August 28, 2024 • 39 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon talk about fantasy football, the Browns QB situation, and FSR MLB insider Jon Paul Morosi stops by.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Greetings, then welcome inside to what is so far a
perfectly acceptable enough Tuesday, The Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
You just took it to nothing lead, come on to
nothing lead.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But the Braves are winning four to three and the
Padres are winning six to five. So I mean it's
so far it's acceptable. We'll see how it plays out
at that time. So the ways to go here man, positivity, Man,
I'm telling that's why.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Heyday, I am. Okay, here's better. Okay, welcome in sid Well.
We gotta do it again. We do it again, do it,
do it again, start again, start again, start again. Here's
how we do it. Here's how we do it. Here's
let's start again. Start again. Here we go. Mary. When
I say that, I mean start the music again. That
means start the music, start the music that what do
you mean you can't do that?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You are you or you're not in charge of running
the music and the board and everything else.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He told you to mess up the first time.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It was a perfectly acceptable open until Harmon pointed something
out and I said, okay, I want to be more accurate.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Okay, so so so conversation. So she probably was.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, I was on my phone with my friend, and
you know, I really thought you guys were taking the
show now, So I'm sorry. I said, let's give me
Narco again, give me Nark again. We'll we'll start again,
the right way.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
To start, the right wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, wait.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Wait, I gotta put my phone down and tell you, hey, Debbie,
text you later. Guys are being real idiots here on
the show, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I don't even have a friend name with Okay, okay, Janie,
I don't have I don't know how that would be distress.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I have my my friend Diana.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Dianna is the one you're texting.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, I'm not texting anyone.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Actually, Oh okay, could you stopped to put the phone o?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No? No, actually mej was you know, give me a
fib tell me goodbye.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Oh okay, okay, saying okay, you have to throw him
under the buck on the radio and the truth. Okay, okay, okay, Yeah,
I hit me Narco again.
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Speaker 3 (02:52):
Is that bad? Cautiously optimimist? Cautiously optimistic? That man?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I call it pretty good. White Sox got their games suspended. Yeah,
it's like it's this guy is about to open up
over pearl jam there at regular Field.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's not looking good.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It almost looks like a scene straight out of the
original Ghostbusters over the stadium right now. So I think
we've got some chaos getting ready to ensue.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And look before we get to football.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Just you know, you know, this is what's gonna really,
this is gonna grind by gears. If you wind up
at the end of the season not having the worst
record of all time. So the sixty two Mets stay
in the record books because you have games suspended that
never get mail.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
There's no real reason to make this up.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And don't you feel bad for the White Sox that
they're so bad all and suddenly you're only playing one hundred.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And fifty five games. No, we don't need those, we
don't need those other seven. It's absolutely fine. Don't worry
about it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Winning percentages okay, that they won't go down as the
worst team of all time.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Now I can see that happening. Baseball doing you at solid.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You would expect a lot of those games April and
into May, because you still get snow and really torrential downpours.
You get into the and a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
More of that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Usually this is about the time of year where it's
really nice to go to Chicago. Temperatures come down a
little bit, still gonna be a little bit muggy, but
you can go take a walk along the lake and
then you've got some of the greatest outdoor bars you're
gonna find across this great American landscape. And today the
sky has decided to open up maybe looking out for
Grady Sizemore and trying to keep him from aging too
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terribly rapidly.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Every game you play, every game, every Jason game, we
have as many blown saves as we do wins thirty
one and thirty one.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Baby, let's go. I like that. Yeah, yeah, I just
want to say that.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
If you were a better get this. I saw this
stat earlier, If you were a betting man, and we've
talked about this a bunch, we're gonna peel it back
just a little bit after the fifth inning, you would
be down two units for the year. That's how competitive
they are real and they get out to early. Wouldn't
literally only be down despite the future misery what the
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season that has been. You would be down two whole units.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So if games were only five innings, you might be
you might be in the playoff of five hundred.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Sure, how about that?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So look love Big Baseball Night. Obviously, as were getting closed,
you know a lot of races are affected. But obviously
look today being cut down day in the National Football League,
and we all saw some names getting let go. That
are all names we've watched play the last few years.
Whether it's Bailey Zappi or Kadarius Tony, big names out there,
Desmond Ritter gets let go.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But I always come back.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
To this, right, and I think about this, like when
I saw today James Robinson getting cut, Alan Robinson getting cut,
Miles Gaskin getting cut, and to an extent, seeing a
couple other players get cut. To Kadarius Tony a little bit.
I always say, I always think about these guys and
I go, you know, if I had a machine, okay,
(06:01):
finding time machine, this is of all the things you
would do, I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I would do this.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I would bet on this. I've got here's here's here's
the definitive thing I would do if I had a
time machine and it was easy for me to go
back to any time I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Right, it was easy to this. This is what I
would do. Just bop around the time. Get it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I would go back to right after these guys had
their big rookiear second year seasons. Right, I would go
right after t when James Robinson had his been I
would get him on my team for their rookie year,
their big year. Because James Robinson had a phenomenal rookie year,
ran for a thousand yards. We all thought he was
gonna be great. Alan Robinson had that huge twenty sixteen season.
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All my Allan Robbins is gonna be awesome. Miles Gaskin
had that one year at the Dolphins where you thought, oh,
he's gonna be the number one running back.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
At how great it is to have him.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I would go back in time and I would get
all of them on my team for that year, and
I would trade them at the end of the year,
and everybody else would say to me, Oh my god,
you're insane. What are you doing your trans go go ah.
I got a feel him. I think this is gonna
be it. I think it's the best we're gonna see. Oh,
you're crazy, y'all. Make that trade for all?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Who do you want? Who do you want? I'll take uh. Oh,
I don't know. Uh you know, you know what? Give me?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Uh you know what? Give me?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Give me this Brady kid that the Patriots drafted out
of the out of Michigan to the sick card. Yeah no,
but I would go get people who are so incredibly unherolded.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's what you want, Yeah, that's what I want. That's
what I want.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh, all right, then and all of a sudden, guys
that go from undrafted to making Pro Bowls and everything,
or at least being great fantasy players. That's what I
would do. And I would have everybody say, you're crazy,
You're crazy. I just stole James Robbinson for you. I
just stole Miles Gaskt from you. Yeah, and I got
a first round pick or a second rounder.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I got this.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And I would just wait and let the season play out,
and just so I could say at the end, told you,
told you, let's make another trade, told you, told you?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, I would really do these guys well.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Obviously it's one of the worst forty eight hour periods
that we see as the cut down to fifty three happens,
and then we start seeing just to shovel some guys
will end up what the practice squads are seventeen large
so guys. Some guys will get another chance and hang
on for another run. Others will get into whatever the
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next part of their lives are either media opportunities, perhaps
back towards their alma maters, to go back to school,
or whatever the case may be, the next next career.
But yeah, just a ton of names and like, all right,
that guy was with number three wide receiver on the
number of my fantasy squad. I'm looking at you, Tim
Patrick or kJ Hambler, another guy that was expected to
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take some step forward, and now we're watching the roster shuffle. Hell,
that was one of the things out of Hard Knocks.
You started to love all those backup quarterbacks from the
Bears because you got to meet their families. So they
played on your emotions. And now they're gone, as the
Bears only carry two going forward. Yeah, so we'll see
what happens there, whether Ripping finds his way or the
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everybody's favorite read finds himself another job. I don't know,
but you know they did a good job of again
keeping hard nooring and basically saying you're never going through
these hallways again.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
We fulfilled our commitment.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now you take us out of that tumbler for future iterations.
But I like, I like your time machine kind of thing.
If you do time in a bottle, this is what
I do with it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, I mean, like all the other I would go
back and I would buy stock here and I would
do this, and I'd be rich.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'd be a millik.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well, if I could go back in time, I got
time to do all that stuff. I would definitely spend
a good bunch of time going let me go back
James Robinson. I don't know if I could let James
Robinson go.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Man, the guy ran for it, because remember, like man
was doing his thing and it was years in a
matter of seconds that he was experienced.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Ah could I could? I could? I could? I trade?
I don't know, Man, he's really good. You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You know what, listen, I'll you know what. Who'd you
get in the first round of the d you know what?
Give me Give me that new kid, Tyreek Hill, give
me him. I I don't know if he's gonna be
any good.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
He's a rookie. Who knows. I'll give you, James, I'll
give you a thousand yard rugger. You give me Tyreek Hill?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
What a deal? I stole him from you? Smith? Yeah
you suck Smith? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And then I would wait until the end of the year,
would just go I did it. I told you I
would so do that. I mean, I go back the
other stuff too. Sure, I would really go back to
the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
You'd go and find somebody else being more amenable to
maybe giving them a hat.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yes back when you were the kid. Sure, you gotta
listen to the whole show.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
It's a really rich, marvel cinematic universe kind of timeline
that we're traversing right now. But the other hard part
of today, Jason, was all the number of the players
that just litany of players that ended up going to
the injured reserve, not just the pup list, because most
of those guys we kind of expected, but some that
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were all right, pup list, maybe we'll see what happens. No,
flat out ir Aj Dillon or Elijah Mitchell kind of
out of the blue. I just drafted him in a
guillotine league. Guess what happened two guys later or even
the next guy after me. It was like Jordan Mason,
and then twenty four hours later, it's no longer just
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a hamstring injury. It's a season ending hamstring injury. So
another hard part of the continuum here, just forty eight
hours of the reality shock. Even though we're getting all
the ticker tape parades and fantasy drafts. We got guys
showing up to their drafts and limos and all these
other videos making their way around, but some harsh reality
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for a number of NFL players.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, I mean, you see some of these guys who
were just such lynch pins a couple of years ago
and now out there looking for work.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
We knew Tim Patrick was going to get let go
earlier in the he was gonna get trained, all right,
Now the Lions are signing Tim Patrick. So okay, Look,
it was a.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Really big day with movement and guys and guys going
moving from one place to another. But man, I always
think back to if I could do stuff like that,
that would be that. That would be the most awesome thing.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
You're missing the point of the exercise, Soner, that would
be the No one would ever clean stuff up because
just think, just think, they would go.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
How is it this guy knows everything.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
He's the real fantasy football genius in this league because
he makes trades of guys who were fantastic.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Wait a minute, and then they suck. But doesn't he
always gets the unheralded guy.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
But does Bif Tanning exist in this universe? Is Back
to the Future been released? Does the Almanac exist?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, I'd have to go back before that and get
the almanacs, right you.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And you would be in Back to the Future. No,
that's the real guy.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I wouldn't be in a fantasy league with Bift. I
would avoid I would not be Fift tann and Celebrity League.
I would not be in THEE.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Now we have an all timeline to where it becomes
a John Wick kind of situation and you're hunting down Nift.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Tan, Dude, don't trade with Jason. Why because you think
you're getting the most unbelievable trade possible. Like, yes, man,
I'm telling you, dude, don't do it. Why don't do it?
Why because? Man, look a few years ago, Alan Robinson's
coming off this huge year with Blake Bortles, and he's unbelievable,
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and you know, I don't know how good Lamar Jackson's
going to be.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
He's a rookie, doesn't get drafted really high.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So you know I traded him Amar Jackson and Robins.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Like, yeah, that's what I want to. Don don't trade
with Jason.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Now, eventually I'd have to stop because I'd or had
to join different leagues because people would say I can't,
don't dry.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
They just wouldn't do it. They'd say, whatever you wanted,
I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, but in this type of scenario, you can change
your identity and pop in.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
A different times. That is true.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I mean there's lots of ways this works out to
your advantage.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I could easily do that. Who's that guy? Trade with him?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I don't know, man, Yeah, but then you got guys
that are around calling you the devil you show up
or the ghost.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I just call you the ghost.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You pop in and win a Fantasy Leagues and whatever
happened to that guy, he came, collected his winnings and
he was never seen again.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
This guy wants to trade me Cadarius Tony for Julian Edelman.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I'll do that one, sure, you know. I mean that's
kind of fun stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Man, look at you fun creating chaos across many timelines.
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Speaker 3 (15:41):
That it's becoming a glorious Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Well it's not that glorious because the Padres already won,
the Braves already know what.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah, can I tell you what I'd what I'd give
I mean, I'd give up my carrot cake look for
a minute or two to get a win once in
a while.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Oh dat to nothing? Eh? You know, it's a mediocre Tuesday.
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I am doing great? I have arrived with very strong
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Are you?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Where do you stand on carrot cake.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Carrot cake is outstanding. I am a huge fan of
carrot cake. It is actually one of the more popular
cakes in our family for birthday. So we are doing
we are definitely pro carrot cake in this family.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
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Speaker 7 (17:26):
That would be a great commercial, although it would it
would require my kids to be aware of TV. That is,
that is not necessarily what they're watching on a daily basis,
so sports, those sorts of things are not really that'd
be probably a popular commercial for holiday, you know, football
games during the commercial breaks. We're not really a football
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watching family outside of when I am able to focus
on why the Lions will win a given game twenty
seven to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
All right, well, great call back to the last year.
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Are your kids aware of the seasons that Otani and
Aaron Judge are having? Like, are they aware that in
there whee allows and stuff they ask you about?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Is it not like?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
What is it? Let's put it this way. It should
be because every sentient human in our country should be
tuned into this.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It is.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
It's remarkable what's happening here. This season, thanks to the
two of them, is already one of the best we've
ever seen in the history of the sport. And when
you consider what Judge is doing, we thought that sixty
two once was going to be almost impossible, and now
he's on pace to do it twice in a span
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of three years. And with Otani, we're running out of
words here. He's comfortably on tasee for forty five forty five,
which we've never seen, and he's got a legitimate shot
at fifty fifty, which we've really never seen. So it
is it's just remarkable. Well, we are I think blessed
as baseball fans to be watching what they're doing right now.
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And certainly the irony though, is that in the American League.
I certainly think that Judge is a favorite for the
for the MVP, but bodywoo, Junior's got a case too,
and what he's been doing for the Royals. So it's
a It's a really interesting time right now in the sport,
and I feel very very grateful to watch it up close.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Fun series going on. Now, We've got the Orioles in
town to face said Dodgers and show hey Otani Freddie
Freeman out with the finger injury. But is this potential
what we see towards the end of October here JP,
Can the Orioles pitching survive and get through?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I tell you what we have still, I'm operating in
this space right now where I have. I do not
recall a time where more of the best teams in
baseball seem to have significant flaws that put their entire
October journey into question. With the Dodgers, if you're gonna
tell me that Yamamoto comes back healthy and that Glass
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now comes back healthy, then sure then I could see
the Dodgers playing in the last game of the season.
If they do not, If the answer to both those
questions is no, with both glass Now and Yamamoto, I'm
not sure they'll make it out of the first round.
I mean, it's that the gap between who they will
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be if those two injury questions are not answered in
the affirmative, and the gap between that low point and
who they could be on the high point is immense
for the Dodgers, and as you point out, there are
certainly still some lineup concerns or some lineup related injury
concerns too, So I think actually, despite the current form
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of both teams, I feel a little more sure of
who the Orioles are than who the Dodgers are, even
though obviously with the case the O's, they thought they
had made a nice upgrade at the trade deadline to
their rotation, and then of course they ended up having
to option them down to the minor league, so there's
I think there certainly are still some concerns there with
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Rogers just being sent out with a seven point one
one ERA, so you're right there are some legitimate rotation
worries with Baltimore, But I tend to think that I
know a little bit more about who they are as
a team than I do about the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
All right, now, let me ask you this on a
scale of one to ten. If one is it's not happening,
it's fodder, it's fun to talk about, And ten is,
oh no, this is absolutely happening. Sho Hao Tani the
first fifty to fifty player in the history of Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Where would you put it on that list? From one
to ten, I.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Think it's at a seven right now? Why not? And
the thing is what helps him is that he probably
will get pitch two and see more pitches to hit
than Judge will in his pursuit of history. That is
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one significant difference. It's based on the lineup dynamics around
the two players. And for Otani to be stealing the
number of bases that he is, you obviously have to
credit the baseball acumen of the guy's right after him,
because they're taking the right pitches, they're allowing him to
steal bases. Dave Roberts is keeping the green light on
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when honestly, in a lot of ways, it'd be the
easy decision to maybe pull back a little bit. This
is showing Otani you've invested seven one hundred million dollars
in this player, do you really want them tumbling into
second base all these times on solo basis? And I
give the Dodgers credit for letting him be himself. That
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to me is one of the more remarkable things that
we have seen to this point, is that he's able
to basically run free. So I'm I'm not gonna put
any limitations on showy Otani. Everybody that thought he might
stop at five hundred million dollars, well, we were sadly mistaken.
He overshot that like two hundred million, so you underestimate
Showe at our own peril.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
To be fair, they're only paying him two million now,
so they can run him all over the place.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
That's right, of course.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yes, he's a parking right now, John Paul, come on, man,
you gotta see this like.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
A rock party running around. You're on a rookie deal
and he's the biggest park in all the notes right now.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Right The big money comes in around twenty sixty five
something like that, So I think we're we're okay.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
All the fun that comes there, all right, Houston, Now
eight games over five hundred, here they are once again
as we get into September, JP they've taken the show's team,
the Seattle Mariners, and kick them to decide for the
moment and great distance from everybody else in the division.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
How dangerous are they?
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Well, they are dangerous, But I tell you what, the
Mayor haven't gone away yet either. And I know the
Mariners is in typical form for them. They're now locked
in a very low scoring game against the Rays, just
trying to get that offense going in Seattle for new
manager Dan Wilson. But I look at Houston and I
look at their lineup. They signed Jason Hayward today for
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a reason, which is they've got some offensive concerns. First
base has been a series of question marks ever since
a bray You struggled so much and was released. They
may actually have Bregman playing a little bit of first
base now because of his elbow issue. So I think
for a lot of different reasons right now, the Astros
are not a perfect team. They need to rest Altuve
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a bit more than they ever have before. And the Mariners,
partially because of the new manager, partially because you just
cannot hit that poorly for that long. They're gonna bounce
back offensively, So I'm not ready to call that American
League West race Y. There is still I think a
lot of baseball we played out there, and and yes,
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I do acknowledge that the Astros and they seem to
have this muscle memory when it comes to this time
of year. But there's still a lot of ball to
be played and the Mariners pitching remains elite.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You can find him on Twitter at John Morosi carrot Cake.
That is at John Morosi carrot Cake, John Paul Morosi,
MLB Network Insider Extraordinaire. Check him out on Stearnsy and
the Pope should be a very good show tomorrow, very
happy show. With the Mets up eight nothing against the Diamondbacks,
Starnsy should be in a good mood for you, Pope,
So I'll have a great show tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
He will be yes. And on Saturday evening in ann Arbor,
the University of Michigan will prevail forty nine to ten
over the Fresno State Bulldogs. I've got I'm got forty
nine to ten. Let's see, I'm not even sure what
the spread is, but that was just what came to
my mind. Right then, there you.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Go, Okay, I thought you were going to say, Michigan
wins twenty seven, twenty four, twenty seven to third.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
That would be pretty good again, Oh no, that would
be an amazing showing by the Fresido State Bulldogs. I
the Mountain West. I'm told the Mountain West is up
this year, so we'll see how they're looking.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Pope. Thanks a bunch. As always, buddy, we'll talk to
you next week. We'll talk to you, Jpaire.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
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time traveler early in the show, we talked about some quarterbacks.
Last hour, who's around, who's staying, who's going? How about
(26:57):
some more quarterbacks, Mike car because you can't get enough.
Quarterback loves the quarterback position. It makes the world go round.
I can't get about it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I mean, look, we can go deeper into depth charts,
but that's usually just city by city. So you know,
we could do bits off Mike, you know, just record
them for Bosterity to talk about. I don't know, maybe
you know the Vikings and Sam Darnold and what's behind
him and all that stuff, but we could save that
for another time.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Number one, Let's get to this all right.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
We talked about Bailey Zappi and Tommy DeVito, the guys
you're just obsessed with. But oh look listen, I love
Bailey Zappy because he's the perfect backup quarterback. He's just
like Gardner Minshew. You want your backup quarterback, you want
to draw it up on a lab. These are guys,
and Bailey z Appy gets let go today while the
Giants keep Tommy DeVito. You want a guy who's going
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to come off the bench and bring energy that the
players are going to enjoy playing around, that's going to
be able to have some kind of short term success.
All right, that's what you want. That's the perfect situation
for a backup quarter back. That's Gardner Minshew, who unfortunately
is starting, which tells you where the raiders are. Uh,
And that's Bailey's happy. And look that the Patriots couldn'tkeep
him around because he's the reminder of the era before
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and you're trying to start. And I completely get it.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He's not very good. I understand that. But you know
in spurts, he's not bad. That's what you're arguing. That's
why you're keeping Jacoby Brissett around. Come on, when's the
last time he flashed? Come on, man, no, no.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
But he but he's always put out as the guy
that can can run the ship for a couple of weeks.
He's not gonna make any big mistakes. Blah blah blah.
We do this every year with him. I do not
say blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
So the Cleveland Browns are keeping not one, not two,
not three, but four quarterbacks. They had decided that they
were going to try to take phone calls on a
couple of their backups, whether it was dtr or Jameis
Winston or Brian Seiche.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But they had lots of situations.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
They're going to keep four guys. Yeah, on their fifty
three man Ross, Well, you can't get rid of Winston.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
He gives better speeches than anybody. He does.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But look, here's the thing is that supposedly it's I
feel like the Brown's like, listen, someone call us for
any one of these guys. We're okay with trading anyone
like they were okay with taking phone calls on Tyler Huntley,
which I get because every time the guy has had
a chance to flash, he's not been good. Jameis Winston
is a guy that has done it before. He's a
guy that, after rust, has played pretty well when he
played for New Orleans before he got hurt. Right, I
(29:28):
told you Jameis Winston's gonna wind up starting the majority
of the season for the Browns because Deshaun went Deshaun
Watson stink.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, But let's lear is a glass for Jameis Winston.
He's in year thirteen of the year of the league,
right here. Let's go twenty twelve, right or is he
twenty fourteen? Either way, he's a decade plus.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He's been Oh he's been around, man, he's been around.
But like I want to tell the Browns gotty fifteen.
I aged him too much in a couple of minutes.
He's gonna be twenty eighteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Now he's gonna be a rookie.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Was first I was.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I was trying to picture the rookie card moving them along.
I'm moving them along. Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
The brown should keep all four of these guys because
at some point this season they're gonna have to play
them for one reason. There's only one reason why these
guys are gonna have to play, my Carmen, there's only
one reason, one reason, one reason why.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Everybody like, no, no, no, no, just what, there's only one.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
What's the reason why, only one reason them are gonna
be necessary?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You gotta you gotta keep these You gotta keep these guys. You, yes, yes,
there's a reason why. Why Because Deshaun Watson stinks.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Oh that's okay, Because.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I'm gonna say, everybody's extolling the virtues of what Stefanski's
got built there and the roster all around.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Look, the Browns have almost been quarterback proof. It's like, listen,
we could throw almost anybody up here and win. I mean,
outside of Watson, with a guy we gave two hundred
and fifty million dollars to we can throw almost anybody
up here and win. So it's a look Stefanski, He's
a phenomenal coach man to be able to win that way,
to win last year when you started four guys and
Joe Flat.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Okay, I guess this year I retired.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Nope, I'm gonna be the toast of the NFL for
the December month of December one more time.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Flat goes the new Vinny Testa Verdi as he's still
in a league somewhere.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
He's a backup. I know. I bet you if any
Testa Verdi is still in the league. He's sixty seven
years old. He's still in the league. I bet you.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
All I could say is this Colts and veteran quarterback
Joe Flacco. I'd agree to a one year deal worth
guess what, up to eight point seven million dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Let's go well, because they know well with Anthony Richardson,
we have no idea he's probably gonna have to play.
But forget about everything because I Deshaun Watson argument with
the massage and everything that's that's gone now and he's
in the league and everybody has their thoughts and I
can't believe he's back in the leak. I can't believe
they let him, and I can't believe the Browns gave
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him two hundred and fifty million dollars. Right, But this
is where you can't get around anything else. They want
to get out of this deal. If they could get
out of Deshaun Watson today, they would get out of it.
Because this is someone who has played a grand total
of twelve football games in the last four years. Trey
Lance may have played more football in the last four
(32:09):
years than Deshaun Watson. Right, you had the twenty twenty season,
which was the COVID year, that he was out for
all of twenty twenty one, then he played a handful
of games after suspension in twenty two, then he got.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Hurt last year.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
He has played twelve football games in the last four years,
and he's not been great. When he has played, he
has been well below average. His quarterback rating is awful.
He's got fourteen touchdowns and nine picks. He's not gotten
it done. It's completion percentage is low. You're good now,
you gotta be up near seventy percent. He's down near
sixty percent. He's not been good.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
He is not good.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Suddenly he's gonna get good after the last time he
was good was four years ago. Forget about the why,
forget about the why.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
This is about. Do you really think.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
A guy who was good four years ago is suddenly
gonna go oh now he's got it.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Now he's got it. No, it's not happening.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's over for Deshaun Watson and the Browns have to
realize that it's just all this sunk money and we
were stupid for giving them two hundred and fifty million dollars.
We couldn't help it because we needed a quarterback. We
had to do it. We had to do it.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Nothing else out there, so we had to do it.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
And now look where you are. You are absolutely stuck.
And to come off that, I get that he's only
twenty eight years old, but man, four years and twelve games,
how do you come back from that? How do you
suddenly say, Okay, now I'm good, Now I'm great. Nobody
does tell me anybody that's had that kind of layoff
from any sport and come back and yep, you're dominant
even to be a top half of the NFL quarterback
(33:36):
I think, which is all I think You're asking that
Deshaun Watson at this point, dude, can you just be
a top half of the NFL quarterback? Can he be
a top sixteen quarterback? You can't even be that, and
so you are absolutely stuck. So, yeah, you're gonna need
these guys because you're gonna have to go to somebody
at some point to play games.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
They say, oh, we want to keep these guys.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, okay, yeah, you might lose somebody. But could you
potentially get Tyler Huntley to sign in the practice? Yeah,
you could potentially move around, but you're gonna need something, man.
You can't trade Jameis Winston. This is a guy that
could come off the bench and throw for three hundred
yards a game, because we've.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Seen him do it before.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
All right, I know, I know that Thompson Robinson's got
a lot of great potential. Maybe you unlock him, maybe
he turns into somebody like I can't believe he's this good.
And we found something in the guy that nobody knew.
He could be the next Rock Party. But you're gonna
need guys, man, because Deshaun Watson can't do it. He
hasn't done it. He hasn't done it yet. He can't
stay healthy, and it's not gonna happen after four years,
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and you're gonna continue to get to a point where
when do we ride out this? Cause when do we
do it? And I'll tell you this is gonna be
the last year, because after this year, the Browns is
gonna have to say, you know what, it's just not happening.
We need to go get another quarterback. We need to
get somebody in the draft, We need something, some kind
of pipeline, and that very slowly, we are moving away
from Deshaun Watson, whether it's next year Watson comes in
(34:49):
and we passed to battle it out with a guy
we have, but they have to they have to really
gonna say we got to just move on from him.
And maybe it's bite the bullet and and and we
have to eat all the money we're gonna pay him.
But you're going out absolutely nowhere. And and what sucks
is that this is a team that's actually pretty good,
all right. If you had a good quarterback man, you'd
be tough to root for, tough to reca't root for,
(35:10):
tough to root for Deshaun Watson because.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That part of it's still there. But on the football
field man.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
This team is really good, Like this could be the
we could look back at this eraror and say, wow,
the era of never was.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
That's the Browns this year.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
They thought they had the quarterback situation settled, and they
had a great defense, They had a really good running game,
they had enough weapons at wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
And it just didn't happen for him.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Well, that's when we look at this squad and there
are great expectations on them in a in a division
that so many want to write off the Ravens just
I think, just because like they won't get over. I'm
tired of them. Brown's eight and a half wins actually
a little lower than I anticipated. I thought it had
started higher, and maybe it had. But that's where it
(35:51):
sits right now. Ravens at ten and a half, and
then the Bengals. Joe Burrow stays upright, Jamar Chase is
back at practice, whatever all that means in terms of
getting ready, right they say he'll be ready for week one.
But the offense and a good roster overall, and then
Pittsburgh's always good enough just to screw things up. So
we got all of that together, you know, the cannibalism
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within the division.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And then they get to start right away.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
They have an opening date against the Dallas Cowboys, so
right off the jump you get a test both these squads.
We'll try to figure out what the hell they are.
Then they're at Jacksonville. Then they've got the Giants and
the Raiders. So in theory, if he plays adequate football,
they could be three and one or four and zher.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
How about that with the roster that's assembled then them
Jerry Jones would not be happy about that if that happened.
He will that was where I was giving him the loss.
Who knows.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And then they're at Washington, at Philadelphia and go on
down the line. But it is a roster that is
pretty loaded. They've got some injuries in the secondary that
they need to work through coming out of camp, certainly
to monitor as they go. Nick Chubb is gonna start
on the pup list, but you've got Jerome Ford, who
acquitted himself quite nicely last year. So a guy for
(37:09):
fantasy purposes, and they'll push him up the ranks a
little bit at least knowing you're gonna get a month
where he's going to be the lead back for this offense.
But for Deshaun Watson. I have no idea what the
ceiling is at this point. Right, seven touchdowns, four picks
last year, a couple of games where we looked better.
(37:30):
You use the word good ninety seven times, so I
can't use the word good now.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I meant, well, what's his ceiling? Twenty touchdowns? Is throwing
for twenty touchdowns? I think that's probably his ceiling is
twenty touchdowns?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
But is that enough to get you over with that defense?
See how good is?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
You know, is Jerome Ford really that good? Because you
don't know what you're gonna get from Nick Chubb coming
back from this really bad injury, getting near thirty. You
probably need more than that. You know, you probably need
more than that. You need someone that's gonna be a
weekly threat. And we've seen Winston do it. So I'm like, Okay,
he's gonna be the he's gonna be the first guy
to get a chance.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
But you're talking about trading a guy like, dude, what
do you utility? You're gonna you know, you're gonna need
to replace to show them. But the Browns know this,
they know they're gonna need to replace him at some point.
I mean, you're naive. If you're going to this this
year thinking oh, no, this is the year. No, he's healthy,
everything good.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Would you believe twenty touchdowns would would have ranked you
in the at the midpoint of NFL quarterbacks a year ago. Yeah,
I mean d Know Smith and Justin Herbert both through
twenty touchdown pass. I mean that that's got captain and
eight games played eight games. Joe Burrow had fifteen in
(38:45):
the ten that he played. But anyway, the point being
that if you get adequate production. This goes back to
the question we were asking about New England, same thing
we asked about Pittsburgh defense. Is gonna be able to
get us a good junk of the way? Can I
coax twenty one point some offense out of my squad?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Wow, that's it's gonna be tough. Man, keep these quarterbacks.
I'd get a couple more.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I don't know, Maybe I just want to You want
to go get Bailey Zappi while you're at it? Yeah,
bring Batty Heart and all of these guys. Everybody fights, and.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
The Browns are dressing six quarterbacks for the day. Could
you the Browns petition in the NFL to allow you
to to be able to put in as many quarterbacks
as you want to in every game we got, we
got six guys ready to go, gonna need it, telling you,
man gonna need it, next man up, gonna need it.
You are absolutely gonna need it.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Well, sixty six guys started games a year ago was
like sixty two years ago. So yeah, you know you're
gonna you're gonna run.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Through them telling you and that's it. You're at some
point and it's gonna be early because he just can't
do it.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Greetings, then welcome inside to what is so far a
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best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
You just took it to nothing lead, come on to
nothing lead.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But the Braves are winning four to three and the
Padres are winning six to five. So I mean it's
so far it's acceptable. We'll see how it plays out
at that time. So the ways to go here man, positivity, Man,
I'm telling that's why.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Heyday, I am. Okay, here's better. Okay, welcome in sid Well.
We gotta do it again. We do it again, do it,
do it again, start again, start again, start again. Here's
how we do it. Here's how we do it. Here's
let's start again. Start again. Here we go. Mary. When
I say that, I mean start the music again. That
means start the music, start the music that what do
you mean you can't do that?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You are you or you're not in charge of running
the music and the board and everything else.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He told you to mess up the first time.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It was a perfectly acceptable open until Harmon pointed something
out and I said, okay, I want to be more accurate.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Okay, so so so conversation. So she probably was.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, I was on my phone with my friend, and
you know, I really thought you guys were taking the
show now, So I'm sorry. I said, let's give me
Narco again, give me Nark again. We'll we'll start again,
the right way.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
To start, the right wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, wait.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Wait, I gotta put my phone down and tell you, hey, Debbie,
text you later. Guys are being real idiots here on
the show, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I don't even have a friend name with Okay, okay, Janie,
I don't have I don't know how that would be distress.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I have my my friend Diana.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Dianna is the one you're texting.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, I'm not texting anyone.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Actually, Oh okay, could you stopped to put the phone o?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No? No, actually mej was you know, give me a
fib tell me goodbye.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Oh okay, okay, saying okay, you have to throw him
under the buck on the radio and the truth. Okay, okay, okay, Yeah,
I hit me Narco again.
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Speaker 3 (02:52):
Is that bad? Cautiously optimimist? Cautiously optimistic? That man?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I call it pretty good. White Sox got their games suspended. Yeah,
it's like it's this guy is about to open up
over pearl jam there at regular Field.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's not looking good.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It almost looks like a scene straight out of the
original Ghostbusters over the stadium right now. So I think
we've got some chaos getting ready to ensue.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And look before we get to football.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Just you know, you know, this is what's gonna really,
this is gonna grind by gears. If you wind up
at the end of the season not having the worst
record of all time. So the sixty two Mets stay
in the record books because you have games suspended that
never get mail.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
There's no real reason to make this up.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And don't you feel bad for the White Sox that
they're so bad all and suddenly you're only playing one hundred.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And fifty five games. No, we don't need those, we
don't need those other seven. It's absolutely fine. Don't worry
about it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Winning percentages okay, that they won't go down as the
worst team of all time.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Now I can see that happening. Baseball doing you at solid.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You would expect a lot of those games April and
into May, because you still get snow and really torrential downpours.
You get into the and a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
More of that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Usually this is about the time of year where it's
really nice to go to Chicago. Temperatures come down a
little bit, still gonna be a little bit muggy, but
you can go take a walk along the lake and
then you've got some of the greatest outdoor bars you're
gonna find across this great American landscape. And today the
sky has decided to open up maybe looking out for
Grady Sizemore and trying to keep him from aging too
(04:24):
terribly rapidly.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Every game you play, every game, every Jason game, we
have as many blown saves as we do wins thirty
one and thirty one.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Baby, let's go. I like that. Yeah, yeah, I just
want to say that.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
If you were a better get this. I saw this
stat earlier, If you were a betting man, and we've
talked about this a bunch, we're gonna peel it back
just a little bit after the fifth inning, you would
be down two units for the year. That's how competitive
they are real and they get out to early. Wouldn't
literally only be down despite the future misery what the
(05:05):
season that has been. You would be down two whole units.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So if games were only five innings, you might be
you might be in the playoff of five hundred.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Sure, how about that?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So look love Big Baseball Night. Obviously, as were getting closed,
you know a lot of races are affected. But obviously
look today being cut down day in the National Football League,
and we all saw some names getting let go. That
are all names we've watched play the last few years.
Whether it's Bailey Zappi or Kadarius Tony, big names out there,
Desmond Ritter gets let go.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But I always come back.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
To this, right, and I think about this, like when
I saw today James Robinson getting cut, Alan Robinson getting cut,
Miles Gaskin getting cut, and to an extent, seeing a
couple other players get cut. To Kadarius Tony a little bit.
I always say, I always think about these guys and
I go, you know, if I had a machine, okay,
(06:01):
finding time machine, this is of all the things you
would do, I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I would do this.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I would bet on this. I've got here's here's here's
the definitive thing I would do if I had a
time machine and it was easy for me to go
back to any time I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Right, it was easy to this. This is what I
would do. Just bop around the time. Get it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I would go back to right after these guys had
their big rookiear second year seasons. Right, I would go
right after t when James Robinson had his been I
would get him on my team for their rookie year,
their big year. Because James Robinson had a phenomenal rookie year,
ran for a thousand yards. We all thought he was
gonna be great. Alan Robinson had that huge twenty sixteen season.
(06:36):
All my Allan Robbins is gonna be awesome. Miles Gaskin
had that one year at the Dolphins where you thought, oh,
he's gonna be the number one running back.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
At how great it is to have him.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I would go back in time and I would get
all of them on my team for that year, and
I would trade them at the end of the year,
and everybody else would say to me, Oh my god,
you're insane. What are you doing your trans go go ah.
I got a feel him. I think this is gonna
be it. I think it's the best we're gonna see. Oh,
you're crazy, y'all. Make that trade for all?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Who do you want? Who do you want? I'll take uh. Oh,
I don't know. Uh you know, you know what? Give me?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Uh you know what? Give me?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Give me this Brady kid that the Patriots drafted out
of the out of Michigan to the sick card. Yeah no,
but I would go get people who are so incredibly unherolded.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's what you want, Yeah, that's what I want. That's
what I want.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh, all right, then and all of a sudden, guys
that go from undrafted to making Pro Bowls and everything,
or at least being great fantasy players. That's what I
would do. And I would have everybody say, you're crazy,
You're crazy. I just stole James Robbinson for you. I
just stole Miles Gaskt from you. Yeah, and I got
a first round pick or a second rounder.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I got this.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And I would just wait and let the season play out,
and just so I could say at the end, told you,
told you, let's make another trade, told you, told you?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, I would really do these guys well.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Obviously it's one of the worst forty eight hour periods
that we see as the cut down to fifty three happens,
and then we start seeing just to shovel some guys
will end up what the practice squads are seventeen large
so guys. Some guys will get another chance and hang
on for another run. Others will get into whatever the
(08:07):
next part of their lives are either media opportunities, perhaps
back towards their alma maters, to go back to school,
or whatever the case may be, the next next career.
But yeah, just a ton of names and like, all right,
that guy was with number three wide receiver on the
number of my fantasy squad. I'm looking at you, Tim
Patrick or kJ Hambler, another guy that was expected to
(08:29):
take some step forward, and now we're watching the roster shuffle. Hell,
that was one of the things out of Hard Knocks.
You started to love all those backup quarterbacks from the
Bears because you got to meet their families. So they
played on your emotions. And now they're gone, as the
Bears only carry two going forward. Yeah, so we'll see
what happens there, whether Ripping finds his way or the
(08:52):
everybody's favorite read finds himself another job. I don't know,
but you know they did a good job of again
keeping hard nooring and basically saying you're never going through
these hallways again.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
We fulfilled our commitment.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now you take us out of that tumbler for future iterations.
But I like, I like your time machine kind of thing.
If you do time in a bottle, this is what
I do with it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, I mean, like all the other I would go
back and I would buy stock here and I would
do this, and I'd be rich.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'd be a millik.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well, if I could go back in time, I got
time to do all that stuff. I would definitely spend
a good bunch of time going let me go back
James Robinson. I don't know if I could let James
Robinson go.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Man, the guy ran for it, because remember, like man
was doing his thing and it was years in a
matter of seconds that he was experienced.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Ah could I could? I could? I could? I trade?
I don't know, Man, he's really good. You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You know what, listen, I'll you know what. Who'd you
get in the first round of the d you know what?
Give me Give me that new kid, Tyreek Hill, give
me him. I I don't know if he's gonna be
any good.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
He's a rookie. Who knows. I'll give you, James, I'll
give you a thousand yard rugger. You give me Tyreek Hill?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
What a deal? I stole him from you? Smith? Yeah
you suck Smith? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And then I would wait until the end of the year,
would just go I did it. I told you I
would so do that. I mean, I go back the
other stuff too. Sure, I would really go back to
the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
You'd go and find somebody else being more amenable to
maybe giving them a hat.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yes back when you were the kid. Sure, you gotta
listen to the whole show.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
It's a really rich, marvel cinematic universe kind of timeline
that we're traversing right now. But the other hard part
of today, Jason, was all the number of the players
that just litany of players that ended up going to
the injured reserve, not just the pup list, because most
of those guys we kind of expected, but some that
(10:40):
were all right, pup list, maybe we'll see what happens. No,
flat out ir Aj Dillon or Elijah Mitchell kind of
out of the blue. I just drafted him in a
guillotine league. Guess what happened two guys later or even
the next guy after me. It was like Jordan Mason,
and then twenty four hours later, it's no longer just
(11:00):
a hamstring injury. It's a season ending hamstring injury. So
another hard part of the continuum here, just forty eight
hours of the reality shock. Even though we're getting all
the ticker tape parades and fantasy drafts. We got guys
showing up to their drafts and limos and all these
other videos making their way around, but some harsh reality
(11:22):
for a number of NFL players.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, I mean, you see some of these guys who
were just such lynch pins a couple of years ago
and now out there looking for work.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
We knew Tim Patrick was going to get let go
earlier in the he was gonna get trained, all right,
Now the Lions are signing Tim Patrick. So okay, Look,
it was a.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Really big day with movement and guys and guys going
moving from one place to another. But man, I always
think back to if I could do stuff like that,
that would be that. That would be the most awesome thing.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
You're missing the point of the exercise, Soner, that would
be the No one would ever clean stuff up because
just think, just think, they would go.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
How is it this guy knows everything.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
He's the real fantasy football genius in this league because
he makes trades of guys who were fantastic.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Wait a minute, and then they suck. But doesn't he
always gets the unheralded guy.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
But does Bif Tanning exist in this universe? Is Back
to the Future been released? Does the Almanac exist?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, I'd have to go back before that and get
the almanacs, right you.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And you would be in Back to the Future. No,
that's the real guy.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I wouldn't be in a fantasy league with Bift. I
would avoid I would not be Fift tann and Celebrity League.
I would not be in THEE.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Now we have an all timeline to where it becomes
a John Wick kind of situation and you're hunting down Nift.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Tan, Dude, don't trade with Jason. Why because you think
you're getting the most unbelievable trade possible. Like, yes, man,
I'm telling you, dude, don't do it. Why don't do it?
Why because? Man, look a few years ago, Alan Robinson's
coming off this huge year with Blake Bortles, and he's unbelievable,
(12:57):
and you know, I don't know how good Lamar Jackson's
going to be.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
He's a rookie, doesn't get drafted really high.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So you know I traded him Amar Jackson and Robins.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Like, yeah, that's what I want to. Don don't trade
with Jason.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Now, eventually I'd have to stop because I'd or had
to join different leagues because people would say I can't,
don't dry.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
They just wouldn't do it. They'd say, whatever you wanted,
I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, but in this type of scenario, you can change
your identity and pop in.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
A different times. That is true.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I mean there's lots of ways this works out to
your advantage.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I could easily do that. Who's that guy? Trade with him?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I don't know, man, Yeah, but then you got guys
that are around calling you the devil you show up
or the ghost.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I just call you the ghost.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You pop in and win a Fantasy Leagues and whatever
happened to that guy, he came, collected his winnings and
he was never seen again.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
This guy wants to trade me Cadarius Tony for Julian Edelman.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I'll do that one, sure, you know. I mean that's
kind of fun stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Man, look at you fun creating chaos across many timelines.
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The Mets leave, the Diamondbacks ate nothing in the top
of the sixth and.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
That it's becoming a glorious Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Well it's not that glorious because the Padres already won,
the Braves already know what.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah, can I tell you what I'd what I'd give
I mean, I'd give up my carrot cake look for
a minute or two to get a win once in
a while.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Oh dat to nothing? Eh? You know, it's a mediocre Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Like you joining us down the hotline for all things
Major League Baseball MLB Network insider extraordinaire John Paul Morosi.
You can follow him on Twitter at John Morosi. See
I'm on MLB Network. Read him all the views, John Paul,
what's happening, buddy?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (16:21):
I am doing great? I have arrived with very strong
takes this evening on dessert food.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Let's go, okay, very good?
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Where do you stand on carrot cake.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Carrot cake is outstanding. I am a huge fan of
carrot cake. It is actually one of the more popular
cakes in our family for birthday. So we are doing
we are definitely pro carrot cake in this family.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Well, let me tell you this. Let's for the rest
of the interview.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Now pretend that you're a major league batter and I'm
Angel Hernandez.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
You're out, You're gone, gone from the show. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
I know I walked through that. I just I heard
from I just I caught a little glimpse of the
previous segment. I just wanted to share that I appreciate
your thoughts though.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm standing up for carrot cake. Hi, John Paul Morosi
for carrot cake. Boy, you know what I love around
the holidays around my house, just you and the sweater
and all your kids are playing. Your wife is waving
to the camera. I just love gam here for carrot cake.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
That would be a great commercial, although it would it
would require my kids to be aware of TV. That is,
that is not necessarily what they're watching on a daily basis,
so sports, those sorts of things are not really that'd
be probably a popular commercial for holiday, you know, football
games during the commercial breaks. We're not really a football
(17:49):
watching family outside of when I am able to focus
on why the Lions will win a given game twenty
seven to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
All right, well, great call back to the last year.
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Are your kids aware of the seasons that Otani and
Aaron Judge are having? Like, are they aware that in
there whee allows and stuff they ask you about?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Is it not like?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
What is it? Let's put it this way. It should
be because every sentient human in our country should be
tuned into this.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It is.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
It's remarkable what's happening here. This season, thanks to the
two of them, is already one of the best we've
ever seen in the history of the sport. And when
you consider what Judge is doing, we thought that sixty
two once was going to be almost impossible, and now
he's on pace to do it twice in a span
(18:43):
of three years. And with Otani, we're running out of
words here. He's comfortably on tasee for forty five forty five,
which we've never seen, and he's got a legitimate shot
at fifty fifty, which we've really never seen. So it
is it's just remarkable. Well, we are I think blessed
as baseball fans to be watching what they're doing right now.
(19:04):
And certainly the irony though, is that in the American League.
I certainly think that Judge is a favorite for the
for the MVP, but bodywoo, Junior's got a case too,
and what he's been doing for the Royals. So it's
a It's a really interesting time right now in the sport,
and I feel very very grateful to watch it up close.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Fun series going on. Now, We've got the Orioles in
town to face said Dodgers and show hey Otani Freddie
Freeman out with the finger injury. But is this potential
what we see towards the end of October here JP,
Can the Orioles pitching survive and get through?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I tell you what we have still, I'm operating in
this space right now where I have. I do not
recall a time where more of the best teams in
baseball seem to have significant flaws that put their entire
October journey into question. With the Dodgers, if you're gonna
tell me that Yamamoto comes back healthy and that Glass
(20:07):
now comes back healthy, then sure then I could see
the Dodgers playing in the last game of the season.
If they do not, If the answer to both those
questions is no, with both glass Now and Yamamoto, I'm
not sure they'll make it out of the first round.
I mean, it's that the gap between who they will
(20:28):
be if those two injury questions are not answered in
the affirmative, and the gap between that low point and
who they could be on the high point is immense
for the Dodgers, and as you point out, there are
certainly still some lineup concerns or some lineup related injury
concerns too, So I think actually, despite the current form
(20:51):
of both teams, I feel a little more sure of
who the Orioles are than who the Dodgers are, even
though obviously with the case the O's, they thought they
had made a nice upgrade at the trade deadline to
their rotation, and then of course they ended up having
to option them down to the minor league, so there's
I think there certainly are still some concerns there with
(21:13):
Rogers just being sent out with a seven point one
one ERA, so you're right there are some legitimate rotation
worries with Baltimore, But I tend to think that I
know a little bit more about who they are as
a team than I do about the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
All right, now, let me ask you this on a
scale of one to ten. If one is it's not happening,
it's fodder, it's fun to talk about, And ten is,
oh no, this is absolutely happening. Sho Hao Tani the
first fifty to fifty player in the history of Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Where would you put it on that list? From one
to ten, I.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Think it's at a seven right now? Why not? And
the thing is what helps him is that he probably
will get pitch two and see more pitches to hit
than Judge will in his pursuit of history. That is
(22:10):
one significant difference. It's based on the lineup dynamics around
the two players. And for Otani to be stealing the
number of bases that he is, you obviously have to
credit the baseball acumen of the guy's right after him,
because they're taking the right pitches, they're allowing him to
steal bases. Dave Roberts is keeping the green light on
(22:32):
when honestly, in a lot of ways, it'd be the
easy decision to maybe pull back a little bit. This
is showing Otani you've invested seven one hundred million dollars
in this player, do you really want them tumbling into
second base all these times on solo basis? And I
give the Dodgers credit for letting him be himself. That
(22:55):
to me is one of the more remarkable things that
we have seen to this point, is that he's able
to basically run free. So I'm I'm not gonna put
any limitations on showy Otani. Everybody that thought he might
stop at five hundred million dollars, well, we were sadly mistaken.
He overshot that like two hundred million, so you underestimate
Showe at our own peril.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
To be fair, they're only paying him two million now,
so they can run him all over the place.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
That's right, of course.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yes, he's a parking right now, John Paul, come on, man,
you gotta see this like.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
A rock party running around. You're on a rookie deal
and he's the biggest park in all the notes right now.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Right The big money comes in around twenty sixty five
something like that, So I think we're we're okay.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
All the fun that comes there, all right, Houston, Now
eight games over five hundred, here they are once again
as we get into September, JP they've taken the show's team,
the Seattle Mariners, and kick them to decide for the
moment and great distance from everybody else in the division.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
How dangerous are they?
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Well, they are dangerous, But I tell you what, the
Mayor haven't gone away yet either. And I know the
Mariners is in typical form for them. They're now locked
in a very low scoring game against the Rays, just
trying to get that offense going in Seattle for new
manager Dan Wilson. But I look at Houston and I
look at their lineup. They signed Jason Hayward today for
(24:20):
a reason, which is they've got some offensive concerns. First
base has been a series of question marks ever since
a bray You struggled so much and was released. They
may actually have Bregman playing a little bit of first
base now because of his elbow issue. So I think
for a lot of different reasons right now, the Astros
are not a perfect team. They need to rest Altuve
(24:43):
a bit more than they ever have before. And the Mariners,
partially because of the new manager, partially because you just
cannot hit that poorly for that long. They're gonna bounce
back offensively, So I'm not ready to call that American
League West race Y. There is still I think a
lot of baseball we played out there, and and yes,
(25:03):
I do acknowledge that the Astros and they seem to
have this muscle memory when it comes to this time
of year. But there's still a lot of ball to
be played and the Mariners pitching remains elite.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You can find him on Twitter at John Morosi carrot Cake.
That is at John Morosi carrot Cake, John Paul Morosi,
MLB Network Insider Extraordinaire. Check him out on Stearnsy and
the Pope should be a very good show tomorrow, very
happy show. With the Mets up eight nothing against the Diamondbacks,
Starnsy should be in a good mood for you, Pope,
So I'll have a great show tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
He will be yes. And on Saturday evening in ann Arbor,
the University of Michigan will prevail forty nine to ten
over the Fresno State Bulldogs. I've got I'm got forty
nine to ten. Let's see, I'm not even sure what
the spread is, but that was just what came to
my mind. Right then, there you.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Go, Okay, I thought you were going to say, Michigan
wins twenty seven, twenty four, twenty seven to third.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
That would be pretty good again, Oh no, that would
be an amazing showing by the Fresido State Bulldogs. I
the Mountain West. I'm told the Mountain West is up
this year, so we'll see how they're looking.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Pope. Thanks a bunch. As always, buddy, we'll talk to
you next week. We'll talk to you, Jpaire.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
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time traveler early in the show, we talked about some quarterbacks.
Last hour, who's around, who's staying, who's going? How about
(26:57):
some more quarterbacks, Mike car because you can't get enough.
Quarterback loves the quarterback position. It makes the world go round.
I can't get about it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I mean, look, we can go deeper into depth charts,
but that's usually just city by city. So you know,
we could do bits off Mike, you know, just record
them for Bosterity to talk about. I don't know, maybe
you know the Vikings and Sam Darnold and what's behind
him and all that stuff, but we could save that
for another time.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Number one, Let's get to this all right.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
We talked about Bailey Zappi and Tommy DeVito, the guys
you're just obsessed with. But oh look listen, I love
Bailey Zappy because he's the perfect backup quarterback. He's just
like Gardner Minshew. You want your backup quarterback, you want
to draw it up on a lab. These are guys,
and Bailey z Appy gets let go today while the
Giants keep Tommy DeVito. You want a guy who's going
(27:49):
to come off the bench and bring energy that the
players are going to enjoy playing around, that's going to
be able to have some kind of short term success.
All right, that's what you want. That's the perfect situation
for a backup quarter back. That's Gardner Minshew, who unfortunately
is starting, which tells you where the raiders are. Uh,
And that's Bailey's happy. And look that the Patriots couldn'tkeep
him around because he's the reminder of the era before
(28:10):
and you're trying to start. And I completely get it.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He's not very good. I understand that. But you know
in spurts, he's not bad. That's what you're arguing. That's
why you're keeping Jacoby Brissett around. Come on, when's the
last time he flashed? Come on, man, no, no.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
But he but he's always put out as the guy
that can can run the ship for a couple of weeks.
He's not gonna make any big mistakes. Blah blah blah.
We do this every year with him. I do not
say blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
So the Cleveland Browns are keeping not one, not two,
not three, but four quarterbacks. They had decided that they
were going to try to take phone calls on a
couple of their backups, whether it was dtr or Jameis
Winston or Brian Seiche.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But they had lots of situations.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
They're going to keep four guys. Yeah, on their fifty
three man Ross, Well, you can't get rid of Winston.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
He gives better speeches than anybody. He does.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But look, here's the thing is that supposedly it's I
feel like the Brown's like, listen, someone call us for
any one of these guys. We're okay with trading anyone
like they were okay with taking phone calls on Tyler Huntley,
which I get because every time the guy has had
a chance to flash, he's not been good. Jameis Winston
is a guy that has done it before. He's a
guy that, after rust, has played pretty well when he
played for New Orleans before he got hurt. Right, I
(29:28):
told you Jameis Winston's gonna wind up starting the majority
of the season for the Browns because Deshaun went Deshaun
Watson stink.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, But let's lear is a glass for Jameis Winston.
He's in year thirteen of the year of the league,
right here. Let's go twenty twelve, right or is he
twenty fourteen? Either way, he's a decade plus.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He's been Oh he's been around, man, he's been around.
But like I want to tell the Browns gotty fifteen.
I aged him too much in a couple of minutes.
He's gonna be twenty eighteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Now he's gonna be a rookie.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Was first I was.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I was trying to picture the rookie card moving them along.
I'm moving them along. Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
The brown should keep all four of these guys because
at some point this season they're gonna have to play
them for one reason. There's only one reason why these
guys are gonna have to play, my Carmen, there's only
one reason, one reason, one reason why.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Everybody like, no, no, no, no, just what, there's only one.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
What's the reason why, only one reason them are gonna
be necessary?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You gotta you gotta keep these You gotta keep these guys. You, yes, yes,
there's a reason why. Why Because Deshaun Watson stinks.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Oh that's okay, Because.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I'm gonna say, everybody's extolling the virtues of what Stefanski's
got built there and the roster all around.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Look, the Browns have almost been quarterback proof. It's like, listen,
we could throw almost anybody up here and win. I mean,
outside of Watson, with a guy we gave two hundred
and fifty million dollars to we can throw almost anybody
up here and win. So it's a look Stefanski, He's
a phenomenal coach man to be able to win that way,
to win last year when you started four guys and
Joe Flat.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Okay, I guess this year I retired.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Nope, I'm gonna be the toast of the NFL for
the December month of December one more time.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Flat goes the new Vinny Testa Verdi as he's still
in a league somewhere.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
He's a backup. I know. I bet you if any
Testa Verdi is still in the league. He's sixty seven
years old. He's still in the league. I bet you.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
All I could say is this Colts and veteran quarterback
Joe Flacco. I'd agree to a one year deal worth
guess what, up to eight point seven million dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Let's go well, because they know well with Anthony Richardson,
we have no idea he's probably gonna have to play.
But forget about everything because I Deshaun Watson argument with
the massage and everything that's that's gone now and he's
in the league and everybody has their thoughts and I
can't believe he's back in the leak. I can't believe
they let him, and I can't believe the Browns gave
(31:48):
him two hundred and fifty million dollars. Right, But this
is where you can't get around anything else. They want
to get out of this deal. If they could get
out of Deshaun Watson today, they would get out of it.
Because this is someone who has played a grand total
of twelve football games in the last four years. Trey
Lance may have played more football in the last four
(32:09):
years than Deshaun Watson. Right, you had the twenty twenty season,
which was the COVID year, that he was out for
all of twenty twenty one, then he played a handful
of games after suspension in twenty two, then he got.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Hurt last year.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
He has played twelve football games in the last four years,
and he's not been great. When he has played, he
has been well below average. His quarterback rating is awful.
He's got fourteen touchdowns and nine picks. He's not gotten
it done. It's completion percentage is low. You're good now,
you gotta be up near seventy percent. He's down near
sixty percent. He's not been good.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
He is not good.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Suddenly he's gonna get good after the last time he
was good was four years ago. Forget about the why,
forget about the why.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
This is about. Do you really think.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
A guy who was good four years ago is suddenly
gonna go oh now he's got it.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Now he's got it. No, it's not happening.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's over for Deshaun Watson and the Browns have to
realize that it's just all this sunk money and we
were stupid for giving them two hundred and fifty million dollars.
We couldn't help it because we needed a quarterback. We
had to do it. We had to do it.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Nothing else out there, so we had to do it.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
And now look where you are. You are absolutely stuck.
And to come off that, I get that he's only
twenty eight years old, but man, four years and twelve games,
how do you come back from that? How do you
suddenly say, Okay, now I'm good, Now I'm great. Nobody
does tell me anybody that's had that kind of layoff
from any sport and come back and yep, you're dominant
even to be a top half of the NFL quarterback
(33:36):
I think, which is all I think You're asking that
Deshaun Watson at this point, dude, can you just be
a top half of the NFL quarterback? Can he be
a top sixteen quarterback? You can't even be that, and
so you are absolutely stuck. So, yeah, you're gonna need
these guys because you're gonna have to go to somebody
at some point to play games.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
They say, oh, we want to keep these guys.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, okay, yeah, you might lose somebody. But could you
potentially get Tyler Huntley to sign in the practice? Yeah,
you could potentially move around, but you're gonna need something, man.
You can't trade Jameis Winston. This is a guy that
could come off the bench and throw for three hundred
yards a game, because we've.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Seen him do it before.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
All right, I know, I know that Thompson Robinson's got
a lot of great potential. Maybe you unlock him, maybe
he turns into somebody like I can't believe he's this good.
And we found something in the guy that nobody knew.
He could be the next Rock Party. But you're gonna
need guys, man, because Deshaun Watson can't do it. He
hasn't done it. He hasn't done it yet. He can't
stay healthy, and it's not gonna happen after four years,
(34:27):
and you're gonna continue to get to a point where
when do we ride out this? Cause when do we
do it? And I'll tell you this is gonna be
the last year, because after this year, the Browns is
gonna have to say, you know what, it's just not happening.
We need to go get another quarterback. We need to
get somebody in the draft, We need something, some kind
of pipeline, and that very slowly, we are moving away
from Deshaun Watson, whether it's next year Watson comes in
(34:49):
and we passed to battle it out with a guy
we have, but they have to they have to really
gonna say we got to just move on from him.
And maybe it's bite the bullet and and and we
have to eat all the money we're gonna pay him.
But you're going out absolutely nowhere. And and what sucks
is that this is a team that's actually pretty good,
all right. If you had a good quarterback man, you'd
be tough to root for, tough to reca't root for,
(35:10):
tough to root for Deshaun Watson because.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That part of it's still there. But on the football
field man.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
This team is really good, Like this could be the
we could look back at this eraror and say, wow,
the era of never was.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
That's the Browns this year.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
They thought they had the quarterback situation settled, and they
had a great defense, They had a really good running game,
they had enough weapons at wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
And it just didn't happen for him.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Well, that's when we look at this squad and there
are great expectations on them in a in a division
that so many want to write off the Ravens just
I think, just because like they won't get over. I'm
tired of them. Brown's eight and a half wins actually
a little lower than I anticipated. I thought it had
started higher, and maybe it had. But that's where it
(35:51):
sits right now. Ravens at ten and a half, and
then the Bengals. Joe Burrow stays upright, Jamar Chase is
back at practice, whatever all that means in terms of
getting ready, right they say he'll be ready for week one.
But the offense and a good roster overall, and then
Pittsburgh's always good enough just to screw things up. So
we got all of that together, you know, the cannibalism
(36:13):
within the division.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And then they get to start right away.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
They have an opening date against the Dallas Cowboys, so
right off the jump you get a test both these squads.
We'll try to figure out what the hell they are.
Then they're at Jacksonville. Then they've got the Giants and
the Raiders. So in theory, if he plays adequate football,
they could be three and one or four and zher.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
How about that with the roster that's assembled then them
Jerry Jones would not be happy about that if that happened.
He will that was where I was giving him the loss.
Who knows.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And then they're at Washington, at Philadelphia and go on
down the line. But it is a roster that is
pretty loaded. They've got some injuries in the secondary that
they need to work through coming out of camp, certainly
to monitor as they go. Nick Chubb is gonna start
on the pup list, but you've got Jerome Ford, who
acquitted himself quite nicely last year. So a guy for
(37:09):
fantasy purposes, and they'll push him up the ranks a
little bit at least knowing you're gonna get a month
where he's going to be the lead back for this offense.
But for Deshaun Watson. I have no idea what the
ceiling is at this point. Right, seven touchdowns, four picks
last year, a couple of games where we looked better.
(37:30):
You use the word good ninety seven times, so I
can't use the word good now.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I meant, well, what's his ceiling? Twenty touchdowns? Is throwing
for twenty touchdowns? I think that's probably his ceiling is
twenty touchdowns?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
But is that enough to get you over with that defense?
See how good is?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
You know, is Jerome Ford really that good? Because you
don't know what you're gonna get from Nick Chubb coming
back from this really bad injury, getting near thirty. You
probably need more than that. You know, you probably need
more than that. You need someone that's gonna be a
weekly threat. And we've seen Winston do it. So I'm like, Okay,
he's gonna be the he's gonna be the first guy
to get a chance.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
But you're talking about trading a guy like, dude, what
do you utility? You're gonna you know, you're gonna need
to replace to show them. But the Browns know this,
they know they're gonna need to replace him at some point.
I mean, you're naive. If you're going to this this
year thinking oh, no, this is the year. No, he's healthy,
everything good.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Would you believe twenty touchdowns would would have ranked you
in the at the midpoint of NFL quarterbacks a year ago. Yeah,
I mean d Know Smith and Justin Herbert both through
twenty touchdown pass. I mean that that's got captain and
eight games played eight games. Joe Burrow had fifteen in
(38:45):
the ten that he played. But anyway, the point being
that if you get adequate production. This goes back to
the question we were asking about New England, same thing
we asked about Pittsburgh defense. Is gonna be able to
get us a good junk of the way? Can I
coax twenty one point some offense out of my squad?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Wow, that's it's gonna be tough. Man, keep these quarterbacks.
I'd get a couple more.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I don't know, Maybe I just want to You want
to go get Bailey Zappi while you're at it? Yeah,
bring Batty Heart and all of these guys. Everybody fights, and.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
The Browns are dressing six quarterbacks for the day. Could
you the Browns petition in the NFL to allow you
to to be able to put in as many quarterbacks
as you want to in every game we got, we
got six guys ready to go, gonna need it, telling you,
man gonna need it, next man up, gonna need it.
You are absolutely gonna need it.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Well, sixty six guys started games a year ago was
like sixty two years ago. So yeah, you know you're
gonna you're gonna run.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Through them telling you and that's it. You're at some
point and it's gonna be early because he just can't
do it.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
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