September 17, 2024 • 40 mins
The guys explain what the NFL could learn from the Falcons huge win over the Eagles & Jason explains what Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rodgers have in common & more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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should be. So much drama coming off of the Falcons
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one point victory over the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles, Eagles
snatch de feet from the jaws of victory.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, less than one percent according to Steve Dezeger and
next Gens.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So I always how much of that really is? Can
you really? Can you really just subscribe to Oh, they
had a one percent chance to win this game at
that point, Yeah, but that's that one point, but then
it changes to like twenty five percent after drops the
pass or when he gets I mean it changes, so
it's not like, hey, you're all the way at one percent. Hey,
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and some incredible thing happens, as Egelbert saying this moment
in time, right, these bright uh kind of days. Uh
so it's it's a beautiful time for using, you know,
to be on air watching that unfold, because I mean
that is that is a symphony of chaos.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You either have the highs and the and the swells
when you're on the Atlanta side and watching it work out.
And meanwhile you could you could hear the churning in
the stomachs of all of those Eagle fans and it's
great for business.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Now, I want to throw something different by it. Right,
we've broken down this game from the Eagles perspective, and
what an awful disaster it was. It's the biggest thing
from the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Because they because the Eagles now they also have two
pretty heavyweight games on the road going forwards.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, no, it's it's gonna be difficult, but I want
to throw this by you because this is something that
we talked about last week after the first week of
the NFL the new kickoff role. He said, I said, Look,
this is how it's gonna go. Teams are gonna be
content to kick the ball through the end zone, the
other team taking over at the thirty yard line. Eventually,
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what's gonna happen is the knuckleball kick will be in vogue,
where teams realize that, oh okay, if we can knuckleball
it and maybe get the ball to bounce around, team
is gonna panic have to pick up the ball inside
their ten yard line and we get to them before
they get to the twenty. Right, That's gonna be eventually
where this goes, because right now everybody's nervous. I don't
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want to give up the big return. If you get
by my guys of the twenty yard line, you're into
the end. It's just a kicker standing there all by himself,
and you know how scared out of his mind he is.
I don't even have guys lining up with me. They're
all like all the way up the field. So that's
gonna be where it's at. But over the course of
the season, you're gonna see very slowly teams decide, hey,
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if we can get a good knuckleball kick where it
can bounce around. We can get our guys down there
and they're gonna wind up grabbing the ball. We're gonna
do that. Worst case scenario, it goes into the end
zone and they start from the thirty. But that's gonna
be how it goes. But let me throw this by
you now as well. What could hasten a difference in
the kickoff? Eagles kick the field goal to go up
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by six right, minute forty six left to go. Falcons
have no timeouts. Now, clearly they had no problem getting
down to the end zone and scoring, so it's not
like this absolutely would have affected this specific time. But
seeing this made me think there's gonna be a change
because with no timeouts left, you kick the ball deep
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and decided we're okay giving the Falcons ball the minute
forty five left the thirty yard line NFL minute forty
five no timeouts is plenty of times still got to
move seventy yards though this is a super toe field goal.
But one play you're at midfield, right, one play you're
at midfield. How much is this going to hasten or
or make some teams go? You know what? In this
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situation when we're trying to protect a league late. I
don't want to give up ten twelve yards of field position.
We think we can get this guy before, we can
get the returner before he gets the twenty yard line,
and it's worth the risk. It's worth the risk of
hey potentially could get a big return, but more than
likely we're gonna We're gonna get him before he gets
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to the twenty yard line, because you see the chaos.
As long as you can, as long as you can,
you can keep the field, you can string it out
across the field. That's the one thing you see with
these kickoffs, with everybody lining up so far downfield, it's
a lot easier to keep laying integrity because you're not
you're not running fast, right, You're not you're not running
further down the field, running towards the football. It's a
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lot easier to keep lane integrity. And so you can
string out your ten players across the field and it's
hard to break through. So I wonder if you're gonna
see a lot of teams say, boy, the Eagles really
did the Falcons a favor on that last possession by
kicking it through the end zone, allowing them to start
the thirty yard line. What if they had kicked it
short and you tackle the guy at the eighteen? All right, yeah, okay,
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maybe the Falcons still go down and score. But in
that situation, you're making that team go twelve more yards.
Maybe that team go twelve more yards to the end zone.
So I think that play special teams coaches and an
NFL coach are gonna look at that and go, Okay,
we can't just default to kicking it through the end
zone anymore. We have to start finding something sooner than
just letting them take the ball to the thirty yard line.
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Because now, let's just say it's final two minutes of
a game, you score, a go up by a field goal,
you kick it deep. Are you still gonna be okay
with them starting at the thirty when they just need
a field goal?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So I think this is gonna hasten that development. Because
this is on national television. Everybody got to it. Everybody
saw how easy they got down the field. Hey, let's
do what we can to not make them start, not
give them the ball the thirty yard line because we
think we can save maybe ten yards of field position.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think the biggest thing is, you know, down distance
in your field goal scenario, I agree one hundred percent
because look how many fifty plus yard field goals we've
seen through two weeks of the season, right, It's immense,
and how much of that and it becomes the big
thought piece about how you're running an offense. And it's
not settling. It's still a scoring drive, but it's changing
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the decision making, the play calling and the progressions to
make sure you're to use the old phrasing matriculating the
ball down the field and you extend drives, right, Because
I mean the Eagles had the one scoring drive, what
was it, seventeen plays, seventy yards and like nine and
a half minutes off of clock.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
That's as good as it gets right there.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You just checked all the boxes because you also got
the touchdown as your end result. But I think the
the field goal difference and kicking the ball up, that's
where I think the the chess game really may change quickly.
But field position being part of it, obviously giving up
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a couple of yards, but also looking at the potential
of most kickers can now hit fifty three yards in
their sleep. It's not ten years ago where you had one.
It's like the tight end position. Right, we had that growth,
and all of a sudden there were the guys catching
the ball everywhere in kicking position. It used to be
the same thing. You got Vinitary, you got Tucker as
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he started coming up. You might've had one or two
other guys that you like, Praterer in his heyday or whatever,
because he could bomb him in Otherwise, all right, I'll
take my kicker in fantasy wherever. And most teams were
cycling through guys two or three in a season because
they weren't very good. Now it's a much changed position.
And when you can change up how you're calling your
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two minute offense because you only need thirty yards, it's
a much different complexity to the way games end. Look
the team that we always I always knew this was
going to evolve and it's gonna be a different thing.
And now I like the fact that this could become
more of a strategical thing because the kickoff had been
eh okay, I guarantee you the NFL didn't think about
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this part of it.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Oh wow, this part. But at least this gives you
more drama and there's more of a decision with the
play do you kick because I'll tell you every NFL
play by play and analysts is gonna love this situation.
At the end of game's gonna go, Well, do you
kick it deep in the end zone? Do you try
to make a tackle? And look? I air to the
side of if they run it back for a touchdown,
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they run it back for a touchdown, right like, if
it happens, it happens, But I would air on the
side of. I think every NFL coach would think we
can make that tackle right before the twenty yard line.
We could tackle them sometime between the fifteen and the twenty. Right,
our guys can't run till they touch it, But I
guarantee you we can make that tackle before they get
to the twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
See, I'd like to think that I turned to my
defensive coordinator and say, hey, Vic or insert your favorite
defensive coordinators wherever you're listening, however you're listening, thanks for
being part of the family. And right now you have
the picture of your defensive quarter. Maybe they failed you
in week two. Hey, you guys can defend seventy yards
in less than two minutes, right right.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Right? Why aren't you answering? So I liked it. You know,
look I liked I liked that potential forrinkles. Yeah I didn't,
and I didn't see that coming with this. And now
I'm I'm coming around to the kickoff a little bit. Look,
I still hate the way it looks. It just looks
so it just looks so terrible. Here's everybody lying up,
here's the kicker, and here's the kicker because you because look,
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you know, the kicker is scared out of his mind.
Like I feel like everybody is away from me, Like
if they run through the blocks, like if they get
past the twenty five thirty yard line, it's me. And
then like five guys are bearing down.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Now, can we change the ruld to where that twelfth
guy that can come out to hell help with the kick.
He can actually stay in and try to make a
tackle instead of the kicker. So Graham Gano or any
of these guys have to go sprint to the sideline
so they're not exposed to a big hit.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Kickers, help bring it out there, Kickers, help bring it
out there. They started the sidelines and the coach tells.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You go go right, the invisible the runner off to
the side. Right, You're and I can't really run, So
I'm gonna have this guy run the basis for me
on contact, which never worked because the guy took a
head start every time. But anytime you can add another
wrinkle to the complexity of the game. I mean, it's great,
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right because it's it's all about the big chess matches
and who's pulling the right strings. And the last thing
you wanted it to be was an automatic play, which
is why this exists at all. And while it only
changed in the first week ten percent, I haven't seen
the updated stats through the next round of games in
terms of touchbacks versus not. It now becomes all right,
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and how do we coach it up in our special
team sessions where the guy's not sitting there, you know,
doing trick shots. But now it becomes a hey, can
I get a spin on the ball? Can I do
without adding too much torque to your your hip? Right,
because that's the other question that comes into play. If
suddenly you're gonna kick the ball off differently to try
to do the like you know in the drop zone,
is that suddenly going to do something to your hip
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and all of a sudden, this gut's on ir, Like
I'm worried about the health of the kickers man, not
just getting obliterated in your scenario where we get a
jail break to where he's got to make a tackle
because we were bold and audacious. No, also, I don't
want to get hurt. I am bold and audacious. I
am ready. I am feeling bold and audacious. I got
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the word audacious.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Okay, you got audacious and is shoot, yeah, we did
pretty well. It's pretty it's pretty good. We're doing well.
We're getting our five dollar words in ony night. I mean,
your school is not that great a football, but they
touch a this week. It's okay.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Your quarterback came in the ball in harm's way. Now
a big road show down at Washington's. Yeah, ed, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Got rolled out for the defense doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You're thinking Rose Bowl now, buddy, man, I take it
one game at a time, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's that's it. You go in and go one and
O today. That's the entire mantra of life. I have
always thought that there is a lot of stuff you
could do with this kickoff, and and you just need
a little bit of I don't want to say guts,
but just to just to look because I think I
don't think any NFL coaches there and coaches a safe way.
(12:35):
I don't think anybody looks for the safe way to
do things. They always know that if I do things
a safe way, I'm gonna get fired, Vic Fangio. If
I do things the safe way, like that final drive,
we have all my DB's playing ten yards off every
Falcons wide receiver. Well, I'm gonna get fired, he yelled, Yeah,
go beat us kurb But I just but I just
think it's I think it's time for NFL coaches and
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talk to special teams coaches and said, okay, what can
we do. Let's focus on the now because while where
we say okay, it's so much getting ready for the season,
I don't want this on my plate. Let's just kick
it deep, let's do X, Y and Z. Tell me
what you're working on. But now it's going to become
a focal point because now you're talking about, hey, ten
to twelve yards of field position on every kickoff, and
that's a thing. I mean, I know, I we're okay
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in the thirty, but ten to twelve yards that's a thing.
And that's where most of the tackles are gonna happen.
I mean, and even if the guy breaks through, it's
it's it's such a broken play where you're not gonna
suddenly get a big burst of speed run by people,
and then you're into the You're into the teeth of
the kicker, and that's all you get because this play
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takes longer to develop. It takes you know, regular kickoffs
take longer to develop. You can see the holes where
they are much easier to say, Okay, this is where
I'm going, This is where we set up the return
to go. But this is just chaos because it's so close.
It's not a lot to set up. So I think
it's time to say, okay, let's see how we can
while we can make twelve yards of field position.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yea, I'm all about scrambling it up and shuffling up
a deal. Here's what I need. I need it for
the Panthers. Now they don't get to kick off much.
But we got the Panthers. They're just successful if they
do kickoff.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
But that's way.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But the Giants, I mean, I've got I've got a
couple of candidates where you get to be the guinea
pigs and you start monkeying around with the kickoffs because
I mean they scored touchdowns, they just didn't have a kicker.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Uh, you want a great you want a great kickoff
started So freshman year and junior year of football. So
my first year on the JV actually actually all three years,
but my first year on the JV and my first
year of varsity, I didn't play a lot, right, I
played special teams. Like my first year, I played special teams.
Second year I started JV, I played, I played defensive back.
Now third year I was doing special teams. And I
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was always on the kickoff team because I was good
to get in there and make tackles or I was
great on contained oh's a short tackle, crafty. But yeah,
my team, my team never scored a lot of points.
So there's times where freshman year and junior year I
got a the field one play because punts was weird.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
It was I was.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I wasn't ye game, but I was always on the kickoffs.
I was always on the kickoff tap. But there were
games I was like I got in for one play,
or if we were getting killed, then I got in
and played. I played, you know, at the end of
the games. But there were some games if it was
a close game that was like six nothing, which is
a lot of our games. I got played one play.
You know what, We're kicking off the store. All right,
(15:23):
I get out there, let's go first. Smith there was
he loved me to sleep man. We didn't have any kickoffs,
although dude, there was one play when I was a
get ready almost. This is the second madness to coach
ever got to me playing football, was we were losing
six nothing, losing eight nothing, right, because every nobody kicked
the extra point. This is like in the late eighties
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or in the mid eighties, and we were losing eight nothing,
and we get down there in the final two minutes
and we score a touchdown and we tie the game
with the two point. It's eight in. I'm like, oh
my god, we're all so excited. Also, and I'm on
the sideline talking with my two best friends. Same thing.
Neither of none of us really played a lot, although
they those guys played a little bit more than I did.
And all of a sudden, and I forgot I was
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on the kickoff team. I was just excited, and I
hadn't gotten really in the game because it's like I said,
by junior year, the players were all better anything else
and all of a sudden there were We're out to kick,
and thank goodness, the the referee was talking one of
the coaches because our kicker, goes, coach, we got ten,
and I'm like, oh, and I'm not even going ten
guys on there They go, who's out there? Who we missing?
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And I'm still not thinking that it's me. I'm still going, oh,
ten out there. I'll go, oh crap, it's me, because
I was thinking I'll say all run out. They're like, oh,
I'm on the team and I just run out there
and they're all looking at me like what the hell,
And our defensive coach goes, Jason, you don't know you're
on the kickoff team, Like this guy got it?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I got it?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I got it now again luckily there was a time
out on the field, and the and the and the
coach that I to forget what it was like. The
referee was talking to the coach about time left, whatever
it was. Now, did you go out and blow up
the ball carrier and then create a fumble?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, no, I don't think anything really bad happened on
that play. We wound up tying eight eight, But it
was just I was just when fun he says coach
of missing one. I'm like, oh, I should go out there.
Oh wait, it is me.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I am on the kickoff team. And then you couldn't
find your helmet because it's like the first, you know,
forty five minutes in the game.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I didn't go, didn't do anything. I'm just standing on
the sideline going, do I even need to watch my jersey?
Do I even need to wash my pants? I don't
even need to. Oh, I get to go out for
a play. I made sure, although I do remember, I
always make sure to hit the ground, mate, so I
can get up and look dusty and dirty, like yeah
of course, yeah, yeah yeah. Let's go The Jason Smith
(17:36):
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It's me. Yeah no. The other time a coach got
was when I was offside and the kickoff.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
He was so mad.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So man, coming up next? What Kirk Cousins has in
coming with another quarterback who had a pretty big final
drive of the game on Sunday. That's next right here,
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Speaker 1 (19:08):
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friend Mike Harmon. No reason for this song. We're just
hearing Ice Ice Baby, No of course, Hey Kirk Cousins,
cool as Ice on that final drive.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Absolute bit of parachute pants at all. It's like we're
going back to the early nineties and having a dance party.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
How how.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You know, with retro being so big in the NFL,
how is a team not going back to uniforms from
the nineties. And the pants though, are parachute pants. I
mean you can grab them too easy and get tackling.
But I mean that would be a pretty cool out.
That'd be pretty good. Look right, a bunch of linemen
walking up in parachute pants as a slide side to
side like mc hammer would dance, go side to side
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and go side to side. I mean, they're in style,
So I don't know why nobody has done it. Mary
mc can you call somebody in the NFL and figure
that out? Call Roger Goodell three four five Park Avenue.
I'll give you the phone number I had over. I
can make it happen. All right, cool, very there we go. Okay,
I have parachute pants. I can make it happen. Oh
I wore parachute paratue pants. Or you want a twin
one day? We're so cool. Yeah, I will twin one day. Okay, sure,
past let me know and we'll we'll both wear them, Okay,
(20:08):
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like Don Johnson and Miami Vice. Well just uh is
the anniversary today? Yeah? What forty years ago? Something like that?
Forty five years ago? Miami Vice.
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Speaker 1 (20:45):
We So watching Kirk Cousins on that final drive tonight,
we talked about how he saved his job for the
next month. There was a lot that Kirk Cousins has
in common what we've seen the last couple of weeks
with Aaron Rodgers. And while it's look, it's great to
(21:08):
see them both back obviously the two extremely popular quarterbacks,
especially Aaron Rodgers. When he speaks, whatever he does, people
pay attention to. But watching Aaron Rodgers lead the Jets
to a win yesterday and again, it was amazing because
I've never had that feeling before where I knew, and
we got the ball in the fourth quarter, we're going
down and we're going to score. I don't know how,
but we but but Aaron Rodgers is going to do this,
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and he did, and it was amazing because I've never
had that. I mean maybe for half a season with
farv and O eight and some of Testa Verdi in
ninety eight, like that's it. In all my years of
being a Jets fan, I've never felt that we're going
our quarterback is taking us down and we are going
to score. That's why, That's why I can't believe what
it's like to be a fan of like the Patriots
or the forty nine ers. When it's to show growing up,
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it's like, yeah, we're gonna get down the field.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't know what that feels like. I really don't.
But how did Rogers do it? How did Cousins do it?
Cousins had a really bad first fifty eight minutes, didn't
go downfield, but was the beneficiary of the Eagles playing
really loose on that final drive, which was ridiculously bad.
I don't know what Vic Fangio was thinking. You'd shut
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him down for fifty eight minutes. Now you let him
drive down the field. Easy.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, now you're not attacking, right, you're not gonna bring
it nice And I get it, you know, you don't
want to get nailed by a big play.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
But he's not throwing the ball.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
No, I'm not throwing a d I didn't rope adope
you for two games right against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I get it, good pass rush, whatever. But then another
fifty eight minutes, all right, now Kirk unleash one. Now
I'm gonna throw this football over that mountain. You know what?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You know that back leg you haven't put any pressure
on and pushed the ball downfield. Who need you to
go to the reserves one time?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Like you know he's not doing that, And you still
played so loose, which was a horrible decision by the Eagles.
Again they just want they can't help it being chaos.
And the Jets drive at the end was great job
by Aaron Rodgers doing Aaron Rodgers things, but he was
much more wily veteran. He makes a great throw to
Garrett Wilson for twenty yards where he throws it and
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in a great spot before the dB can turn around,
and Wilson gets like twenty yards. Then in a big
second down plays, he throws a big one, drops one
of the pickle barrel from Mike Williams who makes the
catch over the dB who had not turned around yet,
and the Jets go down and score. Okay, great, great
for the Falcons, Great for the Jets. But the biggest
things I take away and watching both of these games
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is neither quarterback could throw the ball deep right. Kirk
Cousins couldn't throw it deep, and Rogers looked a little scattered,
didn't look like he was cool with holding onto the
football very long. There was one time he got sacked
in the first half where he had the ball, the
rusher came behind him. He stepped up in the pocket
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and making the throw. He looked back to see where
the rusher was twice like you got a I'm going forward,
I'm throwing the football, or I'm gonna tuck it, But
he looked back like to look and say like, Okay,
is a guy being blocked or is a guy gonna
hit me? Quarterbacks don't look behind them, and he still
looked behind him, and that was a big red flare
for me going he's still not mentally where he needs
(24:16):
to be and because nobody does that and coming off
an injury, do I trust myself to or trust's getting
hit in the pocket? And Kirk Cousins the same way
when when the rush got close, when the plays got big,
Kirk Cousins airmailed the ball. He threw it off. He
was off and Rogers couldn't throw it deep. And I
just wonder for both of these guys how much that's
gone from their game, Like eventually, I want to think
(24:37):
that Cousins will be mentally strong enough to be more
accurate on those mid range throws and throw it a
little bit deeper. But Rogers, I'm hoping the same way too,
But I don't know, because I don't know, because Rogers
is more he was, He's much more hips in arm
than he used to be. Because I go back, I'm
watching video from ten years ago, and Rogers is always big. Hey,
(24:58):
I get there, but now he looks much more Jimmy
gar Apollo, who was always hips it like I don't
want to step into a throw because a guy's gonna
hit me. But that's where Rogers is now. He's still
strong enough for those big for those I would say,
those long mid range passes, right, those twenty twenty five
yard passes. But can he really stretch the defense and
throw it thirty five forty yards downfield? I don't know
that he can. I don't know the Kirk Cousins can.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'm pretty sure for what we watched Kirk Cousins, the
only pass that he threw all night that might have
traveled thirty five air yards was the one that he
threw from like the six yard line when he overthrew
the end zone.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Well, the Mooney and the past of Mooney on the
final drive that got them to the forty yard line.
But I think that's about as far as I'm saying
that thirty five to forty. Yeah, like if he didn't
hit the fans on that, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that
had some meat.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
And then if you do the freeze frame, three receivers
had flashed open at the front of the end zone.
You get a picture poison right there. But either way,
the point being as you're saying, I don't know if
that was gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And for a guy like Rogers who went downfield, he
was Rogers is like one of those animals where they say,
what eyes in the front, you're in for the hunt,
eyes on the side, and you're not, you know whatever,
the eyes in the front. You're an animal, You're a hunter, right,
And I always felt like that was Rogers. He was
always looking downfield. He would never wanted to dump it
off to the running back. He was always looking downfield.
(26:18):
But yesterday, especially again and against the forty nine ers,
it was let me find the running back here, let
me get rid of the ball really early. I don't know.
I hope that as the season goes on for both
him and Kirk Cousins that they feel more comfortable and
can launch it downfield. But man, I'll tell you, I
don't know. I don't know, because Kirk Cousins put everything
he could into that throat to Mooney on the big
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game that got them from the thirty five yard line
in deep into Eagles territory on that final drive, and
it felt like that was about as far and as
hard as Kirk Cousins can throw it and that was
across the field about twenty five yards. And I don't know,
like you, if you can't throw it deep like that,
that's gonna all of a sudden, teams are gonna say,
we don't need to guard that deep. We know you're
not even gonna run pack that team. Maybe you run
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one play in a game where you just said, we're
gonna give this play away. We're just gonna throw it
deep just to show you that you know the guy
can and that way, you still have to keep your
defenders back. You can't just you can't just creep up
and be close to the line of scrimmage. But I
don't know. I mean, because Cousins is thirty seven and
Aaron Rodgers is forty, is that part of their game gone?
Or is this something they're gonna get back the season
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goes on. That's the biggest questions I have for both
of these guys, because that's Cousins holding on to his
job if he can do that, and that's Aaron Rodgers
getting the Jets of the playoffs and signing another forty
million dollar contract for next year. Is that being that strong,
being able to throw the ball down? Look, you're both
coming off Achilles injuries, and maybe that's part of it,
but wow, the first two games, like you saw, there
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were no throws more than twenty yards, I think, don't.
I think Aaron Rodgers had one and Cousins had two
and that was it for both of these guys.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, I think a lot of it coming off the injury.
It's at any level of athletics, you know, you're learning
to trust, you know, the body art that failed you,
whether it's a surgery, whether it's I just stepped on
a crack and I sprained an ankle slightly, right, It's
all about getting the trust right.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
If you're a runner.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, many folks that you know, they get injured and
then it's hard to get back to it because you're
not trusting that your leg's gonna respond the same way
you play soccer, lacrosse, whatever else. And certainly for football,
coming off the injuries, these guys are as well long
tenured as they are the number of things they've dealt
with in their careers. You know, the football mortality's certainly.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
There for both of them.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know the want to play, but you're going against
Father time, who you know, I get it. The old
off other times undefeated, but you're trying to be like
Brady was, like some of these guys that are extending
their careers. Nobody's Lebron James. He's a cyborg. But it's
just that idea of all right, I've got another year,
but I've got to change up how my game is going.
(28:56):
Kirk Cousins, you go back and do it. Just a
montage to the throws. He's not throwing off his back
leg at all.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
There's not there.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So it is all about arms and hips and how
much he's going to be able to get the ball downfield.
For Aaron Rodgers, and I think part of it is
I don't want to get tackled. Right, look at look
at Joe Mixon in that Bears game yesterday. Right, wasn't
having the same type of impact that he did Week one,
But what happened He got loose a little bit and
you got the hip drop tackle. Now it's a question
of how long he's gone for the season. Like that
(29:25):
stuff has a memory, right that in terms of how
you're playing and how you're going through And you'd like
to think, hey, they'll get past it mentally, but you're
battling both the physicality of it and getting the muscles
right and getting the strength back to where you're truly confident.
But also you know, the timing exposure. You know your
point about Rogers kind of looking for where the rush
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is coming. I mean, Kirk Cousins got the greatest gift
of all. He's immobile and he's not using his back
leg and you bring no heat at all and let
him just carve you up like that just is unconscionable
in terms of defensive game plan for that final drive.
But yeah, it's all about buying time for you that
it's you know, it's the Super Bowl, hope and you
(30:08):
going down to Bourbon Street and collecting beads with the
Jets fans, or for Kirk Cousins, I mean, same thing.
Great expectations for the year, right, how many tea how
many people picked them not only win the division but
make a rush towards the NFC title game based on
the strength of that roster, and a lot of it
was banking on Kirk Cousins to be one hundred percent.
(30:29):
Well it wasn't anywhere close to it, but for one
drive he was so one in one and you.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Move forward, exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down
the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
Love from the Tireck dot Com studios. Speaking of moving forward,
we move forward right now to special delivery Steve de Sager,
who's got everything about what's trending in the wide world
of sports. And this after Steve de Sager was flagged
for an unnecessary celebration following his last update. Steve was
(31:00):
that celebration with London.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
By the way, in the final two minutes for Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
He did like a shooting thing. He was like shooting
eagles in the sky. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
At first it was like arms out, like expecting to
hear more noise from Philly and then yeah, I don't
know the birds reference they can get because aren't falcons.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Well, the thing is he went in the he went
into the the phone booth, pretended to be tippy hedron
the birds. He put his hands up all that stuff.
It was a whole big thing. It was all performance
are It was like get them wow, blades of glory.
When when Will Arnett says we do a whole a JFK.
Maryland Roe thing, it'll make sense when you see it.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Just let it crash into the phone. But listen, things
can't take care of themselves. By the way, this is
a Hitchcock reference.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Kids.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Check it out sometime. We do have plenty of football
to discuss in a minute. After the Falcons one point
win tonight, but everything is just final in the world
of baseball, and the White Sox have won again. I
told you they cannot be contained.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Break them up.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
San Diego over Houston three to one. You darbished the
pitcher with six scoreless innings. Houston's four game winning streak ends.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Notable was killing Houston to score runs tonight. Couldn't score
one run, couldn't get you darms a tip off any
pitches like it was a World Series.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
The Mexican tipping off great shape. You don't have to
worry about anyone else. With the Braves now with under
two weeks to go.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And the Diamondbacks lost again, eg climbing back to the
in the division.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
The Diamondbacks are six back of the Dodgers now, so
forget that as far as the NL West crown.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But the Padres Luis.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Arrias, who might win another batting title, actually struck out
in San Diego tonight.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That ends his streak.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Of one hundred and forty one played appearances in a
row without a strikeout, the longest in twenty years, and
in fact, in the last forty seasons, the longest set
streak belonged to the great Tony Gwynn himself, who went
one hundred and seventy played appearances without striking out during
the nineteen ninety five season.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What what team will be on next year? Because every
year he wins a batting title and gets traded, And
where's he heading next year and gets an All Star nod? Yeah,
but we can't use it row here, we can't use them.
We're moving on.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Padres, Marlins, twins Milwaukee with a win, Colorado beat Arizona
with a run, bottom of the ninth, Detroit and Cleveland
with wins. Dodgers won nine to nothing at Atlanta, and
the Braves are now game back of the Mets for
the final NL wild Card because New York in ten
innings beat Washington two to one. Another good start from
Sean Maniah, no decision but seven good innings and Starling
(33:23):
Marte with the game winning single.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Talk about a game winner.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The Atlanta Falcons on a pass with thirty seconds to go,
or so got the out of nowhere win at Philadelphia
this evening, twenty two to twenty one. Kirk Cousins two
touchdown passes in the second half. He went twenty of
twenty nine two hundred and forty one yards Bjon Robinson
on fourteen carries ninety seven yards. The Eagles late first
quarter went forward on fourth and four inside the Atlanta
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ten and threw incomplete no points there, and Saquon Barkley,
with about a minute forty five left in the game,
dropped a screen pass that could have cemented things. Instead,
they settled for a short field goal a six point lead,
and very shortly thereafter, Cousins and company took the game
twenty two twenty one Falcons the final back to you.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Thank you, Steve O. Coming up next, we get back
into the end of this game and all the drama.
One thing I really don't want to see anymore in
any NFL game. We saw it a couple of times tonight.
What is it that's next? Right here? Jason and Mike
Fox do boom boom boom boom p do winn in
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a weir ware were in our what p doo boom
boom doom doom doom b doom boom. I could be
the drums. I could be like pitch perfect and I
do this acappella. You're just there in the background. Doom doom, doom, doom, doom, doom,
doo doo doo doo doop do. We'll get you and
Anna Kendrick to do it.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Put doom boom boom boom boom, poo dump dump bump,
dump dump bum.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mine Carmen. We'll get into the chaos of the
Eagles coming up in about ten minutes, because Wow, way
to hear from Nick Sirianni as they give this game
to the Falcons, they say, here, we don't want to
just take it. We're gonna hand it to you. This
is what we're gonna do, is just handing this to you.
Garrett the microphone for a minute as people ask him questions.
(35:19):
There are some things to talk about here that are
just insane. I'm telling the Eagles fans aren't going to
sleep tonight. One thing we saw from tonight's game I
really could do without. In the NF the NFL's got
to say, Okay, we gotta be hard and fast about
stuff and then move on. First quarter of the game,
Jalen hurts big run for a first down, spikes the ball,
(35:39):
gets a delay of game penalty, which is just stupid. Really,
we we celebrate so many things and he spikes the ball.
You say, oh, we're giving you a delay of game penalty,
But how come you can have.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
An interception and as a group run ninety yards the
way you take a picture. In the picture standing there,
there's snow angels. Whatever the hell you do, that's gone.
That's an official who is just personally affronted because I
go to get the ball and the guy spikes it,
and I'm mad. It's a it's a it's an emotional
penalty by a referee who decides I'm gonna interpret the
(36:11):
rules that way. Look, players celebrate everything, right, let them celebrate.
I thought that penalty was ridiculously stupid. And the NFL's
got to say, okay, guy spikes them, let me spike
the ball. Okay, don't get upset. The guy's not doing
it to you. The guy's saying, screw you, referee, I'm
spiking the ball.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
In your face.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
But but it's if we're gonna do this right, it's
like you ask for consistency, right, You've coached softball soccer.
All you want is consistency from from the officials out there. Right,
same same thing here. If we're if we're gonna call it,
let's call it. It's it's like the the technical fall
Caitlin Clark punching the stanchion. If we're gonna call that,
let's be consistent. Oh yeah, I got no problem with
(36:48):
it being called, but make sure you're calling it and
any complaining any of the other stuff that other players
are doing. In this case, if we're going to take
the next snap is going to be delayed three minutes,
and I get it, you got TV time outs, but
you know, on the change possession, you don't necessarily go
to a TV timeout and then you get to do
(37:09):
all the histrionics, all of the celebration. Hey hey, eleventh guy,
you didn't get over here. Come on, we're not done yet,
and that there's no penalty for any of that. But
this constitutes a five yard Yeah, let's be consistent.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Now here's the other part of it. Later on in
the game, this rears its head in a bigger way.
Drake London catches the touchdown pass with thirty five seconds
left to go and the Falcons tie the game, extra
points gonna put them up, except he decided I wanted
to do a celebration where it looks like I'm shooting
eagles out of the sky. And as a result, well,
(37:43):
that extra point became a near fifty yard extra point on.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Sport with Mike con dot in Atlanta number five as
a fifteen yard penalty.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I Rembero of Pride, the extra point is going to
end up being forty eight yards for young Wait kup
the kick.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
There's a little short, but it is good.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Atlanta's taking the league with thirty four seconds left on
Young way Kers point.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
After Falcons Radio Network on the call. So I like
the fact they call the penalty. If you're gonna call
Jalen Hurts for that ridiculous penalty early, it makes sense
you do it there. But I I'm okay with this
one even more because I want to tell players, Okay, dude,
don't don't do anything with guns. Okay, just don't do it.
Do whatever said take that. Don't do anything with guns.
(38:30):
That's just stupid, right Like Drake Lennon, you gotta be
smarter than that. Don't do anything.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Like those are wrong, right, I mean, they pretty much
let you do whatever the hell you want.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
But gunspecial, what are you're doing?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Like what?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's stupid. So I'm glad they called that penalty because
you needed to, especially because if you did it for
the Eagles early. But this is what the NFL needs.
Do they need to just come out. It's very simple, guys,
don't do anything with guns. Everything else will kind of
let go as long as you don't go crazy and
and and get to the point where you're really delaying
the game or you're embarrassing the other team. Only two
hip thrusts, right, two have threats, don't use the ball
(39:07):
as a proper right whatever. But we'll let a lot
of stuff go. Just don't use guns. We won't call
it spike in the football. We won't call it on this.
That's how we'll do it. And that should be a
pretty easy thing the NFL can tell the player. Seems
pretty easy. Yeah, don't do guns. Guns, don't do guns.
Why would you do that? That's stupid.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Don't do guns now, I mean because of it, because
it was stupid. I really hoped that Young Wayku missed
that pat Oh. I was really hoping it was going
to hit you know, right, they just bounce out.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I want him to make it because in one of
my big leagues, I was going against Drake London and
if Drake London had overtime, he might have beat me.
So I wanted you were fearful about wanted that extra point.
I was good to London, caught the touch. I was like, no,
I can't have any more. I can't have any more.
I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Coming up next, we break down the ridiculousness that is
the Philadelphia Eagles and why they are always one step
away from absolute and total chaos. Jason and Mike Fox
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(00:52):
one point victory over the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles, Eagles
snatch de feet from the jaws of victory.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, less than one percent according to Steve Dezeger and
next Gens.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So I always how much of that really is? Can
you really? Can you really just subscribe to Oh, they
had a one percent chance to win this game at
that point, Yeah, but that's that one point, but then
it changes to like twenty five percent after drops the
pass or when he gets I mean it changes, so
it's not like, hey, you're all the way at one percent. Hey,
(01:24):
and some incredible thing happens, as Egelbert saying this moment
in time, right, these bright uh kind of days. Uh
so it's it's a beautiful time for using, you know,
to be on air watching that unfold, because I mean
that is that is a symphony of chaos.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You either have the highs and the and the swells
when you're on the Atlanta side and watching it work out.
And meanwhile you could you could hear the churning in
the stomachs of all of those Eagle fans and it's
great for business.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Now, I want to throw something different by it. Right,
we've broken down this game from the Eagles perspective, and
what an awful disaster it was. It's the biggest thing
from the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Because they because the Eagles now they also have two
pretty heavyweight games on the road going forwards.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, no, it's it's gonna be difficult, but I want
to throw this by you because this is something that
we talked about last week after the first week of
the NFL the new kickoff role. He said, I said, Look,
this is how it's gonna go. Teams are gonna be
content to kick the ball through the end zone, the
other team taking over at the thirty yard line. Eventually,
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what's gonna happen is the knuckleball kick will be in vogue,
where teams realize that, oh okay, if we can knuckleball
it and maybe get the ball to bounce around, team
is gonna panic have to pick up the ball inside
their ten yard line and we get to them before
they get to the twenty. Right, That's gonna be eventually
where this goes, because right now everybody's nervous. I don't
(02:55):
want to give up the big return. If you get
by my guys of the twenty yard line, you're into
the end. It's just a kicker standing there all by himself,
and you know how scared out of his mind he is.
I don't even have guys lining up with me. They're
all like all the way up the field. So that's
gonna be where it's at. But over the course of
the season, you're gonna see very slowly teams decide, hey,
(03:15):
if we can get a good knuckleball kick where it
can bounce around. We can get our guys down there
and they're gonna wind up grabbing the ball. We're gonna
do that. Worst case scenario, it goes into the end
zone and they start from the thirty. But that's gonna
be how it goes. But let me throw this by
you now as well. What could hasten a difference in
the kickoff? Eagles kick the field goal to go up
(03:36):
by six right, minute forty six left to go. Falcons
have no timeouts. Now, clearly they had no problem getting
down to the end zone and scoring, so it's not
like this absolutely would have affected this specific time. But
seeing this made me think there's gonna be a change
because with no timeouts left, you kick the ball deep
(03:57):
and decided we're okay giving the Falcons ball the minute
forty five left the thirty yard line NFL minute forty
five no timeouts is plenty of times still got to
move seventy yards though this is a super toe field goal.
But one play you're at midfield, right, one play you're
at midfield. How much is this going to hasten or
or make some teams go? You know what? In this
(04:18):
situation when we're trying to protect a league late. I
don't want to give up ten twelve yards of field position.
We think we can get this guy before, we can
get the returner before he gets the twenty yard line,
and it's worth the risk. It's worth the risk of
hey potentially could get a big return, but more than
likely we're gonna We're gonna get him before he gets
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to the twenty yard line, because you see the chaos.
As long as you can, as long as you can,
you can keep the field, you can string it out
across the field. That's the one thing you see with
these kickoffs, with everybody lining up so far downfield, it's
a lot easier to keep laying integrity because you're not
you're not running fast, right, You're not you're not running
further down the field, running towards the football. It's a
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lot easier to keep lane integrity. And so you can
string out your ten players across the field and it's
hard to break through. So I wonder if you're gonna
see a lot of teams say, boy, the Eagles really
did the Falcons a favor on that last possession by
kicking it through the end zone, allowing them to start
the thirty yard line. What if they had kicked it
short and you tackle the guy at the eighteen? All right, yeah, okay,
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maybe the Falcons still go down and score. But in
that situation, you're making that team go twelve more yards.
Maybe that team go twelve more yards to the end zone.
So I think that play special teams coaches and an
NFL coach are gonna look at that and go, Okay,
we can't just default to kicking it through the end
zone anymore. We have to start finding something sooner than
just letting them take the ball to the thirty yard line.
(05:45):
Because now, let's just say it's final two minutes of
a game, you score, a go up by a field goal,
you kick it deep. Are you still gonna be okay
with them starting at the thirty when they just need
a field goal?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So I think this is gonna hasten that development. Because
this is on national television. Everybody got to it. Everybody
saw how easy they got down the field. Hey, let's
do what we can to not make them start, not
give them the ball the thirty yard line because we
think we can save maybe ten yards of field position.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think the biggest thing is, you know, down distance
in your field goal scenario, I agree one hundred percent
because look how many fifty plus yard field goals we've
seen through two weeks of the season, right, It's immense,
and how much of that and it becomes the big
thought piece about how you're running an offense. And it's
not settling. It's still a scoring drive, but it's changing
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the decision making, the play calling and the progressions to
make sure you're to use the old phrasing matriculating the
ball down the field and you extend drives, right, Because
I mean the Eagles had the one scoring drive, what
was it, seventeen plays, seventy yards and like nine and
a half minutes off of clock.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
That's as good as it gets right there.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You just checked all the boxes because you also got
the touchdown as your end result. But I think the
the field goal difference and kicking the ball up, that's
where I think the the chess game really may change quickly.
But field position being part of it, obviously giving up
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a couple of yards, but also looking at the potential
of most kickers can now hit fifty three yards in
their sleep. It's not ten years ago where you had one.
It's like the tight end position. Right, we had that growth,
and all of a sudden there were the guys catching
the ball everywhere in kicking position. It used to be
the same thing. You got Vinitary, you got Tucker as
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he started coming up. You might've had one or two
other guys that you like, Praterer in his heyday or whatever,
because he could bomb him in Otherwise, all right, I'll
take my kicker in fantasy wherever. And most teams were
cycling through guys two or three in a season because
they weren't very good. Now it's a much changed position.
And when you can change up how you're calling your
(07:59):
two minute offense because you only need thirty yards, it's
a much different complexity to the way games end. Look
the team that we always I always knew this was
going to evolve and it's gonna be a different thing.
And now I like the fact that this could become
more of a strategical thing because the kickoff had been
eh okay, I guarantee you the NFL didn't think about
(08:20):
this part of it.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Oh wow, this part. But at least this gives you
more drama and there's more of a decision with the
play do you kick because I'll tell you every NFL
play by play and analysts is gonna love this situation.
At the end of game's gonna go, Well, do you
kick it deep in the end zone? Do you try
to make a tackle? And look? I air to the
side of if they run it back for a touchdown,
(08:41):
they run it back for a touchdown, right like, if
it happens, it happens, But I would air on the
side of. I think every NFL coach would think we
can make that tackle right before the twenty yard line.
We could tackle them sometime between the fifteen and the twenty. Right,
our guys can't run till they touch it, But I
guarantee you we can make that tackle before they get
to the twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
See, I'd like to think that I turned to my
defensive coordinator and say, hey, Vic or insert your favorite
defensive coordinators wherever you're listening, however you're listening, thanks for
being part of the family. And right now you have
the picture of your defensive quarter. Maybe they failed you
in week two. Hey, you guys can defend seventy yards
in less than two minutes, right right.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Right? Why aren't you answering? So I liked it. You know,
look I liked I liked that potential forrinkles. Yeah I didn't,
and I didn't see that coming with this. And now
I'm I'm coming around to the kickoff a little bit. Look,
I still hate the way it looks. It just looks
so it just looks so terrible. Here's everybody lying up,
here's the kicker, and here's the kicker because you because look,
(09:44):
you know, the kicker is scared out of his mind.
Like I feel like everybody is away from me, Like
if they run through the blocks, like if they get
past the twenty five thirty yard line, it's me. And
then like five guys are bearing down.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Now, can we change the ruld to where that twelfth
guy that can come out to hell help with the kick.
He can actually stay in and try to make a
tackle instead of the kicker. So Graham Gano or any
of these guys have to go sprint to the sideline
so they're not exposed to a big hit.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Kickers, help bring it out there, Kickers, help bring it
out there. They started the sidelines and the coach tells.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You go go right, the invisible the runner off to
the side. Right, You're and I can't really run, So
I'm gonna have this guy run the basis for me
on contact, which never worked because the guy took a
head start every time. But anytime you can add another
wrinkle to the complexity of the game. I mean, it's great,
(10:37):
right because it's it's all about the big chess matches
and who's pulling the right strings. And the last thing
you wanted it to be was an automatic play, which
is why this exists at all. And while it only
changed in the first week ten percent, I haven't seen
the updated stats through the next round of games in
terms of touchbacks versus not. It now becomes all right,
(11:00):
and how do we coach it up in our special
team sessions where the guy's not sitting there, you know,
doing trick shots. But now it becomes a hey, can
I get a spin on the ball? Can I do
without adding too much torque to your your hip? Right,
because that's the other question that comes into play. If
suddenly you're gonna kick the ball off differently to try
to do the like you know in the drop zone,
is that suddenly going to do something to your hip
(11:21):
and all of a sudden, this gut's on ir, Like
I'm worried about the health of the kickers man, not
just getting obliterated in your scenario where we get a
jail break to where he's got to make a tackle
because we were bold and audacious. No, also, I don't
want to get hurt. I am bold and audacious. I
am ready. I am feeling bold and audacious. I got
(11:42):
the word audacious.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Okay, you got audacious and is shoot, yeah, we did
pretty well. It's pretty it's pretty good. We're doing well.
We're getting our five dollar words in ony night. I mean,
your school is not that great a football, but they
touch a this week. It's okay.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Your quarterback came in the ball in harm's way. Now
a big road show down at Washington's. Yeah, ed, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Got rolled out for the defense doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You're thinking Rose Bowl now, buddy, man, I take it
one game at a time, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's that's it. You go in and go one and
O today. That's the entire mantra of life. I have
always thought that there is a lot of stuff you
could do with this kickoff, and and you just need
a little bit of I don't want to say guts,
but just to just to look because I think I
don't think any NFL coaches there and coaches a safe way.
(12:35):
I don't think anybody looks for the safe way to
do things. They always know that if I do things
a safe way, I'm gonna get fired, Vic Fangio. If
I do things the safe way, like that final drive,
we have all my DB's playing ten yards off every
Falcons wide receiver. Well, I'm gonna get fired, he yelled, Yeah,
go beat us kurb But I just but I just
think it's I think it's time for NFL coaches and
(12:56):
talk to special teams coaches and said, okay, what can
we do. Let's focus on the now because while where
we say okay, it's so much getting ready for the season,
I don't want this on my plate. Let's just kick
it deep, let's do X, Y and Z. Tell me
what you're working on. But now it's going to become
a focal point because now you're talking about, hey, ten
to twelve yards of field position on every kickoff, and
that's a thing. I mean, I know, I we're okay
(13:16):
in the thirty, but ten to twelve yards that's a thing.
And that's where most of the tackles are gonna happen.
I mean, and even if the guy breaks through, it's
it's it's such a broken play where you're not gonna
suddenly get a big burst of speed run by people,
and then you're into the You're into the teeth of
the kicker, and that's all you get because this play
(13:38):
takes longer to develop. It takes you know, regular kickoffs
take longer to develop. You can see the holes where
they are much easier to say, Okay, this is where
I'm going, This is where we set up the return
to go. But this is just chaos because it's so close.
It's not a lot to set up. So I think
it's time to say, okay, let's see how we can
while we can make twelve yards of field position.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yea, I'm all about scrambling it up and shuffling up
a deal. Here's what I need. I need it for
the Panthers. Now they don't get to kick off much.
But we got the Panthers. They're just successful if they
do kickoff.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
But that's way.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But the Giants, I mean, I've got I've got a
couple of candidates where you get to be the guinea
pigs and you start monkeying around with the kickoffs because
I mean they scored touchdowns, they just didn't have a kicker.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Uh, you want a great you want a great kickoff
started So freshman year and junior year of football. So
my first year on the JV actually actually all three years,
but my first year on the JV and my first
year of varsity, I didn't play a lot, right, I
played special teams. Like my first year, I played special teams.
Second year I started JV, I played, I played defensive back.
Now third year I was doing special teams. And I
(14:45):
was always on the kickoff team because I was good
to get in there and make tackles or I was
great on contained oh's a short tackle, crafty. But yeah,
my team, my team never scored a lot of points.
So there's times where freshman year and junior year I
got a the field one play because punts was weird.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
It was I was.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I wasn't ye game, but I was always on the kickoffs.
I was always on the kickoff tap. But there were
games I was like I got in for one play,
or if we were getting killed, then I got in
and played. I played, you know, at the end of
the games. But there were some games if it was
a close game that was like six nothing, which is
a lot of our games. I got played one play.
You know what, We're kicking off the store. All right,
(15:23):
I get out there, let's go first. Smith there was
he loved me to sleep man. We didn't have any kickoffs,
although dude, there was one play when I was a
get ready almost. This is the second madness to coach
ever got to me playing football, was we were losing
six nothing, losing eight nothing, right, because every nobody kicked
the extra point. This is like in the late eighties
(15:44):
or in the mid eighties, and we were losing eight nothing,
and we get down there in the final two minutes
and we score a touchdown and we tie the game
with the two point. It's eight in. I'm like, oh
my god, we're all so excited. Also, and I'm on
the sideline talking with my two best friends. Same thing.
Neither of none of us really played a lot, although
they those guys played a little bit more than I did.
And all of a sudden, and I forgot I was
(16:04):
on the kickoff team. I was just excited, and I
hadn't gotten really in the game because it's like I said,
by junior year, the players were all better anything else
and all of a sudden there were We're out to kick,
and thank goodness, the the referee was talking one of
the coaches because our kicker, goes, coach, we got ten,
and I'm like, oh, and I'm not even going ten
guys on there They go, who's out there? Who we missing?
(16:26):
And I'm still not thinking that it's me. I'm still going, oh,
ten out there. I'll go, oh crap, it's me, because
I was thinking I'll say all run out. They're like, oh,
I'm on the team and I just run out there
and they're all looking at me like what the hell,
And our defensive coach goes, Jason, you don't know you're
on the kickoff team, Like this guy got it?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I got it?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I got it now again luckily there was a time
out on the field, and the and the and the
coach that I to forget what it was like. The
referee was talking to the coach about time left, whatever
it was. Now, did you go out and blow up
the ball carrier and then create a fumble?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, no, I don't think anything really bad happened on
that play. We wound up tying eight eight, But it
was just I was just when fun he says coach
of missing one. I'm like, oh, I should go out there.
Oh wait, it is me.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I am on the kickoff team. And then you couldn't
find your helmet because it's like the first, you know,
forty five minutes in the game.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I didn't go, didn't do anything. I'm just standing on
the sideline going, do I even need to watch my jersey?
Do I even need to wash my pants? I don't
even need to. Oh, I get to go out for
a play. I made sure, although I do remember, I
always make sure to hit the ground, mate, so I
can get up and look dusty and dirty, like yeah
of course, yeah, yeah yeah. Let's go The Jason Smith
(17:36):
Show with Mike Carbon live from the tirereg dot Com Studios.
It's me. Yeah no. The other time a coach got
was when I was offside and the kickoff.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
He was so mad.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So man, coming up next? What Kirk Cousins has in
coming with another quarterback who had a pretty big final
drive of the game on Sunday. That's next right here,
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Speaker 1 (19:08):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. No reason for this song. We're just
hearing Ice Ice Baby, No of course, Hey Kirk Cousins,
cool as Ice on that final drive.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Absolute bit of parachute pants at all. It's like we're
going back to the early nineties and having a dance party.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
How how.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You know, with retro being so big in the NFL,
how is a team not going back to uniforms from
the nineties. And the pants though, are parachute pants. I
mean you can grab them too easy and get tackling.
But I mean that would be a pretty cool out.
That'd be pretty good. Look right, a bunch of linemen
walking up in parachute pants as a slide side to
side like mc hammer would dance, go side to side
(19:46):
and go side to side. I mean, they're in style,
So I don't know why nobody has done it. Mary
mc can you call somebody in the NFL and figure
that out? Call Roger Goodell three four five Park Avenue.
I'll give you the phone number I had over. I
can make it happen. All right, cool, very there we go. Okay,
I have parachute pants. I can make it happen. Oh
I wore parachute paratue pants. Or you want a twin
one day? We're so cool. Yeah, I will twin one day. Okay, sure,
past let me know and we'll we'll both wear them, Okay,
(20:08):
all right, and I won't shave so I can be
like Don Johnson and Miami Vice. Well just uh is
the anniversary today? Yeah? What forty years ago? Something like that?
Forty five years ago? Miami Vice.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Initial episode, right, was in the air tonight, do bita
do boo boo boo? Burrel wear ward went in a
wownd No, that was the that was the guitar going
Burrel wear wear. We're in a real wear.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
We So watching Kirk Cousins on that final drive tonight,
we talked about how he saved his job for the
next month. There was a lot that Kirk Cousins has
in common what we've seen the last couple of weeks
with Aaron Rodgers. And while it's look, it's great to
(21:08):
see them both back obviously the two extremely popular quarterbacks,
especially Aaron Rodgers. When he speaks, whatever he does, people
pay attention to. But watching Aaron Rodgers lead the Jets
to a win yesterday and again, it was amazing because
I've never had that feeling before where I knew, and
we got the ball in the fourth quarter, we're going
down and we're going to score. I don't know how,
but we but but Aaron Rodgers is going to do this,
(21:30):
and he did, and it was amazing because I've never
had that. I mean maybe for half a season with
farv and O eight and some of Testa Verdi in
ninety eight, like that's it. In all my years of
being a Jets fan, I've never felt that we're going
our quarterback is taking us down and we are going
to score. That's why, That's why I can't believe what
it's like to be a fan of like the Patriots
or the forty nine ers. When it's to show growing up,
(21:52):
it's like, yeah, we're gonna get down the field.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't know what that feels like. I really don't.
But how did Rogers do it? How did Cousins do it?
Cousins had a really bad first fifty eight minutes, didn't
go downfield, but was the beneficiary of the Eagles playing
really loose on that final drive, which was ridiculously bad.
I don't know what Vic Fangio was thinking. You'd shut
(22:17):
him down for fifty eight minutes. Now you let him
drive down the field. Easy.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, now you're not attacking, right, you're not gonna bring
it nice And I get it, you know, you don't
want to get nailed by a big play.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
But he's not throwing the ball.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
No, I'm not throwing a d I didn't rope adope
you for two games right against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I get it, good pass rush, whatever. But then another
fifty eight minutes, all right, now Kirk unleash one. Now
I'm gonna throw this football over that mountain. You know what?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You know that back leg you haven't put any pressure
on and pushed the ball downfield. Who need you to
go to the reserves one time?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Like you know he's not doing that, And you still
played so loose, which was a horrible decision by the Eagles.
Again they just want they can't help it being chaos.
And the Jets drive at the end was great job
by Aaron Rodgers doing Aaron Rodgers things, but he was
much more wily veteran. He makes a great throw to
Garrett Wilson for twenty yards where he throws it and
(23:12):
in a great spot before the dB can turn around,
and Wilson gets like twenty yards. Then in a big
second down plays, he throws a big one, drops one
of the pickle barrel from Mike Williams who makes the
catch over the dB who had not turned around yet,
and the Jets go down and score. Okay, great, great
for the Falcons, Great for the Jets. But the biggest
things I take away and watching both of these games
(23:33):
is neither quarterback could throw the ball deep right. Kirk
Cousins couldn't throw it deep, and Rogers looked a little scattered,
didn't look like he was cool with holding onto the
football very long. There was one time he got sacked
in the first half where he had the ball, the
rusher came behind him. He stepped up in the pocket
(23:54):
and making the throw. He looked back to see where
the rusher was twice like you got a I'm going forward,
I'm throwing the football, or I'm gonna tuck it, But
he looked back like to look and say like, Okay,
is a guy being blocked or is a guy gonna
hit me? Quarterbacks don't look behind them, and he still
looked behind him, and that was a big red flare
for me going he's still not mentally where he needs
(24:16):
to be and because nobody does that and coming off
an injury, do I trust myself to or trust's getting
hit in the pocket? And Kirk Cousins the same way
when when the rush got close, when the plays got big,
Kirk Cousins airmailed the ball. He threw it off. He
was off and Rogers couldn't throw it deep. And I
just wonder for both of these guys how much that's
gone from their game, Like eventually, I want to think
(24:37):
that Cousins will be mentally strong enough to be more
accurate on those mid range throws and throw it a
little bit deeper. But Rogers, I'm hoping the same way too,
But I don't know, because I don't know, because Rogers
is more he was, He's much more hips in arm
than he used to be. Because I go back, I'm
watching video from ten years ago, and Rogers is always big. Hey,
(24:58):
I get there, but now he looks much more Jimmy
gar Apollo, who was always hips it like I don't
want to step into a throw because a guy's gonna
hit me. But that's where Rogers is now. He's still
strong enough for those big for those I would say,
those long mid range passes, right, those twenty twenty five
yard passes. But can he really stretch the defense and
throw it thirty five forty yards downfield? I don't know
that he can. I don't know the Kirk Cousins can.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'm pretty sure for what we watched Kirk Cousins, the
only pass that he threw all night that might have
traveled thirty five air yards was the one that he
threw from like the six yard line when he overthrew
the end zone.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Well, the Mooney and the past of Mooney on the
final drive that got them to the forty yard line.
But I think that's about as far as I'm saying
that thirty five to forty. Yeah, like if he didn't
hit the fans on that, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that
had some meat.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
And then if you do the freeze frame, three receivers
had flashed open at the front of the end zone.
You get a picture poison right there. But either way,
the point being as you're saying, I don't know if
that was gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And for a guy like Rogers who went downfield, he
was Rogers is like one of those animals where they say,
what eyes in the front, you're in for the hunt,
eyes on the side, and you're not, you know whatever,
the eyes in the front. You're an animal, You're a hunter, right,
And I always felt like that was Rogers. He was
always looking downfield. He would never wanted to dump it
off to the running back. He was always looking downfield.
(26:18):
But yesterday, especially again and against the forty nine ers,
it was let me find the running back here, let
me get rid of the ball really early. I don't know.
I hope that as the season goes on for both
him and Kirk Cousins that they feel more comfortable and
can launch it downfield. But man, I'll tell you, I
don't know. I don't know, because Kirk Cousins put everything
he could into that throat to Mooney on the big
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game that got them from the thirty five yard line
in deep into Eagles territory on that final drive, and
it felt like that was about as far and as
hard as Kirk Cousins can throw it and that was
across the field about twenty five yards. And I don't know,
like you, if you can't throw it deep like that,
that's gonna all of a sudden, teams are gonna say,
we don't need to guard that deep. We know you're
not even gonna run pack that team. Maybe you run
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one play in a game where you just said, we're
gonna give this play away. We're just gonna throw it
deep just to show you that you know the guy
can and that way, you still have to keep your
defenders back. You can't just you can't just creep up
and be close to the line of scrimmage. But I
don't know. I mean, because Cousins is thirty seven and
Aaron Rodgers is forty, is that part of their game gone?
Or is this something they're gonna get back the season
(27:23):
goes on. That's the biggest questions I have for both
of these guys, because that's Cousins holding on to his
job if he can do that, and that's Aaron Rodgers
getting the Jets of the playoffs and signing another forty
million dollar contract for next year. Is that being that strong,
being able to throw the ball down? Look, you're both
coming off Achilles injuries, and maybe that's part of it,
but wow, the first two games, like you saw, there
(27:44):
were no throws more than twenty yards, I think, don't.
I think Aaron Rodgers had one and Cousins had two
and that was it for both of these guys.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, I think a lot of it coming off the injury.
It's at any level of athletics, you know, you're learning
to trust, you know, the body art that failed you,
whether it's a surgery, whether it's I just stepped on
a crack and I sprained an ankle slightly, right, It's
all about getting the trust right.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
If you're a runner.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, many folks that you know, they get injured and
then it's hard to get back to it because you're
not trusting that your leg's gonna respond the same way
you play soccer, lacrosse, whatever else. And certainly for football,
coming off the injuries, these guys are as well long
tenured as they are the number of things they've dealt
with in their careers. You know, the football mortality's certainly.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
There for both of them.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know the want to play, but you're going against
Father time, who you know, I get it. The old
off other times undefeated, but you're trying to be like
Brady was, like some of these guys that are extending
their careers. Nobody's Lebron James. He's a cyborg. But it's
just that idea of all right, I've got another year,
but I've got to change up how my game is going.
(28:56):
Kirk Cousins, you go back and do it. Just a
montage to the throws. He's not throwing off his back
leg at all.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
There's not there.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So it is all about arms and hips and how
much he's going to be able to get the ball downfield.
For Aaron Rodgers, and I think part of it is
I don't want to get tackled. Right, look at look
at Joe Mixon in that Bears game yesterday. Right, wasn't
having the same type of impact that he did Week one,
But what happened He got loose a little bit and
you got the hip drop tackle. Now it's a question
of how long he's gone for the season. Like that
(29:25):
stuff has a memory, right that in terms of how
you're playing and how you're going through And you'd like
to think, hey, they'll get past it mentally, but you're
battling both the physicality of it and getting the muscles
right and getting the strength back to where you're truly confident.
But also you know, the timing exposure. You know your
point about Rogers kind of looking for where the rush
(29:47):
is coming. I mean, Kirk Cousins got the greatest gift
of all. He's immobile and he's not using his back
leg and you bring no heat at all and let
him just carve you up like that just is unconscionable
in terms of defensive game plan for that final drive.
But yeah, it's all about buying time for you that
it's you know, it's the Super Bowl, hope and you
(30:08):
going down to Bourbon Street and collecting beads with the
Jets fans, or for Kirk Cousins, I mean, same thing.
Great expectations for the year, right, how many tea how
many people picked them not only win the division but
make a rush towards the NFC title game based on
the strength of that roster, and a lot of it
was banking on Kirk Cousins to be one hundred percent.
(30:29):
Well it wasn't anywhere close to it, but for one
drive he was so one in one and you.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Move forward, exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down
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(31:00):
that celebration with London.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
By the way, in the final two minutes for Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
He did like a shooting thing. He was like shooting
eagles in the sky. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
At first it was like arms out, like expecting to
hear more noise from Philly and then yeah, I don't
know the birds reference they can get because aren't falcons.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Well, the thing is he went in the he went
into the the phone booth, pretended to be tippy hedron
the birds. He put his hands up all that stuff.
It was a whole big thing. It was all performance
are It was like get them wow, blades of glory.
When when Will Arnett says we do a whole a JFK.
Maryland Roe thing, it'll make sense when you see it.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Just let it crash into the phone. But listen, things
can't take care of themselves. By the way, this is
a Hitchcock reference.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Kids.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Check it out sometime. We do have plenty of football
to discuss in a minute. After the Falcons one point
win tonight, but everything is just final in the world
of baseball, and the White Sox have won again. I
told you they cannot be contained.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Break them up.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
San Diego over Houston three to one. You darbished the
pitcher with six scoreless innings. Houston's four game winning streak ends.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Notable was killing Houston to score runs tonight. Couldn't score
one run, couldn't get you darms a tip off any
pitches like it was a World Series.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
The Mexican tipping off great shape. You don't have to
worry about anyone else. With the Braves now with under
two weeks to go.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And the Diamondbacks lost again, eg climbing back to the
in the division.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
The Diamondbacks are six back of the Dodgers now, so
forget that as far as the NL West crown.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But the Padres Luis.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Arrias, who might win another batting title, actually struck out
in San Diego tonight.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That ends his streak.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Of one hundred and forty one played appearances in a
row without a strikeout, the longest in twenty years, and
in fact, in the last forty seasons, the longest set
streak belonged to the great Tony Gwynn himself, who went
one hundred and seventy played appearances without striking out during
the nineteen ninety five season.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What what team will be on next year? Because every
year he wins a batting title and gets traded, And
where's he heading next year and gets an All Star nod? Yeah,
but we can't use it row here, we can't use them.
We're moving on.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Padres, Marlins, twins Milwaukee with a win, Colorado beat Arizona
with a run, bottom of the ninth, Detroit and Cleveland
with wins. Dodgers won nine to nothing at Atlanta, and
the Braves are now game back of the Mets for
the final NL wild Card because New York in ten
innings beat Washington two to one. Another good start from
Sean Maniah, no decision but seven good innings and Starling
(33:23):
Marte with the game winning single.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Talk about a game winner.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The Atlanta Falcons on a pass with thirty seconds to go,
or so got the out of nowhere win at Philadelphia
this evening, twenty two to twenty one. Kirk Cousins two
touchdown passes in the second half. He went twenty of
twenty nine two hundred and forty one yards Bjon Robinson
on fourteen carries ninety seven yards. The Eagles late first
quarter went forward on fourth and four inside the Atlanta
(33:49):
ten and threw incomplete no points there, and Saquon Barkley,
with about a minute forty five left in the game,
dropped a screen pass that could have cemented things. Instead,
they settled for a short field goal a six point lead,
and very shortly thereafter, Cousins and company took the game
twenty two twenty one Falcons the final back to you.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Thank you, Steve O. Coming up next, we get back
into the end of this game and all the drama.
One thing I really don't want to see anymore in
any NFL game. We saw it a couple of times tonight.
What is it that's next? Right here? Jason and Mike
Fox do boom boom boom boom p do winn in
(34:33):
a weir ware were in our what p doo boom
boom doom doom doom b doom boom. I could be
the drums. I could be like pitch perfect and I
do this acappella. You're just there in the background. Doom doom, doom, doom, doom, doom,
doo doo doo doo doop do. We'll get you and
Anna Kendrick to do it.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Put doom boom boom boom boom, poo dump dump bump,
dump dump bum.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mine Carmen. We'll get into the chaos of the
Eagles coming up in about ten minutes, because Wow, way
to hear from Nick Sirianni as they give this game
to the Falcons, they say, here, we don't want to
just take it. We're gonna hand it to you. This
is what we're gonna do, is just handing this to you.
Garrett the microphone for a minute as people ask him questions.
(35:19):
There are some things to talk about here that are
just insane. I'm telling the Eagles fans aren't going to
sleep tonight. One thing we saw from tonight's game I
really could do without. In the NF the NFL's got
to say, Okay, we gotta be hard and fast about
stuff and then move on. First quarter of the game,
Jalen hurts big run for a first down, spikes the ball,
(35:39):
gets a delay of game penalty, which is just stupid. Really,
we we celebrate so many things and he spikes the ball.
You say, oh, we're giving you a delay of game penalty,
But how come you can have.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
An interception and as a group run ninety yards the
way you take a picture. In the picture standing there,
there's snow angels. Whatever the hell you do, that's gone.
That's an official who is just personally affronted because I
go to get the ball and the guy spikes it,
and I'm mad. It's a it's a it's an emotional
penalty by a referee who decides I'm gonna interpret the
(36:11):
rules that way. Look, players celebrate everything, right, let them celebrate.
I thought that penalty was ridiculously stupid. And the NFL's
got to say, okay, guy spikes them, let me spike
the ball. Okay, don't get upset. The guy's not doing
it to you. The guy's saying, screw you, referee, I'm
spiking the ball.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
In your face.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
But but it's if we're gonna do this right, it's
like you ask for consistency, right, You've coached softball soccer.
All you want is consistency from from the officials out there. Right,
same same thing here. If we're if we're gonna call it,
let's call it. It's it's like the the technical fall
Caitlin Clark punching the stanchion. If we're gonna call that,
let's be consistent. Oh yeah, I got no problem with
(36:48):
it being called, but make sure you're calling it and
any complaining any of the other stuff that other players
are doing. In this case, if we're going to take
the next snap is going to be delayed three minutes,
and I get it, you got TV time outs, but
you know, on the change possession, you don't necessarily go
to a TV timeout and then you get to do
(37:09):
all the histrionics, all of the celebration. Hey hey, eleventh guy,
you didn't get over here. Come on, we're not done yet,
and that there's no penalty for any of that. But
this constitutes a five yard Yeah, let's be consistent.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Now here's the other part of it. Later on in
the game, this rears its head in a bigger way.
Drake London catches the touchdown pass with thirty five seconds
left to go and the Falcons tie the game, extra
points gonna put them up, except he decided I wanted
to do a celebration where it looks like I'm shooting
eagles out of the sky. And as a result, well,
(37:43):
that extra point became a near fifty yard extra point on.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Sport with Mike con dot in Atlanta number five as
a fifteen yard penalty.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I Rembero of Pride, the extra point is going to
end up being forty eight yards for young Wait kup
the kick.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
There's a little short, but it is good.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Atlanta's taking the league with thirty four seconds left on
Young way Kers point.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
After Falcons Radio Network on the call. So I like
the fact they call the penalty. If you're gonna call
Jalen Hurts for that ridiculous penalty early, it makes sense
you do it there. But I I'm okay with this
one even more because I want to tell players, Okay, dude,
don't don't do anything with guns. Okay, just don't do it.
Do whatever said take that. Don't do anything with guns.
(38:30):
That's just stupid, right Like Drake Lennon, you gotta be
smarter than that. Don't do anything.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Like those are wrong, right, I mean, they pretty much
let you do whatever the hell you want.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
But gunspecial, what are you're doing?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Like what?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's stupid. So I'm glad they called that penalty because
you needed to, especially because if you did it for
the Eagles early. But this is what the NFL needs.
Do they need to just come out. It's very simple, guys,
don't do anything with guns. Everything else will kind of
let go as long as you don't go crazy and
and and get to the point where you're really delaying
the game or you're embarrassing the other team. Only two
hip thrusts, right, two have threats, don't use the ball
(39:07):
as a proper right whatever. But we'll let a lot
of stuff go. Just don't use guns. We won't call
it spike in the football. We won't call it on this.
That's how we'll do it. And that should be a
pretty easy thing the NFL can tell the player. Seems
pretty easy. Yeah, don't do guns. Guns, don't do guns.
Why would you do that? That's stupid.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Don't do guns now, I mean because of it, because
it was stupid. I really hoped that Young Wayku missed
that pat Oh. I was really hoping it was going
to hit you know, right, they just bounce out.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I want him to make it because in one of
my big leagues, I was going against Drake London and
if Drake London had overtime, he might have beat me.
So I wanted you were fearful about wanted that extra point.
I was good to London, caught the touch. I was like, no,
I can't have any more. I can't have any more.
I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Coming up next, we break down the ridiculousness that is
the Philadelphia Eagles and why they are always one step
away from absolute and total chaos. Jason and Mike Fox
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