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In Hour 4 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys react to Deion Sanders postgame comments + Todd Fuhrman joins the show to talk some great matchups around college football.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome inside final hour tonight the Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Yeah, college football began
in earnest tonight Colorado and in a crazy game that
the ending doesn't make sense, but we saw incredible performance.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah performance.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I mean, I'm telling you, man, this is like it
goes back to I feel just like I did last
year at this point Colorado in September owning the entire
storyline that involved anything football, NFL doesn't matter. Colorado was
everywhere on Sunday. You spent all Sunday talking about Colorado
and d on Saturday. With that, I mean, I feel
like we're right back there and they have a second

(01:10):
chance to capture what they gave away last year. Hey,
we won, some guys on now were four and eight.
I mean, I don't think so. Because if you start
the season by barely beating an FCS team at home, yeah,
I don't think it's gonna go that great for you.
That's why tonight kind of feels like a loss, even
though it was a win. But still they have the
moment and they won tonight. I will give them that.
Does that make you happy, Mike?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Not?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
You gave them that to make you happy?

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Big performances, offensive weaponry. If you're playing college fantasy football,
hopefully you had the number one and number two picks
and you were able to make some hay there or
obviously we start getting into the wagering market. We went
over the total, but they obviously did not cover the
ten and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
You know, but it started earlier.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
I was out walking the dog and you know, you
got enough signal, so I've got my YouTube TV up
and going, and you know what, I was watching the
State College of New Jersey as Rutgers rolls onto a
forty four to seven win.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
A lot of people like Rutgers this year. Man, A
lot of people Syracuse South, that's what we would call Rutgers.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
There you go Syracue South.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
And it was just fun watching some of the familiar names,
Cam Rising and others that that are back on the field.
The crazy ass ending to North Carolina and Minnesota as
the they actually set off the fireworks in Minnesota after
a missed field goal.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, you kind of like with that was the Charger
game a couple of years ago where they I think
it was Young Wayku missed the field goal at the
end of and they shot the cannon off because they
thought he made.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
It well, you know, drifting drift right hash mark kick
is up and oh no, it's got that tail that
comes off the left foot.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
And man, I gotta set that cannon off. Man, Come on, dude,
set that cannon up.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
See Brianna is having bad fantasy remembrances over that kick.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I see, I got the We talked about fantasy college football.
I actually did it one year and I think I
want and I'm going back aways I did a long
long time ago because it was like, yeah, I'll do
college fantasy football and I think my quarterback was Darryl
Bevil And if I'm remember it, I had Chant Bailey
as one of my wide receivers Georgia Like that was

(03:20):
my team. My team was pretty good. But then I realized, oh,
and like I was only five hundred, Like I have
some of the best players of college football. But this
is back in like the late nineties early two thousands,
when all those Mountain West games, all they did was
throw the football so they would.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Before the rest of the world caught up. When Joe
Tiller and company went nuts, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
The number one pick is always someone from Utah or
Boise State or BYU. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
well you had seven touchdowns. Wow, that beats the crap
out of my guy.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Wow, yeah, I just I go back in the time
machine and tell me all about it. In the Stone
Age Grandpa, at the advent of this whole innerwebs thing,
when I was at Yahoo and we were building out
the Perfect Beast, which is, you know, by far and away,
the best fantasy engine that you find. But we tried
to start putting together the college game and we actually

(04:07):
had the shell of it, and we were basically told,
in no uncertain terms, this never sees the light of day.
That's how litigious everything was back then. It's like, nope,
all right, we'll scrap it.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
How gred though it looks great, man, this looks so good. Here,
just just one problem. What do you mean it's just
one problem? We can't use it? What do you mean
we can't.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
The problem legalities of all of this no good for anybody.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
But what the hell of a night?

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Some big point totals, Jason, You got a Mets win,
the White Sox lose again in front of eight people,
and the Dodgers just beat the Orioles six to three.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
So we've got a big duy tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Get this, Get in his three hundred and forty four
dollars if you want to go see Fever and Sky
Part eighties.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh there we go. Uh now let's deal with Deonse.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
The biggest understand how you make a coaching mistake like this?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I really don't, because you got away with it.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
With a minute and a half left to go and
Colorado is up thirty one to twenty six, one time
out left for North Dakota State. You're kneeling on the football,
or if you're really I don't understand the two minute offense.
You run the football right, You run it and you
wind up winning the game. Right obviously after this, after
you snap the ball on third down, the game is

(05:25):
over Okay, the game is over. You do not need
to run another play. However, Colorado decided we're gonna throw
the football deep when all they had to I mean
it was kneeling on the football. This is miracle the
Meadowlands type stuff, just kneel on the football. But no.
Shadura Sanders tries to go deep downfield on one on
one coverage, the ball falls incomplete. They can't pick up

(05:47):
a first down. They can't kill enough of the clock,
so North Dakota State gets the ball back with about
thirty three seconds left and they throw a hail mary
that falls short five yards of the end zone. They
complete the hail mary on the final play, but the
receiver has tackled at the five well short of the
end zone. Looks like it was close, and Colorado escapes
with a win. And and Dion almost gave it to them,

(06:11):
and it's it's there's no reason to do it. And
there's no reason why you would throw the football there
unless you want to get Shador Sanders fifty more yards passing.
It's worth it to throw the game at risk if
we're gonna throw the ball, and and my son can
have over five hundred yards passing and another and five
touchdowns right that that's the only thing I can look at.
Here's Deon Sanders, who got the question about twenty minutes ago.

(06:33):
Why did you throw the ball on a first down
play when all you have to do is kneel on
the football and listen to the word salad? Dion Sanders
gives us, I hope you like word salad. Got some avocado,
We got some tomatoes, some peppercorn ranch dressing. We're gonna
throw some chicken in there as well. I gonna mix
it up. Maybe a little bit of I'll throw a
little bit of that garlic gross tod aoli in the middle, yeah, now,

(06:54):
or a little bit of chopped egg. Oh, what a
great word salad we have here. Here's Diona explaining why
they threw the football.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I mean, you got to understand, you gotta take what
people give you. You can't take what you want and it's
not there. I mean, what is it? What do you
throw it for? Four five yards? You think we upset?
Who upset?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
See?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
They ever run a game?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
The passing game look pretty.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Turn good today.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
So let's let's let's be appreciative and thankful that that
we we got one of the premier guys in college
footballs spending it. We're gonna run the ball. We're gonna
do that. We're gonna have a lot more ballance. Today
was just that type of day. You gotta take what
they give you.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
But in that situation like too and stuff, do you
want to run the clock down? I mean you won't.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
For no, no, you want first downs? Right if you
want to run a clock down. They got a five
man box. I mean they got five five down. Like
you gotta look out there and say, okay, I got
one on one right here. I haven't seen one on
one the whole game. So I gotta do what I
gotta do. The move these change, and that's what that is.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's just stupid. I'm sorry, that's just stupid. There's only
one problem with that. What's the problem, right, And you
didn't even have someone challenging him by saying, yeah, but
you didn't need you just needed to kneel on the
football and you would have won the game. The game
was over at that point. And you turn it back
into a game and Dion still won't own it, and
he still won't own yet. You know what, that's a mistake. Uh,

(08:14):
messed up the clogging. You don't need a first down.
Don't tell me you want first downs. I've watched a
football game. I know when it's when the game is
over and you're kneeling on the football, that's what you
want to do. You don't need a first down. But
he made it seem like they still needed a first down.
So he looks bad if he didn't know the situation.
But he looks doubly baggs and feels like I'm just
covering up this decision, like this isn't This is a
ridiculously stupid decision that he made to throw the football

(08:36):
and it almost cost him the game. And he can't
even say at the end, not that I expected him to,
but he can't even say, you know what, that's on me,
my fault and that's not going to happen again. Or
something else, something, just something where at least say, take
a little bit of ownership is said to give me
some some crazy ass explanation that doesn't make that you
don't even believe about a Oh you want first downs?
Wait what you don't need a first down? That was

(08:59):
a that's in the next question. But you don't need
a first down Dean deal. But instead, Hey, people are
afraid of me, and and if I put this out
there that I'm gonna challenge you in the press conference,
people are just gonna sit back and go. I like
my life to be full of no stress. I don't
want to get banned. I'm not going to challenge a
coach on a really bad decision that he made that
could have cost him the game. So you get something

(09:20):
like that where the question should have been, yeah, but Dan,
you didn't need a first down. You could have killed
the clock, So why'd you throw the football and you
almost lost the game? Like that's the question like that,
and but instead I don't know that you would have
answered it. He just said. I answered. I said, I
said what you wanted. I said, that's the best way
to get a first down. We couldn't get a first
down by running the football. Would have just blown it off.
So I would have liked him to take some kind
of responsibility, but obviously he wasn't. And clearly that was

(09:42):
the answer we all expected, like he blew it like
be a man, own it, own it as a coach
that hey, I made a mistake. Your players will like it,
because I'm sure the players are going, dude, man, can
you believe coach through that? But what were we thinking about?
What we think? I don't understand, man, what is that
going on? I don't I don't get it. I don't
get it. You know, because because the kids, you want
to know that that, hey, you know what's going on

(10:02):
in the game. Right. As much as they love you
and love playing for you, and hey, this is great,
we have our own us against the world thing going on.
They want to know that you're going to make the
right decisions. They're the one putting their bodies on the
line every week here, all right, Sandor Sanders is getting
clocked on every play. Even he's saying, Dad, I didn't
I didn't need another touchdown. Just let's get this game over.
But but he won't do that. He's not someone that

(10:25):
can take criticism. He won't admit mistakes. And that's kind
of what he is. This is this is not unexpected
to hear Dion try to explain that away the way
he did.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
No, but that's exactly what you're gonna get, right. It's positivity.
He addressed the crowd, and in his sideline interview, everything was,
you know, positivity, get the win, succeed, proceed had one
thing in the presser. He's like, we got the win.
I know some of you were were looking for the loss.
Not today, would not get that hell of the day.

(10:53):
Obviously paraphrasing, but in this case, the one on one
I understand. But you went for the downs. This wasn't
a ten yard moved those chains right, safe, secure, get
the ball out. This was a all right, take a
take a deep drop. Uh, and now we're gonna go
deep one on one and throw it potentially into harm's way.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Here it falls in complete. Uh, no harm, no file.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
But but certainly I expect the aggressiveness because I think
he also recognizes that's what it's gonna he's gonna need
against every other opponent for the rest of the year,
and he knows nobody's gonna follow up. Right, we needed
the first down, We wanted the first down. Well you didn't.
But again, are you are you gonna be the guy
that gets the next hook?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
You're out now, which.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
He he gave some some excuses to the ESPN booth
that really don't hold a lot of water. But I
can't tell you how to feel. That's the way it goes,
not to mention the whole thing with the uh, the
keeler and everything. How performative have people been in the
last week with that? Everybody, just get a hug and
go back into your corners and go cover what you
need to cover. H No, no great atrocity happened here.

(12:05):
You got a little bit of a spat with a reporter.
Plenty of other folks will step up and ask questions
along the way, uh, and they'll figure it out. But
in this Yeah, Dion gave us exactly what I would
have expected, Jason exactly what. No, we're aggressive. Uh, And
I'm surprised he didn't give you a yards per carry
average from what they weren't doing in the ground game.
I did find it funny though. In one of the

(12:26):
recaps is watching, you know highlights, they had his stats
for the day up Shador Sanders, and they still included
the fact that he was sacked fifty two times last year. Yeah,
what the hell's that got to do with today? Yeah,
that's a board that needs to get fixed.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Who is editing? Not a guy like you. You wouldn't
have let that get out there.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I A you know, I almost have expected Dion if
they asked you but Dan, you just needed to kneel
on the football. What happens? Then chadur kneels on the football.
What happens? I don't know. We went that's minus two
yards rushing, that's minus two yards.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Actually had seventeen on the day though.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
What happened? Twenty kneels again? The game's over. No, it's
another minus too. That's another minus two you're watching for Sid.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Now you gotta playing fantasy football. Losing yards on the
kneel downs. I like that.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
The only thing that makes I can't even say it
makes sense because it doesn't. But here's the only the
only thing where I could say this could turn out
to be, like if you had a pie chart on
how bad this was, Like this is the tiniest liver
you can't even see. You need an arrow pointing to
the sliver to say this is what it is. Is
that now other coaches are gonna see this and go, man,
I really have no idea what this guy is gonna

(13:33):
do at any possible time point. I don't know how
we're gonna prepare for this game because he could do
anything crazy and stupid like that at any possible time. Okay,
I will just do our best I don't know, man,
we're on our heels. We're playing defense on roller skates.
Because he could do crazy stuff, like I said, a
kneeling on the football, he could throw it deep. I
don't know how to prepare for them. That's the only
sliver right there on that timeline.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
Did your offensive coordinator talk to you at all about
potentially kneeling on first down? Did Schedure wave it off
because he saw the man coverage?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
How about that? There's your follow up?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Were you worried? Were you worried that Shador Sanders Heisman
odds were much lowered because Travis Hunters were cutting half
because of the game he had. Is that that? How
much of that go into your decision?

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Boy, we really should be in these press conferences. We'd
have a lot of fun until they threw us out.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, that's true. All that they would throw us out
very early.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Well, we'd get at least one yeah, no, no, no, they
would notoriety.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
We'd be mivillainnized by at least I don't know, some
percentage in the public, right, I don't know, man, we'd
have others cheering us. Yeah, I mean, this might be
that hot take nonsense and that we've been looking for what.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
One of us would get a question and then they
would go, no, you you're with that?

Speaker 5 (14:47):
No, no, no, you have to stand on your own offen
the side. You can't stand next to me the human
shield that can't do that.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
How long does it take you to regenerate?

Speaker 4 (15:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Uh, yeah, it's it's it's indefensible for Dion Sanders and
he won't even but this is par for the court.
This is who he is.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Heys he got the w didn't he.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
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We'll get to that quarterback that's really mad coming up
on a couple of minute salty, but joining us now

(16:42):
to look back at a big, first real night of
college football where he had tons of games, obviously Colorado
being the headliner. But I want to mention really quick
because you know stuff you've never seen in college football before.
Steven f Austin played their opener tonight against North American,
which is an NAIA school. They won the game seventy

(17:03):
seven nothing, not surprising. North American hasn't been playing football
all that long, and they actually lost the game last
year ninety one nothing to Portland State. I think I
think Neil Lomax through a touchdown. But the game was
seventy to nothing at halftime, and so in the third
quarter they went to five minute quarters for the second half. Wow,

(17:24):
five minutes. So you see the opening kickoff and the
clock is at five minutes because the game was seventy.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
To nothing at a half time already hit the over.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
They played a five minute third quarter and a five
minute fourth quarter. I don't think that extend that affected
anything in Vegas. But there's nobody better to talk to
than our Vegas insider. He's on Twitter at Todd Furman.
Check him out, see him on CBS Bet the Board
podcast Friend of the Show, Todd, what's happening, buddy?

Speaker 7 (17:51):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (17:52):
I'm doing well, gentlemen, And yes, there was no number
on Steven F. Austin taking North American University to the woodshed.
If you happen actually nowhere, North American University is located.
It puts you both one step ahead of me.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
North America there, Yeah, I know, right there, it's a
North America large land mass.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
Yes, that's a very very distinct possibility. But it's tough
to find a logo or a football history for a
program that I'm not even sure is in the NTA.
It may indeed be nai.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
They might be able to do one of those documentaries
like that those guys that were just kind of showing
up and purporting to be a football scheme.

Speaker 8 (18:26):
Yeah, those teams actually won game, though they didn't get
blown out to the tune of seventy to nothing at halftime.
Harm So that would kind of defeat the purpose.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
All right, Todd, So Who's Heisman ods got better tonight?
Shardor Sanders or Travis Hunter.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
I mean, Shudor Sanders has a clear path to win
the Heisman Trophy. But of course, when you look at quarterbacks,
it's going to take Colorado winning eight nine games at minimum,
if not more than that for him to get there.
Travis's Hunters Travis Hunter's path looks a little bit unique
in that maybe Colorado as a team doesn't have to
go out there and perform at a very high level.
But if he's going to play iron Man and put
up god numbers, he's of course not going to account

(19:02):
for three receiving touchdowns on a game in game out
basis when they get in a league play. But you
did see Hunter's numbers come crashing down from right around
fifty to one down in that fifteen to eighteen to
one range. But fire beware, I don't think you should
be running the window to try and back Hunter. It's
going to take a unique set of circumstances for him
to get invited to New York and ultimately take on.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
The Heisen Todd on that final possession, do you think
Dion was trying to support his backers with the deep throw?

Speaker 8 (19:27):
He definitely wasn't trying to make it easy on his
team to lead the clock and get out of there
with a win. I'm not quite sure why when you
have the opportunity to run clock, you're throwing fade patterns
deep down the sideline. So, whether it's compass to door
Sanders stat lines, or to try and get outside the number.
For the legalized betting that takes place in the state
of Colorado, a baffling decision, to say the least, But
it would have been funny if North Dakota State had

(19:49):
three more yards of umfund. That Hail Mary that came
up just short to spoil the party in Boulder tonight.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, it'll be a nice if the officials threw a
flag on the helmet to helmet hit on the play before,
that would have given them fifteen more yards that it
would have been more interesting.

Speaker 8 (20:01):
It definitely would have helped, and I'm sure Dion would
have been pleasant to interview in the postgame press conference
if they came up on the wrong side of the
decision doing everything and then some to try and impersonate
Mario Cristoball when it comes to late game management.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
All right, Tom, we take a look at this weekend
in college football. We started with a couple of big bangers,
none bigger than Clemson and Georgia, two top twenty teams
matching up number one team at home. This is an
eleven and a half points spread for Georgia. But can
Clemson keep this close? Can Clemson get within the number?
Pull the upset? How do you see it? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (20:34):
Numbers come crashing down. You could have had upwards of
two touchdowns in this game about forty eight hours ago.
You saw a line move earlier today taking it off
a thirteen and at eleven and a half twelve range.
And when you look at Clemson, I mean, this is
a team that's thrived when they're in an underdog roll
of five points or more. It doesn't happen often under Davosweeny,
only thirteen times in total they're twelve and one against
the number. And you have to go all the way

(20:55):
back to twenty twelve when Clemson took on Florida State
early on in AVOs Tenure, where you saw Clemson catching
this many points like they will be at Mercedes Benz
Stadium on Saturday. Clemson dealing with some injuries on the
back end. We're not quite sure exactly what the injury
status looks like of some inexperienced defensive backs. If those
guys can't go, it does create a little bit of

(21:16):
a problem. But I think you look at this Clemson
team from top to bottom, they can play the disrespect card.
Georgia dealing with some suspensions in their own right, I
don't expect their lead running back Trevor Etn to be
out there. Smail Manden on the defensive side either, and
Georgia top to bottom defensively, just doesn't have the same
caliber of NFL first round draft picks that we've seen
over the last couple of years. So I'm fully on

(21:36):
board with this line movement, and I think Clemson will
have a chance to keep this game competitive from start
to finish.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Todd similarly, in terms of line movement, we've seen the
LSU USC line move anywhere from two to three points
depending on where you're shopping.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Why.

Speaker 8 (21:49):
Yeah, we've seen money come in on the Trojans. They
were six six and a half point dogs for the
trip out to Las Vegas. We'll call the number now
four more or less the consensus across the board. You
had some influence betting groups come in on USC. And
when you look at you know, Lincoln Riley and his
tracker or he's typically gotten the most out of his
teams offensively the first game of the season, you know
we'll have a few wrinkles in store for an LSU

(22:11):
defense that leaves a little bit to be desired. The
one mismatch that I think favors USC in this game
is the fact that they come in with a number
of receivers that are six four or taller LSU. You
look at the projected depth chart in their defensive backfield,
a lot of guys five ten, five eleven, and I
think that could pose a real problem. Garrett Nusmeyer has
the unenviable task of trying to replicate some of the

(22:31):
gaudy numbers we saw from Jayden Daniels. But for LSU,
I'm not quite sure where some of the impact players
come from. Real difficult to replace the caliber receivers of
Molik Neighbors and Brian Thomas. So I think this is
a competitive game, and we've seen Brian Kelly's teams Faulter
and season openers. I wouldn't be shocked at all if
us he pulls off the outright upset.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Hey, I hear you on that, Todd, because you know,
I look at our crew every night and I go, wow,
we're all five to nine and under, So I mean
we have it. We have a tough time. Man, We're
all five nine and under. We are not a tall care.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
No, and there's no chance at either of you or
anyone else on the crew would be able to slow
down Zachariah Branch with a full head of steam in
the openfield. So thankfully your careers do not depend on it.
Like the eighteen and nineteen year old that'll be patrolling
center fields for the LSU Tigers, I'd be in stadium
Sunday afternoon, living and.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Dying by my five yard chuck rule because I'd have
to knock them on their ass every time.

Speaker 8 (23:21):
Todd, I got a feeling that you'd be grasping an
air more often.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Than not, No question about it, all right, Todd.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Notre Dame, Texas A and M. The other big game
this weekend, Notre Dame. Were they coming out of this
so the winner they start knowing one.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
You know, this is a game that I've gone back
and forth with it, and when you look at the
line move on this contest, you've seen Notre Dame was
a one point favorite. Throughout the course of the summer.
A and M kind of leaked into that short favor role.
It was about a week and a half ago that
you saw some substantial money come in on the aggies,
pushing it out to field goal. But you're starting to
see a little bit of resistance in the market, some
buyback on Notre Dame. The big question that Notre Dame

(23:55):
will have to answer in this game is how does
an inexperienced offensive line hold up in hostile territory? The
first time in forty two years, the Irish will go
into a season opener without a senior on their offensive line.
Six combined starts and that left side a real problem unit.
Knowing the Nick s Gordon to produce transfer should have
an opportunity to wreak a little bit of havoc. But
on the flip side, does A and M have enough

(24:15):
in the way of offensive playmakers to create separation and
go out there and win by margin? It'll be interesting
to see how Connor Wegman grass Colin Klin's offense and
exactly who wins the battle chess match of sorts between
head coach for A and M Mike Elco and his
former quarterback Riley Leonard. They should know each other's moving
inside and out. So I think that's the game within
the game and can see why Notre Dame is starting

(24:36):
to take some money.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
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on the Hotline with us our buddy from Vegas, Todd
Furman at the betle Board Podcast. At bet the Board Pod,
everything you need to win the bar bets and to
take down your man and make you that much smarter
about the game you're watching from pillar to post, Todd,
how much is.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Trent Williams worth?

Speaker 5 (24:58):
That's going to be the big question, because right now
forty nine or still three and a half point favorites.
Smith's salivating thinking he's going to get the opportunity to
tee off on brock Perdy. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
I mean, when you look at at Trump Williams, offensive
linemen typically aren't going to move the number a ton.
He is one of the more valuable components though in
the league, especially for an offensive line that's already banged
up and has some question marks to begin with. So
you're not going to see that market move a ton
if Trump Williams is officially ruled out for that game
amid the contract dispute. But you're starting to see a
little bit of under money enter the market. We've seen

(25:28):
the price come down in the Jets all summer. We
just won't tell Smith about the article circulating about how
Aaron Rodgers may be a cancer in the Jets clubhouse
and how he's creating a divide that was widely circulated
earlier today that's just something we can sweep under the
rug because we know a quarterback that doesn't pull in
the same direction as the rest of his team has
never been the reason that a very talented roster has

(25:48):
imploded in the past. And we're talking about the National
Football League.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
See I already put that in for the A block
hour one tomorrow, so there you go.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
See. I feel like if Aaron Rodgers with cancerrom the
locker room, we'd have heard about that more than where
we are. That's something on TikTok or a Reddit thread like.
I feel like we'd have heard that by now. I see,
we'll say good things about it.

Speaker 8 (26:08):
We've never heard about Aaron Rodgers being a disruption. I
don't know where that storyline.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now wait a minute, Now, wait a minute.

Speaker 8 (26:14):
You said, wait a minute, five years, including trips to
Egypt instead of attending OTAs as a veteran leader of
the franchise.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
There's a difference between disruption and being a cancer. Okay,
just get it. You can't just throw it right and
said it's not all the same thing.

Speaker 8 (26:27):
Okay, Now we will find out sooner rather than later.
The one thing I will say though, for your beloved
Jets Aaron Rodgers will have to erase some of those
demons that have haunted him in the Bay Area as
a member of the Packers matched up against the forty
nine ers stop unit.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
All right, well, let me let me end with this
with you, Todd. Here we have the big game tomorrow night.
Fever in the sky. Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. We
saw earlier in the week Harmon was looking did the
odds for Rookie of the Year come off the board? Like,
is Caitlin Clark that much of a favorite or what's
going on there?

Speaker 8 (26:58):
We saw a lot of back and forth throughout the
course of the season. I mean, Kaitlin Clark got out
to you as heavy as a one to twenty favorite
in that market, that Angel Reese was starting to accumulate
double doubles, and you saw that price come down. But
over the last you know, a couple of weeks since
they've returned from the Olympic break, Kayln Clark has kind
of distancing herself from Angel Reese. And when you look
at some of the books they've been I don't want

(27:19):
to call it proactive pulling those numbers off, because anything
can happen down the stretch. But you're starting to think
that the only thing that would derail Kaylin Clark from
taking home that award would be a potential injury, especially
as Indiana has gotten themselves right back in the thickest
things to try and make the playoffs, and we've seen
their odds to win the WNBA Championship come from one
hundred to one at the peak of the market now
more in that twenty five to thirty range. I don't

(27:42):
think they'll have enough to get there with teams as
talented as with the Liberty, the Aces and the Seattle
Storm and put together, but a tremendous story done the
last If the WNBA can get Kaitlin Clark to the playoffs,
and you have to imagine she'll be amongst the front
runners to win MVP next year, you know, maybe second
in line behind Aja Wilson.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
You can fall him on Twitter at Todd Firm, that is,
at Todd Furman, see him on CBS, check out about
the Board podcast. Todd. Hope you had a wonderful summer,
looking forward to talking every week this year, talking football
and more. Have a great one. We'll talk to you now.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
Always always a pleasure, gentlemen, enjoy opening weekend at college football.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Happy New Year, Buddy.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
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a double shot. We got to end with a big
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Speaker 2 (28:28):
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(29:04):
I had the Cook Radio and get an extra five
percent off. I We're gonna finish with two big stories.
Hit you right between the eyes with both of them,
one from the NFL and one from the NBA. Let's
deal with the NFL won first. It's not often that
Dak Prescott is mad the guy, really, I don't know
that I've ever seen him mad. He handles success and
failure pretty well, all right. That you gotta have that

(29:26):
if you're a quarterback. This is about as mad as
I have ever heard him. Ask today about his contract situation,
he says, whatever the decision that's made for the beginning
of the season, whether they pay him or they don't,
will tell him what they think of him. Basically, if
they pay me, they love me. If they don't, they're
sending me a message they don't love me. Listen to

(29:47):
Dak Prescott, as I said, well back in camp, it's
two parts of this.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Both SATs have to come to the road.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
You don't need a deal done before the season.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I don't need a no no, do what you like
it done before the season. It says a lot if
it is or if it isn't. But however, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Doesn't really matter to me, to be honest with what
if it isn't.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Just how people feel, Oh they.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Don't like me, well like me.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
I stopped listening to what Jerry says A long time ago. Yeah, dude,
now I'm taking line.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I know that. Listen, I know that that that old
Jerry came back to give Ceed Lamb money. But new Jerry,
Venom Jerry Jones is gonna control Jerry Jones to not
give Dak Prescott money. Dak's gonna sit around going he
paid everybody the last twenty five years and now he's
gonna sit here and not pay me. I don't get it.
But Venom Jerry Jones is gonna take over Jerry. Don't

(30:39):
give him anybody till the end of the season. He
could those last two playoff games. I want to eat
his head. Well, let's not eat his head because you know,
we got a season to play, but maybe after depending
on that. But uh boy, I really want to give
him some money, Jerry. I'm taking over ed Wait, wait,
who's Eddie?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'm sorry, Jerry, Jerry.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Okay, Venom you control. I won't give Dak Prescott money.
I really think Venom Jerry Jones is gonna not pay
Dak Prescott and we're gonna go through this crazy soap
opera all season long.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
No create chaos theory, right because they can't franchise tag him.
That's part of his contract. I don't know how that's
allowed in the CBA. That's a whole other thing I
need to explore in the legal ease of it all.
But yeah, you made an exception after exception saying I'm
not gonna pay that guy. I'm not gonna pay that guy.
And in the eleventh hour, all of a sudden, the
giant novelty check like it's Publishers clearing house shows up

(31:30):
for these guys. For Dak Prescott, I mean, that's gonna wigh.
But you got a job to go do to get
your sixty million from Las Vegas or whoever the hell's
gonna pay you next or Jerry in week ten. Oh,
you're just killing it.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
No, no, no, he's gonna wait because it's because it's
about the playoffs. Dak's got to come up big in
the playoffs and Jerry will pay him. If not, he's gone,
and he'll be the quarterback of the Titans next year.
That's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
Now, you're killing off Will Levis. Sorry, sorry his head,
What are you doing, said Jerry? No, No, Kenny heads yet.
Season hasn't started yet. We'll wait a little bit.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Just now, you're just picking guys off one by one.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
The hell. Meanwhile, Steph Curry got paid today, extending his
contract for a year and sixty two million dollars. Now
has three years left on his deal with Golden State,
and this deal supposedly makes him a quote warrior for life.
Yeah not so fast.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
One of those weird rules though, right where they can't
extend him beyond.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
That extra year because of his age. Yeah, yeah, come
is that?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
But yeah, I know, Well, the NBA has got all
kind of we're gonna find a way to get to
be able to pay guys tons of money. But uh,
I don't know, We're just gonna find new ways to
pay guys money.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
He wants to be a one franchise player, but he
also wants to win. You saw him in the Olympics.
How bad he wanted the gold medal. Yes, he had
never won a gold medal before. But you can tell
he wants to play in big games. He's not with
Golden State. It's just not. The dime is over, Clay
is gone, It's gonna be another bad year. The West
is better, and he doesn't want to be playing Steph

(33:07):
the end of his career. You don't want Steph from
the playing round like he wants to win championships. Another
bad year, which is what's gonna happen this year because
Golden State's not gonna be great. And in the off season,
we're gonna start that Steph Curry sweepstakes, rolling sources. Steph
to meet with Warriors about direction of franchise and it
will be very difficult, but it will be needed and

(33:28):
necessary and he'll be handled with class on both sides.
But eventually, when you get to next offseason, the Warriors
will take the best trade for Steph Curry and he'll
want to go someplace else because he's gonna want to
win and not give away the last few years of
his career. One more bad year in Golden State, and
that's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, as it stands, the contract sync up if Draymond
does his player option, which at twenty seven point seven,
I gotta think that's a done deal already, that they
would leave and be eligible to go away at the
same time. But we know the NBA. It's like the
weather in the Midwest. Give it five minutes, it's gonna change.
And that's what we have here right Luka Doncicz tied, Hey,

(34:07):
the Lakers really would like him, and like, oh, he's
got a new contract, he's got this gotta Yeah, he
could be really salty and unhappy five minutes from now
and want to go team up with one of his
buddies or takeover LA. You never have an idea for
Steph Curry. I think he kind of got the jones
to win again during that barrage at the Olympics, so

(34:28):
I would not rule it out of the realm of possibility.
And don't forget Steve curR is already well into overtime.
Remember he was supposed to walk away years ago.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh yeah, I mean look, let's let's have this conversation
next off season when the Steph Curry sweepstakes are Underweight Nicks.
He's gonna want to go someplace to win the time.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Are you on it with the Knicks?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well? Did I say that? Does that me?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
No? That was venom Jason.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Let's give Steph Curry to the Knicks. Ben Mallins next,
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