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August 2, 2024 41 mins

On tonight's edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the hosts start the hour by discussing the NFL Hall of Fame Game between the Chicago Bears vs. Houston Texans. Next, the guys react to the news that Angels Star Mike Trout is out for the remainder of the season due to a meniscus tear in his surgically repaired left knee. Finally, Jason and Mike look at the injuries coming out of the NFL with Justin Herbert expected to be out for a couple weeks with an injury in his right foot. Tune in to Hour 1 for all this and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:50):
should be. And well, we need to say this now
because I don't know if this is going to be true.
In five minutes ninety seconds, we are watching an NFL
game on television. Right now, Mike and I are on
the air, and the Bears are winning.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I don't gratest Thursday of all time. I'm the happiest days.
I'm just gonna channel you. Oh, it's the most glorious
off Thursdays. It's everything we wanted. The sun is shining,
the birds are singing, I've got a full cup of coffee,
and it's a beautiful Thursday night, and the White Sox
didn't play, so all of my dreams came true today.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I mean, just look at where you're at, though, because
your your biggest dream is as one of your teams
didn't play and your other team is winning a game
that doesn't count. No, that's it. You know what. The
long road begins with the first step. That's twenty twenty
four in a nutshell for you, buddy, that's tough. Well,
but I'm gonna go positive. This is where I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm gonna take your slings and arrows and I'm gonna
smile and say life is good because everybody finally got
it right. And I'll go after Jason Golden next time.
I talked to him, going what the hell took you
guys so long? But Steve McMichael's gonna be a Hall
of Fame, right, he's going in this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
We're gonna talk to Jason cole an hour and a half.
You can have you have it ninety minutes. Get to
get ready.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
No, no, I've been lathering up all day. We will
celebrate belatedly his birthday, which was earlier in the week.
I need we have to add another sandwich or something
to that. And Devin Hester is watching the abomination of
what was once a great play in football as he
goes into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
End.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm talking about the kickoff and whatever it's become.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, here we say player safety, buddy, that's I'll be
that guy.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'll die on that deal right now for what I'm watching.
I don't know that you want to. I don't want
to want to say it just like that. I don't
want to be the guy I hate players saying but
that's the headline that you want to be get some
run that he goes extra commas on the paycheck goes viral. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know if you can come

(02:52):
out against a lot of things and and and and
you will find some people who are going to back
your point. But man, I don't know if you can
come out with I'm against player safety and find out
anybody to say I got his back. I got to
want player safety either.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I don't think yes, go, I don't like this new
kickoff I mean, plenty of people are gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
So if I go bold and say, you know what.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Screw your analytics on players safety, give me my whole
kick Richard Back, I might be cutting against the grain
and get some people fired up.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
How about that. That's what we're sitting on right now.
We're gonna get into that right now, midway through the
third quarter, first NFL game in the season. We made it,
all right, we made it. We're back. We're here. The
NFL season's here. Bears lead the Texans twenty one seventeen,
and I want to say I'm happy because we have
had a I gotta say this because there is all
the starters don't play. The starters don't play. I understand

(03:44):
we have had a pretty good s'morgus board of second
tier players that we've gotten to watch in this game, right,
like Davis Mills and Case Keenan and Brett Rippin, Tyson
Bage and Khalil Herbert, Rashawn Johnson and JJ Taylor and
Cam Akers, all of these plays have played. I feel
fortunate though we saw the second tier players play. That's

(04:04):
really cool.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
No, But like as we're watching it right, they're all
guys who've had some experience. Normally we see a bunch
of rookies or guys who've barely had a little bit
of a cup of coffee in terms of snaps to
where there's any level of cohesion and and but here
are guys that have been around the NFL a little bit.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
In all the quarterbacks that.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
You mentioned, Colin Johnson, the guy having the game that's
on the radar. Unfortunately, he'll be the seventh option at
best unless or until a number of guys get hurt
in that loaded receiving core for the Bears. But it's
been a clean game. I think there were two accepted
penalties in the first half. You've seen some pretty good

(04:47):
runs overall, seventeen of twenty two Mills and Keenum for
Houston on the other side, fifteen of twenty for the Bears.
So clean, operationally efficient football, and the clock just keeps rolling,
very fast moving game. So if you wanted, you know,
your Hall of Fame game experience to be get them on,
get them over, get him in, you've gotten it. There's

(05:09):
not been a lot of delays in slowing down a play.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
No, and look, and these are all guys who at
one time or another were supposed to be pretty good.
I mean I feel for you know, JJ Taylor was
supposed to be good. Khalil Herbert was supposed to be good.
Davis Mills had a half season of actually being good, right,
I mean, Case Keenan had the Minneapolis miracle. Like, I
feel fortunate we're getting to see these guys. This is like, Okay,

(05:35):
you're not giving me starters, but you give me guys
that have been in the league for a while. It's
fun to watch and can almost pass for an NFL game,
like maybe midway through the season after guys get hurt
and we see backups playing a little bit, that's kind
of what it looks like. But I think this is
great if you're ripping and your Davis Mills, and obviously
you've got a second year starter in Houston, the rookie

(05:55):
they just talked to Caleb Williams on the sideline in Chicago.
These are two.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Guys that are either going to play very important minutes
for two teams that everybody's you know, falling in love with,
or they're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Huge trade chips.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Hey come again, right, because Page it's the backup in Chicago,
But have ripped, you know, eleven of fifteen won sixty
six and three. Again, hang a star on it if
you want, but you can only go by what you've seen.
Teams are going to get desperate. Sixty some odd quarterbacks
have played back to back years, so opportunity may knock
for both of these guys.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Uh So, while we're getting to see backups that you
heard of play, hey, you know, just be if you've
seen backups that you heard of play, it's a win.
The new NFL kickoff rule has been on display, and
when this was thrown out in the off season, has
yet another way to try to save the NFL kickoff. Okay,
you know, we're going to start the attackers from down

(06:53):
the field a little bit more. They can't start running
until the ball goes over their head and they want
to touch Yeah, yeah, they on to cut back on
the high speed collisions, but want to keep it a play.
I'm like, okay, because i can see they're being broken
plays and going for touchdowns almost looking like a pick six.
All right, I can see. I'm open to that, and
it may wind up being that. But so far, we've

(07:15):
seen returns that go out to about the twenty five
yard line. We've seen return. We've seen the ball kicked
all the way into the end zone, the team starting
at the thirty. When I look at this, and I
knew I wanted to reserve judgment until I actually saw it,
because I knew it's one of those things. Once I
see it, I know I'm gonna react. I look at
this and I go, this looks terrible. It just it
looks it looks gimmicky and XFL esque. The minute I

(07:40):
saw the players, you know, all the way down the field,
down in their stands, and I'm saying, this looks awful.
This is not the NFL. This looks just absolutely hey,
we're gonna gonna throw stuff at the wall to see
what sticks. Like we really need viewers, like we're a
spring football league. So I mean, it just it just
looks so gimmicky, and I'm like, this is not the NFL. Man.

(08:01):
This is like like somethings that go, Okay, I get
this change, this rule change, and some people are happy
about it, some people aren't. But when you look at this,
I go, it just right away, it hit me and
I said, yeah, no, this looks awful. I mean, maybe
it changed my mind. I get to look at it,
this is the first time you get to see it,
and you know, we'll see it over the course of
the summer, in the season obviously, and like I said,
maybe things change, But right now it looks gimmicky and

(08:24):
it looks to xflsque and I don't know that that's
going to change for a long time.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, to the gimmickyness of it, it becomes the all right,
I want to see who truly innovates and finds the
wrinkle and the uh, the problems right where the rip
is in these new formations, because otherwise what you're seeing
is an engagement pretty much like a Hey, it's first

(08:48):
and ten and we're doing a half back dive into
the line, right, that's kind of it. It's a run play,
all right, here they go, and maybe you're gonna find,
you know, the wrinkle that gets a player to the edge.
And the hope was that it would increase scoring and
some big play and big opportunities. As it stands, I
think statistically we're going to see the bulk of returns.

(09:09):
You're going to start between the twenty five and thirty, right,
that's it. It's gonna be a couple of yards gain
and falling into the line. But you know, I'll reserve
full judgment on it as a guy who who love
the other play.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And I get it.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
You have the statistics and you're trying to figure out
how to improve players' safety. Obviously all tongue in cheek
to start things. But you know, when we get down
to it, if this eliminates the play as a viable
option for much of anything, which I think that's where
it's going to end up. After maybe someone finds a
competitive advantage for a week or two, and there's always

(09:47):
going to be a broken play that gets thrown in
the mix. I get that, But overall it's gonna be well,
let's just start at the twenty five and just be
done with it. Well here's I think that's where we're
trending to.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
And I am not a save the kickoff guy, right,
I'm not a save the kickoff guy. I get that.
For a long time, this has been a play in
the NFL that has been used, and over the course
of the last fifteen years, it's become a play that
has been synonymous with danger, and they've tried to find
many different ways to make it happen. Right, we're gonna

(10:23):
we're gonna make a rule where we can kick off
from here. Then we're gonna move the kickoff now. Now we're
gonna kick it through the end zone. Now we're gonna
penalize you if you do there. And they've tried so
many ways to make it work. And just like anything else,
just because something's been around forever doesn't mean it always
has to stay. I get that you're taking a special
team's play away, but you're not taking jobs away from

(10:45):
anybody in the NFL. If you don't have the kickoff, right,
you still have the same players that are gonna play
on punt returns, punt teams, kickoff a field goal block,
you're gonna see a team's extra point block. You're gonna
have your special team as a play on those plays. Right.
So it's going to happen, and you still have the
possibility of an onside kick if you want to. If
you want to choose to onside kick, you just have

(11:06):
to tell everybody we need to onside kick. So if
we get that's a whole other extension of sid But
if we get if we get to the point where
we abolish the kickoff and everybody starts from the twenty
or twenty five yard line. I think we'll move on
pretty easy. I don't think it's going to be said, oh,
I missed the kickoff. We've had the last ten years
to watch kickoffs go into the back of the end zone.
Everybody starts, uh, you know, from the twenty five yard

(11:28):
line anyway, So it doesn't it doesn't really matter. I
don't think you're you're you're ruining the fabric of the
game if suddenly the kickoff goes away. You've tried a lot.
You can't say the NFL hasn't tried to make the
kickoff a play that Hey, we want it to be safe,
but we also wanted to be a play that that
people watch. And you've tried many different ways, and at
some point you have to just give up the ghost

(11:49):
and say, you know what, it's we can't do anymore
with this. It's it just has to go and we'll
move on. It's like me when I have one of
my favorite shirts that just gets too much wear and
tear and too many and it's ear and it's here,
and my wife will say, just give up the ghost
on it, just give it. It's done. You can't do
anything with it. Just get just get it had a
How long have you had that shirt? I know six years.

(12:11):
I love this shirt. Just get rid of it. Just
let it go. It's not there anymore. You got the
under arms ripped. You tried to sew it a couple
of times. You can't get that stain out of the back.
It looks awful. Yeah, but I love the shirt. It
fits me so good. It's so suck. Just just move on.
You've done enough. And I feel like that's the NFL.
The NFL has done enough with the kickoff. And if
this thing doesn't evolve as the season goes on, and

(12:33):
they say, hey, we're just gonna have the kickoffs. You're
gonna start at the twenty five yard line or the
twenty yard line, and if you want to on side kick,
you can on sidekick, right if you want to do it,
and you could have the rule and everybody knows you're
gonna onside kick. So okay, what are you doing at
the end of the games when you're on side kick?
People know you want onside kick. If you're down by
a score in the final minute, the other team knows

(12:53):
you're on sidekicking, all right, so they know it's happening.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's like the old argument of how smart and tactical
National League.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Managers were for all those years.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
No, it's the blackjack card you buy for ninety nine
cents and you can sit at the table. Oh, when
am I supposed to do a double switch? Let me
look at what the card says, pull out right there?
How many lenches? What do I need to do it? Okay,
let's go here. I mean it's it comes down to
your you're not changing the sanctity of the game. The

(13:26):
on side kick that I have to tell you, I've
got to be down. The element of surprise is gone.
I get it again. Going into safety and those kind
of things, how do you how do you come back
with the strongest argument when you're talking about player safety
as long as you're consistent when it comes to contracts,
healthcare and all those other things. Oh wait, did I

(13:48):
did I go outside the lines? That I color.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Outside the lines for the NFL? There? How dare I?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
But everything comes to an end, right this is now
as we look at the kickoffs, and every year it's
the new evaluation, a new committee.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
All of this.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It's like All Star Games for the NBA, for the NHL,
et cetera. How do we keep them alive? Let's do
United States against the World, Let's do pick your teams.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
How do we keep this lions out of a hat?
How do we keep this live until I can retire?
And when if that ends? It's not on me going
oh dude, come on, man, you oversaw the end of
the kickoff. You oversaw the end of the All Star Game.
You're the commissioner. How do we keep this? Going to
lock and retire and say, hey, my legacy is intact. Yeah,
I don't know what you want. Hey, it was that
guy's fault. Man, that guy's fault. Rid of the NBA

(14:34):
All Star Game, not me.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Not what I steal from survivor the Amazing Race or
the peripheral games of the Olympics. You know, like a
guy coming in from Turkey, straight off the street, no
special equipment and being dead red center on his shooting,
you know, all of those things. How do I bring
that to make the kickoff still a viable part of
the game.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's where we're at.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
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Simpsons episode where they make Funzo and spitballing with a
bunch of kids.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
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(15:28):
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Speaker 1 (17:14):
Fox Sports Radio the Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Due to inclement weather in the Canton,
Ohio area, the NFL Hall of Fame Game Pro Football
Hall of Fame Game has been suspended currently as Devin
Hester is in the middle of a nine minute interview
on the sideline right now as we wait for resumption
of this game with three minutes and thirty seconds to

(17:34):
go in the third.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Quarter, Let's go all the way back to his collegiate
days and really stretch this thing out.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Devin, let me take it back. You came out of
the womb. At what point did you really did you
grab your first football? You know? Tell me, tell me.
Let's go all the way back to the very beginning.
What did you eat when you were a kid?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Like, what's the first time you broke through the first
line of defense and found pay dirt?

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Let's play playground.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Escaping Mom, Dad, ad aunties, whoever?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
In the grocery store.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I mean, when did you know you had that vision
to where you could find daylight?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Stretch? Stretch? Okay, hey, Devin, hey, will you play heads
up with me? All right? Great? Thanks, here we go. Okay,
let's do let's say hang on Harry Potter star Wars. Oh,
around the house, around the house. Ready, here we go,
let's go. Let's play heads up together? Oh could you
see the screen? Okay, so you can play a long
and ome. Here we go. Here's my interview with Devin Ester.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
So I think that's a new fixture that we need
to add for our show going.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Forward, playing heads up on our show.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Some kind of heads up, you know, and the clues
just get completely absurd.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I think the audience would love it. And this is
the worst Chicago White Sox right, Okay, next, i'd bear you.
Did I say anything incorrect? Did I say anything in direct?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Come up with positive content for the show where we
could all have a laugh and see where the deep
recesses of our mind unlock pop culture references and maybe
some childhood trauma that you never knew was there. And
instead you go and torment me on the White Sox
and their level of an aptitude here in twenty twenty four, this.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Is from a guy. It's football season now, Baddy. This
from a guy ball season ten minutes ago who said
I'm anti player safety. I'll be that guy. This is
just you said that ten minutes ago, and now suddenly
I'm the man of the people that ten minutes, I'll
be the guy that's anti player safety.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I said, what would be the scintillating headline that we
could put out when we're talking about kickoffs, saying no, sir,
I don't like it, kickoffs can go away, beat it.
I mean, those are all fine, fine headlines and find
one liners to discuss where we're at. And if you
break the second or third level that I think that's

(19:44):
the wrinkle. We have to figure out. How do you
rotate to make sure there's a second and third line
of defense, you know, once that guy does break through
that initial rush that we have in terms of the
line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
But that's all finding good.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
I was trying to cut through and create content for
the show because it's a headline. But if people actually
listen beyond five seconds, they realize it's a ruse.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
That's not what I'm saying at all. Yeah, because because
if you put something like that out on social media,
people are gonna absolutely, oh London, let me go deeper
into what he said. Now, good, look at what he said.
Look you see what was on social media today, all
day today, weekly defensible.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Based on what I actually said here at it.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Would be TMZ dot com, Fox Sports radio host, I'm
antiplayer safety, and it would be a picture of you
yelling from when you sold a baseball card or something
and you'd be pointing at someone and it would look awful.
That's what That's what it would be.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
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Speaker 1 (20:53):
That'll stop just long enough to hear that one line
now big injury to get to here for the next
few minutes, and look we have we have tons of
great so tons of NFL stories to get to tonight,
which is great. Yeah, but Mike Trout out for the
year now. He had his rehab cut short about a
week ago. He came out of he came out of

(21:14):
his rehab game, was going to be reassessed, and now
we find out today a tournamentiscus he is out for
the rest of the year. Props to Bill Shaken La
Times who came up with this number today. In the
last four years, Mike Trout has played a total of
forty one games in the second half of the season
in Major League Baseball twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,

(21:36):
twenty four, And in twenty twenty one he played forty games, which, oh,
we played a lot. No, that's still not a lot,
but that's the most One other year. The next year,
in twenty twenty two, he played one game. He has
not been on the field. And this is a guy
who was the best player in baseball for a long time,
and with someone who yes, hopefully Mike Trout can get
to a World Series. All the plauts went along with it.

(21:57):
But now at the point where I'm doubling down what
we said last week when this happened. When Mike Trout
comes back to the majors, he comes back as a
full time designated hitter. He has played his last inning
in the field as a major leaguer. Maybe when he retires,
if he wants to go out and play one, fine, Hey,
Trout's gonna go out and play center field the last
inning because he wants to do it one last time. Great,

(22:19):
but he's thirty three and he can't stay in the lineup.
Now he has missed four years of the prime years
of his career. The Angels who are paying a lot
of them, who are paying more money to guys to
not play the last decade than to have the guys
who are play. He needs to stay in the lineup.
They need to keep him in. I don't know how
tough a conversation it's gonna be. It would be, but
it would be Mike. I don't know if this is

(22:40):
gonna work. A Look, if a guy gets hurt and
his body is breaking down, it breaks down. We talked
about Trout for years. Hey, he's a bigger guy, and
he's gonna start breaking down when he hits thirty, because
that's just what happens, right, It's what happened to Cam
Newton when when big guys play heavy traffic positions, your
shelf life is not as long as other players. And
Trout is someone who who was a bigger guy, and

(23:01):
the way he plays the field, he plays with reckless
abandon and he plays hard and he plays it great.
And look, there was nobody better all around the Mike Trout.
He had a good five to seven year run as
the best all around player in baseball. But now this
is like year five of not being able to stay
on the field, and I don't know if not playing
center field is going to work, because I'm not a doctor,

(23:22):
but I'll play one right now. I know for sure
if he's dhing, the possibility of him playing one hundred
and forty games is out there. It is there. When
he's played one hundred and forty games and hitting and
running the bases, that's a hell of all has to
worry about than that, and having the stress of playing
outfield all the time, especially if you're worried about your meniscus,
these lower body injuries. This is what's going to keep

(23:42):
him in the lineup. It sucks and it's awful because
being the center fielder also made him who he was.
But at this point it's like, Okay, we have to
sacrifice that to keep him in the line up. We
got to keep a guy who once was the best
player in the game in And it's not like he's
a guy that well, you know, he'll hit twenty to
twenty five home knock in seventy five runs, but boy,
he plays a great center field. He loses efficiency. No, no, no,

(24:05):
this is a thirty and one ten guy. They'll hit
three hundred as long as the bat is still there.
Mike Trout is clearly going to be able to do that. Look,
that's what shoe Hal Todd he's been doing. He's not
going to play the field anymore. He'll be a DH
the rest of his career. When he pitches, he pitches.
When he doesn't, he's going to be the designated hitter.
So it's it's not a bad thing. It sucks, but
when he comes back, that's what he has to And

(24:25):
if he does that, if he comes back in his DH,
I guarantee you his games played will go way up.
He'll play in all He'll play in most games of
the season. He'll maybe one hundred and thirty one hundred
and forty games to want to rest him a little bit,
but you're going to see the end of his career
be at least where he spends the last five years
on the field and hitting, which is a great trade
off for the Angels to make and for baseball fans.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, I think this is where you know, I become
the man of the people again and we espouse.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Your anti Mike Tropp players say I want Mike Trout
to play, keep playing center field, run into the wall,
run and slide on every play. I'm anti player safety
and I.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Am complete player safety in the present preservation of national
landmarks such as Mike Trout.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Okay, so anti player safety a few minutes ago for
guys running down the field on kickoff. Ten minutes later,
I am pro player safety for Mike Draft.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
No, it was again the hot takery. I'm not liking
that you can't call rule, but here you should completely
be a politician. Wait wait, wait, oh, I said that
it's not going my way. I'm gonna go the other way. Now,
people will forget. People will forget that. I'd say anybody
that it was actually listening to what I had to
say and has a couple of working brain cells doesn't

(25:40):
understood exactly what I was saying.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I want to just be mad at Meay, take your.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Anger out on me, leave your family alone, Be good
to your coworkers, kind to your server at a restaurant,
the person helping you on a flight, or if you're I'm.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Anti flight attendant, I'm Mike Harmon, I'm anti server. I'm
Mike Martin. Seven twelve pm. Seven twelve pm tonight, I'm
antiplayer safety in football. Seven thirty one pm. I'm pro
Mike Trout safety.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Like the stats bear it out for a man who
was once one of the greats. And this is always
a reminder for anything in your life. Chairshit, this life
changes on a dime. This was a guy that was
putting up one of the careers. We were watching and
marveling year after year with all the greats. And here

(26:33):
he is after five years. Here he is after six
years against all of the guys we revere as the
game's best. And then the last four years he's played
an average of sixty six and a half games. What
is it, a total of forty one games after the
All Star break in those four games, four years combined.
Talking baseball, right, this is out of John Boy Media.

(26:53):
In the games that he has played in these last
four years, nine fifty one ops with seventy six home runs,
which gives you forty six home runs per one hundred
and sixty two games played. If you want to do
that math and look the Angels. For all the derision
that we get after Ardi moreno about and some decisions made,
they took their shot right, They won the bidding, they

(27:15):
brought Otani over from Japan, they had those years. Did
they pay money terribly towards Anthony Rendon? Yes, he's saying
he wants to be on the field as soon as
he as he's eligible. Yeah, we'll wait and see whether
that happens. But in theory, you put a lot of
money on the field. You had, you bought the contract
right the ten years you had Albert Pooles. You did

(27:37):
everything you could to push in. Pitching staff always stunk,
but you pushed all in on the hitting side to
try to be relevant and try to make some waves.
And unfortunately you're at a point where this guy's body
just betrays him time and time again active on the
base paths. So we talked about it for a long time,
the crashing into walls, diving for balls, all of those

(27:59):
things that made him such a great player and an
enigma because what we knew.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
What do we know about the guy?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
He's an Eagles fan, uh and he and he likes
weather like he should have had a cameo uh in twisters,
all of that stuff beyond beyond that.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
In his Angel uniform tell it if you feel it, well,
then then okay. But the line is supposed to be
chase it. But if Mike Trout says, if you feel it,
then go see the doctor God, because your feelings that
you wanted to get you looked at, Trouty. If you
feel it, goes to the doctor. You're feeling something in
the knee, off the first step, go back to the day.
If you feel it, I'll get checked out by the doctor.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
And that's a good that's good advice. I mean that
would actually be a PSA for everybody.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Always is, always is. It's good trout But if you
feel it, got the cowboy hat, the white T shirt
like Lenn Powell's got odding everybody else.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I still want to know who he stole that cowboy
hat from on set that day to decide to complete
it the look. But the fact of the matter is,
you know, enjoy him when he's on the field. Likewise
all these other other times, you know, we we talk
about players, right, I'd bring up the the Bengals fans
leaving the loss at the super Bowl and oh it's
a bit brave New world and hear the Bengals, Wow,

(29:08):
what a run whatever, and we'll be back.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
You know this is good. No, you don't always get back,
so celebrate the hell out of it. Wendy can exit
out about a Fresca exit swollen dome, the Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Carmon lock when you
back over, Uh, well, I'm waiting for you to change.
In ten minutes, I'm waiting for you to change back
to Hey, I'm in the middle some player safety, I'm
good for some I'm not like that's right.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
I oh no, I'm all about playing in the middle.
Abandon You're playing one life, one career, get after it.
But at some point you know your your body's gonna
keep you out of the lineup.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
You gotta at least be able to swing a bat.
So that's where and hopefully it's not a difficult conversation.
And after four years of this, this is not one year,
but this is right, this is four years of this
happening now. And it's like you've lost your eight years
twenty nine through thirty three or basically nothing, right. I mean,
you've lost so much off of your career because because
of this. And it's not your fall, it's how you

(30:03):
look the cancer. But now it's okay, you're thirty three,
you still in theory, have another really good five years left.
Because of the way he waited, you know, his talent,
the way he hits the ball, so let's take advantage
of that. Let let's have that go on for the
next five years. And it won't be if he comes
back as a d h only and he and he
goes thirty and one hundred and he hits two eighty. Well,

(30:25):
you know what, hey man, You'll deal with everything else.
You'll deal with somebody else. Please got production out of him.
You can go back and put Rick Miller in center
field if you want to. I mean, you could do that.
That's a that's a deep pull, Rick Miller. That's a
deep point. The other Angels of Yestery. You want to
start it? No, dude, dude, I hit you with Rick Miller.
That's a good one, man, Rick. It's kind of a

(30:47):
walk off right there. Uh so we will walk off
right now and have special delivery Steve Disager, who does
not like the Eagles, but somehow like some form of
weather because he lives in Los Angeles. He has what's
trending right now in the wide world.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Because I like things that are different. It's fun to
watch when oh that's what it is fun to watch
it on the TV. Chicago Bears were actually leading the
NFL's exhibition opening.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Actually twenty one seventeen.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Well, were they actually leading most of the night until
recently is.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
A pejorative terms actually leading, I'm saying news wise, they
were losing for most of the night, and then right
before the rains come they were actually leading twenty one
seventeen over the Texans, and now late their quarter players
have been sent away from the field, fans instructed to
leave their seats to seek shelter with the storm.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
That has arrived. Who knows if this game will resume.
I will say I remember back in the eighties when
the Chargers and Packers were in the Hall of Fame
game in Canton due to a severe storm. They just
called the game entirely in the fourth quarter, and I
don't believe there was a score at all. I think
that was eight zero zero final.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
So we've come a long waist because right now, you know,
ESPN's doing Sports Center with the Doppler radar behind them,
so like you can it's instead of the logos of
the teams, it's the Doppler rinner, so you can see
where the storms were. Okay, the storm heading towards Ken
is it going away? What do we have? Actually? Bad twisters?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Wasn't coming out this week they could get Glenn Powell
live from wherever the hell he's standards.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Still doesn't give me confidence they're gonna absolutely resume this
thing tonight. But okay, for now, the Bears are ahead
twenty one to seventeen in the third quarter. In the
game is quote suspended. As for the Olympic news, Simone
Biles won the all around gold in Paris. She was
in third place halfway through, but finished strongly on the
beam and the floor exercise. Katie Ledecki won her thirteenth

(32:31):
career medal, a silver in the four by two hundred relay. Today,
Australia took the gold. US women's basketball defeated Belgium eighty
seven to seventy four. Titans wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins will
miss about four weeks with a knee injury. In baseball,
the Cubs have tied up the Cardinals four to four.
It's bottom of the ninth, Rockies tied two to two
at the Angels, top of the fifth. And Yes, Mike

(32:52):
Trout is out for the year after another meniscus tear.
He'll have a second knee surgery this year.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve ol The Jason Smith's
show with my best friend Mike Carmen. I mean, I'm
expecting Jim Cantore to show up like Bine, going, Yeah,
here's what's going on right now. Right now, out of
the winds, out of the west, right out of the way,
they're coming out of Columbus. They're gonna get up here
towards Maslyin and then you're gonna see it sort of
just kind of dissipate out over the lake here and

(33:17):
you're gonna kind of come back up towards Cleveland. But
then it's gonna figure out and then we'll be able
to have football at some point. These I'm just naming
all the cities I know off the top of my ead.
I don't know if they're close to each other or not.
I didn't say Cincinnati. I went with all the other ones.
Oh that's good. I mean Cincinnati. I mean it's just
kind of a given there. Look, Cincinnati is kind of
like Kentucky. I mean it's kind of like, you know,

(33:38):
you're right on the border there Kentucky. So it's dad.
So what Houston was a one.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
And a half point favor and the over under actually
did get up into the low thirties, So I mean
we have hit the over there. But now it comes
the big debate if they don't resume. I mean, which casinos,
which books are gonna pay out in the spirit of
goodwill for this season opener.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
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Speaker 2 (35:12):
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Speaker 1 (35:20):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
live the tirack dot Com studios. Still in a delay
the Pro Football Hall of Fame game. We'll let you
know if they resume or if they cancel it and
people will try to go collect their bets and say
I had the Bears, I win, but Bears. Big news
in the NFL today, we had a couple of big

(35:42):
injuries to break down over the course of the next
few minutes. In the first really hit us in a
shocking fashion day because it really just came out of nowhere,
justin Herbert Charger, star quarterback, is going to be out
at least the next few weeks with planner fascia in
his foot. He was diagnosed after yesterday. It's going to
be in a walking boot for the next couple of

(36:03):
weeks and then a gradual return to playing status, and
the team expects and hopes that he will be able
to play for Week one of the regular season. So
immediately I'm nervous, going, oh, now, you expect me to
be ready for the start of season. Anytime I hear
the phrase we expect them to be ready for the
start of the season, I go, oh, man, that means

(36:23):
they might not be or we expect them to be
back before the end of the season. Yep, no, we've
seen the last of them. Like that's one of those
trigger phrases where I go, yeah, this is not nearly
what it should be. You have an entire month that
Herbert's not going to be able to get in with
the new offense, with his new teammates. Who knows what
a slow return to practice is. Maybe he starts throwing,

(36:45):
you know, a week after he gets back who knows,
and but that's been delayed. The good news is he's
had OTAs to get used to stuff. With the NFL
being more year round, they have that. But this is
where he's got to grab the reins of a new offense.
And all of a sudden, the Chargers are saying, and hey,
we're thinking playoffs is are ceiling this year in ten wins.
And now that's in question because the first couple of

(37:06):
games they play are really manageable games. But they're not
manageable games without Justin Herbert. That's going to be a
tough sled if he's out for the beginning of the season.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Easton stick Max Duggan sitting in the second and third spots, respectively.
You've got a reconstituted weaponry in your receiving cores, new
running backs coming over from Balti.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Where that's fine.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
The two step is, okay, you've bolstered the offensive line
by adding Joe alt So in theory, keeping him upright
was not going to be the problem. But now we're
talking about an injury. As you say, as soon as
we start saying that we expect to, we hope to,
et cetera, means you really don't have a firm grasp
of how quickly this injury is going to heal and

(37:51):
how quickly he'll be able to respond to where he
can be on the field, because we've certainly seen guys
play through myriad issues in the pass. But for Herbert,
you backed up the brinstruck. You brought in, Jim Harbaugh,
the idea that you were going to have this balanced
attack and really unleash Herbert in a whole different way

(38:13):
right where this offense becomes much more balanced and where
he can take his shots. And now we lose some
of the mobility because that's going to be compromised for
the year, right, I think we can stipulate to that
being able to slide in the pocket by time. Uh So, Yeah,
very concerning because the expectation, certainly if you drive the

(38:33):
freeways here Smith, right, it's injury attorneys and Jim Harbaugh
staring at you and compelling you to buy tickets right now,
Like I almost feel like the fingers way, you know
what you're.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Gonna at or whatever whatever lawyer you know you need
to call for whatever personal injury. It's Jim Harbor and
personal injury lawyers.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Lawyer Wine Horrbaugh lawyer two Harba Floor three.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Harbor was now staring at you.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
It's like, I swear he's now if the eyes are moving,
hey fix on me?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Like, did go what if Harball was the lawyer? Would
you call Harbaugh to be your lawyer? But this goes
back to you.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, he'd confused the jury though I don't think follow him.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
This is a big year for Justin Herbert, because I've
said this in the last couple of months. I would
not be surprised if Justin Herbert is traded in the offseason.
Harball has come in, He's installing a new offense. Did
not go out and get weapons for him at wide receiver.
He wants to run the football a ton. Justin Herbert's
your best player. There's nobody else on the team that

(39:38):
scares you. Nobody else that scares you. But this is
the offense that Justin that Jim Harbaugh wants to run.
You've not gotten once that the hole that Hey, Harball
loves Herbert, Herbert loves Harball. You've got weird statements coming
out of both of them football players in the last
week when they were when Harbaugh does his whole oh
first day of camp is like being born, and hey,

(39:59):
what do you think about that? Herbert? And Herbert says, well,
you know, I just I'll leave the analogies to coach.
I'm worried about throwing the football. Okay, you won were
that's justin Herbert though, Yeah, but no, but you wonder
what what kind of relationship do they have. He's he's
looked like he's come in and he wants to diminish
Herbert's responsibility. And quite honestly, the guy is on a
three year decline. All right, he's on a three He

(40:21):
looked like he was gonna be a super duperstar in
twenty twenty one. But everything else is down the last
three years. His touchdowns are down, his yards are down,
his yards per attempt is down, his rating is down.
If you get if this isn't a season where he
grasps control of the offense and leads them, what's gonna happen.
Harbor's gonna want his own quarterback in there. He's gonna
want his own guy in there. And Herbert makes a

(40:42):
lot of money, and he would be more valuable to
somebody else in a trade. Oh, we'd love to put
Herbert and Naur offense, We'll throw the football up and
down the field. You want to do something different. And
suddenly Harbaugh gets his quarterback, They're out from under the
Herbert contract, they get more draft picks, and they build
the team. I'm telling you this is a key season
for Herbert, and if he's traded in the spring, I'm
not going to be surprised. Look at you, Look.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
At you now. You're just trying to enrage and engage.
I mean, that's worse than my I hate player safety
throwaway line from forty minutes ago, to which, as you saw,
my opinion evolved in twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Exit out about Afresca exit swollen do? I mean? Look,
it's you can see, I'm just reading how things have
been going and what the Chargers are planning and how
they want to run that offense. That's not featuring the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
You're trying to create division at How about Afresca exit out?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
About a Fresca exit swollen dome? Coming up next? The
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