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never fails, Mike. This is the I mean like now.
It happens almost every year. I always hit the point
when I realize, Okay, I am really ready for football, right,
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like it is. It's always one thing off no, no, no, no,
it's always no. I really needed to see that kick
last kickoff that got you really exciting. Now look how
great that kickoff was. Football this we're always in a
we're always in a mode of Hey, it's always football season,
always fun stuff to talk about, always great topics, and
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and but there gets to be a moot where where
personally I'm just like, okay, you know what, I've had
enough of everything else over the course of the year,
and now I'm really ready for football, Like I really
am ready now. And it's it's the same thing that
happens every year. I have some crazy ass dream that
I have no reason to have that involves football, and
(02:09):
I realize, Okay, I'm really ready for football. I am
usually at every single mentioned your every single year because
they usually get kind of weird.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
This is the back of the quarterbacks. Deposed quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh well, that was the dream last year. Was that that?
That My last ye dream remember was the that uh
Zach Wilson. I was supposed to help him through some
promotion he had at a restaurant where the Jets wanted
me to keep an eye on him. He was going
to sign autographs and give a speech like open a restaurant,
and I had to take him there, and I was
telling about certain things, say this, don't say this, say
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this about Aaron Rodgers. Don't say this about Aaron Rodgers.
Like that was my dream. I remember that dream last year.
I'm like, I remember I was so much taller than
Zach Wilson, which I'm always taller than people in my dreams,
which I kind of I don't know, I don't that's
a think or not, but I always feel like I'm
taller than people.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So to say, though, given what Kevin Durant did a
couple of weeks ago, he let the cat out of
the bag that he was, you know, only six ' nine,
or at least that's what he was contending, So all
of a sudden you had to reframe all of those
NBA greats because look, I kept saying he was. Look
at how smooth he is for a seven foot guy.
Look at what he can do as a seventh foot guy.
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If he's six or nine. I don't care because I've
seen it before. So I really changed my whole view
of the NBA. But it goes to your point about
suddenly you may be a giant. You know, Kevin Durantz
not seven to six?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Really? Yeah, look at me. He looks a little bit
shorter than that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You know, he stands next to Wemby and he's actually
shorter than Womby. But how could be short of the
Wenby if he's seven six?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh he's not. He's six ' nine. Oh. Now I
get it now.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So this is the dream I had last night, and
I woke up today and I don't know why, right,
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It wasn't a jet's dream. Was it was? I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But my wife and my wife and I are out
at a restaurant and all of a sudden, Bill Belichier
it comes over and asks if he can join us,
and I say sure, and I say sure, and he
sits down and we order food and he starts telling
all these stories about when he was coaching in the
NFL and He's laughing hysterically while he's telling these stories,
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and he's like, and this one time, and he's rolling
spaghetti on his fork and he's eating.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
He's telling these.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Stories and he just doesn't stop, and he keeps telling
these stories. And I can't remember what any of them are,
of course, but I remember laughing. He's laughing, and I
remember my wife is looking at me, going, what is
happening here? I go just let him keep talking. These
stories are great. I could tell all these stories on
the show. This is FanTac I gotta start writing them down.
And like, I had my phone out and I was like,
oh my god, Coach, can I tell this Stuy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,
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let's get another bottle of wine here, let's get to
the bad He goes, don't worry, I'm paying. I'm paying,
and we start ordering and then all of a sudden,
the servers come over to the table and they're talking
to us, and they're in Belichick's telling stories and this
is the entire tree. And then I wake up and
I realize I have to go to the bathroom really bad.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I know, oh my god, I gotta go to the baker.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And I got up and I'm saying, what was that
all about? And then I get back and I'm trying
to remember some of the stories and I couldn't. And
it was like, you know, at six o'clock in the
morning at this point, But that's what I realized.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Okay, I'm ready for football.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I'm having a dream about Belichick joining me at dinner
wanting to tell stories.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I am ready for football.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, so she's gonna be telling a lot of stories.
He's now hired by a fantasy group. He's got like
three other jobs. He's gonna be telling stories in yarns.
So I mean, this is probably not the only time
you're gonna have this dream this season, with the amount
you're gonna hear Belichick talk and see his smiling face,
like he's smiling, he's living life with his mid twenties girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean, life is good. Who wouldn't want to be
Bill Belichick? Huh? And he's in my dream And I'm like,
you know, and didn't ever dream.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I wasn't hanging out with Aaron Rodgers, was hanging out
with Joe Namath, wasn't I no, no, no, it was
Belichick shows up at my table and he wasn't And
I remember he kept eating so much pasta, which I
love fasta. He just kept rolling spaghetti on his fork
and talking and eating and talking and eating. I'm going
I can't keep up with this story. And again, I
wish I could remember who he told stories. Maybe he
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didn't even maybe he was just laughing, and I thought
he was telling great stories.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I don't know. It was a dream.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But then when everybody is, everybody is coming to stand
around and stand around me, and maybe I'm sure the
setting and I'm positive this. I'm sure the setting is
because my wife and I just finished binging the third
season of The Bear, which of course is about life
in a restaurant. So I'm sure that was the background
of my dream because the last.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Year pissed Off Belichick was a guy that pissed you
off for nearly a quarter century, nearly half of your
mortal existence, and here he was, as you were frustrated
by season three of The Bear, it carried over into
your dream in the form of Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Now was he wearing a chef's coat? No? No, no,
he was in a suit or now us full suit? Yeah,
he was in a.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Dude, he was in a suit, and hey, I was
less fus undone and tie kind of up, disheveled a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I don't know that he had.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
A tie on. I don't think he had to take you. No,
it was like a jacket and a collared shirt.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It wasn't it, Yea, there was no tie. There's no
really wasn't really for him. It was kind of like, hey,
I'm out, I have to dress up because I'm a coach.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
But I'm not.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I'm not officially dressing and I have no tie on.
But I gotta be honest with you. I am less
pissed at Bill Belichick than I am at season three
of The Bear.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh my goodness, I don't know how that guy. Tell you,
how did that get? Dude?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I told you when season three, Hey, all episodes are
gonna be available on July.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Whatever I said.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I got a bad feeling about this season, and I
watch it and I wish I could have those ten
hours back because absolutely nothing happens. I don't know how
a season like that gets greenlit. I have no idea. Again,
I'm telling you, I think maybe it was in the
writer strike when they didn't have any writers. Well, we'll
just add limle A bunch of scenes together, But what
about a narrative, what about plot? Naha, We're just gonna
(07:55):
have stuff. We're gonna have flashbacks and we're gonna have
We're gonna go back in time for the thing. It
was an absolutely nothing happened. And I'm saying I love
this show the first two. I don't know that I'm
coming back for season four. I really it was so
bad and absolutely nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I was so mad.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Now again, I was mad at Belichick for a long
time because you always screwed the Jets.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
He goes on and he builds his dynasty.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
But really, you know, at that point in the Dream,
I was less mad at Belichick than.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I was at the season three of The Bear.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Now I would say this, you know my experience for
season three. I'm still I like the acting and anytime
Richie's on screen.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I mean all the acting is always great.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Like the acting's great, the actors, but you gotta have
some kind of story. Oliver Platt's fantastic, and but it
felt like they were spinning plates.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yea, to use the restaurant.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Analogy a little bit further, all right, let's spin it ahead.
We're not really moving forward. We're just kinda kind of
hang out here. Give you a couple of episodes that
are origin stories in a season three.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, I don't care about an orgin story in season three.
Come on, man, give me an order of story in
season uns.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You're gonna give me something that's really gonna be so
disruptive that it foreshadows something really evil, ominous and catastrophic.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Get the back end of the season. But you know what,
I didn't get that. How do you get that?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I got a Hey, we know you're gonna watch season
three because you have loved seasons one and two of
this quote comedy series, so we know you're gonna watch
this one because it's summer. And what else you got?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You know what? I felt like?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I felt like I used to watch Guiding, like my
wife and I were huge Guiding Life fans, and you
General Hospital guys, So okay, so you know, so you
know Luke and Laura, so you know that.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
They just want what's your name back? M s Ams
is coming back? Now?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Really that's like wow, That's like Joe Gibbs coming back
after being away from coaching for the coming back to coach.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I felt like, you know, and you can watch a
soap opera and you can watch it for a month
and nothing happens, and it's like wow, there, like there's
no But that's just the way soap opera goes, right,
nothing happens, the plot edged it so incrementally nothing goes on.
And that's kind of I felt watching The Bear. I'm like,
nothing is going on. There's absolutely nothing happening. There's no
(10:07):
forward with the story at all, and I'm like, man,
and really, and now I feel I feel much more vindicated.
I feel I am absolutely still at this point less
upset at Bill Belichick for leaving the Jets than I am.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Season three of The Bear. See, there you go. I
have your I'm ready for football things, and I'm ready now.
I know I'm ready for football. Okay, yeah, I mean
the Hall of Fame game yesterday. We enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We saw some good quarterbacking, we saw some big performances.
It ended early, which was good I think.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
For most folks. All Right, I've had I had enough.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Third singers are all in now, right yep, rains come lightning, come, yeah,
we're done. We interviewed all the Hall of famers that
can be interviewed here today yes.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Okay, good and cut. Did we ask Devin Hester what
his secret sauce was? You know?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
In returns? We make sure we got that on tape.
If so, then we're good.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The Jason SMITH'SO Mike Carbon live from the tirec dot
Com studios. So as I say this and and look,
something really interesting, I don't know how successful it's.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Going to be is going on right now in Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And I don't mean the Blake Snell no hitter that
he is pitching in the seventh inning up three?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Thought rank again after the uh not getting traded?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, no, no, you thought you thought so well, you
never know, he may pull himself out of this now hitter. Hey,
you know I can't. I can't go anymore. I still
can opt out at the end of the season and
get himself another payday. So you got that going for him.
But the Mets and the Angels right now, and I
don't know that people know this is happening. And maybe
it's because the Angels, you know, I don't know, they're
running out of money. You know, they got all the
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money on trout and randon their broadcast booth tonight does
not have a play by play guy in it. It
is a Manning cast broadcast with Bobby Valentine x met
because the Mets are playing the Angels with Bobby Valentine
and Mark Goob is a and they're just in the
booth and it looks like they're they're telling stories and
just doing you know, doing Manning type stuff. Like it's
(12:08):
the top of the second inning of the game, and uh,
you know, an Angel just got hit by a pitch
and the next thing I saw was video of Bobby
Valentine Tengo dancing Like I can't have the audio up
because that, but I mean, that's what That's what this
broadcast is. Like, I'm like, this is the Angel. Hey,
we're gonna save some money. Man, we gonna save somebody.
We're better. Hey what if we go with just have
a couple of guys just shooting the breeze like the
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Mannings dud.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
During our game?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Do we really need to play by playing guy? We're now,
we don't need that come out. We just we just
have this on. Trout's done for the season, no one's
tuning in. The Mets fans are taking over this weekend. Yeah,
let's just let's just put some analysts on and they're
gonna have guests in the booth like the rest of
the night. Like it's gonna be Bobby and Mark and friends,
you know, just coming hanging out, going out.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'll do it in the game.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Can't wait. See what kind of who are the friends?
That's some come popping by.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I don't know, I mean think about Maybe it's Bill Belichick.
Maybe he's stopping by. He's gonna tell stories. It's gonna
eat pop and tell stories.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Here's Wally Joyner, here's uh, I don't know. And it's
Carnie Lanceford hanging around in southern California.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I mean, look, I get the the broadcast where like,
and everybody wants to do different things now in broadcasting
because look, broadcasting's kind of been the same for the
last you know, sixty years or whatever it is. So
when it gets to the point of doing things creatively. Yeah,
the Manning cast, that's great because that gives you the
you know, it's the option of I can watch Peyton Manning,
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you know, I can watch Peyton Manning and Eli Manning
and all these other big NFL stars give me something
if I choose right. Most people are still watching the
other broadcast right for all the success of the Manning cast,
like a million people or why you'd think so that's
why social media scuse everything, because you'd think, like everybody
is watching the Manning casts, everybody's talking about in social media.
Meanwhile a million people are watching that broadcast and fifteen
(13:55):
million people are watching the regular broadcast. Why because they
want to know what's going on. They want to know
if someone's yelling at somebody on the sideline. They want
to know what's going on here on this official review
right to take a regular broadcast and.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
To make it that out. I'm saying, how is how
is this gonna work? Like really, that's that's gonna that's
gonna work. We just have a couple of guys. Like
what happens if if.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
When replay goes back to look at something and the
two guys are telling stories not even paying attention to
what's going on in the field, Like how is that
gonna go?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Are you gonna tell me who's warming up in the bullpen?
You gonna tell me who's coming up to pinch it?
Am I gonna get that? Or am I not gonna
get it? Because there's so many times mustache not yet.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
They got you kids in. They're saving the fake mustache.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
There's no way they're not dropping out that fake mustache
for Bobby Valentine in the first Then he come on, man,
you're smarter than that. They say that at least till
the third inning, and then he comes with a whole
bunch of different mustaches, like the regular mustache, then the
handlebar mustache. Then he's gonna have the fou manchew. Then
he's gonna have all all kinds of crazy stuff. So
that'll be like they get written that right away.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Oh I like that.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
No, I think that's uh, I think that's well put.
But yeah, I mean story time. I mean, who the
hell's watching, I mean Mets fans.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Fans.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I mean there's no one, no play by play unless
you got a you got a bet, a live bet
on you know, O Hoppy hitting a home run or something.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Then maybe I guess you're what.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Are we paying our play by play guys, Well, like
three hundred and fifty bucks a game? All right, let's
start saving on that. Okay, we got Goobas and Valentine
under contract. Yeah, just bring him in. That's fine, we're
paying them anyway. Let's no play by play guy, We'll
save that three hundred and fifty bucks. Great, what's our
net today counting everything? You mean with the money we're
paying Trout and Rendon? Yeah, okay, hang on. Before today
we were minus nine million, eight hundred thousand, five hundred
(15:41):
dollars for the day. Now we're minus nine million, eight
hundred and seventy eight thousand, nine hundred when you take
that three hundred fifty dollars away. Oh good, So we're moved.
You know, we're moving the needle. We're getting closer to zero.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
It's happening. We're getting there. Hey, hey, boss, what else
do we need to do today? Next? Call all the
insurance company, see if we can put in acclaim against
these guys for not being available to offset some of
the salary we're paying.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
This is I'm watching it going well, I don't know
how this could be. But just when a guy gets
hit and the next piece of video is Bobby Valentine
tango dancing and in some kind of event that I
have no idea what it is, I'm like, oh, yeah,
this is workingly, this is absolutely working.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
This broadcast everything you wanted it to be.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
The jay Z's guys that would have known each other
for thirty plus years though, So oh yeah, stories and
you know the inner workings of baseball.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I mean, maybe we're gonna find out crazy stories
and like like all of a sudden, Bobby Valentine's in
to go. And then I put Bobby Beanie up against wall,
the Saint Bobby Bennie a day, and I clocked him.
They hit me over the head with a bat. I
went to the hospital. I was but bleed, and I
didn't even coach a team for two weeks. There was
a look alike that came in to coach the team
and it was my brother, and nobody knew.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
We actually won more.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Games, and that's what I understand. We actually went ten
and four over that with those two week period. I
come back, we go four and ten. I don't know
what to do. This is great. So this is where
we're at right now, Happy Friday, and we're getting randomly
played Offah, hell, who come in due to this?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I mean, come on and coming up next?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Speaking of no hitter, Blake Snell is now through eight
innings with a no hitter. He has walked three, so
no perfect game, but he is through eight with a
no hitter at one hundred and eight pitches. Giants coming
about top of the ninth with a three to nothing lead,
Will Blake Snell be out there for a no hitter
in the bottom of the ninth. We have that, and
we have the big story of the day from the
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world of television Sports.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Television's got a big story.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
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Well, we'll get to that bit.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
We got a big NBA story to get to coming
up in a couple of minutes. And oh boy, we'll
let me tell you what happened in Cowboys camp coming
up in about twenty minutes. But uh, the big headline
of the night tonight, no hitter in Major League based ball.
Not one of those hey, four guys and one guy
went four innings, next guy with you. No, No, we
had an honest to goodness no hitter. Blake Snell of
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the Giants no hits the Reds through one hundred and
fourteen pitches, first time he pitched the ninth inning in
his career, first time he pitched in the ninth inning
in his career.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
And here's what the final out sounded like.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Ellie day La Cruz from the right side first matches
swaying fly ball right center, moving over Isyastremsky.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
He's there. He's done it, and Blake Snell has done it.
Snell has thrown a no hitter for the Giants tonight
in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Blake Snell makes history with a performance for the Ages
tonight here at Great American Ballpark.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
A no hitter is the Giants have won three nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Giants Radio Network on the call, and you know a
couple of big things about this. The first thing what
I was really surprised is last two batters swung at
the first pitch.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, right like that. That really surprised.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You have a guy pitching a no hitter, and I
get the philosophy of, Okay, he's gonna he's just gonna
try to throw the first pitch over for a strike
and because he wants the no hitter, and I know
that's gonna be a great pitch me to jump on,
and I understand that, but boy, you're helping him out right,
Like this is where every pitch the no hitter just
builds in the guy's mind.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
And now you're you're you're two outs away, you're one
out of way.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
It's like, okay, you want to get him a little
deep in the count and let him make a mistake
if you're jumping on the first pitch. Just a real,
just real difficult strategy for me to see that the
last two guys, Hey, we're going hacking at the first pitch,
right like that? Really, and especially day La Cruz, one
of the best players in baseball, that he goes after
the first pitch and flies out to right center field.
So that's the first thing that surprised me a little bit.
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The second thing, yeah, the second thing is this and
and here's what we have to understand, and we forget
about this too much. Blake Snell threw one hundred and
fourteen pitches tonight. He looked fine. He looked fine. That
last pitch was fine. He wasn't grabbing at his arm.
He was able to celebrate with his teammates. He hugged everybody.
His left arm is okay. It's one hundred and fourteen pitches.
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And look, Blake Snell looks to be fine. I'm sure
he's going to be fine. I'm sure everything will be fine.
It's one hundred and fourteen pitches. Guys can throw one
hundred and fourteen pitches. Guys who have no hitters going
to the eighth or ninth inning and their pitch counters
in the nineties, they don't always have to come out
Dave Roberts. They can stay in the game because they're
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pitching a no hitter. This means they're having a lot
of innings with no stress. They're not throwing twenty five
twenty eight pitches in an inning.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
No, this has been a machine like game.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You can leave those guys in one hundred and fourteen pitches,
come one hundred and fourteen pitches going, Look, Blake Snell's
going to be just fine.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I don't think you're gonna see it. All boy. They
left him in there so long, and look what happened
that ruined his career.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, okay, if you leave a guy in for one
hundred and forty, one hundred and fifty pitches, yo and
Santana like that is something. Okay, you're gonna do dabit,
but one hundred and forteen.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But yeah, guys can do that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's okay. That doesn't need to be some hard and
fast ruled at all. The phone's gonna ring from upstairs.
Take the guy out of the game. No, guys can
go a little bit over one hundred pitches and pitch
a no hitter. If a guy goes into the eighth
inning and his pitch count is in the nineties, you
should still look at it and say, this game is
out there for you as long as you have the
no hitter.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
If you if you're if you need.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
To come out, if if you give up a hit
you want, Hey, great, tell me, and I'll go to
the bull I'll have the guy ready in the bullpen. Ready,
But you're in nineties pitches. Don't worry. You're in this
game until the no hitter. We're gonna give this to
you all the way through. You can do that in baseball.
It's actually okay, Mike Carmen. Not everybody's arm falls off
when you get past one hundred pitches, doesn't happen. Yeah,
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I did not fly into the third deck, uh and
suddenly or get dislocated, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Now that doesn't mean that this isn't the high point.
And he says, I've done all I need you to
get a forty million dollars contract. I'll see y'all later.
I'm out after this. But it's the idea of the
first ball swinging just baffled me, right, And we were
reacting to it, and you know, you're keeping an eye
on the clock, trying to keep the line moving, all
of those things that are swirling when you're up at
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that type of pitch count. And I guess bound and
determined that he was going.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
To finish it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But don't you make him work a little bit. Don't
you make him you know, exert himself a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Maybe he's got that, you know, adrenaline kicked up to
a whole other level that you know, he gets a
little erratic or gives you an opportunity and makes a mistake.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
First ball swinging seems like you helped him out a
little bit, not that he needed a ton of it.
Three walks, eleven strikeouts on the night, and obviously you
didn't get any solid contact in a bunch of those
at bats either. But the other we've argued it long ago,
and it sometimes gets to missed as in my day
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and the old guy thing, and then you conjure images
of Nolan Ryan and some of these iron men of
days gone by.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But it is something to that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
At this point, we've got enough evidence that this five innings,
one hundred hard count pitch and out kind of thing
that's not protecting anybody from any injuries.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Right, I think we could probably rule that out at
this point.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
We've got enough evidence that guys are gonna break down,
and pitchers are gonna break down no matter how much
you coddle them and restrict innings and pitches. Right, there's
stressful innings, there's easy innings, there's flow, there's all of
that stuff. And to make it a universal thing that
you're gonna just take a guy out. It's like the
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blackjack card we joke about. You know, back when people.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Would call National League manager's genius for pulling off double
switches and stuff. You knew what the situations were, you'd
seen it enough, you made you made the move. Same
thing here. You can tell one of guys actually got
issues versus you know, some imaginary number that you've decided
based on an algorithm you've written up that pitcher to
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pitcher doesn't hold up.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I remember Mike Harmon when Christy Matthewson once forgot his
spikes at home and had to wear his work shoes,
and he threw three hundred and eighty six pitches in
a nineteen inning no hitter, which he lost five to four.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
It was some kind of game.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Then he came back the next day and pitched a
perfect game in ten innings, throwing one hundred and eighty
six pitches, winning two to nothing.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
He was something that Christy Mathewson nicely done. That's all.
That's all, But that's just it.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You start going back into the days of yesteryear and
I'm not, you know, trying to say, hey, guys should
be throwing twenty seven complete games a.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Year again like we did back in the day.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
You look at some of the old baseball cards and
and the numbers that you know as a kid, you know,
you're looking at the guys of the seventies and early eighties, like, wow,
they just did not believe in relief pitchers and just
said that we're just running this guy out. Nowadays, it
becomes a if a guy pitches that much like, oh,
the bullpen must have really been textes.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Right, he well enough and they had nobody else.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
They didn't make any move to the to the minor
leagues to call the guy up to steal an Ningerton. No,
they decide or maybe he did something and they were
pissed at him, so he was gonna wear it and
stay on the mound no matter what. But you know,
I'm not saying that every fifth day you've got to
just decide all right, well, you know, just go at
it h until you're the wheels truly come off. But
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we've seen so many instances, and certainly living in Los Angeles,
that's been one of the knocks on Dave Roberts for
a long time.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Conversely, we we'd watch Dusty Baker do the thing till
his guys were i think literally throwing their arms off
into the third deck back in the day with some
of those starting rotations. So different ways to work it.
But for Blake Snell, he's getting pretty chesty in his
postgame comments against the the the naysayers and the haters.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Really yeah, okay, you know what, they can't wait anymore,
you know, maybe, but you know, Patrick, let's grab some
of Blake.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Snell's post games.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
If he's postponing his Twitch session, you know, NCA twenty
five to talk about everybody and all the name says,
let's grab some of that and we'll listen to it
coming up in a bit.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Oh genius, smile on his face the whole time. But
the you know, asked and answered, you want to talk
about guys keeping receipts.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
But speaking of listening to guys for a while, do
you really believe right now? You know, right now in
the shadow coach of Team USA Olympic Basketball, am I
the shadow coach?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
What do we tell you if the shadow Man is
the greatest villain in Disney history?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So Okay, after the second game and Joel Embiid was
a DNP, which we told you Joel Embiid was going
to be the DNP.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Tatum was going to play. I told you.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
This is a story that has been completely created by
the media because there's not a lot of drama because
Team USA in men's hoops is going to win the
gold medal. It's just gonna be a little bit tougher
because every year it gets a little bit tougher. The
FOBA rules are tough to suddenly play against. The teams
are getting better, better players in the NBA playing for
their home country every year, it just gets a little tougher.
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Now when they lose, that's the story. Then it becomes
to what Until then it's what do we do? Jason
Tatum doesn't play? And suddenly it's oh my goodness, Jason
Tatum doesn't play, And what did we tell you after
that happened? Hey, this is not really that big a deal.
Steve Kerr is the right guy to be coaching this team.
There is no controversy. Jason Tatum is not said how
upset he is. I'm sure he's not happy with not playing,
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but he's not going on social media saying things he's
not liking posts about.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh Steve curt doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
Not play at Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Now he was humbling and something that he now he
now relates to the guys at the back end of
his roster better sure teachable moment.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
However, right, but whatever, whether he believes it or not,
he's he's he's doing the right thing. Joel Embiid, you
know he's not happy. You look at him on the bench.
He's like, I'm not getting off the bench.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
What the hell? Why am I even here?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
But even he hasn't said anything. Everything is fine. We've
told you everything is fine, and it's.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Just gonna be.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Let's try to make something up, some kind of controversy
when there isn't. It's impossible for Steve Kerr to to
coach a team made up of twelve of the best
players in the world, and some of them have huge
egos and they're huge superstars. Not everybody's going to be happy.
Lebron is probably not all the way happy. A D
is probably all the way happy. I'm losing time to
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Bam out of Bio. Come on, man, Well, when Bam
doesn't miss he's going to stay in the game, right.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
But Sam hates winhorse now, So I mean, you know,
you get guys getting beef all over, but.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
It's the Olympics and everybody is and everybody understands, and
everybody gets it and they put whatever they're thinking aside
because it is the Olympics. If you think I'm lying,
I told you. Steve Kerr is the right guy to
do this. He's the right guy to run this team.
He can deal with all these egos. He should have
the job anytime he wants to. Here was Steve Kerr
today talking about the the chatter all around the team
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and his lineup quote, doesn't make a whole lot of
sense for us to put our five leading scorers on
the floor from an NBA season just because those guys
don't compliment each other. Well, just coaching basketball, it's pretty
simple for us, regardless of all the noise.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And that's what it is. It's all noise, right.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
He went on to say, guys are playing different games
certain things because of their skill set, because of the matchups.
That's why Jason Tatum didn't play in game One little
bit of impetus to say, hey, you're not playing. Let's
see a better effort the rest of the way. Because
Tatum hadn't had the best games leading up to it.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I'm sure this is in return either. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Look, but I'm sure the same thing for Joel Embiid. Hey,
I've played you a lot, you haven't been great. You're
gonna sit and now we see what we get the
rest of the way. So a little bit of it
is matchup. A little bit of it is is is motivation.
This is what it means to be a coach. But
there's no contravert There's no anything bad going on with
Team USA. There's no whispers because there would be. There
would be all kinds of stuff happening if there were,
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if there were big time dissension, or Jason Tatum was
done and Joel Embiid wanted to go home, or Tyrese
Aliburton wanted to go home.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
But there's not.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's an overblown story. Steve Curson, listen, It's just a
lot of noise. And I believe it right now. Part
of it and and and and this, this is a
big part of it, is that we're here in the
United States, right and and I I really do do
think that this is something that weighs into it. It's
not just hey, I'm right about this, But if the
Olympics is in the United States, maybe it's a different story. Right,
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But these guys are in France, right, They're they're completely
off are they on social media? It's eight hours ahead,
so the time they're doing things, it's a downtime here
and vice versa. When you're not embroilered. They're not walking
down the street, people aren't walking around.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
The arena's going. Jason Data's not playing. Hey, Jason Data's
not playing.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
These guys aren't walking into arenas and fans are there
with signs because they were Olympic fans, it's just a
different vibe. They were allowed to be there and just
play basketball. All the noise is coming from here. Now,
if these games were in Madison Square Garden or at Crypto,
or they were in Dallas, or they were in Chicago,
then it's a different story because then you're in it,
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and you're in it and you're following every day at
all you're hearing is people saying this, and your friends
are texting you.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And doing all this.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But being so far away and being removed from it,
it makes it a lot easier, So it's not always
just hey, I get it. Steve Kurr is great, and
the players understand being far away is a part of
it too, But it doesn't change the fact that when
you add it all up, it is noise. We told
you it was noise. Steve Kurr is telling you it's noise,
and you don't hear any noise from there, So there
you go, the noise being the operative word the last
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few minutes.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Loud things, loud noises. Look, I mean, part of it
is very much that it's they're isolated. I mean, I
guess we could try to create some beef by saying,
all right, who goes with whom? Did the different events?
Who showed up with Steph to go see Ping Pong?
Who showed up with KD to go watch the three
on three? We can play those games till we're blue
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in the face if we really just want to shoot
our shots in the socials and try to get people
mad or get engagement, because certainly they've got a lot
of downtime. So KD has been active in a bunch
of debates which have been fun to watch, and the
other guys posting, but it's it's the type of thing
and it's great, a great piece of advice I got
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a long time ago of you can get through anything
for a couple of weeks, maybe a couple of months,
maybe a year or two, right that, you know, job's
not watch.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
In a couple of weeks, a couple of months, or
a couple of different No, that's a different note.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
But but it depends.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
It depends on what the circumstances and just talking about
it you relationship wise, a job.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Maybe you're in a rough season, to wait it out
a little bit, you know, all sorts of different scenarios
and circumstances, but just you know, all things do pass,
right the old George Harrison album from seventy one. But
just that idea that you could do anything for a
couple of weeks, may not be easy, may not like it, right,
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I know. Right now people are so giddy that the
Hall of Fame game happened last night because maybe in
their internal show meetings on sports television and radio they're
allowed to say, I'm not talking about the Olympics or
the WNBA or anything else.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Again, I didn't want to do it. You made me
do it.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Football's here, Leave me alone, right, that's part of our business.
But for a couple of weeks WNBA was the hottest
thing going and the Olympics survived, So guess what you
had to wade into some waters you didn't like talking
about our business, talking about you know, accountants. You got
three or four weeks that are gonna be absolute miserable
because everybody needs it now, but they wait until the
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last minute to file. But the rest of the year
nice and easy, pace, normal quarterly income statements coming in
from businesses.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Whatever. You move on, go job to job. Everybody out there,
you're not in your head right.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
The first couple of weeks of a new school year,
if you're a teacher or principal, are absolute madness. Changing
of classes. Kids have been running amok for the last
two to three months with no schedules, and now they
have to come and pay attention for five hours, six
hours a day. They don't want to be there, neither
of the teachers. So excuss what conflict, but eventually you
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find your way.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Same thing here. They don't have to be happy. Matter
of fact, all twelve guys, fifteen guys, they can all
hate each other, but in three weeks they'll have a
gold medal something else on the resume, and they go
back to their other jobs as NBA players.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Exit out bout of Fresca exit swelling down The Jason
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coach timmy Lesa. You want to know, tell me I'm
telling Steve Kerr what to do.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I'm telling you what to do. You never liked Steve Kerr,
so this is interesting.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Well, Steve Kerr was the other you know, hey, twenty
years ago, Bill Belichick said, I resign as HC of
the NYJ And you know, twelve years ago Steve Kert
told Phil Jackson, Yeah, I think I want the next job.
Well unless the Warriors job. Oh I'm taking that instead. Yeah,
thanks appreciate.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Think about that five million dollars a year for five years.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Coming up next, a moment we predicted in sports tonight
actually just happened. Plus we'll tell you what was said
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Speaker 2 (37:41):
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Speaker 1 (37:52):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. Yeah, I from the tiraq dot com studios.
And look, we got a big Olympic story coming your
way in a couple of minutes. But today look big
headline of the day. Kind of a light day on
the docket for the Olympics, you know, kind of the
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the bridge day to all the big action this weekend,
the end of the first week, beginning of the second week,
US men's soccer gets knocked out. They lose four to
nothing to Morocco. And it was a game that just
it got worse and worse some more time went on.
It was just one of the it just snowballed the
entire way. United States gets knocked out. So the U
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twenty three they come in, you thought maybe they could
have a big run, but now they're out of the Olympics.
So okay, But let me just say this now, because
this is what needs to happen. In the last few days,
we found out that you're Gonnaklop, who was the number
one choice to replace Greg Burholter as coach of the
men's national team, said no, not ready to come back.
Maybe in a year and doesn't want to come back
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to coach the United States. And honestly, I can't say
I blame him, because if I'm the United States, I'd
have to take as much time possible because what you
need to do is to make this job look like
a destination. Because right now, Team USA, the United States
men's national team, is a wreck.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
All right. You have players that it's tough to get
them motivated, right.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
You have roster drama with coaches and parents calling, hey,
my kid's not blaming the coach doesn't like my kid. Right,
nobody knows what results are good enough because no matter
what happened, it's all we should be better. It's the
golden age of players in the United States. And maybe
it is, but maybe it isn't. And if I'm another
coach and I'm like, hey, I want to jump, Oh
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do I really want to put my reputation on the line?
Because the United States doesn't have its house in order.
It's just been chaos. The guy they fired headed up
the search for the next coach and he named himself
the coach, So like, what is going on there?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
So? United States?
Speaker 1 (39:53):
United States Soccer right now needs to take some time
and say Okay, let's take care of stuff.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Let's get all the money in order.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Let's get our house in order, so we can be
an attractive destination to somebody, because right now, who that's
a big name is gonna come and say, oh, yeah,
I want the United States job.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah you want it if you're in a position to succeed.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
But you see all the drama that goes along with it,
and you walk into who wants who wants a piece
of that?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Right now, you're not gonna get anybody to take this job.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
It's six to me. Somebody just is desperate. So you're
gonna get the best of a bandpool of candidates. Right
You need to take time, turn it into a destination,
fix everything behind the scenes, so it's like having a
big free agent party, Like when when when people be
come free agents in the NFL and the NBA and
they come to your town and you show them a
great time, and you show them what the team is
like and what it's gonna be like if you play there,
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and this is Hey, I'm in love with this area,
and you can call your agents say.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Get me there.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I get the money figured out, that's where I want
to be. That's the United States wants to do because
right now the USMNT is not a destination.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
They got to make it one. Yeah, I think one
of the biggest things is there's needs to be a
meeting in the minds for the All right, what are
the substance of changes? Whoever you need to talk to.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You got plenty of former US men's UH players that
are more than happy to share their experiences and what
they've seen from the ground up as to what are
problems with the United States system. Some can be remedied
in a short order, some take more longer systemic changes.
But I don't know how much they embrace those conversations.
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So to your point, yeah, it becomes a guy who's
in a reclamation year, a guy who got fired from
another gig and is just eager to get back in
the game. And maybe you catch lightning in a bottle, right,
They got that false nine thing that just you know,
you don't have no idea where it's coming from.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I don't know. Maybe Nate the Great can come coach.
You get Nate to come coach and be good.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Let's let's go with all our Lasso references, but just
get false nine coach, right, Right, So that's what I said.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, fake nine, yeah, get nine.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Basically, you had this run, We're like, all right, they
did something to have in forever, it's like, and then
immediately got drummed four nil and for half you tried
to sell yourself all right, the levee's not gonna break,
the levee's not gonna break.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
And then it broke. Really, it's a time to say,
let's make this a destination. Let's fix it so we
get somebody big to come in. That's your need. Exit
out about a Fresco exit swollen dome. Coming up next,
the biggest sports lesson we all learn this week.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
That's next Fox