for twenty twenty
eight figured out. I just want to find out when
these games really count, like in their master plan, I'm

(19:12):
dying to know, like which August matters? But what's is
the August where we really got to go for it now,
you know, because Gunner's twenty seven and we've only got
it for one week. I just want to know what's
your counts and then it'll change my fandom. I won't
care about these games either, Like when they get real
about it, then you know, maybe I will.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Jason Locking Forward with Us The Jason Smith Show with
Bike Arment Lot the diireg dot com Studios. All right,
let's talk some football. Let's let's get you off a baseball.
Let's talk about something more fun. The last couple of days,
we've certainly seen a lot of drama. Jordan Love gets
the big fifty five million dollar extension, as does to
a tongue of Iloa today, Patrick Mahomes says, no relation
to that. I'm not overpaid. I'm not underpaid. Rather, I

(19:53):
feel good where we're at. What's your big takeaway from
what we've seen the last few days quarterback wise, Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
It's put out. We've talked about this for a while
kind of how I thought it would like. The Packers
are a big boy organization. They dealt with what they
had to deal with with that clown. They're on the
other side of that. They've got a rising as sending
player who's actually good for team morale and camaraderie and
everything else, who served his time on the bench like

(20:19):
Aaron Rodgers did a long time ago and then was
brought along at the right time. So he was he
was going to get the reset deal. And when when
you're that good and you get that much money guaranteed
and they only buy four years of your service time,
trust me, that's the Grand Slam deal. And Tour was
going to be an overpay somewhere in the you know,
low fifties, and it was I mean, that's kind of
where that was always going. And there's obviously, you know,

(20:42):
there has to be concerns about him moving forward given
what he's experienced in the past, and Jerry doesn't want
to spend money anymore. We've covered that one. And I
told you, guys, I mean pretty much everything I told
you last week. Did you listen to Dak the other day?
It's like he has always confirmed it, like okay, like
you've had your problems around here forever, and you think

(21:04):
I'm going to be this little guy who's always coming
back to you for the final offer or whatever, and
you know, you're giving your stupid analogies about you like
to hold on the ball forever, playing options football, and
that's pretty much said, you know, I'll take my ball
and go home like all these other guys are done.
I'm the last guy standing. I'll go get the market.
I mean, he's openly talking about all these other quarterbacks
have changed teams. So that's where my you know, sense

(21:26):
was that his head was. And people I know who
know him kind of felt like, you know, hey, Jerry,
you wanted to play it out, that's great. Be careful
what you what you look for because there is no
hometown discount and there is no offer, you know, right
a last refusal. And if these guys are getting this
other money and I go out and have another year
like I did, somebody's somebody's going to break the bank
for me, and it's not going to be you. I'm

(21:46):
going to move on. And you see what it's like
with a rookie quarterback again, you don't want to pay
anybody good luck by the quarterback making a couple of
million bucks. You see how that worked out. No, they're
gonna win too many games to get a super high
draft pick. The I mean, they're in the NFC. They're
in the nfcas they still have some talent. They beat
up bad teams, like they don't lose the teams they
should beat they just don't beat anybody who's about as
good as them, are better than them.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
So with Jerry kicking the can down the line, some
reports over the weekend that they did put out some
contract offers. Do they get any of these three guys done?
Or do we go into a lame duck twenty four?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Oh, something's got to get done. I mean, I progh,
you're not going to pay the receiver, Like if you're
already looking and got one eye towards a kid quarterback
next year, you're going to get like what you know
what I mean? Like you're you're not going to give
them ceede Lamb to catch one hundred and ten balls,
you know what I mean, to dominate the slot and
win in high traffic areas and make make you know,

(22:40):
a high percentage spros come through for you, Like what
planet am I on? Like? They don't have anybody who
runs the ball there who's special? Right, the offensive line
is starting to get way up there and is in
transition and disrepair. Who are the skill guys? Like? Who
else is making any money there? Like from a long
term standpoint, you get and if you think the quarterback

(23:01):
market is just too rich for your bloody you won't
pay those guys anymore, then then you better at least
pony up thirty for the wide receiver, like or what
are we doing here? Or close up shop? Trade everybody?
It's all your team, Like I I you know which
he's ever going to do because they make money hand
over fifth and obviously Steven's gonna run it for a
long time. But no, I mean that that's got to
get done. And as great as the linebacker is, at

(23:21):
the end of the day, it's a linebacker. It's again,
compared to quarterback salaries, it's nothing, and I don't think
that'll be easy. But at City Lamb doesn't get done
in the next week, I mean, if it doesn't get
done by the second preseason game at least like in
the next couple of weeks, then this is then then

(23:42):
you know, Cowboys fans will walk out. I mean, it's
it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, the thing that with with Jerry though, is how
could he say I'm all in on this year, all
on this year. He's pushed Dak's contract to the point
where they could lose him. Can he really give CD
Lamb money and have the team go Wait a minute,
so where was this money for other players where his
money to make us better than Like that could come
back and backfire on him too.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
I mean it could, but like the guy who would
be the most pissed about it already has one foot
out the door, Like who who I mean? And I mean,
who's gonna Like first of all, he could say whatever
he wants. The whole thing is a kabookie theater act
like that, This whole thing is just a charade, Like
it's a shell game. And I don't think anything there

(24:28):
would change again until like how many people are out
there in Oxtar today, Like what's he going to change?
Like what people respond like like him respond to financial
you know, fiscal stimuli, like the business of the Cowboys
is still booming, Like you don't think he's selling Jersey's
hand over fist out that you know, and laughing about
the fact that Mark Davis what the California is trying

(24:50):
to run his practices but nobody the Aaron Coast to
Mesa and and you know, Jerry's got a whole community
to himself, Like I don't think he loses sleep over
this stuff, like you know, dirty little secrets. He's not
really trying to win. He hasn't really tried to win
in a long time. And at the same time, he's
probably more profitable, profitable than he's ever been because he's

(25:13):
he stopped spending over the cap the way he used to.
I mean, look, if she can't get a bite at
the apple every year, and he's he's around it, he's
just being a businessman. Like it's basically I'm just I'm
around it, but I'm never really in it, and I
never really team to be like I don't need to
do that reset in the market here and there and
there and there. I let other people do that. Like

(25:34):
I could be in the vicinity in this crappy division
and and spend not nearly like I used to in
the past. And that's just that's that's the new norm
for them. And I don't think it changes again until
it hits him in the pocketbook. But I don't think
people are going to stop going to those games and
stop buying his beers and stop buying his jerseys. And

(25:54):
you know, I just brand is pretty strong.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
No, we have the fun and exciting revisionist history because
we always like to go back to drafts outside, but
not often you get a former GM who does it
John Elway going boy that Josh Allen, he would have
looked really good. Uh, the one that got away and
going back to Bradley Chubb revisionist history. But you know,
you're looking at a franchise that you do in a

(26:18):
complete reset and trying to figure out whether Sean Payton's
still a genius.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, I mean, look, it got away from them there.
You know when Peyton hurt his neck and Oswaller played
well for a while and there was a little bard
Clay to be better than Peyton at that stage, and
you know then they got sort of remember he wanted
to give os Waller a ton of money too, Like
they couldn't evaluate the quarterback position, right, I mean Paxton
Lynch that whole thing, and like it. Yeah, it completely

(26:47):
got away from him. I mean, Sean's gonna be there
a long time though. And look, if this doesn't work
out with bo Nicks, he he will be on to
the next guy and maybe in the next guy, you know,
in the top three of top five next year. Like
I still think I think time's done and I just
have thought that for a while. I ceased the door

(27:09):
Sanders there, man, I just I think that could end
up making a whole lot of sense for them. And
he slips bo Nixt for whatever, you know what I mean,
for whatever, Like that's been happening for a while, right,
Josh Rosen like that, that's not a new phenomenon. So
I only his hands are tied in any way, shape
or form. He is absolutely positively playing the wrong game,

(27:30):
and he does want to win, and I think eventually
he will win. I don't if we win the Super
Bowl or not, but I do think he'll be able
to build that franchise in time up to one that
can at least nip at the Chiefs heels. But I
think we're a couple of years still away from that.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
He's on Twitter at Jason Locking for that is at
Jason lock and for it. Check him out on Odyssey
Washington Post one five seven the fan of Baltimore. Jay
is always buddy appreciated man, Thanks so much. Well thanks
how about that? Shador Sanders in a year in Denver
does make a lot of Dean can still stay in
Colorado and he can kind of be the de facto

(28:08):
head coach of the Broncos along with Sean Payton. Wally's
coaching Colorado I don't know if some of these college
wizards thinks he should be at USC.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Dude, if they, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
If they, if they made Bronny to the to USC
work for lebron they they can make Shador to the
Broncos work. Hey, this will work for everybody.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Kind of interesting that you didn't find a way to
carve out a minute or two to talk about Jets
camp everything. Why all I'm doing is watching videos of
slow mo of Aaron Rodgers throwing the football. It's great.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Did you see the guy doing the play by play
of the little dust up between Rogers and Garrett Wilson
on SAT? I couldn't play it because of all the expletives.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, but at the end it was fine.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
You know, if you've been here.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
It's fine. It's fine, dude, It's it's a it's.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
If you hadn't been off in the desert, maybe that
timing would have been better.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Aaron Rodgers was great in camp the last four days.
Today was not a great day, and he yelled at
the team and the team was like, okay, we got
to pick it up. Okay.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
I just kind of chuckled down. Most of the things
that get highlighted are. The connection he has with Ellen
Lazard just makes me laugh.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
That's all except today.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
The interception through today was in Lizard's hands bound up
there for a pick. That's how it goes. But I'm
telling you, man, I'll tell shoot or Sanders for the Broncos. Boy,
that would be something that really was. I feel like
Jason Lock and Forrest said it. And now it's just
going to have speak and somebody else is gonna have
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(29:35):
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. We got a double shot of big
basketball stories coming your way in about ten minutes, but
thanks to Jason locking for for stopping by a few
minutes ago. We talked all the big contracts that have
been signed the last few days. Quarterbacks, we got Tua
Jordan Love getting fifty five million dollar a year extensions,

(31:12):
and today Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes was asked, hey, dude,
do you feel underpaid because your ten year, four to
fifty million dollar deal has now been surpassed because these
guys are getting fifty five million a year, And he said, no,
I feel fine. I manage my money pretty well. It
helps us, you know, we move money around a little
bit here and there, but it gives us flexibility to

(31:32):
sign players. I don't feel underpaid, and that's a cool thing.
And I know everybody's running with the whole Brady all,
we took less money to bring new players in and
give the team financial flexibility and all that's good, which
then head I got it didn't do but if you
go back, it was great in theory. Yeah, but and
still it's okay. You can move around. He's okay with
converting mony to signing bonuses whatever it is. So I

(31:55):
know people are running with that, but it's really simpler
than that, and it's a different way that people are
thinking about this. Like what I say is Patrick Mahomes underpaid,
and I look at what the other guys are and
I go absolutely not. You know, why because Patrick Mahomes
because of what he is, how good he is, what
he's accomplished, he is going to see every penny of
that ten year, four hundred and fifty million dollar contract. Right,

(32:18):
So he's gonna make four and fifty million dollars at
a minimum, definitively in over this ten years in five years.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's because now you have two and let's take two
and Jordan Love right here. In five years are two
in Jordan Love gonna sign two hundred and forty million
dollar contracts? Maybe, but likely not. These guys are going
to be in their early thirties. Who knows where they
are health wise, You don't know. It's a gamble, it's
a risk. Maybe they get that money, but maybe not
because this is still too in Jordan Love. If their

(32:48):
teams thought they were the guys forever, they would assigned
ten year deals too, But they're not, because Miami and
Green Bay both want to know. Okay, if they have
a down year this year, right, would bring him back
in a year, all right, So then we're looking at
two years from now. We have to get out from
under this. If neither of them turned out to be
any good, or they don't continue to get better. They
only sign him to four year deals. If they thought
they were there guys forever, it would have been bigger deals.

(33:09):
They would have signed a way to do that so
they could move money around and make it easier, just
like Patrick Mahomes did. But when you combine those two things,
you know that Mahomes is gonna see every single bit
of that money and these guys may not right, and
these guys may not it tells you that, Okay, so yeah,
really he's not underpaid because he's gonna get all of
that money and these guys may not.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Well, and he may be right.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
It's the old Michael Jordan thing from years in the
NBA and pick you know your athlete at their peak
in whatever span that is lebron on down the line,
relative to what the league is based on what they're doing. Sure,
you could say they're underpaid. For your point. For Patrick Mahomes,
he could go back and fight for more. Got a

(33:52):
half a billion dollars, not to mention all the endorsements
everything else that's flowing for him. That it's not you're
gonna quibble over over the those dollars right now, and
it's all guaranteed and it's all gonna be paid out.
And it goes back to you know the other guy
that played alongside Michael Jordan for years who belly ached
about the deal that he signed. You signed a long

(34:12):
term deal for your security so you could get your
guaranteed money. And yes, you outplayed the terms of said contract,
which is why you were warned by many, including those
that you were signing the contract with, don't do this.
You're gonna get mad because you're gonna play it with Mahomes.
It's a half a billion dollars. That's guaranteed money.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, so while he's technically yes, you could say underpaid
because he's now out of the top ten or whatever
on average salary per year. And you look at some
of these names out here, and this is where you
can do the hot take nonsense, like look at he's
so much better than this guy, and demonstratively better than that.
It's the market will bear short term investment versus his

(34:57):
long term protracted growth of that of those dollars.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's all good, and if he's comfortable with it, everybody
else just shut up.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Here.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
He was earlier today talking about moving on and being
okay with the money he signed for a couple of
years ago. Yes, I'm angry, But why because you were
supposed to stop at the seventh floor. Don't you know
what's gonna happen. Don't you know that he's gonna hear
that and understand that Frostburg's the game day producer for

(35:29):
Chargers status time. It's personally, you're gonna get a stat
from somebody. Clear, you're gonna get a statement from somebody
close to Mahomes is gonna say.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
We're gonna remember that.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
You remember that next time we play, and suddenly he's
gonna throw like eight touchdowns against you. You just screwed
frost protect the fans with the Raiders last week. Yeah,
they just completely screwed him.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
What if he screwed himself?

Speaker 1 (35:49):
No, No, the Raiders do with the Kermit doll. Mahomes
are gonna throw nine touchdowns against them next year. They
screwed themselves. Now, you just screwed the Chargers. Well, first off,
that wasn't Kermit, that was Mahomes. And second off, how
do you know Justin didn't want to play that? No,
I know he did. He doesn't want that smoke, He
doesn't want Mahomes. He Mahomes, No, I know, but he
doesn't want to smoke. Though, doesn't mean just because you

(36:10):
don't like something doesn't mean I want that smoke. You
don't want that. I want that smoke. No, you don't care.
You don't care.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
You want to smoke because it brings the clicks. First
you get the money, then you get the power.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
But you just screwed the chargers. Now now great, okay,
all right, they're welcome. Hey, uh well, I'm I got
Mahomes in a couple of fantasy leagues, so.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
That works out pretty there. Yeah, he's a motivated Patrick Mahomes.
But the old salary thing, it's always just funny, like
it's the great debate. Does this guy deserve the money
someone else paid it? It's not your cash, not.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Underpaid, but again not for the reason you think he's
gonna see every dollar that the other guys aren't. Coming
up next, not one, but two big basketball games that
break down from today, Jason and Mike, this is Fox
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