August 6, 2024 • 54 mins
Mike Harmon’s White Sox in route for 21 straight losses. The guys debate if Daniel Jones won the Giants locker room over today. And longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora swings by for all the biggest stories coming out of training camps. And Jason Smith tells you what the Colorado Football Team and Grand Theft Auto have in common. Plus, the Browns and Patriots emerge as frontrunners for Brandon Aiyuk!
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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(00:53):
It's glorious because the Mets have already won and we
get to watch your White Sox go for lost number
twenty one year.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh they're already losing.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, I mean, look, he came out strong, allowed Sears
to mow them down on six pitches in the first.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, that's six pitch top of the first is it's
gonna keep him in if he has that no hitter
all the way to the end, his pitch counted for
not going to be high enough to take him out.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Highly advantageous there.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
And then you get Kyle Busch comes in in his
major league debut and gives up a seven pitch walk
to the first hitter he faced. But we also had
some Olympic coverage and they were doing a third place
for shooting. Yeah, and the guy looked like a well
quaffed Iowa Sam Okay, like he was from Germany and
they were doing a shoot off and if he if
(01:37):
Sam got a haircut, he kind of looked like that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And I was just participating in the Olympics. That's great.
Let let's let's stick on the white Sox.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Here be no I have to I have to get
it away twenty you're going for twenty one, and it's
one nothing already trying to match from way back in
the yesteryear when they started the season. Oh in twenty one.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
This game in front of friends and family, there's like
eighteen people there, like I would expect I've expected more
people here for okle like this, Hey, we're.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Gonna dominate this. They are heavy favorites tonight. I forget
what the year was, but I saw it early this morning.
It just went, yeah, that sounds about right, almost a
minus two hundred favorite. But they did an We were
watching the pregame and they had the over the aerial shot, like,
why would you show that, Like we know it's going
to be a sparse crowd. Why why are you pulling
(02:26):
back the curtain. There's like eight people there. Okay, hey
there's John in section three oh five.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But if you show the close up shots of no seats,
it's easy. No shots of no seats. If you have
bad vision, they're banking on half people. They probably can't see,
but you'll fool them because it's full behind home plate. Everybody,
come on down, all pack it in all twelve seats
behind home plate in Oakland Coliseum. Already there you can see.
(02:51):
That's all good.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Spent many a day in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I never saw possum. I saw some other rodents, but
you know, possum be coming out of the bullpen tonight
could be.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You never know.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Hey, now this guy's gonna work on a low pitch count,
so he's gonna expend.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
If the A's are winning this game, you're gonna get
to face position players. The A's aren't gonna waste actual
pictures against this line.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Get through this series. How about it? The best graphic
we saw in the pregame though?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What was it?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, when the when the when they show that we're
watching the.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
White Sox broadcast, right, and Harmon and I are just
going crazy over the White Sox broadcast. And they showed
the lineup, the starting lineup of the team, which you know,
which they do all the time, which you say, here's
your starting lineup tonight, and normally you see the player's
name and then their batting average. Sometimes you get home
runs and and and uh and RBIs, but you used
to get you get the batting average. And you know,
(03:43):
because it would look really bad for the White Sox
because they don't have any good players, they decide to
show here's what everybody's ops is against left handed hitters.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So it's not even in general against left handed hitters,
because here's the handed pictures.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The White Sox starting lineup tonight. There is nobody hitting
over two thirty five and that's bleep and depressing.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So they say, hey, they probably in the pre show meeting.
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Man, people just want to tune out when they se
everbody hitting other two thirty five. Hey, let's just show
what their OPS is. And it's not like the OPS
is a great When you see six fifty four, you think, oh,
that's got to be good.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
No, six fifty four is a bad.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
But that's the problem is there were multiple players in
the White Sox starting lineup that had an OPS lower
than two thirty five.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's where we're at, I mean baseball. Yeah, at this point,
just put the names. Just put the names and where
they're from. That's you do, instead of just the names
where they're from and like some kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Random fact about that's.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, hey, you know here's here is the only likes
red jelly Bean, Luis Robert batting third. He's from uh
Des Moines, Iowa. And the factory really really wants to
be traded like like that. He was really good several
years ago. Sure was once the future. Now untradable. Andrew
Andrew Benattendee. Uh you know the left field from Brooklyn,
(05:03):
New York. Yes, this is the same guy from the
Red Sox, you know, as you.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Do, no, And I was telling you about the tales,
the sad tale of Ozzie Gehan who wanted to go
back and manage his former team and was passed over
for Pedro Griffall, who's now over one hundred games.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Ozzy's a lucky one under one under five hundred.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
This is but Ozzie was having like a bit of
a breakdown in relaying this to Frank Thomas and the host,
saying they chose this guy over me.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, how do you think I feel?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You don't want to partner, but you don't think he
would have been doing this. This is like in the
office when when Dwight was going to be the vice
president and Robert California said I'm tanking it and Jim said, Dwight,
don't go. So Todd Packer took over his vice president
and he got fired. And Dwight's like, oh, dodge the
bullet there. Okay, that's exactly what he got.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, but maybe Ozzy wouldn't, or at least in his
miland he thinks he would have gotten different results.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You are you are looking up at what could be
twenty one losses in a row.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Once upon a.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Time it was twenty seven and seventy two, and it
was Carlton Fisk Knight.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, now it's key.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I'm telling you're gonna be twenty seven and Aaron judgeson
twenty seven. How long till twenty seven and ninety twenty seven?
And Judge, now you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait.
Was Brian Lawton eighty nine or ninety eight, ninety eight?
He was with the North Start.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I would say this, so one thing in that battery,
if anything could cool off Aaron Judge, it would be
a night with Carlton Fisk behind the plate because you
could never get into a rhythm at the plate because
he was gonna stand up and adjust his crotch and
then squat back down, say no, that's not right, get
back up, do it again, and stare you in the
eye the whole time.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Right now, your record is Carlton Fisk and Eric Decker.
Oh good, lose tonight you're Carlton Fiske and Michael Irvin.
So that's where you are. Then eighty eight yo, then
you'd be Carlton Fisk and Billy Joe Dupree.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Then we get to ninety boy, we get Julius Peppers
just went in and then you did. Okay, that's fine, mareshit.
That was the only thing that gave he solace this weekend.
Jordan's showed up for Julius Peppers.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, McMichael got in, which again long overdue, and Devin
Hester walked in after. You know, we saw the first
generation of whatever that new kickoff is. But either way,
I got three bears in the Hall of Fame. Light
is good. Mike was good for that day.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
My friend the Jason Spencer with Mike Carmon live from
the Tirech dot Com studios. We'll lot more baseball on
the way. And of course keeping track of this game
is you know the White Socks could go to Carlton
Fisk and Michael.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, laugh it up at my expense. That's slowing Dome
get him coming in.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
But we got Jason locking Forest stop and buy in
a few minutes. We had the first big brawl of
training camp because the Steelers one the other day was
just hey, Justin Field's running in.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That's great. But you had the first brawl.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Today in a joint practice between the Giants and the Lions,
and it was partly incited by Daniel Jones. This is
the big viral headline today because he decides, hey, I'm
gonna win there, because you know, you had one of
the linemen getting up pretty slow off off one of
his offensive line. He decides, I'm gonna go in there
and make sure that they don't do this. Of course,
it's hot because it's ninety eight bleeping degrees and they're
(08:10):
playing and uh, little brawl breaks out. Daniel Jones in
the middle of it, inciting it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Says, a situation happens like that, you try to stand
up for your guys. Yeah, now that's a guy who's
trying to win the locker room.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I will tell you this. Why did Daniel Jones do Why?
Why did Daniel Jones do that? I'll tell you why.
Because there is no one in the NFL who had
a worse off season than Daniel Jones. Why because the
Giants could have gone after quarterback and they didn't. All right, Well,
(08:47):
because they paid a lot of money to Daniel Jones. Okay,
he's got one chance to figure it out, all right,
that's fine. Daniel Jones is coming back. The Giants are
sort of storting over it, all right. But this is
where I say I was wrong. I was wrong in
the impact that the off season Hard Knock Show had
on me and on the sports world. Who's gonna carrot
(09:08):
the Giants? They're so bleep and boring. What the hell
are they gonna say?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But the two biggest things that you took away from
this Hard Knocks the offseason with the Giants is one boy,
come on, man, Saquon Barkley, that treating them like they
were letting Walter Payton go. I mean just stop for
a second, okay, like one Barklay. The other thing is
everybody hates Daniel Jones. They can't wait to get rid
of them. They can't wait to replace him. Joe Shane's
kid is throwing shade at Daniel Jones while he's in
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his office.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Only you draft.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You just watched that entire Hard Knocks and you could
tell every single person the organizations like, we have to
get rid of this guy. We have to move on
from Daniels. Now, why you wouldn't draft a quarterback or
figured it out early in the season.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You should do, especially aren't coming off of multiple injuries.
No matter what you paid him, that's so cost at
this point, do you think you would have taken care
of that.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But you know the Giants, they do things differently, and
I'm sure they thought, well, we don't like the guys
we could take. What are we gonna do take Drake
May look at the guy, what are we gonna do?
So no, no, let's just wait. Let's just wait and
whatever happens this year. If Daniel Jones is really good, Okay,
we got a quarterback. We're already paying he's got two
more years left on his deal. If not, then we'll
really make a push in the offseason to go after
(10:19):
a guy. We're paying him too much money. Now, we
couldn't go out and gainst it. We didn't like the
guys to get in the draft, whatever it was. So
do I like the strategy? No, because Daniel Jones stinks.
There's only one problem with him. He stinks. It's only
one problem. That's the only problem with Daniel Jones. He stinks.
And so he had the worst off season of anybody
because all he did was watch his team on TV
(10:40):
every week in when the coaches, the general manager, the
GM's kid. I'm sure the GM kids friends was texting
them about stuff that they don't want you. They really want.
They're hoping that you fail at some point so they
can play Tommy Cutltz for a little while and then
say this is great. He'll go appear in another couple
of Italian rests on in New Jersey. Bottle of White,
(11:02):
bottle of red. Yeah, Tommy Cullins is great, and then
we'll go get our guy in the off season. Like
I'm not saying they're hoping he fails, but it's like
they're expecting it. They're prepared for the outcome. They don't
think there's any other outcome other than Daniel Jones is
gonna stink and now we got to move on next year.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Now, the other thing that comes out of this, and
I don't think Jones is the biggest loser of all
this because I think your GM and your coach they
both showed their asses and they both should have been
fired as soon as this stuff started to air.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Well, you gotta give hard Knock something.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I mean, it's giants, but it shows their level of
ineptitude and their inability to read a room and.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
The recognition that the damn red light is on and
what you're saying is gonna go out to a.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Broadcast if the combination of Giants general manager is Joe
Shane and his kid.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I feel pretty good. No, no, But if the kid's
making the decisions, then maybe you got a shot. But
you're not paying the kid.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's fine. Kid comes along with Shane. But if Joe
Shane's overruling him and that together, you know, it doesn't matter.
If he's as you're gonna take the kids input. Yeah,
who actually studied? It seemed the drafted what may have
been done on TV dead versus Brian Dables salivating. I
know he lost a bunch of weight, but he's salivating
(12:15):
over these other quarterbacks. Okay, how about your brain trust
gets in a damn room and figures out how to
go and either improve the position or recognize Oh wait,
we signed this guy. How do we coach him up,
get players around him and make it better? Oh wait,
we let that running back go over to Philadelphia, but
we had him trying to pinky promise that he was
(12:36):
gonna call us back if he got another offer.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Really, that's what you put out? So yeah, they're worse.
He's on the metal stand, but he's a distant third.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Daniel Jones worst off season in the end.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Shane Table dable only get second because he lost some
weight and he looks like he added some life to him.
The problem is he still showed bad decision making time
and time again. Well, he wasn't eating as much, so
ma's probably a little loopy when you don't.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
But you gotta keep the blood sugar rise. Understand that
when you're watching game.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Table, say, oh man, I could go after that quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That would be great. You ready for your interview with
Hard Knocks. The crew as Yeah, I gotta have a
sandwich first thing on it. Somebody go get me a sandwich.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
You know it.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
It's really bad last week's episode. I gotta make sure
up regulated and I hope he's great and whatever. But
from a coaching and GM position, the two those two
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lockin Ford coming you right in a second. But just
a really cool moment to tell you about right now.
Freddie Freeman back in the Dodgers lineup for the first time.
His son Max is in the hospital for a long
time now doing better, discharged. Freddie Freeman back in the
(15:13):
Dodgers lineup at home, getting a standing ovation right now
as he bats with two outs on the top of
the first inning, Freddie Freeman, having a tough time keeping
it together, took his helmet off. They are still standing
and clapping for him as he makes his return of
the Dodgers' lineup. The Phillies all have their hats off
in the field for him as well. Just a really
really cool moment right now. We'll keep you updated on this.
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Phillies and the Dodgers. Nothing. Nothing in the bottom of
the first inning, but we are in the full swing
of training camp. The Giants and Lions nearly getting a brawl.
Daniel Jones is standing up for himself. Aaron Jones looks great.
Aaron Rodgers looks great, but he's salty, I'm sure. Aaron
Jones looks great as well.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
He did look pretty good in the clips that I've
seen with us.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
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Speaker 6 (16:06):
This is pretty I'm watching. This is pretty your most
here man. This is not your normal sort of clicking knowledgement.
Oh for Freddie Freeman, what a good dude. Thankfully hopefully
it looks like everything's going to be all right there,
which is so but wow, wow, wow, Yeah, there was like.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
A minute ovation for you had to step out of
the batter's box.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Yeah, several times found his chest and yeah, holy moly.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So we'll keep you update on this great moment right
here between the Phillies and the Dodge. Now they're showing
pictures of Freddy with his family and now his kid
is doing better, which is such an awesome, awesome thing.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Now, as Fary, well, first of all, before you get
to football, I know every day I want to check
and make sure we are in your Orioles meter, how
happy or or unhappy you are?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Where are you today?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Because last week you were about at a two as
far as your level of happiness?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Yeah, I mean, I wish they actually got somebody who
could help the Kias and Knights and he gets the deadline,
because that's kind of I think, you know, pretty important
in October baseball, at least as far as I can tell.
But they, you know, to split that series with the Guardians,
So they showed a lot of moxie and fight the
last two games. But I do believe they have some
October flaws, but hopefully they can overcome them.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
All right, So now with football, we get to, uh,
what's the What's what's one of the big storylines that
stood out for you over the first few days of camp.
You're like, Wow, this is something I'm gonna want to
follow over the course of the next month.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
I mean, I can't get too caught up at anything
anybody does a practice, you know, Like I just I'm
pumctuble for that stuff. You know, I just I can't
get there. So you know, this guy looking good and
that guy looking good doesn't do a whole lot for me.
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Is it the quarterback? Whatout the quarterback battles?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like any of those we have four or five teams
that have them right now.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
No, I feel like I kind of know where most
of those are going to go, you know, pending somebody
completely peeing down their leg, Like at least I think
I know they're where the lead is, you know, all
things being remotely equal, which way they're probably going to lead.
I think a couple will go veteran, and I think
a couple are going to want to see what they
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have all the way through with their kids, because especially
like I don't know, Denver could very well be picking
you know, even higher than they did a year ago,
perhaps significantly higher, in which case, you know, we're talking
about quarterbacks, weep say. I mean, it's sort of like
who's getting their house in order and who's not. You know, like, Okay,
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Miami checks some boxes. Are they going to regret them? Maybe,
but like they did what they sort of had to do.
You know. Then you've got a couple of other situations
where things are festering and things are smoldering, and we'll
just kind of over like everybody moving into regular season
mode here, you know, and you're getting days off before
(19:02):
games and days off after games, and guess what, the
Vets don't play in the games anymore either, So we're
kind of down to like two or three day work weeks,
which is you know, playing practice in the regular season.
So somebody hold, is you know, some of these contractual loggerheads,
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we're getting to a point now where you know it
doesn't matter, and like, I just don't think it's going
to end well for some of these teams. And then
I'm talking specifically, you know Dallas in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Well, watching the San Francisco today, if you just follow
anything that was related to quasi NFL news, it was
like Norad with Brandon Nyuk, only for everybody saying nothing
to see here.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yet Yeah, look, they weaked it up pretty Gary by
not addressing this before the draft. And I know that
they're used to getting their way and getting players to
capitulate to the terms and language and nuance that they
want their contract structures. And they get a lot of
kudos from being really, really smart and they've done a
(20:11):
lot of things well, but like the receivers worth thirty
million dollars a year period, Like I talked to a
GM and a contract negotiator from other teams this weekend.
I'm like, is there anything I'm listening here? Like, no,
I mean, the market is what the market is, and
they couldn't get high enough one value for him during
the draft. What makes them think anything's going to change now?
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I mean, nothing is going to change now. And instead
of them getting assets that they can use in real time,
now it's complicated things. And that's not to say that
there aren't useful players on some of these other rosters
that could come back their way, But I just I
think they strew this up, and I think they got
too cute, and I think they believe that they're a
(20:54):
little smarter than they are and that ultimately people bend
to their will and capitulate, and they're not going to
pay this curtain way dollars and there's three or four
other teams that will. So you're gonna have to do
the best you can on this trade. And at some
point you're, I don't know, in the next couple of
days or certainly the next couple of weeks, like they're
(21:15):
gonna have to admit defeat and admit that it's edition
by subtraction and this kid we drafted better be ready
to go. We still have Debo, we still have Kittle,
and we've got the best running back in the NFL.
And then you know, they've got to make things right
with the left tackle. But like both those guys aren't
called me there, Like, I just have never thought that
(21:35):
they would certainly by the trade deadline, and now I
would say not by week one.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
All right, now you mentioned the Cowboys too, Ceedee Lamb's
holding out, Dak is talking every day about a deal
that could be there.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Does anybody get paid?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Does Jerry Jones pay anybody Jason before the season or
during the season.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
I mean, I can't fathom that the CD Lamb doesn't
get done before the season. You know, I don't know
if I'm Dak, I'm not. I'm not way agree or
anything like I've got you know, the proverbial gun to
their head and I've got the trigger talk and I'm
not splitching. I'm not giving in on anything like I'm
resetting this thing utterly and completely or somebody else will
(22:19):
do that for me. Nine months of them. I mean,
it's it's just as simple as that. I mean, I
don't know where Gerry is in terms of like the
real world or you know, finding Cowboys star that he
lives on where who knows what what what what he
gets for news, Like I don't know what he's consuming.
(22:41):
I don't know what he thinks about the realities of
the NFL, but the gibberis that he's been selling like
nobody in dak cast By, and so I think they're
going to have to pay land. But he's worth and
I don't get the sense that they're willing to do
what it would probably take to get back done. Now.
(23:04):
Running at a time like this is not a deal
that I think it's done in the season. I mean,
if I'm representing the player, I'm telling you go to hell.
If we bill have something of my Week one, you know,
at that point, I'm playing out. He's been hurt before,
it's still got huge money, So they're running out of time.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harmon here live from
the tirerac dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios on the
hotline with us longtime friend of the show, Washington Post
one O five seven the Fan in Baltimore. It's our
buddy Jason lock And for find him on Twitter at
Jason Lockin. For Jason, Let's rewind you Thursday Hall of
Fame game. And now we've got the setup zone and
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the landing zone on kickoffs.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
What do you make of the first generation.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
I'm still confused, guys. I don't know about you, Like,
it still looks like us just like a you know,
a fire drill. To me, it's just it feels very
none football ish to me, Like it almost feels like
a rugby scrum or something before, you know, before we
settle down and get back to sort of what we're
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used to. You know, the every team has a you
know practices that are officiating training camp practices are officiated
by NFL officiating crews, and then they meet with the media,
you know, before adding go over all the new points
of emphasis. So I'll be sitting in on one of
those at Ravens camp tomorrow, and I will be watching
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more attentively than.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
I normally watch these sort of you know, little thirty
minute symposiums because usually it's like some nuance with holding
or this or that, or you know, we're going to
really crack down on something, and then you know, by
week six they're just going.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
To let anything go anyway. Sure, this I don't really know,
Like I guess, the more I see it, the more
I'll probably be wondering, like it's somebody out there ballsy
enough to think didn't crack the code, you know, Like
it would have to be a coach who's not worried
about his job. It'd have to be a coach of
a team that has an offense that they're not worried
about if we do something cute here at backfires. But
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like I almost feel like, like what if the you've
got two guys back there, Like what if one sort
of drifts to his right and draw the whole bunch
of people to whether it throws it back across to
the other guy. Like I don't know, Like I don't
know how creative anybody's willing to get about this. I
don't know, Like I just I don't have a baseline
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for it. Like part of me is like by week eight,
we're all just going to be like, you know what,
I mean, it's a total nothing burger. But there's like
another part of me that like a week eight like
somebody might be doing something that is helping them win games.
I mean, I tend to think it's more of a
nothing burger than not and sort of a last ditch
attempt to save whatever's left or the kickoff, you know,
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and hiding your behind or propping up you know, help
and safety uber Alice. But I guess it's going to
kind of come down to the coaching staff and does
somebody think they found a way to block something up
or throw a rinkle out there that other people aren't
prepared for.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
He's on Twitter or at Jason Locking four That is
at Jason lock and for check him out on Odyssey
one of five seven the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post
Jay as always, Buddy, appreciate it, man, enjoy the games.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
You guys do the same, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You know the thing about the kickoff after seeing for
one game or he's got a chance to digest it,
and of course you know, look, I don't know how
you look at it and say that's great unless you
just want to have a hot take. No, I'll be
the guy that says it's great, okay. Uh is that
this is going to be something where event He's right.
Eventually someone's going to come up with a oh, this
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is how you do it, whether it's kick return or kickoff,
They're going to come up with something where, okay, this
is how you maximize your kick returns. Then the league
is going to have to adjust almost like it's like
it's the version of the Eagles push push, right, Like,
we're going to do this, how do you adjust? Well, okay,
when you when your your linemen come in, they're able
to do some things.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Cracks. So that's what it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Now, I would have to say it's gonna wind up
being the return team that cracks something before the kicking team,
because the kicking team doesn't have a lot of options
unless you have a kicker who can really loft the
ball up and put a lot of weight a lot
of air under it so their players can can get that,
you know. So there, so it gets a little you know,
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even that you can't do anything right, but even where
you can find a way where they can't, where there's
a difficulty in receiving the ball or a difficulty in
them trying to catch the ball, Like that's the tough thing.
Like I'd have to think at some point it would
be a case of all right, now we're just gonna
we're just gonna pooch it down the field. Soccer guy
gets a weird curve on. So yeah, so I well,
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like I said, but I think it's gonna be their
turn team. And okay, if we do this, we catch
the ball here, this wedge is gonna work and we'll
be because if you can free a guy at the thing.
The thing about is that if you can free a
guy like the fifteen twenty yard line, he could be.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
But that's the theory, right, is that it's one line
of defense trying to figure out the rotations to create
a second level, the tertiary level whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like the rugby woman for USA, that that truck that woman.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
You want to steal the football romber failed and got
run over.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
If you can get through the fifteen or twenty yard line,
you have a chance to make a big play. That's
why I think they're gonna crack it first, because they're
gonna see there's I don't know that there's a big
opportunity for a big play if you're kicking off. So
that's why I think it's gonna be. The receiving teams
is okay, if we find a way to crack this,
we can get past the twenty yard line, we have
a chance to go on almost everyone because you're talking
about eight guys are already past the twenty yard you're
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passing eight guys. There's three guys left. So that's gonna
be a real That's where I think if anybody's gonna
crack it, it's gonna be the receiving.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
My gut says it fizzles, because I mean, what's the
punitive effect You start at the thirty that extra five
yard they'll screw that like that.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Like what did we see on Thursday?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
You're gonna start between the twenty five and the thirty
two seems about where you're gonna have on average. Okay,
I'll still kick it out the back of the end zone.
It's not punitive enough. Otherwise, you know, I'll give you
the five yards instead of risking.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
That one man and gone.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Kind of effect, especially if you can find, you know,
that spectacular returner. But I think most of most of all,
it's gonna be a nothing burger. Just it gets the
percentages of touchbacks down a bit. Yay victory, NFL nothing burger.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Time not to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports was special delivery Steve the Seger wide
world because of course, with the Olympics going on, so
many big events global and you probably saw earlier today
one of the more yeoman like efforts in a sporting
event It should have been a day off for the Mets,
but they had to fly to Saint Louis play one
game for makeup before they go back to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And they shut the Cardinals out six nothing.
Speaker 9 (29:52):
And great pitching from Floyd Yeomans.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Yes he was.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Floyd Yeomans was great. He was fantastic. So was Bruce Breni.
He was awesome too.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Manaiah got the win with seven scoreless at Saint Louis,
six nothing, the final ten strikeouts, no walks. Meanwhile, those
White Sox that have lost twenty in a row have
tied it up. It's one to one at Oakland people,
let's go and can I add the Oakland A's do
not have a hit in this game. They got three
walks and a.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Sackfly A's will win two to one while getting no hit.
That's the that's the White Sox.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
But after that six pitch first, we're now in the fourth.
He's up to fifty seven pitches.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
This Sears keeping an eye on this one for other
reasons because in nineteen eighty eight Baltimore started a season
oh and twenty one. That is the American League record streak.
Twenty one White Sox have lost twenty in a row.
They're twenty seven and eighty seven this season, so the
White Sox, as we mentioned on last week's show, on
pace for over one hundred and twenty losses this year,
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which would be the modern record. The Dodgers place reliever
Blake Trining on the injured list with a hip injury.
Dodgers activated pitcher Bruce Dark Gretorol for the first time
this year. Freddy Free is playing first base for La tonight.
He was out for over a week, but his son
is now out of the hospital. The three year old
had eight days in the ICU and as you mentioned
this hour, Freeman getting a huge standing ovation from the
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home crowd when he batted in the first inning. Phillies
and pitcher Aaron Nola leading against the Dodgers and pitcher
Tyler Glass now two nothing in the bottom of the second.
Glass now has five strikeouts in two innings, and it
looked like he would get the Phillies one, two, three
in the top of the second, but Andy Pajez of LA,
who theoretically is a center fielder, played at fly ball
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this should have been the third out, played it into
a triple and the Philly followed with an infield single,
a single to left wild pitch for another run. It
is two nothing fills in the second. Corey Seeger with
four homers in four games now at Texas, he has
tied it up Rangers two to two with Houston. Game
is in the bottom of the ninth inning. Houston is
second place in the AL West game behind idle Seattle
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Red Sox in the ninth League nine to five at
Kansas City, the earlier winners Minnesota. They won five straight,
three nothing the final at the Cubs. The Chiefs gave
kicker Harrison Butker a four year extension. Simone Biles took
the silver medal in the floor exercise final in Paris.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You know, the funny thing is I actually read that
book about a year ago, The Longest Season Story, the
nineteen eighty eight Baltimore Orioles, And you know they started
out Owen twenty one, and two things I remember from
the book. One is that they spent way too much
time outside of the Owen twenty one start, Like this
is what you got to focus on, Like this is
they spent so much time in the rest of the
season and rookies and who came up and I'm.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
Like, this is come on, you guess there is a book?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah? Otherwise who cares?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So they went through And the other thing is I
can't remember anything else about it.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I really that's the other thing I read all the time.
I'm like, oh yeah, what do I remember from that book?
Speaker 9 (32:50):
I read it like a year crack, robinsoning else was ticked.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I remember, not fan. I think cal Ripkins Senior was
the manager. What about want to.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Say the was it DJ that said he was gonna
stay on the air, stay on the roof for something until.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh yeah, yeah there was Oh no, I remember no.
Reagan sent to there was a big deal. Reagan sent
a letter of of of of hope to the Orioles
when they were starting off. It's like Sorrier told him,
you're dolence, you know, the Orioles, but they playing ball.
This is not DC. Yeah, but there's still our area
because remember there was no Nationals there. So I remember
he sent a note of hey, good luck guys. You
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knows any more games?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
So Cal Ripken Senior started the year. He'd gone sixty
seven and ninety five the year before and was replaced.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Oh okay, okay, okay went did they replace him? At
Owen twenty one? They replaced six? Oh it's he only
got through the first six. What a great blanke you
woman from cal Ripkins Senior, like right around lost fifteen
or six and like, look at that thought I was
a problem, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Hey what your kid is on that? But look at
somebody's legs. My fault I Traber Sheets Gerhart, Fred Lynn
Toby Gerhart was on that team. Wow, know that?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Okay, Joe or Selako, I love yours and Eddie Murray
and those guys. Yeah, that's still all ways time I
decided to go deeper down down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
We'll continue to follow this game again one to one
socks in the a's in the fourth. But coming up next,
what big time college football program was just compared to
grand theft auto by one of its former players. That's
next right here, Jason and Mike.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (34:31):
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Speaker 1 (34:31):
The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon
Live from the tirag dot Com Studios we are crossing
our t's and dotting our eyes. And you know when
I say that, it means, oh, something big is coming.
We are crossing our t's and dotting our eyes on
a big NFL story coming up in about ten minutes.
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I made three big Bowl predictions following the NFL Draft. Yeah,
double down on this bowl prediction beginning of the summer.
That looks like I'm about to go one for one.
Looks like the kid Bold prediction streak is just rolling
on twenty three to twenty four, rolling through.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Kid.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Oh, chaos is always a good thing for our industry
as long as it stays in between the white lines.
And in this particular case, it just meant that there
were some meeting rooms where well they couldn't see.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Eye to eye.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Ah, what do you got Frostburg by the Jets trading
back for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Uh don't. That's why we call it a tease, Okay,
just I mean we call it.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
A tech kind of a big deal the Jemy. You
did make that prediction, Okay, I'll tell you what it is.
The Jets are getting Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold back.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
That's the That's the thing no.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Of course not, that's not it. So with Aaron Rodgers.
I mean they're taking their healthy legs and building vultron
or what do we doing.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Some people heard me say that and go, oh I
could see the Jets doing that. Oh yeah, yeah, I
not that far out of the rom Aposta. I like
the tape they saw from Minnesota Hu and there you go,
and it involves a big trade and a player who
has wanted a trade for quite a long time. However,
again that's ten minutes away. It's again, we're crossing our tan.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Today.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
And this is just I mean, when you see this headline,
you go wow, really Athlon Sports and the New York
Posts had this story today. I only thought they did
magazine that Yeah, the big the Biggest foot comes out
in April. Yeah, that comes out like eight months before
all long before any of the transfer portals.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Depending on what the Steelers could do. In the Drafted
hip report from Athlon Sports and again and it's on
the New York Post as well, talked about how the
program culture surrounding Dion Sanders team in Colorado has allowed
violence to run rampant in the locker room. According to
a former player, quote It's like a real life Grand
(36:57):
Theft auto video game. There are many diractions with fights,
guns and money floating around.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Send lawyers, guns and money.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh, that's lawyers, guns and money. This is You don't
think there's lawyers involved. No, you'd really think there's lawyers involved.
I think so in the background, fights, guns and money.
If this is really happening, then the lawyers will get involved.
You've seen the billboards. One specific in since acording of
the report involved Shiloh Sanders, one of Dion's kids, and
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five star recruit Carmani Maclain, who has since transferred. They
got into a big altercation late in the twenty twenty
three season. Shiloh apparently slapped him several times. Cormani is screaming,
I'm gonna kill you. Quote after that, you could tell
Carmani wasn't mentally there. It's hard when the coaches you
trust are calling you derogatory names on the practice field.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Now, since Shiloh already lost at eleven point eight million dollars, judgment, bankruptcy,
whatever else.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
What happens.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Look the big thing about the opposite. I'm just thinking
about Grand Theft. Daughto Colorado. Buffalo's right Grand Theft Auto
San Andreas, Grand Theft Auto Colorado, Buffalo, mean get a
sponsorship field, I mean Grand the Grand Theft Auto Boulder
with Dion on the cover right with the sunglasses, or
that's what this? Oh look, well, well this is something
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that's come out from players who have transferred. You're gonna
get the back and forth of did this happen? Dion's
gonna say, nobody is still here that wants to be here.
These are all guys that should have left. This is
where we're at right now. The conversation with Colorado and
Deon Sanders has has now changed and we're asked and
the wrong and now we have to ask a new
question and forget about the old question. The old question was, boy,
(38:35):
how long until Dion wins in Colorado? And boy, what
a big thing that's gonna be? Right because he owned
college football in the entire sports world in September of
last year. Then they didn't win a game, and now
it's okay, now another season. He's got more players in boy,
if he wins, he is the rock star head coach
in college football. But the question used to be, oh, boy,
how long untill he wins?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Can he win? This year.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
That changes now to how much longer is this really
gonna happen? How how much longer is Dion really going
to be coaching at Colorado before either it blows up
and he leaves, or or he gets let go, or
maybe he has a big year and he wins and
he goes someplace else, Like this is not something that's sustainable, right,
Like like what went on last September wasn't sustainable because
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you eventually got to play a whole season, But this
whole culture and everything we're seeing this is not sustainable.
I don't know how Dion, the Dion era in Colorado
is sustainable. And in a few years it's a thirty
for thirty. This is the wild stuff that happened. You
don't know the tip of it. You know the tip
of the iceberger what went on in Colorado? One's Dion
walked in like.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Is it one more year?
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Shador and Shiloh leaving and then Dion's gone, Like I
would say, you put me the over under. I would say,
after this year, Dion's not going to be a.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Guy said that last year that would going to be
his kids and Travis Hunter leave and that's the end
of it, get them as well placed into the NFL
and helps steer things if possible. Right, We've actually had
that conversation during the off season of trying to get
to the Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Raiders or whatever the case. Maybe you know Lebron that
stuff as it was termed.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
But yeah, I mean, look, I have no doubt that
you've got locker rooms all over the country where there's
some level of chaos and in just a different way
of doing business and Dion doing big speeches that go
out and become viral sensations of hey, let's act like
the guy's making two hundred and thirty million dollars, right
(40:25):
in terms of don't touch the quarterback, don't do this,
you know, act like we're on that next level. We
gotta protect him, which, yeah, you should protect your starting quarterback.
I agree with that, but it goes into a larger
thing of you're still playing for this year and in
this moment that it's not. Let's look to the NFL
and if half of this is true, then you've got
(40:45):
a culture that's not sustainable.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Whether he's there or not. I mean, I really I
think this year and that's going to be it. He's
got to go. He's got to go eleven and one. Well,
the magnifying guy, and they get some tough games right
out of the jump.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That big NFL story coming up next absolutely his standing
ovation when he comes up to bad it was awesome.
Dodgers now lit up the Phillies for four runs. Here
Aaron Nola getting taken deep just a few moments ago.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Now like law no, no no.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
So while we have this big matchup between the nl
wes and n least division leaders, we have a big
NFL story that could see its conclusion coming up anytime now.
It was just after the draft when the ridiculousness started
with Brandon Ayuk in the forty nine is where I
told you the Niners are going to wind up trading it.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I got proof. I just quote tweeted it, put it
back on Twitter. Right after the draft. I said, he
wants out. Yeah, the Niners are not going to pay him.
He's going to get paid by somebody. He wants well
that they.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Were going to have to make a choice, right, it
was going to be one or the other.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
You had the Instagram, the conversation that was put up
on social media by his girlfriend, and Ayuk has pushed
to make this happen. He made this situation combative. I'm
sure sure the forty nine ers came out of the
draft saying, okay, well, we drafted Piersol we love him,
he's really good.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Eh, if we can.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Squeeze one more year out of Ayuk, and Debo and
Kittle and pearsall, hey, awesome. But they know we're gonna
have to trade Brandon Ayuk at some point. Now, whether
it was a fool's erron thinking we can do it,
but they knew at some point. Okay, maybe we squeezed
through this year and don't have to trade him until
next year. But if we have to trade him, we
know it's coming. And when you make it combative, and
(42:29):
we know stars, when stars want trades, they wind up
getting taken care of.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Well.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
According to Mary kay Cabin, longtime Brown's inside, the entire
time I've been at my radio careers's been a Brown's outsider.
And now other sources picking this up as well. There
is a framework for a trade on the table between
the San Francisco forty nine Ers and two teams. The
Niners have worked out a deal with two teams for
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Brandon Ayuk. The compensation has been agreed upon, the salary
has been quote agreed upon, and now Ayuk has to
choose does he want one of these deals? You think
I'm gonna say the Pittsburgh Steelers, That is not happening.
According to reports, the Steelers are out of the Brandon
Ayuk running. They seem close earlier today, but according to
(43:17):
these late reports, the Niners just asked for too much.
Like what do they ask for, Russell Wilson, I mean,
come on, So they asked for too much. So the
Steelers are out. So right now, there is a framework
for two deals in place between the forty nine Ers
and the New York between the forty nine Ers and
the Cleveland Browns and the forty nine Ers and the
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New England Patriots. So they have deals together with both
of these teams. And now the ball is in Ayuke's court. Okay,
do you want either of these deals? Which one do
you want? Which team would you rather pick? And we
may get a resolution to this anytime again. Mary kay Cabot,
longtime Browns insider, that's getting picked up by a lot
of other outlets here that that's what's happening at this
(44:01):
hour right now with Brandon Ayuk, who has wanted to
be traded because he wants to get paid. He wants
a big contract. He's the next guy to get paid.
Someone's gonna give him thirty million dollars a year. He's
not going to play for the forty nine Ers unless
he was getting it. And now the Niners seemed like
to have capitulated and said, okay, this is past the
point of no return and now we have to trade him,
which I said was going to happen after the time, but.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
That was going to be the push, right.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
It was either gonna be Ayuk or it was gonna
be Deebo Samuel, And given Debo's usage and injury history,
becomes a much more difficult proposition when you look at
Ayuk and what he could still be. Evidently didn't want
to meet the thirty million dollars or whatever the asking
price was in terms of contracts. So now we get
into the trade. The Mary kay cabot is interesting because
(44:45):
in order to make it work, it seems Amari Cooper
would have to come back to the forty nine Ers,
or if it's the Patriots, then Kendrick Bourne the board
identity make your jokes, it would be coming back, uh
and forge himself well a new.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Identity in San Francisco. Shut it out, Zack. It just
worked really well right there, but he would be part
of the deal.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
So Washington evidently was in for a while and they
backed out Pittsburgh, which we saw how many falls starts today?
How many times did you refresh to see somebody else?
Speaker 6 (45:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Yeah, sure, reporting Hey, Mike. I joked with Jason locking
Ford it was like a nor Ad Santa Claus.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Kind of thing. He's like, where's he yet?
Speaker 5 (45:24):
Now?
Speaker 4 (45:25):
But evidently that goes to the wayside, and now it
becomes the do you go to Deshaun Watson or do
you head over to become the number one for whoever
wins the sweep stakes in a rebuilt New England Patriots squad. Now,
before you get to that, first things first, like, because
you would you would think if you're choosing between.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Ayuk and Debo, you would choose Ayuk. Deebo is breaking
down a little bit. Uh, he's more of a gadget player. However,
according to you know and everything I've read about Debo
so far, this this summer is Deebo's come to camp.
He's put his head down he's working hard and that
was a big thing, right, So, Hey, I want to stay.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
I want to be here.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I got one guy who doesn't want to be here
and is putting out message on social media. If I'm
the guy that shows up and does my job, are
they really gonna trade me? But especially Okay, maybe this
is a little bit of just we feel better about
it because no team wants Deebo Samuel over Brandon.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Brandon Huk's a better player.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Well, I think if I were, if I were missing
that one piece, right, if I were a team that's
in contention with Deebo for one year, one to two years,
that's all I'm looking for for a guy that's as
a runner, as a receiver, you can kick him in
the return games like you can do a lot with
a Deebo Samuel. But I don't think his values anywhere
(46:44):
close to what it is to San Francisco. And I
think there's some of that realization for him for his
career of what he is in that offense surrounded by
that amount of talent that Shanahan knows how to use
him properly. So yeah, you're gonna put your best foot
forward to make sure you're not the guy whose name
gets called.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I would hear you on debo if he just hasn't
sort of fallen off a cliff since his big year
in twenty twenty one, right when in twenty twenty one
he's phenomenal, Right, fourteen hundred yards, receiving seventy seven catches,
He's still the big running threat. But then it was, yeah,
I don't know that I want to run the football
that much anymore. I want to do different things. Yeah,
you put me out there.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, I don't know. And in the last couple of years,
you know, he's been a jag. Wow, but you've also
had the last two years.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
But you've also had six guys to choose from, and
you can use him as a decoy quite a bit
to change up defensive schemes.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yea more so than you do with Ayu.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
But that's someone you trot him out there and go
good luck. All right, Hey, now you have to really
roll coverage just towards him. And Ayukas is a fantastic playbook.
He did you know, he did quit on that big
route in the Super Bowl that that turned into a
big play that maybe the Niners could have wound up winning.
But it's just first thing is it's difficult for me
to sit here and go, Wow, you're the forty nine ers.
But you feel better about keeping Debo because he seems
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like he's more with the program. Ayuk was just going
to be make things difficult, right, he was just going
to make things difficult. His contract situation was always going
to be a problem. So you knew you had to
move them so and.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
They did right.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Like I said, it was we'll try to get through
this year, but we can't and we're gonna wind up
moving them again. I told you in April. Now here's
here's a statement that would not have been would not
have made sense for basically two thousand up until like
last year. But if you want to win, you go
to the Browns instead of the Patriots. Like, that's a
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statement from two thousand through twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
You're like, what are you in?
Speaker 6 (48:37):
Said?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
What the hell is wrong with you? No, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Now if you want to win, you go to the
Browns and not the Patriots, not because the Watson football,
but you still have a you have a much better
team with a great defensive bottom. Yeah, and I'll look
at Hub's returning. Yeah, You've got a lot there, and it's.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Not like you don't have options a quarterback. You know
they're gonna make you know.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Look they and they came in and said, Okay, if
something has with to Shawn, Joel's not there anymore, you
can pull the trigger on him. You're talking about a
much better football team, a team that won left with
horrible quarterback play, and then they got Joe Flacco. They
dusted them off. They started four guys last year and
the Browns still won. Like this is I mean, that's unbelievable.
You think about that, that's like, that's real coach of
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the year. So how do you win with four quarterbacks?
How do you have that kind of a season? Great defense?
And remember you lost Chubb at started. I mean you lost,
you lost your counterbacks together, and you lost your best
offensive player. The Browns are loaded. The Browns are loaded.
The Patriots. This is where you want to go. The
Patriots have no idea who their starting quarterback is going
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to be. You have no idea if Drake May is
any good. Like, look I told your from the beginning.
The Patriots felt they got push into taking Drake May,
like we're drafting third overall the first two guys got drafted. Uh, okay,
we'll take a quarterback because we're drafting number three, and
who knows when that's gonna happen again. Right now, Drake
May is not close to the starting job Jacoby Brissett
as the starter. You're hearing Joe Milton, you know his.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Name, throw We liked him as a late round sleeper,
right situation, right coaching staff, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
That's a little that's a little much, I think to
say all of a sudden, Joe Milton's But you have
other guys in the mix. You're not hearing Drake May's name,
and you don't know if he's really gonna be any good.
So if you're ayuk, you're gonna go somewhere you can say, Okay,
I'm gonna spend the prime, the last of the prime
years of my career when I'm putting my ball. I'm
gonna get paid either place, but I'm putting my body
on the line in Iowa because all football players want
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to win, regardless of what you think about it, all
football they want to get paid and they all want
to win.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Could you put your body if you get to be
the missing piece?
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Right?
Speaker 4 (50:41):
When when it becomes a hey, this was what put
us over, because that's what this Ayuk move would be.
Right if Cleveland goes on to do great things. Now again,
it means there's consistency at QB, and I'll believe that
when I see it. But for the sake of this argument,
let's let's do it that. If they do win, it's
gonna be a lot about Ayuk, because who the hell's
given a lot of credit to to Sean Watson, Yeah, no,
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nobody is. But you're gonna shy away from that. So
so if you're AU, not only do you win, but
you're the guy that was seen as the missing piece.
So the ego, uh ego gets even larger because you
got the big dollars to say you were wanted and
you were the missing piece to a team that went.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
On a run. Yeah, and and and for all. Like
I said, he's getting paid either place. So you want
to win.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Like I said, the NFL, what they put their bodies through,
you can't say they go out every Sunday and don't
want to win. It's why players can't tank. It's why
they all go out there and they all bust their
ass to try to win because that's what you, that's you.
That's what football players do. That's why everybody loves the
NFL so much. Right, one of those things you don't
really think about, but kind of it just kind of
floats around. Oh yeah, okay, I got.
Speaker 4 (51:44):
The bigger thing is that you gotta put on good
tape so you can get another contract because they're guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Oh yeah, but right.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
If if, if you're gonna go someplace and you think, Okay,
what's my best place to win in the next three years?
I don't mean five, the next three years, who's got
there to the are bleeping starting over. Man, they're gonna
be looking up at the Jets and the Bills and
the Dolphins. You don't know how the quarterback petition is
going to go. You don't know what kind of head
coach you have. You think maybe you have a good
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head coach, but I have no idea. I know you're
going to a great head coach with the Browns are
great head coach. But all the stuff with the Browns
and the choosing of Deshaun Watson, throw that to the side.
I know what you're getting in Cleveland. You are getting
a phenomenal head coach in Stefanski. You are getting a
phenomenal team. You're getting a team that has figured out away. Hey,
we segued away from Baker Mayfield. We've gotten horrible play
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from a guy we guaranteed two hundred and fifty million dollars. Too,
We're still winning football games. That's where I want to go.
If those are the choices, It's Cleveland over I never
thought i'd say that, and for twenty years I'd just
sounded like an idiot, But now I sound like the
smartest guy in the world.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
You are taking Cleveland over New England.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
Nah, this one becomes a Hey, captain obvious unless you
just want to be linked to Tom Brady of you're
playing for a team he wants played Foh no, maybe
maybe they'll convince that would be the only thing.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
No, Brady's still the quarterback here.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
They have like one of those cutouts of him, like
with a sub Why does he have a subway sandwich? No,
that's Tom, that's Tom right there. He's fine, that's Tom.
He's gonna play a little bit. Watch watch him throw,
Like they pull back the arm on the on the
sandwich cut and push the ball out.
Speaker 6 (53:16):
You go.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
No, he's still the guy, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
We'll be curious is to see what the gap was
with Pittsburgh because that's a team that I'm I'm mighty
intrigued about. The quarterback position still a giant question Mark
might as well have the Riddler suit on that and
in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
But the rest of the roster pretty strong. But it's
for Ayuk.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
Yeah, in terms of making that choice, if the choice
is legitimately yours, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Again, we'll have more on this story coming up again.
The framework in place for a trade from Brandon Ayuk
to both the Browns and the four and the New
England Patriots, and now it's up to Ayuk if this
is a trade he wants, and we'll continue to follow
the story as the night goes on.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
How many times do you think Tysher would have hit
the Cleveland button?
Speaker 6 (53:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (53:57):
A thousand?
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Luckily Mary mack filling in tonight we would be hearing
running up that hill because it's like what the thirty
ninth anniversary of us put that out? No, no, no,
Mary knows, Mary knows, she knows. That's not how she
Marry knows.
Speaker 6 (54:07):
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It's glorious because the Mets have already won and we
get to watch your White Sox go for lost number
twenty one year.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh they're already losing.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, I mean, look, he came out strong, allowed Sears
to mow them down on six pitches in the first.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, that's six pitch top of the first is it's
gonna keep him in if he has that no hitter
all the way to the end, his pitch counted for
not going to be high enough to take him out.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Highly advantageous there.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
And then you get Kyle Busch comes in in his
major league debut and gives up a seven pitch walk
to the first hitter he faced. But we also had
some Olympic coverage and they were doing a third place
for shooting. Yeah, and the guy looked like a well
quaffed Iowa Sam Okay, like he was from Germany and
they were doing a shoot off and if he if
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Sam got a haircut, he kind of looked like that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And I was just participating in the Olympics. That's great.
Let let's let's stick on the white Sox.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Here be no I have to I have to get
it away twenty you're going for twenty one, and it's
one nothing already trying to match from way back in
the yesteryear when they started the season. Oh in twenty one.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
This game in front of friends and family, there's like
eighteen people there, like I would expect I've expected more
people here for okle like this, Hey, we're.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Gonna dominate this. They are heavy favorites tonight. I forget
what the year was, but I saw it early this morning.
It just went, yeah, that sounds about right, almost a
minus two hundred favorite. But they did an We were
watching the pregame and they had the over the aerial shot, like,
why would you show that, Like we know it's going
to be a sparse crowd. Why why are you pulling
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back the curtain. There's like eight people there. Okay, hey
there's John in section three oh five.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But if you show the close up shots of no seats,
it's easy. No shots of no seats. If you have
bad vision, they're banking on half people. They probably can't see,
but you'll fool them because it's full behind home plate. Everybody,
come on down, all pack it in all twelve seats
behind home plate in Oakland Coliseum. Already there you can see.
(02:51):
That's all good.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Spent many a day in the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I never saw possum. I saw some other rodents, but
you know, possum be coming out of the bullpen tonight
could be.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You never know.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Hey, now this guy's gonna work on a low pitch count,
so he's gonna expend.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
If the A's are winning this game, you're gonna get
to face position players. The A's aren't gonna waste actual
pictures against this line.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Get through this series. How about it? The best graphic
we saw in the pregame though?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What was it?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, when the when the when they show that we're
watching the.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
White Sox broadcast, right, and Harmon and I are just
going crazy over the White Sox broadcast. And they showed
the lineup, the starting lineup of the team, which you know,
which they do all the time, which you say, here's
your starting lineup tonight, and normally you see the player's
name and then their batting average. Sometimes you get home
runs and and and uh and RBIs, but you used
to get you get the batting average. And you know,
(03:43):
because it would look really bad for the White Sox
because they don't have any good players, they decide to
show here's what everybody's ops is against left handed hitters.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So it's not even in general against left handed hitters,
because here's the handed pictures.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The White Sox starting lineup tonight. There is nobody hitting
over two thirty five and that's bleep and depressing.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So they say, hey, they probably in the pre show meeting.
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Man, people just want to tune out when they se
everbody hitting other two thirty five. Hey, let's just show
what their OPS is. And it's not like the OPS
is a great When you see six fifty four, you think, oh,
that's got to be good.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
No, six fifty four is a bad.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
But that's the problem is there were multiple players in
the White Sox starting lineup that had an OPS lower
than two thirty five.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's where we're at, I mean baseball. Yeah, at this point,
just put the names. Just put the names and where
they're from. That's you do, instead of just the names
where they're from and like some kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Random fact about that's.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, hey, you know here's here is the only likes
red jelly Bean, Luis Robert batting third. He's from uh
Des Moines, Iowa. And the factory really really wants to
be traded like like that. He was really good several
years ago. Sure was once the future. Now untradable. Andrew
Andrew Benattendee. Uh you know the left field from Brooklyn,
(05:03):
New York. Yes, this is the same guy from the
Red Sox, you know, as you.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Do, no, And I was telling you about the tales,
the sad tale of Ozzie Gehan who wanted to go
back and manage his former team and was passed over
for Pedro Griffall, who's now over one hundred games.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Ozzy's a lucky one under one under five hundred.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
This is but Ozzie was having like a bit of
a breakdown in relaying this to Frank Thomas and the host,
saying they chose this guy over me.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, how do you think I feel?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You don't want to partner, but you don't think he
would have been doing this. This is like in the
office when when Dwight was going to be the vice
president and Robert California said I'm tanking it and Jim said, Dwight,
don't go. So Todd Packer took over his vice president
and he got fired. And Dwight's like, oh, dodge the
bullet there. Okay, that's exactly what he got.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, but maybe Ozzy wouldn't, or at least in his
miland he thinks he would have gotten different results.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You are you are looking up at what could be
twenty one losses in a row.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Once upon a.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Time it was twenty seven and seventy two, and it
was Carlton Fisk Knight.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, now it's key.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I'm telling you're gonna be twenty seven and Aaron judgeson
twenty seven. How long till twenty seven and ninety twenty seven?
And Judge, now you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait.
Was Brian Lawton eighty nine or ninety eight, ninety eight?
He was with the North Start.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I would say this, so one thing in that battery,
if anything could cool off Aaron Judge, it would be
a night with Carlton Fisk behind the plate because you
could never get into a rhythm at the plate because
he was gonna stand up and adjust his crotch and
then squat back down, say no, that's not right, get
back up, do it again, and stare you in the
eye the whole time.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Right now, your record is Carlton Fisk and Eric Decker.
Oh good, lose tonight you're Carlton Fiske and Michael Irvin.
So that's where you are. Then eighty eight yo, then
you'd be Carlton Fisk and Billy Joe Dupree.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Then we get to ninety boy, we get Julius Peppers
just went in and then you did. Okay, that's fine, mareshit.
That was the only thing that gave he solace this weekend.
Jordan's showed up for Julius Peppers.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, McMichael got in, which again long overdue, and Devin
Hester walked in after. You know, we saw the first
generation of whatever that new kickoff is. But either way,
I got three bears in the Hall of Fame. Light
is good. Mike was good for that day.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
My friend the Jason Spencer with Mike Carmon live from
the Tirech dot Com studios. We'll lot more baseball on
the way. And of course keeping track of this game
is you know the White Socks could go to Carlton
Fisk and Michael.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, laugh it up at my expense. That's slowing Dome
get him coming in.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
But we got Jason locking Forest stop and buy in
a few minutes. We had the first big brawl of
training camp because the Steelers one the other day was
just hey, Justin Field's running in.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That's great. But you had the first brawl.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Today in a joint practice between the Giants and the Lions,
and it was partly incited by Daniel Jones. This is
the big viral headline today because he decides, hey, I'm
gonna win there, because you know, you had one of
the linemen getting up pretty slow off off one of
his offensive line. He decides, I'm gonna go in there
and make sure that they don't do this. Of course,
it's hot because it's ninety eight bleeping degrees and they're
(08:10):
playing and uh, little brawl breaks out. Daniel Jones in
the middle of it, inciting it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Says, a situation happens like that, you try to stand
up for your guys. Yeah, now that's a guy who's
trying to win the locker room.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I will tell you this. Why did Daniel Jones do Why?
Why did Daniel Jones do that? I'll tell you why.
Because there is no one in the NFL who had
a worse off season than Daniel Jones. Why because the
Giants could have gone after quarterback and they didn't. All right, Well,
(08:47):
because they paid a lot of money to Daniel Jones. Okay,
he's got one chance to figure it out, all right,
that's fine. Daniel Jones is coming back. The Giants are
sort of storting over it, all right. But this is
where I say I was wrong. I was wrong in
the impact that the off season Hard Knock Show had
on me and on the sports world. Who's gonna carrot
(09:08):
the Giants? They're so bleep and boring. What the hell
are they gonna say?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But the two biggest things that you took away from
this Hard Knocks the offseason with the Giants is one boy,
come on, man, Saquon Barkley, that treating them like they
were letting Walter Payton go. I mean just stop for
a second, okay, like one Barklay. The other thing is
everybody hates Daniel Jones. They can't wait to get rid
of them. They can't wait to replace him. Joe Shane's
kid is throwing shade at Daniel Jones while he's in
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his office.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Only you draft.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You just watched that entire Hard Knocks and you could
tell every single person the organizations like, we have to
get rid of this guy. We have to move on
from Daniels. Now, why you wouldn't draft a quarterback or
figured it out early in the season.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You should do, especially aren't coming off of multiple injuries.
No matter what you paid him, that's so cost at
this point, do you think you would have taken care
of that.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But you know the Giants, they do things differently, and
I'm sure they thought, well, we don't like the guys
we could take. What are we gonna do take Drake
May look at the guy, what are we gonna do?
So no, no, let's just wait. Let's just wait and
whatever happens this year. If Daniel Jones is really good, Okay,
we got a quarterback. We're already paying he's got two
more years left on his deal. If not, then we'll
really make a push in the offseason to go after
(10:19):
a guy. We're paying him too much money. Now, we
couldn't go out and gainst it. We didn't like the
guys to get in the draft, whatever it was. So
do I like the strategy? No, because Daniel Jones stinks.
There's only one problem with him. He stinks. It's only
one problem. That's the only problem with Daniel Jones. He stinks.
And so he had the worst off season of anybody
because all he did was watch his team on TV
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every week in when the coaches, the general manager, the
GM's kid. I'm sure the GM kids friends was texting
them about stuff that they don't want you. They really want.
They're hoping that you fail at some point so they
can play Tommy Cutltz for a little while and then
say this is great. He'll go appear in another couple
of Italian rests on in New Jersey. Bottle of White,
(11:02):
bottle of red. Yeah, Tommy Cullins is great, and then
we'll go get our guy in the off season. Like
I'm not saying they're hoping he fails, but it's like
they're expecting it. They're prepared for the outcome. They don't
think there's any other outcome other than Daniel Jones is
gonna stink and now we got to move on next year.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Now, the other thing that comes out of this, and
I don't think Jones is the biggest loser of all
this because I think your GM and your coach they
both showed their asses and they both should have been
fired as soon as this stuff started to air.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Well, you gotta give hard Knock something.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I mean, it's giants, but it shows their level of
ineptitude and their inability to read a room and.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
The recognition that the damn red light is on and
what you're saying is gonna go out to a.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Broadcast if the combination of Giants general manager is Joe
Shane and his kid.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I feel pretty good. No, no, But if the kid's
making the decisions, then maybe you got a shot. But
you're not paying the kid.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's fine. Kid comes along with Shane. But if Joe
Shane's overruling him and that together, you know, it doesn't matter.
If he's as you're gonna take the kids input. Yeah,
who actually studied? It seemed the drafted what may have
been done on TV dead versus Brian Dables salivating. I
know he lost a bunch of weight, but he's salivating
(12:15):
over these other quarterbacks. Okay, how about your brain trust
gets in a damn room and figures out how to
go and either improve the position or recognize Oh wait,
we signed this guy. How do we coach him up,
get players around him and make it better? Oh wait,
we let that running back go over to Philadelphia, but
we had him trying to pinky promise that he was
(12:36):
gonna call us back if he got another offer.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Really, that's what you put out? So yeah, they're worse.
He's on the metal stand, but he's a distant third.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Daniel Jones worst off season in the end.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Shane Table dable only get second because he lost some
weight and he looks like he added some life to him.
The problem is he still showed bad decision making time
and time again. Well, he wasn't eating as much, so
ma's probably a little loopy when you don't.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
But you gotta keep the blood sugar rise. Understand that
when you're watching game.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Table, say, oh man, I could go after that quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That would be great. You ready for your interview with
Hard Knocks. The crew as Yeah, I gotta have a
sandwich first thing on it. Somebody go get me a sandwich.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
You know it.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
It's really bad last week's episode. I gotta make sure
up regulated and I hope he's great and whatever. But
from a coaching and GM position, the two those two
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The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon
live from the tyrack dot com studios. We got Jason
lockin Ford coming you right in a second. But just
a really cool moment to tell you about right now.
Freddie Freeman back in the Dodgers lineup for the first time.
His son Max is in the hospital for a long
time now doing better, discharged. Freddie Freeman back in the
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Dodgers lineup at home, getting a standing ovation right now
as he bats with two outs on the top of
the first inning, Freddie Freeman, having a tough time keeping
it together, took his helmet off. They are still standing
and clapping for him as he makes his return of
the Dodgers' lineup. The Phillies all have their hats off
in the field for him as well. Just a really
really cool moment right now. We'll keep you updated on this.
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Phillies and the Dodgers. Nothing. Nothing in the bottom of
the first inning, but we are in the full swing
of training camp. The Giants and Lions nearly getting a brawl.
Daniel Jones is standing up for himself. Aaron Jones looks great.
Aaron Rodgers looks great, but he's salty, I'm sure. Aaron
Jones looks great as well.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
He did look pretty good in the clips that I've
seen with us.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Now on the hotline to break it all down. Nobody better.
Long time friend of the show. Find him on Odyssey
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It is Jason locking for it, j Low. What's happening, Bud?
Speaker 6 (16:06):
This is pretty I'm watching. This is pretty your most
here man. This is not your normal sort of clicking knowledgement.
Oh for Freddie Freeman, what a good dude. Thankfully hopefully
it looks like everything's going to be all right there,
which is so but wow, wow, wow, Yeah, there was like.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
A minute ovation for you had to step out of
the batter's box.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Yeah, several times found his chest and yeah, holy moly.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So we'll keep you update on this great moment right
here between the Phillies and the Dodge. Now they're showing
pictures of Freddy with his family and now his kid
is doing better, which is such an awesome, awesome thing.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Now, as Fary, well, first of all, before you get
to football, I know every day I want to check
and make sure we are in your Orioles meter, how
happy or or unhappy you are?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Where are you today?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Because last week you were about at a two as
far as your level of happiness?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Yeah, I mean, I wish they actually got somebody who
could help the Kias and Knights and he gets the deadline,
because that's kind of I think, you know, pretty important
in October baseball, at least as far as I can tell.
But they, you know, to split that series with the Guardians,
So they showed a lot of moxie and fight the
last two games. But I do believe they have some
October flaws, but hopefully they can overcome them.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
All right, So now with football, we get to, uh,
what's the What's what's one of the big storylines that
stood out for you over the first few days of camp.
You're like, Wow, this is something I'm gonna want to
follow over the course of the next month.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
I mean, I can't get too caught up at anything
anybody does a practice, you know, Like I just I'm
pumctuble for that stuff. You know, I just I can't
get there. So you know, this guy looking good and
that guy looking good doesn't do a whole lot for me.
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Is it the quarterback? Whatout the quarterback battles?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like any of those we have four or five teams
that have them right now.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
No, I feel like I kind of know where most
of those are going to go, you know, pending somebody
completely peeing down their leg, Like at least I think
I know they're where the lead is, you know, all
things being remotely equal, which way they're probably going to lead.
I think a couple will go veteran, and I think
a couple are going to want to see what they
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have all the way through with their kids, because especially
like I don't know, Denver could very well be picking
you know, even higher than they did a year ago,
perhaps significantly higher, in which case, you know, we're talking
about quarterbacks, weep say. I mean, it's sort of like
who's getting their house in order and who's not. You know, like, Okay,
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Miami checks some boxes. Are they going to regret them? Maybe,
but like they did what they sort of had to do.
You know. Then you've got a couple of other situations
where things are festering and things are smoldering, and we'll
just kind of over like everybody moving into regular season
mode here, you know, and you're getting days off before
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games and days off after games, and guess what, the
Vets don't play in the games anymore either, So we're
kind of down to like two or three day work weeks,
which is you know, playing practice in the regular season.
So somebody hold, is you know, some of these contractual loggerheads,
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we're getting to a point now where you know it
doesn't matter, and like, I just don't think it's going
to end well for some of these teams. And then
I'm talking specifically, you know Dallas in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Well, watching the San Francisco today, if you just follow
anything that was related to quasi NFL news, it was
like Norad with Brandon Nyuk, only for everybody saying nothing
to see here.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yet Yeah, look, they weaked it up pretty Gary by
not addressing this before the draft. And I know that
they're used to getting their way and getting players to
capitulate to the terms and language and nuance that they
want their contract structures. And they get a lot of
kudos from being really, really smart and they've done a
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lot of things well, but like the receivers worth thirty
million dollars a year period, Like I talked to a
GM and a contract negotiator from other teams this weekend.
I'm like, is there anything I'm listening here? Like, no,
I mean, the market is what the market is, and
they couldn't get high enough one value for him during
the draft. What makes them think anything's going to change now?
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I mean, nothing is going to change now. And instead
of them getting assets that they can use in real time,
now it's complicated things. And that's not to say that
there aren't useful players on some of these other rosters
that could come back their way, But I just I
think they strew this up, and I think they got
too cute, and I think they believe that they're a
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little smarter than they are and that ultimately people bend
to their will and capitulate, and they're not going to
pay this curtain way dollars and there's three or four
other teams that will. So you're gonna have to do
the best you can on this trade. And at some
point you're, I don't know, in the next couple of
days or certainly the next couple of weeks, like they're
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gonna have to admit defeat and admit that it's edition
by subtraction and this kid we drafted better be ready
to go. We still have Debo, we still have Kittle,
and we've got the best running back in the NFL.
And then you know, they've got to make things right
with the left tackle. But like both those guys aren't
called me there, Like, I just have never thought that
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they would certainly by the trade deadline, and now I
would say not by week one.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
All right, now you mentioned the Cowboys too, Ceedee Lamb's
holding out, Dak is talking every day about a deal
that could be there.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Does anybody get paid?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Does Jerry Jones pay anybody Jason before the season or
during the season.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
I mean, I can't fathom that the CD Lamb doesn't
get done before the season. You know, I don't know
if I'm Dak, I'm not. I'm not way agree or
anything like I've got you know, the proverbial gun to
their head and I've got the trigger talk and I'm
not splitching. I'm not giving in on anything like I'm
resetting this thing utterly and completely or somebody else will
(22:19):
do that for me. Nine months of them. I mean,
it's it's just as simple as that. I mean, I
don't know where Gerry is in terms of like the
real world or you know, finding Cowboys star that he
lives on where who knows what what what what he
gets for news, Like I don't know what he's consuming.
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I don't know what he thinks about the realities of
the NFL, but the gibberis that he's been selling like
nobody in dak cast By, and so I think they're
going to have to pay land. But he's worth and
I don't get the sense that they're willing to do
what it would probably take to get back done. Now.
(23:04):
Running at a time like this is not a deal
that I think it's done in the season. I mean,
if I'm representing the player, I'm telling you go to hell.
If we bill have something of my Week one, you know,
at that point, I'm playing out. He's been hurt before,
it's still got huge money, So they're running out of time.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harmon here live from
the tirerac dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios on the
hotline with us longtime friend of the show, Washington Post
one O five seven the Fan in Baltimore. It's our
buddy Jason lock And for find him on Twitter at
Jason Lockin. For Jason, Let's rewind you Thursday Hall of
Fame game. And now we've got the setup zone and
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the landing zone on kickoffs.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
What do you make of the first generation.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
I'm still confused, guys. I don't know about you, Like,
it still looks like us just like a you know,
a fire drill. To me, it's just it feels very
none football ish to me, Like it almost feels like
a rugby scrum or something before, you know, before we
settle down and get back to sort of what we're
(24:12):
used to. You know, the every team has a you
know practices that are officiating training camp practices are officiated
by NFL officiating crews, and then they meet with the media,
you know, before adding go over all the new points
of emphasis. So I'll be sitting in on one of
those at Ravens camp tomorrow, and I will be watching
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more attentively than.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
I normally watch these sort of you know, little thirty
minute symposiums because usually it's like some nuance with holding
or this or that, or you know, we're going to
really crack down on something, and then you know, by
week six they're just going.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
To let anything go anyway. Sure, this I don't really know,
Like I guess, the more I see it, the more
I'll probably be wondering, like it's somebody out there ballsy
enough to think didn't crack the code, you know, Like
it would have to be a coach who's not worried
about his job. It'd have to be a coach of
a team that has an offense that they're not worried
about if we do something cute here at backfires. But
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like I almost feel like, like what if the you've
got two guys back there, Like what if one sort
of drifts to his right and draw the whole bunch
of people to whether it throws it back across to
the other guy. Like I don't know, Like I don't
know how creative anybody's willing to get about this. I
don't know, Like I just I don't have a baseline
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for it. Like part of me is like by week eight,
we're all just going to be like, you know what,
I mean, it's a total nothing burger. But there's like
another part of me that like a week eight like
somebody might be doing something that is helping them win games.
I mean, I tend to think it's more of a
nothing burger than not and sort of a last ditch
attempt to save whatever's left or the kickoff, you know,
(25:51):
and hiding your behind or propping up you know, help
and safety uber Alice. But I guess it's going to
kind of come down to the coaching staff and does
somebody think they found a way to block something up
or throw a rinkle out there that other people aren't
prepared for.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
He's on Twitter or at Jason Locking four That is
at Jason lock and for check him out on Odyssey
one of five seven the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post
Jay as always, Buddy, appreciate it, man, enjoy the games.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
You guys do the same, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You know the thing about the kickoff after seeing for
one game or he's got a chance to digest it,
and of course you know, look, I don't know how
you look at it and say that's great unless you
just want to have a hot take. No, I'll be
the guy that says it's great, okay. Uh is that
this is going to be something where event He's right.
Eventually someone's going to come up with a oh, this
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is how you do it, whether it's kick return or kickoff,
They're going to come up with something where, okay, this
is how you maximize your kick returns. Then the league
is going to have to adjust almost like it's like
it's the version of the Eagles push push, right, Like,
we're going to do this, how do you adjust? Well, okay,
when you when your your linemen come in, they're able
to do some things.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Cracks. So that's what it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Now, I would have to say it's gonna wind up
being the return team that cracks something before the kicking team,
because the kicking team doesn't have a lot of options
unless you have a kicker who can really loft the
ball up and put a lot of weight a lot
of air under it so their players can can get that,
you know. So there, so it gets a little you know,
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even that you can't do anything right, but even where
you can find a way where they can't, where there's
a difficulty in receiving the ball or a difficulty in
them trying to catch the ball, Like that's the tough thing.
Like I'd have to think at some point it would
be a case of all right, now we're just gonna
we're just gonna pooch it down the field. Soccer guy
gets a weird curve on. So yeah, so I well,
(27:47):
like I said, but I think it's gonna be their
turn team. And okay, if we do this, we catch
the ball here, this wedge is gonna work and we'll
be because if you can free a guy at the thing.
The thing about is that if you can free a
guy like the fifteen twenty yard line, he could be.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
But that's the theory, right, is that it's one line
of defense trying to figure out the rotations to create
a second level, the tertiary level whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like the rugby woman for USA, that that truck that woman.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
You want to steal the football romber failed and got
run over.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
If you can get through the fifteen or twenty yard line,
you have a chance to make a big play. That's
why I think they're gonna crack it first, because they're
gonna see there's I don't know that there's a big
opportunity for a big play if you're kicking off. So
that's why I think it's gonna be. The receiving teams
is okay, if we find a way to crack this,
we can get past the twenty yard line, we have
a chance to go on almost everyone because you're talking
about eight guys are already past the twenty yard you're
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passing eight guys. There's three guys left. So that's gonna
be a real That's where I think if anybody's gonna
crack it, it's gonna be the receiving.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
My gut says it fizzles, because I mean, what's the
punitive effect You start at the thirty that extra five
yard they'll screw that like that.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Like what did we see on Thursday?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
You're gonna start between the twenty five and the thirty
two seems about where you're gonna have on average. Okay,
I'll still kick it out the back of the end zone.
It's not punitive enough. Otherwise, you know, I'll give you
the five yards instead of risking.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
That one man and gone.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Kind of effect, especially if you can find, you know,
that spectacular returner. But I think most of most of all,
it's gonna be a nothing burger. Just it gets the
percentages of touchbacks down a bit. Yay victory, NFL nothing burger.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Time not to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports was special delivery Steve the Seger wide
world because of course, with the Olympics going on, so
many big events global and you probably saw earlier today
one of the more yeoman like efforts in a sporting
event It should have been a day off for the Mets,
but they had to fly to Saint Louis play one
game for makeup before they go back to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And they shut the Cardinals out six nothing.
Speaker 9 (29:52):
And great pitching from Floyd Yeomans.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Yes he was.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Floyd Yeomans was great. He was fantastic. So was Bruce Breni.
He was awesome too.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Manaiah got the win with seven scoreless at Saint Louis,
six nothing, the final ten strikeouts, no walks. Meanwhile, those
White Sox that have lost twenty in a row have
tied it up. It's one to one at Oakland people,
let's go and can I add the Oakland A's do
not have a hit in this game. They got three
walks and a.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Sackfly A's will win two to one while getting no hit.
That's the that's the White Sox.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
But after that six pitch first, we're now in the fourth.
He's up to fifty seven pitches.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
This Sears keeping an eye on this one for other
reasons because in nineteen eighty eight Baltimore started a season
oh and twenty one. That is the American League record streak.
Twenty one White Sox have lost twenty in a row.
They're twenty seven and eighty seven this season, so the
White Sox, as we mentioned on last week's show, on
pace for over one hundred and twenty losses this year,
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which would be the modern record. The Dodgers place reliever
Blake Trining on the injured list with a hip injury.
Dodgers activated pitcher Bruce Dark Gretorol for the first time
this year. Freddy Free is playing first base for La tonight.
He was out for over a week, but his son
is now out of the hospital. The three year old
had eight days in the ICU and as you mentioned
this hour, Freeman getting a huge standing ovation from the
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home crowd when he batted in the first inning. Phillies
and pitcher Aaron Nola leading against the Dodgers and pitcher
Tyler Glass now two nothing in the bottom of the second.
Glass now has five strikeouts in two innings, and it
looked like he would get the Phillies one, two, three
in the top of the second, but Andy Pajez of LA,
who theoretically is a center fielder, played at fly ball
(31:33):
this should have been the third out, played it into
a triple and the Philly followed with an infield single,
a single to left wild pitch for another run. It
is two nothing fills in the second. Corey Seeger with
four homers in four games now at Texas, he has
tied it up Rangers two to two with Houston. Game
is in the bottom of the ninth inning. Houston is
second place in the AL West game behind idle Seattle
(31:56):
Red Sox in the ninth League nine to five at
Kansas City, the earlier winners Minnesota. They won five straight,
three nothing the final at the Cubs. The Chiefs gave
kicker Harrison Butker a four year extension. Simone Biles took
the silver medal in the floor exercise final in Paris.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You know, the funny thing is I actually read that
book about a year ago, The Longest Season Story, the
nineteen eighty eight Baltimore Orioles, And you know they started
out Owen twenty one, and two things I remember from
the book. One is that they spent way too much
time outside of the Owen twenty one start, Like this
is what you got to focus on, Like this is
they spent so much time in the rest of the
season and rookies and who came up and I'm.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
Like, this is come on, you guess there is a book?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah? Otherwise who cares?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So they went through And the other thing is I
can't remember anything else about it.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I really that's the other thing I read all the time.
I'm like, oh yeah, what do I remember from that book?
Speaker 9 (32:50):
I read it like a year crack, robinsoning else was ticked.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I remember, not fan. I think cal Ripkins Senior was
the manager. What about want to.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Say the was it DJ that said he was gonna
stay on the air, stay on the roof for something until.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh yeah, yeah there was Oh no, I remember no.
Reagan sent to there was a big deal. Reagan sent
a letter of of of of hope to the Orioles
when they were starting off. It's like Sorrier told him,
you're dolence, you know, the Orioles, but they playing ball.
This is not DC. Yeah, but there's still our area
because remember there was no Nationals there. So I remember
he sent a note of hey, good luck guys. You
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knows any more games?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
So Cal Ripken Senior started the year. He'd gone sixty
seven and ninety five the year before and was replaced.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Oh okay, okay, okay went did they replace him? At
Owen twenty one? They replaced six? Oh it's he only
got through the first six. What a great blanke you
woman from cal Ripkins Senior, like right around lost fifteen
or six and like, look at that thought I was
a problem, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Hey what your kid is on that? But look at
somebody's legs. My fault I Traber Sheets Gerhart, Fred Lynn
Toby Gerhart was on that team. Wow, know that?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Okay, Joe or Selako, I love yours and Eddie Murray
and those guys. Yeah, that's still all ways time I
decided to go deeper down down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
We'll continue to follow this game again one to one
socks in the a's in the fourth. But coming up next,
what big time college football program was just compared to
grand theft auto by one of its former players. That's
next right here, Jason and Mike.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (34:31):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon
Live from the tirag dot Com Studios we are crossing
our t's and dotting our eyes. And you know when
I say that, it means, oh, something big is coming.
We are crossing our t's and dotting our eyes on
a big NFL story coming up in about ten minutes.
(34:53):
I made three big Bowl predictions following the NFL Draft. Yeah,
double down on this bowl prediction beginning of the summer.
That looks like I'm about to go one for one.
Looks like the kid Bold prediction streak is just rolling
on twenty three to twenty four, rolling through.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Kid.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Oh, chaos is always a good thing for our industry
as long as it stays in between the white lines.
And in this particular case, it just meant that there
were some meeting rooms where well they couldn't see.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Eye to eye.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Ah, what do you got Frostburg by the Jets trading
back for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Uh don't. That's why we call it a tease, Okay,
just I mean we call it.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
A tech kind of a big deal the Jemy. You
did make that prediction, Okay, I'll tell you what it is.
The Jets are getting Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold back.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
That's the That's the thing no.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Of course not, that's not it. So with Aaron Rodgers.
I mean they're taking their healthy legs and building vultron
or what do we doing.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Some people heard me say that and go, oh I
could see the Jets doing that. Oh yeah, yeah, I
not that far out of the rom Aposta. I like
the tape they saw from Minnesota Hu and there you go,
and it involves a big trade and a player who
has wanted a trade for quite a long time. However,
again that's ten minutes away. It's again, we're crossing our tan.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Today.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
And this is just I mean, when you see this headline,
you go wow, really Athlon Sports and the New York
Posts had this story today. I only thought they did
magazine that Yeah, the big the Biggest foot comes out
in April. Yeah, that comes out like eight months before
all long before any of the transfer portals.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Depending on what the Steelers could do. In the Drafted
hip report from Athlon Sports and again and it's on
the New York Post as well, talked about how the
program culture surrounding Dion Sanders team in Colorado has allowed
violence to run rampant in the locker room. According to
a former player, quote It's like a real life Grand
(36:57):
Theft auto video game. There are many diractions with fights,
guns and money floating around.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Send lawyers, guns and money.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh, that's lawyers, guns and money. This is You don't
think there's lawyers involved. No, you'd really think there's lawyers involved.
I think so in the background, fights, guns and money.
If this is really happening, then the lawyers will get involved.
You've seen the billboards. One specific in since acording of
the report involved Shiloh Sanders, one of Dion's kids, and
(37:26):
five star recruit Carmani Maclain, who has since transferred. They
got into a big altercation late in the twenty twenty
three season. Shiloh apparently slapped him several times. Cormani is screaming,
I'm gonna kill you. Quote after that, you could tell
Carmani wasn't mentally there. It's hard when the coaches you
trust are calling you derogatory names on the practice field.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Now, since Shiloh already lost at eleven point eight million dollars, judgment, bankruptcy,
whatever else.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
What happens.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Look the big thing about the opposite. I'm just thinking
about Grand Theft. Daughto Colorado. Buffalo's right Grand Theft Auto
San Andreas, Grand Theft Auto Colorado, Buffalo, mean get a
sponsorship field, I mean Grand the Grand Theft Auto Boulder
with Dion on the cover right with the sunglasses, or
that's what this? Oh look, well, well this is something
(38:14):
that's come out from players who have transferred. You're gonna
get the back and forth of did this happen? Dion's
gonna say, nobody is still here that wants to be here.
These are all guys that should have left. This is
where we're at right now. The conversation with Colorado and
Deon Sanders has has now changed and we're asked and
the wrong and now we have to ask a new
question and forget about the old question. The old question was, boy,
(38:35):
how long until Dion wins in Colorado? And boy, what
a big thing that's gonna be? Right because he owned
college football in the entire sports world in September of
last year. Then they didn't win a game, and now
it's okay, now another season. He's got more players in boy,
if he wins, he is the rock star head coach
in college football. But the question used to be, oh, boy,
how long untill he wins?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Can he win? This year.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
That changes now to how much longer is this really
gonna happen? How how much longer is Dion really going
to be coaching at Colorado before either it blows up
and he leaves, or or he gets let go, or
maybe he has a big year and he wins and
he goes someplace else, Like this is not something that's sustainable, right,
Like like what went on last September wasn't sustainable because
(39:17):
you eventually got to play a whole season, But this
whole culture and everything we're seeing this is not sustainable.
I don't know how Dion, the Dion era in Colorado
is sustainable. And in a few years it's a thirty
for thirty. This is the wild stuff that happened. You
don't know the tip of it. You know the tip
of the iceberger what went on in Colorado? One's Dion
walked in like.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Is it one more year?
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Shador and Shiloh leaving and then Dion's gone, Like I
would say, you put me the over under. I would say,
after this year, Dion's not going to be a.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Guy said that last year that would going to be
his kids and Travis Hunter leave and that's the end
of it, get them as well placed into the NFL
and helps steer things if possible. Right, We've actually had
that conversation during the off season of trying to get
to the Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Raiders or whatever the case. Maybe you know Lebron that
stuff as it was termed.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
But yeah, I mean, look, I have no doubt that
you've got locker rooms all over the country where there's
some level of chaos and in just a different way
of doing business and Dion doing big speeches that go
out and become viral sensations of hey, let's act like
the guy's making two hundred and thirty million dollars, right
(40:25):
in terms of don't touch the quarterback, don't do this,
you know, act like we're on that next level. We
gotta protect him, which, yeah, you should protect your starting quarterback.
I agree with that, but it goes into a larger
thing of you're still playing for this year and in
this moment that it's not. Let's look to the NFL
and if half of this is true, then you've got
(40:45):
a culture that's not sustainable.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Whether he's there or not. I mean, I really I
think this year and that's going to be it. He's
got to go. He's got to go eleven and one. Well,
the magnifying guy, and they get some tough games right
out of the jump.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That big NFL story coming up next absolutely his standing
ovation when he comes up to bad it was awesome.
Dodgers now lit up the Phillies for four runs. Here
Aaron Nola getting taken deep just a few moments ago.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Now like law no, no no.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
So while we have this big matchup between the nl
wes and n least division leaders, we have a big
NFL story that could see its conclusion coming up anytime now.
It was just after the draft when the ridiculousness started
with Brandon Ayuk in the forty nine is where I
told you the Niners are going to wind up trading it.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I got proof. I just quote tweeted it, put it
back on Twitter. Right after the draft. I said, he
wants out. Yeah, the Niners are not going to pay him.
He's going to get paid by somebody. He wants well
that they.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Were going to have to make a choice, right, it
was going to be one or the other.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
You had the Instagram, the conversation that was put up
on social media by his girlfriend, and Ayuk has pushed
to make this happen. He made this situation combative. I'm
sure sure the forty nine ers came out of the
draft saying, okay, well, we drafted Piersol we love him,
he's really good.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Eh, if we can.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Squeeze one more year out of Ayuk, and Debo and
Kittle and pearsall, hey, awesome. But they know we're gonna
have to trade Brandon Ayuk at some point. Now, whether
it was a fool's erron thinking we can do it,
but they knew at some point. Okay, maybe we squeezed
through this year and don't have to trade him until
next year. But if we have to trade him, we
know it's coming. And when you make it combative, and
(42:29):
we know stars, when stars want trades, they wind up
getting taken care of.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Well.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
According to Mary kay Cabin, longtime Brown's inside, the entire
time I've been at my radio careers's been a Brown's outsider.
And now other sources picking this up as well. There
is a framework for a trade on the table between
the San Francisco forty nine Ers and two teams. The
Niners have worked out a deal with two teams for
(42:54):
Brandon Ayuk. The compensation has been agreed upon, the salary
has been quote agreed upon, and now Ayuk has to
choose does he want one of these deals? You think
I'm gonna say the Pittsburgh Steelers, That is not happening.
According to reports, the Steelers are out of the Brandon
Ayuk running. They seem close earlier today, but according to
(43:17):
these late reports, the Niners just asked for too much.
Like what do they ask for, Russell Wilson, I mean,
come on, So they asked for too much. So the
Steelers are out. So right now, there is a framework
for two deals in place between the forty nine Ers
and the New York between the forty nine Ers and
the Cleveland Browns and the forty nine Ers and the
(43:39):
New England Patriots. So they have deals together with both
of these teams. And now the ball is in Ayuke's court. Okay,
do you want either of these deals? Which one do
you want? Which team would you rather pick? And we
may get a resolution to this anytime again. Mary kay Cabot,
longtime Browns insider, that's getting picked up by a lot
of other outlets here that that's what's happening at this
(44:01):
hour right now with Brandon Ayuk, who has wanted to
be traded because he wants to get paid. He wants
a big contract. He's the next guy to get paid.
Someone's gonna give him thirty million dollars a year. He's
not going to play for the forty nine Ers unless
he was getting it. And now the Niners seemed like
to have capitulated and said, okay, this is past the
point of no return and now we have to trade him,
which I said was going to happen after the time, but.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
That was going to be the push, right.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
It was either gonna be Ayuk or it was gonna
be Deebo Samuel, And given Debo's usage and injury history,
becomes a much more difficult proposition when you look at
Ayuk and what he could still be. Evidently didn't want
to meet the thirty million dollars or whatever the asking
price was in terms of contracts. So now we get
into the trade. The Mary kay cabot is interesting because
(44:45):
in order to make it work, it seems Amari Cooper
would have to come back to the forty nine Ers,
or if it's the Patriots, then Kendrick Bourne the board
identity make your jokes, it would be coming back, uh
and forge himself well a new.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Identity in San Francisco. Shut it out, Zack. It just
worked really well right there, but he would be part
of the deal.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
So Washington evidently was in for a while and they
backed out Pittsburgh, which we saw how many falls starts today?
How many times did you refresh to see somebody else?
Speaker 6 (45:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Yeah, sure, reporting Hey, Mike. I joked with Jason locking
Ford it was like a nor Ad Santa Claus.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Kind of thing. He's like, where's he yet?
Speaker 5 (45:24):
Now?
Speaker 4 (45:25):
But evidently that goes to the wayside, and now it
becomes the do you go to Deshaun Watson or do
you head over to become the number one for whoever
wins the sweep stakes in a rebuilt New England Patriots squad. Now,
before you get to that, first things first, like, because
you would you would think if you're choosing between.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Ayuk and Debo, you would choose Ayuk. Deebo is breaking
down a little bit. Uh, he's more of a gadget player. However,
according to you know and everything I've read about Debo
so far, this this summer is Deebo's come to camp.
He's put his head down he's working hard and that
was a big thing, right, So, Hey, I want to stay.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
I want to be here.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I got one guy who doesn't want to be here
and is putting out message on social media. If I'm
the guy that shows up and does my job, are
they really gonna trade me? But especially Okay, maybe this
is a little bit of just we feel better about
it because no team wants Deebo Samuel over Brandon.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Brandon Huk's a better player.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Well, I think if I were, if I were missing
that one piece, right, if I were a team that's
in contention with Deebo for one year, one to two years,
that's all I'm looking for for a guy that's as
a runner, as a receiver, you can kick him in
the return games like you can do a lot with
a Deebo Samuel. But I don't think his values anywhere
(46:44):
close to what it is to San Francisco. And I
think there's some of that realization for him for his
career of what he is in that offense surrounded by
that amount of talent that Shanahan knows how to use
him properly. So yeah, you're gonna put your best foot
forward to make sure you're not the guy whose name
gets called.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I would hear you on debo if he just hasn't
sort of fallen off a cliff since his big year
in twenty twenty one, right when in twenty twenty one
he's phenomenal, Right, fourteen hundred yards, receiving seventy seven catches,
He's still the big running threat. But then it was, yeah,
I don't know that I want to run the football
that much anymore. I want to do different things. Yeah,
you put me out there.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, I don't know. And in the last couple of years,
you know, he's been a jag. Wow, but you've also
had the last two years.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
But you've also had six guys to choose from, and
you can use him as a decoy quite a bit
to change up defensive schemes.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yea more so than you do with Ayu.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
But that's someone you trot him out there and go
good luck. All right, Hey, now you have to really
roll coverage just towards him. And Ayukas is a fantastic playbook.
He did you know, he did quit on that big
route in the Super Bowl that that turned into a
big play that maybe the Niners could have wound up winning.
But it's just first thing is it's difficult for me
to sit here and go, Wow, you're the forty nine ers.
But you feel better about keeping Debo because he seems
(48:03):
like he's more with the program. Ayuk was just going
to be make things difficult, right, he was just going
to make things difficult. His contract situation was always going
to be a problem. So you knew you had to
move them so and.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
They did right.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Like I said, it was we'll try to get through
this year, but we can't and we're gonna wind up
moving them again. I told you in April. Now here's
here's a statement that would not have been would not
have made sense for basically two thousand up until like
last year. But if you want to win, you go
to the Browns instead of the Patriots. Like, that's a
(48:34):
statement from two thousand through twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
You're like, what are you in?
Speaker 6 (48:37):
Said?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
What the hell is wrong with you? No, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Now if you want to win, you go to the
Browns and not the Patriots, not because the Watson football,
but you still have a you have a much better
team with a great defensive bottom. Yeah, and I'll look
at Hub's returning. Yeah, You've got a lot there, and it's.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Not like you don't have options a quarterback. You know
they're gonna make you know.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Look they and they came in and said, Okay, if
something has with to Shawn, Joel's not there anymore, you
can pull the trigger on him. You're talking about a
much better football team, a team that won left with
horrible quarterback play, and then they got Joe Flacco. They
dusted them off. They started four guys last year and
the Browns still won. Like this is I mean, that's unbelievable.
You think about that, that's like, that's real coach of
(49:20):
the year. So how do you win with four quarterbacks?
How do you have that kind of a season? Great defense?
And remember you lost Chubb at started. I mean you lost,
you lost your counterbacks together, and you lost your best
offensive player. The Browns are loaded. The Browns are loaded.
The Patriots. This is where you want to go. The
Patriots have no idea who their starting quarterback is going
(49:41):
to be. You have no idea if Drake May is
any good. Like, look I told your from the beginning.
The Patriots felt they got push into taking Drake May,
like we're drafting third overall the first two guys got drafted. Uh, okay,
we'll take a quarterback because we're drafting number three, and
who knows when that's gonna happen again. Right now, Drake
May is not close to the starting job Jacoby Brissett
as the starter. You're hearing Joe Milton, you know his.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Name, throw We liked him as a late round sleeper,
right situation, right coaching staff, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
That's a little that's a little much, I think to
say all of a sudden, Joe Milton's But you have
other guys in the mix. You're not hearing Drake May's name,
and you don't know if he's really gonna be any good.
So if you're ayuk, you're gonna go somewhere you can say, Okay,
I'm gonna spend the prime, the last of the prime
years of my career when I'm putting my ball. I'm
gonna get paid either place, but I'm putting my body
on the line in Iowa because all football players want
(50:33):
to win, regardless of what you think about it, all
football they want to get paid and they all want
to win.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Could you put your body if you get to be
the missing piece?
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Right?
Speaker 4 (50:41):
When when it becomes a hey, this was what put
us over, because that's what this Ayuk move would be.
Right if Cleveland goes on to do great things. Now again,
it means there's consistency at QB, and I'll believe that
when I see it. But for the sake of this argument,
let's let's do it that. If they do win, it's
gonna be a lot about Ayuk, because who the hell's
given a lot of credit to to Sean Watson, Yeah, no,
(51:02):
nobody is. But you're gonna shy away from that. So
so if you're AU, not only do you win, but
you're the guy that was seen as the missing piece.
So the ego, uh ego gets even larger because you
got the big dollars to say you were wanted and
you were the missing piece to a team that went.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
On a run. Yeah, and and and for all. Like
I said, he's getting paid either place. So you want
to win.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Like I said, the NFL, what they put their bodies through,
you can't say they go out every Sunday and don't
want to win. It's why players can't tank. It's why
they all go out there and they all bust their
ass to try to win because that's what you, that's you.
That's what football players do. That's why everybody loves the
NFL so much. Right, one of those things you don't
really think about, but kind of it just kind of
floats around. Oh yeah, okay, I got.
Speaker 4 (51:44):
The bigger thing is that you gotta put on good
tape so you can get another contract because they're guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Oh yeah, but right.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
If if, if you're gonna go someplace and you think, Okay,
what's my best place to win in the next three years?
I don't mean five, the next three years, who's got
there to the are bleeping starting over. Man, they're gonna
be looking up at the Jets and the Bills and
the Dolphins. You don't know how the quarterback petition is
going to go. You don't know what kind of head
coach you have. You think maybe you have a good
(52:10):
head coach, but I have no idea. I know you're
going to a great head coach with the Browns are
great head coach. But all the stuff with the Browns
and the choosing of Deshaun Watson, throw that to the side.
I know what you're getting in Cleveland. You are getting
a phenomenal head coach in Stefanski. You are getting a
phenomenal team. You're getting a team that has figured out away. Hey,
we segued away from Baker Mayfield. We've gotten horrible play
(52:32):
from a guy we guaranteed two hundred and fifty million dollars. Too,
We're still winning football games. That's where I want to go.
If those are the choices, It's Cleveland over I never
thought i'd say that, and for twenty years I'd just
sounded like an idiot, But now I sound like the
smartest guy in the world.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
You are taking Cleveland over New England.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
Nah, this one becomes a Hey, captain obvious unless you
just want to be linked to Tom Brady of you're
playing for a team he wants played Foh no, maybe
maybe they'll convince that would be the only thing.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
No, Brady's still the quarterback here.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
They have like one of those cutouts of him, like
with a sub Why does he have a subway sandwich? No,
that's Tom, that's Tom right there. He's fine, that's Tom.
He's gonna play a little bit. Watch watch him throw,
Like they pull back the arm on the on the
sandwich cut and push the ball out.
Speaker 6 (53:16):
You go.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
No, he's still the guy, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
We'll be curious is to see what the gap was
with Pittsburgh because that's a team that I'm I'm mighty
intrigued about. The quarterback position still a giant question Mark
might as well have the Riddler suit on that and
in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
But the rest of the roster pretty strong. But it's
for Ayuk.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
Yeah, in terms of making that choice, if the choice
is legitimately yours, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Again, we'll have more on this story coming up again.
The framework in place for a trade from Brandon Ayuk
to both the Browns and the four and the New
England Patriots, and now it's up to Ayuk if this
is a trade he wants, and we'll continue to follow
the story as the night goes on.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
How many times do you think Tysher would have hit
the Cleveland button?
Speaker 6 (53:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (53:57):
A thousand?
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Luckily Mary mack filling in tonight we would be hearing
running up that hill because it's like what the thirty
ninth anniversary of us put that out? No, no, no,
Mary knows, Mary knows, she knows. That's not how she
Marry knows.
Speaker 6 (54:07):
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