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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon talk with Ric Bucher as they ask him about what is happening with Team USA basketball.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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all by the way, we do have Rick Buker coming
up into twenty minutes, Rick Catafarm. Right, it has been solved.

(01:02):
We're talking Olympic hoops with Rick in twenty minutes. So
I told you today I filled in on AM five
to seventy with Jonas Knox day.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We talked to Dodgers all kinds of stuff, and you
came up.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
A lot because we were talking about the opening, you know,
the kickoff in the uh uh in in the NFL
that the new kick was.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I can't stand it. I hate it, blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
We talked about it and Jonas, and Jonas says to me,
you know, boy, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I can't believe I'm usually the most negative person on
every show.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'm so negative.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
He goes, In fact, he goes, you know, your partner,
Mike Harmon would say to me, Wow, you find a
way to get so negative.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So fast about stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
And I said, this coming from a guy who last
night said he was anti player safety in the NFL,
that he wanted he wanted kickoffs to keep going and
he didn't care about player safety. I said, that's the
guy that told you you're so negative all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think I think you gave.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Jonahs a look in the mirror moment right there, buddy,
I really you know what, I try to do that
for for everybody.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
In this case, no, no, because it's the look we're
cynical by nature. Right, There's there's not a lot of
folks that are walking skipping through happy wonderland. In sports
talk radio and media we all come from. It's like comedians.
It's at all sunshine and rainbows.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
There's something that spurs us to get behind the microphone.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
In that moment yesterday, I just went full heel. I
think I think Jonah said he didn't say the thing.
Oh no, no, he said it. He's We talked about
it through the entire show. He was anti player safety,
and I said to him, you know, dude, there's lots
of things you can come out for and say something
that's really bad and controversial, and you will find a
lot of people to have your back on it. But man,

(02:52):
I don't know, if you say I'm anti player safety
in the NFL, You're gonna have a lot of people go, yeah,
I'm with guy.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
No player safety. Yeah. For the record, anybody wants to
go back on the podcast and hear the context in
which the line was uttered, No, don't need to. I
gave you the context you don't need with.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
These the sarcasm and the full explanation that followed theref context.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, you know what the content. That's fine, So hate
me and take it out on me instead of.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Your coworkers, your family, or someone who's waiting on you
at at a restaurant or bar.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Bring it to me at swollen Dope. I'll take your
durasion derision and hate well. You know, Mike Harmon anti
player safety overrated.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
The biggest headline of the night tonight we had an
honest to goodness no hitter in Major League Baseball from
a picture you heard of, Like that's always a big
thing whenever you hear hey no hitter tonight major League Baseball.
The first two questions people have is a was it
one guy? And then who wasn't right? Because if it
wasn't one guy, I'm not interested. If with someone no
one's ever heard of, that, I don't really care now.

(04:04):
But we had an honest to goodness no hitter tonight
with a couple of big surprises in it. Blake Snell
no hits, the Reds three nothing. Here's how the final
out sounded on the Giants radio network. This is where
you play the final out of the Blake Snell no hitter.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Cruise from the right side.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
First matches swaying fly ball right center, moving over, I
Isia Streemsky.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
He's there, He's done it, and.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Blake Snell has done it. Snell has thrown a no.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Hitter for the Giants tonight in Cincinnati. Blake Snell makes
history with a performance for the Ages tonight here at
Great American Ballpark, A no hitter is the Giants have
won three nothing.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
If you said to Blake Snell, you could pitch a
no hitter or win a really being Madden.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Tournament, what do you think he would pick? What do
you think, like, I don't know, Like there's I think
I think the Madden You.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Think he read about the Madden Tournament or or what
about a college football twenty five tournament?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
College football right in twenty five right now would make
him the guy. I mean, I don't know. If you
saw the meltdown dude had playing against Cam Newton today.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, no, he wasn't happy. No, he said some things
that are far worse than things about player safety. I
can tell you that. But but yeah, so maybe maybe
in the gaming world, you know, to be king of
the mountain. I mean, because the no hitter's cool. I mean,
he gets to trade on that for a long time.
He's gonna make a lot of money over the rest

(05:39):
of his life being able to you know, inscribe baseball's
and trading cards and whatever else. I mean, Tops, I'm
sure reached out and said, hey, we need you to
sign a bunch of cards in the next forty eight
to seventy two hours for the tops Now thing to
commemorate this wonderful moment. But I don't know being the
king of the gaming world, if that's where you spend
your free time in the twitch twitch world, I mean,

(06:02):
we see how powerful those quote influencers are unquote.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
You saw me.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know I just won a big tournament, right, I
just won this big hasn't had a no inner?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well you probably get a belt in the whole nine yards.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
First time for Blake Snell pitching in the ninth inning
of the game in his MLB career. Did you hear
that Kevin cash boy would have helped in twenty twenty
if you left him in against the Dodgers, maybe he
would have won the World Series?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
But you know what, what do I know?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I do?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I think he's only faced five batters after the seventh
inning in his career until time.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Like I said, it's it's insane.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
But the biggest surprise to me for this is Snell
goes to the ninth inning and he's thrown a lot
of pitches. Right, He's up around one hundred and eight
hundred and nine pitches, and the last two batters of
the game with Jonathan India and Elie de la Cruz,
both pretty good.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Hitters right day. La Cruz one of the top five
or seven players in the game.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
And both of them swung at the first pitch, and
you know, look, I understand that maybe they were going
up there thinking, Okay, no hitter. He's just gonna try
to get the first pitch over with a fastball, and
that may be the best pitch I gets. He's been
baffling us all night. But I know he's tired and
he's just gonna try to throw the first pitch over.

(07:16):
It's gonna be a meatball and I'm gonna whack it.
I get that. But you're just playing into his hands.
You haven't hit him all night. He's been pretty good
with his location all night, right, I mean, he's pitching
a no hitter.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
You gotta make him work more. When you're at one.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Hundred and ten pitches, make them work a little bit
and make a mistake. Make him nibble. He doesn't want
to go after you guys. Yes, he wants to win
the game, but it's three nothing you're talking about. These
are guys at the top of the order. He's not
gonna go crazy going right at you. Make the guy
work like India and de La Cruz just played into
his hands and he's like, I'm sure Snell walked off
the mountains at Oh my goodness, thank god they swung

(07:51):
at those first pitch, each one of them. Because I
didn't know what I had left. I'm on fumes. I'm
trying to figure it out. Yes, he had just struck
out the leadoff batter at the inning, but these are
two pretty good hitters, right oh overall two and like
I said, daily, Cruz one of my favorite players in
all of baseball. And all they did was help him
out by swing at the first pitch on the last
two at bats. Oh, I got the no hitter here.
Make him throw more, make him make a mistake, make

(08:12):
him do something. You're not looking to hit one off
the wall. You're not looking to hit a home run
and tie the game. You're looking to not be no hit,
which is to find a way to just hit one
where nobody is whether you're fisting the ball over the
second baseman's head or you're trying you get a ball
that's right on the edge of the strike zone, but
you can drive it.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
You're looking for something like that. Instead, they played right
in his hands.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
No, and once you're extended to that amount, right, and
it's clear this was going to be the night if
it was ever gonna happen, and it did for him.
But bailout opportunities. Right, you've been stretched to one hundred
and twelve pitches.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Keep it going, make it work, make it lean one in,
lean in, take one for the team, and get get
on base. I don't know, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
You know, all of that to make it as artist
scan like we got excited with Elie de la Cruz
coming up. It was like the the All Star bat
between schemes and judge.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's it. One pitch, sway, one pitch.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Come on, man, oh my god, man, take a strike,
Aaron Judge, come on, take a strike, give it.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Let let's build this up a little bit, help us up.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Bobby Valentine put on another fake mustache down the line.
You know you got a lot of stuff and instead
first ball swing and I'm like, oh, that sucked. Like
there was no drama to it.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's like, yeah, no, it didn't work. It was like, hey,
wait a minute, Yeah no, no, no, we just uh,
we're just gonna help you out right there.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
But when Elie de la Cruz Strode did the play,
like now we got something, It's like that Aaron Judge
and bat in the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Come on, now here we are, let's go. I'm saying,
inching up to the edge of my seat, like first
ball swinging, like damn you now look.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
The biggest Now, the big takeaway from this is just look,
just I hope every major league baseball manager. Dave Roberts
is listening when I say this. Blake Snell threw a
hundred fourteen pitches tonight.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
His arm.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Dave Roberts would really love to have the problem you're
about to describe. Dave Roberts would have had him out
of the game in the sixth inning. Hey you're okay, Blake,
but I've only throwing fifty four pitches. Yeah no, no,
it's all good. Blake Snell threw one hundred and fourteen
pitches tonight. His arm looked fine at the end. He
wasn't dragging it. He was able to celebrate with his team.
It wasn't don't touch me. He wasn't wincing. You can

(10:23):
throw one hundred and fourteen pitches in a game, right,
It's like so many managers get scared that hundred pitch
mark and it's what are we doing? And really it's
about the high stress innings. And when you're pitching a
no hitter and you're a you're at ninety some odd
pitches through seven, okay, right, like you're.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Pitching a no hitter. They're not. You're not.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
You're not getting out of every other inning. The bases
aren't loaded. Right, You're not at ninety two pitches through
five innings. You're at ninety some odd pitches through seven.
When you're at ninety through seven, you can go out
there for another fifteen or twenty pitches. You can do
that is twenty or twenty five pitches. You can get
to about one fifteen. Now, when a pitcher gets to
one forty, you on Santana, you want to worry about

(11:04):
that because if you're at one forty for a no hitter,
you've had some stressful innings, you put some guys on,
you've thrown a ton of pitches. You've had a couple
of twenty five and thirty pitch innings. Okay, that's when
you want to say, all right, you just drawn a
little bit too much. But when you're in the nineties yet,
guys can throw one hundred and fifteen pitches. You can
do that and not have to worry about a guy
blowing out his arm. Oh, we threw him one hundred
and fifteen pitches. That's what he's done. He's done.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
No, Blake Snell's only had a handful.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
It starts this year. Tonight was his first win. Okay,
I mean you can do that. His arm didn't fall off.
He's absolutely fine. So when a guy has a no
hitter and he's up in the low nineties through seven innings, yes,
get somebody in the bullpen ready, But you can leave
him in. This is history, this is something you may
never see again. Let the guy go right. I still
go back to Clinton Kershaw's perfect through seven innings against

(11:48):
the Twins and you take him out of the game.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
What the hell is going on? But Blake Snell's never
pitching nine innings again. Oh, he's done. I got the
no hitter. It's good, I got I had my complete game.
I got a no hitter.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Leave me the blank Look, he's only going to the
ninth inning anymore. If he has a no hitter, that's
the only time he's gonna do it now.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Or if he wants to fight his manager in a
World Series gamers, well there's that too, But just I mean,
it doesn't need to be something. You can let a
guy in and do it.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
It's okay to do it, but everybody just gets so
paranoid in the ninety five pitches and the phone rings
from upstairs and it's the general manager or the president
of baseball operation saying, hey, we got somebody out. No,
it's okay to leave a guy in for a buck
fifteen when he's going for astry. It's okay to do that.
And we don't see that nearly enough. It should be
a blanket thing. Yeah, unless the guy says, I got

(12:36):
nothing left, my arm is getting sore, I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Okay, you would need to come out, come out. Okay,
I understand that.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
But or if a guy gets hit on you know,
a line drive hits a guy, they throw the guy out. Hey,
you're all the stuff I understand, but the garden variety
ninety some odd pitches, seven innings. Let the guy go
until he gives up a hit. I mean it's it's
not suddenly at one hundred pitches. Ah, boy, there they go.
The guy just lost a finger. He's at one hundred
and fill he just lost another finger. Or now the
tip of the middle finger has just come off. Maybe

(13:02):
he can find a way to throw a new breaking
pitch with it with only the tip of the middle finger.
I don't know who does, but boy, he's just losing
fingers by the pitch.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Now you gotta get him out of this game. He's
falling apart like he's a muddy Python character only a
flat Come on and he kicks him and he falls.
Come on, you Joe kicks, but you've got no olms left.
What are you chicken? Yeah? Exit out a bout a fresca.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Exit swollen do on the Chase the Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon coming up next. Yes, we
got Rick Bucker Fox Sports One, NBA Insider, All the
latest on Team USA.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Who's getting the DNP? Is it going to matter? Who does?

Speaker 5 (13:39):
The unit?

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Speaker 1 (13:41):
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
So who's gonna get the big.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
D NPCD for the United States Men's national team next
in the Olympics? And is Jalen Brunson just a phone
call the way to play point guard for Steve Kerr
with us now in the Hotline to break it all down.
Fox Sports one NBA Insider extraordinaire. Check them out on
the On the Ball podcast. It's Rick Buker. Rick, what's happening?
But thanks for staying up with us, man, I appreciate.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
I'm happy to do it started and catch you guys earlier.
But uh, you know it's a Friday, so let's let's
let's hang out.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It's all good. Yeah, I've been waiting. I've been waiting
to ask you this all week.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
You're ready.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I've been waiting to ask you a question all week.
Why don't know if you agree with me on this?
We were talking about obviously Steve Kerr, the d NPCDS
and and and it's Tatum and it's embiid that haven't
been playing and look for me, Steve Kerr has been
doing a masterful job at everything, like he's absolutely the
right guy for this team. There's keeping the controversy down.
But I was thinking to myself, what if Tibbs was

(15:34):
coaching this team right like we did, Like, what would
it be if different people were coaching this team? And
this is what we came up with, right, the starters
would be Drew Holliday, Derek White, a e at a
bio and these guys they would play thirty five minutes.
I mean, Drew Holliday would play all forty minutes, and

(15:54):
like Lebron and Steph and they would play like four
minutes off the bench, like that would be his starting
five that he would put out there for the game.
And then these guys and some guys won't get off
the bench at all, Like there'd be five guys with
d n pcds on it.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
I don't think you're that far from the truth. In fact,
I would imagine that this wouldn't even be the team
that the Timbs would want to coach. Like, first of all,
there's no way that Tyrese Haliburton would be on this
team over Jalen Brunts. Let's let's let's face that fact, right,
And there was a number of guys that were on

(16:31):
last year's World Cup team, Josh Hart being another one.
He'd be on this team like you would have all
worker Bees, no doubt, no doubt about it. If if
Tibbs was was was the head coach, which is probably
one reason why Tibbs is not the head coach. And
I would never expect him that he's going to end
up being a Team USA coach because of that. So,

(16:57):
you know, I agree with you. I think that Steve
has done a tremendous job and the fact that he's
being critiqued this is the classic, Yeah you're winning, but
we don't like the way you're winning. Okay, we think
you should be winning a different way. And it's really
applying the NBA approach to the international game, which is

(17:19):
is just not the same.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
It really is.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
And it's a belief that no matter who we put
out on the court, when we put them out there,
that we are going to win. And I just do
not believe that we are in that place. I think
that the reason that we have. I think the reason
that the games were close, some of the games were
close during the run up, was because Steve took those

(17:42):
games and said, I'm not worried about blowing everybody out.
What I want to do is I want to find
out as much as I can about this team before
the games matter. And so like he could have played
Joe l Embiid a couple of minutes in the game
against South Sudan. You know the idea that they play

(18:04):
too fast and all that. The counter to that is,
you know, Joel Embiid is still trying to work his
way into game shape. You normally would play it. But
what it does is it takes the onus and the
look that Jason Tatum was being unfairly treated. It sends
the message like, oh, we're just going to play the

(18:25):
guys that we think are best for any given night,
and that may change from game to game, and everybody
should be okay with it, because for the most part,
everybody could be susceptible to it. And the fact of
the matter is they came out and they played a
much better game against South Sudan as a result. You
look at the way Drew Holliday has played. He also

(18:47):
was out of the starting lineup. Nobody made any mention
of that, and Drew Holliday didn't play any different. And
so I just I look at the way the team
has performed and the idea that people four thousand miles
away are looking at it and saying, well, I think
the craziest thing is with Tatum is the idea that, well,

(19:10):
you know, he's a multiple All NBA player and he's
been to the finals twice, and he just won a
championship and he's only twenty seven years old, And I'm like,
what does a guy's resume have to do with putting
the best five guys on the floor at any given
time or playing the guys that are going to give
us the best chance to win. Like that whole idea

(19:32):
of resume. And we have the caltow to stars. That
is the NBA approach, particularly when it comes what our
expectations are from coaches. And you know, there's a moment
during the South Sudan game and I see Steve Kerr
and Eric Spolsterra and Tyron Liu And by the way,
Steve Kerr takes a page from the Greg Popovitch book,
like he's very inclusive with his coaching staff in terms

(19:55):
of making decisions. Someone, if you're criticizing Steve Kerr, you're criticized.
You're not just criticizing him, you're criticizing three coaches who
have won championships and saying they don't know what they're
doing and how they're handling this team. And by the way,
they're seven to zero right and they've had two blowout

(20:16):
games in the Olympics. But we're going to find fault
with who he's playing and how he's playing them. I
just think the whole thing is crazy, And as we
go forward, the beauty of this is you're setting you're
creating a template now in games that we were expected
we were expected to get out of group play, we

(20:36):
were expected to go undefeated and group play, but we
still got France coming up. We still got Germany, who
I think is going to be the toughest challenge should
we meet them. And now he's kind of created a
situation where he can do what is best for the
team and he shouldn't have to worry and by all

(20:57):
accounts the way players are reacted, not going to have
to worry about anybody like his locker room going sour
or somebody having an issue with it because it has
worked and guys are going along with it. So I'm
I just this is this beat on Steve Kerr not
knowing what he's doing, goes back to, you know, this

(21:20):
regular season with the with the Warriors, because they haven't
been in the mix the way we are used to
being them being in the mix. But to me, that
has a lot more to do with the hand that
he's playing now versus those championship years than it is
that he's somehow mishandling his roster.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, and Bruce Degoes and everything are all finding good
because in two weeks they go their separate way and
the only guy he's got to look at is Steph Curry.
So because we are in sportstok radio and TV, though Rick,
we need the negative who gets the DNP? Where's the
fickle hand to face run against Puerto Rico.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Wouldn't it be so good if it was Steph Curry?
Like that would be the ultimate. Like, I'm just going
to do what is needed. I think.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
As being a youth coach as long as I have
coaching youth sports, Like I think, what if what if
he did that for the first game and he sat
Steph for the first game, Because that way nobody could
ever complain, Right, Hey, I just sat my guy, So
if you sit, you can't complain. It's like if I
sat my best player in a youth game, Like if
I sat my daughter in a youth game for the

(22:26):
first game, no one could ever complain to me about
playing time. I sat my kid the entire first game.
So it works out if he had done that, he
wouldn't be answering these questions.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Now, Yeah, well, yeah, well no, no, he he he would,
he would somebody would. I assure you somebody, somebody would
have found issue with it, you know. And the fact
is that that that Steph hasn't played particularly well and
he's had a pretty I mean, there was a couple

(22:55):
of games there where where stuff struggled and he was
he was cryptical him and he didn't play He's not
he hasn't played the same minutes. I mean I think
the one game or was it Serbia, there was a
game where yeah, I think it was Serbia where he
didn't play particularly well. He was sort of getting targeted
and Embat only played eleven minutes and Steph I think

(23:17):
played twenty one. I think he played the next fewest
minutes of any starter. So and he knows, and I've
had this conversation with Steph, like Steph knows that, you know,
he has to set the template, like if he takes issue,
that means it gives license to everyone to take issue

(23:39):
with the way things are going on. And let's not forget.
So Steve's demonstrated this before where he started Jordan Poole
going into the playoffs because Steph was hurt, and then
Steph came back and played and played well and looked
like he was ready to go, and Steve continued to
start Jordan because she was like, I'm not going to
change what worked to just to acquiesce to my star player.

(24:02):
If I do that, then I am putting the priority,
I'm putting the focus of what we're trying to get
done here in the wrong place. I'm not trying to
keep people happy. I'm trying to win games. And sometimes
that means guys have to bite the bullet and say,
you know what, I'll make the sacrifice if that's what's
required for us to have the best chance to win.

(24:25):
And that's what I think he has set up for
Team USA, and I will tell you that hasn't always
been the case with our national teams, and it's why
we have at times struggled, because there's been a conscientious
effort to keep guys happy for one reason or another.
And even within all that, look the way that Derek

(24:47):
White and Steph's played, Okay, he just hasn't played up
to his usual standard. But Derek White, Devin Booker, Drew Holiday,
Steph Curry. That's four that's four guards. And yet against
South Sudan, he not only found a way to get
Tyrese Haliburton minutes, but he got them in the second quarter.

(25:10):
So they weren't like just garbage time minutes. It was
I trust you enough that I'll play you in the
first half. Now they were up by seventeen or whatever.
But I just think he's it's not like he's been
arrogant about the moves that he's made. He's been conscious
of you know what. I don't want to make guys
feel too bad. So he goes, you have to start

(25:31):
Tatum game two. But it was like, you know what,
let me throw on a bone, and he didn't play
in the previous game. Let me start him in this
game because it works, And so I just here's I guess.
The greatest issue for me is I'm not hearing anything
from the players like this is wrong or I'm being

(25:54):
done wrong. So why do we have people on the
outside suggesting that there be done wrong when the players
themselves are like, now, I'm good with it.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, you know the business you work in, Rick, I mean,
you know, hey, if we're rolling along with Wins, it's
gonna you know, it's gonna be a thing. No, because
I agree with you I think it's made up. It
was stunning to see Tatum not play, But this is
a story that's made up by us, you know, completely,
And Steve Kurz right when he says, hey, you know, listen,
there's a lot of noise outside. I also think them
being in Paris and all the noise being here really

(26:28):
helps because you're away from it now. At the same time,
I agree with you. Could he play everybody at least
a minute or two in the game?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yes, he could.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
He could put some He could put an mbid for
a couple of minutes at the end of the first quarter,
or a minute at the end of the first quarter.
Haliburton in for two minutes at the end of the
first half, and hey, everybody at least gets in the game.
You want to avoid Hey we're up by twenty, you
want to go in and play the last five minutes.
That's what nobody wants. But if not, like suddenly, hey
my hands are tied. No, dude, you could get everybody
in if you really really wanted to, and it wouldn't

(26:58):
really be a big difference in the game.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
No, no, it wouldn't. But again, like, what, what's what's
the point here? And and here's here is again, these
guys are still trying to develop their chemistry. And keep
in mind with the international game you have, you have
eight fewer minutes and you know time five, that's forty

(27:22):
fewer minutes to work with. And you're dealing with NBA
players because they're stars who are used to all playing
thirty minutes every time they get out there. And when
you when you play that many minutes on a consistent basis,
you don't you don't develop the ability to get your
rhythm quick. That's what That's what guys who come off

(27:43):
the bench and play fifteen twenty minutes a game, that's
what they have to develop because that's the roles they play.
And so some of this is also like the guys
that I am playing, the main guys that I'm playing,
I need to give them as much time as I can.
And he said it like, I'm trying to keep everybody
in the roles that they that they normally have, and

(28:06):
so that means I can't play my five best players
who were used to having the ball all the time,
because they're not like if they're all on the floor
at the same time, they're not. Some of those guys
are going to have to play as complimentary players, and
they may not be as talented as they may be.

(28:26):
It's it's just a different ass when you when you're
not touching the ball or you're not the one that's
that's creating things. And so that's why that's why Derek
White and Drew Holliday, h and even Bam out of
Bio in his way, and and Anthony Davis to a
certain extent, like they've been so valuable because they can

(28:46):
and are willing to impact the game when called upon,
but if not called upon, it's not going to change
them trying to do the little things that end up
helping you win. So I just I just think it's
all of it goes back to the fact that we
have this arrogance that if we put a bunch of

(29:08):
our best NBA players on the floor, that we're going
to win. Winning is a foregone conclusion. And I do
not believe in this day and age playing the international
game that it is. I believe that we have to
be very intentional in who we play and how we
play in order in order to win. And it hasn't

(29:31):
shown up quite yet. But then we really haven't played
any of the teams that are the biggest threats to us,
and we've seen over the last ten to fifteen years
when we do play those teams, it is a challenge.
We are challenged, and I believe that the gap just
continues to narrow. And so it's important that we, as

(29:51):
the old saying goes, that we play the right way.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Look out for Wagner. He's going to dunk on everybody.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
But Rick, I leave you with this, how likely are
we to have one of these unsportsmanlike quote unquote plays
ruin a big game in these metal rounds?

Speaker 7 (30:08):
Uh? Yeah, Well, look, I mean this is part and
parcel with the international game and how it's officiated. And
and no one's ever going to go, oh, you know what,
I really appreciate NBA officiating now, And we're never.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Gonna get that.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
Nobody's ever gonna say that. But the truth of the
truth of the matter is we should probably appreciate NBA
officiating a little bit more than now. We get to
see how the other has lived.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
But I missed Scott Foster. I really missed the extender
when they send her to those games.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
Can you just see, like, like all the guys from
Team USA, the next time they have a Scott Foster game,
just going up to them beforehand and going, hey, look,
I just want to apologize for anything I've ever said
about you.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
They a great unifying event. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
They shake his hand and they give him a souvenir
from the Olympics. Here's a T shirt. Hey, here's something.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Thanks a lot. I appreciate all your things.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Here's a pin from the water polo team. I want
you to have it. I've got a new appreciation for you.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
He's on Twitter, at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker.
Here's a pin from the water Polo team. Rick is
always buddy, Thanks so much, enjoying the weekend. We'll talk
to you next week.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
You got it, Foster, you Scott.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Here's a water water Oh boy, I have the basketball one.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
No no, no, can't have that. I gotta save that.
I gotta give that to tips right now. A guy
who once stole a US water polo pin, sold it
on eBay for fifty five bucks, was arrested, went to prison,
got released, and now here he is doing updates with US.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
Steve to say, wait a minute, you can get fifty
five blocks for a water polo pin.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I think depends on what Olympics you're coming from. But
possibly yeah, yeah, like nineteen thirty two. Maybe, I don't know.
Maybe at the Olympics.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
In men's hoops in France, Germany defeated France today eighty
five seventy one, twenty six points apiece for Dennis Schreuder
and Franz Wagner. Germany's three and oh both teams advance.
It's looking like the US will pass Germany for the
one seed based on point differential. Tomorrow Saturday, the US
men against oh and two Puerto Rico, Greece today beat

(32:32):
Australia Jannisantenakumpo twenty points. Canada's three and oh after defeating
Spain eighty eight eighty five Shay Gilgers Alexander twenty points
including too late free throw, Spain is out. Leon Marshawn
of France one is fourth swimming gold of these Olympics.
Taking the two hundred am Marshawn became only the fourth
swimmer in Olympic history to win four individual golds at

(32:54):
a single games. The others Michael Phelps, who did it twice,
Mark Spitz famously in nineteen seven, and in East German
in nineteen eighty eight, Carlos Alcarez and Novak Djokovic advanced
to the Sunday tennis final. Djokovic has never been in
an Olympic final. Number one rank Egos Fiantek won the
women's bronze medal. Xander Schoffley has tied for the golf

(33:15):
leet at the Olympics. Halfway through John Ramas two shots back,
US men's soccer lost its quarter final four nothing to Morocco.
US women's soccer plays its quarter final Saturday morning against Japan.
On the track, the US set the world record in
the mixed relay heat four by four hundred. The final
for that is Saturday. Grant Fisher won bronze in the
ten thousand meters. The women's one hundred meter final is tomorrow.

(33:38):
Gino Smith, Seahawks quarterback is out in definitely, although tests
on his knee showed no significant damage. He's now missed
three straight practices. The Hall of Fame ceremonies are tomorrow.
Chance of rain allbay tomorrow in Kanton, Ohio. The Dolphins
canceled their stadium practice tomorrow due to a storm in Florida.
To Major League Baseball Seattle a ten to two winner
over the Phillies, who've lost five straight. Houston three to

(34:00):
two over Tampa Bay. Houston and Seattle still tied for
first in the AL West. Youse Ka Kuchi no decision
in its Houston start, but he had eleven strikeouts in
five and two third innings, including eight straight strikeouts. But
Blake Snell pitched a no hitter tonight for San Francisco
three nothing at Cincinnati. Snell eleven strikeouts and three walks

(34:20):
in his first ever complete game late night wins for
the Mets, Rockies and the A's, who held on to
edge the Dodgers six to five despite a late three
run homer from Shoheo Tani his thirty third Aaron Judge
at his fortieth homer of the season, but Toronto beat
the Yankees eight five. There was a rain delay at
the start, so that one ended after eleven thirty pm
Eastern time. Yankee still tied for first with Baltimore in

(34:42):
the AL East. Cleveland eight four over the Oriols. Cleveland's
won five straight. Kansas City won its fifth in a
row victories for Arizona, Milwaukee and the Cubs, and the
Atlanta Breys with three in the bottom of the eighth
beat Miami five to three, Miami's forty and seventy. And
then there's the White Sox Minnesota beat the White White
Sucks ten to two. White Sox losers of eighteen straight

(35:04):
record of twenty seven and eighty five. You remember it
was like two weeks ago when we said they had
the Carlton Fisk.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Record twenty seven and seventy two. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (35:12):
Sure, it's been two weeks and they still haven't won
a game in all the time since then.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, back to you, it's been a minute.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
Pretty soon they're gonna have the Fisk Luis Robert record.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I think, Hey, how long.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Till the How long till the Fisk? Aaron Judge Jersey,
how long do we get that weeks? Stay tuned? Two
more weeks exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
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from the Tyraq dot com studios. Coming up next, Mike
and I preview the biggest event of the day tomorrow.
Who's coming away with the huge needed w We'll tell
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Speaker 1 (35:59):
Fox or Its Radio The Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon live from the Tyraq dot com studios. Uh,
just really quick before you get into the US women's
national team who I think they play in about ten
minutes in the quarterfinals in soccer.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I've been saying this the last few days. This is
the biggest season. This is the biggest series of the
season for the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Big weekend.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yep, it's been a horrible last couple of weeks. The
Padres have caught fire. They're five games back. They need
a sweep of the A's to get back to normal.
They should sweep the A's even though the A's have
been playing well. They lose opening night tonight, they lose
six ' five. Now you got Jack Flowerty tomorrow if
he goes down tomorrow, like you're you're looking at hey,

(36:46):
Dodgers wild Card could be a thing. All of a sudden,
this fada complete the Dodgers in the World Series, like
they got to pick it up. They've been a five
hundred team for two and a half months, Like this
is a big get right series and suddenly you lost
the first game to the A's.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
But Otani hit a home run, so that's so. Yeah,
so there's that. Okay, we can't get a starting pitcher
past the fifth inning, right, that's where the Dodgers are
at right now.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Bullpen management, a lot of injuries and all of those.
But you think, you look at the schedule, it's like,
all right, at least you'll get a bit of a
breather here, and instead no, once again, rough night for
the pitching staff, and you take the l and the padres.
You know, you didn't get any ground today. But they
made the moves at the break to close that gap.

(37:35):
Right reality in terms of the standings, but also perception
wise of where they are. They're healthy and coming.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
As opposed to where the Dodgers are still hoping that
their team gets back to normal here for the final stretch.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, it has been some kind of of run the
last couple of weeks, and they they really to get
right series and this is off to the way the
wrongs start now. Meanwhile, it's not in ten minutes, but
in a little bit less than eight hours, the US
women's national team takes on Japan in the quarterfinals of soccer.
It's the first big must see win or go home

(38:13):
event of the Olympics for the for the the Sexy Stars,
which are both men's and women's basketball teams, and the
women's soccer team.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
First things first, I'm gonna say this. You know what
I feel about the top three. I've talked about them forever. Congratulations,
everybody else wants to pick up on. Boy, these three
forwards are great. Japan's tough, but this should still be
a game we walk away with a victory. It should
it shouldn't. I honestly, I need more from two of
the players that you wouldn't think you need more from.

(38:44):
I need more from Lindsay Horan and Rose level like
they have. They have just not been Lindsay Horan and
Rose level. And maybe they were great when they were
part of a great team, and now that they're expected
to be the leaders of this team, they're not quite
as good. But boy, they have just Horan has made
a lot of mistakes. Lavelle has been somewhat invisible. Like

(39:05):
I need more from them. I mean, despite that, I
still think the United States is gonna win because the
forwards are just rolling and they put too much pressure
on the other team. Give me a goal from Mallory Swanson,
a goal from Sophia Smith, and I'm gonna say they
beat Japan two to one. But boy, I you know,
I that they're masking the concerns at midfield and on
defense that the US women's team has. It's like, just

(39:26):
keep scoring, Just keep scoring you three. If you keep scoring,
we'll win. Boy, don't make us concentrate on what we
need to do with the mids and on.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
B Yeah, better better job last time out and Haran
more involved and certainly the header would have been just
a huge play, right that that was an opportunity. But
the fact that she was open enough and found the
space to get to the ball was a positive sign
because that that had been lacking. So big spot there.

(39:54):
I'll trump you. I'll go one goal higher, I'll go
three to one. Open it up, and those front three
really get after it. So yeah, it's look historically, what
seven wins and a tie in history and for four
and zho in these kind of events, So let's go.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I think they just I think, honestly, I think they
give Lindsay Horan too much real estate to cover, right.
I think it's just too she can't she's not that
full box to box midfielder anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
She just isn't.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
She's not fast enough, Like if she played more of
a camposition, like more of a you know, an offensive
mid and be like, okay, great, but that you know,
but you're talking about mavering around you know your lineup
and now you see it. But I think it's just
it's just too much real estate to give her to cover.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Oh does the men's basketball team cover the thirty five
and a half?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Uh No, they do not cover thirty five? And who's
the DNP. I'm gonna go the DNP is it once again?
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