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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome inside our two, the Doug Gottlieb Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith Mike Harmon in for Doug.
Today our show heard nights here on Fox seven to
eleven pm Pacific. And before you get another big NFL topic, Hey,
congratulations to Connor Stallions proving that a You'll only be
out of work for so long as a Michigan high school. Yeah,
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Mumford Mumford, which is made famous back by Eddie Murphy
and Beverly Hills cop in nineteen eighty three. I actually
had a Mumford fizz ed T shirt like Jim everybody.
Oh yeah, I loved it. One of my favorite T shirts.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Of all time. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Ah when I could pull off dark gray and it
looked really good on me all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh yeah, I wore that T shirt still the time.
It'll be undoubtedly and upticking sales of those. Sure, sure
it would be the Connor Stallions.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So it'll be the new Mumford and there will be
some sort of uh, I don't know, high powered glasses
on the back.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I guess, don't know. That's your standy shirt. Yeah, no,
you got to have some fun with it, have a
couple of random icons put on the back, much like
he is in the surveillance business.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I mean, it's so weird that he has the job now.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Obviously because Connor Stallion's at the forefront of the Michigan.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Cheating scandal last year.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
The guy who was getting all the hand signals and
all the defensive plays and helping to relay them allegedly
to Michigan.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
The guy gets a job. Okay, he's coaching high school football.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
This was something where it's about cheating. It's something where
you can work your way back from. But yeah, let's
put him in some young kids. Got a dude, got
a gig in Michigan. I mean in Michigan, all I
gonna do is that.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, where else are you gonna get a job?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Somewhere where nobody knows who you are. You know, you
change your name and you know you can get a job.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Are you kidding? I mean, that guy's a legend. He
might that might be a no show job like we
used to see on all those TV and movies, you know,
when you were connected. So yeah, he doesn't actually come
into work.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So you think in Michigan he is like like like
behind the scenes, celebrated for all those.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Games done Michigan.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Not not yet, not yet, but they did win the
national title.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So what's the NC double a gonna take from him?
All of you out there at Swollen Dome if you
want to fight me about it? And how about a fresco?
Nobody ever remembers the retraction, Jason. You know this, especially
when it takes the NC double a years to actually
adjudicate anything.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Sure, sure, it's just it's you know, it is kind
of hard to think that. Okay, here's a guy that
was part of a big cheating scandal. It's like, yeah,
stay in the state. It's good. We got you, man,
we got you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah. I mean the fact that he's going to be
a coach at a high school again. The children, you
gotta think of the children and send there.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean every all of a sudden, Look if all
of a sudden these kids say hey, wait a minute,
they just suddenly they're all like taping using their phones
during the game, trying to get said, Hey, coach, here's
what I found.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Okay, that's not what I meant to teach you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That's not that's not the values of the of a
secondary education.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Hang on, don't want the course I teach is visual, coach,
I've coach. I intercepted all of their signals. In fact,
I know where the head coach is eating dinner after
the game is over. But how do I get this
to you?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
What do you want?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
You want to teach a hard drive review? Yeah? Do
you wanna?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Do you want it on a thumb drive?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Coach? Like that?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
That's the big thing now at all, because it's so easy,
it's so small. You put it on a thumb drive.
People yank it out of a computer and they throw
it into the computer. What on a thumb drive for?
It's on a big thumb drive.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, or you drive or you go politician and you
talk about random clouds. I thought we'll leave that alone.
But yeah, I mean like it's not like he's taking
a job at East Lansing, like he gets hired around
the Michigan State campus. Then let's talk. But you know
the state as a whole. I mean, look, you're a
Michigan guy. You know, you married into it, so you
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recognize the celebration of the year that was. Even though
you can't go back because you were not a big
fan of JJ McCarthy. They don't want you there. But
and look what you did to him. But the fact is,
you got a title, You got a lot of wins.
Sure there are a lot of bad headlines, and sure
Paul Finebaumb's mad, but you don't care. So you embrace him.
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He gave you a title, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But the thing is, I could now that I think
about it, I could almost see if Michigan State wanted
to do it right, like, because I could see the
interview going like Connor Stallion's you were caught cheating, Michigan
is enraged, engulfed and scandal in their national t damp
chip season.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Could could you do that for us? Could you? Could you?
Is that possible? Could you do?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
If you do that for us, we can we have
a spot for you.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
If you could do that, that'd be great. We were okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Great, yeah, great, So fill this out and go see
Bernice and human Resources.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
She'll set you up. You're all good. Have you been
able to you know, you got to change with the times, Like,
do you have any advances in technology and stuff that
you can bring here to East Lansing.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Uh So, this is a crazy ass story that we
haven't heard the last of. I mean, really, the guy's
working in Michigan, but this story out of the NFL
story that's kind of been rumbling along the last couple
of days. According to Chargers head coach Jim Harbaugh in January,
he offered a coaching spot on his staff to Colin Kaepernick.
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When this story gets out, maybe is a way to
deflect the Michigan controversy.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Hey hey, Jim, what do you expecting?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You know?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I offered Colin Kaepernick a coaching job? Wait?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Wait, wait, wait forget about that. You did seeah? I
changed the conversation and they're really fast, didn't the answers?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You kidding with them?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You came in with all these questions about that, and
Justin Herbert in a walking boot and instead I'm gonna
tell you. You know I offered a job to Colin Kaepernick,
He said, I never heard back after he offered Kaepernick
the job and said glowing things about him, saying, look,
you know when Al Davis saw something in me, thought
I could be a coach, I see the same thing
in Colin. Colin Kaeperick's gonna be thirty seven years old.
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I offer him a coaching job. Colin hasn't gotten back
to me. But it's only been a few months. Yeah, okay,
it's it's January. He hasn't gotten back to you. I
don't think been a few months. I don't think he's coming.
This is like in high school. I texted her. I
think she might like me, but she hasn't gotten back
to me. When was that, Oh that was before Christmas. Dude,
it's the summer. What are you talking about. She doesn't
like you. So he had to get back to him,
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and then Hardball be realizing I opened the can of
worms on This has since said in the last few hours. No,
Colin Kaepernick is not going to come here and be
a head coach.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Not this year.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Potentially, the door is opened for me after next year, budd,
He's got everything filled and Kaepernick's not coaching. Kaepernick was
even asked about what's going on with his career at
the Olympics, says he would love to represent the US
and three on three football in a few years when
it comes to LA But he is still working out
every day in hopes of an NFL return.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
We just got to get one of these team owners
to open up, that's what he told Sky Sports.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Look, let's just be real about this. He's not going
to be a coach in the NFL. He's not going
to do this, and and you know why because it
would end his identity, Because his identity and everything he's
got going on in his life right now, his endorsements,
his contract with Nike is because he's the NFL player
who's not allowed back into the game. Right that's his
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inten Now, forget, forget for a second the blackballing part
of it, and the and the and the and the
the settlement, because who knows how much it was wasn't
nearly as much everybody thought it was, So that was
a big question mark they to get back in the game.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Right, he was, He has been the guy that's been
blackballed from the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
That's his identity. That's who he is, that's who he
is every day. And the minute he goes back into
the NFL, he loses that. Oh, Colin Kaepernick is back,
but really he knows it's over. It's thirty seas thirty seven.
He hasn't played in almost a decade. He knows it's over.
But the minute he is not that guy anymore, well
then who knows that he's still gonna be represented by Nike.
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He's still gonna have that kind of image reputation. No,
as long as he is the guy who was pushed
out of the NFL. Hey, that's what he's going to
keep on doing. He's never gonna change from that. He's
gonna be forty five years old saying I'm working out
every day. I'm hoping the NFL team is gonna call me.
And for all the thought and all the all the
questions that people have, but oh yeah, look at all
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these guys getting jobs. You know, he was trending when
JJ McCarthy got hurt. They should sign Colin Kaepernick because
eight years ago, I mean, it's done. It's done for him.
But he doesn't want to come back. He doesn't want
to come back to the NFL, and you have people
have to understand that he just wants to make it
look like I'm not allowed back in five years ago.
Roger Goodell in the NFL, whatever you say about them before, right,
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that's before. But here you're talking about letting him back
in the NFL five years ago, when he was thirty
two years old, only out of the league for a
couple of years. The NFL set up a day for
him to go work out, and the NFL, We're sending
all of their scouts down. There was gonna be scouts
from every single bleeping team going to watch Colin Kaepernick
work out. Right, this is where, okay, we can see
how good the guy is and maybe someone offers him
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a contract. The NFL is not gonna go to this
extent to say, hey, we're gonna put this out there
for you and have everybody come down only to see
you not get signed. This was an event that any
NFL player who wanted to get back in the league
would want, Oh, wait, you mean I can get back in.
You're gonna send thirty two scouts and thirty two teams
are gonna come here and watch me work out.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Great.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
What happened right before the event, Colin Kaepernick said, no,
I don't want to work out there. If you want to,
you gotta come follow me two hundred miles up the road.
I'm gonna go work out two hundred miles away, and
that's where you can come do it. The big rumor
was he wanted to use it to shoot a Nike commercial.
Didn't want him to do it, and so that's why
he said, no, I'm not going to work out and
I'm going to go up here. So you tell me.
(10:05):
Does Colin Kaepernick really want to get back in the NFL.
He had a chance, He had a chance to work
out in front of all kinds of scouts to show
for once and for all, hey I'm good enough. I
can still get back in. It was okay to sign
him in twenty nineteen. It was okay to get back in.
He could have gotten back in if he wanted to,
but he doesn't, and he didn't. So that's why it's
where it is right now. That should have been the
end of the conversation. That should be the end of, Hey,
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Colin Kaepernick coming back when he turned down the NFL's like, hey,
here you go, come work out. We want to see
you you know, Tara Owens did it, everybody, all these
other players have done it, trying to get back in
the league, come and work out. No, he didn't want
to do it. So that's when it should have had.
Twenty nineteen should have been the end of the Hey,
Colin Kaepernick coming back conversations, because hey, he clearly thumbed
his nose at trying to come back when he had
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a chance to do it. But it still is out today.
But it's there because he still wants to put out
that image. I'm the guy that kept out of the league,
and that continues his his persona and his image and
the optics of him.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Rolling the way they are.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well, when you have a brand and movement and whatever
works you're doing in communities, and it's been quieter, at
least to the outward media here in terms of television, radio,
whatever is not a name we bring up anymore. But
you know, hopefully some of those good works continue and
folks affected. But yeah, coming back to the NFL in
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any capacity would have torpedoed much of the stance. Right,
It's a much different discussion, except you could say, hey,
we beat the system, which has its juice in its
own right. But you know, the larger point is he
hasn't played quarterback in forever, and we watch how many
guys every year leave college and take their shot at
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becoming a pro quarterback. We're watching the guys you know,
on hard Knocks and all of these reps that we're watching.
If you're staying up late for the fourth quarter of
preseason games, most of those guys ain't hanging out with
the team either, and they're fresh, fresh leg, fresh arm,
ready to go and could be in the best shape
of his life. But yeah, you got to keep the
narrative alive. And this gave some oxygen to it. And
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certainly Harbaugh's not not above trying to give give some oxygen.
He'd been a very strong advocate, you know, for trying
to figure out how to get things quote unquote right
with college players and with Colin Kaepernick, a guy who
had great success for him. Not surprising that he adds
to it. Be curious on a coaching staff, but you know,
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we always talk about if you if you were to
sign him, and even if you did, all right, one shot,
come on in, like what does that do to a
to a locker room, what does it do to media?
Coverage and everything else. That's the oxygen. We always talked
about it with Tebow, right, it was the same thing
you know of all right, Now we're now we're adding
something else to it. And it's not saying right or wrong.
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It just changes, you know, the paces that you try
to be so disciplined in working through day to day.
But yeah, this is this is a lot of chatter
these last couple of days. And to me, it's like
all right, asked and answered five LUs years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah, I mean, I know we're still on this.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Hang.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's like Mike Tyson, Oh, Tyson's gonna fight. Tyson's fifty eight.
Now it's over. Who knows if the Jake Paul fight
is even gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Okay, hey November, Man, I'm there, bought it, man, I
got my tick nowed.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Like it's done.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I mean, look, if Kaepernick really he's got people in
the league that want to help it.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
He's got people there. He's got not like he's got
no he's.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Got no support, especially after the court case, if he's
being kept out, if there's evidence of him continued to
be blackballed, like this is something you could find. That's
why there's a there's the period before the tryout and
after the tryout, right before the tryout, different story. Did
teams want to keep him away? He took him to court.
NFL had to settle that. That's a separate thing. But
that's not an admission of guilt. You know, you're a
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big fan of the law and order world as I am. No,
it's not an admission of guilt.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That's it. Hey, let's all come to commer heads prevail
and he and he took whatever that settlement was.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, oh look, this could be.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
We don't want what's coming up in Discovery that you
come out, which is kind of what the whole Week
said for years. Yeah, with the John Gruden emails right
like day, we don't want crazy, we.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Don't want anything else coming out.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, we don't want anything with Bruce Allen coming out,
Like we're gonna hold, we're gonna we're gonna cover this up. So, yes,
you know what's going on with Discovery. You don't know
what the what the what the overall settlement was, and
and talked that it was it was a lot lower
than people said it was, but that that's that this
was okay, now, okay, he had a couple of years
he couldn't play. Now it was okay, right, For the
last five years he's really had a chance, He's really
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had it, but he no, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Just got to keep waiting.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
If if a team called him tomorrow and said I'm ready,
you know, I we want to sign you, come and
play quarterback, would he say yes?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I mean a team's not going to do it. But
if they did, would he say yes?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I need find a way to say no, he we
because then he's not, okay, I'm coming. I just don't
see that happening. He's had his chances to come back
and he hasn't.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I mean, when when you're when you're thirty one, thirty two,
and and you see where guys are, if you really
want to come back to the NFL, he could have
jumped in and been a and been at least emergency quarterback,
battling it out with someone to be the backup quarterback.
That was going to be his reality in the NFL anyway,
leaving the forty nine After the forty nine ers, he
was gonna have to be a backup and fight his
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way back like he could have done that. He could
have really if he really wanted to, he could have
done it. I'll come in. I'll come in, I'll be
a camp arm. I'll come in and I'll throw. Just
want just on a team to see me throw for
a little bit. Maybe you want to keep me because
you have a couple of guys hurt. If you really want,
if he really wanted that, he could have done that
like that, that's your way. If you're desperate enough to play,
there are ways to get back in. And that's what
he could have done, and he didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I give Hardball credit though he didn't. He didn't open
it up as a we may need another arm as
in hey, Eastern sticks no good and Max Duggan returns.
He ain't all that. It was about coaching, and specifically
about coaching, because he really could have opened, you know,
the door the other way of going. You know, we've
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got to be ready. We might need other arms around. Now.
He didn't do that. The fact that Kaepernick took that
ball and ran with it, you know, and good for
good for him, you know, push your narrative.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
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Speaker 1 (17:20):
Fox Sports Radio, The Doug Gottlieb Show, Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon in for Doug today and look, you know, before
we get back into the NFL, I do have to
say this. You know, we use the phrase, oh man,
if that happens, it'll shut down the Internet, and I
think we kind of use that as a crutch sometimes
is probably going to shut down the Internet. I don't know, man,
Sidney Sweeney may be shutting down the Internet today on
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a boat.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Kind of a big deal. I mean some of the
responses to her latest showing off assets.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I mean every other Jane, every other post on Twitter
is Sidney Sweeney and her Instagram. Like that's every other post.
Can't get away from it.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
But it's all the you know, you're known for one
thing for a very long time. Yeah. Oh then you
add a second skill. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's like it's like when Tom Glavin came up with
a circle change. It's like, whoa, it was great a
picture as I discovered the circle change back half of
my career.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Look what I can.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Do game changer right where you have to to relearn, right,
guys get hurt and they learn how to pitch instead
of throw all of those kind of things. For Sydney Sweeney,
she added, added another another pitch to the repertoire.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's like John Smoltz, you know, forever, one of the
greatest starters in baseball.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Guess what I can be a closer to? Wha my
guy could do that?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Good? My favorite was this is like Iowa getting an offense.
Oh no, yeah, they are so okay. This is like
giving mahomes Lamar speed. You keep going. No, that's good.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I like that one.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I'm keeping them clean. Some of them not so much.
But there's a couple of sports related ones. For the
game that Sidney Sweety is pitching out of Friday.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
It's like giving Aaron Rodgers more than four snaps.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Hey, now look, the beginning of the show, we talked
about the issue with the Patriots and just the dire
straits they're in.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
They they're a terrible team.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
They lose last night, which okay, it's a preseason game,
and I look, and I get all that, but you
had four quarterbacks play and they threw for a total
of ninety yards. Today Gerrod Mayo said, Hey, our quarterback
competition is open. You think, I mean really, you think
it's open. With all of that, the Patriots are going
to be terrible. They have no talent. You're talking about
a new head coach trying to put in a new scheme,
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a new philosophy with a new quarterback and not a
lot of talent across the board.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Not a lot of people rushing to give five thousand
word thought pieces or five minute videos on Joe Milton
today after his performance last night.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, it's been a minute since Mac Jones was Tom Brady.
It's been a minute for that. I'm old enough to
remember when that was the big story of training.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Kevy's Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
But look, look, when you trade away one of your
best players a couple of weeks before the season in
Matthew Judah, you know what kind of year you're gonna have. Right,
the Patriots should be This is going to be a
terrible season, and they should be the They're in pole
position right now, and it'd be a minor upset if
they're not picking first in the NFL Draft in April.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
But now, I said, there are other teams that on
a list of teams that only have one thing wrong
with them, which is that they stink. So with the Patriots, right,
the teams that should be vying for the number one
pick that Dyke just can't see their way out of
this season. The other four teams, the Raiders, the Giants,
the Saints, and the Cardinals. All of these teams are
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caught in the middle of one regime waiting.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
For a start over. The Raiders.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Look what they're throwing out there at quarterback. They're gonna
trade DeVante Adams. They let their best running back go. Like,
what are the Raiders really doing between O'Connell and Gardner minshew.
The Giants are waiting to replace Daniel Jones, right, I
like Malik Neighbors, and they have a couple of nice,
okay pieces, But they know the only reason Daniel Jones
is back there is because, well, we gave him forty
million we shouldn't have, and this is gonna be the
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season everybody else in their division got better.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
The Giants did not.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Right now, while the Cowboys didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
The Cowboys are but the Cowboys are already much better
than the Giants. No, it's not like the Giants. Hey
guess what, but all the other teams in their division
are better than that. I should say they're all much better.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Oh sure, And yeah, you got Tom Brady throwing straight
at Daniel Gimps. That was the best for a guy
he'll never broadcast a game of no.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And look and the Saints everybody's injured, Derek Carr is
not great, all their running backs are hurt. This is
this is an abysmal season waiting to happen. And for
the Cardinals it's always the same, right, Oh, we have
all this hope and then Kyler Murray's gonna have the
first couple of games and he's either going to not
be the same guy or he's gonna get hurt or something.
I mean, it's the Cardinals, it's it's how it goes them.
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And they're in a very difficult division as well, like
they could go h to six without even trying to
the West.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Wait, now you're giving two games away to Gino. Man,
you give to head coach to be fired. I don't
really not car Fox Sports Radio, wherever you get.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I didn't say fired. I said he's not up for
being a head coach in the NFL, that he.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Would stink, which long for the job. I said he's
not stands for not for long. I said the job
was too much for him, and I can't believe he's
a head coach. I did not say he should be fired.
There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I just got ejected. I don't think there is. But
it's just wordsmith, It's just a word.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
No, I mean that was a good soft shooting that
you did. Do we have him lined up in five
minutes or something that you need to you know?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
No, But look, but these teams are all caught like
they're all caught in starting over or or or figuring
out if they want to start over. And these are
gonna be bad seasons. Right now, the Patriots easily should
be far and away the favorite. If any team is
going to get close, I probably say the Raiders because
their division is going to be more difficult. But the Walk, right, well,
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that's the thing. Yeah, now that Justin Herbert is going
to play, things are getting much more difficult. But but really,
the Patriots, I mean they're in the toughest division. The
Jets should win two games over them for the first
time in thirty years, right, Like, that's how bad it
is for them. I don't I don't see any team
really threatening them, because they clearly they have. Look, we
watched this this roster. This is one of the least
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talented teams we've seen in the NFL in a long time.
It's like Bill Belichick did it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I'm not going to another Super Bowl. I don't have
Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I'm just gonna take this roster all the way down
to the studs and then I'm gonna leave and then
say good luck to the next guy taking over.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
That's what I'm gonna do. There, you go, Well, let's
have fun with the current odds for the win totals
in Vegas. The Bills are at ten and a half,
the Dolphins are at nine and a half, and the
Jets are at nine and a half. So that tells
you where we're at running out of the gate, all right,
Patriots four and a half wins right behind them super
genius Sean Payton and his Broncos and Dave Canalis and
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the upstart Panthers. I think that division is bad enough
that you get a few more wins than that. I
would take the over there. And then you also have
the Titans, Titans, Commanders, Raiders, Giants, are all at six
and a half wins.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
See, I like the Titans and the Commanders a little
bit more. Look, I love Jaydon Daniels. The guy is
a superstar. I think he's gonna find a way to
win a couple of games. And again they play the
Giants twice. The Titans made some nice moves in the offseason.
Are they gonna be world beaters? No, but they'll win
five or six games. You talk about TAM's gonna win
three games like that's your These teams are gonna win
three games, and the Patriots are gonna win three games.
(25:07):
Maybe you know that's what their season is gonna look like.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
So Variable's gone, change of philosophy, Derek Henry's gone. So
maybe you open up Commanders. You look at the roster. Uh,
there's a lot of decent component parts. What it does
it make voltron or do they act as independent operatives?
I get it? Uh. And then the Vikings are still
at seven and a half wins, starting to pressure down
a little bit because of there was hope for McCarthy. Uh.
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And then the Saints at seven and a half along
with the Seahawks. Buccaneers are only at seven and a
half as are the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Have you seen?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Oh, by the way, have you seen now it's rebounded
that now, Uh, there's many experts that think the Viking
is gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Sam Donald's gonna be great again? Like now is gonna
that your guy? I mean, but I mean it's the
Gino Smith effect, right. It took a long time to
you know, get his mind cleaned of anything he was
subjected to and and had its famously all those years ago.
(26:04):
And now for Sam Donald, he's been out of that
ring of fire for a couple of years. So maybe
maybe ex Jet now good because Kevin O'Connell has him fixed.
He's got Jefferson, he's got Addison who averted serious injury
the other day. And you got TJ. Hawkinson and Aaron Jones.
That's a pretty good, you know quartet there. It's not
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the Beatles, well it's not the Beatles, but it's good
Hawkinson at some point, you know, when he comes back.
But look, but this is what drives me crazy about
this story this week is that JJ McCarthy gets hurt
and suddenly Sam Donald is a top fifteen fantasy quarterback
and so many pundits and experts and analysts and players
are on social media going, look at this throw, Sam's
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gonna be really good, and I just want to I
want to say.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
What are you people stupid?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I mean really, I mean a guy doesn't suddenly get
good because the guy behind him gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
It doesn't work that well. He now he doesn't have
to look over it. No, no, no, no, I mean
over there over his shoulder.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Now it is Matt carrall, come on, hey, and Sam Donald,
I don't have to worry about getting a pinch nerve
from looking over his shoulder.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
In other positions, I understand, right, if a big pass
catcher gets hurt, Okay, that's one hundred and fifty targets
that are now going to be divided up, and people
are going to elevate. The number two becomes a number one,
and everybody slides up because he's gone. But it doesn't
work that way for quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
A guy is what he is. And I've seen Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Now through three teams, and the guy I still don't
think he knows what he sees when he looks downfield.
He misses open receivers all the time. He doesn't have
the right reads. I'm telling you things that I've seen
from the last three years, how many times you have
to see a play Sam Donald. Here's an incomplete pass.
Boy in the backside, he had so and so who
was He just doesn't see it right. He's a guy
that throws the ball downfield in hopes. We've seen enough
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of him. Could he be a Geno Smith. The possibility
is always out there, but it's but Gino Smith had
to actually play well for people to say, hey, hey,
Geno Smith. Sam Donald hasn't played well and people are
all of a sudden like, yeah, look, this guy's gonna
be great. Oh look at this dig route he threw
in the first preseason game. No one's posting on social media.
Hey the other five or six passes where he overthrew
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a receiver and looked terrible.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Oh, but look at this past Sam.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
A quarterback just doesn't get good because the guy behind
him gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
If he was good, he would keep the job.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Whether if it was in fantasy you would say it
was a top fifteen fantasy quarterback, well he would be.
If you think he's that good, that means he's keeping
the job all season. He's not, because if a guy
is that good, he's not gonna be good and then
seed the job to JJ McCarthy in week six. Either
the guy is good or he isn't. We've seen enough
of Sam Darnold, and it was and it's.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Been nuts for me.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And I can say this because our boss Scott Shapiro,
who's a huge Vikings fan, is in Italy right now
and not listening.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I could say this. He's terrible.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He stinks it's not gonna be a great season, and
to all of a sudden problemably Okay, now we'd believe
in saida No, dude, it doesn't work that way. It
doesn't work that way for quarterbacks. He's the same quarterback
he was before JJ McCarthy got hurt. All of a sudden,
his throws didn't get better, his pass didn't get better.
He wouldn't be on his fourth team if he was
still any good. So all of the suddenly, Oh, Sam Darna, dude,
(29:04):
it's not happening.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yes, am I always afraid that an ex jet can
go someplace else and really light it up. Yes, of course,
that's why I keep tabs on Geno and Sam and
Zach Wilson, who was awful beginning of Broncos camp now
he's playing well in Broncos cap.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yes, I owe.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I never want that to happen. But I'm telling you,
I'm not worried about those guys. I'm not worried about
either of those guys coming in and lighting up the
league and suddenly, oh, look at this X Jets Sam Dar.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
No, I'm not worried about that gene Oh Geno. Remember
Gino had to do it for a full season and
people still hated him.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, well because he became.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
About his receivers and his running backs and whatever else.
That it was everything about coaching and none of him
actually having skill. And that's with a full season under
his belt. Because remember when he got paid, you would
have thought the fifth ring of Hell had opened up.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It was. It was insane. And now there's been an
issue with him so far this season of about going full. Look,
all you had to do is have one season that
wasn't great and suddenly, oh, Geno's not that great, right,
and now he's now like is he at odds with
the team? Like I don't even know. There's so much
weird stuff going on in Seattle with Gino and the team,
and hey, you're your favorite head coach.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Is ready for the job and to quell any of
those concerns. Yeah, but dude, I mean, Sam, do come
from not happy. But I did it a different way.
I was created. That's true. I say you're not up
for the job.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
When I say you're not up for a job and
you're not ready for what's going on and the job
is too much for you, that's the same. But that's
how I saw it.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
This isn't saying I see this is you, This is
you're You're not le inept and you're two and fifteen.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
This is very specific stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
When you when you can't stop your team from having
fights at practice and you stop practice to talk to
them and they still fight after and they don't listen
to you.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I I don't think.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
This is good. This is gonna go well.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't think you're up for it if the team
doesn't and you allow them to finish practice after having
five fights in a day. Yeah, let's keep practicing un
till the end. D What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
By the way, you know, just while we're on that
subject and we're talking about Sam Donald, whatever, how about
the fact that O'Connell went over to try to ask, Hey,
can you guys tone it down a little for the
rest of the practice.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, guys, can you we just
we need just a little alone volume pits.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Okay, we got guys dropping like flies over here. Can
you can you read it back a bit? All right?
Just just go find some cardboard standouts of the uh
of one direction or something and make them the defenders. Then,
so there's your teams that should be vying for the
number one pick in the draft. Why Sam Donald? I
am not worried about him suddenly letting the league on fire.
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Coming up next, we're talking about returns a lot the
last couple of days in sports, right the return of
the NFL Week two of the preseason, maybe the return
of Tom Brady if he still wants to try to
come back and play. Tom Brady could do that.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
But something came back last night that I didn't think
I would miss as much as I did, And boy,
did I really miss it.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
That's next right here, Jason and Mike.
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Speaker 1 (32:27):
Jason Smith Mike Harmon in for Doug Gottlie Today our
show normally heard nights here on Fox Sports Radio seven
to eleven Pacific time. Look big returns this week? Right,
we're to week two of the NFL preseason. Rady may
be coming back. And I didn't think I would be
this excited. But I can't the Premier League in ninety
first minute yep. No, middle of the week, middle of
(32:49):
the day, right, No, let's go back.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And also now, last night the WNBA came back, and
I really didn't realize how much I missed it until
the last couple of days ago. Man, I gotta wait
till Thursday for them to play again, because it's been fun.
The conversation's been fun. Whether or not they love Caitlyn
Clark hate Caitlyn Clark. We're propping up Angel Reese. We're
telling you Angel Reese is great. Whatever it is, it's
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been so much fun to talk about. It's like I've
missed the games and now, hey, they've had a month
off since, you know, for the Olympic break, and now
they got back at it last night, and tonight Caitlyn
Clark and the Fever play, and I really I feel
like it's almost like when you you end a school
year and you say goodbye to your friends, and and
(33:35):
you know you have your summer friends who may be
a little bit different from your school friends, and then
you get to point you're like, man, I'm excited to
see my old friends again when school starts in the month.
Like that's kind of how I felt about the w
and ba hey we're a month away. We got a
month there, starting back up pretty soon. I can't get
over how excited I was.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Well, we wish we would have gotten better games with it.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Well, you can't control the games, no, no, or the
New York bela last like one hundre in sixty to seven.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, we turned that game off. We were watching it
before our show started. Looked at each other and what
the hell is this? Turnovers? And then man, look you
can pile up some rebounds though, so you got that going.
I actually I saw a couple of people in the
twitter verse posting up the legendary stat line that Angel
Rees put up yesterday. I'm like, did you watch any
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of the game?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
No, come on, man, and yeah, I mean, look all
the look.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Angel Reese is a terrific player, and she's probably the
second most popular player the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, and then you got Asia Wilson and in escu, right,
you got three or four women. And then Kelsey Plumb
is the one everybody loves. Not quite the Sydney Sweeney
side of things, No, a lot of viral sensation, you
know when she smokes cigars and celebrates taking time to heal.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
But it's they're all looking up and you can't even
see Caitlyn Clark with her popularity.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
There's a difference in even in WNBA Knights, there's Caitlin
Clark Knights when she plays, and there's non Kate Clark Knights.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Like that's how it is.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Like last night a WNBA was back, Angel Revees had
a bad game four out of fourteen, but she pulled
down fifteen rebounds.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
People can say, oh, look, at this she gets real.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Look how many rebounds she gets that are just uncontested
that she just gets, you know, because the ball is
bouncing and it bounces to her. Right, She's a terrific player.
But to say that, she said that any of these
players popularity wise, are in the league of Caitlyn Clark. No,
with this month off and this month to look back
and say, Okay, we've had the first half of the
WNBA season, Caitlin Clark has changed the league.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I told you in the beginning she was going to
be Magic and Larry for this league. When Magic and
Larry came to the NBA, this is going to be
the equivalent of her coming to the WNBA.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
And so far that's what it's been.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But you look back now with a month to sit
back and say, I think even the most reticent of
people and the most jealous of players has to say, Okay,
this is Caitlyn's league, right, the WNBA players, the fans,
off the this is Caitlin's league. There was just as
much publicity for Caitlyn Clark what she was doing away
from the Olympics as the Olympic team themselves. That didn't
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get the television ratings didn't have as much eyeballs on
them because none of them were Caitlin Clark, even these
players that came back, and however much they kept her
off the team because they didn't want her. They have
to understand this is Caitlin Clark's league. Doesn't need to
be the best player, but she is the show and
this is how it should be for the next understanding
from now on that, however reticent you are, to accept it,
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you got to accept it. It's Caitlin Clark's league. It
will just be better for everyone if they get on
board with that and let her continue to lift this
league up like she has the last few months.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, on the quick thing from the Olympic side, it
wasn't as aesthetically pleasing and fluid as it might have been,
but you still managed to meet the expectations and take
your gun. Your guards were bad though, Your guards were
not well except you, except in the final game. They
actually showed up in the final game. But yeah, we
got mercury and fever later on today. Remember Dizeger had
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the shot right, what was it? Eighteen games in the
WNBA were over a million viewers this year, and sixteen
of them had. Caitlin Clark is one of the main characters.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And I'll tell you this, She's had a month off.
She's lived her best life, met Aaron Judge, gone to
country music concerts, gone to the beach. Watch her now
come and take this next month and say, Okay, now
it's really my league.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Watch her.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I've had time off now that she needed because she
was playing for so long. Watch her dominate. Watch what
she does in the last month of this season. I'm
telling you it's gonna happen. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon in
for Doug Gottlieb Today, Twitter at how about a Fresco?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Mike at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Coming up next Cafino and Rich, although I believe Rich
has been replaced by the Hawk tour Girl for today's show.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
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