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August 27, 2024 • 39 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the Cowboys extending CeeDee Lamb and explain why New Jerry Jones will prevent Dak Prescott from getting paid. NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys to talk the biggest QB battles heading into Week 1. The guys dive into the mess the Patriots have at quarterback. Plus, is Mike Tomlin losing his fastball?!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
The biggest story of the day obviously Cede Lamb getting
paid from the Dallas Cowboys. New Jerry Jones is around
for a while. I'm all in on this season. No
no impetus to pay anybody, not gonna pay you, CD,
not gonna pay you, Dack, not gonna pay you, Mike,
and no, no, no, but Old Jerry showed up today
to give ced Lamb the one hundred and thirty six
million dollar extensione hundred million dollars guaranteed. He is the

(00:51):
second highest paid non quarterback of all time. Now that
being said, and I know that, boy, I love New Jerry,
who would say I'm not doing this, I'm not doing this,
And I know Old Jerry showed up for this. He
ended the won't get fooled again. I know, I know,
New Jerry seemed tough, and I'm doing this and I'm
not gonna pay. I get it. And I think old

(01:11):
Jerry will show up to pay. Michael Parsons. I think
that will happen eventually. But I'm telling you, and I
realized this is all I have. New Jerry's is all
I got New Jerry. And again, this is the fight
that that old Jerry and New Jerry are having in
his head, like who's gonna win out? I remember new Jerry,
New Jerry is gooding. Jerry Jones is kind of like Venom,

(01:33):
where you know there was old Jerry Jones. Yeah, New
Jerry Jones put his head. No, can't let you do that.
Gonna need CD for the season. Didn't give him a
card truck? All right, I'll do that then, But then
you gotta let me take the lead for deck. No,
I'm gonna head uh no, need that at some point too.
They're gonna come sixty two million dollars a year. Nobody

(01:54):
wants that the paper.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
No one reads the paper anymore. Let me see anything
on the internet. So I think we just have a
new book there that might have been one of your
best saints. We got to Venom. Look at that venom,
Jerry Jones.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Uh, let you eat his head after that playoff game
against Green Bay. I gotta tell you, Dak, I had
to hold Venom back. He really wanted to come after
you after that second pick in the first half. I
don't have a lot of depth in the receiving cores.
We can't eat his head. No, no, my need Cooper right,

(02:32):
and Lance just threw five interceptions.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'll give you him. I'll give you him. Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
So I am that that's really a great venom Jerry Jones.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Uh kind of right that we gotta keep going with that?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Uh? I really And I'm telling you I know Old
Jerry showed up. New Jerry will always be in control
of Jerry Jones to not pay Dak Prescott until the
end of the.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Now we're going back into the Spider Man University with devote.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Job looking at the mirror Spider Man.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Look.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
No, I get it, I get it, and I get
I was wrong because I thought Jerry Joe knew Jerry
was here for everybody. But apparently New Jerry is only
going to be here for Dak Prescott. Right, you heard
Jason locking Forth, say, listen, doing a deal like that
with Dak it's a tough thing to do during the season,
especially when Jerry Jones has really drawn a line in
the sand with Dak Prescott more than he has for

(03:27):
CD Lamb or Michah Parsons with CD and Michael Parson
has been well, well, waiting a wait, but with Dak
it's been, Hey, we don't have any sense of urgency.
I'm okay with letting it go. He's okay with Dak
potentially getting the free agency. I'm telling you, the playoff
games of the last two years broke Jerry Jones when
it comes to Dak Prescott, because all you needed was

(03:47):
better quarterback playing both those games and maybe they could
have won. Right now, Obviously, the defense was awful last
year and Jordan Love turned into a superstar, but Dak
Prescott was terrible in the first half and gave the
game away. Go back the year before against the forty
nine when he couldn't even put a touchdown on the
board and Brock Purdy outplayed him, and Jerry's gonna look
and go. This guy's getting paid like twenty bucks a
day and meal money, and I'm giving Dak thirty million

(04:09):
dollars a year, and they lost those two losses. When
it comes to Dak Prescott broke Jerry Jones. Now, it
doesn't mean that Jerry's not gonna pay Dak Prescott. It's
gonna be a smell test. If the Cowboys go far
in the playoffs and Dak Prescott plays well in a
couple of games, Jerry's gonna be the first guy with
his arm around Dak Prescott going here you go, Dak,
here's sixty million dollars a year, and it's all guaranteed

(04:30):
and you're a cowboy the rest of your life. But
short of that happening, Dak Prescott's gone, like, gotta get
use the fact that this is gonna be year where
Dak's gonna go Because the Cowboys didn't get better, They
didn't sign anybody to get better. Everybody else got better.
How are the Cowboys gonna achieve? How are they gonna
get into the playoffs and win a couple of rounds
where Jerry can say this is our guy, Dak Prescott

(04:51):
is our guy. I firmly believe new Jerry will control
Jerry Jones's body enough to not pay Dak and Dak's
gonna be the one that doesn't see the money, and
it's a drama all season long.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
What's funny, though, is when you get into all the
the pressers, you know, Micah and CD, they were kind
of the also rans whenever Jerry would get the Q
and A right, because the quarterback, as we've talked about
low these many years, it rules the world.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
If you don't have one, you're not competing. That mantra
has been repeated on sports talk radio, television, and every
bar in America millions and millions of times. So every
question would have been predicated on are you any closer
to Dak? And then eventually you'd get to CD and
Michael Parksons because parts is still another year away. With CD,

(05:40):
you look at what the rest of the receiving business
has done and the contracts that have been signed. Jamar
Chase interested observer back at camp right the last couple
of days, so you see him around like they're gonna
get to some semblance of sanity in terms of his
monies as well. But for Dak, it's still you're twelve

(06:03):
and five. You're twelve and five, you're winning double digit
games per year and then you get to the playoffs
and it's a different guy and it's a different squad.
And that's been the case. And so thus far Mike
McCarthy's gotten the stay of execution right, the loyalty to
coaches and such that we've certainly seen from Jerry all

(06:23):
these years, and with Dak, he's always been his guy.
And now you're at that next part of things, and
you saw a lot of people starting to stand for
Trey Lance. I bring him up only for the fact
that he throws one touchdown, has five interceptions, but a
lot of deep dives of how many passes he's actually
thrown since high school, it ain't a lot, right, because

(06:44):
remember he did get his shot with the forty nine ers,
showed you some things and immediately got hurt and never
got the job back. So you have no idea and
in Dallas trying to find that cheap alternative to get
the machine running again. Certainly Jerry going to You're gonna
is gonna work that angle as best he can. But

(07:04):
if he comes out and performs at all, I don't
know how you don't pay him like that. That was
that thought. The first domino to fall. Well, yeah, look
that he would just get yeah to old Jerry first.
But I'll even go this far.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
If Dak just has an okay regular season, right, let's
just say, oh boy, Dac. But they squeak in and
Dak has two playoff games where he throws four touchdowns
in each game. Guess what Dak getting sixty million dollars
a year like it's gonna it comes down to the playoffs.
And if Dak Prescott is good, because that's what broke
Jerry those last two games broke Jerry Joe last two
playoff games. I'm not gonna do it. You gotta show

(07:36):
me you can do it in the playoffs for he
give you sixty two million dollars. If that happens, he'll
pay him. But if not, And I say this, that's
why this is gonna last year for Jerry, for Dak
Prescott Dallas, because I don't see how they win. I
don't see a way forward. I don't see away, or
they win the division again. I don't see where they
don't get passed up by by by the by the
Eagles again and by other teams in the NFC, and

(07:57):
how they're not just trying to squeak out a wild card.
How are they gonna do that when the teams that
are also trying to squeak out wild cards all got
better in the offseason. I just don't see that way forward,
which is why I say this is gonna be it
for decks. I don't see a way they get there.
And Dak has those two big games. That's a lot
to ask.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well, you're devoid of a lot of talent beyond whatever
you think of Dak. You got CD back, you didn't
clone him, Gallup retired. Who the hell else is catching
a football?

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Right? Like?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
I like the tight end, he's solid, Ferguson he's fine.
Preston Pierce that good. He's not coming back Tony Hill, Right,
you're not getting your former stars back that yet. You
want to start going through all the seventies guys while
we're at it, they might be able to run better
routes than some of the guys that are running out the.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Right Cosby Nice.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
If you talk about the running back position, Zeke and
Deuce Vaughan, come on, you got nothing there. I mean,
you're bringing in Dalvin Cook kicking the tires. I asked
Jason locking for about it, thinking I might get one
of those Jason Locket for fiery responses of what's that
gonna do, which she kind of said, but not with
the same authority that I thought, Like, you're scrambling at

(09:06):
place Washington's better, decidedly better, at least on paper, and
that's Jaden Daniels is adequate, right, Your wide receiving course better.
You got multiple running backs, a whole new organization, new
head coach, so defensively you'll be better with Quinn there,
all of that stuff. Eagles, you got to assume Siriani
and Jalen Hurts finally broke bread and everybody's happy now.

(09:28):
And then well, last is the Giants, and well we
know what they are, so we kind of pushed that aside.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
But the NFC as.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
A whole, Yeah, last year was the year to try
to run run a bucket and get yourself a deep,
deep run in the playoffs because you had an opportunity.
Very few quality teams. As we look at it now,
there's at least hope, and hope we know now is
a dangerous thing.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Especially when Venom Jerry Jones got to tell you, Venom
Jerry Jones.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Is gonna not pay deck. It's gonna it's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Because here's the beauty of it. At the end it all,
he doesn't have to pay him. You know, there's that
little thing called the CBA see b A. And you
know what I can do? Venom Jerry? What can I do?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Let me just eat a little bit of them?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Let me just eat his hands, No, Nita's hands, catch
passes and throw them ken have them eat his feet.
Then no needs to run. That's dual threat needs to
be able to ge get outside the pocket.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Go or we just never want a couple of toes. No, Nope,
can't do that.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Eat but let's do it that it's the Then we're
not going to give money money, Okay, I got to
deal with that. That's the franchise tag is really what
Venom Jerry becomes in this situation.

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Speaker 1 (11:36):
So ceedee Lamb gets paid? Is Dak Prescott next? What
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Speaker 5 (11:55):
Man?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
What's going on? Gentlemen?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Greetings?

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Great?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I mean, look, old Jerry Jones showed up to pay
Ced Lamb. Does old Jerry Jones show up to now
give Dak Prescott the contract he wants?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:09):
I don't know that. You know, look the Lamb one,
It was hard to come up with any scenario where
Lamb wasn't going to get paid, because even if they
don't want to pay Dak, they're going to need something
to have around. The new quarterback next year, whoever he is,
wouldn't be making Dak Prescott money and certainly is going

(12:31):
to need some help. The one I think that's getting
glossed over here is that this player's twenty five and
it's a four year deal. Like more and more players
and agents are finally getting smarter and hipper and laying
the wall down in terms of the years. So this
isn't like the old days where he would, you know,

(12:51):
maybe give somebody best to breed money but control their
contractual rights for five, six, seven years. That's out the window, right,
A four year deal like by year three were kind
of like, you know, maybe they want to extend, or
maybe he wants to extend, but it kind of continues

(13:12):
to force these sides to do business together for cap
purposes or otherwise every two years. It served Kirk Cousins
incredibly well throughout his career. But this is the first
time Ceedee Lambs made any real money right that wasn't
plotted by his draft status. That's a lot different than Dak,

(13:33):
Like Dax made generational wealth multiple times. Like Dax lived
through the highs and lows where you know he was
Jerry's new found favorite and then you know he he
he served Tony Romo would look to be impossible because
of Jerry's relationship with Tony, and then he soared to

(13:53):
new heights and then they redid that deal again. And like,
I mean, what do you think makes a year from
Pepsi gatorade, you know, from from certa teat number, from
all just his endorsements alone, Like, it's just a whole
different stratosphere when you've been America's team's star quarterbacks for

(14:16):
a decade. So I don't think that one's nearly as
I won't say easy, because nothing was really easy with
the Ceedee Lamb situation either, but I think it's very complicated,
and I think it's a little more personal, and it's
it's the threshold is twice this. You know, we're talking
maybe sixty two sixty three million a year. I don't know,

(14:40):
Like I think it's going to be tricky, and I
think they're running out of time and feels like that
of that magnitude rarely get done in season. He talked
openly about great quarterbacks usually have to go somewhere else
in their thirties finish out their career, and that could

(15:02):
be where this is heading.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, Dak certainly has said a lot of that in
his press. There's no question about adjacent Let's go out
to New England for a minute. Jacoby Brissett shoulder injury.
Mayo says, hey, you know, Drake May's outplayed him, but
that's not the only factor.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
That's one of the greatest quotes ever by a coach.
I think every boss in America should use it. I've
outplayed you, I've outperformed you. But you know what, there
are other factors, Well, there.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Are, and one of those factors is that there's an
inherent implication in some of these latter stage backup quarterbacks,
which is that we're not the finished product, and especially upfront,
we're not very good. So you're getting hazard pay, you
know what I mean. We're not sure just how bad

(15:48):
this offensive line is. It might be got awful, terrible,
but we'd rather find out what you Jacoby Brisset at
the end of your career, making pretty good backup money
doing that than this kid, who you know, we to
hand generational wealth to three years from now. So's that's
the business of football, man. Let's not kid ourselves. Most
of these teams aren't anywhere near contending, and they know it,

(16:11):
and the whole league knows it, and they've got to
play the long game. And the way Jacoby Brissett got
hurt and some of the hits he was taken early
in that game, like, I can't understand not wanting to
take this kid. You just took the top five ticket
and put him out there. So the injury complicates things.
If he didn't get hurt, I don't care what Drake

(16:33):
made did in that game. I think Jacoby Brissett, you know,
was going to be the next guy up and he
was going to wear this for four to six weeks
while they tried to figure out again just how badly
they might suck and how untenable it might be to
put a rookie quarterback out there. I don't envy whomever

(16:55):
is the starting quarterback when they face the Bengals. They're
already nine point underdogs that might quickly become double digiture
if they do go to the rookie. And I don't
like a whole lot of what they have going on
up front. I'm not sure how well they're going to
run the football. They're a mess. That might be, you know,
that might be the worst team in the NFL, especially

(17:16):
considering they've got to play in the AFC, unlike some
of the bad teams in the NFC.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
NFL insider Jason Locking for our guest to Jason Smith
a with Mike Carmon here at Fox Sports Radio. All right,
so away from the quarterbacks. You have your latest bit
on Washington Post. It's up there right now that maybe
are we really and I know fantasy fantasy owners are
gonna love to hear this. Are we maybe getting back
to the age of the running back in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
You got a big piece on this.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
I think I think we are. You look at the
Baltimore Ravens, the Green Bit Packers to Philadelphia Eagles. These
franchises have been lauded for quite some time by their
peers as some of the best in the business. And
they're pretty proactive. They're not afraid to make ballsy moves,
and they're not bound by vention in the way that
some other teams are. They've got young general managers. I mean,

(18:04):
how we're still pretty young. I mean for at this
for a while, but I still feel like these are
relatively young. But regardless, obviously DaCosta is about five years
and it is if they're sitting next to Uzz he's
some all those years. Brian Goutin just you know, he
learned in Green Bay under ted there. And these guys
have come in and all pretty much said, yeah, we
think the thing that's going to put us over the

(18:25):
top is getting a running back on the first day
of free agency, and running backs who they think are
I mean more or less every down guys Like if
Derek Hennery going to play all the time on third
and long, No, but like you know, the guy's got
two thousand carries for a reason. And the other two backs,
sae Quon and Josh Jacobs, you don't have to take
off the field. And I think if you read the

(18:46):
piece they lay out from you know, people from these
various organizations and others who wanted to land a running back,
but just learn as close to contention to pay the price,
you know, feel like you're still getting a lot of
bang for your buck. A three down guy best to
breed twelve million a year. I mean, that's cheaper than
any other position group by far. And these are still
really influential football football players. And the fact that teams

(19:09):
that are two and three years away from contending aren't
in the market for them helps these teams, these winning
teams that do think a running back can put them
over the top. But you know, look at the running
back drafts in recent years compared to wide receiver or
quarterback and other skill position players, how that been nearly
is robust. And the guys I talked to who dove
in this year, part of the reason why they did is, Hey,

(19:31):
these running backs, again, the difference from being the thirty
year old Henry, but these other guys are still all
relatively young, and this upcoming running back draft doesn't look
like it's going to be special, So we're not always
going to have three elite guys on the market at
the same time. That's a bit of an anomaly. But
I think what Josh Jacobs did with the Raiders a

(19:51):
few years ago and getting them to tear up that
franchise tag and give him real guaranteed money on top
of it, started to swing this pendulum. And I do
think our front offices are going to look at this
and say, you know what, we can copycat that?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
All right?

Speaker 4 (20:04):
We got one last guy twenty nine years old going
for a visit former jet.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Okay, he was actually good in Minnesota, Dalvin Cook.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
We were talking about relationships and Jerry whatever does he
brought Ezekiel Elliott Elliott back? Can they you know, mending
all those fences or whatever. Can Dalvin Cook go in
and take the job from him?

Speaker 5 (20:24):
I mean maybe, but that's not saying anything. I mean
they have no running game, but that's that's gonna put
up ridiculous numbers in his walk gear, and he's gonna
if he plays it out there and stays healthy, I
think he's gonna throw for forty five hundred yards and
a bunch of touchdowns. I'm not going to be a
great team, but he's gonna go somewhere and get sixty three,
sixty four, sixty five million dollars next year. Watchoul probably
be Mark Davis. But no, it doesn't make a difference.

(20:47):
Dalvin Cook looked really done in Baltimore last year, Like
I just don't see him getting his legs back. I
think it's pretty much over, and it's over for Zeke
and it's it's it's over for now boys having an
elite offensive line, and I actually they're going to struggle
to run the ball.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking forward, that is at
Jason locking for as he counts down to syraccuses open
her Friday night against Ohio. Jay is always buddy, appreciated,
my friend, We'll.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Talk to you.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
So I was on campus Saturday moving my daughter in.
Oh everybody herrit and said, get the hell out of here.
I'm like, we're not going to dinner, We're not. Are
you doing breakfast tomorrow morning? Like you were shobbing this
time of year. She's like, no, you guys, threty your
old tracyse next game or do whatever you're gonna do. Wow.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Did didn't go to the varsity weather once? Didn't get Wow?

Speaker 5 (21:34):
I went to the Varsiti with my with my little guy.
I took the tato there, but no she was I
bought them back. I bought my daughter and my wife
back lunch. They finished setting her room up, and then
she kicked us all out.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Okay, there we go, all right, something to look forward to.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
K there was between freshman year and sophomore year, right there.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, everybody, have a great week.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Enjoy.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
We will talk to you next week. Thanks about it.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
There's time when you say to your friends, hey, I
think you're in a bad relationship.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Every time you do the movie wipe in the face.
Like for those that'll see the video of it, you'll understand.
But before you get into your story, I just have
to say, you did the full I didn't do the face.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
It's it's a cleansing that I do. I said, okay, because.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
There's times when something you you know, a friend is
in a relationship and it's not great. It doesn't seem
like it's good and it's healthy and a little bizarre
to go. You know, you need to get out of
that relationship.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
You want to be supportive. Yeah, nothing, you listen.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Another thing absolutely horrible is but it's like, I don't
think this is a relationship for you.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Sure, I don't think it is.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
And I want to say that because after seeing the
way the Steelers are dealing with Russell Wilson, I want
to say I think this relationship is bizarre and unhealthy.
I don't think this is a relationship for you. All
the pressure in the world on Russell willis to make
something happen with the Steelers this weekend. Right who knows
what's going to happen with the offense. Mike Tomlin's upset

(23:06):
with everybody need to be more varsity and less JV.
And the Steelers go out there and you know that
that Justin Field is going to come in for Russell Wilson. Wilson,
there was a lot of pressure to do something. One
drive that results in a thirty one yard touchdown run
from Cordero Patterson on a drive that Russell Wilson is
two for two on completion number one minus six yards,

(23:28):
completion number two twenty six yards, Tomlin pulls him from
the game. Seen enough, That's what That's all we wanted. Hey,
dollar cost averaging. He got the job done and they
found the end zone. Like, dude, you are talking about
and this is where I look at Mike tom and
I go, have you?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Are you losing your fastball? Like that?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like I'm at the point with Tomlin where I kind
of feel like I was with Belichick.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Are you losing your fast.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
I've equated him together all you know right where you're
dancing and trying to cobble together an offense. For the
last five years you've ranked outside the top twenty. You've
made some questionable higher And don't tell me he doesn't
have a hand in personnel decision. As much as we
want to talk about Omar Kahn and whoever.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Else, but this is because I saw him talk after
the games. We just want to see him and we
got it right out of the game. You have no
idea if he can run this offense. But you're making
an excuse for Russell Wilson. Let's get him out of
the game before something bad happens, like you do that
with a rookie quarterback. Hey, we want to get you
a little bit of confidence. We take you out of
the game before something bad happens. You're in a positive
frame of mind. Do you really and if you do,

(24:27):
you really do that with Russell Wilson? And if you do,
is he really the right guy? Like you have no
idea how your offense is gonna look. But he's completed
one pass for positive yards. Okay, No, that's it. That's
all I needed to see. Fields went and he played
pretty well as well. But I feel like the Steelers
have made their decision and they're just Nope, we're going
with Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Does it make sense? No, But blindly they have decided
to make excuses for Russell Wilson and just ignore real
problems they might have Offensively, No, no, we don't need to.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Say he got rightside. That's all I need to say.
Just through that one pass again. If you do that
for rookies, and if you need to do that for
Russell Wilson, he's not your guy. But still, this is
what Pittsburgh does. I mean, Mike Tomlin, is that fastball Nola?
Is that fastball at ninety two now instead of ninety eight?
Like that's kind of what I when I look at
tom and I go that's my takeaway from this week.
We can still coach him up defensively.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
It's absolutely equates to what we watch with Belichick, right,
the talent evaluator versus the coach two different things, two
different things, and certainly from a coaching perspective, once they
get out there, assuming TJ. Watt's healthy on the defensive side,
you've got a unit that's probably gonna hold other teams
to eighteen to twenty points a game. Great, can you
score twenty points a game? I don't care who's quarterbacking,

(25:39):
whether it's Wilson or Fields, the answer is probably not.
I mean I do like Cord Darryl Patterson always did
from in every one of his stops. There's always been
some electricity there. So maybe you get some gadgetry that
you can work in and creativity if Arthur Smith's gonna
be able to be that guy. But for Russell, Wilson
said it for weeks, felt they they now were obliged

(26:02):
to make up make good to him because of the
sled that took him out of training camp for a
couple of weeks. But all in that, you're looking at
a coach who's able to trade and he is able
to get the best on game day, but some of
the decision making is gonna scratch your head all the
way through. And I love Tomlin, I love his candor.
This whole situation is just a head scratcher in terms

(26:26):
of trying to get it to the last day. Because
guess what, these are not young quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Right. If you're saying, well, it's a surprise, guess what.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
There's a decade of tape on Russell Wilson and four
years on Justin Field. And I've always held this tenant
and you can tell me I'm wrong. Is if you're
worried sending a guy to the bench is gonna, you know,
make him lost, then he's not the guy. And he
never was gonna be the guy, because professionals battle back

(26:56):
from that, no matter their walk of life.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
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Speaker 1 (27:10):
The Patriots after Drake May is Good exhibition this past weekend. Right,
Drake May looked pretty good. Look the best he's looked
this season. Looks like he's a little bit in control.
Is he going to be the starting quarterback for the Patriots. Well,
Drod Mayo went on Boston Radio earlier today, and let's
slip something that so many people are criticizing him on.

(27:33):
Let's hear the Patriots head coach, is what he had
to say about when he's going to pick the starting
quarterback for the Patriots.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
It starts in practice and also in the game where
Drake has played better. Now, in saying that, you know,
everyone wants to know about who the starter is going
to be, I think there are multiple factors that kind
of have to go into this decision. One is the
total body of work, whether we're talking about the spring
or the entirety of training camp. And now I'll also

(27:59):
say oftentimes we forget about just the overall experience that
a guy like Jacoby has and which will also be
weighted in the decision that we have to make here
in the near future.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
So this is girod Mayo admitting that Drake may has
played better, but there's other things to go other things
to talk about. And what he did was talk about
the full body of work from all the way back
in the spring to now. And I'm not a good
coach be and I see so many I see so
much criticism of this, and this has gone over like
a lead balloon all day for Gerrod Mayo, What are

(28:29):
you doing? What are you saying? This guy's better? If
you're not going to start it with a really bad
offensive life, what are you saying?

Speaker 3 (28:34):
What are you saying? What are you saying? And I
wanted and say really bad offense? That's what everybody else
put it in there. I put it.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Everybody knows how bad the offensive line is with the Patriots, right.
I don't see there being too much of a problem
here outside of okay saying that Drake May has out
played Jacoby Brissette. That might not be the greatest thing
to say because of what that what brings.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Along with that?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
If he's better than why is he not kind the
way he said it, bringing spring and everything in?

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Right, you're employing during this process, May has been the
better guy.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, And it doesn't matter if you're saying, wow, Jacoby Britt.
I read Jacoby Brissett back in a mini camp in June.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Who gives a crap?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
If Drake May is better on the field, now, Drake
May should be the quarterback. So I don't see this
being some kind of failure and Girod Mayo was not
up for the job, and what's he doing? No, he
was a little too honest, That's all I could say.
But I don't have any doubt that his thinking and
his philosophy is okay.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Drake may is the better guy.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
But if we put him out there, he's gonna get
killed because our offensive line is terrible. But I'm not
gonna throw the offensive line under the bus, So I'm
gonna say things like there's a lot out there. I'm
also not gonna lose Jacoby Brissett by instead of saying, oh, Drake,
Drake's been great, I'm gonna say it's a whole big
body of work. So Jacoby Brissett knows, Hey, the stuff
I put in the spring was a big deal. This

(29:57):
is back when Drake may was continuing to learn. So
what did what did Gerard Mayo really do in all
of this? He's got Drake may feeling good about himself.
He's got Jacoby Brissett feeling good about himself even though
he's been outplayed. He's not called out the offensive line
for being terrible, which everybody knows it's bad. I fell
to see the problem here. I think everybody knows that

(30:18):
fans are pretty savvy. I know that we like to
think that all fans are sheep, and I get that,
but you got to understand that when fans want to
and when people want to, they can understand something.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's not suddenly I don't know what this was.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
This is not where hey, when a movie fails at
the box office and and somebody asked one of the
studio heads and they go, well, the time change this
weekend really screwed with people, you know, with the time
change going on, and nobody went to see it on Sunday.
It's like, come on, man, people aren't that only quarterbacks?
People aren't that stupid? Oh I have the time change?
Like like, so many people went to the theater at
ten thirty, but it wasn't playing until eleven thirty, so

(30:51):
they all went home. I mean that's just dumb, right,
I mean I give people a little bit more credit
than that. Yes, I get the people are sheep thing,
and I understand, but something like this. The Patriots know,
the players know, the fans know, they get it.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
They get that.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, if we put Drake May out there right now
in a season where we have no expectations, where no
one's expecting us to compete for the playoffs, no one's
expecting us to win the division. On paper, we have
one of the worst rosters in all of the NFL. So, okay,
bringing Drake may along slow, all right, I kind of
get it. But the way Grod Mayo was just attacked

(31:24):
today by so many people and pundits and experts said, oh,
what's he doing? What's like, No, he's kind of doing
the right thing, except yeah, I will say he didn't
by saying that, hey, he's outplayed him. Okay, now you're
making it seem like, wait, a guy can play better
and not win a job. I think that's the one
thing he would like to have back. But everything else,
the message he put out there, I was a big

(31:45):
fan of. I think Trod Mayo is going to be
a fine head coach, right, he just has to understand
what he can say, what he can say. Now he's
getting Okay, I get why Belichick said what he said.
He was always short of press conference. No one could
take anything Bill Belichick said and twisted against them because
I guarantee you he learned that lesson today. Was it
a big fatal lesson from as a head coach. No,
this is just okay, boy, I really got to choose
my words carefully. I'm in the zoom type setting. I

(32:08):
can't say he's out play the guy, because you know
how that's going to go going forward. And that's why
he's in this big push right now of oh, you're
you're not gonna play a guy even though he's better.
But the offensive lines and now it's, oh, what's going on?
I don't think it's that big a deal. And and
Mayo said, and put the right message out there, because
if the offensive line stinks and Drake May gets hit

(32:29):
and he gets knocked out and he gets hurt, what
are people gonna say? Why was he out there? Why
was he out there? So why wasn't Jacoby Brissett out there?
And maybe and we didn't see Drake May till middle
of the season when maybe the offensive line got better.
They jelled a little bit, we can protect the guy
a little bit more. I mean that's exactly how it's
going to go. Yeah, I think if you start going
down all the different portions of your squad that are

(32:52):
are lacking, how much confidence are you instilling? You're you're
basically throwing up a white flag before week one, right
because if he's he was honest without really starting to
lay out everything, we all know that the offensive line
is a work of producs.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Brissette took that huge hit. So is he even gonna
be available for week one? I don't know, but I
look off the jump. You got Ana Rumo's group from Cincinnati.
It's one of the best coordinators out there. They're healthy,
they're ready to go. Okay, look at the opening run here,
and it's not just a let's get to week five,

(33:32):
week six, whatever. And in theory now, not only do
we know what we have, but Drake may has been
in a meeting room now for five weeks of a
regular season and that'll be great for him, which you
can do. But you look at the schedule off the jump,
it's awful. It is about as bad a gauntlet as
you can run. And you know that. It takes a

(33:54):
lot for me to say that because one of those
games against Jets. But you've got the bad on the
road to start the season, Seattle, whatever they are, guy
can coach up defenses, right. So week two, Week three
is on the road at the Jets, Week four on
the road against the forty nine Ers. That's your first

(34:16):
four games, and then you finally at least get, in
theory some level of relief because you play the Dolphins
with the reconstituted defense but with one of the best
offenses in the game. So I mean that's your first
five weeks. Oh and then your your gift in week
six is the Texans and trying to navigate that.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
There's like no easy game. And I get it.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
They're a team that we're only expecting what three and
a half, four and a half wins is. They're over
under anyway, so you're not expecting them to be world beating.
But here you're not even close in any of these games. No,
at least on paper. No, your defense is gonna be
good enough to keep you in games. But it's like
what we've been asking, and we'll get to the Steelers
in full of fact in a moment, but it's the same.

(35:01):
It's like, can I get you to twenty one because
that's the benchmark for your offense. Can I get you
to twenty or twenty one points? You might win a
few of those games because your defense special teams will
be good enough to keep you there. But in this case,
the Drake May Jacoby Brissette conundrum is just this, you're

(35:22):
not expecting to be good. Is there something really to
be gained by starting him week one other than we
drafted him high and we feel we have to And
that's where as got it.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Here's the but here's where where you where you lose
that because because he had such a good game, and
because he showed that he's got a grasp of the offense,
he can make plays with his legs. Now, everybody, everybody
at least and and and and fans and the media
and the locker room and the Patriots go, okay, we
know he's got it now. So it's not like we
can sit him and it's gonna be the big question.

(35:56):
Is he any good boy?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Really? Biff this boy?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
This guy is terrible at least these with these performances,
his performance at least there's these performances. Oh okay, he
really settled this all down now that that he's going
to be okay, And there's a reason why some of
these other teams are throwing out their rookie quarterbacks. Look,
Kaleb Williams team looks like it's locked and loaded ready
to go. Jayden Daniels makes a lot of plays with
his legs. He's okay in that when that commander's offense.

(36:20):
Bo Nicks certainly can stand up and and and with
the way the Broncos are built, he's not going to
go in there and just get crunched every time he
drops back to pass. Patriots are different because they're starting
over more so than these other teams are so at
least that that there, that takes that part of the
pressure off that. Okay, we don't think he's any good.
Oh we know he might be good. We just can't
put him out there to.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Get killed, which is another difficult thing to sell. But
we want him now, yeah, trust me, Yeah, trust me.
You want him up right, all right, You want him
up right because your line stinking yes.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
But eventually he will play because he can. It's gonna
get but he can make plays with this list. He's
already going and with shoulder sling. You are going to
figure out some sort of best version of your offensive
line at some point, right to the point where it's
not we just put a guy out there and he's
gonna get crushed every single week. Eventually you're gonna be
at the part where you feel and that's when Drake

(37:17):
mag will start. Okay, do we feel good about the
offensive line? You feel about as good as we can.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
All right.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
We've had a couple of weeks in a row where
maybe they're not great, but it's not a turnstile and
we're not looking back. Going boys, Kobeercept has had nine sacks,
and everybody's saying in fantasy, load up whoever's playing the Patriots,
load up stream that defense. Once you get to that
point where, hey, the offensive line is the best version
of itself, then Drake magwell.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
All right, So then after those games I gave you before,
then you get a road trip with the Jaguars, then
the Jets again okay, then the Titans okay, then on
the road at Chicago, top ten defensive year, Yeah, got better.
Made a couple of deals in the last week to
a lot of offers right there, and then the Rams.

(37:59):
I mean, Aaron over back, he may come back just
for that game, maybe just that had some stats a
little bit. Then you're on the road at the Dolphins,
then other good defense, then the Colts. Yeah no, it's
just that's gonna be tough. I mean, towards the end
of the season. Then you got the Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
That's good. There you go. That's circle that game, Circle
that game.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Eddy. Here's my favorite things about the schedules. Any final
three weeks Bills, Chargers at home, and then the Bills
at home.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, that's not a lot of great spots. Not okay,
but you've got to go in some point. Gotta go
in at some point though it's a soft spot, we
don't have one. That doesn't matter. You gotta go in,
you gotta go, you gotta jump off at some point.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Churts is also our frame of reference if we're expecting
three wins, so a couple of those might actually be
winnable games, and we're looking at it from the lens
right now, like, yeah, that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
That's not a loss. That's another one. They've got a
good pass rusher.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
So we say we think we're gonna szag. Hey, everything
is fine in New England. It's not all doom and gloom.
After what Geron Mayo said.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
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Speaker 1 (39:00):
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