The Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to a Monday night doubleheader to cap off Week 3 as Jayden Daniels has a coming out party in the Commanders' win over the Bengals. The guys explain why the Buffalo Bills are now the best team in the AFC. Jason and Mike break down how Josh Allen and Trevor Lawrence are in two completely different places among NFL QBs. Plus, Jason explains why the Panthers need to trade Bryce Young ASAP.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome in side hour two The Jason Smith Show
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(00:50):
you can scratch the Cincinnati Bengals from playoff contention. Yes,
they do play one extra game in one team in
the last twenty years to start oh and three the playoffs,
and the Bengals are starting zho and three as they
fall to the Washing Commanders. In Jade and Daniels thirty
eight to thirty three, they get a touchdown Zack Moss

(01:13):
walks in, So congratulations all you Zach Moss owners. I
got a big night to night with twenty points. Yeah.
But the on side kick, which the Bengals had to say,
we're doing an on side kick, right, that's the new one.
Do you declare? You have to pull out a megaphone
or what do you do? They bring in someone dressed
like an old timey like clothes from the war, like
in the seventeen hundreds, and he's got a parchment and

(01:35):
a bugle, and you hear A.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I really thought you were gonna drift into timmy trumpet
for a minute there.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
And then and then and then uh, then the Zach
Taylor has to unfold a parchment's full parchment and say,
I do fos declare the Cincinnati Bengals will be attempting
and onside kick. Fosse far currently and then rolls it
back up and then and the old guy comes out dancing,

(02:23):
and then you can getting outside kick and then we
all go to six flags after the game penalty on
the Bengals, uh for a legal formation because McPherson looked
like he was gonna kick to the left. Then he
stopped and he wound up kicking to the right, pooling
his own guys. Yeah, and so they were offside, but
it didn't matter. Washington Commander's recover and they win this game. Look,

(02:44):
the Bengals have something to We got a big discussion
on Jayden Daniels coming up, and.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh, I thought it was they have one big problem.
But let me say one problem they think they do.
They have one big problem because they always start out slowly, right,
Zach Taylor won and eleven in the weeks season. You're
and then it goes Remember you know after the super Bowl,
Oh the good times.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's gonna be great forever. But let let it's too
This is too much of a coincidence for it not
to be a trend. As I am never a fan
of teams having controversy going into opening day, dealing with
knucklehead stuff going into opening day, right, I'm never a

(03:24):
big fan of a because once you get ready for
opening Day, it's blinders on and it's time to go play, right,
which shocks me because the Jets could have had that
going on with a Son Reddick and he's gonna sign like, nope,
he's not here. He's not playing, and he was persona
non grata. Nobody talked about him, and the Jets were
able to over it no end of the and it
always he coming, is he playing? And then suddenly it

(03:44):
becomes a huge storyline and he's taking away snaps from
other players and he's not in shape. No, the Jets
decided he is not going to be a storyline. And
here are the Jets two and one after the first
three weeks, after playing three games in four days, and
they're two and one after the first.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
That's the beautiful thing. And he was an added give
to an already good defense.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
He wasn't the guy that was being brought in to
stir the drink. As we talk about some of these
other situations where we look squarely at Cincinnati, nothing goes
without the guys that have been embroiled in all the
off field and all the front office kind of back
and forth in battles with Reddick, And that's between his
agent and the front office that's got nothing to do

(04:23):
with the football field. Those guys were still going to
work and they were already without him, expected to be
a tip, but you're not.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
But you're not the game planning is not affected. That
is a guy shows if not move on. This is
crazy that the Jets handle it the right way, right,
the Jets of them because in a while you get one. Right,
they screwed it up by trading for the guy. But still,
but who are the teams that had drama heading into

(04:51):
week one regarding personnel and contracts? Who are the three teams?
Three teams Cincinnati Hi and Jamar Chase, Cowboys and t
Higgins Das Higgins. Right, yeah, so you had the Bengals
with those two. You had the Cowboys with Ceedee Lamb
and Dak Prescott, and you had the forty nine Ers
with Trent Williams and and Brandon Aiyuk. You had controversy

(05:15):
and dealing with that crap right up until week one, right,
Trent Williams signs right before week one, and clearly the
forty nine ers, Hey, they were on their excitement, they
were they were running, they were focused for that game.
But look at what's happened in the last couple of weeks.
The three teams that had all the drama, these guys
coming in and let it engulf them. Look where they

(05:36):
are The Bengals are row and three. The Cowboys are
one and two and they stink. And the forty nine
ers are one and two and they're injured and looking
for answers. So all three of these teams, the teams
that all had the drama leading up to Week one,
they all stink right now. And it's too much of
a too much to say, oh, it's just a coincidence.
But you had these that all are talented, right, you're not.
Can't say all these teams, well, we didn't know if

(05:56):
anybody was going to contend on The Cowboys still supposed
to be good. We told you they Weren'ting Niners were
supposed to be a super Bowl team, and maybe they are,
but they're hurt. And the Bengals were going to be
a really good team bouncing back with Joe Burrow, and
now they're zero and three in their season is over.
There is something there for teams that deal with knuckleheaded stuff,
with controversies and contracts and figure, okay, well now we
got it all signed up, Like, as long as you

(06:17):
get it done before week one, it's not going to
affect the team. This is something that's been hanging over
you all summer in your preparation and be in a
right place mentally for the season. Just because you get
it solved doesn't mean suddenly, okay, we can just turn
the page on the rest of it and put blinders on. No,
these are three teams that had situations leak over and
look where they are.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, I mean with the Bengals to get things started.
Of course, you know, Higgins is also hurt, and there
were questions being raised about how hurt was he and
how much was just dissatisfaction of having to play on
the franchise tag the chase thing, Like, he comes out
in the first possession, he's got a forty one yard
touchdown reception.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Fact that lou Anarumo and that defensive coaching staff had
no solution whatsoever for Jayden Daniels and company. I mean,
that's the bigger issue. They're getting gashed and just beaten
to hell on the defensive side of things time and
time again.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
You know, in Joe Burrow always a slow starter. I
mean this this goes in line with what he and
Taylor have done for years. So it was expected. All right,
you're not gonna come out scoring thirty five a game
and dominating, But now you fall to zero to three
and your backs are against the wall, especially in a
crowded AFC. Some of the other contenders are now going
to deal with injury issues already. I mean, look what's

(07:31):
happening to the Chargers. That list gets longer by the minute.
Ad Derwin James for a game suspension, and it's it's
not good. No matter how much relentless enthusiasm Jim Harbaugh
has today, it's not good. But to your point, all
three of those squads dealing with major issues. I mean,
with San Francisco, now you've got Brock Purdy's got to

(07:52):
go in for an MRI on his back, so all
of the.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well suppose that was okay. Supposedly as MRI came back, okay,
and he's but he's to day right now, and they're
hoping Wednesday. Like when I read today, Hey, we're hoping
he feels better on Wednesday. Oh so hope.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now, hope is a strategy now, But that's just it. It
becomes as soon as the back is part of it.
We talked about this years ago, going back to Clayton
Kershawn so many others in our sporting universe. Right, back's
a whole other mess because there's two ways back injuries
you know play out in sports, there's the I got
a back injury because well, some of it ain't gonna

(08:26):
show up in in those imaging or tests or any
of those things.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I e.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I just need some load management days off NBA time,
or you've got something structurally and physically and with the
muscle system that you're gonna have problems that then linger.
So we'll see what happens there with Purdy. But they're
dropping like flies, and so which of these teams can
crawl out of it? Then Cowboys didn't address their personnel,
So just signing Deck wasn't gonna be enough. Regardless, we're

(08:56):
good saying that all out.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
That game I got.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I paid Gud's money that I said it wasn't gonna pay.
Let's go win games.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
But that's just it.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Signing him in Ceedee LAMB didn't materially affect anything because
you didn't do anything else with the roster no, So
any drama related to them really didn't matter because it
wasn't like, Hey, if we don't sign him, guess what,
we're going into the marketplace and we're gonna get three
other guys for our defense to solve the fact that
we're a leaky run defense system.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
No, that's not happening. Look, we told you the Cowboys
we're not gonna be very good. Right. We'll get to
them in more detail coming up in a few minutes.
But we told you this is how it was gonna go,
and this is kind of how it's going. So from
these teams dealing with roster drama to the other side
of the game tonight and the birth of a superstar
in Jade and Daniels. This kid. If you had any

(09:46):
doubts that he was gonna be a big star in
the game, this pass from the fourth quarter that clinched
the game should allay all of your doubts. They got
a snap it on the third and seven, and they
do Bengals bring the house zone he did. I always

(10:13):
love the analyst who stands up and runs around dancing
and then laughs as part of the analysis. Tell us
what happened on that play.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
See that's a I was mad we didn't get his
first touchdown because it was a pass to Trent Brown.
I wanted to, but I mean, obviously far more drama
on this this particular pass.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
But the cackling madman in the booths, you can't beat that.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Look, Jade and Daniels gets absolutely crunched. I mean it
was it's like he gets hit like a like like
Thanos hits Iron Man or like that.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
That's kind of what it was like. And he still
throws a perfect pass from Chlorin to run under and
complete pass interference. I don't know how McLaurin still caught
the ball, but he did. And that's the clinching touchdown
and the day that that Jade and Daniels had for
the Commanders. All this story about oh, big quarterbacks haven't
thrown touchdown passes. Daniels is twenty one out of twenty

(11:16):
three for two fifty four and two touchdowns. Also ran
for thirty nine yards and a score. If you had
any doubt that he was going to be a star,
you see that throw and that's gonna convince even the
biggest of skeptics. Right now, this is going to start
the oh the Bears screwed up by taking Caleb Williams
over Jaydon Daniels. But this kid is a star. Go

(11:36):
play behind that offense, this kid. Yeah, I mean, really,
Jade Daniels, you need is that screenshot of that fourth down?
No not, I'm not sorry, I'm not saying I agree
with it, but I'm saying that's gonna be the conversation.
Of course, with the conversation, we need to have some
hot take arguments. But dude, look that Jayden Daniels is terrific,
and you see everything he's allowed to do is being

(11:58):
put on displaying. Yes, he's being checked it a little
bit more, but this was a case. And look when
you when you want to compare him to to Caleb Williams,
Williams comes in with expectations and a loaded offense and okay,
get ready and go do it. We brought into running
back for he turns out the running game stinks, but
not his fault. Running game stinks, offensive line stinks, but

(12:18):
you have weapons at wide receiver too. We thought it
was everything was complete for us. You have a great defense,
but still the Bears struggle. Even though Williams did throw
for three to seventy yesterday was still a pretty good game.
But yeah, he's figuring it out. Do you want me
to do a three hour monologue on this. You could
take the rest of the night off. I'll talk about
that game forever. But for Jayden Daniels, it's something to
be said for Hey, he's allowed to come in and

(12:40):
do his thing without a lot of pressure. There's no
expectations on the commanders this year. They're completely starting over.
There's something he said for letting a guy come in
and play that way rather than be thrust right in
and expect to produce right away. Now that's the pedigree
of Caleb Williams, and he's he'd been the number one
overall picking the draft for two years, Heisman Trophy, number
one pick for USC. Jaden Daniels was someone who jumped

(13:03):
on the scene last year, won the Heisman Trophy, put
up incredible numbers as a two way quarterback. But now
with Washington, completely different situation. And I don't know if
you put Daniels in the situation with the Bears, would
he be doing the same thing. Probably not, because there's
no offensive line and you'd have the expectations of being
in Chicago. But he's allowed to fly under the radar
and become his own quarterback in his own time, and

(13:25):
in just three weeks you can see everything revolves around him.
He's comfortable in the pocket, he's comfortable taking off. He
doesn't take off too early if a play is not
open downfield. That's when he gives it. He actually gives
an extra second or two when I think he's gonna
take off. Oh, he's really making sure there's nothing downfield.
And then he's able to use athletic ability and run

(13:45):
around guys. And he's got that ability where it doesn't
look like he's running fast and he's still running around
guys who were huffing and puffing trying to chase him.
It's like watching Deon Sanders when Deon Sanders would run
away from we have an interception. He's running for a
touchdown and everybody looks like they're in motion. He's just
running back so much faster, Like that's kind of watching
Jade and Daniels run. There's some plays where I go, oh,

(14:07):
he's gonna get caught right there. No, he is just
cruising to the first down and guys are barely getting
a hand on and pushing him out of bound. Like
if there's any doubt that he's going to be a superstar,
that is a race after this game and more specifically
that play tonight.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, the potential certainly has shown itself these three games.
First couple of touchdown passes, that one he threw to McLaurin.
I mean, you heard the highlight. I mean, that's that's
there forever, the cackling mad Men will put that over
the top of the video and that becomes the official
call for the length of his career. But yeah, I mean,
the concern are still going to be there in terms of,

(14:42):
you know, how well he adapts as he takes hits
over time, because he got cleaned out pretty pretty well
on that throw and stood in and took the heat.
But that's one of the concerns coming out of college
and certainly will be going forward. And I know, being
in a commander's unifor people immediately start harkening back to

(15:02):
the days of RG three and maybe rightly, probably wrongly,
but we do it anyway because you've got to have
the easy comparison. For Washington, they were on everybody's radar
because the skill position players they assembled, we all thought
they were pretty good, right fact that zach Ertz, you know,
he's got another mouth to feed coming congratulations to them.

(15:23):
But that's why he's still playing in the tight end position,
being as important as it is in the game that
he becomes a little security blanket. Okay, McLaurin. We've loved
McLaurin for a couple of years. It was get him
a quarterback that can feed him the ball. Well, this
was the breakout game there with these is four receptions
for one hundred yard. They drafted Luke McCaffrey and brought

(15:44):
him in. He showed some burst and separation go on down.
Noah Brown's been solid and then Eckler and Robinson out
of the backfield. Now Eckler had the big kickoff return,
then had one more carry. He ended up leaving with concussion,
So we'll see how fast it comes back. But Cliff
Kingsbury as the offensive coordinator pulling the strings well, and

(16:05):
through the first three games he's looked very comfortable. The
Chicago thing's a whole other mess, right because they've been
waiting to annoying to quarterback forever. I watched it had
no expectations. Everybody's like, what's going on in Philadelphia, what's
going on in Dallas? And then the Giants are gonna
be bad, So they just got to slide over there.
Maybe we talked about him a little bit of well,
if things break right, maybe they can be a five

(16:25):
hundred team and break through a little bit right, and
maybe they can right and there's a huge win on
Monday Night football. But then you have for the bear
side of things, for Caleb Williams. He walks in, everybody
wants to crown him. Here's all the history of bad
Chicago quarterbacks. Here's everything. Oh, they won seven games. Look
how good the defense was last year. Look at what
they did with the offensive weaponry. So naturally he's just

(16:47):
gonna come in and everything's gonna work.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Well, they forgot.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
They hired Shane Waldron, and they retain Matt Eberflus oops
ooops and that offensive line.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
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Speaker 1 (17:21):
Fox Sports Radio. This song goes out to the Cincinnati Bengals.
My season died on the field tonight. Must have been
a play we didn't make. Wow owen three tonight. Yeah
that happened Bengals lose to the Commanders thirty eight to

(17:44):
thirty three. The Bengals fall to Ohen three. Meanwhile, the
Buffalo Bill gj the Buffalo Bill. I always like to
do that.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
B cheage the Buffalo Bills, right, I love the Bills,
the Buffalo heaven right.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Every year his pick was always Bill's fort I was
a super Bowl every year. Still was this year Bills
Bills forty nine ers. Eventually I'm gonna get vengeance gonna happen.
I'm gonna get Bills forty nine ers. Uh. The Buffalo
Bills absolutely steamroll the Jacksonville Jaguars eighty seven to ten
to improve to three and oh on the season, giving

(18:20):
you three three and oh teams. Now in the AFC,
we are through three weeks. Yep, three and oh teams
are the Buffalo Bills, Pittsburgh Steelers, New York, Kansas City Chiefs,
Area three three and oh teams through three weeks. I
can say this without a doubt. And it was a

(18:41):
year where we didn't know how they were going to be.
Was this gonna be a reset year? Was this gonna
be a year where they have to maybe take their
lumps and fix things up? A little bit and there
maybe their first Super Bowl window was closed. But no,
I'll tell you right now, the Bills are the best
team in the AFC. And it's not close between those
two other team not even close.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
No, no, no, right now in terms of the excellence
of execution on both sides of the ball. And they'll
have some questions to answer defensively due to some of
the losses to injury, but so long as von Miller
and company are lurking around to quarterback, yeah, they'll be
just fine.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
The Bills are. And when you compare the three, three
and oh teams, yeah, okay, because let's break these teams
down here you have the Bills, Steelers, and the Chiefs. Offensively,
for the Buffalo Bills, they're dynamic. They're the most dynamic
of all of these teams. Sorry, but that's true. Patrick Mahomes,
game manager, The.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Bill wasn't quite expecting you to spike the ball right there,
but yes, I mean there is something to that get the.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Ball to Butker, the Bills are the most dynamic team offensively. Defensively,
they're still really good. Are they quite what the Steelers aren't? No,
but they're close enough to where the Steelers still offensively,
just it's it's getting them to score. It's like trying
to get blood from a diamond, you know, it's really difficult.

(20:02):
As good as Justin Fields was yesterday in his best game,
a couple of nice plays, it's still too tough for
the Steelers to ask them to do stuff offensively. Right.
We thought they had all these weapons, and it turns
out maybe George Pickens is just a guy. Maybe Jalen
Warren is still getting into shape, and Najie Harris he's
hurt again. Yeah, yeah, And now Naji Harris is not
nearly dynamic, and Friarmouth has disappeared. So maybe now it's

(20:24):
only it's Justin Fields or bussed. But offensively, the Steelers
still struggle too much. And I couldn't see them in
a game with the Bills right now being able to
score enough points to win. And for the Chiefs, let
me just ask you this. Do the Chiefs look like
they're winning like the Patriots used to? Do they look
like they're hey the veterans smarts and how they're managing

(20:48):
the end of games, or do they look like a
team that's surviving, Because they look to me like a
team that's surviving, whether it's a not getting the where
the falcon's not getting the questionable pass interference call. At
the end, they're making just enough plays to win, which
is great, right, it's great when you make the winning plays,
that's awesome. But this is not a team that, hey,
we're making the plays to win on the down weeks

(21:10):
when we don't dominate. I have not seen the Chiefs
dominate a game. No, they have been They have been escaping.
They have been winning by being the wiley Vet's going. Ah,
just when you think of a game, we're gonnase, we're
gonna pull this one out. Well, the problem with that is,
as a season goes on, you wind up playing the
teams that actually are really good, and you wind up
having a season that falls short of your expectations. You

(21:31):
can only win like this an escape for so long? Now?
Could I see the Chiefs being a team that wins
their division? Absolutely? Because look, the ANFC West stinks right
as we've seen it. It's stinks, especially now if Justin
Herbert is hurt that everything the Chargers do is gonna
be predicated on him because they're gonna score two and
a half points a week without him, so I could
see them winning their division. But I could see this
being year. Hey, the Chiefs win and they get smacked

(21:54):
out of the playoffs in the first round by a
team that's better offensively than they are, better defensively than
they are, and they secute more. The Bills have way
less questions and look much more impressive than either the
Steelers or the Chiefs do as a whole. They're each
doing real good things right right. The Steelers playing great defensively,
opportunistic offensively. The Chiefs are making the plays they need,

(22:14):
making just enough plays offensively, holding teams back just enough defensively.
But neither of them are doing what the Bills have
been doing. And the Bills have just been getting better
from Week one all the way out here. Now we thought, though, oh, Arizona, boy,
you should win that tea. No, it turns out Arizona's
not so bad, right Ariazon. It may not be great,
but they're not so bad. And each week it's been
a better and bigger win for the Bills. And I

(22:35):
look at the AFC right now, and I go, man,
I thought the Jets were gonna get to the top
of this division. We were gonna run away with it
and all these all these thoughts I had going on
in my head as I lay in bed at night,
thinking Jets, Jets, Jets. But instead I'm like, okay, we're
looking up against the Bills again. No, it's still gonna
be a battle as we rolled through and as we
know in the National Football League, it's like we talked

(22:56):
about with the NBA, I just need to see what
these teams look like and how they're constituted when we
open the playoffs. Right until then, it's a it's great
when we ride the lightning week in week out as
we do all to seventy two, some of them greater
than others.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
I mean, someone's got to rank last. But the you
can only beat who's on the schedule, because that's the
other game where everybody's starting to play.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's like, well, where's the quality win.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
It's like if it's not on the schedule yet, it's
not on the schedule yet, right Like the Steelers, you're three,
and oh okay, you beat Atlanta. Everybody loved Atlanta, didn't
they Everybody see, oh yeah, I love Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
You came in waving Atlanta Falcons flags. Way down, I'm like,
what are you doing I did the Dirty Bird a
couple of times. You came with the Arthur Blank cup
from Hey, he's going to the Ring of Honor. I'm
gonna chug this soda out of that Arthur Blake Ring
of Honor. God, was I bitter on one before the
show started. I'll have to did you win one?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Really?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I haven't won it yet. It was still it was
still how much you have to been on that? I
was only like twelve bucks. Oh really? Oh that's worth it?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's worth shipping pay up to toe
for Arthur Blank. Yeah coming out of that, no question,
still absurd that you're putting the owner.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Hey, I'd like to be in there now, he's the
owner who makes those decisions. I'm gonna put myself on another.
There's just another fact that there was a celebrating our
Blank I'm gonna be on it.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
What I'm gonna give everybody hot dogs and a soda
and some chips.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Okay, okay, we'll put you into the Ring of Honor. Yeah. Well,
I think what's on that quession? I think it was
him saying there's a committee gonna you're gonna order committee
to plan parties. You think they're gonna say no, hey, hey, sorry, Artie. Uh,
but yeah, we decided you're not that party.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
What would you like on the cup? Yeah, we're not
you're not a suit. You're not getting in already. Yeah
it was close vote though, I mean it was like
five to four. But many know we like the hot
dog idea. But already we just can't put you in
the Ring of honor for you realize how much you
was gonna cost us for the extra man powers. Sorry
about these hot dogs.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
It's like when when Roger Dorn what is he when
he takes over his GM and the Indians in Major League?
And I've activated myself in the trench coat and all
that ex all right. See in Atlanta Week two against Denver.
Nice effort by Denver this week.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
They got after Baker Mayfield early and often, and everything
rolls through. And then you play the Chargers, who every
time I looked up, there was another guy on the
ground writhing in pain. So again, you can beat who's
on the schedule. Will they get their comeupance at some point?
Maybe maybe not right deep, that's gonna be good. Will
they keep scoring seventeen points a game and winning? No, No,

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they will not for the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
They've had some injuries in.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
The back seven, couple of linebackers already, so a little
concern there. But you've got such balance in the offense,
and as we talked about last hour, when it comes
down to it, you're not reliant on one number one.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Receiver to be the guy to make a play.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
You've got two tight ends, you've got three receivers that
are rising up. And you've got not only James Cook,
but Ray Davis in the backfield who you brought in.
He got a little bit of shine late in the
game as well. So opportunity knocks. Your Jets are probably
if you're going to extend it now, they're not three
and oh sorry, but teams extend it. Sure the Jets

(26:17):
come creeping.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Back in better than the number one team in the
one right now.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Don't be an ass uh, but but for the Chiefs,
it's a are you can you keep the principles healthy
right now? It's surviving. Can you keep this cobbled together
and maybe free up Travis Kelcey. I know everybody had
the memes of how defeated he looked on the sidelines
and whatever else. They're running a second guy at him
and he's not the same guy that. No, he can
do that, and you can't do the same thing that

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you did four years ago.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
No, and I then, and I get they want to
make excuses for him because, look, his popularity has mushroom
the last year, the dating Taylor Swift and being the
best tight end in the NFL for a long time.
But it's not like teams didn't throw two guys out.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
And that's the point is that doesn't do the sad thing.
He can't separate.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Say we told you last week without watching the All
twenty two film, I guarantee you, he's not getting the
separation of used to or Mahomes would be throwing to him.
And Mahomes even alluded to that fact that, hey, there's
much more coverages rolled towards them. I'm like, okay, Like
they weren't rolled towards him for the past seven eight years.
He's still found a way to get open. No, he's
near the end because he's a thirty five year old
tight end and he's near the end. Whether he's lost

(27:25):
his explosiveness, he can't get separation. So they're not throwing that.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
But it goes back to the larger discussion that you
and I have had. I think leading the way as
we do, everybody can jump on the bad wagon as
they want. Is the shift in offensive philosophy. Not only
from the hey completion percentage and be efficient that way,
it's also it's never been more incumbent on a quarterback
not to put the ball in harm's way, particularly if

(27:51):
you get just a middling offensive possession. You've got guys
that can kick the ball fifty five yards with regularity
on most teams this point, and you have a guy
in Harrison Butker, if you give him an opportunity, it's
three points at the end of possession. So you're not
going to try to fit it on a third down
play to Travis Kelsey, where yeah, he used to have separation,

(28:13):
but now, well, you've got to be absolutely perfect with
that throw otherwise it's going to be a pick. And
we've already seen him and he's made a couple of
terrible throws trying to force the issue that he's got
to back off that right, We've seen that one or
two too many times already through three weeks. But survive
and advance, succeed, proceed, all those things. I don't think

(28:33):
there's a savior walking through that door. Right, Isaiah Pacheco
was your top running back. He broke his leg, he's gone.
So the fact that the offense is going to be
hampered from that side of things, they're not telling me that.
You know, hey, Kareem hunts back. Great, that Clyde Edwards
Hilaire is gonna get cleared. Okay, fine, None of those

(28:54):
guys had the same They already already had their shots,
and they had nowhere near the impact act to balance
that offense that Pacheco did. So yeah, it's a work
in progress. Bills by far out of those three. And
then I'll even put your Jets forth because I'm nice.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
No, look at that. No, look hey, it's it's not
about the Jets. Even though you want to make it
about the Jets, I don't want to. They're free enough.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
They thought I'd bring it back in and just say, hey,
right now, they're a team of balance, which we don't
have a lot of.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
No, I mean, and that's why the Bills they get
score points. Because the Bills are balanced. The Bills can score,
They can score points in bunches, they can run the
football and win. They play good enough defense, not the
lights out defense like teams like the Steelers the Vikings have.
But clearly they are. They are good enough. They are
the best balanced team. They're the best team in the AFC.
Now look up at them even again, Josh Allen, you

(29:46):
like it's the nineties again. Suddenly I go through the buffalo. Oh,
we gotta go through both.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I tried to tell you you're gonna go through a table.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
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the first game since nineteen forty to not have a
punt or a turnover? That should I call him bleepin
show Commander's beat the Bengals thirty eight to thirty three.
We'll have more on that game coming up. In a
bit nineteen that had the over in nineteen forty. Let
me guess that was probably Bears, Redskins or Bears, Giants

(30:46):
or Bears, Packers or Giants pass it involved I guarantee
you that game involved two of those four teams Packers, Redskins, Bears,
or Giants.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
That was the game. They think those only four teams
in the good it's a good rush. We have to
go and get the crack research.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
You know we need. Like I would ask Steve de
Sager and he would just call the great researcher, Sarah Lanx,
who apparently he's I don't know that, but I don't
know what is over into NFL. Oh why not?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Like I think she does baseball and then like and
guard you know that's can't go outside those rails.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Being a great research you got you do more than
just that. I mean, come on, milk Kiper just doesn't
do NFL draft stuff. He does NBA draft stuff. You
see that he does that?

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Does he do that any better than he does?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
But the other game tonight that you probably watch for
the first half and then it's okay, now I'm just
gonna watch the Commanders in the Bengals. Uh, the Buffalo
Bills blow out the Jaguars forty seven to ten. Look,
they scored the first five times had the ball in
the first half, and Josh Allen puts on a clinic.
He throws for two sixty three and four touchdowns, nearly

(31:55):
a perfect quarterback rating, also runs for forty four yards.
And the Bill, we talked about it last hour. They
are the best team in the AFC. And you saw
on the field tonight two quarterbacks who are being paid
to be franchise quarterbacks and Josh Allen. There is no
mistaking that, whatever your thoughts are on the Bills or

(32:18):
where they are, Josh Allen is worth every single penny
of that contract. Right now, they're getting him back to
being the guy he was earlier on in his career.
The little more design runs, you know, they wanted to
get rid of those a little bit. Oh, we don't
want to put him in harm's way, But now that's
what he does. It's what he does. You got to
get him outside the pocket running the football a couple
of times, and they figured out a way to survive
without Stefan Diggs and Josh Allen tried to tell us

(32:42):
all pre season long, we're fine. We love the guys
as lot, I love all my receivers, like yeah, yeah,
your receivers all stink, none of them are any good.
And then suddenly it's oh, well, okay, Well he just
has to throw to Shakir for one touchdown, and Coleman
for another touchdown, and Kincaid for another touchdown and James
hook for a fourth touchdown. All right, maybe, Josh Allen,

(33:03):
we have to believe the guy because clearly, maybe he's
trying to get the ball that Stefon Diggs was the problem.
Maybe trying to overserve him and not worry about him
being mad in the sideline yelling and screaming that haven't
gotten the football. Maybe that's something that is an addition
by subtraction for the Bills, because it's not like they
brought in a bunch of guys that were great. They
were hoping without him, Maybe the ball goes to a

(33:24):
couple of guys a little bit more looking. Kaid is
an up and coming emerging tight end. Maybe Shakira is
an emerging force a wide receiver. Coleman's a first round pick,
Curtis Samuel's a guy that can be dangerous in certain
gadget type situations. So It's not like the Bills don't
have the depth, but clearly, hey, Josh Allen has shown
we can take advantage of this of the superstar quarterbacks

(33:44):
getting paid like superstar quarterbacks. He's a guy in the
field that was deserving and believing it. All you have
to do is look at the way both guys are playing.
Josh Allen's the guy.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah, we'll get to his counterpart in a moment, but
remember even once we got in season, right postgame, he's
on the sideline yucking it up and made sure to
point out how everybody just is looking to win right,
win their route, win the possession, score and push forward right,
everybody's pulling in the same direction. He did it in

(34:15):
the on the field, and then when he met the
scrum after showering and everything else, he made sure to
reiterate that point, and that was a tone cetter for
the season. And look, there are plenty of folks that
still are not believers in Josh Allen. There's only one
team that wins the Super Bowl each year. Doesn't mean
the other guys aren't great too, or you know, when

(34:38):
we do the metal stands of great quarterbacks. Yes, Mahomes
is here. But other guys are in that conversation. We'll
talk about one of the others off considered there, who's
in a world of hurt right now coming off of
his Monday NYE game. But when we look at what
Josh Allen and what Joe Brady they designed and worked
together spread the ball around, you got two tight ends,

(34:59):
You've got cook out of the backfield, so you've got
balance in the run game. Didn't even need to go
to the run game heavily tonight. I would have expected
more of it out of the gate and then pushing it.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
No great game plan. Great game plan.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Came out and attacked and defense got after it. They
hounded Trevor Lawrence on the evening. But when you're having
that level of operational efficiency offensively and you can just
pull the strings of right now, it's Keon Coleman's turn
to shine. Hey, let's go back to Shakir because you've
already established last year that back and forth as his

(35:35):
number two option, just Stefon Diggs. So all of that
to say, they're just getting started offensively, and that's and
that's got to be pretty damn scary for the rest
of the AFC.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
So there's your guy paid like a franchise quarterback who
absolutely is on the other side of the field. Was
Trevor Lawrence. And we've told you for a long time,
Trevor Lawrence is just a guy. Three years into the NFL.
You can continue to make excuses formal. His first year
was urban meyer. His second year was better, and he's
jumping off point. But last year he was dinged up

(36:09):
offensive line problems at the beginning of the year, this
year all the You can't keep making excuses for a
guy forever. And Trevor Lawrence is someone who should not
have gotten paid the money that he did. He's not
a guy that should be setting any sort of bar
for quarterbacks to get paid because he is a league
average quarterback. That's Trevor Lawrence. That's who he's been for

(36:32):
his career. He got paid in the spring because he
was a studd at Clemson and he was a generational pick,
and the Jaguars got scared of what do we do
if we don't have him? We really want to start
over again at quarterback, where we've been starting over at
quarterbacks since we had Mark Brunell. So they got scared, right.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
It's the philosophy that two people have who are dating.
Where is this really going somewhere? No, it's not. We
know it's not the best relationship, but being together sounds
a little bit less scary than breaking up and doing
our own thing, right, Like, like Pam and I always
joke around, like, but what would you do with that?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Would you do without me? Like like and Pamela say, no,
well we both eat a lot of cheese. Pam always says,
you wouldn't be able to pay a bill.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I said, oh no, no, I have no idea I
have I have no idea, like she pays a bill online.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I couldn't. I couldn't hook up a computer. I couldn't
hook up a TV all the new TV. I couldn't
hook up a TV. I couldn't do anything. I'm like
I would I could do none of those things. So
my apartment would just be a room with books and
an iPad. Hey, what's the Wi Fi? All right, I'm
going to be on my iPad. So but but for
you know, for relationships where it's like hey, all right,
being being a part sounds scarier.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
And I'm not saying that's a relationship. I'm just saying
making a fun story. There is like, you know, people
don't want to break up because ah, maybe the being
a part is not going to be great. Well, being
together doesn't work. And the whole thing was the Jaguars
were scared of boy. This is really embarrassing for us
if we have this generational who was a super studded

(38:02):
Clemson and we don't give him money and we don't
keep him because this is a contract that the NFL
and other team's got to be really mad about. Can't
be mad at Jordan Love guy and a great year starter,
perfect quarterback, grating against the Cowboys in the playoffs. Okay,
those guys get pay. People understand that to a time
of I loa. Yes he got hurt, but he's deserving
of that money. Trevor Lawrence is not league average guy.

(38:24):
And you saw tonight, Well you can't put the whole
game on him, but a couple of turnovers, horrible throw,
DeMar Hamlin getting his first ever NFL interception and you know,
kind of poetic that it happens on Monday night. You know,
guy hit not protecting the football turnover when when he's
throwing the football fumbles in the pocket. This is what
happens to Trevor Lawrence. He's not terrible. Okay, he's not

(38:44):
a terrible I'm not saying he's bad, but this is
kind of who he is after three and a quarter years.
This is kind of who you are in the NFL.
They're only gonna they're only gonna make so much of you,
and you watch him. He's not a guy that elevates
his team. His reputation has been living off of the
comeback against the Chargers in the playoffs two years ago. Joe,
by the way, he put him in that hole with

(39:04):
four first half interceptions of that game. He's just okay,
he is a league average quarterback, and he's a jag.
He's just a guy. And he got paid way too soon.
They didn't have to pay him. And you're seeing now
we told you this months ago, and now the last
twenty four hours you see tonight. Oh hey wait, maybe
Trevor Lawrence isn't good. Remember we told you this month ago.

(39:25):
That's why the show should be called ahead of the curve.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Now where it gets difficult when you go into the
Trevor Lawrence side. Look, there's plenty of contracts that you'd
scratch your head about right. The only contract that's made
any sense in any professional sports is a guy deferring
all his salary and trying to get it and make
his team good. He was worth every bit of the
two million dollars that show, Hey, Tony, everything else we

(39:49):
could argue, and he was only worth ten million, but
he got twelve. We can play this game all day,
and at the quarterback position, there's always just that all right,
next man up mentality?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Should it break? Should there be a halt in?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
That?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Was this gonna be the year with Dak Dak Prescott?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, but you knew what eleventh hour Jerry was gonna
come back in your Venom.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Jerry was not gonna work as Jerry. Don't pay these
guys now, No gonna do it. Venom. Gotta get out,
gotta get out of my head. Guy.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I saw how you did. I saw that Eddie Brock
got do it. Maybe I should pay Eddy Brox some money,
come in. He could report on the team and maybe
he could play, especially if Venom, if you're in him,
maybe give him the football and then I wouldn't have
to worry about answering questions like why did you have
money for Derek Henry Well you wouldn't have to pan
him twice either, But the idea being that next man
up has always been the way for quarterbacks, and it's

(40:38):
not always pretty. Would you believe Trevor Lawrence is actually
a year younger than Jordan Love and younger than most
of the guys that just got drafted. So we have
that circumstance that also for the Trevor Lawrence uh crowd
that backs him saying that there's still better to his head.

(41:00):
And there may be, but certainly it's a tough look
right now. Where Doug Peterson was supposed to fix him,
right you mentioned the urban urban Meyer run there and
the subsequent year, and then obviously last year, second half
of the year he's banged up. All of that goes
to the wayside because he played right. I can only

(41:23):
judge what's on the field right, and you can't give
me the wacky doctors game operation after the season ends
goes well, all these body parts are looked, they're glowing, so.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Can't you can't excuse it away. He played, He played injured.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
So now we go to the circumstance for him of
trying to figure out, you know, precisely, how do you
fix it. Can you fix it? Can Doug Peters? Is
Doug Peterson the guy to do it at this point?
And the answer looks like a resounding no because they've
cycled through the skill position guys. And but for an
etn bumble, maybe that's the thing that dooms it all right.

(42:00):
All it took was one fumble that became an eighty
yard Tyreek Hill touchdown throw from dew And Tungue Ilo
at one play later to doom whatever renaissance Trevor Lawrence
and company may have had.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Look out quickly it goes to hell. And look, the
thing is is that I know that the general consensu
is gonna be oh Mac Jones. That yeah, I thought
for sure Mac Jones would get a chance until they
paid Trevor Lawrence. Like I thought, okay, mac Jones, he
signs here. This is one of those things that the
Jaguars are doing smartly to say, hey, Trevor, little bit

(42:35):
of a push, like got you a push going into
year four and you need something here. But instead they decided, no,
we're gonna pay you.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Well, you know, he got to get into the game,
and yeah, he got stripped to there was a stripped
I mean just wait.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Like you know, look, Peterson will get fired, Belichick will
come in, he'll bench be bench. Trevor Lawrence from mac
Jones will be awesome. But no, but look I thought
for Sharon the offseason, all right, I like the Jaguars.
I say they're bringing in mac Jones and that's kind
of the general nudge is gonna get But no, no, no,
Then they give Trevor Lawrence fifty five million dollars a
year and it's okay, guess who's the guy. So now

(43:06):
you're stuck. And that's a big thing, is that, Yes,
it's miserable in the NFL without a quarterback, right that
is one of the few tenants that goes from nineteen
eighty all the way till now. Life is miserable without
a quarterback. But it's all so miserable when you lock
into a guy who is not going to lift you up.

(43:26):
And suddenly, as much as a salary cap keeps going up,
you're still stuck with guys for a couple of years
because dead cap money is in seventy eighty ninety million dollars.
So the Jaguars right now they're stuck with Trevor Lawrence
in this contract.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
The thing that is most concerning, right is if he
was at least putting up some numbers and then makes
the odd odd throw, whatever tipped interception or just a
bad throw, trying to fit it into a spot. But
he's not even hitting open receivers. Maybe there's some separation
thing we can go through and go advance metrics and.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
All of that.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
But you've got eight losses in a row, and during
that stretch he's been under sixty percent completion virtually every game.
That's unconscionable. In twenty twenty four, NFL and College foot
go back to college football and how many guys are
completing eighty percent of their passes in college. In the pros,
we set the benchmark at sixty three, sixty four percent,

(44:23):
that's just to be okay, and then we roll from there.
He was at fifty one percent coming into this game.
Now they'd lost those two games by a combined eight points.
They're like, okay, are they this bad? And then they
go out and get absolutely shalacked on Monday Night football.
And the Bills are the best team in the AFC,

(44:45):
so you say, all right, on the schedule.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Then they got beaten by the best like, well, how
do they respond to this? Like, am I what am I.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Gonna expect going forward? Absolutely nothing. I'm expecting them to
maybe be drafting his replacement or being competition to do so,
or maybe you can trade and add four new offensive
linemen and maybe that'll solve it all. But the point
being is right now you got a guy with and
there's no direction for Jacksonville. All the wishing and hoping

(45:15):
and goodwill coming out of that comeback win against the
Chargers that led to changes there and everything else and
series of unrest that there for Doug Peterson, he's got
to try to figure out the answers with that roster.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
They're not there telling me Man Trevor's just a jag. Sorry,
but he is. And now everybody's gonna start saying this
information is free, reb we told you this month ago.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I mean, he's been a jag for a couple of
years now, he's he's a double jag, like a double
secret agent.

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Speaker 2 (46:21):
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Speaker 3 (46:35):
Is that the scene in San Francisco right now, Buddy
or Metsville?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
The San Francisco Giants close out the Diamondbacks six to three,
So now the wild card standings in the National League
look like this, in first place San Diego Padres, who

(47:01):
should be clinching any day now, second place the New
York Mets, followed by the Airs on the Diamondbacks, and
then the Atlanta Braves two games behind as the series
to end all series begins tomorrow with the Mets and
the Braves.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
How great is that going to be to be on
air as that comes to an end.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Depends how the game goes.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Well, it'll be a glorious game regardless because we'll be
here in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Depends how the game goes. And obviously you got Dodgers
padres Yeah, no, no, no, great series, guy, that they
haven't I think I don't think they've played a series
since like twenty twenty one. And the White Sox will
go for lost. Yeah, let's go. They tied the Mets. Yeah,
And I'm one of those guys who just keeps hitting
refresh on the standings. So because I want to see

(47:51):
I want to see the Mets higher than the Diamonds,
I gotta SeeMe on refreshed.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
It's not real you put it on your stupid standings page.
Because then there's this tiny part of me going no, no, no,
no no. You can't pretend like this didn't happen now
just because you don't put it in the standings.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
My hope is all night you hit a bad server
that doesn't update. It's like and everybody's like no, it's
updated on mine. I don't know what's wrong with yours.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Big night in the NFL, we had two Monday night games,
and look, let's face it, we're not too far away
from four Monday night games soon enough. But i'll touch spanch.
Think about how about this, Right's NFL? What if they
did this Sunday? You got two early games okay, and
two late games. Right, so you're one o'clock, four o'clock o'clock,

(48:39):
but we get two games in the early window, two
games in the late one. You gotta have options.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Four games on Sunday night, okay, four games on Monday night,
four games on Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I mean you do get the quad box if you
buy the package that gets you to that gets you
to sixteen. Now obviously, hey, look at you as if
when you need a couple of less when you get
to bye weeks. Obviously, but we could pull that, lookings. Yeah,
two games on two games on this guy's got a
bye week. I thought I had a bye week.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Nope, we're contractually obligated to sit in a chair and
let people stare at three.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
That's where the NFL's ending right now. Yeah, that's good.
Two games early Sunday, two games late, four games at night,
four games Monday night, four games third. I like the
cut of your gym.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
I mean it's innovative in the idea that by Sunday night,
I mean you got family dinner or at the very least,
you're done with all the kid activities, right, the infernal bounce.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
House kid parties.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
You know, you've had them out there and you're all
nodding along, going, yeah, I can use less than those,
but those will be over and won't interrupt your football watching.
Maybe someone with a fall wedding.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Listening.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, you know, just fall gatherings in general, where you're like,
there's football to be watched now here on. That'll be
done and you'll be able to go into the night.
I mean you'll miss those four games, but you won't
miss critical mass.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah. No, no, it's okay. And because you know, well,
I'm not missing twelve games, I'm missing four four.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
I mean you spread it out that way. I mean
we'll go to the four day work week Monday through
Wednesday and Friday, because you got to be home, you know,
to get yourself prepared to watch the quad Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, of course, the quad. It's its own point.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
So we get to be on one of those broadcasts.
It's not for us to take I'll just take our
show live. They would just have put it right on them.
But I've been pitching that for years, far more engaging
than what you get. Big reactions to Monday night football
coming up in a few minutes. But how about the
most stunning reaction of the last twenty four hours in

(50:53):
the NFL, and in fact, a story that I've come
around on just because what I saw yesterday was just
so shocking. Andy Dalton, who is inevitable Andy Dalton, shows
up off the bench for Carolina, hardly any reps and says, oh, yeah,
I'm gonna throw the ball to my guys, and Deontay
Johnson is going to have a.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Big day, and hey, Xavior, I don't be wondering where
you are. First round. Pick you a couple of times
and can feel it, and all of a sudden, Andy
Dalton comes in. It was the Raiders, and and you know,
there is a little bit to be said to Tampa
down a little bit. Well, he is a man with

(51:34):
thirty eight thousand passing yards for his career. He's no slouch.
But this was I don't sell I'm short. He's tremendous slouch.
But this was a game in which the worst team
in the NFL and it wasn't close, blows out the
Raiders and Dalton three nineteen and three touchdowns. Right, you,
Hubbard runs for one hundred yards. Deontay Johnson had one
hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
This was the exact and total opposite of what you
had got in the first two weeks, where it was
getting blood from a stone with Bryce Young at quarterback. Okay,
now you couldn't hit a basic no I mean or anyhow.
This shows you that maybe the Panthers are a little
bit better than you think, because here's Andy Dalton again,

(52:15):
who is inevitable. Here's Andy Dalton again, who is suddenly
just off the metch going yeah, I'm good, We're good.
We're good. Former QB one, We're good. This division is
not that great. I can roll right through it. I'm
feeling great with no reps anything else. I know what
to do with the football. With all the talk about
Bryce Young and teams calling the Panthers for Bryce Young, Okay, now,

(52:38):
what did I say last week?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Listen, you know you need him to play at some
point he's gonna have to get back in there. You
have to give him time to calm down and start
seeing the game a little bit differently. You got to
make sure that he's not your guy. You got to
make absolute sure because you went and gave him a
lot to go get him, and he's a number one
overall pick and you got to make sure this year
if you're gonna move on now, No you don't, because

(53:03):
clearly he's got issues that you're not going to fix.
And if it's true that teams are calling the Panthers
for Bryce Young, trade him right now? Yeah, but I
have to wonder how much right now is real or
a right That's what I'm saying. Hey, tell tell folks
we're not interested in trading him.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
No, no, no, get the word out.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Tell tell people that we've got a bidding war that's commenced.
But I thought you said you weren't interested. It's just
tell people that they're calling. Phone lines are open. Make
sure make sure nobody's on the business line, Bernice. Make
sure nobody's on the business line so it can ring.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Why is that guy doing crystal call? Because this is
the thing now, is that it's I didn't expect Andy
Dalton to be terrible, didn't nearly expect him to be
this good. The fact that he was this good right
away tells me that Bryce Young is completely lost and
maybe he's got a future somewhere, but clearly it's not
gonna be with the Panthers. This is this was such

(53:57):
an eye opener that if teams are actually calling and
want Bryce Young, and I believe there are probably teams
that are doing that because hey, we're not sure about
our quarterback situation. Maybe a team like the Raiders is
calling for Bryce Young because look, Minshew's not really our guy.
We don't like Aidan O'Connell. I'm sure there's a few
teams that are saying, hey, maybe he'll play for us

(54:17):
this year. Maybe he doesn't work out with quarterback X,
he's gonna wind up playing for US back half the year.
Maybe we have something in it. Maybe we don't know.
So I firmly believe that, and even though you're not
gonna get really anything for him, you will get more
now for him than you will at the end of
the year when other quarterbacks become available and other quarterbacks

(54:40):
show themselves throughout college football season, where teams think, no,
we like these four quarterbacks. We're pretty sure we're gonna
get one of them in the draft. There's gonna be
much less of a market for Bryce Young following the
season because if he's a guy that stinks and never
sees the field again, Okay, you're still not gonna get
anything for him, but he's gonna be impoted. There won't
be any interest in him at least now. If it's hey,

(55:01):
third round pick, yes, you gave up a lot, but
here thing. Take advantage of the Panthers fans that are
so drunk with excitement after this win.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
They don't care if you got rid of Bryce Young
right now. They don't care that we traded up. Don't
make a bad decision. Worse, Yeah, we'll move on. We
traded away all those draft picks. I know it stinks,
but at least maybe the Bears aren't gonna go to
the super Bowl this year.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
So it's okay. If you get an okay package for
Bryce Young, now trade him. Because once the offseason hits
and many other players become available, it's different because it's
not like he's gonna stand out among the other guys
that are available. But he stands out now, former first
round pick just a year and a half. Maybe the
Panthers ruined him, maybe they didn't. Maybe he's a curiosity.

(55:43):
We can give up a third round pick, third and
a fourth whatever would be. But in the off season
it's gonna be well, yeah, we're a little bit curious
for Bryce Young, but we like these guys coming out
of college. We like these guys are probably not gonna
be And suddenly then it's we like Sam Darnold coming
off this year. Maybe he doesn't get resigned by the
Vikings because they have JJ McCarthy. We would rather go
with Sam Darnold. We would rather go with this guy.

(56:03):
There's more opportunity there. There's more better choices in the offseason.
So if they're serious and they're getting calls right now, yeah,
take advantage of the goodwill. You won a game.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
You know you're starting over again to quarterback next year.
So it makes no difference what you do with Bryce Young,
because clearly, after what you saw Sunday, there is really
no there's no redemption arc for Bryce Young in Carolina
at this point from any perspective. Now, since you invoked
his name, I'll give you the thirty second. JJ McCarthy
story of the weekend. A guy that I do some

(56:33):
business with in the card business back in Illinois. McCarthy
randomly showed up at his shop to buy some cards
and all of a sudden they had some kids hanging out.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Oh oh, that's cool like and he ended up pulling
like some crazy ass and one of one that they
then give away. It was pretty cool. But here he
is on crutches and whatever.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
But the idea with Bryce Young is now the evaluation
becomes where would you put him into this draft? And
the old quarterback whisp for idea of can we fix
him always comes in right when you're talking about McVeigh shanahan.
Go on down the line. Do you have someone that says,
you know what, I can get the bad habits out
of him? O'Connell bringing up Minnesota for that effect as well.

(57:15):
But you go through the process for Bryce Young. Look,
it's sunk costs. We've talked about this a bunch. That
trade's not getting reversed on appeal to the league or
anything else. It's gonna go down as one of the
bad trades. Whether the Bears go to a Super Bowl
eventually or not. It's just a lot for a little
in return, and if you've decided he's not fixable in

(57:37):
your system, Dave canallis, you know today reiterating that Andy
Dalton right now is number on QB one and gives
him the best chance to win, which is playing as
the nose on your face at this point, but that
if he's not a guy that you can fix, then yeah,
you cut bait, you get back a mid round pick,
and you move on. And if he goes on, you

(57:59):
wish him well, and that means he finds his way.
Much like we've talked about these other quarterbacks in a
post Jets world, you're Geno Smith, Sam Darnold and the like,
but for for Bryce Young. You know, I heard Alex
Smith talking on it a little clip making the rounds,
just saying, look, he should have never seen the field
a year ago. Well, unfortunately, as you and I have

(58:22):
talked about for years, it's a microwave society when it
comes to drafting a quarterback that high, even if it
logically based on personnel and everything, you say, yes, he
shouldn't see the fields the way you're gonna see the field.
Tom Blue in the face and I have been for
years that Hey, it's not time, it's not the space.

(58:45):
But you go and you put him out, and you
had a full sample size of a full season, and
then you come back with two games.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Guess what.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
There was no improvement. In fact, it looked worse, and
he looked skittish and confused. And then that the number
of hits that he took as a rookie sixty two sacks.
Let alone the number of times he got hit as
a ball carrier or hit when releasing the ball. I
mean that's a lot. That's a shell shock kind of
situation going on. Andy Dalton years of experience might be

(59:16):
a stopgap five games starter before he turns into a
pumpkin again. But at least for the moment, you got
a guy that just comes in and executes an offense.
Here's the plan, go execute it and make some plays,
and against a Raiders team, which will chronicle as we
go on a little bit more. That gave you a
no show effort, and Andy Dalton took full advantage of it.

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