All Episodes

September 14, 2024 40 mins

In Hour 4 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike get into Tua Tagovailoa's latest scary head injury suffered on Monday Night Football. Should he heed his peers' advice and retire? The guys approach that question from all angles in order to try and pin down an answer. They also make their picks for this week's NFL upsets! Plus, would Lightning McQueen need car insurance or life insurance?

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight
ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Fox Sports
Radio dot com, or stream us live every night on
the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, welcome in side final hour tonight the Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Eleven hours till kickoff. Baby.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Let's go live from the tirag dot com studios and
you have a new quarterback.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
We do? Yeah, congratulations after all the near interceptions.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, you know this is the first Chicago quarterback they've
had in forever. Really, Oh, local boys done good at
Chicago Catholic League. Gets okay, So we'll see how that
works out. We're live from the tireg dot com studios.
Direct dot com.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'll help you get there.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Election fast, free shipping, free road hazard protection and over
ten thousand recommended installers. Tireck dot com is the way
tire buying should be well. Coming up in about twenty minutes,
we have a big NFL topic that involves Lightning, McQueen,
coochow coutchugachuga.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
What about the chick era? Baby, come on, it's a
chick era. Well, what did I tell you? There's a
car on the freeways here in southern California?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
There it is September. That is what was passing me
on the four h five. Lightning McQueen the beginning of
the month scared the hell out of me.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I kind of you know, did the are you Are
you sure you're not hallucinating? Are you sure you haven't
dialed up a video game that you're not supposed to
hit the game?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Did a car pull up behind you playing Kenny g
Heyo DJ about ourselves a not er? Now, that would
have been fun, but no. Alas, but look one of
the bit Look. The biggest story of the last twenty
four hours of the NFL has been the status of
to a tongue of I Looa suffering the third concussion
of his career last night. Apparently the third concussion to

(02:08):
first concussion that he suffered that we thought he suffered
was not rule a concussion. It was really tough to
see him. It's tough to see him turtle and go
in certain positions, and Mike McDaniel, head coach of the Dolphins, said, listen,
Skyler Thompson's our quarterback. Now we're gonna sign somebody. We're
gonna wait and see out to a tongue of Iloa
responds and there's two big takeaways from this thing today.

(02:30):
Give you something a little bit different than you haven't
heard all day, which is just people on the radio
and TV talking in hushed tones about I won't tell
two of these things. First thing is this, It seems
like the general consensus has been two has got to retire, right,
That's what we've read. All players have talked about. Two
has got to retire. Two has got to retire. Time
to retire times, Yes, a lot of concussions, and I'm

(02:53):
sure that's going to be debated, but that's something he's
going to debate with his family, with the Dolphins, with
everybody that cares about him. He's not gonna sit here
and retire because somebody tells him to.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
You should retire. You gotta retire, gotta walk away, gotta walk,
you gotta walkway, gotta walk, you gotta walk. I gotta retire, Okay,
I don't think for a second.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Two is gonna be a guy that just says, no,
whatever you can do, shoot me up, doc and get
me back out there.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
No, this is gonna be a very serious conversation. He knows.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Third concussion. He just signed a big contract. It's not
that easy. There's a lot of things that have to
go on this. But the Dolphins have ten days before
they play their next game, probably gonna be longer than
that before TWOA comes back to play again early in
the season. I'm sure they will exercise. Oh, they will
exercise a good amount of caution this. So he's gonna
have time to think things through. If he does decide

(03:39):
to retire, he's gonna make that decision. He's not gonna
do it because a football A couple of football players say, dude,
you should retire. I watch you retire. Because football players,
they're not These people aren't talking about anybody else retire.
There's lots of concussions that people are getting. No one's
saying these guys should retire just to us should retire.
Now there's a reason why. I'll get to in a
couple of seconds while you're seeing it. But just to
understand that this is something that's a little bit more

(04:02):
nuanced than oh, hey, like they expect the headline this
morning should be to a third concussion retires from NFL.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
No, And that's it. It's it's in the moment. I'm
a little disappointed. And you have the opportunity to use
the phrase that pays abundance of abundance, and you change
the cautionary tale, you know, because nobody uses just a
minimal amount of cost. No one says that, are they
gonna play this week? Yeah, probably, we're gonna use a
very minimal amount of caution. Then just throw them out there.

(04:29):
We don't get to ponder it for a second. Yeah, shrug,
and then tell them to take us twenty touch.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
People read from prepared statements and never read from unprepared
statements nicely does Oh, I don't know what this says.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm just gonna start reading it. No, no one, No
one does that. It's kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's a prepared statement, right here, here's your copy. Read, okay, d.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
The bare minimum of caution, like we may even have any,
but we'll do at least we'll do at least the
bare minimum of it.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Just to satisfy whatever quote is.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
We have to Okay, great, Yeah, in the twenty four hours, right,
we're on air as it happens, we watch him make
contact with Damar Hamlin again talked it up immediately of wow,
the football gods, this is weird to Hamlin has had
a fantastic start to the season since getting back into
the starting lineup.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
One of the great stories.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
But another situation whereby as that happened, go back to
that game against the Bengals, what was the immediate reaction.
He should never play football again? Right, he should retire.
So it's interesting that that's the collision that happens on
Thursday Night football. But in the immediate aftermath it becomes
the well, I'll be the voice of reason and I'll
tell him he's got to stay. I'm gonna caveat it

(05:37):
all out say it. I never played the NFL, I
never played professional sports, but I think he should retire.
Like I'm never gonna rip a jersey off a guy,
like even when it's the seventy three Willie Mays or
Jerry Rice running around in the Seahawks or Broncos jersey
trying to latch on one last time look, man, when
it's done, the phone's gonna stop ringing.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
And then retirement is a long period. Who was it.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
That that always said that? Which which ex quarterback? Was that?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Phil?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Like, hey, you know the retirement is long, so think
long and hard about it. Likewise, Fortua, it's a very
young man, just got paid. Responsibility feels to his team,
to his family, to Mike McDaniel who stood up for
him and helped him get that deal, and the offense
orchestrated for the things he does best. All of that that,
there's a lot that goes on. So I get it.

(06:27):
The initial reaction from folks in our business. You know,
you might have had the you know I would retire.
I think I would retire. Like you haven't been in
those circumstances, right, you haven't been in the This is
everything Like if someone suddenly told you, hey, your voice,
you know what you've had, you know, enough colds to
where there's damage to the vocal cords and he keep talking,

(06:49):
this is gonna have What are you gonna do? You're
gonna stop talking into a microphone? No, that's what you do, right,
or whatever else it is you do from pillar to posts.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And I get it.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Degrees of danger, it's and risk reward, all of those
things that come in. But for twenty four hours, that
becomes the talk because it is Tua. And you can
go back and pull the videotape of those first concussions,
go back to twenty twenty two and the discussions that
we had of him stumbling back to the huddle and everything.

(07:18):
The visuals are awful, and we said it was gonna
happen in the media before we even got off air
last night. What was the b roll constantly rolling up
on the highlights. It wasn't anything about the game. It
wasn't the interception for a touchdown, wasn't anything about James Cook.
It was remember these earlier concussions from Tua and to
inform where we're at today. And it's a long, nuanced conversation,

(07:41):
a lot of doctor visits and a lot of contemplation,
and anybody trying to put a timeline on it is
doing a disservice to everybody. I think Mike McDaniel was
the guy, right. I worry about you as part of
the family and for your family, and we'll figure out
the rest of it afterwards. So here's the second part
of it. That I can get. It's something a little

(08:03):
bit different than you've heard all day, because I could
tell you why the people that are calling for Tua
to retire are doing so. But first, just to give
you a sample, we've heard from former players.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Analysts.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
RG three said it last night, he should retire. Other
players today, Antonio Pierce, Raiders head coach, former NFL star said,
oh yeah, if I was too, I would hang it up.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
I'll be honest, I'd just tell to retire. It's not
worth it, It's not worth to play the game. I
haven't witnessed anything like I've seen that's happened to him
three times.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Scary.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
You can see right away the players' faces on the field.
You can see it, since urgency from everybody to get
to a help. I just think it. At some point,
you know, he's don't live longer and he's gonna play football.
Take care of your family.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
So why are these people saying he should retire? Why
are the people who were saying you should retire all
have one thing in common.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
They were all former NFL players.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You listen to the promos, listen to different shows around here,
whether it's Dan or Colin or anybody else that no
one saying, hey, I'm not gonna tell them he should retire.
I'm not gonna tell too, we should retire to tell.
But all these players des Brian, i think, was another one,
said to a retire, to a retire, Now, why are.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
They doing this?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
One is it comes from a good place, but it
also kind of fosters an agenda that I that I
agree with is that yes, they're all concerned about TOUA
and you see these concussions, and yes they were they
are bad. We've seen players get concussions before, but two
is very front of mind with us. With what's happened
over the last couple of years. They know, Hey, if
I had to do it over again, maybe there's some

(09:38):
situations I wouldn't play through medically because I understand that
when I finished playing football, there's gonna be some things
physically that I'm not gonna be able to do over
the course of my life. That's the trade off that
we have. That's some maybe I can't lift my arm
over my head, but something like this. I wouldn't have
played through this concussion. I would not have played through
this ankle injury because I still limp. I would have
sat out another week. They know, oh that all of

(10:00):
the pushing they did to play, whether it was I
want to play to keep my position or the team
was pushing me to play, and they kind of convinced
me to play because it was a big game.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I wouldn't do that again.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
And I want to warn you about that, just in
case teams are going to try to get you to
continue to play and to his big contract. It's going
to play into it. But the other part of it
is this, as I said, they den't said there's there
ever been a cry for anybody else to retire who's
gotten a couple of concussions? Right when Giselle Buncher said, yeah,
we don't talk about tom Brady's cocussions. Whoa Tom Bradys
had a lot of concussions. Yeah, no one said tom

(10:32):
Brady should retire.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
But here's TUA. Because the players want to point out
and this is part of Hey, this allows them to
bring this up, is they want to point out how
ridiculous the NFL is about player safety that they put
a lot they try to put a big shiny bow
on Hey we care about player safety when really they don't, right,

(10:54):
And you just go back to week one. We're gonna
play this game in Brazil. Uh okay, So first, forget
about player safety on the field. We can't leave the hotel,
not that we're gonna play this game, and we're gonna
play in a really bad field that guys can really
get hurt on because it's done for soccer and it's
really dangerous, and we saw Jordan Love get hurt already.
The NFL and players already extremely upset with how they

(11:15):
feel the NFL has done fake player safety, so they're
gonna use this. Hey, here's Tua, I'm going to bring out.
You should retire because that's how they want to present this.
Look at this guy, you can't keep it safe for him,
he should retire. There's a reason why. It's just it's
mainly NFL players. Guys who played a long time in
the league did have gone through this that are saying it.
And I understand it, right, I get it because I

(11:36):
get the fact that, hey, you think the NFL has
done all these things, and we hear about the guardian
caps of people we wear we wear in camp, and
that helps a little bit, but when you really get
down to it, the player safety thing is not nearly
what it should be. And they look at all the
players that came before them that had to have that
big lawsuit against the NFL and get all kinds of
money because that debilitating injuries. They want to make sure

(11:57):
that that conversation stays out there. So it comes from
good place for Tua because they're concerned about him and
what they went through in their lives injury wise. But
it's also a bit to say, hey, NFL still doesn't
do enough player safety wise, whether it's too with someone else,
whatever it is. Yes, it's a it's tackle football and
it's part of the game. We want to bring up
overall injury history and player safety is not what it

(12:19):
should be.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Look for years we've talked about, you know, vitamin T
and everything else, the shots that you take it. Look
Mike Mark Schlareth was on FS one this morning breakfast
Ball as they're getting after it and talking about what
twenty nine surgeries and playing in a game, getting through it,
getting to the hospital, having the surgery Monday, and then
being ready after a little bit of cleanup and a

(12:42):
little bit of extra from the trainers to get back
out there the following Sunday, part of it was love
of the game, right, and he is an unabashed card
carrying member of the I would play football every day
if my body would allow me to, right, That is
who Mark Slit frequent guest to the show in years past,

(13:02):
and hopefully we talked to him again here soon. But
you know, he's one of those guys standing up saying,
you know, understands the weight, and he the one thing
in his retirement was he wished he'd understood at the
time how much it put a weight on his family, right,
and how much they were concerned about what he was
doing for his health, his longevity, et cetera, which is

(13:24):
real and very much as all these X players talk.
You know, there's it's like the NFL. You can you
could be talking both things, right, because we talk a
lot about the new play the kickoff rule, and you
can tell me all you want about the potential for
less concussions or whatever. How much was the promotion of it,
We're gonna get more big plays in the kicking game, right,

(13:47):
It wasn't as much about player safety. Has as we
got closer to kickoff of Week one, that narrative changed.
It now became a all right who's going to be
the creative one to solve this new Rubik's cube of the.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Kickoff A while, it was all way players are getting hurt,
So let's let's put it away for a while. Oh,
players haven't gotten hurt as much. Let's bring it back, like,
let's make this met now.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Now they figure out where that space is right and
this is gonna make it that much safer because you're
still gonna have a lot of touchbacks, but you might
get the explosive play. So you know, it's it's having
it both ways. Likewise, the players here, it's the a
little bit of guilt I think of their own maybe
what they echoing what Schlareth had to say of you know,

(14:29):
what their families and everybody had to do physically, maybe
some of the leg arm whatever, the stuff that doesn't
quite go away that you thought would right, more surgeries
post playing career, making sure stuff flows through. And every
time we get towards CBAS, you and I have talked
about it a lot, and maybe folks get a little

(14:49):
bit bored with it, but it's always a reminder of
how many different levels and layers of players you have
on a roster. And we talk about San Francisco's a lot, right,
eight players at fifteen million go and pull up all
the salaries of the rest of that roster. You got
a lot of guys making barely above league minimum that
churn out, right, which is what we always do. The

(15:10):
average careers three years, like well, but that guy's twenty years,
that guy's Yeah, there's a lot of guys that played
four games and got cycled back out because you're not
being looked after, and when it comes to voting and
processing whatever, they're gonna take whatever the best short term
put more money in my pocket solution is as opposed
to long term health and consideration for the post playing

(15:32):
careers after their three or five or seven or whatever
years there are. So that's the other thing that's at
play in the background, and the stuff in Brazil and
these international games that allegedly they could go through and
try to push another half. Well, you get half the
funds from all of these things, right, I know we
talk about the owners and what they can pocket off

(15:52):
of some of these, but on the grand scale for
the NFL, you get half the revenue. You need to
put a stop to it, if that means a strike
to make sure you're getting what you need. You got
to think about the long term health and and that's
again health and health right, capital H lower H. And
then Tua unfortunately becomes the pawn in this fight because

(16:13):
it's the most visible as a quarterback and the graphic
imagery that we've seen coming out of these collisions exit.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
How about a fresca at Swollen Dome. The Jason Smizer
with Mike Carmon live from the tiraq dot com studio.
So there's a reason why was all the players that
are coming out and saying what they're saying. Coming up next, Yes,
Lightning McQueen and a big NFL topic, Plus Mike and
I start giving you our big picks for this week
in the NFL and upset specials in college football.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Keep it here Fox. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
Hey gang, this is Jay Glazer, host of Unbreakable, a
mental health podcast, and every week we will have on
leaders from sports entertainment like Sean McVay, Lindsay Vaughn, Michael
phelf David Spade, got Fiemmy, and also those who can
help us in between the ears, anyone from a therapist
to someone like Ed Milett for John Gordon. We've all

(17:16):
been through some sort of adversity to get to the top.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
We've all used different tools.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
Listen to Unbreakable with Jay Glazer and Mental Wealth podcast
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get podcasts.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Fox Sports Radio, the Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Which version do you like better? Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
As Zoe would say, it's the Maxon. It's the Maxon.
We'll get to our big picks upset specials in the
NFL college football coming up in a couple of minutes,
but we have a big NFL topic to break down here,
courtesy of the Jets and Lightning McQueen.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Now, we talked about this last week.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
We had the cameras in the Buffalo Bills camp where
this happens where different entities show up with cameras and
they ask a random question. It's kind of fun for
players to answer. Last week with the Bills was name
a random NFL player and Keon Coleman was the guy
that decided, Okay, this guy's random, this guy's not was
pretty fun.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
It was pretty good, right, because remember we had the
Jets with the What's Overrated Aaron Rodgers going training camp.
Yeah yeah, staring blankly guilty pleasure songs with the Bears
to where they started doing karaoke, which got really weird
after a while, especially when guys started doing the slow
jams in front of the camera.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
But now we have the Jets and a very specific
question about Piston Cup Champion race car number ninety five
Lightning McQueen.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Lightning McQueen have car insurance or life insurance car insurance? Well,
he has made it for the car insurance.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I don't know life insurance because he used the car
life assurance.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I don't think he has any insurance, car insurance, life.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Insurance and life insurance because that's his life. He is
a car.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
He don't know, but he do. He is a car.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
He's got health insurance, he got changes oil, he got
fix his tires.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, go check up with the mechanic aka the doctor
and their world.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Their humans, but their car form so their life insurance.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
He has life insurance, all right, So you definitely had
kind of a split down the minute, life insurance, car insurance.
I will say this as a guy. Look, I told
you know, Caddy Shack is movie I've seen the most
of my life. My friends and I and and and
relatives that all worship the movie.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Like we do.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
We do quizzes like who's the third Caddy that plays
on Caddy Day with Noonan and d Nunzio. The answer
is Mitchell. Uh, you know, just random stuff like that.
I've not seen any movie more than I've seen Cars,
because when Zoe was a we watched it every day.
We watched we watch Cars every single day. That is,
I'm not saying I watched it every because sometimes I
would close my eyes. Oh I can get twenty minutes here,

(19:59):
because we're gonna I've seen this scene before a couple
of times. But I gotta say I think Lightning McQueen
absolutely has car insurance because yes, he's a car. There's
no humans in the world. Everything's cars. You can always
fix a car, right, The cars don't need to die.
Obviously they had to do because Paul Newman actually passed away.

(20:21):
So they said, oh, you know, Doc pass but you
can always fix a car. Yeah, cars get totaled, but
you just don't want to go in and spend money
on it. So the car is told, I'm just going
to buy a new one. But in a world where
cars are actually alive, it's all. We can rebuild this.
We can give you a new engine and the car
is back. We can give you new lenticular eyes that
you can look at. So it's car insurance because you
can fix the car and the car can still go.

(20:44):
You can't don't really have cars don't really have to
die in the car's world.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Now, what's funny is that I actually saw a video
about this, someone interviewing the historian of the Car's universe
for Pixar asking this question. It was basically, walk with me,
I'm going to a meeting, ask me questions, and they
asked this very question and he goes, well, they're the
humans of the world, and it was Doc Hudson to

(21:11):
fix them, so life insurance clearly.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
No, but Doc, but Doc is like Doc is like
little Luigi, you know, they fix the cars.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
But the idea was in his mind as the historian
of this, that it is life insurance, that they are
the humans of this world, but the.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Cars don't have to die. You don't kill the cars.
Cars don't pass away, talk and be immortal. You can
fix any part of a car and the car will say.
Lightning McQueen could could lose his carburetor, he could lose
his gas tank, he can lose all his time. And
you put more what he's telling the medical establishment, I
don't has the ability to keep if they take out

(21:52):
Lightning McQueen's engine and put it a new engine. Suddenly
he's speaking differently. And I saw the interview with the
guy and that was his answer. So as soon as
I heard this, Clint and he just got a chuckle.
It's like she wants to have seen the same thing
at her Instagram, but like he went through this long
explanation of you know, being humans. And then it gets

(22:13):
to the question of small cars in the crowd at
the Piston Cup. All right, so I say car, you
say say life. All right, So Ian and Mary, what
do you what do you guys say?

Speaker 7 (22:23):
Carl Life man has been passionately yelling on the other
side of the glass here, okay, So I'm really curious
to hear what she what her argument is for me.
I think it's clearly both. No, you gotta pick one.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Come on, hear me, there's radio. You can't just say
it could be either one. I'm not here's gonna wait
a Sunday between the Chiefs and the Bengals. Either team
can win. You know, he's really the waffler. What do
you want? Think about it?

Speaker 7 (22:48):
Think about how in real life for humans, there's life
insurance and there's health insurance. So what I'm saying is
car insurance in the world of cars is the equivalent
of health insurance. I say, lightning loses tire or something,
that would be car insurance to get a new quote
unquote leg and.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Okay, so so tell me that. Tell me some kind
of injury he would have that wouldn't fall under car.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Insurance if it's some life threatening thing, what general tell
me an injury, you probably have a better under its over.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Have legs brashes into the wall and all the fluids drained,
so he's bled out.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
He doesn't have broad Okay, that's oil and you would
replace it?

Speaker 8 (23:25):
No, no, no, no, no, but okay if any fluids and yeah,
he would technically theoreticity would blot out because he lose oil. Yeah,
you can't car with no oil, No engine's gonna mess up.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
But what would happen. You would put oil in the car,
in the car and that engine. Guys, though, look and
then you're said, okay, here's here's the thing. A human,
if they lose a lot of blood, would bleed out
and die. Right if they don't get more blood, Right,
that happens.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
If a car.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Doesn't have oil, you can put oil in the car
and the car runs again.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well, but that engine probably you probably No, No.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
You can.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
You can't say oil and blood are the same.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
No, they look ke he hard though, people depending on
your blood transfusing blood, transplants and stuff.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
That's blood one though it's is still gonna be Okay,
the viscosity could be the same.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
No, viscosity is that's a very good word to use.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
You brought up the dumb argument of like, oh, the engine,
the engine.

Speaker 9 (24:19):
Look, if a car can't run with no engine, okay, basic, right.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Could you put a new engine in a car and
it runs.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
Car insurance isn't going to cover that car insurance will?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
What do you know for that?

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Do you know?

Speaker 9 (24:30):
Because that's that's life insurance. Because the engine, you need
an engine for the car to run.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
It's like the heart.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
So therefore you don't have the engine, it would be
considered life.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Okay, here's listen. Here's where you lose. Okay, here's where
you lose. If I have like if I, let's say,
a heart and the engine of the same thing. Okay,
a person's heart and a car's engine. You want to
do that? Can we do that?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Okay? Okay? So if you.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Take my heart out, if my heart is no good
and you take it out, I'm gonna die, right unless
you have a transplant.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Ready, doom you take.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
You take my doctor Jones, you take my heart out,
I'm gonna die.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
It doesn't matter. However, But if you take an engine out.

Speaker 9 (25:10):
Of a car, it's gonna die.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
You could put an engine in eight months later, five
years later, you could put an engine in and the
car is going on.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
The same thing.

Speaker 9 (25:19):
But it's the same thing with a heart transplant.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
Like people whould they they're on waiting lists and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
No cars are on waiting lists FORRUTOR Because you just.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Said with the yeah, like with the engine, you're like, oh,
you can put it in eight months later.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
It's theoretically the same thing with a heart transplant.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
No, it's not, no, it I'm not. If you don't
put a fight. You take my heart out.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
You can't put it back in in eight months and sudden, Oh,
Jason's fine, you just had eight months of a nap.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
Just like how you can't take the engine and put
it back in eight months later. It's still dead. So
it's the same.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh yeah, you can.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I could take the engine out of my car, leave
it up on blocks in front of my house.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
My neighbors would hate that, but I could do that.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
And then not gonna engine back in.

Speaker 9 (26:02):
In the world take an old engine in the.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
World of cars?

Speaker 7 (26:05):
Could you take Lightning's tires off? Put him out in
the garage? Take his engine out. Lightning McQueen is just
a shell of Lightning McQueen. For eight months, he's on
the eye.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
L at the point he gets new tires all the time.
He gets new tires all the time.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well, but that's like getting a massage. No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
You're taking the tires off, but no one takes your
arm off massages. It puts him back on your body.
This is not Frankenstein. Have you not seen a nightmare
before Christmas? Have you not seen Shia la Buff fighting
people in Edinburgh? Because he's how great was see make
your dreams come true. I'm so bummed that I left
Edinburgh and a month later he's fighting people in the bar.

(26:48):
I'm like, dude, you could have been the guy either
helping you running for your life from Shia la buff.
So all right, so they're walking in the woods, all right.
So now Steve Disager's got to break this time.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
All right. So he wants car insurance, life insurance for
lightning McQueen. Steve, O, what is it?

Speaker 5 (27:08):
He's a car. Let's just leave it at dead. So
car insurance insurance.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I win, I win, I win. Well, no, I don't
care you listen. I don't care that Steve just.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Don't.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
I don't care that he wanted to answer the question,
just he didn't want part of the conversation.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
He answered the way I wanted him to, and I won.
So it's okay, doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Actually, it'd been going on so long, I don't really
remember which side you're on.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's okay, you you, Dion Sanders, this whole thing. I
just want to be done and move on from this conversation.
That's right, because I'm.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Believing this school anyway very soon.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, Hey, do you want to play Do you want
to play one of your kids rap songs over your
update instead of the school song?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Do you want to do?

Speaker 5 (27:51):
Speaking of football, you guys mentioned earlier tonight, though Chicago
Bears with the chance to go to two and Oho
have the Sunday night game at Houston. The plan is
the roof is going to be open for that game.
There is gonna be a scheduled pregame fireworks show from
the roof. Of course, one of the damaged roof panels
might be replaced by kickoff, but not all of them.

(28:14):
And it's warm and Houston this weekend. I have ninety
seven tomorrow, ninety five on Sunday. Again, roof open for
the Sunday night game. Even the overnight lows are in
the high seventies. Last night, Amazon Prime had its Thursday
Night football season premiere, and even though it was a blowout,
Bill's winning at Miami almost fifteen million viewers. For that

(28:34):
Yankees Red Sox got two million viewers, and ESPN's College
Football got under one million viewers.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
What did Young Sheldon get?

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Correct night?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Wrong? Shows?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
You got?

Speaker 3 (28:46):
You got to pick a new show now, no, no, no, no.
The Georgie's first wedding show is coming out.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
We'll see how that is that a Thursday show, though,
I don't know because this was always what we compared,
and we compared it was young Sheldon was always the one.
So now you need a new show to compare it
to the it's the big hit, so you have to
figure that out. The big news for this Sunday is
that Christian McCaffrey is out again the forty nine Ers
running back with the calf and achilles injuries. Well he's
not on IR yet, but at least going on the
IR list is a possibility. Vikings wide receiver Jordan Addison

(29:15):
out against San Francisco with an ankle injury. Steelers quarterback
Russell Wilson with the calf injury, questionable for Sunday at Denver.
Packers quarterback Jordan Love listed as questionable for Sunday with
a sprained MCL. Running back for Seattle Kenneth Walker doubtful
with an oblique injury. Cincinnati's at Kansas City Sunday. Bengals
wide receiver t Higgins listed is doubtful with the bad hamstring.

(29:36):
Chiefs wide receiver Marquise Brown will have shoulder surgery on Monday.
He's now on IR. Sunday night at Houston, Bears will
visit wide receiver Keenan Allen with the heel injury is
called a game time decision. Texans tight end Dalton Schultz
return to practice today after an ankle injury. Dallas tight
end Jake Ferguson is doubtful with the sprained mcl Giants

(29:57):
wide receiver Malik Neighbors practice fully today after ane injury.
Philadelphia White out AJ Brown was called limited in practice
today with a hamstring injury. By the Way Bills linebacker
Terrell Bernard could miss a month after a pectoral strain.
In the win last night, college football on Fox TV.
Tonight Top twenty matchup went to Kansas State over Arizona

(30:17):
thirty one to seven, and Arizona had led seven to
nothing late first quarter. The UNLV won on a touchdown
with about two minutes left, twenty three to twenty over
Kansas in Kansas City. Kansas and Vegas scored on a
fourth and goal run from the one. UNLV had trailed
seventeen to six just before halftime. Saturday at noon Eastern time,
Number four Alabama at Wisconsin on Fox, then Oregon at

(30:38):
Oregon State. Among the five WNBA games tonight, Las Vegas
won at Indiana. Caitlin Clark did set the league single
season assists record Minnesota and Seattle with wins Washington and
Connecticut as well. Tiger Woods had another back operation today,
the sixth surgery on his lower back in the last
ten years. He only played in five tournaments this season,
the four Majors plus the event in La Now. It

(31:00):
was the first time he played all four majors since
twenty nineteen, but he failed to shoot under par in
any round at any major in twenty twenty four. The
late night ballgame went to Seattle in a comeback over
Texas five to four. Julio Rodriguez had four hits, including
a three run homer bottom of the eighth. The Mariners
had trailed four to nothing in the seventh. Houston won

(31:21):
its game, San Diego and Milwaukee with wins. Cincinnati got
a grand slam from Elie de de la Cruz, winning
eight to four at Minnesota. Aaron Judge a grand slam
in the seventh for the lead and eventually the five
to four win for the Yankees over Boston for Judge
home run number fifty two and the first place Yanks
are three games ahead of the Orioles in the AL East.
Baltimore got shut out one nothing at Detroit. Gunnar Henderson

(31:43):
broke up a combined no hit bid with two outs
in the top of the ninth win. He tripled. Mets
and Braves each won. Braves still one game behind the
Mets for the final NL Wildcard. Atlanta won its game
six to two over the Dodgers. The Mets won at
Philadelphia eleven to three Jose Quintana over Aaron Nola. Mets
hit three to three run home short staff Francisco Lindor
left as a precaution with a sore back back to you.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Steve other met to say that he should be fine
and potentially we'll play tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
See what he does. He tries to allay all your fears.
That's the type of guy, Steve disager.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
They said he would have stayed in the game if
it was a closer game, but they took him out.
Mister smile still can finish second. All's well with the MVPE.
Everything is good right now. He cares, well, why do
I get Steve? Steve backed up my point with car insurance.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I funing. He just told you to shut up. Thank you.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Now, we have our big NFL picks coming up in
a few minutes, but let's do this first. The big
college football game tomorrow, big noon kickoff, which is coming
up in less than twelve hours. Yeah, Alabama and Wisconsin.
I'd love to be able to tell you I think
Wisconsin's going to win this game. I love to be
able to tell you that. But they just can't move
the football. Their offense is not any good. And this

(32:55):
is going to be the game where Jalen Miler announces,
remember me, I'm here for the Heisman t big game,
national TV. He could have won it last year, but
Jayden Daniels goes absolutely nuts. But this game gonna get
all the attention. First game of the day. We remember
how good he is. And Milroe says, hey, stop talking
about Kyle mccordon all those touchdowns, make room for me

(33:16):
on that Heisman podium.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I love how you got the Syracuse guy, and nicely done.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
He's leading the country in touchdowns. I can't help that
nobody's talking about him and said he's great.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
You're trying to speak it into existence states going, Is
he really that good? Do we really let that guy go?
Is he really that good? In Wisconsin's saying why didn't
we get a transfer here? Why didn't he stay in comforts?

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Look, we talked to Pete Futek.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Earlier in the show and he's like, well, there's some
thinking that their offense will be more dynamic against a
bigger opponent that they just didn't want to show. Stuff's like,
how do you work it out if you didn't run
some of those plays and put Van Dijk in opportunities
to make plays downfield, spread the offense, et cetera. So
all right, I'll grab my popcorner, I'll watch. I'm in,

(34:04):
But I'm not expecting the defense to suddenly pitch a
shutout here either, And they're not winning a shootout, and
I'll expect Alabama's d to make one extra play. I
think Wisconsin's within the sixteen and a half, but I
don't say so with great confidence after watching them the
first two weeks. No matter how big my Big Ten

(34:24):
allegiance is, this is one that could go ugly fast.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Now, coming up next, we get into the NFL. Give
you our.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Upset special picks Big game picks for Week two. Keep
it here We're finishing with a flourish Jason Smith Mike Harmon.
Remember is one winner, forty two losers. Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Blah blah blah. We'll get to the NFL picks second. Wow.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
So this video is just surfaced tonight. Jane's Addiction recently reunited.
Jane's Addiction. Yeah, Perry Farrell, Dave Navarro, Sons of Anarchy,
Dave Navarro. Uh, we're doing a concert. We're doing a
concert in Boston, and something happened and you'll see the video.

(35:27):
I'm sure it's gonna play all weekend long. Dave Navarro's
playing a solo and Perry Farrell just runs up to
him and bumps into him and starts screaming at him,
and then he throws a punch at Dave Navarro, and
Dave Navarro gets mad and a crew guy comes in
grabs Perry Farrell. They usher him off, the lights go
off stage, have to pull Perry Farrell off, and the

(35:49):
concert ends.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Good night springen, there will be no ONCOREDJ.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Do you think Perry Farrell God Dave Navarrow's stealing once
when he was FINEDJ.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Now the breakdown of it says, all right, problems started
during Mountain song when Perry comes over and shouts at Dave,
and then it gets worse as they're playing three days,
and then during the song Ocean Size is where he
throws the punch and eventually the crew and the basses
have to come in and take Perry and Ferrell, and

(36:26):
they finally turn the stage right like nobody needs to
see this.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Maybe Berman would do it this way and j clearly
Jane says, the concert's over.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
I can't get over this video concerts over.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Get your asses to the door, Jane's ass.

Speaker 9 (36:49):
They start fighting on stage.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
They turn the lights off.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
This is insane, like he's start doing a solo and
Parry Ferrell comes in like he's screaming at it. No,
just screaming the lyrics like and not in the hey,
you know here we are with little creative tension.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
No, he gets in his face.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
DJ Dave Navarro said stop and now clearly maybe they
won't speak for three days.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
DJ oh oh just over.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I ran outside just to let me pull the cor
corner and pull the curtain back here, but I ran
Outsizid Harmon, you got to come in here.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
James Addiction got in a fight on stage tonight.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
And I've been seeing all these great reviews in the tour.
How great they saw? No, it's funny, does it in town?
Visit goes well, this is what we were waiting for
when the Oasis showed write the over underund how fast
they're they come to blow.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Cleam and Nola right, and see it's not us. We
didn't do this, not us.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Dave Navarro the up front, looking up tough, playing solo.
You got the person that had the camera though, right,
so we're watching online is like focused on Navarro, like
close up shot, like, oh, I'm getting them doing this
great solo.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
And then it was very cos.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I don't understand what I really don't. I don't get it.
I don't that's so great. The Jason Smithson with Mike
Carmen Lot from the time Wrecked dot com Studios. Yeah,
we're gonna give you our upset special picks in the
NFL for this weekend. I'll go first. I'm not thrilled
with the injuries they have, but it doesn't matter. Tampa
Bay's offense is rolling. Baker Mayfield for last year now

(38:34):
is playing the best football of his entire career. Everybody's
sleeping on Tampa Bay being contenders. Yes, it could be
a field goal game that Detroit pulls out. Seven and
a half is too many points. Give me the Bucks
getting the seven and a half. I'll take all the point.
I'm not saying all the Bucks. No, no, I'll take
all seven and a half points.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I think they like the Bucks more after watching at
Lant and we want that's true. I'm gonna go with
an old friend of yours, Minnesota plus five s.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Why making a personal Minnesota? But Sam Darnold was a
guy that you loved, Yeah, like five years ago. That's
like say we broke up. I broke up with her
like five years ago. I haven't even think. I'm not
even thinking about her.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
But the heart still parents Minnesota. Good balance, good depth.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I think the defense is just good enough to get
that stop, to get them within the five point spread.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Does it need to be a big underdog for upset
special They're only getting a point. But give me the
Rams over the Cardinals. Look, the Rams are still as
good as I said they were last week. They're going
to the NFC Championship Game. My big prediction before the season.
They're going to the super Bowl. The Cardinals are still
the Cardinals. They win this game. It's not particularly close

(39:48):
and the Rams get to one and one.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Like I'm going away. I love it.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I'm gonna take the Raiders plus eight at Baltimore. Ravens
win this game, but the Raiders offensively give him a
little bit of fits. Gardner, Minshew's hurt, all the Boo
Birds and Tonio Pierce everybody. So forty one and a
half is the total. It's a slug fest, but they
keep it within the total. Eight points is a lots
of points.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, that's you did. We're outside that window right.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome for Dave Navarre.
I'm Perry Farrell coming up next. Take that it's burning,
Bernie Fredo. This is Fox mets Jo
Advertise With Us

Hosts And Creators

Jason Smith

Jason Smith

Mike Harmon

Mike Harmon

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.