August 20, 2024 • 40 mins
On tonight’s edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike analyze Ohio State and argue that head coach Ryan Day faces the most pressure in the NCAA, despite his impressive track record with the powerhouse Big Ten school. Next, Jason and Mike discuss Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa throwing shade to his former Dolphins HC Brian Flores. Finally, the guys dive into the Los Angeles Chargers and react to head coach Jim Harbaugh's remarks on QB Justin Herbert's return to the field.
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the ninth inning. The White Sox do have the leadoff
runner on down by two, the recent lee eliminated from
the playoff. Chicago White Sox looking for win number thirty
one on the season. Remember, just gotta get the forty one.
Don't want to be the worst team in baseball history.
(01:13):
Just gotta get eleven more wins. Need a little bit
of help, but they do have the leadoff runner on
the ninth ning, my Carmen, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I will say this, My kids know me well enough,
and while they don't really pay a ton of attention
to baseball, they know I love the White Sox and
they certainly love the gear, right, the colors, the logos, everything,
and when the gear comes from my brothers, the giveaways
and all, they will steal them as appropriate. Especially the
hockey sweater are always a big, big, first item to
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fight over. But they're well aware of how bad the
team is and what it does to my psyche, and
they're like, hey, you know, it looks like that Bears
quarterback is gonna.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Be pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Though he showed up in my timeline. I go, why
is Caleb Williams showing up in your timeline? And eleanor
my older daughter, who is a big theater kid, so
it's a lot of stuff off Broadway casting and all
this other stuff, Suddenly she's getting Caleb Williams stuff. She goes,
I don't know. We must have talked about it enough
(02:15):
when I asked you how your day was that the
walls had years, because otherwise this makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's like it's like AI is saying, we think you're
interested in all things Chicago, but obviously not the White Sox.
Let's get them other things for them to be happy about.
We want our people to be happy and then come
buy things on the internet showing them. Caleb Williams, Well,
I figured it would start feeding in more shots of
Richard Gear singing, giving the old razzle dazzle, or something
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more in line with her interests and pursuits. But I'm
glad if just a little bit there's a knowledge of
what's going on sports wise in my Chicago fandom. Meanwhile,
laughing at me that I'm sitting there eagerly awaiting mid
day EPU, something that I don't think either of them
would have envisioned five to seven years ago. This family's
(03:05):
not clicking on Chicago stories. Well enough, show pictures of
Mike Ditka, show pictures of Super Bowl shuffle, thank you, show.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Pictures of bowl of sausage, show pictures of a Deep
Bitch pizza, and some Jardinaire.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Show the river died green for Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Please click on this, Please click on this.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And then it has gotten a note underneath that says, hey,
this is actually the color of the river.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yes, just the screen. Yeah, it's still a little bit yet.
We kind of do it in March and then it
just kind of we wait till it just washes out
after a few thousand watches.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Look, we brought you the story of Mike Gundy, Oklahoma
State head coach. You know, he's a man, he's forty
and uh, he's gonna be the latest guy to quit
his head coach because the nil era is too much
for him. Another coach who ridiculously is going to be
in the crosshairs this year. There is nobody with more
pressure on him in all of college football this year.
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Nobody with more pressure than Ohio State head coach Ryan Day. Nobody,
nobody Ohio State. Today, the preseason All America list came out.
They put four players on the first team. Okay, four
players on the FRED. Now that figure out quarterback and okay,
it's not Cjstraatza, but they got four players on the
first team. That the number two team in the country.
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I thought they'd wind up being number one. But hey,
we still love Georgia. Yes, okay, yes, you look they
like Carson Beck and Georgia. No, they look they like
Carson Beck. And Georgia more than they like Ohio State
and whoever winds up being the quarterback after week one.
So I get that. I get that part of it.
But this is a year man where Ryan Day's record
is like ninety six and five and his losses have
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been three to Michigan and two in the playoff. I mean,
he's got an unbelievable, unbelievable track record in Ohio State,
and yet they all want them out. The fans won
them out. There's a big push to get him out.
The big alumni want him out because why the last
three years he couldn't beat Michigan and he had to
watch Michigan win the Big Ten, go to the playoff
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three years in a row and win the national championship.
Short of a Big Ten title, beating Michigan and winning
a game in the playoff, like Ryan Day's gonna be out,
Like they're gonna find a way to say, no, there's
another guy out there that we're gonna bring in that's
gonna get us those extra cup which is just insane
and it makes no sense. But that's how irrational things
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are with Ohio State. They got used to twenty years
of excellence of beating Michigan and winning the Big Ten
and going on. I understand. But then Michigan started getting
the plays and things started changing. This is the new
world now. But the pressure for Ryan Day because this
is a down year for Michigan right now, that's the
big thing. It's not just that Ohio State could be
loaded with another Ohio State type team again, it's just
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Michigan starting over. It's a new head coach, it's a
new quarterback. There's lots of new players and positions. Yes,
Michigan still had three players on the first team All American,
let's including their tight end. But still you're starting over.
It's new at coach, new quarterback, new lots of things.
You still don't know what the penalties are gonna be
for Michigan if you don't do it this year. I
read Ryan Day is not gonna make it to coach
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twenty twenty five with Ohio State, beat Michigan, win the
Big Ten, and win a playoff game, right because with
twelve teams this year, it's gonna be bigger and that's
gonna be awesome. Not saying you gotta get all the way,
but you know, instead of making the playoff, which would
have been the big goals. Now get there, win a
playoff game, maybe not win a national championship, but give
us something to be excited about when we get to
the end of the season and win a playoff game,
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and show us that, Okay, we can win a Big ten,
we can beat Michigan, and we can go forward. If
any of those things don't happen, that's it for him.
If he loses to Michigan, forget it. He's got the
longest losing street to Michigan. I don't even know if
what hey Hayes lost this many games to Michigan in
a row, you got that, you got no Big ten.
That's gonna be it, and it's gonna be Ryan Day's
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gonna go I'm eighty five and five and they want me. Yeah,
And he'll get a big job somewhere else because he's
a great head coach.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You don't win games like this by accident. But this
shows you how crazy and insane the pressure is that
if he doesn't do those things, he's gonna be out
in Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Fifty six and eight is what I see on the
official Ohio State website, and it has it broken down
thusly at home thirty one and two, Away and neutral
twenty five and six. Okay, Now this is where it
gets interesting and where maybe you like some of these
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data points, maybe you don't. I'll start from the good
and work my way backward. Versus the Big ten thirty
nine and three, okay, a couple of Big ten championships
you know you're getting after it, versus the top twenty five,
eighteen and eight, versus the Top ten eight and seven
versus the top five, two and six. So it comes
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back to a question when Harball was under fire before
everybody decided to love him, and now we have you know,
Connor stallions and all these things and the relentless enthusiasm
of the last couple of years. But remember when everybody's
trying to run him out of town, and it's like, hey,
you got to look in the mirror and realize where
you're at, what you're doing, and who you've been. And
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for Ohio State to a you know, got to make
that similar look in the mirror and kind of decide
where you're at and where you're headed. Especially, and it
changed Big ten because if Michigan's down this year, how
far down are they really? And you talk about sanctions.
We don't know what's going to come out of the
counter Stallion's thing at this point. You know, they did
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the show cause for harrorball over cheeseburgers, recruiting and everything
off COVID, which again is still insane that we're litigating
that four years later. But welcome to the NCAA. But
for the arrival of Oregon and Washington and some of
these other squad you're you're not getting to run through
the big ten like you did, right, it's bigger whatever
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USC and UCLA become in this new iteration of the conference,
like it's a whole.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Dude, when you're not gonna dodge any of those teams
because it's right, USC and UCLA and they want to play, Hey,
we want to play Ohio. We want to play Ohio
State there and back at our place every year. This
helps recruiting for us, Like this is gonna be where hey,
Ohio State gets looking at they dodge USC in Washington
and Mission. No, No, it doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
They go, They're gonna play all these teams every year,
you're gonna get most of them, right, So I mean
you look at their schedule, this year. Yeah, you've got
Akron and Western Michigan and Marshall out of the gate.
That's fine. Then you're on the road at Michigan State
IOWA top twenty five team. They're they're a little bit
of a sleeper kind of like we're saying, if you
can get the offense right and in Pittsburgh that the
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Steelers could be dangerous. Funny, the color schemes are the same. WHOA.
Then you're on the road. You've got the game against Oregon,
middle of October, home game against Nebraska no slouches this year,
on the road at Penn State, then the Boiler Makers
at home, then on the road in the makeshift world.
Uh that that is Northwestern i e. Or at Wrigleyfield. Uh,
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and then Indiana before the date with Michigan. I mean,
that is not an easy schedule to navigate.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And it's gonna be I mean, just to and if
if they lose a game before Michigan, like it's gonna
go south so fast. Like I really I don't know
how to know how Ryan Day enjoys being a head coach,
Like every week you're supposed to win, and when you do,
and what does he get an hour after the game
to enjoy himself before Okay, you better win this week
or that. Not like it wasn't like that for harbaught Michigan,
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it wasn't like that for Saban, But for him it's
I really don't know, like when winning is a relief
and it's and it's it's not fun, Like, I don't
know how you can enjoy it. I don't know how
we can enjoy it because he knows if he wins,
he's supposed to win, and if he loses, well, I
guess what you're gonna But that's.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
What we just talked about with the Olympic squads, right,
I mean both the men's and women's sides in basketball,
and then when they won, it wasn't stylistic enough, it
wasn't sexy enough. You didn't cover, you didn't back your
backers who bet on the Red, white, and blue plus
minus sixteen and a half and all of those things.
(11:22):
So yeah, it's you're you're in a tough spot. And
it just got that much more complicated with the changing
of the conference. Exciting and highly entertaining for us and
big noon kickoff and everything else associated with that. But yeah,
for Ryan Day, every he doesn't have the natural enemy
of Harbaugh anymore. She can at least say, all right,
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I'm fighting that guy. Yeah, how it becomes just the
monolith of the school and everything else.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I mean, it's it's just an insane amount of pressure
that he shouldn't have to have because the guy's a
great color and there's nobody out there that's gonna say, oh, yeah,
I'm the guy to get you those extra that extra
win every No. Really, really, you think there's a guy
that that's gonna do everything he did, end is gonna
do that little bit. But who's that guy? Who's that guy?
There's nobody out there that's gonna come take that job.
There's nobody. Are there great head coaches one hundred percent?
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Are there phenomenal head coaches one hundred percent? Who's available
that's gonna come take that job? No, there's nobody. There's nobody.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Man, Well, we were just talking about Gundhy potentially leading
bunch of your best coaches. They're looking around going this sucks.
I don't want to do this.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Hey here, look, here's all. Here's all the proof you need.
You know, My wife Michigan alum right, everything else? How
big it is, she says to me today. She says,
I just got this, uh this text. Can I read
it to you? And I said sure, And she goes,
at the end of your life, no one's gonna remember
where you worked or how many hours you spent at
the office. I'm going, oh, it's one of those you know,
spend time with your family there. I'm like, well, we
spent time every day we're together. But she goes, but
(12:51):
I look at it. She goes, just keep going. I said, Okay,
she goes. At the end of your life, no one's
gonna remember how many how many hours you spent at
the office, what your job title was, what kind of
car you drove. But everybody's going to remember that. It's
been seventeen and twenty four days since Ohio State's beaten Michigan.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I've seen one with red Panda from the halftime shows
an image of her. Yeah, I've seen the uh the
famous first pitch that we talked about a little bit
of your mets that everybody point. Folks just need hugs.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
They don't like the hawk to they don't like hawk
to e.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
But like, does anybody really pay attention to the first
pitch in the stadium?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Apparently apparently they do. But that's but that's you know,
but that's typical Mets, Like, yes, the Yankees have all
the pay we have Grimerson Hawk toa that's kind of
our identity. I'm okay, so we are.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's for the lean into the viral sensations that they are.
But you know, for folks that got really mad about
that and started the soapbox about that, I'll come to
your station and I'll give you the hug you need.
I'll bring you some ice cream. We'll chat it out
and you can you can let me know who hurts
you in your sporting world.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Good lord throwing out the first pitch for the Yankees tonight,
All the surviving presidents, starting with Bill Clinton, George Bush,
Barack Obama, Donald Trump throwing out the first pitch for
the Mets, the Hawk to a girl like that's okay,
and I'm okay with right, I'm okay with it, Like
that's how it goes, right, That's that's that's how it
is who you are, right, we get we get talk
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to now.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So you got that. But like on both sides, you
mentioned seven and twenty four days they been counting. Is
that you've had the runs of from past coaches right
where they've had good success or at least been you know,
five hundred plus in those rivalry rivalry games, and then
you hit bad streaks, like watching you know, a Major
League Base Paul All Star Game. Yeah the American League
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won again. Hey, but this time it doesn't count. But
these take out it doesn't count. These these all take
on a life of their own right. We build up
to it with each subsequent win. I mean, how much
how much product do you think Ryan Day uses in
a year to keep the hair and beard just jet black,
(15:06):
all of it, all of it a bottle James did
during the Olympics. He was either going to be my
excuses I'm old and they relied too much on me,
or look how old I am.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It'd be a president's photo when they took office, when
they leave office, Ryan Day, look at him.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
That's kind of where we're at with Ryan Day. I
wish him good luck, uh in a wonderful season because
you know we'll all be watching and me, being the
big ten apologist that I am, I need them challenging
with Oregon down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
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and I'll tell you I did not have two a
tunnel I looa lighting up blan Brian Laurus on my
bingo card. Of things we're going to talk about coming
off of Week two in the NFL preseason.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
No, not at all. I mean a lot of things
and quarterback debates, coaching hot seats, maybe some talk of
teams you're either sold on or that you're selling all
your futures in all of those things, which games you're
not gonna watch in order to just take a walk
around the park or a nap. But no to a
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tongue of Iloa piping up about his former coach you
know of long ago now not on the Bingo KRT.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
This was a bit of a shock today to a
tongue of I looa goes on Dan Levittard's podcast and
talks about former head coach Brian Flores. Remember Flores was
the head coach before he got let go and Mike
McDaniel came in and with his short pants and big
feet really has turned the Dolphins around. Turned to a
tongue of Ailoa's fortunes around and two. Has become a
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terrific quarterback, a top ten quarterback in the game, just
got a huge two hundred thirty million dollar contract extension.
Mike McDaniel's done some things. Brian Flores now the defensive
coordinator with the Minnesota Vikings. Who remember flores first couple
of years in the league when he was the head
coach of the Dolphins. There seemed to be a bit
of a push pull ay. As much as the Dolphins
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want Tua to be a star, doesn't seem like everybody's
on the same page, are they. They all believe in
Tua being great. There were rumors they were going to
trade him. Maybe we'll trade them for Jalen Hurts. All
these things were going out there. It was kind of
crazy that boy certainly feels like they picked a guy
in the first round and there's factions in the organization
that want to keep them in, factions that don't want him. Well,
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Flores gets let go, and then Flores has a very
high profile case against the NFL that he was let
go and the team wanted him to tank, and he
was told the tank so they could get a high
draft pick and it was a really big deal for
about a year. Well now it's been a little while,
and Tua decides to say, you know what, Now I'm comfortable.
Now I'll talk about what it was like playing for
Brian Flores's couple of years ago Here he was and
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Dan Levitard's podcast comparing what it was like to playing
under Brian Flores calling him a horrible person. Take a
listen to put it.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
In simplest terms, if you woke up every morning and
I told you you suck at what you did, that
you don't belong doing what you do, that you shouldn't
be here, that this guy should be here, that you
haven't earned this right, And then you have somebody else
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come in and tell you, dude, you are the best
fit for this, Like you are accurate, you are the
best whatever you are, this you are that, Like how
would it make you feel listening to one or the other?
You see what I'm saying, and then you hear it.
You hear it regardless of what it is, the good
or the bad, and you hear it more and more.
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You start to actually believe that, I don't care who
you are. You could be the president of the United States.
You have a terrible person that's telling you things that
you don't want to hear or that you probably shouldn't
be hearing. You're gonna start to believe that about yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So there he was. He would tell him how much
he sucked every day and said he was a terrible person. Now,
this is this is not something you normally get, even
Baker Mayfield talking about Hugh Jackson. Wasn't this bad when
he was saying what it was like playing for a
former head coach. But this is what you get. And
this is Toua finally feeling comfortable in saying what he
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said now to give you something a little different than
what you've heard all day about this story. Right, no
matter who you believe, because the Vikings, I'm sure are
gonna have something to say, and there's gonna be some
kind of comment from Brian Flores, their defensive coordinator already.
Kevin O'Connell said tonight, Hey, uh, he's got great relationships
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with everybody on our team. Don't worry. We love Brian Flores. Like, oh,
here comes damage control.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
What the hell else is he gonna say?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, everybody is him here too?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They tell you the man, But I think they're frothing
at the mouth, and in week one, all the hate
and vitriol in those film rooms is gonna show up
on the field and we'll be off to a great start. No,
he's not gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Hey, hey, Kevin, Yeah, I got good news and badness
for you. Okay, what everybody's gonna stop asking you about
JJ McCarthy and Sam Darnold. Great, what's the bad news? Well,
here's what they're gonna ask.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
You talk about a guy you hired for your coaching staff.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Wait now I want to go back to McCarthy and Donald.
Let's go back. No, but look, but this is the
big thing. This is the different A little bit different
here is that? Look? Is tu one hundred percent? Do
you believe Tua?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Because I knew there was It was a bad relationship
when it was going on, It wasn't great. But no
matter what level you believe of Tua, Brian Flores is
gonna have a different version. I'm sure of things going on.
No matter what you believe, the bottom line is this
failure and what happened with Tua is on Brian Flores.
It is one hundred percent on him. Why because a
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coach's role is to get the player that you are
coaching to be the best version of themselves. That's the
one thing that's how you wind up winning. You want
your quarterback to be in the right frame of mine
to succeed. You want to put him in a position
to succeed, not in a position to be questioning what
he does all the time. And that's a big fail
by Brian Flores because he did not do that with
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tu a tongue of iiloo. Whether he really believed he's stunk,
it doesn't matter, because this is the guy we picked
in the first round. Try to make it work. Are
you trying to not make it work? And try to
make it work with this guy. That's why we got him.
Try to make it work. That's your job as a
head coach, win games. Try to make it work. Now,
whether he didn't want to do it, he didn't like him,
didn't think he was any good, that's bad enough. But
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if he did it because hey, this is my way
to coach. For me, honestly, that's even worse because not
everybody can you coach the same And maybe Brian Flores
is an old school guy, where hey, I can coach
through negative reinforcement, and I can tell you that you
stink because that's the way I was coached. That's the
way I came up, and I get that now is
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the way that motivated me to get better. Yeah, this
is twenty twenty four generation Z. They don't respond like that.
They don't respond to that kind of negative, negative energy.
I know, just coaching youth sports for the last ten years,
what kind of energy generations the kids respond to. They
don't respond to negative, They don't respond to being told
you stink? Right, I mean it's different. Every generation is different,
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and it's up to the coach to be able to say,
how do I reach this one player. This doesn't mean
every player won't believe what won't respond to negative? Hey
you stink tonight? Well you tell me I stink, I'm
gonna go kick ass. Right. But everybody is different, especially
your quarterback, and you have to understand, okay, am I
doing the right thing by him? Because you could see
the tour was struggling. So at some point that light
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bulb's gotta go off and you have to go, oh, well,
how I'm doing it's not working. Let me try something different.
Let me try reinforcing things with him, being positive with him, saying,
let me try that and see if that works. You
know what, Look what happened, because it worked. All Mike
McDaniel has done, has come in, has propped to up,
tell him how great he is, put him in position
to win, gotten weapons around him, and look it to it.
He is thriving right now. He is the face of
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the Dolphins franchise. They love him down there as teammates
love him. As long as he can keep throwing deep
to Tyreek Hill, everybody's gonna love him. But this is
your job as a coach is to succeed with the
players you have. And this was a fail on Brian
Flores because clearly to had the talent because you could
see it here, right, You see it here with Mike McDaniel,
Like we used to always joke around with the Phillies.
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Maybe it was Joe Girardi's fault because man, since they
got rid of Joe Girardey, look how good this team is.
I can say that. Yet it was there for Tua
all along. And this is on Brian Flop. This that
it didn't work out, This is on Brian Flores.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
But we always talk about it with coaching not only
the energy in a locker room, and not that everybody's
got to be best friends. And you know, wherever you work,
you're not best friends with everybody there, but you at
least all pushing in the same direction. And maybe it's
a common enemy. And maybe Flores to a degree could
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have become that guy, but it always seemed, you know,
that it was focused on the relationship with his quarterback, who,
as we acknowledge in sports, is the most important person
on any any sporting squad except maybe your goalie in
ice hockey or in the soccer world. Could we could
maybe throw that up a little bit if we want
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to expand that out. Otherwise, you know, you've got to
figure out what's gonna make them best. How many failed relationships,
failed regimes have been because they couldn't figure out what
quarterback best fit what they were trying to do, or
you know, the real new approach of hey, we really
like this guy for a million reasons, How do we
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change what we have to fit what they do best,
which is something nobody does or very few teams have adopted. Right,
maybe it's becoming in vogue, but it's also recognizing the player. Right,
how much of Caleb Williams. Discussion was about Caleb Williams
the player, not a ton, not a ton. Maybe a
little bit about you know that secondary tertiary read and
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getting through those progressions. But other than that, he's a
hell of an athlete. Everything was about his temperament, whether
he would get along, whether he was a deva or not.
I know, some folks had a field day with him saying, hey,
let's take care of the locker room like that was
out of line for a leader of a team and
a rookie to say, I'm looking at you, Amani Tumor.
Most prevalently you got a lot of run and folks
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realized you were in the media in that moment, so
that was good. But it was just the idea that,
you know, you got a guy taking charge and from
all reports and from anything, that was the one thing
I think you could take out of Hard Knocks other
than that they have an ice cream museum now in Chicago,
is that his teammates love him. So you've got that
going for Tua. He's at a place, he got his
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bag and evidently is comfortable enough saying it. You know,
you want a chance let into your performance and and
go have the big year and then come back over
the top probably would have been the better approach, because
you know, he's gonna get skewered by the usual suspects
for this outlet earlier today. But if it puts him
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at peace that he set his piece and and the
balls now in Florida's court to respond or we'll see
what other players have to say about it, so be it.
I mean, obviously Miami is a team we're looking forward
to with a lot of talent and our new favorite guy,
Ricky Moster. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean you got all
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that going on that you know, it's it's all set
up for them to at least be contenders in the
AFC East and and maybe make a push deep into
the playoffs. But if this unburdens him by having that
little cathartic moment with LeBatard, all the better for him.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Just know that, you know, all the folks of you suck.
It's not coming from inside the film room. Just don't
don't go to social media because I'm sure you have
plenty of fans and pundits doing the usual you're soft,
why are you doing this, and the usual rhetoric that
flows out of something.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Like this exit out a bout of Fresco Swollen Dome.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen Love from the
Tyraq dot com studios coming up next, a guy who
also would tell us we suck every single night. It
was really hard with negative influence, and still he is
here working at Steve Desager with what's trending in the
world of sport.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You suck?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
You check ass.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I didn't know where you were going with that, and
now I really don't like where you're going with that.
Everything is final in Major League Baseball. The Dodgers shut
out Seattle three nothing. Mariners offense, showing their colors again
two for twenty eight at the plate, twelve strikeouts, the
loss to Brian wu who had been five and one.
Gavin Stone eleven and five gets the win for the Dodgers.
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He struck out ten in seven innings, and Max Munsey,
back at third base tonight off the injured list, homered.
The Mariners are now five games behind Houston for first
in the Al West. Houston, on a solo homer bottom
of the ninth, beat Boston five to four. San Diego
was a winner over Minnesota five to three. The Padre
is still three games back at the first place Dodgers
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in the NL West. Arizona is still four back. The
Diamondbacks won at Miami nine to six. Attendance in Miami
seven thousand, three eighteen, and then there's Oakland attendance three
thousand and nine thirty eight. Tonight, the A's shut out
Tampa Bay three nothing. Rais offense went two for thirty
with eleven strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Aren't the A's still like, like since May one the
best team in baseball? No?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
No, I like that, No.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Not even different. Their record is like the record is
like really good. He's one of the top five records
in baseball. It's better than you think.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
That's as far as I'll go.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Thank you better than you think. That should be the
motto for the A's the last two months. Come see
the A's better than you think.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Yeah, exactly. We'll put up that all over Sacramento next year. Actually,
San Francisco had a home game as well tonight. Giants
are over the five hundred mark sixty four and sixty
three after beating the White Sox five to three. The
White Sox record now thirty and ninety six this year.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Let's see how old Grady Sizemore is by October.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Yes, is it possible for the interim skipper not to
make it to the end of the season. Kidsas City
won its fifth straight game, five to three over the Angels.
Seth Lugo fourteen and seven got the win. The Mets
on a solo homer bottom of the ninth edged Baltimore
four to three. The Orioles were tied with the Idle
Yankees for first in the Al East. Yankees will host
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Slump in Cleveland starting tomorrow. Cincinnati with a win as
well six ' three at Toronto Braves Third Basement, Austin
Riley will miss six to eight weeks with a broken hand.
He was hit by a pitch yesterday. The regular season
ends in six weeks. Already out for the year for
Atlanta Our stars Ronald Acunya and pitchers Spencer Streyder. Atlanta
All Star pitcher Ronaldo Lopez, though we'll return from rehab
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assignment to start tomorrow against first place Phillies. Cleveland pitcher
Alex Cobb goes on the injured list with a broken nail.
Raised closer Pete Fairbanks on the il with a lat strain.
Pirates third baseman, keep Brian Hayes on the IL with
lower back inflammation, and Diamondbacks All Stars second baseman could
tell Marquee marte Is on the IL with a sprained ankle.
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Tyler Reddick won NASCAR's Cup race reign delayed at Michigan.
The Washington Commanders officially named rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels their starter,
and Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert resume practicing today for the
first time this month. He had been in a walking
boot with foot injury. Quarterback Colt McCoy retired back to you.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right, now I have it here, Steve, No fair
looking you either, Harmon?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
What? Okay?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Where do the A's rank in Major League Baseball record
since July first?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Since July?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Since July, the Diamondbacks have the best record.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
No surprise, Andreser great as well.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Andres Er second. Diamondbacks number one, Padres number two. They're right,
They're pretty much even with each other. Where are the.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
A's uh eleventh?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Army fifteenth? The A's have the fourth best record, kid Wall.
Since July first, they are twenty four and fifteenth. They
have a better record than the Mets and Grimace although
Grimace started in June. But since July first, the A's
have the fourth best record in baseball. And you know, the.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
A's at home are up to a five hundred record
after this win. So for all of those three nine
hundred fans that are fatally going there every night, you
are almost seeing a winning team in your home ballpark.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Look at you are almost seeing what we do though.
Right it's the rolling statistics.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Oaklan A's baseball better than you think.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That's a T shirt right there, and then it's a
picture of like a smart baseball like pointing at his head,
like like looking at you and pointing at his head.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
I was talking on last night's show with Mark Willard,
who of course is from the Bay Area, and I
mentioned last night was the Little League Classic and the
Yankees were playing in it in Williams Fort, and I
had to say out loud, no, Aaron Judge is not
playing at a little league stadium, and Willard said he
will be next year.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Sanch An, Well, yeah, because remember the owner of the
A's promised it. How great is it gonna be that
players like Aaron Judge come visit?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Yeah, don't buy tickets to see the A's of course.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It's the old Clippers way of doing business.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Hey, hey, Cashman, I already said, Judge, so you got
to playhim in every game here next year. Okay, no
sitting him out. People are gonna come. Don't sit about,
Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon
Live from the tyrack dot Com Studios. Coming up next,
a return to practice for one quarterback and not a
moment too soon for his team. That's next right here,
(33:47):
Jason and Mike Fox.
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At this point in the preseason, if you're missing a
star player, you are hoping they return, and they return
soon because your team needs them. Nobody more so than
the Chargers who today got Justin Herbert back at practice
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after a couple of weeks in a walking boot, and
not a moment too soon, because they looked absolutely abysmal
without him, whether it was Easton Stick or Max Duggan
who got waived today, they could not do anything offensively.
This is already a team bereft of playmakers, and maybe
by virtue of just because he was drafted in the
first round, Lad McConkie is the best playmaker they have.
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You have your injured, you have injured running backs that
Jim Harborough is gonna try to make it work with,
and outside of McConkie, just a bunch of receivers you're
throwing in there. They needed Justin Herbert back so bad.
And finally, I feel like Jim Harbaugh is on the
Justin Herbert train, because here he was today talking about
what it was like to get Justin Herbert back. I
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felt like the music should be playing.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I haven't thought I felt.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I thought I heard music, voices.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Of angels, maybe great.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Voices of angels. Oh, look, Justin Herbert's back on the field.
You know, look, I told you watch to see that
Justin Herbert gets traded in the offseason, right like it's been.
It seems like he's been at arms length with Harball
coming in this season. But now look at where they're at,
and they just had a big dose reality of what
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life without Justin Herbert looks like. And suddenly I think maybe, hey,
we're coming around to the fact that maybe Herbert's maybe
Herbert's gonna be around. We got to build a bit
more around him. And we can't just decide we want
to run the football with two guys that can't stay
on the field. So, you know, for in a weird
way for the Chargers, like having Justin Herbert out for
a couple of weeks maybe shocked them back into reality that, hey,
(35:57):
coach may be coming in here with a new system,
in a new way of doing things and energy, and that's great, right,
we need something new, But hey, we got to make
sure that our best player is the guy driving the
bus on this And let's make no mistake, our best
player is Justin Herbert. And maybe I'm finally opening, Maybe
Harbaugh realizes that that I can't just sledgehammer running attack
in and throw it. I feel like it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
This is not Michigan. Yeah, I think with Justin Herbert,
we'd seen in a while ago, Jason where you know,
just described him. That's a football player right in the
most complimentary way other than the sound of angels, that
you'd ever really heard Jim Harbaugh talk about a player, right.
That was always his vote of confidence that guy over
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there that's a football player. Okay, cool, it's pretty basic, pretty,
you know, nondescript, but he gets the seal of approval
from Jim Harbaugh as to what kind of guy he
is in the system that you want to build. So
I always thought there was at least that modicum of
respect and appreciation for what he was. But certainly the
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first two preseason games triple underscored anything that he thought
about him in terms of his ability not just as
a football player, but as an elite football player compared
to what they have if they want to make this
thing run. And I'm excited. We talked with Jason locking
for earlier in the show, and I'd like to see JK.
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Dobbins have himself a career because he's just been beset
by one injury after the next. We've all had appreciation moments,
either watching games or in our fantasy lineups for what
Gus Edwards can be when healthy and move in the line,
and really both guys have a lot of what the
(37:41):
old Harball football player thing is. But for Herbert, I
think it'll be a little more balanced. At least that's
been my assertion more so than I think what you
envisioned this to become. So I think they'll be able
to work in harmony. He won't run the ball thirty
two straight times, It'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I mean they looked so dismal, Mike, I mean really,
I told you without without him, they'd be smack deb
in that are they picking first overall in April? Like
that's how bad? Like there is nobody you can see
more valuable to his team because we can see what
they look like without him, right Like, you know, we
saw we saw Chad Henny win a game, you know,
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for the Chiefs in the playoffs when Patrick Mahomes got hurt.
Not saying that suddenly the Chiefs wouldn't be stuck, but man,
you see they go from hey we are a potential
playoff fringe playoff team. Right was where I'll put the
Chargers without Justin Herbert? It's did they win two games?
I mean, really, that's how bad. That's the lack of
talent on this team because they are starting over. Like,
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how many games do you really think they win without
Justin Herbert? I mean maybe two?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I mean that's what I mean, Like, maybe they win
two games without him.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Oh that's that's a big, tall task. We'll have to
simulate that one out on our little electric football game again.
If the defense stays healthy, that'll keep them in games.
Can they score enough? I gotta say though, that game,
the Battle for l A and that Pittsburgh Buffalo games
two of the most painful things I've ever sat through.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
And yeah, dude, there's not been a lot of great
preseason football. Along with you on that, I'm with.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, he gets every enjoy every one of those Caleb
william highlights because other games you ain't getting much. But hey,
Tyler Bass hit another field goal. Well, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
And the other thing is that, you know, just to
widen this out of it, is that gone are the
seemingly gone other days where when backups play against each
other and guys come in and light up the scoreboard,
right because you used to see that, Hey, here's a
guy trying to be the third string quarterback. He threw
for four touchdowns to get No, that's not the case now.
It's when the backups come in and play it's a
defensive slog and is running the ball and you just
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don't see that anymore. And that's like a last five
year phenomenon. Where boy, when these backups play like, it
just stinks, Like I can't even get bad football that's entertaining.
It's just bad football.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, it's it's not aesthetically pleasing.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Have another drink, exit out about a Fresco exit swollen,
don't worrol'. Just go out for a big mac.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
You know my normal again, That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
tirect dot com studios. Coming up next, Mike and I
tackle the biggest question of the NFL preseason. Will not
only tell you how it's gonna end, but when this
controversy and controversial question will end.
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the ninth inning. The White Sox do have the leadoff
runner on down by two, the recent lee eliminated from
the playoff. Chicago White Sox looking for win number thirty
one on the season. Remember, just gotta get the forty one.
Don't want to be the worst team in baseball history.
(01:13):
Just gotta get eleven more wins. Need a little bit
of help, but they do have the leadoff runner on
the ninth ning, my Carmen, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I will say this, My kids know me well enough,
and while they don't really pay a ton of attention
to baseball, they know I love the White Sox and
they certainly love the gear, right, the colors, the logos, everything,
and when the gear comes from my brothers, the giveaways
and all, they will steal them as appropriate. Especially the
hockey sweater are always a big, big, first item to
(01:44):
fight over. But they're well aware of how bad the
team is and what it does to my psyche, and
they're like, hey, you know, it looks like that Bears
quarterback is gonna.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Be pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Though he showed up in my timeline. I go, why
is Caleb Williams showing up in your timeline? And eleanor
my older daughter, who is a big theater kid, so
it's a lot of stuff off Broadway casting and all
this other stuff, Suddenly she's getting Caleb Williams stuff. She goes,
I don't know. We must have talked about it enough
(02:15):
when I asked you how your day was that the
walls had years, because otherwise this makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's like it's like AI is saying, we think you're
interested in all things Chicago, but obviously not the White Sox.
Let's get them other things for them to be happy about.
We want our people to be happy and then come
buy things on the internet showing them. Caleb Williams, Well,
I figured it would start feeding in more shots of
Richard Gear singing, giving the old razzle dazzle, or something
(02:43):
more in line with her interests and pursuits. But I'm
glad if just a little bit there's a knowledge of
what's going on sports wise in my Chicago fandom. Meanwhile,
laughing at me that I'm sitting there eagerly awaiting mid
day EPU, something that I don't think either of them
would have envisioned five to seven years ago. This family's
(03:05):
not clicking on Chicago stories. Well enough, show pictures of
Mike Ditka, show pictures of Super Bowl shuffle, thank you, show.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Pictures of bowl of sausage, show pictures of a Deep
Bitch pizza, and some Jardinaire.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Show the river died green for Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Please click on this, Please click on this.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And then it has gotten a note underneath that says, hey,
this is actually the color of the river.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yes, just the screen. Yeah, it's still a little bit yet.
We kind of do it in March and then it
just kind of we wait till it just washes out
after a few thousand watches.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Look, we brought you the story of Mike Gundy, Oklahoma
State head coach. You know, he's a man, he's forty
and uh, he's gonna be the latest guy to quit
his head coach because the nil era is too much
for him. Another coach who ridiculously is going to be
in the crosshairs this year. There is nobody with more
pressure on him in all of college football this year.
(04:05):
Nobody with more pressure than Ohio State head coach Ryan Day. Nobody,
nobody Ohio State. Today, the preseason All America list came out.
They put four players on the first team. Okay, four
players on the FRED. Now that figure out quarterback and okay,
it's not Cjstraatza, but they got four players on the
first team. That the number two team in the country.
(04:27):
I thought they'd wind up being number one. But hey,
we still love Georgia. Yes, okay, yes, you look they
like Carson Beck and Georgia. No, they look they like
Carson Beck. And Georgia more than they like Ohio State
and whoever winds up being the quarterback after week one.
So I get that. I get that part of it.
But this is a year man where Ryan Day's record
is like ninety six and five and his losses have
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been three to Michigan and two in the playoff. I mean,
he's got an unbelievable, unbelievable track record in Ohio State,
and yet they all want them out. The fans won
them out. There's a big push to get him out.
The big alumni want him out because why the last
three years he couldn't beat Michigan and he had to
watch Michigan win the Big Ten, go to the playoff
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three years in a row and win the national championship.
Short of a Big Ten title, beating Michigan and winning
a game in the playoff, like Ryan Day's gonna be out,
Like they're gonna find a way to say, no, there's
another guy out there that we're gonna bring in that's
gonna get us those extra cup which is just insane
and it makes no sense. But that's how irrational things
(05:30):
are with Ohio State. They got used to twenty years
of excellence of beating Michigan and winning the Big Ten
and going on. I understand. But then Michigan started getting
the plays and things started changing. This is the new
world now. But the pressure for Ryan Day because this
is a down year for Michigan right now, that's the
big thing. It's not just that Ohio State could be
loaded with another Ohio State type team again, it's just
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Michigan starting over. It's a new head coach, it's a
new quarterback. There's lots of new players and positions. Yes,
Michigan still had three players on the first team All American,
let's including their tight end. But still you're starting over.
It's new at coach, new quarterback, new lots of things.
You still don't know what the penalties are gonna be
for Michigan if you don't do it this year. I
read Ryan Day is not gonna make it to coach
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twenty twenty five with Ohio State, beat Michigan, win the
Big Ten, and win a playoff game, right because with
twelve teams this year, it's gonna be bigger and that's
gonna be awesome. Not saying you gotta get all the way,
but you know, instead of making the playoff, which would
have been the big goals. Now get there, win a
playoff game, maybe not win a national championship, but give
us something to be excited about when we get to
the end of the season and win a playoff game,
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and show us that, Okay, we can win a Big ten,
we can beat Michigan, and we can go forward. If
any of those things don't happen, that's it for him.
If he loses to Michigan, forget it. He's got the
longest losing street to Michigan. I don't even know if
what hey Hayes lost this many games to Michigan in
a row, you got that, you got no Big ten.
That's gonna be it, and it's gonna be Ryan Day's
(06:57):
gonna go I'm eighty five and five and they want me. Yeah,
And he'll get a big job somewhere else because he's
a great head coach.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You don't win games like this by accident. But this
shows you how crazy and insane the pressure is that
if he doesn't do those things, he's gonna be out
in Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Fifty six and eight is what I see on the
official Ohio State website, and it has it broken down
thusly at home thirty one and two, Away and neutral
twenty five and six. Okay, Now this is where it
gets interesting and where maybe you like some of these
(07:35):
data points, maybe you don't. I'll start from the good
and work my way backward. Versus the Big ten thirty
nine and three, okay, a couple of Big ten championships
you know you're getting after it, versus the top twenty five,
eighteen and eight, versus the Top ten eight and seven
versus the top five, two and six. So it comes
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back to a question when Harball was under fire before
everybody decided to love him, and now we have you know,
Connor stallions and all these things and the relentless enthusiasm
of the last couple of years. But remember when everybody's
trying to run him out of town, and it's like, hey,
you got to look in the mirror and realize where
you're at, what you're doing, and who you've been. And
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for Ohio State to a you know, got to make
that similar look in the mirror and kind of decide
where you're at and where you're headed. Especially, and it
changed Big ten because if Michigan's down this year, how
far down are they really? And you talk about sanctions.
We don't know what's going to come out of the
counter Stallion's thing at this point. You know, they did
(08:44):
the show cause for harrorball over cheeseburgers, recruiting and everything
off COVID, which again is still insane that we're litigating
that four years later. But welcome to the NCAA. But
for the arrival of Oregon and Washington and some of
these other squad you're you're not getting to run through
the big ten like you did, right, it's bigger whatever
(09:07):
USC and UCLA become in this new iteration of the conference,
like it's a whole.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Dude, when you're not gonna dodge any of those teams
because it's right, USC and UCLA and they want to play, Hey,
we want to play Ohio. We want to play Ohio
State there and back at our place every year. This
helps recruiting for us, Like this is gonna be where hey,
Ohio State gets looking at they dodge USC in Washington
and Mission. No, No, it doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
They go, They're gonna play all these teams every year,
you're gonna get most of them, right, So I mean
you look at their schedule, this year. Yeah, you've got
Akron and Western Michigan and Marshall out of the gate.
That's fine. Then you're on the road at Michigan State
IOWA top twenty five team. They're they're a little bit
of a sleeper kind of like we're saying, if you
can get the offense right and in Pittsburgh that the
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Steelers could be dangerous. Funny, the color schemes are the same. WHOA.
Then you're on the road. You've got the game against Oregon,
middle of October, home game against Nebraska no slouches this year,
on the road at Penn State, then the Boiler Makers
at home, then on the road in the makeshift world.
Uh that that is Northwestern i e. Or at Wrigleyfield. Uh,
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and then Indiana before the date with Michigan. I mean,
that is not an easy schedule to navigate.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And it's gonna be I mean, just to and if
if they lose a game before Michigan, like it's gonna
go south so fast. Like I really I don't know
how to know how Ryan Day enjoys being a head coach,
Like every week you're supposed to win, and when you do,
and what does he get an hour after the game
to enjoy himself before Okay, you better win this week
or that. Not like it wasn't like that for harbaught Michigan,
(10:45):
it wasn't like that for Saban, But for him it's
I really don't know, like when winning is a relief
and it's and it's it's not fun, Like, I don't
know how you can enjoy it. I don't know how
we can enjoy it because he knows if he wins,
he's supposed to win, and if he loses, well, I
guess what you're gonna But that's.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
What we just talked about with the Olympic squads, right,
I mean both the men's and women's sides in basketball,
and then when they won, it wasn't stylistic enough, it
wasn't sexy enough. You didn't cover, you didn't back your
backers who bet on the Red, white, and blue plus
minus sixteen and a half and all of those things.
(11:22):
So yeah, it's you're you're in a tough spot. And
it just got that much more complicated with the changing
of the conference. Exciting and highly entertaining for us and
big noon kickoff and everything else associated with that. But yeah,
for Ryan Day, every he doesn't have the natural enemy
of Harbaugh anymore. She can at least say, all right,
(11:44):
I'm fighting that guy. Yeah, how it becomes just the
monolith of the school and everything else.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I mean, it's it's just an insane amount of pressure
that he shouldn't have to have because the guy's a
great color and there's nobody out there that's gonna say, oh, yeah,
I'm the guy to get you those extra that extra
win every No. Really, really, you think there's a guy
that that's gonna do everything he did, end is gonna
do that little bit. But who's that guy? Who's that guy?
There's nobody out there that's gonna come take that job.
There's nobody. Are there great head coaches one hundred percent?
(12:13):
Are there phenomenal head coaches one hundred percent? Who's available
that's gonna come take that job? No, there's nobody. There's nobody.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Man, Well, we were just talking about Gundhy potentially leading
bunch of your best coaches. They're looking around going this sucks.
I don't want to do this.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Hey here, look, here's all. Here's all the proof you need.
You know, My wife Michigan alum right, everything else? How
big it is, she says to me today. She says,
I just got this, uh this text. Can I read
it to you? And I said sure, And she goes,
at the end of your life, no one's gonna remember
where you worked or how many hours you spent at
the office. I'm going, oh, it's one of those you know,
spend time with your family there. I'm like, well, we
spent time every day we're together. But she goes, but
(12:51):
I look at it. She goes, just keep going. I said, Okay,
she goes. At the end of your life, no one's
gonna remember how many how many hours you spent at
the office, what your job title was, what kind of
car you drove. But everybody's going to remember that. It's
been seventeen and twenty four days since Ohio State's beaten Michigan.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I've seen one with red Panda from the halftime shows
an image of her. Yeah, I've seen the uh the
famous first pitch that we talked about a little bit
of your mets that everybody point. Folks just need hugs.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
They don't like the hawk to they don't like hawk
to e.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
But like, does anybody really pay attention to the first
pitch in the stadium?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Apparently apparently they do. But that's but that's you know,
but that's typical Mets, Like, yes, the Yankees have all
the pay we have Grimerson Hawk toa that's kind of
our identity. I'm okay, so we are.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's for the lean into the viral sensations that they are.
But you know, for folks that got really mad about
that and started the soapbox about that, I'll come to
your station and I'll give you the hug you need.
I'll bring you some ice cream. We'll chat it out
and you can you can let me know who hurts
you in your sporting world.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Good lord throwing out the first pitch for the Yankees tonight,
All the surviving presidents, starting with Bill Clinton, George Bush,
Barack Obama, Donald Trump throwing out the first pitch for
the Mets, the Hawk to a girl like that's okay,
and I'm okay with right, I'm okay with it, Like
that's how it goes, right, That's that's that's how it
is who you are, right, we get we get talk
(14:19):
to now.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So you got that. But like on both sides, you
mentioned seven and twenty four days they been counting. Is
that you've had the runs of from past coaches right
where they've had good success or at least been you know,
five hundred plus in those rivalry rivalry games, and then
you hit bad streaks, like watching you know, a Major
League Base Paul All Star Game. Yeah the American League
(14:43):
won again. Hey, but this time it doesn't count. But
these take out it doesn't count. These these all take
on a life of their own right. We build up
to it with each subsequent win. I mean, how much
how much product do you think Ryan Day uses in
a year to keep the hair and beard just jet black,
(15:06):
all of it, all of it a bottle James did
during the Olympics. He was either going to be my
excuses I'm old and they relied too much on me,
or look how old I am.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It'd be a president's photo when they took office, when
they leave office, Ryan Day, look at him.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
That's kind of where we're at with Ryan Day. I
wish him good luck, uh in a wonderful season because
you know we'll all be watching and me, being the
big ten apologist that I am, I need them challenging
with Oregon down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Exit out about a Fresca exit, swalling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon live from
the Tirec dot Com Studios. Coming up next, we get
back into the most bizarre and crazy NFL story the day,
involving a quarterback calling his former head coach a terrible person.
That's next, right, and it's not Aaron Rodgers before, it's
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon Yo live from the tyrack dot Com studios,
and I'll tell you I did not have two a
tunnel I looa lighting up blan Brian Laurus on my
bingo card. Of things we're going to talk about coming
off of Week two in the NFL preseason.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
No, not at all. I mean a lot of things
and quarterback debates, coaching hot seats, maybe some talk of
teams you're either sold on or that you're selling all
your futures in all of those things, which games you're
not gonna watch in order to just take a walk
around the park or a nap. But no to a
(17:26):
tongue of Iloa piping up about his former coach you
know of long ago now not on the Bingo KRT.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
This was a bit of a shock today to a
tongue of I looa goes on Dan Levittard's podcast and
talks about former head coach Brian Flores. Remember Flores was
the head coach before he got let go and Mike
McDaniel came in and with his short pants and big
feet really has turned the Dolphins around. Turned to a
tongue of Ailoa's fortunes around and two. Has become a
(17:55):
terrific quarterback, a top ten quarterback in the game, just
got a huge two hundred thirty million dollar contract extension.
Mike McDaniel's done some things. Brian Flores now the defensive
coordinator with the Minnesota Vikings. Who remember flores first couple
of years in the league when he was the head
coach of the Dolphins. There seemed to be a bit
of a push pull ay. As much as the Dolphins
(18:17):
want Tua to be a star, doesn't seem like everybody's
on the same page, are they. They all believe in
Tua being great. There were rumors they were going to
trade him. Maybe we'll trade them for Jalen Hurts. All
these things were going out there. It was kind of
crazy that boy certainly feels like they picked a guy
in the first round and there's factions in the organization
that want to keep them in, factions that don't want him. Well,
(18:39):
Flores gets let go, and then Flores has a very
high profile case against the NFL that he was let
go and the team wanted him to tank, and he
was told the tank so they could get a high
draft pick and it was a really big deal for
about a year. Well now it's been a little while,
and Tua decides to say, you know what, Now I'm comfortable.
Now I'll talk about what it was like playing for
Brian Flores's couple of years ago Here he was and
(19:02):
Dan Levitard's podcast comparing what it was like to playing
under Brian Flores calling him a horrible person. Take a
listen to put it.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
In simplest terms, if you woke up every morning and
I told you you suck at what you did, that
you don't belong doing what you do, that you shouldn't
be here, that this guy should be here, that you
haven't earned this right, And then you have somebody else
(19:32):
come in and tell you, dude, you are the best
fit for this, Like you are accurate, you are the
best whatever you are, this you are that, Like how
would it make you feel listening to one or the other?
You see what I'm saying, and then you hear it.
You hear it regardless of what it is, the good
or the bad, and you hear it more and more.
(19:53):
You start to actually believe that, I don't care who
you are. You could be the president of the United States.
You have a terrible person that's telling you things that
you don't want to hear or that you probably shouldn't
be hearing. You're gonna start to believe that about yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So there he was. He would tell him how much
he sucked every day and said he was a terrible person. Now,
this is this is not something you normally get, even
Baker Mayfield talking about Hugh Jackson. Wasn't this bad when
he was saying what it was like playing for a
former head coach. But this is what you get. And
this is Toua finally feeling comfortable in saying what he
(20:32):
said now to give you something a little different than
what you've heard all day about this story. Right, no
matter who you believe, because the Vikings, I'm sure are
gonna have something to say, and there's gonna be some
kind of comment from Brian Flores, their defensive coordinator already.
Kevin O'Connell said tonight, Hey, uh, he's got great relationships
(20:53):
with everybody on our team. Don't worry. We love Brian Flores. Like, oh,
here comes damage control.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
What the hell else is he gonna say?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, everybody is him here too?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They tell you the man, But I think they're frothing
at the mouth, and in week one, all the hate
and vitriol in those film rooms is gonna show up
on the field and we'll be off to a great start. No,
he's not gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Hey, hey, Kevin, Yeah, I got good news and badness
for you. Okay, what everybody's gonna stop asking you about
JJ McCarthy and Sam Darnold. Great, what's the bad news? Well,
here's what they're gonna ask.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
You talk about a guy you hired for your coaching staff.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Wait now I want to go back to McCarthy and Donald.
Let's go back. No, but look, but this is the
big thing. This is the different A little bit different
here is that? Look? Is tu one hundred percent? Do
you believe Tua?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Because I knew there was It was a bad relationship
when it was going on, It wasn't great. But no
matter what level you believe of Tua, Brian Flores is
gonna have a different version. I'm sure of things going on.
No matter what you believe, the bottom line is this
failure and what happened with Tua is on Brian Flores.
It is one hundred percent on him. Why because a
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coach's role is to get the player that you are
coaching to be the best version of themselves. That's the
one thing that's how you wind up winning. You want
your quarterback to be in the right frame of mine
to succeed. You want to put him in a position
to succeed, not in a position to be questioning what
he does all the time. And that's a big fail
by Brian Flores because he did not do that with
(22:27):
tu a tongue of iiloo. Whether he really believed he's stunk,
it doesn't matter, because this is the guy we picked
in the first round. Try to make it work. Are
you trying to not make it work? And try to
make it work with this guy. That's why we got him.
Try to make it work. That's your job as a
head coach, win games. Try to make it work. Now,
whether he didn't want to do it, he didn't like him,
didn't think he was any good, that's bad enough. But
(22:48):
if he did it because hey, this is my way
to coach. For me, honestly, that's even worse because not
everybody can you coach the same And maybe Brian Flores
is an old school guy, where hey, I can coach
through negative reinforcement, and I can tell you that you
stink because that's the way I was coached. That's the
way I came up, and I get that now is
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the way that motivated me to get better. Yeah, this
is twenty twenty four generation Z. They don't respond like that.
They don't respond to that kind of negative, negative energy.
I know, just coaching youth sports for the last ten years,
what kind of energy generations the kids respond to. They
don't respond to negative, They don't respond to being told
you stink? Right, I mean it's different. Every generation is different,
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and it's up to the coach to be able to say,
how do I reach this one player. This doesn't mean
every player won't believe what won't respond to negative? Hey
you stink tonight? Well you tell me I stink, I'm
gonna go kick ass. Right. But everybody is different, especially
your quarterback, and you have to understand, okay, am I
doing the right thing by him? Because you could see
the tour was struggling. So at some point that light
(23:48):
bulb's gotta go off and you have to go, oh, well,
how I'm doing it's not working. Let me try something different.
Let me try reinforcing things with him, being positive with him, saying,
let me try that and see if that works. You
know what, Look what happened, because it worked. All Mike
McDaniel has done, has come in, has propped to up,
tell him how great he is, put him in position
to win, gotten weapons around him, and look it to it.
He is thriving right now. He is the face of
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the Dolphins franchise. They love him down there as teammates
love him. As long as he can keep throwing deep
to Tyreek Hill, everybody's gonna love him. But this is
your job as a coach is to succeed with the
players you have. And this was a fail on Brian
Flores because clearly to had the talent because you could
see it here, right, You see it here with Mike McDaniel,
Like we used to always joke around with the Phillies.
(24:31):
Maybe it was Joe Girardi's fault because man, since they
got rid of Joe Girardey, look how good this team is.
I can say that. Yet it was there for Tua
all along. And this is on Brian Flop. This that
it didn't work out, This is on Brian Flores.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
But we always talk about it with coaching not only
the energy in a locker room, and not that everybody's
got to be best friends. And you know, wherever you work,
you're not best friends with everybody there, but you at
least all pushing in the same direction. And maybe it's
a common enemy. And maybe Flores to a degree could
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have become that guy, but it always seemed, you know,
that it was focused on the relationship with his quarterback, who,
as we acknowledge in sports, is the most important person
on any any sporting squad except maybe your goalie in
ice hockey or in the soccer world. Could we could
maybe throw that up a little bit if we want
(25:26):
to expand that out. Otherwise, you know, you've got to
figure out what's gonna make them best. How many failed relationships,
failed regimes have been because they couldn't figure out what
quarterback best fit what they were trying to do, or
you know, the real new approach of hey, we really
like this guy for a million reasons, How do we
(25:48):
change what we have to fit what they do best,
which is something nobody does or very few teams have adopted. Right,
maybe it's becoming in vogue, but it's also recognizing the player. Right,
how much of Caleb Williams. Discussion was about Caleb Williams
the player, not a ton, not a ton. Maybe a
little bit about you know that secondary tertiary read and
(26:12):
getting through those progressions. But other than that, he's a
hell of an athlete. Everything was about his temperament, whether
he would get along, whether he was a deva or not.
I know, some folks had a field day with him saying, hey,
let's take care of the locker room like that was
out of line for a leader of a team and
a rookie to say, I'm looking at you, Amani Tumor.
Most prevalently you got a lot of run and folks
(26:34):
realized you were in the media in that moment, so
that was good. But it was just the idea that,
you know, you got a guy taking charge and from
all reports and from anything, that was the one thing
I think you could take out of Hard Knocks other
than that they have an ice cream museum now in Chicago,
is that his teammates love him. So you've got that
going for Tua. He's at a place, he got his
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bag and evidently is comfortable enough saying it. You know,
you want a chance let into your performance and and
go have the big year and then come back over
the top probably would have been the better approach, because
you know, he's gonna get skewered by the usual suspects
for this outlet earlier today. But if it puts him
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at peace that he set his piece and and the
balls now in Florida's court to respond or we'll see
what other players have to say about it, so be it.
I mean, obviously Miami is a team we're looking forward
to with a lot of talent and our new favorite guy,
Ricky Moster. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean you got all
(27:35):
that going on that you know, it's it's all set
up for them to at least be contenders in the
AFC East and and maybe make a push deep into
the playoffs. But if this unburdens him by having that
little cathartic moment with LeBatard, all the better for him.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Just know that, you know, all the folks of you suck.
It's not coming from inside the film room. Just don't
don't go to social media because I'm sure you have
plenty of fans and pundits doing the usual you're soft,
why are you doing this, and the usual rhetoric that
flows out of something.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Like this exit out a bout of Fresco Swollen Dome.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen Love from the
Tyraq dot com studios coming up next, a guy who
also would tell us we suck every single night. It
was really hard with negative influence, and still he is
here working at Steve Desager with what's trending in the
world of sport.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You suck?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
You check ass.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I didn't know where you were going with that, and
now I really don't like where you're going with that.
Everything is final in Major League Baseball. The Dodgers shut
out Seattle three nothing. Mariners offense, showing their colors again
two for twenty eight at the plate, twelve strikeouts, the
loss to Brian wu who had been five and one.
Gavin Stone eleven and five gets the win for the Dodgers.
(28:53):
He struck out ten in seven innings, and Max Munsey,
back at third base tonight off the injured list, homered.
The Mariners are now five games behind Houston for first
in the Al West. Houston, on a solo homer bottom
of the ninth, beat Boston five to four. San Diego
was a winner over Minnesota five to three. The Padre
is still three games back at the first place Dodgers
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in the NL West. Arizona is still four back. The
Diamondbacks won at Miami nine to six. Attendance in Miami
seven thousand, three eighteen, and then there's Oakland attendance three
thousand and nine thirty eight. Tonight, the A's shut out
Tampa Bay three nothing. Rais offense went two for thirty
with eleven strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Aren't the A's still like, like since May one the
best team in baseball? No?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
No, I like that, No.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Not even different. Their record is like the record is
like really good. He's one of the top five records
in baseball. It's better than you think.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
That's as far as I'll go.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Thank you better than you think. That should be the
motto for the A's the last two months. Come see
the A's better than you think.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Yeah, exactly. We'll put up that all over Sacramento next year. Actually,
San Francisco had a home game as well tonight. Giants
are over the five hundred mark sixty four and sixty
three after beating the White Sox five to three. The
White Sox record now thirty and ninety six this year.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Let's see how old Grady Sizemore is by October.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Yes, is it possible for the interim skipper not to
make it to the end of the season. Kidsas City
won its fifth straight game, five to three over the Angels.
Seth Lugo fourteen and seven got the win. The Mets
on a solo homer bottom of the ninth edged Baltimore
four to three. The Orioles were tied with the Idle
Yankees for first in the Al East. Yankees will host
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Slump in Cleveland starting tomorrow. Cincinnati with a win as
well six ' three at Toronto Braves Third Basement, Austin
Riley will miss six to eight weeks with a broken hand.
He was hit by a pitch yesterday. The regular season
ends in six weeks. Already out for the year for
Atlanta Our stars Ronald Acunya and pitchers Spencer Streyder. Atlanta
All Star pitcher Ronaldo Lopez, though we'll return from rehab
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assignment to start tomorrow against first place Phillies. Cleveland pitcher
Alex Cobb goes on the injured list with a broken nail.
Raised closer Pete Fairbanks on the il with a lat strain.
Pirates third baseman, keep Brian Hayes on the IL with
lower back inflammation, and Diamondbacks All Stars second baseman could
tell Marquee marte Is on the IL with a sprained ankle.
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Tyler Reddick won NASCAR's Cup race reign delayed at Michigan.
The Washington Commanders officially named rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels their starter,
and Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert resume practicing today for the
first time this month. He had been in a walking
boot with foot injury. Quarterback Colt McCoy retired back to you.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right, now I have it here, Steve, No fair
looking you either, Harmon?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
What? Okay?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Where do the A's rank in Major League Baseball record
since July first?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Since July?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Since July, the Diamondbacks have the best record.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
No surprise, Andreser great as well.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Andres Er second. Diamondbacks number one, Padres number two. They're right,
They're pretty much even with each other. Where are the.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
A's uh eleventh?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Army fifteenth? The A's have the fourth best record, kid Wall.
Since July first, they are twenty four and fifteenth. They
have a better record than the Mets and Grimace although
Grimace started in June. But since July first, the A's
have the fourth best record in baseball. And you know, the.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
A's at home are up to a five hundred record
after this win. So for all of those three nine
hundred fans that are fatally going there every night, you
are almost seeing a winning team in your home ballpark.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Look at you are almost seeing what we do though.
Right it's the rolling statistics.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Oaklan A's baseball better than you think.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That's a T shirt right there, and then it's a
picture of like a smart baseball like pointing at his head,
like like looking at you and pointing at his head.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
I was talking on last night's show with Mark Willard,
who of course is from the Bay Area, and I
mentioned last night was the Little League Classic and the
Yankees were playing in it in Williams Fort, and I
had to say out loud, no, Aaron Judge is not
playing at a little league stadium, and Willard said he
will be next year.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Sanch An, Well, yeah, because remember the owner of the
A's promised it. How great is it gonna be that
players like Aaron Judge come visit?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Yeah, don't buy tickets to see the A's of course.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
It's the old Clippers way of doing business.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Hey, hey, Cashman, I already said, Judge, so you got
to playhim in every game here next year. Okay, no
sitting him out. People are gonna come. Don't sit about,
Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon
Live from the tyrack dot Com Studios. Coming up next,
a return to practice for one quarterback and not a
moment too soon for his team. That's next right here,
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Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (33:57):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with ma My
best Friend Mike Harmon Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios.
At this point in the preseason, if you're missing a
star player, you are hoping they return, and they return
soon because your team needs them. Nobody more so than
the Chargers who today got Justin Herbert back at practice
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after a couple of weeks in a walking boot, and
not a moment too soon, because they looked absolutely abysmal
without him, whether it was Easton Stick or Max Duggan
who got waived today, they could not do anything offensively.
This is already a team bereft of playmakers, and maybe
by virtue of just because he was drafted in the
first round, Lad McConkie is the best playmaker they have.
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You have your injured, you have injured running backs that
Jim Harborough is gonna try to make it work with,
and outside of McConkie, just a bunch of receivers you're
throwing in there. They needed Justin Herbert back so bad.
And finally, I feel like Jim Harbaugh is on the
Justin Herbert train, because here he was today talking about
what it was like to get Justin Herbert back. I
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felt like the music should be playing.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I haven't thought I felt.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I thought I heard music, voices.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Of angels, maybe great.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Voices of angels. Oh, look, Justin Herbert's back on the field.
You know, look, I told you watch to see that
Justin Herbert gets traded in the offseason, right like it's been.
It seems like he's been at arms length with Harball
coming in this season. But now look at where they're at,
and they just had a big dose reality of what
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life without Justin Herbert looks like. And suddenly I think maybe, hey,
we're coming around to the fact that maybe Herbert's maybe
Herbert's gonna be around. We got to build a bit
more around him. And we can't just decide we want
to run the football with two guys that can't stay
on the field. So, you know, for in a weird
way for the Chargers, like having Justin Herbert out for
a couple of weeks maybe shocked them back into reality that, hey,
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coach may be coming in here with a new system,
in a new way of doing things and energy, and that's great, right,
we need something new, But hey, we got to make
sure that our best player is the guy driving the
bus on this And let's make no mistake, our best
player is Justin Herbert. And maybe I'm finally opening, Maybe
Harbaugh realizes that that I can't just sledgehammer running attack
in and throw it. I feel like it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
This is not Michigan. Yeah, I think with Justin Herbert,
we'd seen in a while ago, Jason where you know,
just described him. That's a football player right in the
most complimentary way other than the sound of angels, that
you'd ever really heard Jim Harbaugh talk about a player, right.
That was always his vote of confidence that guy over
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there that's a football player. Okay, cool, it's pretty basic, pretty,
you know, nondescript, but he gets the seal of approval
from Jim Harbaugh as to what kind of guy he
is in the system that you want to build. So
I always thought there was at least that modicum of
respect and appreciation for what he was. But certainly the
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first two preseason games triple underscored anything that he thought
about him in terms of his ability not just as
a football player, but as an elite football player compared
to what they have if they want to make this
thing run. And I'm excited. We talked with Jason locking
for earlier in the show, and I'd like to see JK.
(37:20):
Dobbins have himself a career because he's just been beset
by one injury after the next. We've all had appreciation moments,
either watching games or in our fantasy lineups for what
Gus Edwards can be when healthy and move in the line,
and really both guys have a lot of what the
(37:41):
old Harball football player thing is. But for Herbert, I
think it'll be a little more balanced. At least that's
been my assertion more so than I think what you
envisioned this to become. So I think they'll be able
to work in harmony. He won't run the ball thirty
two straight times, It'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I mean they looked so dismal, Mike, I mean really,
I told you without without him, they'd be smack deb
in that are they picking first overall in April? Like
that's how bad? Like there is nobody you can see
more valuable to his team because we can see what
they look like without him, right Like, you know, we
saw we saw Chad Henny win a game, you know,
(38:22):
for the Chiefs in the playoffs when Patrick Mahomes got hurt.
Not saying that suddenly the Chiefs wouldn't be stuck, but man,
you see they go from hey we are a potential
playoff fringe playoff team. Right was where I'll put the
Chargers without Justin Herbert? It's did they win two games?
I mean, really, that's how bad. That's the lack of
talent on this team because they are starting over. Like,
(38:45):
how many games do you really think they win without
Justin Herbert? I mean maybe two?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I mean that's what I mean, Like, maybe they win
two games without him.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Oh that's that's a big, tall task. We'll have to
simulate that one out on our little electric football game again.
If the defense stays healthy, that'll keep them in games.
Can they score enough? I gotta say though, that game,
the Battle for l A and that Pittsburgh Buffalo games
two of the most painful things I've ever sat through.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
And yeah, dude, there's not been a lot of great
preseason football. Along with you on that, I'm with.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, he gets every enjoy every one of those Caleb
william highlights because other games you ain't getting much. But hey,
Tyler Bass hit another field goal. Well, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
And the other thing is that, you know, just to
widen this out of it, is that gone are the
seemingly gone other days where when backups play against each
other and guys come in and light up the scoreboard,
right because you used to see that, Hey, here's a
guy trying to be the third string quarterback. He threw
for four touchdowns to get No, that's not the case now.
It's when the backups come in and play it's a
defensive slog and is running the ball and you just
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don't see that anymore. And that's like a last five
year phenomenon. Where boy, when these backups play like, it
just stinks, Like I can't even get bad football that's entertaining.
It's just bad football.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, it's it's not aesthetically pleasing.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Have another drink, exit out about a Fresco exit swollen,
don't worrol'. Just go out for a big mac.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
You know my normal again, That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
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tackle the biggest question of the NFL preseason. Will not
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