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August 24, 2024 • 39 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon talk about HOF level head coaches and who should be in the new batch. Plus, the guys talk about Deion Sanders and the Buffs banning Sean Keeler at their press conferences and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hello, welcome in side hour two. Not an incredibly great
hour two, not just hey, we're having fun. It's hour
two in the show. It's not glorious yet, No, it's not.
I don't think it's gonna be glorious tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
We just saw put return for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
We did, we did, But the Mets are the Mets
are getting no hit in the fifth inning and they're
losing six nothing. The Padres have twelve hits tonight.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Well, now that you've put it on air, though, I mean,
you've now jinked the Padres.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Isn't that?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh I just jakes the hag Divensi's got a double.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hey see you're spoken into existence.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh there we go. You have to do is break
the seal. Let's go starling Marte. Uh with a double
to right field. All right, at least we're not getting
no hit. But hey, I'll tell you Joe Musgrove's spin
rate must be amazing tonight. That's a that's an obscure
call back to the playoffs of a year, a couple
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a quick update from the NFL. We talked about it
a few minutes ago. Brock Purty throws a pass that
is tipped. He is picked off. Purdy runs to the

(01:46):
sideline to make the tackle. He throws his shoulder in
to tackle the players. He goes out of bounds. Raiders
take over. They go and get a touchdown. It's now
ten to seven. We have not seen Rock Purty. He
is now out of the game, and apparently he is okay.
I haven't seen anything injury wise. Maybe Kyle Shanahan realizing,

(02:07):
oh hey, wait a minute, maybe time to get him
out after he goes in and ridiculously tries to make
a tackle for a guy I get you through a pick.
I understand it's a preseason. Let him go for a touchdown.
It doesn't matter, it doesn't don't get hurt going over there.
You shouldn't be playing anyway. It was stupid of Shanahan
to play him last week. It's almost as stupid to
play him this week, but not quite. At least the

(02:28):
starters were playing when he was in the game. But
the plan was to have Purdy play the first half.
Apparently after that pick six in the tackle that you
know you're holding your breath through brock Purry a little bit,
the Niners decide to make a change. A quarterback, Brandon
Allen comes in. He is now playing quarterback for the
forty nine ers. As this game continues. In the second quarter,

(02:50):
you had to stop the fight.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I mean, there was nothing good to be gained, you
xale and just say, all right, that was stupid. Let's
not do that again. Oh wait, that's the end of
the preseason. We don't have to we don't have to
make that decision. That's the best way to make a decision,
you know, Like the last run of the day, the
last uh, there was gonna be the last one.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Last time he was hitting the slopes and.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Then he had the accident and twisted an ankle or something.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Same thing here.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's like, you know what, we had decided that this
was gonna be a bad idea, that was gonna be
his last series. Sometimes life figures that out for you.
That's his last series.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
That's it. Come back, you're done. What do you mean
We're done? Yeah? No, no, you're done. You're absolutely done.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
We hit the whammie. We're not pressing our luck anymore.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
One other quick update from this game, because this is
kind of what I thought the new kickoff rule. If
you're looking for a silver lining for the kickoff, right
with the new kickoffer we talked about this, it did
just look stupid. Right. You can only do so much
to try to save the kickoff. Okay, if we don't
need to have a kickoff, we don't need to have

(03:59):
a kickoff. But I did throw it open that Hey.
Maybe with the new kickoff rules, kickoffs are gonna look
kind of like what it looks like after an interception.
You know, someone picks the ball off and it's kind
of a broken play and people are all over the
field and jab, yeah, maybe we wind up getting something
that looks like, hey, here's a play where you know
you can follow a couple of blocks and make a

(04:20):
big play. And Isaac Grendo, who receives the kickoff for
the forty nine ers, there's a little bit of a
scrum like right around the twenty yard line, but he's
able to dart outside and get away from all the coverage.
And that's the thing, is that everybody's starting so close.
Once you get past that coverage, it's you are running
free because there's nobody back. There's no one. Hey, everybody

(04:43):
is looking. There's no one that's able to really take
an angle on you because they're already so close. So
all the gap responsibilities that that players have on a
kickoff kind of go out the window. And he just
runs a kickoff all the way back to the five
yard line. He gets tackled because it's, like I said,
it's a broken field play. It looks like an interception

(05:03):
deep in his team's territory, and he winds up getting
tackled the five yard line. San Francisco goes in for
a touchdown. But if you're looking for the save the kickoff.
That's the kind of play where I can say, all right,
if that happens a few times, that will save the
kickoff for at least this year. Hopefully that it's not
something that happens once every three or four weeks we
get one return like that, or once once a month

(05:25):
we get our turn life. If we can get that
somewhat regularly. Okay, I understand the kickoff rule, and I
understand that it can bring something good and maybe we
stick with it. But I mean, that's kind of what
I was waiting for a play like that, to see
it and go, Yeah, the broken field, the broken aspect
of it looking like an interception deep in the team's territory.
That's the way I can see a play and see

(05:46):
the kickoff kind of really get going and become a
big time player where you can bust one and run
it back all the way.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Let's just call it what it is.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
If it's gonna entice fans to get off their asses
and cheer, if it's gonna entice gamblers to maybe hit
the over you know a little harder on their wagers, Yeah,
everybody wins in that regard.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I do want for the landing zone.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Like when we do these graphic overlays to show you
where it is right the acceptable kick area that we
start putting in like some lava or something. We go
full on Nickelodeon's Slime Slime Game to where now the
guy's running through quicksand or something, to give it a
little extra spice as well, because otherwise it's just like
a little red zone or whatever color each of the

(06:30):
networks is gonna do. Now I need more than that.
Let's let's commit to the bit. If we're gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen do on The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the tyreck
dot Com studios. So we'll keep you posted on this game.
Nathan Peterman is in for the Raiders. Peederman is in.
Look at this, he's still in. He's taking to be
playing off fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Wherever you are out there, whatever you do for a living,
you keep plugging away.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
It'll be the last plugging away. It'll be the last
Bobby Benia DAYA. Nathan Peterman's gonna be starting a quarterback
with somebody in the preseason. It's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
You get their quarterly reports wrong. You forgot to merge
those cells properly on the spreadsheet. Doesn't matter. You're gonna
find another company that's gonna let you do those merges again,
just like Beaderman.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
So again, more from this game coming up. Seventeen to
seven lead for the forty nine ers, eight and a
half to go in the first half. Maybe, just maybe,
Bill Belichick Pete Carroll won't have to wait much longer
to be enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Big story today that the Hall of Fame waving the

(07:40):
length of time it takes for a coach to get
into the Hall of Fame. The waiting period for coaches
is now one year. It used to be five to
five for everybody. Five for players to get away from
their career before you understand how good they are where
they are to get to get the fairest assessment of
their career. Same thing for coaches was five years, but

(08:00):
now that's been reduced from five seasons to one. This
means Belichick could get his bronze bust and gold jacket
as soon as twenty twenty six. Now it's not gonna
happen next year because they're already voting on beyond people
for next year, so it's got to be a year
after this. But potentially, if this rule was in place,
you know a little what you taught, Hey, maybe next year,

(08:21):
so he may only have to wait one more year
before he gets into the Hall of Fame. Of course,
maybe Jerry Jones decides, my guys aren't working. Hey, Bill,
you want to come in and coach and want to
get those wins, want to get to Shula. Let's get
you there. Let's get you there. So with the retirement
or the lack of coaching of Belichick and Pete Carroll,

(08:43):
these are two guys that, Hey, potentially we could see
them getting into the Hall of Fame a little over
a year from now, right, we'd see him a little
bit less than two years.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
From now, we see him getting Hall of Famer. And
Professor Pete Carroll.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Now, I'm gonna say, let's see with Pete Carroll first,
because I got I got a hot take for you
for Belichick, is Pete Carroll hall of Famer? Short? What
Pete Cale's able to do? He's won a Super Bowl,
He's been to two Super Bowls, he won five division
titles with the Seahawks. It was kind of a mini dynasty. Yeah,
Pete Carroll, I mean, you can't put him in because
of what he did in college. It's the Pro Football
Hall of Fame. Whatever USC players were getting paid, it

(09:16):
doesn't matter. It's still the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
It's all fine now as long as you didn't do
something in recruiting.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Oh wait, no, that's not true either.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Going back to that Kirk Farren story we had yesterday
that made no sense, but yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
So I'll put Pete in. But at the same time,
you gotta put Tom Coughlin in. Tom Coughlin had basically
the same career that Pete Carroll did, right, won five
Division titles, won two Super Bowls two not one, not one,
and threw one away. He's not in. George Seaffert won
two Super Bowls, won five division titles. Right, Oh but
it was Bill Watters still won two Super Bowls. These

(09:54):
guys aren't in. But Pete Carroll is gonna wind up
getting a red carpet to the Hall of Fame, which
I get it. I get that Pete Carroll is well
liked and Pete full of energy and it was fun
see him on the sideline. I understand that, but man,
I know that Tom Coffin was a tough guy and
George Seaffert. You kind of wondered about him taking home
for Bill waltsh. But if you're gonna put Pete Carroll in,

(10:15):
you got to put both of these guys in. They
both deserve it just as much as he does. Now,
do you have to be done with coaching because he
isn't Coughland coaching with the Raiders?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Now, I know he's not the head guy, but doesn't that.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Preclude you, Like I'm still a little fuzzier because you
don't have to put in retirement papers as a coach.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, no, No, he's players.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
You have an official date where you said, you know
what I'm done. If nothing else, hey, this is the
last date of your game after a while. But you
still have to fill out something specifically to say, hey,
for benefits, purposes and everything else, I've retired.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
For coaches, I mean, they're still creeping up on sideline.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
That's why the Belichick thing has a giant asterisk on
it in the event that Jerry or somebody else does
hire him.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
But he's he's been considered the last couple of years.
Tom Coughlin, he's been one of the one of the
coaches in consideration for the Hall of Fame. So they're
they're they're they're debating his case and he could have
been a finalist in twenty twenty three years the way.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
He could have just saying like now that he's back
on a sideline, actually in a coaching you know outfit.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
You know, if you wear a coaching outfit, we're not
putting you in the Hall. But you're not a head coach,
but you're on a staff. Does that preclude you? That's
that's my question, like or do you have to be
the headman? And that's the only that's the only time
your your time expiration actually matters. So either way, it
doesn't really matter. The merits of it are that Coughlin

(11:38):
should be in.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I don't know if does he have an all decade
nod like Pete Carroll does.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, that's it. Well, it's tough, like dead coach. Yeah,
when you coach and your your your period of coaching
great is is actually neatly fits into a decade? I
think that helps. Hey, he was his team was really
good from twenty ten to twenty twenty he's on the
All decade team. What if someone's team is really good
from two thousand and five to twenty fifteen. Sorry, you can't
be on the all decade team like the old decade

(12:03):
team is just stupid. That's just a stupid thing to do.
All decade team. Yeah you So if my career begins
with a six after it or a seven, I can't
be all decade like all of sudden getting penalized because
you started in two thousand and seven. This guy started
in twenty ten. Nice round number, It works.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
It, that's it. It's not a rolling decade. Here's zero.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Here's your hot take. You ready, So here's Bill Belichick, right,
Hall of Famer. Everyon's gonna want to vote him in
super Bowl championships, division titles, right, He's got it all. Uh.
I wonder how Spygate is gonna play with Bill Belichick,
because honestly, I got a problem with it. I mean
I got a problem with a guy busting the biggest

(12:48):
cheating scandal that the NFL has seen that was covered up,
and you don't know exactly what that meant for his career,
but you know they were getting something big out of
it because Belichick wouldn't have had his team continue to
do that if they got no information, right for all belly, Oh,
you know we did it, but spygate really we got little. Really,
if you didn't get any benefit, you're not wasting the

(13:08):
time or energy doing it. So you know they got
big stuff from it, and you don't know what that
was for building the first part of the dynasty for
the Patriots. Now, they went on to keep winning without
with Spygate, but they lost more Super Bowls than they
won when that happened. They didn't quite win as much
as they did before spy Gate. So, yeah, I got
a problem with this. I can see. I can see

(13:29):
voters keeping them out. I can if I was voting,
I could have it, not just me being upset Jets fan,
but me saying, yeah, I mean we just gonna blow
past that. We're gonna blow past it. He was a
huge cheating scandal. Well, the Patriots were punished also, were
gonna just put the guy right in the Hall of
Fame who was the brainchild of all of this. No,
I can see voters saying I got a problem with it,
And if I was voting, I'd have a problem with it.

(13:49):
I can easily say that I had a pretty good
case on it. Now, Hey, the Jets are the ones
that stopped spygate. If Eric Manngini doesn't have the guts
to say, hey, they were taping and I know this
because we did it when I was there. Uh wait, no, no.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
No, that.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Guts or was he a rat?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Because you're complicit?

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Now you say, well, it could be used against me,
So I'm gonna rat them out.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I don't. I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, I think that was also stupid at Belichick to
do it against the Jets. I'm doing it against a
coach that knows we do it. That's just dumb. That's
just stupid. That's hubris. So yeah, I'd keep out of
the Hall of Fame just for that. Just don't do
it against the guy you're coaching against. Everything would have
been fine. They could have keep taking video of everybody.
They could have won five more Super Bowls. But no,
we're gonna do it for Mangini even though he knows

(14:34):
about it. Manginie goes is okay, I'm the coach of
the Jets. Now I can't let this go. And then
Spygate blows up well, I have a problem with that.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I had a problem with that, the letter versus spirit
of the law right in terms of what you can
and can't do, and restricted areas to be able to
do that, and where you couldn't by the letter of
the law. They did it, sure, and that's that's there.
And then we go down the line of you know,
other NFL teams. So like the flight gate nonsense that

(15:03):
Brady eventually served four games for just to make it
go away because it was one of the dumbest arguments
in recent memory. But with Spygate, I understand the saltiness.
It's okay, you can be mad about it. I'd like
to know under oath all the other teams. You know,
let's get your coaches, scouts and assistants in and let's

(15:24):
talk about how many Connor Stallions were there among you.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
We have. How great would that be if you found out,
like Connor Stallion's older brother was the guy running. So
that's what I like.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
There's six degrees of separation of guys videotaping and learning
the proper place to do it. It's like, you know,
a family business. You learn all the tricks of the
trade of how to be efficient and keep your your
cost structure in line and everything else in a changing environment,
same thing here. It's like, yeah, technology has changed, but

(15:57):
like this is still gonna be your best vantage point
to get the signals you need.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Whatever you need. We don't worry about it. Don't worry.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
This formula has been handed down for generations within the family.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Exit out by a Fresca exit swollen dome. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, Live from
the Tiraq dot Com studios. I mean, I got no
problem voting, No, I got no problem doing it. Yeah, Hey, Spygate,
let's talk about this really, Hall of Fame, let's talk
about this man a.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Hot here, it's been legislated, it's done.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
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are down four zip to the padres.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'm like, you know, I gotta say, flipping around the station.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
I was driving home, uh after a little bit of
a soccer or soccer work guy with kid and our
guy Rich Ornberger on the wait.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Let's wait wait now, wait no wait, now, let's get
it right. Your daughter worked out, you watched Let's get I.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Had to shag balls, so I let him running in.
Let's get its high grass too, so Mike's gotta work.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
It was high grass. I had to run through high knees.
I was Russell Wilson high knees. Baby. The grass, the
grass is too high. I can't see over the ground.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Well, what was funny is they cut the field, right,
so they trimmed along there and the other was still
probably a good, I don't know, six inches, So I
think I just decided he was done.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
For the day.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I'm standing behind the net and I'm like, it's too hot.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Where's you supposed to cut the whole ground? Yeah, but
it was so hot, I've done with it. But anyway,
I got rich Orberger.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
I mean he was doing a pregame tailgate thing for
the Mets and yeah, yeah, you know, he really had
some some booze stuff going on there.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah. Pat McFee did the tailgate today. You see that
I did. It's gonna be a fun time in irony. Boy.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Hey, you know what you lean into your surroundings. I
mean there used to be red wine Fridays around here
on Fox Sports, right, Yeah, yeah, you know, I guarante
those didn't end very well.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
No, No, they didn't. They didn't. I guarantee you this. Okay,
the Pat Max just just really quick because it was
so unbelievable today, I guarantee you there is a big
Without knowing anything, I don't I haven't talked to anybody,
but just knowing what it's like from working there, being
inside the building. I guarantee you. It is like Godzilla
versus King Kong there. But what do we do about this? Like,

(20:15):
what do we do? We're ESPN and here's what he's
just showing up on the show and doing. I guarantee
there's what do we do? We gotta do something. We
can't do anything. We gotta do something we can I
guarantee you that's gonna be the entire weekend.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's gonna be and we can't do anything. We paid
him a lot of money. We just re upped him
for college game day. Other than Steven A. Smith, he's
our number one guy. There's nothing happens here.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
There's a lot of people going, I'm just turning my
phone off for the weekend because I just want to.
I want to put my head through a wall.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Going hide thehoh hey, have fun with it.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Different ways to do radio. But yeah, the Mats are
down four and up and top of it.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, I know, I know. Down three nothing are the
Raiders the final game of the night in the NFL preseason.
And this is interesting because the forty nine ers are
playing a lot of starters tonight, including Brock Purdy, who
was still out there midway through the first quarter, just
had a big completion of George Kittle, had a big
completion of Deebo. Samuel did a nice little toe tap

(21:12):
and a Beckham like ketcha along the sideline early in
the first quarter. So I am just look. I told
you last I would never play Party and it was
stupid they played him last week. It's indefensible to play
him behind three backup offensive linemen. At least you're playing
most of the starters tonight. I still would never have
played brock Purty. I just don't think it's stupid. But
at least he looks like he's in the position to

(21:32):
succeed tonight because they have guys in front of him
that are gonna be in front of him week one
against the Jets.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
So at least there's that I do appreciate.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
The one of the passes he just completed was to Kittle,
but it was one of those you turn back and
throw to the left another two steps.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
He was getting.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Planted on his ass because there was a defender that
was bearing down on him, Like, yeah, I don't know
that that's the player that takes some extra time to
run in the preseason. Let's just play straight at a gap,
B gap, some quick outs and be done calling to night.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
No, well, we'll see how that goes Monday night against
the Jets. We'll see how that goes in a couple
of weeks on Monday Night. We'll see see if that
pass gets completed. We'll see if that happens. Now you're
being Jets, Go Jets, Jets Jet. Well, that's who they apply.
Can't change the schedule.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
That's the first game. No, no, I can add them on.
The audio played back your inflection. There was not professional broadcast.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Come on that. We were just talking about what happened
on on McAfee show tay professional broadcast. We look awesome, man,
are you kidding?

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Come on, dude, now, look crazy story out of college
football today, and of course it involves Colorado, and.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Of course it does. Wait which part are we doing?
Are we doing?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Are we doing the recruiting?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
No? No, no, we gotta do we you know we
gotta do. Come on, man, come on, dude. Colorado banned
a Denver Post columnist from asking questions of football coach
Deon Sanders and other members of the football program the school,
confirming this story today, Sean Keeler, according to Colorado puts
out a statement saying that after a series of sustained

(23:09):
personal attacks on the football program and specifically coach Prime.
So here it is in the official response they write
coach Prime, not Coach Sanders.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Not because he officially changed coach Prime.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
He's coach Prime. He's coach Prime. Now that Sean Keeler
is no longer allowed to ask questions at football related events,
he's permitted to attend as a credentialed member of the media.
Other members of the Denver Post can ask questions. However,
he cannot. This is a band that is indefinite. And

(23:40):
now before we get to the meat of this, you know,
there's sometimes there's certain things that I read. It's really
hard for me to to read stories like this is
why when I read at night in the books I like.
It's hard for me to read comedy books because I
like thrillers, and I like mysteries and and and and
and and literary. It's hard for me to read comedy
because sometimes I just don't get the comedy on the

(24:02):
page right. It just doesn't It just doesn't hit me
that way. That's just not the way my brain is wired.
Like comedy. I need to see it and talk it
and speak it and feel it. That's how I feel
about it. But there's sometimes when I read something and
I'm laughing so hard I have to stop. And that
was today when I was reading the story about Sean
Kieller getting banned because, according to the Denver Post, Colorado said, Look,

(24:24):
these are the references that we took issue with what
Keeler has said and what he's called Dion Sanders in
his columns, and they include calling the Colorado program a circus,
the Dion kool Aid Planet Prime, deposition Dion a false prophet,
the Bruce Lee of BS.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
And I just can'ts as Ben.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Maller now, I know, he's like when they were introducing
Apollo and Rocky, the King of Staying, the Count of
Monte Fisto, disaster nicknames patients. I mean, it's almost over,
like when I got to deposition Dion and the Bruce
Lee of BS. Like I'm laughing. I'm still laughing now,
and I've read this story like ten times today. I

(25:11):
just walk away going, can you imagine if you're the
Colorado guy and you have to call the Denver Post,
do you have the editor online? Whoever else you're talking
to with the publisher. Yes, these are the statements that
we disagree, calling him Deposition Dion, Planet Prime, we object
to that. We object to the Bruce Lee of BS.

(25:31):
We object to the Dion Cool. Like, if you're sitting
in the Denver Post, You're like, we're really in this meeting,
this is really happening. I just look and I don't know.
I think Bruce Lee of BS is my favorite, just
because it's so random, Like, wait a minute, Bruce Leeve Bs,
what was that column about that suddenly that way that
was out there? I mean, Deposition Dion's pretty good too,

(25:53):
Planet Prime. But when I just see them all and
I'm just picturing them reading the thing, here's what I
don't like, what you call me. Here's some of the
nicknames that I disagree with, and it's just so unbelievably entertaining.
I can't stop. Really, I can't even look at them. Now.
I have to do the rest of the story and
I can't look at the names anymore or I will
just start laughing.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
So I'm not looking at the names. I mean, is
he gonna have waffer thin skin?

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Now? I mean, like, how do we get just because
the fact that you're going out of the way to
band it.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Look, it's all you're right.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
You can say, hey, you're not treating the program with respect,
and now you're lampooning what we're doing here. I get it,
you're getting in your fields and what have you. But
I'd love to be on that call because you know
there's so many in the administration. Look what we did.
This is what we've been reduced to. We're having calls

(26:41):
with the Denver Post to say that one of their reporters.
Reporters cannot get a question in. You can attend, but
you can't ask the question because you decided to have
a little bit of fun in the column. God forbid
you have a little bit of fun, you know when
talking about sports? The guy and the guy in the

(27:01):
press release that needs to be sent out is addressed
as Coach Prime. Haven't we already entered the absurdity if
he doesn't want to be called by his surname, right,
I get it, he's got coach Prime. He's still doing
a ton of commercials. I hear his voice all the time,
howking different products, And that's all fine and good as
part of Ian and the Bravado is part of who

(27:23):
Dion's been forever with. That usually comes some level of
acknowledgment of there's going to be detractors and people that
are going to take their shots. And if any of
those names Bruce Lee a bs, if that's somehow offensive,
I think we've really hit a new age of again

(27:43):
waffer finn skin being the operative term here.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well you're ready for this, Yeah, go ahead for this.
I'll tell you this. I wonder if this is his
last year as a head coach in football. I wonder
if last year as a head coach in football? Right,
think about think about this. He obviously cannot take criticism.
That's the one like he can't take it. Like he
can't take it. He's one of those guys. Yeah, I

(28:08):
guarantee is always surrounded by people that tell him, yes,
anybody says anything, hey, you know, hey the offensive line,
No do either. Anybody you say anything that is reality
about Colorado, about coach back and he gets mad about it.
And now here he is, now here's someone who is
critical of me. I'm not gonna allow him to ask questions. Right,
I mean that's you said thin skin and that's a

(28:30):
really big deal. Right. But obviously he can't take criticism,
and he knows this doesn't help him. This doesn't He
knows that, hey, if I don't win this year in Colorado,
are they gonna fire me? Are they gonna say that
they're gonna want Because it's a circus, right, I mean,
it has been. It's been. It's been every day. It's
been all kinds of drama with players leaving and coming
and going and winning and losing. It it's been like

(28:52):
every day I feel like is like a week at Colorado.
He knows that this is not helping him, and he
knows that if he doesn't win in Colorade this year,
he may be out. He also knows that this doesn't
help his future because if this is who he is,
tell me a school that's gonna say, hey deon, come
coach us. Tell me an NFL team that's gonna say,

(29:12):
hey deon, come coach us, because we'll take whatever attitude
you have if you win. Remember, everybody, Dion was great
the first month of the season. Last going into the season,
in the first month, Dion was awesome. He was like
the pied piper. He had former NFL stars that wanted
to come coach at Colorado. Everybody wanted to be into.
It was the next big thing. And then what happened.
Then they started losing because they weren't good enough, and

(29:35):
they went in the tank. They didn't even make a
Bowl game. Deon started getting upset at press conferences all
the time because he can't take criticism. This is not
a great look. And Dion's in the position that he
knows that, hey, people have to hire him, They have
to want to hire him. And if he's looking at
his resume now, it could be two bad years at
Colorado and all kinds of controversy and stories about guns

(29:58):
and lawyers and money and bets and fights and who's
gonna want him. He's got to know this, right, He's
got to know in his heart of hearts. As much
bravado as he is, he's got to know that he
is hurting whatever he wants to do after this, which
makes me wonder if he knows, hey, if we don't win,
this is it and I'm done well.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
And theorized long ago that he was gonna be done
regardless of being done, but being sure.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Right, but being done and continuing to coach is one thing.
Being done and not coaching again. Now that's where we're
at because that that because I don't know anybody that
would hire him if he has a bad year this
year with everything else going on with who's gonna say, yeah, Dion,
we want you a small one. You know, FCS school
is gonna do it. He's gonna want to go back.
He's got too much ego for that. He's not gonna

(30:42):
do that. I wonder if this is his last year
because it really fits with the type of coach he is,
because he seems like a youth coach that wants to
stay with his kids as long as he can, and
then I'll stop coaching when I can't anymore, when they
get to a level that they need somebody else coaching them.
I'll coach them through Pop Warner, I'll coach them through
high school, but then they gotta go to college, or

(31:04):
I'll try to get a job in college. It's like,
that's kind of what he strikes me as I'm gonna
coach my kid more kids as long as I can.
Then when they're done and I can't coach him anymore,
then I'm done coaching, right, Like, that's what a lot
of youth, kid, That's what a lot of youth coaches
do and and plenty of times, Hey that's okay, right, Hey,
I'm coaching. I'm giving my time. When my kid stops coaching,
that's it. That's what I do. And I get it.

(31:25):
But when you're you're this kind of guy, I mean,
that's kind of what I That's kind of how I
see him now, is I can see him saying, yeah,
they're done, Shadora's gone, He's gone to the NFL, number
one pick in the draft, whatever it's gonna be. I'm done.
I'm done to Colorado. It's not working. All this is happening,
and he's not coaching anymore. So I'm at that point
where I'm looking saying, this is probably his last year coaching,

(31:46):
and I don't know who hires him if he has
a bad year of Colorado.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
In the end, you know, I understand the respect and
you know, I guess to some level historically deferential to coaches, Well,
we're in a new new age, like we've talked about
and how you handle players, going back to everything that
went on with Flores and to a same thing with coaches.
They got to understand, you know, columnists have always you know,
been acid tongued, would be the kind way to say

(32:15):
it and salty, particularly as the season goes on and
a season goes sideways, and so having a little bit
of fun and not just putting coach Prime because even
look the reporters may have a problem with that. But
to go back to last year Sean Lewis, which extole
the virtues of what he was doing offensively the early
part of the season, he started to get a name,
and guess what, the offensive line fell apart, Shuder started

(32:37):
getting hummeled and all of a sudden he got stripped
of play calling and.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Now he's not even there. So he's a head coach elsewhere.
So you've got that going for you.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
But yeah, it just seems to be the pattern. So
if you see coach Prime, get him a hug from us,
and I hope for better days.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, I mean, I'm when I look at it from
that perspective of maybe he knows it's his last year
and I'm gonna do whatever the hell I want to.
I'm gonna do it my way, and that's it, and
Chadura's gone and Shiloh and everything. I'm done. I'm done,
and I'm finished. And if we lose, we lose. If
we win, we win, Hey, whatever happens. But I'm ready.
I'm okay knowing I can. I can not coach after
this year, and that's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
It is some of this the also the type of
relationships you may have where you go and you fight
and then you finally say I'm done, like I'm not
even gonna respond anymore. And this is Dion's way of
I'm not even gonna dignify that with the response, but
taking you know, kind of the easy way out instead
of asking your question, I nod at you and I

(33:36):
say next, We're.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Just It's like the intentional walk in baseball.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Now, we don't even have to throw the four pitches,
all right, just put them on same thing here, all right,
ask your silly question, all right, I'm done.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Next.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
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Speaker 1 (34:03):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon, Yes, sir,
Live from the tire rack dot Com studios and hang on,
I'm just waiting for something. I want to see. Brock
Perdy get up. I want to see brock perty get up. Uh,
I want to see brock Purty get up. Brock Purty

(34:26):
throws a ball that is picked by the Raiders. Raiders
run it back. Purdy comes in to make the tackle,
goes down on his left shoulder, and they have cut
to commercial. How do you cut to commercial? I'm hoping
brock Perty is okay. I mean, I don't know that
he's not. I'm not saying he is, but I hope
he's okay. He went in and made the tackle and

(34:47):
he jumped in led with his left shoulder. I am
hoping brock Perdy is okay. We'll have more on this
coming up in a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
It's a terrible tackling attempt.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Oh boy, what are you doing. It's a preseason Let
him go, let him go. Hey, all right, I'll tackle
you during the season. Just go up the sideline. That's fine,
I understand in. Just go turn down the sideline. And
then he comes sprinting into the screen and you're like,
don't do that, don't don't do that.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
And now we're at commercial break and we tic tick
tick tick tick.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Uh So again, we'll let you know how that goes
hopefully he is Okay. Meanwhile, you know, we we like
to do this once in a while here. We like
to bring you positivity on a Friday, and we like
to have appreciation moments for things in sports that are
just awesome. And we got that today from the Buffalo Bills.
You know, you see this once in a while where

(35:40):
some kind of broadcast and he will set up a
camera at someone at a practice or at at some
sort of event and just get people walking by asking
them random questions like Hey, who's your favorite TV dad? Right?
And people walk by and say, oh, Tom Bosley is
my favorite dad. Right. But there was a camera set
up at Bill's practice and it got people walking by,

(36:04):
and the Bills are walking off the field after practice,
and it was just somebody young, Hey, give me the
name of a random NBA player, right, because you know, hey,
saying around naming random dudes is something that guys we
love to do. And that's one of my big guy
things that I like, Like, I love doing that, right,
So we.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Don't do that enough with us actresses and random musical acts.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, I mean just just saying I mean it's so
much fun, Like Fabiano and Elliott Harris and I do
that all the time and it's so much fun. I'm
not one for Hey, this is kind of this is
kind of a boy like a grown guy thing. No,
this is a complete guy thing that I love doing.
I completely love doing this, just naming random guys. Oh
so so here is some of the Bills players coming

(36:48):
off the field and they are naming random NBA players
and first round pick key On Coleman is the guy
who decides, I'm gonna stay here in front of the
camera and talk to some of my teammates out the
guys they are naming. Take a listen. Jason Richardson, Saint Baddy.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
Michael already said that he didn't that's I did, did
not say Mike Miller.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I said that he wo wow, Bretney Larry is.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
June t Chan I ain't said, I said, Jeff t
Ju Johnson up, Marcus Camdon JUNI is down in tuning
though he played big man for the.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Rat, I said man Zach Randolph.

Speaker 7 (37:33):
Branday Night, Solomon Hill, Jared Breen, uh huh.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Mam, Marry you got little reas, hold on hold on Stopberry.

Speaker 8 (37:44):
Starberry was different though the man you ain't count No
mass I would say love Neuralist, no whel Anthony bid it,
Stanley Johnson, Bryan's gotta brin, I said.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Mike Miller right here, thank you, Mike Miller. Mike Miller.
I mean that was like three minute video, I know, right,
like Josh Allen comes walking off, Jonas Valanchut and staid well.
I mean that was so much fun to watch. And
now I want to trade for Keon Coleman in every
Fantasy league just because I love the fact he's okay,

(38:20):
I'm in charge of this, Like he runs by it
and he says a name and then he just says, no,
I'm gonna make sure that these guys are legit, like
I'm gonna Starbury on and know Starbury was a little
bit bigger. Can't say Starbury, he was min Stefan Marbury
wasn't just a random NBA guy. It's guys like Mike Miller,
Stanley Johnson. Some of the name Cliff Levingston was thrown
out there too. I mean I watched this, ou't like
this is like four minutes. I couldn't get I wanted

(38:41):
to be twenty minutes. I'm just watching go. This is
just awesome content. And the fact that Keon Coleman knows
so many players, like just off the top, like who
they are, Like none of these guys are in his wheelhouse,
Like none of these guys all played when he was
growing up. These are all guys were like ten years
before he was probably watching basketball and he still knew
them all at the top of his head. That was fun.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Scalabrinie, No, Anthony Bennett. We were getting deep, deep cuts there,
and the rules of engagement were that it had to
be random.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
This is great.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
This comes off the heels of the Jets one I
sent you the other day, which was, you know, talking
about what's overrated, and it was anything from food to experiences.
Aaron Rodgers looked at the camera and just said, training camp.
This is great stuff. Doesn't that make you want to
go don't dive through a table?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Oh well, I don't know about that. I don't know that.
I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for Keyon Coleman and
want to try to trade from in fantasy. That's someone
that did. Coming up next, we got a big story
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