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lot to get to self impost punishment upsets go or
on Week two. But Mike, we start with the upset
that we saw on Monday night in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Let the second guessing continue on the Philadelphia Eagles as
the Falcons go in and swoop victory out of the
talons of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
I got a million of them, Dan Smith and I
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subscribing to it just like you do. I watch Flex
for us yelling about a million different situations and pieces there.
Seven percent on the money line had the Falcons, so
they got a gift, sparking many online conspiracy theories as well,
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but so much second guessing, so many questions about play calling,
play distribution. It was just something special to behold the
drop from Saquon Barkley because immediately as the ball is
being drifted out to him on third and three, if
he catches it, does he slide.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Down, does he go into the end zone? What do
I get? Instead?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
I don't get my completion and yardage for hurts, and
I don't get my point one point six or whatever
it was gonna be from Barkley plus and then obviously
it opens the door to a loss. So all of
that chaos ensues. But you want to talk about fantastic
finishes made plenty coming out of the week, but this
one real head scratcher.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I did benefit from the Barkley drop because I had
Drake London in the league. See yeah, I needed something
at the end, and by the way, because it was
a six point game, I needed a little something, And
then I did need them to score because I figured, hey,
young Wayku, he's my kicker extra point. They're gonna need it,
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so he's gonna go out there and kick. So I
just needed a little something from Drake London. So I
was happy to see Saquon Barkley drop that football, just
like I think I was happy or the Atlanta Falcons
were happy that Jalen Hurts ended up dropping back to
pass on that play. And that's where I fall on
this argument. I think Nick Sirianni is an easy target
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and he's easy to pile on, and in this scenario,
I think it's easy to pile on him. So I will. No,
I'm no, I'm just kidding, but I will.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I went after everybody. I grabbed them all, Dan.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I disagreed with the call for the simple fact of
and this is something you and I have talked about
and other people have talked about before. But what does
the defense want you to do? What do the Falcons
want you to do in that scenario on third and three?
And I think they want you to pass the football.
I don't think the Falcons would have stopped them on
two consecutive runs for three yards. They hadn't seen to
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on that driver or any of the previous drives. And
in that instance, he's an easy target and he's gonna
deserve a lot of blame. But if if I wanted
to take that away, I'm still blaming Nick Sirianni on
the play call, even if Saquon Barkley drops it, because
you're throwing that into the equation. No pun intended, But
I think the Falcons wanted them to throw. They ended
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up throwing, and Atlanta leaves with a victory.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, the up Look, the call is right, everything's eric,
but you got to execute. And a guy that normally
catches sixty plus balls, we've seen Barkley do this.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
He leaves it on the carpet.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
But to your point, you're at he averaged four point
three yards per carry and he'd been running him buck.
That's why I go back to the early decision making.
When they went forward on fourth and four on their
second possession, right punt, punt, move the ball down.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What happens.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Barkley's running at a clip of nine eleven ten nine,
like on the broadcast, you know, listening to the radio,
and you know accompaniment like you've got the all right,
he's running and then they get it down to the fifteen,
and what happens gain Well, gain Well incompletion and then
an incompletion to Godard on fourth fourth, It's like, hey,
that twenty sixth guy, he was doing some really nasty
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stuff to this defense. Where the hell is he? I mean,
unless he's in a you know, the hyperbaric chamber because
he needs some oxygen, why the hell's he not on
the field. So I didn't even hate the fourth and four.
I'm like, but where's your best player?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Why is he not? Why on first down? Second down?
And yes, change of pace is all found a good
Those guy's going crazy on this drive. And then he
doesn't factor in at all to your play calling. And
then you get down to this final scenario in that play,
how's he not.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Just handed off? You're fake into the line and have
her scoot to the outside.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And this is a theme with Nick Sirianni, whether it
be with Miles Sanders or he was there in Philadelphia
DeAndre Swift. I know things aren't going great with Swift
right now with your Bears, but still the fact of
running the football when they would have their three headed
monster with Gainwell and Boston Scott, you know, it wasn't
used like the previous regime would use that sort of
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running back. And now you felt, well, now you've got
Saquon Barkley. No disrespect to Miles Sanders or DeAndre Swift,
but you brought in Saquon Barkley for a reason, and
it isn't just to stick it to the New York
Jose's yeah and yeah to your point that question, there
are a lot of points in the game. The defense
of Ecfangio's defense on the last.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Criminal that was literally put your head set down, take
your ball cap off, and just go walk into the sunset. Sure,
because that for a guy that can't move right. We
watch Cousins all night. You watched it. I watched it.
Ian watched it. The guy's not even planting on his
back foot, right, he's got He's doing nothing. It's all
arm and front of like front torso kind of thing.
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Because he's not delivering the ball downfield and you don't
pressure him once.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Doesn't make ones, doesn't make sense right.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
You let him sit out there like he was the uh,
the guy that you grabbed to play quarterback in your
street football. Dan. Yeah, it's like, hey, dad, can you
you Ha's the arm like, but no, you don't have
to move off the spot. You're just the you know,
you know, quarterback for both teams. Okay, good, nobody's gonna
hit you. That's kind of how they played with Kirk
Cousins and what was a pedestrian night with his one
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seventy one and a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Suddenly looks pretty good two forty one and two.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And he gets to shed the label again of not
primetime Kirk, something that I even made light of in
our last episode, stepped up when he needed to. If
they don't get the win, I think we are pointing
to some of those modest numbers or are saying when
is Michael Pennock's gonna start those sort of conversations. But
that changed everything. I mean Vic Fangio, that defense made
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him look like a surgeon. It was, Yeah, it really was.
There's a lot that goes into it, just like there's
a lot that went into the Giants losing into the Commanders.
But I put the blame on Dables shoulders for their
kicking situation at last on Monday Night. I'm putting it
on Siriani just for that for that play call. Falcons
didn't want you to run the football or to pass
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the football. They didn't want you to run the football.
They wanted you to pass the football. That's what I'm
trying to say. And he did, gave him the opportunity,
and what a story. And then even Hurts with the
you need to get in the field goal range? Right?
Would you get the ball back?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You can. We've seen fifty some yarders Jake Elliott sixty one.
We've seen it before.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
We're already yet.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I mean, what do we got thirty fifty yarders or
something like that the two weeks of the season.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, absolutely, the bad pass by Hurts at the end.
I am not bullish on a lot of the Eagles
fantasy wise. I think they're gonna be fine, Mike, But
let me just say this. I don't think they're gonna
be that humming machine that we saw two years ago.
And I think we saw some hurk and jerk last
year with it. I think we're gonna get a lot
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of hurk and jerk this year. The only saving grace
may be that defense isn't good enough, so you may
need to be in some shootouts to score points. But
I just don't necessarily know on what exactly is gonna
happen each week? Because this week they heck that drive
in the fourth quarter took up like ten minutes of
the clock. Saquon Barkley doesn't get into the end zone.
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I think you're gonna see instances like that. Not a
complete fantasy downer with the Eagles. I just don't know
what I'm getting weak to week. If it's gonna be
Demonte Smith, Saquon AJ Brown or whoever.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
No, that's it with AJ Brown being out at least
another couple of weeks or at least that's the word
that comes down. And this is where it got tough
for fantasy owners, cuz you know, you know, guys are
already banged up, right, it's Week one.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's the NFL. It is what it is.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
That came down as a bit of a shocker on
Sunday when you found out that Brown was gonna be deactivated,
and then the follow up Monday heading into kickoff was.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's probably a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
And with all the other injuries, and we'll get to
that in a future episode. And when we get to
our waiver wires, you're adding another complexity to this offense.
We know Barkley's gonna get his We know hurts with
his legs. The passing numbers may not be there, only
one hundred and eighty three passing yards, but he ran
for eighty five yards. He had thirteen carries of his own,
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and Smith is going to get a decent targets account.
Outside of that, I'm starting to acquaint myself with Britain Covey, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Cd out.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
I mean that's where we're at with trying to figure out,
all right, what's the depth chart?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
How do we sort it out?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Goddard still, you know, trying to round back into shape
four targets three for thirty eight in the loss to Atlanta,
but certainly not picking up the big share that you
thought he would, so really hurts Barkley and Smith get
to play. Everybody else becomes a huge question mark.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It is I want your flex hit Mic up at Swollenome.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Ian Dorodi,
you want to add anything else into this, this Eagles
debacles situation with the Atlanta Falcons on what we saw
on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Mainly, I would just like to apologize for my streaming
defense pick because I recommended the Eagles, and I'm feeling
bad about that. We're gonna try and get back, get
back right this week.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It's okay, Ian, And I told Ian before the start
of the podcast that it's all right. Things happen like this.
This is yet you have a bad week. I needed
the Eagles to score three freaking points on defense to
win in my long you know, tenured league mic and
they got me one sack. Yeah, absolutely demoralizing. Sit there
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and just all you wanted to do is just watch
for a stat to pop up. Never happened.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, how you don't bring pressure more pressure on a
mobile quarterback after what we watched on Sunday night, obviously
young guy Caleb Williams. And to that end, the Bears
on CJ. Stroud right, relentless, make a play, make your
quick decisions here, Captain Kirk, you know, take your time,
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do what you gotta do.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Per the pressure thing. I don't know who's missing, Hassan
Reddick more. The Eagles are the Jets right now.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I saw I saw that coming up, the joke of hey,
we need a pass rusher.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Is Reddick available? Right?
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Because they got Bryce Hoff They trade, not a trade,
but it was like a one for one swap almost
and neither team's getting much pass rush right now.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Unbelievable Falcon side of things. Bejon looked good.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, he needs the ball more.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Fourteen for ninety seven the way he can get you
an explosive run. You know, I don't understand the low count,
although I'll jeer. You know, always been solid, and that
was the consideration last year when everybody jumped on Bjon
like they have other running backs but here, like the
fact that he only had four catches at five targets here,
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I need him higher in that distribution. If you can't
push the ball downfield.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I think last week was so one sided with Bijon.
They tried to even it out a little bit, try
to get some of that balance. I think it worked.
I think he can do if you get him up
to eighteen. I'm fine with that. He looked, he looked fresh,
he looks spry, he looked, he looked really good at Bijeon.
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And now you sprinkle in some more Drake London action
that you got Kyle pittsing a little bit more. I
think they're gonna be alright. I think they're gonna be
all right. The Tyler. The Tyler Algier stuff from Zach
Robinson this offseason may not be coming to fruition as
we thought, but to the point of his usage tonight,
it was probably more of what Zach Robinson was thinking
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when he was talking about him in late July.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
How about some darnel moon each shares anybody anyone in I.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Don't. I don't hate it. I just don't seeing the
I don't foresee those plays happening over and over again.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
People learn that Vic Fangio was a.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Faster exactly exactly. Yeah, yeah, I'm alright with that. Okay,
you're fine with that.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I mean, it really just comes down to what kind
of wide receiver depth do you have? How desperate are you?
Are you one of these folks that has already lost
multiple wide receivers from your stars that you drafted.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I'll say this, if you are really in desperate road,
I think I'd rather have Ray Ray McCloud than than Mooney.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
You targeted him in the end zone one point there.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, so, and he seems to be more of
their I don't know, Swiss army knife, if you will,
I'm doing different things, but I don't know if i'd
go that deep with them.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Either way, we got all named you in both Rey
Ray and Mooney.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yes, yes we do. Perfect time to take a time out.
He is Mike Harmon. Hit him up at Swollendome. He
can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Falcons over
the Eagles in Philadelphia just one of the many, many
upsets we had in Week two of the National Football
League season. What does it mean? And for those teams
that were upset, what does it mean when it comes
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to their fantasy studs. We'll talk about that next tier
on I Want Your Flex. It was upset Sunday again
in the National Football League. Hit Mike up at swollen Dome,
Find me at dan Byder on Fox. Week two provided
a lot of drama in the National Football League. Every
week provides drama in the National Football League, but the
carryover from Week one, Mike was I think even more
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prevalent in Week two when we saw heavy favorites like
the Ravens, Cowboys, and we just talked about the Philadelphia
Eagles go down and upsets. I want to start in
Baltimore where the Raiders came back and got that win
against the Ravens who now fall to zero and two
the season. Maybe the biggest shocker is one of the
survivor picks that I suggested. I'll get to that later
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on in this pod. But let's talk Ravens sort of things. Mike,
this is an zero to two team. Are we finding
any I don't know, blemishes fantasy wise when we're looking
at the Ravens and playing such a I don't want
to say I was a clunker of a game, but
they didn't do what they needed to do in the
final twelve minutes when they were up double digits and
the Raiders took advantage and scored thirteen an answered to
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get the win.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Not often do you hold a team to twenty seven
rushing yards and lose, right, so, and give up twenty
six points at that but Lamar Jackson two forty seven
to one and one. That's where you're at forty five
rushing yards.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Fine.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Derrick Henry had a better game, including a big run.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Got into the end zone again.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Zay Flowers, I think we've expected you know, you're gonna
get the lion's share of the targets, so we're gonna
get some production there and maybe a couple of big plays.
The concerning part is when we look at Likely and Andrews,
Andrews goes four to fifty one. I mean, it's a
nine point game, right for PPR leagues, But Isaiah Likely
who after week one so many and rightly so right
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based on the production and expectations of what the offense
would be, that he'd see a much bigger share as well.
Only three targets two for twenty six, so a lot
of free agent acquisition budgets, especially in guillotine leagues. I mean,
he might be right back out there after the chopping block,
after that acquisition. So I think that's the concern here
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that from Monkins offense, you know, trying to find those
secondary targets for Lamar Jackson seems like it's going to
be a little more difficult to proposition.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
So curious, especially with the next two games being against
Dallas being against Buffalo, in how fast this season could
kind of unravel. Sure saw stat today from bet on
line or Buddy Jimmy Shapiro said, since the NFL went
to a seventeen game schedule teams starting out oh and two,
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there have been twenty one of them and only two
of them have made the playoffs. So for as much
as we think of, oh, it's a long season. Now
at the extra game. Oh and two you can bounce back.
Oh two is a little bit bigger deal. It's also
a little bit bigger deal as we're talking about these upsets,
is this is a game that you win. This is
a game that you don't think about when you're making
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your picks on your schedule, and may when the schedule
comes out, you may have said Ravens losing Cincinnati, bounce back,
get a win against the Raiders, and you just move
on to the bigger games. This was pointed out as
a trap game, and I just I'm curious. I'm not
this is it's early, but if this does start to
get away from Baltimore, I wonder how much Lamar Jackson
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starts to press in these situations. And we know when
Lamar presses sometimes he's not playing as well. When he's
got something to prove, which is different than pressing. He
three thrives. We saw against the Dolphins of the five
touchdown performance, so they had last year to cement that MVP.
But when he presses sometimes he tries to do too
much and also has a trickle dot effect as well.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, it's curious. It was one of the games.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
You know, we do our little upset specials Smith and
I and look with an eight point spread, him like,
give me the Raiders plus the eight. Wouldn't be shocked
if they won outright, I didn't expect it in this fashion. Sure,
Minshew sacked five times only as one throwing touchdown. By
the way, Madison was a guy that was picked up
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a lot in fantasy leagues, maybe as a flyer, as
a flex. After his Week one performance against the Chargers,
four carries, one yard, but he got into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's like that old Jerome Bettist stat line from many, many.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Years ago where he had five carries for one yard
and three scores. A little bit smaller version here. But
DeVante Adams gave you what you needed. Brock Bauers gave
you what you needed. But yeah, the Baltimore side so
fascinating to see with a new OC but still the
same head coach and the philosophy of whether it gets right.
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I mean week three, you know you mentioned in your
trio of teams that you threw out as upset of
week two. I mean, now they get the Cowboys. Yeah,
I have no idea what to expect from the Cowboys.
I know they have Dak Prescott, They've got a kicker
that's super tow, kind of like Janakowski used to be
for these Raiders. But like where we're at in the
league with fifty yard attempts, Dallas's offense is more set
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for we can get you into field goal range, long
field goal range, and that's about it. And then we're
wishing and hoping Zimmer's defense shows up.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, it truly is. And you mentioned super Tow. Justin
Tucker had eleven points for the Ravens on Sunday but
missed another fifty yard They had an opportunity as well.
The Raiders didn't do anything. You mentioned the rushing stats.
Raiders didn't do anything in the first three drives. A
lot of times if you go back and forth like that,
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Ravens are up seventeen to nothing and now you're playing
uphill in Baltimore. And that was not the case on Sunday,
even though Baltimore again had a ten point lead early
in the fourth quarter. Still not that type of Ravens
game where they can they can wrap up. Yeah. Absolutely,
What about the Cowboys since you know we talked about
that matchup in week three. Oof on, there's gonna be
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a whole Saints conversation that we'll talk about as well
as part of this. But I thought that Dak was
gonna bounce back, and instead the Saints just bounced the
Cowboys out of their own stadium.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Well, and that's the thing, right, trying to figure out
where the production is gonna come from. And for Dak,
I look all I oh, you want is wins, right,
I mean, I get it. He's got a new massive contract.
You know, it's the same thing here in La where
where we're based. And you know, you hear all these
conversations of people lamenting what justin Herbert may or may
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not be. As long as they're winning games. Inside that
locker room, there's not noise. Now, maybe they they want
to have their stats be among the top fives and
get the love there. But you know, the outside world,
you know, we have that different. It's not style points
where you're putting up huge numbers for Dak. I mean
Week one wasn't pretty against the Browns, but they got
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a win, right, it was efficient and it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Of field goals.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, and then we trust CD Lamb, But do we
trust anything else on that offense?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, and the even the funny thing about Cede Lamb
was he scores his touchdown on Sunday on broken tackles
and then just outruns everyone. So even that was one
where it wasn't like it was schemed up for a touchdown,
you know, just it ended up happening. And that was
kind of all they had now because they were getting
their butts kicked so much. And I had dak as
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my oasis song, I Don't Look Back in Anger, gave
you two hundred and ninety three yards in the air
and a score, but to your point, was picked off
twice and the Saints just just continued to roll. Again.
We'll have a Saints conversation, will probably need to have
a Raiders conversation as well, considering their matchup against the
the the Panthers. But it was just a crazy, crazy,
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funky day, the Lions, the forty nine ers falling. Let's
start in San Francisco where you play now with Christian McCaffrey.
You lose that game to the Vikings. Fantasy wise, now
you don't have Deebo Samuel. Oh yeah, yeah, this is
uh Now it's time to step up when you got
a depleted Rams team, you got to go face in
week three.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
But that's just it. It's the battle of who's still
standing at this point, right. You can still get a
pass rush, and we've seen what you can do with
that against Stafford and the Rams at this point. So
in theory, you get a little bit healthy that way.
And I don't know how healthy Stafford's gonna be, but
that's another conversation down the line. But I mean losing
Debo Auk hasn't found his stride just yet. Four catches
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forty three in week two, you still don't have Pearcell
coming off of the in you know, the shooting. So
you know, Mason gives you one hundred yards and a score,
that's he's gonna get his check that box. Perdy actually
goes over three hundred yards, but he absorbed six sacks.
The offensive line outside of Trent Williams. We talked about
it coming into the year had been evaluated as you know,
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middling or slightly above average, and it showed here and
Flores schemed him up. So can it be a blueprint?
Now they don't have the same personnel to run Flora's
defense so we take that and maybe it's a bit
of an outlier, but the fact that you don't have
a lot of the able bodies, it's just becomes a
difficult proposition. Kittle gives you seven for seventy six and
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a score. He's gonna have to be huge. But the
question becomes if when you do face a defense that's
aggressive like Minnesota's, are you gonna be able to get
him out in pass coverage enough or is he gonna
have to stay back and run.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Block great point, Yeah, there's and I don't want to
need to be dire and I don't wish this on anyone,
but there's probably gonna be a point where George Kittle
gets stinged up.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
This year always is a stretch. He may play through it,
but his production goes away.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yes, this is and I'm almost ashamed of this. We don't.
You don't want to talk about it in judys. That's why,
even just in the joke five seconds ago. You don't
wish injury on anyone. But there is a history. There
was a history with Christian McCaffrey prior to him, you know,
really coming to San Francisco and doing his stuff, and
now this pops up and I hate the sayd but
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we probably shouldn't be surprised. We probably shouldn't be surprised
that Deebo Samuel is now dealing with something. We shouldn't
be surprised that, you know, George Kittle may have to
deal with something. Forty nine Ers had to play into
early February. They they had a month more of football
than most teams in the National Football League. And all
the names that we're mentioning aren't really young guys either.
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There's miles on those tires. So for now that to
come into the equation of Deebo's got a calf injury.
Not that Debo's old, but Deebo's taken some hits. He's
been injured at times. There's where on that tread. McCaffrey,
same thing, Kittle, same thing. I mean, these things are
We shouldn't necessarily be surprised that these things are happening.
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And when we're looking at the forty nine ers trying
to reload and going for it, we're two weeks in
and I don't see it happening. I see a lot
more on brock Party, Souldiers, Gosh, if Jordan Mason, if
something happens to him. I have no idea what they're
gonna do running the football.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Yeah, I mean I think you know with Debo, we've
seen him have to be used as a running back
in the past, right, yes, so add not just he's
running routes, but he's taken a bunch of punishment as
a runner through the years. Just two carries minus ten
yards in the game against Minnesota, but eight catches, ten targets,
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and he normally is not like it's not a fly
pattern for him, right, it's not a go route. Generally
he works over the middle and finds some yak. But
what happens in most of those consequences, he's getting hurt.
Right in those situations, he's getting hit pretty hard, I
should say, and so over time pretends to injury. Christian
McCaffrey had gotten away from it, and you know part
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of it was the Okay, let's look in point at
the Carolina way of doing things as potentially part of
the problem. But again, many miles as a runner, as
a receiver and a couple of years healthy, do you
necessarily see it coming.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
No, But you're also looking.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
At the sport of football, like generally, if your team
goes relatively injury free, one year, it comes back.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It just does right some teams.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
You know, there's the old joke that we've made forever
of the Kyrie Irving sage brush to try to get
the exercise your locker room in your training room, and
that was true of the Ravens and the Chargers for years. Well,
it seems, at least for the moment, it's moved its
way up to Santa Clara.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
George Kittle hasn't played every game in a season since
twenty eighteen, so you know, just to and again to
your point, it's not that not to wish, but these
things build up and there's wear and tear. There's stuff
that happens. You know, Trent Williams just maybe a freak
that you know, like hit, like Walter Jones was with
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the Seahawks, just show up at the end of training
camp and then be an all pro for the next
you know, three to four months. And Trent Williams maybe
the same thing. But forty nine ers are starting to
run out of guys because it's one thing to lose McCaffrey.
Then you say, well we have Jordan Mason there, but
then you also have lost the Elijah Mitchell. He's not there.
You mentioned Deebo as the ballcarrier. You're talking about the
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receiving core. Now Debo's not there. Brandon Nyuk is still
trying to get his sea legs under him after his
hold in. We mentioned Kittle. Yeah, it's gonna be a tough,
tough road for the forty nine ers. I think they
can get past the Cooper Couples Rams on Sunday, maybe
they can weather some of the storm. But they're gonna
have to figure out a way to get everything and
get everyone on the same page and then peek in
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the second half of the season because right now they're
just dealing with attrition seemingly everywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna be gonna be curious.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
You go through the next stretch of the schedule at
LA and then a home date with New England, then
the upstart Cardinals are out there, and then your Seahawks
dan in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, Seahawks played a completely different game than they did
against the Denver Broncos against the Patriots, and find a
way to win both of them. They may their opponents
may not be good, but they are two and er
right now, sitting atop that NFC West, something that I
didn't know if it was gonna happen, Mike, it wasn't
for sure. And now you've got to school a tongue
of I lols Dolphins making that cross country trip to Seattle.
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Maybe just maybe three and oh could be on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
So you know your man can coach up a defense.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Got Geno throwing for over three hundred yards, Jackson Smith
and Jigba, who you talked about before the season, expecting
him to take on a bigger role. What do you
have fifteen targets? I think it was sixty, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Did he get to sixteen?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
I think I think with targets we're still in a
place that it's a depending on where you look kind
of like sure, sure, especially if one gets taken off
for penalty or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But he and d I think it's thirty between them. Yeah,
I was sixteen and fourteen on on ESPN, So.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
So there you go. But yeah, opportunity knocks.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
There are there are a lot. There's a lot to
get to. The injuries in the National Football League obviously
have ramifications.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
What do you do you said, ramifications?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh, very good, very good. What do you do if
you have Cooper Cup, what do you do if you've
got a Deebo Samuel on your team? Waiver wire is
going to be essential. Mike's going to get to that.
Plus our banishment that we've got here on I Want
Your Flex, a self imposed banishment. Plus we thought it
was gonna be cool. It didn't happen, but that's okay.
(29:49):
We'll explain all that stuff. He's Mike carmen Ian Rodd
is the executive producer. I'm Dan Byer. This is I
Want Your Flex. Okay, First things first, welcome back to
I Want Your Flex. Second thing, I'm banning myself from
making a Survivor pick in week three. Mic so our
Friday episode self imposed banishment. I've handed out two losers
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this week. I'm also banning myself because I've second guessed
my picks after the fact, and I don't think it's fair.
I think I need to get on the right track.
Anybody who's taken my advice has been knocked out of
a Survivor pick. Hopefully they can get into a second
chance pick or a new pool that starts up because
there's been so much carnage in Survivor picks over the
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last couple of these first two weeks of the season
that you know, people are saying, all right, let's just
start a new again. But man, I need to pay
the piper. I gave you Ravens and I gave you Patriots.
Is the real, real sleeper. They almost actually pulled it
off against my Seahawks. Seahawks ended up winning an overtime,
but the Ravens blew that ten point lead, and like
(30:56):
many saw survivor lives go up in flames in week two.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Well that's the worst of it. It's like it's not
even hey, you were laying the point. It's like, I
got a ten point lead. We just need to cruise
this home like we used to under Greg Roman and
play some hardball ball, and they couldn't get it done.
Right now, my my friends in Baltimore, I checked in
on them earlier. I can't even read their responses, Dan,
(31:22):
It's all I can say. I cannot read their responses.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I am in a survivor pool where the guy sent
out the email, twenty two percent remain. Seventy eight percent
have been knocked out in two weeks. In two weeks,
it's just been it's been crazy. So the Circa the
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the CIRCA Big Yeah, fourteen million dollar one prior to
prior to the Eagles game, because this is the most
updated information they had, sixty seven point three eliminated that
had passed what they had in twenty two for the
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highest percentage, and then and then Mike, another seven hundred
and eighty five were knocked out with the Eagles loss. Crazy,
just yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
The updates of those are really among the h the
most cherished that I get on a given given week.
You know, whenever there's a big game that's a disaster,
I love watching you know, the scroll and seeing the updates.
Last night, or I should say Sunday night, as you know,
the Bears are playing the Texans. I was watching it
(32:40):
from Dodger Stadium and screaming and people are like, oh
you really.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Like that song? Like no, the city had dropped the ball.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Ah, So yeah, feeling it for all of the folks
that you know as they ride ride.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
The lightning on these things there.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Were this These were the top selections for CIRCA in
week two. Ravens number one, twenty six and a half
percent gone. Texans survive at twenty three point six, Chargers
survive at fourteen point seven. Then Lions at ten percent out,
Eagles at nine percent, out, Jaguars at three percent, out,
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Cowboys at three percent out, Colts at two percent out.
That's what you had in your top eight picks for Survivor. Yes,
six of them went by the wayside. Crazy, crazy times, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Crazy couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
I mean I saw some stuff about, you know, people
just picking up against the spread through the first two weeks.
Let me see if I can rediscover it in filibuster
here for a second, because the stat just jumped off
the page. Not to mention the fact that you had
Eagle fans lining up at five o'clock in the morning
to go tailgate, which is a whole lot of rule
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that I aspire to be part of some day in
my life.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Well as you filibuster, I'm just gonna say that because
another reason why I'm making a ban is I don't
even know who to suggest in week three because what's
up is down and what's down is up. You could
just take a coin flip and cross your fingers and
hope for the best. Sometimes I think that's better than
actually taking the favorite, and then it's like having you know,
just nails on a chalkboard for three hours, trying to
(34:19):
survive that that slug fest you mentioned Texans Bears, and
your Bears doing what they did. I did take the
Texans in a survivor pool, three hour root canal with
the way that that game was pap oh yeah, no, that.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Was a slug fest. And you know, still sitting at
the edge of my seat and watching the final drive,
wishing against all reality that suddenly the offense would click
and that pass to DJ Moore would actually be nestled
into his arms, you know, with all the room that
he gave him instead of falling incomplete pressures. All that
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other stuff we can do plenty. I could do hours
on the Bears. But here was the stat I was
looking for. Action Network HQ data the public through two
weeks of the season eleven twenty one and one against
the spread, second worst start of the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Wow. Ouch, I just think, you know, team like the Eagles, perfect,
perfect scenario. You just think like they're great, and I
leaving on Monday night, I have no idea how great
the Eagles are. The Cowboys too, and seeing that game
against the Saints. We'll have a Saints discussion in Wednesday's episode.
(35:32):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
But just and I said with you know, if the
Raiders and Ravens are just using that, you start peeling
back the onion and then you see, okay, yeah, that's
how the Raiders can win. Yeah, Tucker misses a long
field goal. Raiders don't do anything early, but the Ravens
don't capitalize, so they hang around. Now they got Gardner Minshew.
You know, brock Bauer starts coming into his own Devonte
(35:54):
Adams best receiver on the field. Yeah, you can see
how that happens, and what do you know, it ended
up happening. But one week Survivor ban on Friday, you
will not get a Survivor pick from me at all,
self imposed. Hopefully the NCAA doesn't come after me and
could be even even harsher punishment.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Now they'll play a theme song for you when you
come back the next week. Thinking to Kirk Farnce of
the Hawk Ass after his one week ban.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I do have to say this, we also unfortunately made
the cutting room floor on the NFL on Fox pregame show.
It's one of those things and if they would have
used our cut that they asked permission to, it would
have been a three second maximum. You would have had
to listen very very carefully to what they were putting together.
It was a really effective piece in talking about Jordan Love,
(36:41):
but all the chatter around the Packers quarterback unfortunately, I
want your flex to not make it Sunday Morning debut.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Well, nothing else.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Hopefully we drove some extra viewers if maybe you didn't
partake of the Fox pre game shows on a weekly basis,
perhaps the teas that you'd hear some famili your voices
from your friends Dan and Mike an Ian that maybe
you you tuned in and you found something that you loved.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
And we ask that you don't harass them for it.
It's over, We're.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Good with We'll be back in another week. We got
plenty of plenty of people to talk about, plenty of stories, and.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Some of those stories are the injuries, and your fantasy
lineup likely was hit with them. Let's get to some
waiver wire for weeks. Mike, who do we need to
pick up heading into the next week.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Well, I think as we get curious at the quarterback
position right because we've had a couple of injuries there
as well. Your guy Gino Smith only owned in about
twenty five percent of leagues right now and winging the
ball around. You got multiple receiving options, and with Jackson
Smith and Jigba, like the title of Lockett Week the week,
we're still you know, trying to see what his health is.
But and then add DK, you've got guys that are
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gonna make plays for you. Someone's got to pick up
Derek Carr in your league. It might as well be you.
Even if you never play him. You're playing defense against
the rest of your league. I don't know that this Saints'
offense is I mean, they can't keep this pace up.
This is the fourth best in NFL history through two weeks,
the number of points they've put up in the operational efficiency.
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But right now you've got you know, in Shaheed the
big play. You got Kamara as a runner and as
a receiver making some plays. You've got Chris a lot like,
you've got options the dual tight ends. Trying to pick
which one's gonna have a big game, good luck. But
either way, you've still got an offense that's making some Hey,
Sam Darnold has justin Jefferson. Eventually he's gonna get TJ.
(38:37):
Howkinson back. So He's a guy that, if nothing else rosterable,
and with the advent of more two QB leagues, he
might have been one of the few guys that was
on the outs and the cutting room floor. Sorry, I
had to bring it back that maybe he gets in
and then if you're really in desperation mode, maybe Justin
Fields has done enough to convince you that he's gonna
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keep the job and stick around. So there's your quarterbacks
when we look at it from the running back perspective
and all the injuries, well, Carson Steele comes in with
Pacheco's broken leg.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
A little bit behind him.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
I think some agp Ryan if you really want, because
he might catch some balls out of the backfield, but
certainly not a guy that I think Steele's probably the
lead there. Dan all Jeer we saw the nine carries
should be Bjan's, but still more than half the league's
algiers available, and let's face it, Atlanta, over the course
of the year, they're gonna need him because we've seen
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bell Cows. Guys are gonna miss a game here and
there getting dinged up. So an opportunity there and then
go a little deeper. Braylen Allen just nine It kills
me to recommend a jet just because it makes Smith smile,
and I think he probably just ate another big Mac
in its honor. Nine percent owned, but a big game.
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And as we watch Aaron Rodgers, right, like we talked
with Kirk Cousins trying to get comfortable and what his
body is able to do, you're gonna see a lot
of dump bops an opportunity and they want to make sure. Look,
they've got aspirations for January. Right, That's what this team
is built on, which means Breece Hall is not going
to touch the ball thirty times a game. So Allen's
going to be a guy that you're going to see
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a decent touchdown I think each and every week. Quickly
to the receiver side of things, DeMarcus Robinson is the
number one guy there, last man standing for the Rams
still available in about seventy percent of league's coming in.
Quentin Johnston had two touchdowns for the Chargers. Again, Now
we're just talking about looking at depth because of the
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injury situations and trying to find a diamond in the rough.
I know Josh Doallens got cut in a lot of
leagues with his injuries. How much he returns to full form.
I'm not sure Alec Pearce in the interim with Indianapolis,
But are you trusting Anthony Richardson to throw the ball
and complete passes?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
That's the risk reward.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
You've got to decide whether you're on board there receiving
position a lot thinner than you'd like, and then at
the tight end position there's one man standing alone. We've
already recommended Parkinson before looking at Hunter Henry of the
New England Patriots only rostered at about twenty percent of
leagues and his share account the way they're going to run,
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run the ball and try to play defense and short
and intermediate passes with Persett and eventually Drake May In theory,
Hunter Henry's a guy that'll give you some red zone looks,
but right now he's also much more than that.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
All right, two things before we wrap this up. I
cannot I can't believe what I'm about to say, and
I'll tell you what. Empathize with the guy because of
what he's been going through at the opening of the season.
But you know I was always on the Clyde Edwards
E lair train. Sure, and for the last couple of
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years just has not panned out. That could also be
a target once he comes back after these four games.
Maybe he comes back sooner rather than if you if
you aren't in Kareem Hunts coming into Kansas City to
have a visit there something to watch for with the Chiefs.
I'll say this about the Braylan Allen in Breesce Hall
(42:11):
scenario with the Jets, I'm curious on Ian's thought. Our
happy Jet fan, uh sweet victory that doesn't get under
Mike's skin as much. Braylen Allen a made the most
of his opportunities against the Titans, but it also helps
on a short week to give a guy that and
then now you're on Thursday. And not that they didn't
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use Breese Hall, because they did, but sure seems that
this way going forward Mike Andy Ian is something that
could really work for the New York Jets, especially on
a short week.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
I think Mike's spot on with this. I mean, you know,
and me as a bias Jets fan, I get it.
But but Braylan Allen is a really good pick up,
especially at running back when you know, in general, running
backs in fantasy are just harder to come by, So
I think Braylan Allen's a great pick up, especially because
the Jets always tend to discover quote unquote their rookies
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a little later in the season than they should. They
start using them a little later. Breist Hall had to
leave the game a little early yesterday. He sat out
a few plays that forced them to put Braylen Allen in,
and I think it kind of forced them to realize, wait,
this guy's actually ready. He's six two, two forty, he's
ready to play football. So I think that's a great pickup.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
I'm gonna I'm gonna end with this. I don't think
the NFL did the Jets any favors with this schedule.
We've got, like, my goodness, you've played two road games,
one of which was on a Monday night, and now
you've got to come home and play on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
And then and the Tennessee defense too, is kind of
I feel like people are overlooking that they they are
a lot better.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
As much as Will Levis may drive you insane, yeah,
defense can play.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
Will Levis is on a generational run though with these, uh,
these images he's creating. First, there's the interception he had there,
the picture of him on his knees, the hands on
his back, and then this week there's him falling forward
trying to toss the ball, his legs are in the air.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
It's it's crazy, Brian Callahan yelling what.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
The bleacher doing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yes, the Jets portion of it though, like when you
go into Thursday night, what would you rather be? Would
you rather be the team that started the year in Cincinnati,
came home and now has a you know, thirty minute
not even a thirty minute flight to your you know,
next trip, or would you rather be the Jets and
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start on the left coast then have to go play
in Nashville now it was short week and finally come home,
like the Jets are going to be just as exhausted
as the Patriots are, if not more.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
And they're banged up going into it too.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
It's just yeah, Jermaine Johnson's hurt. And then when just
when you think it gets better, they've got a London
trip coming up in a couple of weeks. Then they'll
come back and play the Bills on Monday night, and
then they then they play on Sunday night against the
Pittsburgh Steelers. So it's funky, funky schedule for the Jets
to start this season. But to have to have this
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many games, to go from a week one Monday to
a week three Thursday night, just odd. You're gonna need
both backs if you're gonna be doing that, all right,
So that's it for this week two post mortem of
the National Football League. For Ian, Roddy and Mike Carmen,
you guys got anything else? You should? We wrap this
bad boy up?
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (45:23):
I got a lot of grievances, But the end result
is we're two weeks in and it's proven already, don't
we don't know what we don't know, and it's why
it's the greatest reality show every every damn.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Night, Yes, yes, providing headaches and ulcers for all of
us Fantasy A players around the globe. So for Mike
Rmenennie and Roddy, I'm Dan Meyer. I'm tuck to you
next time here, and I wanted to plays