September 19, 2024 • 44 mins
On tonight's edition of The Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike the discuss the Panthers’ announcement that they won't be trading QB Bryce Young and react to Buccaneers QB Baker Mayfield’s comments on the situation. Next, NFL Insider Jason Cole joins the show to talk all the major headlines coming out of the NFL going into week 3. Finally, they analyze Chiefs TE Travis Kelce’s remarks about his slow start to the season. Tune in for an action-packed show!
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I really I didn't expect it to go this long,
(01:10):
kind of like the Venom trilogy. Like I thought, Okay,
we're gonna be done after one of these, but instead, now,
oh no, no, we got a third one Popcorn bocket
Yeah yeah, yeah, man like that. Yeah, no, I'll go
see it. Well, I mean, it's all so I could
go to the movies. But really I thought, okay, you
know Venom. Okay, one movie, Yeah, then we're gonna move on. No, no, no,
we're back for another one. Okay, all right, another one. Okay,
(01:31):
it's still kind of fun and and okay and and
uh uh football is life, isn't it at the end? Okay?
And now okay, now we're done. Oh no, no, no, we're
getting the third one.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Just remember this, all right, it's not Is this good
for your eyes and make you entertained? Is it good
for the bottom line? I mean really, if it's positive,
then it keeps getting made.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I mean really, I'll get really nervous if morebus two
we get one of those, I'm gonna get nervous for that.
But I was a nerd. I kind of enjoyed it. Yeah,
you know what I went in expecting absolutely no, that's true. Yeah,
expect nothing. You every discip I got something. So this
is what kind of gets me because we're still this
Bryce Young story still has a beating heart. Three days later,
(02:15):
there's a lot of anger, and I thought it's gonna
be like at some point, like in a movie when
someone pulls someone's heart out and you watch it beat
and eventually it stops beating, Like we're gonna be done
with this story. No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Now we're getting this subruder film of everything this guy does. Now,
like ever every movement. Hey, he's walking out to practice.
He goes over to sign an autograph for someone and
they say, keep your head up. Well, look at his countenance.
He didn't look really enthused by that, like really, Or
here he is on the practice field while he's not
taking the reps.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Let's watch his every movement and what his eyes do.
But because of this story, we get to a great
Bowl prediction for this scene. Let's go. So today the
Panthers said, we're not trading Bryce Young and Baker Mayfield,
who knows a thing or two about I know what
it's like to be the number one pick and be
told they don't want you anymore. Put out a great
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message for him saying, hey, Bryce Young, story is not
done being written yet. It's far from finished, and he
still has wait and and he's right.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I did like that picture of him and Sam Darnold
together in Panthers uniforms that was going around.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That was pretty good. Boy. We've had guys that's just
stunk here, and then Tepper showed up in practice and
he's stuck in the sideline. Now, first things first, Okay, no,
they're not going to trade him because a he has
no trade value and B he's going to play again.
He's going to need to play again. So you can
see that we're moving on from him, right. You're sitting
him now for a while, but he's got to get
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back in. If you turn on the page and number
one overall pick in a year and a half, you
need to see him after he's had time to reset
himself and figure out the best way to get him going.
And if you still can't get him going, okay, then
you're drafting Shador Sanders or Carson Becker whoever else you want.
So that's something that he's absolutely going to play again.
He's got no of course, they're not going to trade.
(04:00):
But Mayfield's message is a good one because, look, I
completely agree. We are the land of second and third
and fourth chances. If you are a quarterback taken with
any kind of pedigree, Look how many chances you're gonna get.
Sam Darnold, Look at the chances he's getting. Geno Smith
is a furgure. All these guys, but especially if you
get picked high, teams aren't going to cut in. They're
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gonna continue to give you chances because there was a
reason why you had that high pedigree and why everybody
had you high on their draft board. They're gonna go
back to that and say, why can't this guy still
be good? So, yeah, that's a great message from Mayfield
to Bryce Young because that's exactly what's gonna happen. Bryce
Young is gonna get two or three more chances. Maybe
he has to come in somewhere as a backup, but
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eventually he's gonna find his way and playing, and he'll
find his way into the right situation. Because that's what
happens for guys taking number one overall or guys taken
in the top five or top ten of the NFL draft.
You will get that chance because We love second chance
this whole country. We love giving second, third, fourth, fifth
chances to everybody in the NFL. Well, if you're a quarterback,
you're that guy. Well, but the bigger.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Thing is that you also have the other side of
it is how many of these coaches fancy themselves geniuses
of I can fix that guy he didn't get a
fair shake with coach X y Z. It was a
defensive head coach. Or this guy was only one foot
in because the owner, he wasn't the GMS guy, all
of those kind of no, no, no, But I can go
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fix him. The guys like Shanahan or McVeigh or Sean
Payton or some of these guys that you know just
get that tag that oh no, no, they'll be able
to fix him. Canalys in theory was going to be
that guy to get immediate returns from Bryce Young. Guess what,
It's not always built in the day, especially when your
roster construction is still shoddy. Now is it improved from
(05:45):
last year? Sure, it couldn't be any worse.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I don't know they're making a run at that. I'll
just say on paper.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Coming into the year with the moves you may Johnson, Yeah,
but no, certainly the first two weeks. I mean, what
was he won for twenty one on third downs or
something like that. It's it's a miserable experience, there's no
question about it. But on paper at least coming in
while they may not have had great hope, we both
(06:16):
talked about it going. I don't know, think could be
interesting if things break right and Canalis really can.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Make it work.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Otherwise, well, this is where you're headed right down the
same path. And you got Andy Dalton to the rescue.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Good luck, good luck, but nobody. Look, he's going to
get another championship, Panthers. If they say goodbye to him,
another team will pay. Look it took Gino Smith is
in the league a decade before he got his second chance.
To bet it's done well.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Another example, right, one of the laughing stocks, because you
know it's always going to be tied to Mahomes and
the Chiefs. But Trubisky bouncing back and forth as he has,
still in a really good spot as a backup to
one of the game's greats. But he bounced from Chicago
to Buffalo to Pittsburgh back to buff Flow and we'll
(07:01):
continue to get shots because as much as folks can
be moan and point and say, well that was that,
and we saw that coming, like yeah, yeah, yeah, show
me your real draft boards.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, from twenty seventeen. Oh so we erased some of
these names and moved them down and moved them up
just and we would look good in retress. Look we
looked better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had Brady number one
overall back in two thousand. Look at the brak. We
had him here. We moved right up here, number one overall.
We you know what, we just couldn't read it in
the light. Yeah it did. It was yeah, so we
missed it. So we picked someone else instead. Now this
(07:34):
gets us to you ready for my big Bowl prediction?
Ready for this?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, after two weeks sixteen more weeks here of the
National Football League regular season, and it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Has to do with someone I just talked about. But
get ready for NFL MVP, Baker Mayfield. Get ready. That's
that Baker Mayfield NFL MVP. Now follow me now because
(08:03):
because this is this is how it breaks down, how
this happens. First of all, he's playing his best football
that he's played in his career. Right, Tampa Bay is
a fit for him. Right, we saw it. Last year,
he had a phenomenal year. He started out having a
great year this year. Right, highest rated passer in the NFL,
same up, leads a league in touchdowns. Over the first
couple of weeks. He fits. I'm not concerned that he's
(08:23):
not going to have a great year for the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. Right. He his personality, what he does, He's
able to succeed despite the fact their running game is
not great. Right, Rashaan White's a volume runner, and now
he's not even get the ball. Right now, he's in
and it doesn't matter, you know, suddenly Bucky Irving is
you know, they drafted him to be part of the
one two punch year. He's not suddenly going to carry
the ball twenty five times a game. It's gonna be
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on Mayfield's arm. And it really was on Mayfield's arm
last year and he came through. So now you're coming
off of that this season in the NFC. Who looks
like the best team through the first couple of weeks,
Tampa Bay in New Orleans. Right, New Orleans blows out
the cow Boys. I'm not a big fan of New Orleansion. Yeah,
I told you Tampa was going to the NFC Championship
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game because they're loaded. Everybody is sleeping.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
On tamp gods. Right, last year gave you what he could.
This year fully healthy, he's jumped out of the gate
and Mike Evans is as steady as they go.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's gonna be fo Mike Evans gonna be forty eight
years old. To boy, do I do I draft Mike
Evans this year? He's still starting. Tampa Bay. Uh, their
defensive line is really good. They really cause havoc and
they're going to continue to win games because they are loaded.
This team is really really good. And I know that
the the optic was, well they need to come back
(09:40):
after a couple of years for No Brady, but remember
how good they were last year. But still all the
attentions on different teams and different players. But the Tampa
Bay Bucks are going to be really, really good, and
you need that narrative that you start out the season with.
And if the if the Bucks keep starting out and
they keep winning games. They won a big game last week,
Right Mayfield a touchdown bas he had a touchdown running
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what did he say, the longest run of my life?
A leven yard touchdown run Mayfield's gonna jump out with
the narrative because in the AFC things are kind of
a mess, right, Mahomes is not really Mahomes anymore? Is
Aaron Rodgers gonna get sympathy vote for coming back if
he leads Jets to the playoffs. But Mayfield's a guy
that is coming off a big year, that is going
(10:21):
to lead his team. Who's going to be at the
top of the standings for the majority of the season.
And probably, if I say right now, because injuries are
just killing the Rams, I say, who's gonna wind up
with home field advantage for the playoffs, It'll be Tampa Bay.
And if that's the case, who's getting all the credit?
Baker Mayfield? Who's gonna win MVP? Baker Mayfields That you
can just see as the narrative continues this season, stories
(10:42):
about how his swagger it was a little misplaced with
the Browns, but it fits. He learned his lesson what
he can say, what he couldn't say, what he can
get away with in Cleveland, stuff he would do differently,
But now with another chance to lead, he's doing it here.
He's a guy that's bounced around. Then the story around
him is a great one. We thought he was going
to be this guy with Cleveland. He flamed out, He
was terrible in Carolina. He could even seize that job.
(11:05):
Now he's backing up in Tampa. But look at where
he is right now. He's one of the top last year,
one of the top seven eight quarterbacks in the league.
And now he has a chance to really grab that
by the horns and take it and take that narrative
and run. Baker Mayfield NFL MVP.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So I think the beauty of it is the narrative
talking about the redemption stories and reclamation projects in last
year seen as a all right, show me it again
kind of circumstance for him as he puts up big
numbers and loses Canalis. So there was some question from
an offensive standpoint whether they'd take a step back and
(11:40):
out of the gate. They're back where they started home
date this week. They've got the woful Broncos in so
even with some of the injury issues they're having. You
mentioned Rashan White, They've got a couple of guys defensively
that are having issues, especially on the defensive interier. Guess what,
Denver can't run the football. So even without your biggest
(12:02):
defensive players, or maybe playing at a little less than
full power bar, you still have an opportunity here, looking
at the current MVP odds, I want to have some
fun with us. Okay, sure, all right, your leader in
the clubhouse still, Patrick Mahomes, okay, sure, okay? Three to one, yeah, okay,
brayln Allen of course, yeah, okay, yeah, sure, No, it's one.
(12:23):
It's all quarterbacks for our What do we got the
elite nine I think that are on this board? Josh
Allen four, four and a half to one, CJ. Stroud
shortly behind him, and then you've got Jalen Hurt standing
by himself. Then it gets cluttered a bit with Joe Burrow,
Lamar Jackson and Brock Purty a little bit further along
(12:44):
twenty five to one. Dak Prescott sitting there at thirty
to one. What was it five to one before last
week for Dak Prestott? Oh wait a minute, move him
down now. But you can have really written the light
name right there, no question about it. But but again
Dak didn't score touchdowns in week one, right, they dominated,
but it was all Aubrey and the super toe effect
(13:07):
of thirty five from thirty seven from fifty plus all
guys not named Justin Tucker the first two weeks of
the season. So yeah, for Baker Mayfield, I mean, everything's
on the table for him in a banged up, banged
up conference, deeper than it was a year ago.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
But every team with questions, yes, and it has to be.
It's a weird year because some of the teams we
thought were going to be good or struggling little bit,
we've already had injuries.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
A ton of injuries already taken the field down. So
it's it's that that's Syrian effect. Yeah's true, Sirianni could well.
Syrian actually the most to make Kirk Cousins MVP last week.
But that's you know, it's not gonna be Barkley too
soon or Jalen Hurts. Yeah, I mean through that interception.
Yeah yeah, Like I said, you needed about twenty yards.
(13:55):
Jake Elliott, you know, he's one of those guys that
can hit from fifty plus opportunities. Man, just think about that.
Baker may crazy with that MVP. He's got it all.
It's all there for him. It is all there for him.
Guy that everybody hated, fought with all sorts of media
members fought with you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Sure, sure, hey, look that's why, that's why you should
trust me and trust us, and we talk on the show.
We're fair, We're fair with people. Now I'm coming. Hey,
this guy could be the MVP, could be the MVP
of the league. I always defeated your Mayfield, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Because you gotta let it out, you know, if you
don't let it out, and then it builds up and
then eventually explode the only one.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Who won't be happy with that to yet Hugh Jackson's
time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports from Brian Finley. But yeh, what do
you got for us? My friend yan Jason and Mike
good to be back here.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
And we've got a ton of baseball going on, including
one loan game that is still up and running. And
it is your Yankees, Jason leading.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Say my Yankees. They're not my Yankees, Just say not Yankees.
They're your dad's Yankees. Yes, not not your they're my
father's Yankees team. Yes, yes, there you go. So Yankees
are had one and nothing against the Seattle Matters. That's
our only major league baseball game still up and running
fourth inning is where they are. The Yankees are first,
of course in the AL East. They have a four
and a half game lead for first over the Ools,
(15:12):
who ended up losing at home today five to three
against the Giants. The Angels winners four to three against
Mike Carmon's White Sox. Mike Carmon's White Sox are thirty
six and one seventeen and on the White Sox social
media page on their Twitter, instead of really giving the
actual score and a graphic, they just said the other
team scored more runs than our team. Essentially to paraphrase,
(15:34):
that's pretty good. That's all they said. I'll lean exact quote.
The other team scored more runs than us. Yeah, they
weren't wrong. They weren't wrong.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
There was journalistic integrity, for sure, which is what we
do here in the new Well, that's all we do
here in the newsroom, right, Mike Winkin.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Sure not to editorialize today's events, It's beno, No, not
at all. We don't do that here.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
The Brave seven to one over the Reds the Padres.
They are first in the NL nd card race, two
and a half games in front of the second in
the NL card race. Diamondbacks four to nothing, Podgers of
the Astros and two home runs from Manny Machado and
the Astros were two hit in the game. The Dodgers
winning eight to four against the Marlins, and Choeyo Tani
(16:17):
did steal his forty ninth base of the year. He
is one stolen base shy at fifty. He still has
two home run shy at fifty to get to that
exclusive fifty to fifty club that nobody in Major League
Baseball history has been able to reach to this stage.
Twins continue to struggle. They've lost nineteen, have lost twenty
nine games. Guardians over five to four. They get it
(16:37):
done in yeah, in ten innings. Red Sox finished off
two to one win against the Rays. The Mets ten
to nothing. They take out the Nationals. The Mets are
still seven and a half game, seven and a half
games back of first place Philadelphia Phillies's.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Not nearly the story. That is the story, that's no.
The story is what's the NL wild card? Take away
the fact that you wanted. Let's go on the Mets
to me and tell everybody what the wildcard races in
the National League. Okay, praise Simonbacks Mets and Braves.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
People want to know, Yeah, both the Padres or the
Padres leader, and they got the Mets and the Diamondbacks
both two and a half games back, so they're right there.
Braves are two games back of the Diamondbacks and the Mets.
So it could be just as easily a situation where
the Mets or Diamondbacks fall out of the final three
or the top three wildcard positions. And guys, lastly, how
(17:27):
about these Tigers four.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
To two over the Royals. They sweep a case.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And not only that, but the Tigers, a team that
seemingly from reports they gave up at the deadline, they
are now a half game out of that final wildcard
spot in the American League. Jason, mike As, I work
it back to you, and I think that's pretty impressive
considering that, you know, the Tigers payroll, Jason has to
be probably about a tenth of the Mets, and they're
just as good.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Now I know the Tiger's payroll is what the Mets
are paying players this year to not play for them.
Oh okay, Tigers are paying their what the Mets are
paying Verlander and Sewser to not play for this But
that's its own thing. Okay, that's a sounder thing. That's
the whole Marlin's payroll right there, Bob, I only you know,
but I will know that everybody in Detroit believes in
(18:14):
the Tigers when I start getting Tigers texts from Pam's family, Like, Hey,
do you really think we can do this? Like because
right now, because I'm like, I get Michigan texts, I
get Lions at but no tie and time, the Tigers
are such a huge deal in Detroit. Like it's like
like there's for a long time, Tiger's the number one
team in Detroit. You're talking about football, basketball, everything else.
But I still haven't gotten any yet. I'm going, Okay,
(18:36):
they must not believe yet. Maybe they believe now, No,
they don't believe.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
The other thing is like Michigan needs to lose the
USC this week and then they'll be texting right Saturday.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, they get pushed off of that season's over.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Then it becomes a good point the Lions and whatever
the Tigers can do.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's a good point. It's a good What about the
Bears Bears? You're the Lions and Tigers and Bears? Oh
my coming up next one NFL star addresses the reports
that he has just not been good this year, and
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Speaker 1 (20:21):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
live from the tire Act dot Com studios. We get
set to kick off Week three in the NFL tomorrow night,
Jets and the Patriots. No better way to do it
than with a very good guest who joins us every
week on the show. He's a longtime NFL insider. You
can check him out on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
(20:45):
And it's great that we're having Jason Cole on tonight
because today the Pro Football Hall of Fame announced one
hundred and sixty seven modern era candidates for the class
on Wednesday, including sixteen new players. Oh yes, Jason Cole
is a Pro Football Hall of Fame slash Hall of
(21:06):
very good voter, probably responsible for half of these one
hundred and sixty seven very good players who have been
nominated for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Jordan loves How easy?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
What's happening to Ja Cale? How you doing it?
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Is beautiful? It's six no point what I couldn't get
better unless I were twins?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Oh okay, So tell me on this list of one
hundred and sixty seven players, who's number one and who's
number one sixty seven on your list?
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Oh my god, all cowboys are tied.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
For laugh No good, good job, there you go.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Okay, all all of them? Number one?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
O Cal very good. How about that? So not Bryce Young?
Speaker 7 (22:00):
But Luke No, no, okay, that's not very good. That's great.
That's Hall of Fame worthy, Luke Keithley not very good? Okay,
all right, great Hall of Fame worthy. Luke Keithley.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Found you found one hundred and sixty seven guys that
are so great they're all Hall of famers.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
No, that's great, they're not all that's not out this words.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Sound one hundred and sixty seven guys.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Stop doing that to the process. They get whittled down
from one hundred and sixty seven to twenty five and
they get mirrored down again to fifteen. So less than
ten percent of these guys are actually going to get
into the room to even be discussed, and then there's
going to be a chance at anywhere from say three
to five of them will actually make it. So distortion,
(22:46):
let's stop. That's right now.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'm going to get three D printer to whittle out
little wood carvings of all one hundred and sixty seven guys,
and then they all, as we you know, whittle down
the list, they get thrown in the fire.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
That's terrible. That's terrible.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm looking at some of the one hundred and sixty
seven people, David Boston, Keith Krepfleet. Hang on, let me
get a couple of names here, really.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Okay, what are you did not deserve this for me?
Especially from you, like who felt sorry for the Houston
Astros those cheating whatever. I don't want to get banned again,
like I don't want to get I don't want to
get cut off again in the last time. But yeah,
(23:32):
you were like cheering for cheaters.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yet no, no, it was it's all Metro.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, look the way the Padres game ended last night
with that, I know, so horrendous guy. I mean, I
don't know how you make those calls to still keep
your job as an umpire. I guess I felt weird.
I'm like, I feel bad for the Astros. What does
that say about me?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Yeah, you're worthless?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And week number one, so you told me on Twitter
I'm worthless and.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Week I know and I meant it, And that was
a very good That was a.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Very good response. By the way, there's a was a
Hall of Fame spot that's very good.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
And so yeah, I think the ghost of Angel Hernandez
took over the Empire's lost. That's I think what happened.
And then and that's funny because Angels not even dead
and it is actually supposed to be a very nice man.
So I feel bad about saying that. But yeah, like
all of a sudden, his president Dan seance at home
Plate and Angel showed.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Up multiple times.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
He question is I have an important question? So when
the Indianapolis pulls play the Chicago Bears, this is the
harmon question and they play in what is I you
know for basically the I sixty five Trophy, which is
I guess what which would award in this thing? It
feels sort of like a college game like Wisconsin playing
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against whoever their rival is, and that there should be
some trophy. Is the trophy like the loser gets Gary Yimmyanna?
Is that what happens in this one?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, that's that's not a bad Uh. It's the birthplace
ron Kittle.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Well, yeah, and Gary and Gary Pettis from there.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Too, Pettis and the Jackson's And there's a lot of Scots.
The song from the music man Gary Indiana, Gary India.
So we got that going for us too. To see
what you did? You got him singing it. It's your fault.
Coults are a one point favorite over under at forty
three and a half. That seems kind of high. That's
really high.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Forty three and a half. Is that the Bears? That's
the Bears, Bears Colts, Yeah, there's Cults number.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
That's the number, that's that's the number of sacks on
Caleb Williams. How about three and a half? How many
points by the Bears defense?
Speaker 7 (25:35):
What's the over under? What's the over under on the completion?
The completion percentage between Anthony Richardson and Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Four who I'll have to go.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
Look at him.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Four percent.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Yeah, well, I'm going to say not more than fifty
four is a good number for that, And like that's
that's an ugly battle between two guys who really need
to learn how to play at this level. I really
do think Caleb Williams them is fine. So I just
think he's learning. Oh oh, defensive players actually exist in
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this league. I thought I thought this was a lot
like the PAC twelve, you know, where defense has just disappeared,
like the rest of the conference.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
See. I keep telling Harmon the same thing. The Bears
are going to be fine. The defense is fantastic, you
have playmakers. He's kind of on the Jordan Love type curve.
Get it. By the middle of the season, he's going
to be really good. Harmon doesn't believe you, or he
doesn't want to believe me.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Well, I mean, if you had lived Harmon's life as
a Bears fan, you wouldn't think, you know, you would
never think you had nice things either, especially at the
quarterback position. I mean, the man point watched Jake Cuttler
and whatever collection of guys Dave wants that we have
put under center all those years. You know, like Rick
Myer was in here there for a little while or
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something like that. I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Just like, no matter what, the word bears comes up
and your brain defaults to Wanston.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Jason. Here's the thing. No, no, no, a lot of things.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Well it's true that no, no, that is absolutely one
thousand percent true that I just default to ragging on
once at any chance, I guess that is absolutely one
thousand percent true. Do you think I can sell the
old money?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Do you think I could sell shirts that say all
the pieces are in place?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Yes? Absolutely? Yes? Oh my god, what a knuckle ahead. Anyways,
moving along, what what? What else? Did you? Where else
were you going to? What were you doing?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, as we were talking about Bryce Young in the beginning,
and you know here every getting benched after two weeks,
they said today they're not going to trade him. At
some point he's getting back out there this year, right,
Like I know the Panthers are not run great, but
at some point they know they're going to put him
back out there after a research just to make sure
he's really not great.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
You know, I'm over the eighty thousand years I've watched football. Actually, yeah,
there's a lot of football. We're now on. You're thirty
three of me doing this There's always been this thing
about when guys look small in the pocket, it's a
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real danger signed to me, like they're hunched over. They
don't know, you know, they don't look comfortable. I remember
watching He's Schuler, who was like six foot four or
something like that, and he looked like he was five eleven.
When I watch Bryce Young, and I know he's not
very big, he's from five to nine, five ten, maybe
five eleven. He looks like he's five six he looks
(28:34):
or five to five. He looks like he's shrinking every
single time I see him. And not only is he short,
but he looks physically tiny. I don't know that he
knows how to attack downfield right now. I don't think
he can see downfield unless he's outside the pocket. And
when he's outside the pocket and trying to make him play,
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the speed of the game accelerates so much. He's not
ready for it. So yeah, do I think ultimately Bryce
Young is going to get back out on the field. Yeah,
But I don't think he. I don't think he has
any sense of what you have to do. You have
to attack downfield as a passer, like they have less
than what was under two minutes to go in the
(29:19):
first half, and they just kind of get in positioned
to get trying to get a fieldal or something like that.
He threw underneath the defense on three straight plays. It
was like check down, check down, and then check down.
And it's like, dude, that doesn't get it done. That
didn't get it done when you were at Modern Day.
I didn't get it done at Alabama. Why do you
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think that that's going to work here? And even the
fans they're flashing into the stands of the stands and
they're standing there going, dude, throw it downfield. I mean,
he just can't do it. So I'm coming quickly to
the conclusion that unless something seriously changes, he's done. And
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like I mean by that, I mean completely done. It's
completely to I mean, I'll mop around the league for
a few years and people try and see if they
can get something out of him, but I just think
he's in over his head physically right now.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Well, it's good to see Tepper on these sidelines, a
practice that's going to help a lot of stuff. Let's
stay in division, though, What the hell's going on in
New Orleans? What's in the water.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
It's an amazing thing when you decide to like move
players before the snap and help your quarterback to figure
out what the defense is doing. It's a shocking thing
because like they went from the least amount of pre
snap movement a year ago. They bring in Clinton Koback
and they now have the most pre snap movement in
the league because they're doing what Shanahan and all the
(30:49):
Shanahan disciples are doing and saying, here, let's move guys
around so that our quarterback will get keys. Right. So
Derek Carr, who's a very good quarterback there Ago Smithsie,
he's a very good player. That was for you specifically,
he's a very good player. He actually can play better
than normal and better than last year because he's getting
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information before the staff. It's an amazing thing that you
do for quarterbacks. And like Mike McCarthy took years and
years and years to figure this out, and he started
doing it more when he got to Dallas, but he
was really resistant to it. He's changed and could you
imagine what would have happened if they had given more
(31:34):
movement in the offense to Aaron Rodgers, who already knows
more than you know nine percent of it all the
guys have ever played the position. If he'd made it
just easier for that guy to figure out how to play. So, like,
the Saints are doing a really nice job. They've got
solid offensive line and really good weapons. I mean, those
wide receivers are terrific. A lobby just I mean, he's
(31:58):
a man like that. I just I love what they've got.
And now they're allowing the quarterback to play up instead
of play down.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So you say all that about the Saints, and I
just counted with I think the Cowboys might just stink.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
The Cowboys. The Cowboys. It just prosts more and more
of what I always say, as soon as they start
to look good, as soon as you buy intos the
BS type, and they they oh, we just we just
destroyed Cleveland on the road, and then they and they
just get punched in the mouth. They just absolutely get
(32:36):
punched in the mouth. Because like I'm sure Jerry was like,
you know, doing the itinerary for the Super Bowl before
the last game, right, trying to figure out, oh, well,
we're gonna have a parade, we're gonna leave, We're gonna
leave like ten days, and we've got to make sure
that we have the cowboyd bus on site when I
get there, because we got rolled through town with the
(32:58):
Cowboy bus.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I'm gonna do a Median Knight from the bush.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
We got big parties to get to. We got a
lot of stuff to do, and so, you know, and
then he's gonna, you know, think about how do you
how do you bring the bees to the Super Bowl?
Like where do the bees go? You know, where do
you put all the hives? You know? Do they go
on the bus? Do they go on the top of
the bus. And so do the bees like roll through
town on the cowboy bus so that they can party
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with with Jerry and the rest of the family. Like
these are the important things that Jerry was thinking about
before game two of the seasons, right, Like that's that's
how that went. And then they get punched them out,
and I'm thinking that they probably believe that they can,
you know, roll past Baltimore. I think Baltimore is going
to kind of just hammer them because Baltimore is not
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what they like. And I know Baltimore's offensive line is
tragically bad right now, but their defense, I think is
going to be really angry and want to punish some
people and offensively the Cowboys don't really move anybody. They're
not physical on offense.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Cole sixty two. Jay call is always bunny.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
All Cowboys, All Cowboys rank last.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He's got them all one through one sixty seven. It's
his own version of the NCAA tournament. Jay Cole, Take
it easy, buddy. We'll talk to you later, see about it.
That was some very good analysis. That was good under
one sixty seven. I now likes the Saints. Let's get
a very good update on what's going on in the
wide rble sports. Look at Bryan Finley, b Yeah, what
(34:39):
do you got.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
From one sixty seven to Mike Carmen's White Sox.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
With one seventeen?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Is that the amount of losses they have now just
saved to say that they have been eliminated. We look,
we're looking at Major League Baseball, and yeah, eliminated from
the postseason. The White Sox losing today and they did
it in thirteen innings to the Angels, and it's thirty
six to two or thirty six wins, one hundred and
seventeen losses. That is fifty two games back of first
(35:05):
place Cleveland Guardians, by the way, that would be in
the AL Central. But speaking of the NL Central, it
is all locked up for the Milwaukee Brewers, and they
did it without having to know whether or not they'd
win their game today because before they started their game
they ended up winning against the Phillies. But it was
the Cubs, they're nemesis in the division, losing to the
Oakland Asian oother team that is not going to be
(35:26):
postseason bound. But five to three wins for the A's
over the Cubs, Mariners, and Yankees. That's the only game
that's up and running right now. The Yankees are in front,
one and nothing in the seventh inning. Yanks, of course
leading the way in the AL East. They have a
four and a half game lead for first over the
Baltimore Orioles. Baltimore losing five to three at the hands
(35:48):
of the Giants, the Braves over the Red seven to one.
The Padres got some big hitting from Manny Machado.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Three and two to Machado many swings hit it to
the air to left field deep. Albarez is back, he's
looking up. It's gonna go.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Hey, anything you can do, I can do better.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
But Jatta with his second of the day.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
He and Fernando go back to back.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
That would be Padres or Radio networking. Four to nothing
is the final there, and yeah, Manny Machado had two
home runs, by the way, in the game. The Padres
first in the NL wildcard race. They have a two
and a half game lead for first in that with
a tyer second with Mike Carmon's well, not Mike Carmons,
it would be Jason Smith Mets. They're there along with
the Diamondback speaking the Mets ten and nothing over the Nationals,
(36:36):
Mets getting the win there with eleven hits. And then lastly, guys,
let's not forget about those Detroit Tigers four to two
over the Royals. That was a sweep against Kansas City
and the Tigers are just a half game out of
that third and final wildcard spot in the AL. And Jason,
I know that if your Mets, in some way, shape
or form do not make the postseason, because you know
(37:00):
they're known to fade at the end of seasons, maybe
you're going to be a Tigers fan because I know
you have family roots in the Detroit There is my
second team.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I mean about the city of Detroit. My second teams
are all Detroit teams. Yeah, that is how it goes. Yeah,
I'll be on the Tiger's bandwagon. Sure, why not? Dirt
bag megas Tigers World Series? Get ready?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Get a family? Did and then you can't go home
for Christmas? Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Well, it depends depends how the game goes, depends how
the World Series goes. Either way, you'll have been on
air for hours at a time shouting angry things at
the Detroit people. No, no, no, no, no, no, I would,
I would hide that under under other things. I have
to go there.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I have to play be that after people at the
But I'm here four hours a night to go, Juan,
to see such things.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I gotta be able to go to playing you with cheeseburgers,
I got. I gotta be able to go to Detroit.
There's nowhere else I'm gonna get frozen cussed in white
Castle people still go. I think we could probably pull
that off. But come on now, coming up next, Mike
and I give you our picks for Thursday night football.
What's a name that everybody's gonna be talking about after
Tomorrow night? We'll tell you. We'll tell you next right here,
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Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. Cleveland is not playing
Alex Tyscher. Are you sure they're not playing?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Maybe somewhere, yeah, but not tomorrow night. You know that
there's multiple dimensions out there, right there are, and Earth
ten thousand and five, where Wolverine came from, Cleveland is playing. Yeah,
they're playing Toronto. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
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Speaker 1 (38:39):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the Tireck dot Com studios. And look, we
spent some time last couple of nights talking about how
much trouble the Chiefs offense is in When you decide
we're okay with Harrison, Butker kicking a fifty one yardfield goal,
you want to run the ball twice instead of getting
close on the final drive against the Bengals. You know
(39:03):
that Andy Reid feels a certain way about his offense,
certain way about Patrick Mahomes, and most likely a certain
way about Travis Kelcey. Well today on his In the
Heights podcast that he did with that. In the Heights,
he talked about how his slow star Travis Kelsey won
catch five yards against the Bengals on Sunday is all
on him.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
There's a lot of things that have to go right
for anybody to get the ball. You know, it's just
for whatever reason these past two games, it hasn't gone
that way for me. And that's football, man. I'm not
about to sit here and get frustrated about it. I
used to get really really pissed off and I almost
lose my cool a lot of the time from not
having that success, knowing I'd demand that out of myself,
(39:43):
and it's tough.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
For me to deal with being mediocre.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
The Taylor Swift curse is real. We've done to Danny
Taylor Swift yet, jeez, Yoko, the band is breaking up now.
Oh my goodness, look at we won the Super Bowl
and we're two and oh it doesn't matter. Look at
what's going on with Travis Kelsey, and you know he
would be so pissed off. Someone said that, do you
(40:09):
think it started the trouble starting with Danny Taylor Swift?
Do you think there' trouble start?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I think there's plenty of folks that you were great,
and now boy you're you're on my fantasy team, so
I can tell you I haven't been great. I didn't
even get you a thousand yards, dude, I was sixteen short.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
What do you want from me? But I'll tell you this,
and I'll tell you exactly why he's struggling. And it's
not a lot of it is just when you're going
to be thirty five years old on the tight end,
you only have so much left. Like how much did
Gronk have left? He was a great tight end before
he wound up having to hang it up. And they're
both very similar. And without looking at all the All
(40:43):
twenty two film for the Chiefs, I could tell you
a couple of things. Number One, they're not throwing the
ball as much as they used to, so there's gonna
be less out there. Right. They're running the ball more
for whoever reason, Andy Reid has decided I want to
run the football. Okay, you know my homes is your quarterback.
But so there's whenever you run the ball more, that's
less passing plays. But Kelsey has always been able to
(41:04):
create space, right, that's him and that's Rob Gronkowski. Somehow
they're able to run free across the field over the
course of their career, and someone get and the linebacker
loses them or the safety loses them. Now, Kelsey's a
little bit more talented than Gronk in that he can
make more of the big catches in tight coverage. But
the fact that he's not getting targets. Are you talking
(41:26):
about one catch for five yards? His targets are all
the way down for seven targets. I guarantee you this.
I guarantee with that. I look and I can guarantee
you this. He doesn't have the separation that he once did.
He doesn't have set because if he had the separation,
Mahomes would throw to him. I mean, it's that simple. Again,
I haven't watched you all twenty two film, but I
know how Travis Kelsey gets open. Watching the game on Sunday,
there was no time when I said, boy, Kelsey was
(41:48):
wide open there. Boy, how do you not see kel
Of course he's looking for Kelsey first. There's nobody else
he's throwing to Kelsey if Ke's If Kelsey's not getting
the ball, it's because he doesn't have the separation anymore,
which is just what happens when you're going to be
thirty five years old and you're a tight end in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
You also can scheme it up when you're lou on
Aumo getting after it, and.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
We we extole the virtues.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Of his game planning and and what he's done for
the Cincinnati defense. So some of that is going to
be take Kelsey away, make someone else beat us.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Right, they won him, but they tried. They tried to
take him away for the last six years. Got to
take him.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Away then kind of slips a bit, and your offensive
line maybe not as cohesive the run game while you're
trying to run the football. To your point, my home
has only tried fifty three pass attempts in two weeks.
Three interceptions. It used to be one game for him, right,
a couple of he's already gotten, you know, two touchdown
(42:44):
passes of at least twenty plus yards, which I think
matches all of last year or some ridiculous stat like that.
But you're looking at the like it's feeling out process.
In September, we talked about it a little bit, you know,
the old Patriots way of right, first quarter, let's do this.
I think most of the NFL to some degree, that's it.
You want to come in with, you know, full on
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zero to sixty in two seconds flat. It's not happening
anymore because you're not playing in the preseason, you're not
getting reps.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
And for Kelsey, you know, some of it is rounding
back into full on shape. Right. He took I mean
he took a lot of the summer off, right. But
you would also thought that last year at some point
he would have hit at the end of last year
and suddenly become you know, the beast that he had been.
But he wasn't. But towards the playoffs you got you
got a different Kelsey. But guys that when to get
to be tight ends, they age really quick. Man, when
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you're thirty.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Fortunately, yeah, he doesn't have the laundry list of injuries
that granted, remember Gronk wasn't supposed to play at all. No,
when the Patriots drafted it was like this guy's already
had put it in new back.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
You say, you've seen his back, My good, what are
you doing? But look tight Ends, Hey, you go to
your thirty thirty one and when you're the say, he's
he's already in bonus times. But sometime. I guarantee you
he just hasn't gotten the separation because he would have
gotten the ball.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Is that simple? Coming up next, two crazy stories out
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I really I didn't expect it to go this long,
(01:10):
kind of like the Venom trilogy. Like I thought, Okay,
we're gonna be done after one of these, but instead, now,
oh no, no, we got a third one Popcorn bocket
Yeah yeah, yeah, man like that. Yeah, no, I'll go
see it. Well, I mean, it's all so I could
go to the movies. But really I thought, okay, you
know Venom. Okay, one movie, Yeah, then we're gonna move on. No, no, no,
we're back for another one. Okay, all right, another one. Okay,
(01:31):
it's still kind of fun and and okay and and
uh uh football is life, isn't it at the end? Okay?
And now okay, now we're done. Oh no, no, no, we're
getting the third one.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Just remember this, all right, it's not Is this good
for your eyes and make you entertained? Is it good
for the bottom line? I mean really, if it's positive,
then it keeps getting made.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I mean really, I'll get really nervous if morebus two
we get one of those, I'm gonna get nervous for that.
But I was a nerd. I kind of enjoyed it. Yeah,
you know what I went in expecting absolutely no, that's true. Yeah,
expect nothing. You every discip I got something. So this
is what kind of gets me because we're still this
Bryce Young story still has a beating heart. Three days later,
(02:15):
there's a lot of anger, and I thought it's gonna
be like at some point, like in a movie when
someone pulls someone's heart out and you watch it beat
and eventually it stops beating, Like we're gonna be done
with this story. No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Now we're getting this subruder film of everything this guy does. Now,
like ever every movement. Hey, he's walking out to practice.
He goes over to sign an autograph for someone and
they say, keep your head up. Well, look at his countenance.
He didn't look really enthused by that, like really, Or
here he is on the practice field while he's not
taking the reps.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Let's watch his every movement and what his eyes do.
But because of this story, we get to a great
Bowl prediction for this scene. Let's go. So today the
Panthers said, we're not trading Bryce Young and Baker Mayfield,
who knows a thing or two about I know what
it's like to be the number one pick and be
told they don't want you anymore. Put out a great
(03:06):
message for him saying, hey, Bryce Young, story is not
done being written yet. It's far from finished, and he
still has wait and and he's right.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I did like that picture of him and Sam Darnold
together in Panthers uniforms that was going around.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That was pretty good. Boy. We've had guys that's just
stunk here, and then Tepper showed up in practice and
he's stuck in the sideline. Now, first things first, Okay, no,
they're not going to trade him because a he has
no trade value and B he's going to play again.
He's going to need to play again. So you can
see that we're moving on from him, right. You're sitting
him now for a while, but he's got to get
(03:40):
back in. If you turn on the page and number
one overall pick in a year and a half, you
need to see him after he's had time to reset
himself and figure out the best way to get him going.
And if you still can't get him going, okay, then
you're drafting Shador Sanders or Carson Becker whoever else you want.
So that's something that he's absolutely going to play again.
He's got no of course, they're not going to trade.
(04:00):
But Mayfield's message is a good one because, look, I
completely agree. We are the land of second and third
and fourth chances. If you are a quarterback taken with
any kind of pedigree, Look how many chances you're gonna get.
Sam Darnold, Look at the chances he's getting. Geno Smith
is a furgure. All these guys, but especially if you
get picked high, teams aren't going to cut in. They're
(04:23):
gonna continue to give you chances because there was a
reason why you had that high pedigree and why everybody
had you high on their draft board. They're gonna go
back to that and say, why can't this guy still
be good? So, yeah, that's a great message from Mayfield
to Bryce Young because that's exactly what's gonna happen. Bryce
Young is gonna get two or three more chances. Maybe
he has to come in somewhere as a backup, but
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eventually he's gonna find his way and playing, and he'll
find his way into the right situation. Because that's what
happens for guys taking number one overall or guys taken
in the top five or top ten of the NFL draft.
You will get that chance because We love second chance
this whole country. We love giving second, third, fourth, fifth
chances to everybody in the NFL. Well, if you're a quarterback,
you're that guy. Well, but the bigger.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Thing is that you also have the other side of
it is how many of these coaches fancy themselves geniuses
of I can fix that guy he didn't get a
fair shake with coach X y Z. It was a
defensive head coach. Or this guy was only one foot
in because the owner, he wasn't the GMS guy, all
of those kind of no, no, no, But I can go
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fix him. The guys like Shanahan or McVeigh or Sean
Payton or some of these guys that you know just
get that tag that oh no, no, they'll be able
to fix him. Canalys in theory was going to be
that guy to get immediate returns from Bryce Young. Guess what,
It's not always built in the day, especially when your
roster construction is still shoddy. Now is it improved from
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last year? Sure, it couldn't be any worse.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I don't know they're making a run at that. I'll
just say on paper.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Coming into the year with the moves you may Johnson, Yeah,
but no, certainly the first two weeks. I mean, what
was he won for twenty one on third downs or
something like that. It's it's a miserable experience, there's no
question about it. But on paper at least coming in
while they may not have had great hope, we both
(06:16):
talked about it going. I don't know, think could be
interesting if things break right and Canalis really can.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Make it work.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Otherwise, well, this is where you're headed right down the
same path. And you got Andy Dalton to the rescue.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Good luck, good luck, but nobody. Look, he's going to
get another championship, Panthers. If they say goodbye to him,
another team will pay. Look it took Gino Smith is
in the league a decade before he got his second chance.
To bet it's done well.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Another example, right, one of the laughing stocks, because you
know it's always going to be tied to Mahomes and
the Chiefs. But Trubisky bouncing back and forth as he has,
still in a really good spot as a backup to
one of the game's greats. But he bounced from Chicago
to Buffalo to Pittsburgh back to buff Flow and we'll
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continue to get shots because as much as folks can
be moan and point and say, well that was that,
and we saw that coming, like yeah, yeah, yeah, show
me your real draft boards.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, from twenty seventeen. Oh so we erased some of
these names and moved them down and moved them up
just and we would look good in retress. Look we
looked better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had Brady number one
overall back in two thousand. Look at the brak. We
had him here. We moved right up here, number one overall.
We you know what, we just couldn't read it in
the light. Yeah it did. It was yeah, so we
missed it. So we picked someone else instead. Now this
(07:34):
gets us to you ready for my big Bowl prediction?
Ready for this?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, after two weeks sixteen more weeks here of the
National Football League regular season, and it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Has to do with someone I just talked about. But
get ready for NFL MVP, Baker Mayfield. Get ready. That's
that Baker Mayfield NFL MVP. Now follow me now because
(08:03):
because this is this is how it breaks down, how
this happens. First of all, he's playing his best football
that he's played in his career. Right, Tampa Bay is
a fit for him. Right, we saw it. Last year,
he had a phenomenal year. He started out having a
great year this year. Right, highest rated passer in the NFL,
same up, leads a league in touchdowns. Over the first
couple of weeks. He fits. I'm not concerned that he's
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not going to have a great year for the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. Right. He his personality, what he does, He's
able to succeed despite the fact their running game is
not great. Right, Rashaan White's a volume runner, and now
he's not even get the ball. Right now, he's in
and it doesn't matter, you know, suddenly Bucky Irving is
you know, they drafted him to be part of the
one two punch year. He's not suddenly going to carry
the ball twenty five times a game. It's gonna be
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on Mayfield's arm. And it really was on Mayfield's arm
last year and he came through. So now you're coming
off of that this season in the NFC. Who looks
like the best team through the first couple of weeks,
Tampa Bay in New Orleans. Right, New Orleans blows out
the cow Boys. I'm not a big fan of New Orleansion. Yeah,
I told you Tampa was going to the NFC Championship
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game because they're loaded. Everybody is sleeping.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
On tamp gods. Right, last year gave you what he could.
This year fully healthy, he's jumped out of the gate
and Mike Evans is as steady as they go.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's gonna be fo Mike Evans gonna be forty eight
years old. To boy, do I do I draft Mike
Evans this year? He's still starting. Tampa Bay. Uh, their
defensive line is really good. They really cause havoc and
they're going to continue to win games because they are loaded.
This team is really really good. And I know that
the the optic was, well they need to come back
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after a couple of years for No Brady, but remember
how good they were last year. But still all the
attentions on different teams and different players. But the Tampa
Bay Bucks are going to be really, really good, and
you need that narrative that you start out the season with.
And if the if the Bucks keep starting out and
they keep winning games. They won a big game last week,
Right Mayfield a touchdown bas he had a touchdown running
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what did he say, the longest run of my life?
A leven yard touchdown run Mayfield's gonna jump out with
the narrative because in the AFC things are kind of
a mess, right, Mahomes is not really Mahomes anymore? Is
Aaron Rodgers gonna get sympathy vote for coming back if
he leads Jets to the playoffs. But Mayfield's a guy
that is coming off a big year, that is going
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to lead his team. Who's going to be at the
top of the standings for the majority of the season.
And probably, if I say right now, because injuries are
just killing the Rams, I say, who's gonna wind up
with home field advantage for the playoffs, It'll be Tampa Bay.
And if that's the case, who's getting all the credit?
Baker Mayfield? Who's gonna win MVP? Baker Mayfields That you
can just see as the narrative continues this season, stories
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about how his swagger it was a little misplaced with
the Browns, but it fits. He learned his lesson what
he can say, what he couldn't say, what he can
get away with in Cleveland, stuff he would do differently,
But now with another chance to lead, he's doing it here.
He's a guy that's bounced around. Then the story around
him is a great one. We thought he was going
to be this guy with Cleveland. He flamed out, He
was terrible in Carolina. He could even seize that job.
(11:05):
Now he's backing up in Tampa. But look at where
he is right now. He's one of the top last year,
one of the top seven eight quarterbacks in the league.
And now he has a chance to really grab that
by the horns and take it and take that narrative
and run. Baker Mayfield NFL MVP.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So I think the beauty of it is the narrative
talking about the redemption stories and reclamation projects in last
year seen as a all right, show me it again
kind of circumstance for him as he puts up big
numbers and loses Canalis. So there was some question from
an offensive standpoint whether they'd take a step back and
(11:40):
out of the gate. They're back where they started home
date this week. They've got the woful Broncos in so
even with some of the injury issues they're having. You
mentioned Rashan White, They've got a couple of guys defensively
that are having issues, especially on the defensive interier. Guess what,
Denver can't run the football. So even without your biggest
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defensive players, or maybe playing at a little less than
full power bar, you still have an opportunity here, looking
at the current MVP odds, I want to have some
fun with us. Okay, sure, all right, your leader in
the clubhouse still, Patrick Mahomes, okay, sure, okay? Three to one, yeah, okay,
brayln Allen of course, yeah, okay, yeah, sure, No, it's one.
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It's all quarterbacks for our What do we got the
elite nine I think that are on this board? Josh
Allen four, four and a half to one, CJ. Stroud
shortly behind him, and then you've got Jalen Hurt standing
by himself. Then it gets cluttered a bit with Joe Burrow,
Lamar Jackson and Brock Purty a little bit further along
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twenty five to one. Dak Prescott sitting there at thirty
to one. What was it five to one before last
week for Dak Prestott? Oh wait a minute, move him
down now. But you can have really written the light
name right there, no question about it. But but again
Dak didn't score touchdowns in week one, right, they dominated,
but it was all Aubrey and the super toe effect
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of thirty five from thirty seven from fifty plus all
guys not named Justin Tucker the first two weeks of
the season. So yeah, for Baker Mayfield, I mean, everything's
on the table for him in a banged up, banged
up conference, deeper than it was a year ago.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
But every team with questions, yes, and it has to be.
It's a weird year because some of the teams we
thought were going to be good or struggling little bit,
we've already had injuries.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
A ton of injuries already taken the field down. So
it's it's that that's Syrian effect. Yeah's true, Sirianni could well.
Syrian actually the most to make Kirk Cousins MVP last week.
But that's you know, it's not gonna be Barkley too
soon or Jalen Hurts. Yeah, I mean through that interception.
Yeah yeah, Like I said, you needed about twenty yards.
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Jake Elliott, you know, he's one of those guys that
can hit from fifty plus opportunities. Man, just think about that.
Baker may crazy with that MVP. He's got it all.
It's all there for him. It is all there for him.
Guy that everybody hated, fought with all sorts of media
members fought with you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Sure, sure, hey, look that's why, that's why you should
trust me and trust us, and we talk on the show.
We're fair, We're fair with people. Now I'm coming. Hey,
this guy could be the MVP, could be the MVP
of the league. I always defeated your Mayfield, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Because you gotta let it out, you know, if you
don't let it out, and then it builds up and
then eventually explode the only one.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Who won't be happy with that to yet Hugh Jackson's
time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports from Brian Finley. But yeh, what do
you got for us? My friend yan Jason and Mike
good to be back here.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
And we've got a ton of baseball going on, including
one loan game that is still up and running. And
it is your Yankees, Jason leading.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Say my Yankees. They're not my Yankees, Just say not Yankees.
They're your dad's Yankees. Yes, not not your they're my
father's Yankees team. Yes, yes, there you go. So Yankees
are had one and nothing against the Seattle Matters. That's
our only major league baseball game still up and running
fourth inning is where they are. The Yankees are first,
of course in the AL East. They have a four
and a half game lead for first over the Ools,
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who ended up losing at home today five to three
against the Giants. The Angels winners four to three against
Mike Carmon's White Sox. Mike Carmon's White Sox are thirty
six and one seventeen and on the White Sox social
media page on their Twitter, instead of really giving the
actual score and a graphic, they just said the other
team scored more runs than our team. Essentially to paraphrase,
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that's pretty good. That's all they said. I'll lean exact quote.
The other team scored more runs than us. Yeah, they
weren't wrong. They weren't wrong.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
There was journalistic integrity, for sure, which is what we
do here in the new Well, that's all we do
here in the newsroom, right, Mike Winkin.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Sure not to editorialize today's events, It's beno, No, not
at all. We don't do that here.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
The Brave seven to one over the Reds the Padres.
They are first in the NL nd card race, two
and a half games in front of the second in
the NL card race. Diamondbacks four to nothing, Podgers of
the Astros and two home runs from Manny Machado and
the Astros were two hit in the game. The Dodgers
winning eight to four against the Marlins, and Choeyo Tani
(16:17):
did steal his forty ninth base of the year. He
is one stolen base shy at fifty. He still has
two home run shy at fifty to get to that
exclusive fifty to fifty club that nobody in Major League
Baseball history has been able to reach to this stage.
Twins continue to struggle. They've lost nineteen, have lost twenty
nine games. Guardians over five to four. They get it
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done in yeah, in ten innings. Red Sox finished off
two to one win against the Rays. The Mets ten
to nothing. They take out the Nationals. The Mets are
still seven and a half game, seven and a half
games back of first place Philadelphia Phillies's.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Not nearly the story. That is the story, that's no.
The story is what's the NL wild card? Take away
the fact that you wanted. Let's go on the Mets
to me and tell everybody what the wildcard races in
the National League. Okay, praise Simonbacks Mets and Braves.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
People want to know, Yeah, both the Padres or the
Padres leader, and they got the Mets and the Diamondbacks
both two and a half games back, so they're right there.
Braves are two games back of the Diamondbacks and the Mets.
So it could be just as easily a situation where
the Mets or Diamondbacks fall out of the final three
or the top three wildcard positions. And guys, lastly, how
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about these Tigers four.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
To two over the Royals. They sweep a case.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And not only that, but the Tigers, a team that
seemingly from reports they gave up at the deadline, they
are now a half game out of that final wildcard
spot in the American League. Jason, mike As, I work
it back to you, and I think that's pretty impressive
considering that, you know, the Tigers payroll, Jason has to
be probably about a tenth of the Mets, and they're
just as good.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Now I know the Tiger's payroll is what the Mets
are paying players this year to not play for them.
Oh okay, Tigers are paying their what the Mets are
paying Verlander and Sewser to not play for this But
that's its own thing. Okay, that's a sounder thing. That's
the whole Marlin's payroll right there, Bob, I only you know,
but I will know that everybody in Detroit believes in
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the Tigers when I start getting Tigers texts from Pam's family, Like, Hey,
do you really think we can do this? Like because
right now, because I'm like, I get Michigan texts, I
get Lions at but no tie and time, the Tigers
are such a huge deal in Detroit. Like it's like
like there's for a long time, Tiger's the number one
team in Detroit. You're talking about football, basketball, everything else.
But I still haven't gotten any yet. I'm going, Okay,
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they must not believe yet. Maybe they believe now, No,
they don't believe.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
The other thing is like Michigan needs to lose the
USC this week and then they'll be texting right Saturday.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, they get pushed off of that season's over.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Then it becomes a good point the Lions and whatever
the Tigers can do.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's a good point. It's a good What about the
Bears Bears? You're the Lions and Tigers and Bears? Oh
my coming up next one NFL star addresses the reports
that he has just not been good this year, and
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Speaker 2 (19:11):
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Speaker 5 (19:19):
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Speaker 5 (19:24):
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Speaker 5 (19:41):
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Speaker 5 (20:00):
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Speaker 1 (20:21):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
live from the tire Act dot Com studios. We get
set to kick off Week three in the NFL tomorrow night,
Jets and the Patriots. No better way to do it
than with a very good guest who joins us every
week on the show. He's a longtime NFL insider. You
can check him out on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
(20:45):
And it's great that we're having Jason Cole on tonight
because today the Pro Football Hall of Fame announced one
hundred and sixty seven modern era candidates for the class
on Wednesday, including sixteen new players. Oh yes, Jason Cole
is a Pro Football Hall of Fame slash Hall of
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very good voter, probably responsible for half of these one
hundred and sixty seven very good players who have been
nominated for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Jordan loves How easy?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
What's happening to Ja Cale? How you doing it?
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Is beautiful? It's six no point what I couldn't get
better unless I were twins?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Oh okay, So tell me on this list of one
hundred and sixty seven players, who's number one and who's
number one sixty seven on your list?
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Oh my god, all cowboys are tied.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
For laugh No good, good job, there you go.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Okay, all all of them? Number one?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
O Cal very good. How about that? So not Bryce Young?
Speaker 7 (22:00):
But Luke No, no, okay, that's not very good. That's great.
That's Hall of Fame worthy, Luke Keithley not very good? Okay,
all right, great Hall of Fame worthy. Luke Keithley.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Found you found one hundred and sixty seven guys that
are so great they're all Hall of famers.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
No, that's great, they're not all that's not out this words.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Sound one hundred and sixty seven guys.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Stop doing that to the process. They get whittled down
from one hundred and sixty seven to twenty five and
they get mirrored down again to fifteen. So less than
ten percent of these guys are actually going to get
into the room to even be discussed, and then there's
going to be a chance at anywhere from say three
to five of them will actually make it. So distortion,
(22:46):
let's stop. That's right now.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'm going to get three D printer to whittle out
little wood carvings of all one hundred and sixty seven guys,
and then they all, as we you know, whittle down
the list, they get thrown in the fire.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
That's terrible. That's terrible.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm looking at some of the one hundred and sixty
seven people, David Boston, Keith Krepfleet. Hang on, let me
get a couple of names here, really.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Okay, what are you did not deserve this for me?
Especially from you, like who felt sorry for the Houston
Astros those cheating whatever. I don't want to get banned again,
like I don't want to get I don't want to
get cut off again in the last time. But yeah,
(23:32):
you were like cheering for cheaters.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yet no, no, it was it's all Metro.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, look the way the Padres game ended last night
with that, I know, so horrendous guy. I mean, I
don't know how you make those calls to still keep
your job as an umpire. I guess I felt weird.
I'm like, I feel bad for the Astros. What does
that say about me?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Yeah, you're worthless?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And week number one, so you told me on Twitter
I'm worthless and.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Week I know and I meant it, And that was
a very good That was a.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Very good response. By the way, there's a was a
Hall of Fame spot that's very good.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
And so yeah, I think the ghost of Angel Hernandez
took over the Empire's lost. That's I think what happened.
And then and that's funny because Angels not even dead
and it is actually supposed to be a very nice man.
So I feel bad about saying that. But yeah, like
all of a sudden, his president Dan seance at home
Plate and Angel showed.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Up multiple times.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
He question is I have an important question? So when
the Indianapolis pulls play the Chicago Bears, this is the
harmon question and they play in what is I you
know for basically the I sixty five Trophy, which is
I guess what which would award in this thing? It
feels sort of like a college game like Wisconsin playing
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against whoever their rival is, and that there should be
some trophy. Is the trophy like the loser gets Gary Yimmyanna?
Is that what happens in this one?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, that's that's not a bad Uh. It's the birthplace
ron Kittle.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Well, yeah, and Gary and Gary Pettis from there.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Too, Pettis and the Jackson's And there's a lot of Scots.
The song from the music man Gary Indiana, Gary India.
So we got that going for us too. To see
what you did? You got him singing it. It's your fault.
Coults are a one point favorite over under at forty
three and a half. That seems kind of high. That's
really high.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Forty three and a half. Is that the Bears? That's
the Bears, Bears Colts, Yeah, there's Cults number.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
That's the number, that's that's the number of sacks on
Caleb Williams. How about three and a half? How many
points by the Bears defense?
Speaker 7 (25:35):
What's the over under? What's the over under on the completion?
The completion percentage between Anthony Richardson and Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Four who I'll have to go.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
Look at him.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Four percent.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Yeah, well, I'm going to say not more than fifty
four is a good number for that, And like that's
that's an ugly battle between two guys who really need
to learn how to play at this level. I really
do think Caleb Williams them is fine. So I just
think he's learning. Oh oh, defensive players actually exist in
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this league. I thought I thought this was a lot
like the PAC twelve, you know, where defense has just disappeared,
like the rest of the conference.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
See. I keep telling Harmon the same thing. The Bears
are going to be fine. The defense is fantastic, you
have playmakers. He's kind of on the Jordan Love type curve.
Get it. By the middle of the season, he's going
to be really good. Harmon doesn't believe you, or he
doesn't want to believe me.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Well, I mean, if you had lived Harmon's life as
a Bears fan, you wouldn't think, you know, you would
never think you had nice things either, especially at the
quarterback position. I mean, the man point watched Jake Cuttler
and whatever collection of guys Dave wants that we have
put under center all those years. You know, like Rick
Myer was in here there for a little while or
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something like that. I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Just like, no matter what, the word bears comes up
and your brain defaults to Wanston.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Jason. Here's the thing. No, no, no, a lot of things.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Well it's true that no, no, that is absolutely one
thousand percent true that I just default to ragging on
once at any chance, I guess that is absolutely one
thousand percent true. Do you think I can sell the
old money?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Do you think I could sell shirts that say all
the pieces are in place?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Yes? Absolutely? Yes? Oh my god, what a knuckle ahead. Anyways,
moving along, what what? What else? Did you? Where else
were you going to? What were you doing?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, as we were talking about Bryce Young in the beginning,
and you know here every getting benched after two weeks,
they said today they're not going to trade him. At
some point he's getting back out there this year, right,
Like I know the Panthers are not run great, but
at some point they know they're going to put him
back out there after a research just to make sure
he's really not great.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
You know, I'm over the eighty thousand years I've watched football. Actually, yeah,
there's a lot of football. We're now on. You're thirty
three of me doing this There's always been this thing
about when guys look small in the pocket, it's a
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real danger signed to me, like they're hunched over. They
don't know, you know, they don't look comfortable. I remember
watching He's Schuler, who was like six foot four or
something like that, and he looked like he was five eleven.
When I watch Bryce Young, and I know he's not
very big, he's from five to nine, five ten, maybe
five eleven. He looks like he's five six he looks
(28:34):
or five to five. He looks like he's shrinking every
single time I see him. And not only is he short,
but he looks physically tiny. I don't know that he
knows how to attack downfield right now. I don't think
he can see downfield unless he's outside the pocket. And
when he's outside the pocket and trying to make him play,
(28:57):
the speed of the game accelerates so much. He's not
ready for it. So yeah, do I think ultimately Bryce
Young is going to get back out on the field. Yeah,
But I don't think he. I don't think he has
any sense of what you have to do. You have
to attack downfield as a passer, like they have less
than what was under two minutes to go in the
(29:19):
first half, and they just kind of get in positioned
to get trying to get a fieldal or something like that.
He threw underneath the defense on three straight plays. It
was like check down, check down, and then check down.
And it's like, dude, that doesn't get it done. That
didn't get it done when you were at Modern Day.
I didn't get it done at Alabama. Why do you
(29:41):
think that that's going to work here? And even the
fans they're flashing into the stands of the stands and
they're standing there going, dude, throw it downfield. I mean,
he just can't do it. So I'm coming quickly to
the conclusion that unless something seriously changes, he's done. And
(30:02):
like I mean by that, I mean completely done. It's
completely to I mean, I'll mop around the league for
a few years and people try and see if they
can get something out of him, but I just think
he's in over his head physically right now.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Well, it's good to see Tepper on these sidelines, a
practice that's going to help a lot of stuff. Let's
stay in division, though, What the hell's going on in
New Orleans? What's in the water.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
It's an amazing thing when you decide to like move
players before the snap and help your quarterback to figure
out what the defense is doing. It's a shocking thing
because like they went from the least amount of pre
snap movement a year ago. They bring in Clinton Koback
and they now have the most pre snap movement in
the league because they're doing what Shanahan and all the
(30:49):
Shanahan disciples are doing and saying, here, let's move guys
around so that our quarterback will get keys. Right. So
Derek Carr, who's a very good quarterback there Ago Smithsie,
he's a very good player. That was for you specifically,
he's a very good player. He actually can play better
than normal and better than last year because he's getting
(31:14):
information before the staff. It's an amazing thing that you
do for quarterbacks. And like Mike McCarthy took years and
years and years to figure this out, and he started
doing it more when he got to Dallas, but he
was really resistant to it. He's changed and could you
imagine what would have happened if they had given more
(31:34):
movement in the offense to Aaron Rodgers, who already knows
more than you know nine percent of it all the
guys have ever played the position. If he'd made it
just easier for that guy to figure out how to play. So, like,
the Saints are doing a really nice job. They've got
solid offensive line and really good weapons. I mean, those
wide receivers are terrific. A lobby just I mean, he's
(31:58):
a man like that. I just I love what they've got.
And now they're allowing the quarterback to play up instead
of play down.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So you say all that about the Saints, and I
just counted with I think the Cowboys might just stink.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
The Cowboys. The Cowboys. It just prosts more and more
of what I always say, as soon as they start
to look good, as soon as you buy intos the
BS type, and they they oh, we just we just
destroyed Cleveland on the road, and then they and they
just get punched in the mouth. They just absolutely get
(32:36):
punched in the mouth. Because like I'm sure Jerry was like,
you know, doing the itinerary for the Super Bowl before
the last game, right, trying to figure out, oh, well,
we're gonna have a parade, we're gonna leave, We're gonna
leave like ten days, and we've got to make sure
that we have the cowboyd bus on site when I
get there, because we got rolled through town with the
(32:58):
Cowboy bus.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I'm gonna do a Median Knight from the bush.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
We got big parties to get to. We got a
lot of stuff to do, and so, you know, and
then he's gonna, you know, think about how do you
how do you bring the bees to the Super Bowl?
Like where do the bees go? You know, where do
you put all the hives? You know? Do they go
on the bus? Do they go on the top of
the bus. And so do the bees like roll through
town on the cowboy bus so that they can party
(33:26):
with with Jerry and the rest of the family. Like
these are the important things that Jerry was thinking about
before game two of the seasons, right, Like that's that's
how that went. And then they get punched them out,
and I'm thinking that they probably believe that they can,
you know, roll past Baltimore. I think Baltimore is going
to kind of just hammer them because Baltimore is not
(33:49):
what they like. And I know Baltimore's offensive line is
tragically bad right now, but their defense, I think is
going to be really angry and want to punish some
people and offensively the Cowboys don't really move anybody. They're
not physical on offense.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Cole sixty two. Jay call is always bunny.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
All Cowboys, All Cowboys rank last.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He's got them all one through one sixty seven. It's
his own version of the NCAA tournament. Jay Cole, Take
it easy, buddy. We'll talk to you later, see about it.
That was some very good analysis. That was good under
one sixty seven. I now likes the Saints. Let's get
a very good update on what's going on in the
wide rble sports. Look at Bryan Finley, b Yeah, what
(34:39):
do you got.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
From one sixty seven to Mike Carmen's White Sox.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
With one seventeen?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Is that the amount of losses they have now just
saved to say that they have been eliminated. We look,
we're looking at Major League Baseball, and yeah, eliminated from
the postseason. The White Sox losing today and they did
it in thirteen innings to the Angels, and it's thirty
six to two or thirty six wins, one hundred and
seventeen losses. That is fifty two games back of first
(35:05):
place Cleveland Guardians, by the way, that would be in
the AL Central. But speaking of the NL Central, it
is all locked up for the Milwaukee Brewers, and they
did it without having to know whether or not they'd
win their game today because before they started their game
they ended up winning against the Phillies. But it was
the Cubs, they're nemesis in the division, losing to the
Oakland Asian oother team that is not going to be
(35:26):
postseason bound. But five to three wins for the A's
over the Cubs, Mariners, and Yankees. That's the only game
that's up and running right now. The Yankees are in front,
one and nothing in the seventh inning. Yanks, of course
leading the way in the AL East. They have a
four and a half game lead for first over the
Baltimore Orioles. Baltimore losing five to three at the hands
(35:48):
of the Giants, the Braves over the Red seven to one.
The Padres got some big hitting from Manny Machado.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Three and two to Machado many swings hit it to
the air to left field deep. Albarez is back, he's
looking up. It's gonna go.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Hey, anything you can do, I can do better.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
But Jatta with his second of the day.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
He and Fernando go back to back.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
That would be Padres or Radio networking. Four to nothing
is the final there, and yeah, Manny Machado had two
home runs, by the way, in the game. The Padres
first in the NL wildcard race. They have a two
and a half game lead for first in that with
a tyer second with Mike Carmon's well, not Mike Carmons,
it would be Jason Smith Mets. They're there along with
the Diamondback speaking the Mets ten and nothing over the Nationals,
(36:36):
Mets getting the win there with eleven hits. And then lastly, guys,
let's not forget about those Detroit Tigers four to two
over the Royals. That was a sweep against Kansas City
and the Tigers are just a half game out of
that third and final wildcard spot in the AL. And Jason,
I know that if your Mets, in some way, shape
or form do not make the postseason, because you know
(37:00):
they're known to fade at the end of seasons, maybe
you're going to be a Tigers fan because I know
you have family roots in the Detroit There is my
second team.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I mean about the city of Detroit. My second teams
are all Detroit teams. Yeah, that is how it goes. Yeah,
I'll be on the Tiger's bandwagon. Sure, why not? Dirt
bag megas Tigers World Series? Get ready?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Get a family? Did and then you can't go home
for Christmas? Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Well, it depends depends how the game goes, depends how
the World Series goes. Either way, you'll have been on
air for hours at a time shouting angry things at
the Detroit people. No, no, no, no, no, no, I would,
I would hide that under under other things. I have
to go there.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I have to play be that after people at the
But I'm here four hours a night to go, Juan,
to see such things.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I gotta be able to go to playing you with cheeseburgers,
I got. I gotta be able to go to Detroit.
There's nowhere else I'm gonna get frozen cussed in white
Castle people still go. I think we could probably pull
that off. But come on now, coming up next, Mike
and I give you our picks for Thursday night football.
What's a name that everybody's gonna be talking about after
Tomorrow night? We'll tell you. We'll tell you next right here,
(38:09):
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. Cleveland is not playing
Alex Tyscher. Are you sure they're not playing?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Maybe somewhere, yeah, but not tomorrow night. You know that
there's multiple dimensions out there, right there are, and Earth
ten thousand and five, where Wolverine came from, Cleveland is playing. Yeah,
they're playing Toronto. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
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Speaker 1 (38:39):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the Tireck dot Com studios. And look, we
spent some time last couple of nights talking about how
much trouble the Chiefs offense is in When you decide
we're okay with Harrison, Butker kicking a fifty one yardfield goal,
you want to run the ball twice instead of getting
close on the final drive against the Bengals. You know
(39:03):
that Andy Reid feels a certain way about his offense,
certain way about Patrick Mahomes, and most likely a certain
way about Travis Kelcey. Well today on his In the
Heights podcast that he did with that. In the Heights,
he talked about how his slow star Travis Kelsey won
catch five yards against the Bengals on Sunday is all
on him.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
There's a lot of things that have to go right
for anybody to get the ball. You know, it's just
for whatever reason these past two games, it hasn't gone
that way for me. And that's football, man. I'm not
about to sit here and get frustrated about it. I
used to get really really pissed off and I almost
lose my cool a lot of the time from not
having that success, knowing I'd demand that out of myself,
(39:43):
and it's tough.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
For me to deal with being mediocre.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
The Taylor Swift curse is real. We've done to Danny
Taylor Swift yet, jeez, Yoko, the band is breaking up now.
Oh my goodness, look at we won the Super Bowl
and we're two and oh it doesn't matter. Look at
what's going on with Travis Kelsey, and you know he
would be so pissed off. Someone said that, do you
(40:09):
think it started the trouble starting with Danny Taylor Swift?
Do you think there' trouble start?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I think there's plenty of folks that you were great,
and now boy you're you're on my fantasy team, so
I can tell you I haven't been great. I didn't
even get you a thousand yards, dude, I was sixteen short.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
What do you want from me? But I'll tell you this,
and I'll tell you exactly why he's struggling. And it's
not a lot of it is just when you're going
to be thirty five years old on the tight end,
you only have so much left. Like how much did
Gronk have left? He was a great tight end before
he wound up having to hang it up. And they're
both very similar. And without looking at all the All
(40:43):
twenty two film for the Chiefs, I could tell you
a couple of things. Number One, they're not throwing the
ball as much as they used to, so there's gonna
be less out there. Right. They're running the ball more
for whoever reason, Andy Reid has decided I want to
run the football. Okay, you know my homes is your quarterback.
But so there's whenever you run the ball more, that's
less passing plays. But Kelsey has always been able to
(41:04):
create space, right, that's him and that's Rob Gronkowski. Somehow
they're able to run free across the field over the
course of their career, and someone get and the linebacker
loses them or the safety loses them. Now, Kelsey's a
little bit more talented than Gronk in that he can
make more of the big catches in tight coverage. But
the fact that he's not getting targets. Are you talking
(41:26):
about one catch for five yards? His targets are all
the way down for seven targets. I guarantee you this.
I guarantee with that. I look and I can guarantee
you this. He doesn't have the separation that he once did.
He doesn't have set because if he had the separation,
Mahomes would throw to him. I mean, it's that simple. Again,
I haven't watched you all twenty two film, but I
know how Travis Kelsey gets open. Watching the game on Sunday,
there was no time when I said, boy, Kelsey was
(41:48):
wide open there. Boy, how do you not see kel
Of course he's looking for Kelsey first. There's nobody else
he's throwing to Kelsey if Ke's If Kelsey's not getting
the ball, it's because he doesn't have the separation anymore,
which is just what happens when you're going to be
thirty five years old and you're a tight end in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
You also can scheme it up when you're lou on
Aumo getting after it, and.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
We we extole the virtues.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Of his game planning and and what he's done for
the Cincinnati defense. So some of that is going to
be take Kelsey away, make someone else beat us.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Right, they won him, but they tried. They tried to
take him away for the last six years. Got to
take him.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Away then kind of slips a bit, and your offensive
line maybe not as cohesive the run game while you're
trying to run the football. To your point, my home
has only tried fifty three pass attempts in two weeks.
Three interceptions. It used to be one game for him, right,
a couple of he's already gotten, you know, two touchdown
(42:44):
passes of at least twenty plus yards, which I think
matches all of last year or some ridiculous stat like that.
But you're looking at the like it's feeling out process.
In September, we talked about it a little bit, you know,
the old Patriots way of right, first quarter, let's do this.
I think most of the NFL to some degree, that's it.
You want to come in with, you know, full on
(43:06):
zero to sixty in two seconds flat. It's not happening
anymore because you're not playing in the preseason, you're not
getting reps.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
And for Kelsey, you know, some of it is rounding
back into full on shape. Right. He took I mean
he took a lot of the summer off, right. But
you would also thought that last year at some point
he would have hit at the end of last year
and suddenly become you know, the beast that he had been.
But he wasn't. But towards the playoffs you got you
got a different Kelsey. But guys that when to get
to be tight ends, they age really quick. Man, when
(43:34):
you're thirty.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Fortunately, yeah, he doesn't have the laundry list of injuries
that granted, remember Gronk wasn't supposed to play at all. No,
when the Patriots drafted it was like this guy's already
had put it in new back.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
You say, you've seen his back, My good, what are
you doing? But look tight Ends, Hey, you go to
your thirty thirty one and when you're the say, he's
he's already in bonus times. But sometime. I guarantee you
he just hasn't gotten the separation because he would have
gotten the ball.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
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