September 24, 2024 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to a Monday night doubleheader to cap off Week 3 and break down how Josh Allen and Trevor Lawrence are in two completely different places among NFL QBs. Jason explains why the Panthers need to trade Bryce Young ASAP. Plus, the Raiders are officially irrelevant!
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since nineteen forty to not have a punt or a turnover,
that's what I call him. Bleepin' show Commanders beat the
Bengals thirty eight to thirty three. We'll have more on
that game coming up in a bit nineteen that had
the over in nineteen forty. Let me guess that was
probably Bears Redskins or Bears Giants or Bears, Packers or Giants.
(01:15):
Packs it involved I guarantee you that game involved two
of those four teams Packers, Redskins, Bears are Giants.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That was the game. There's only four teams. Good, it's
a good question. We have to go and get the
crack research you know we need.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Like I would ask Steve de Sager and he would
just call the great researcher, Sarah Lanx, who apparently he's I.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Don't know that, but I don't know what is over
into NFL. Oh why not? Like I think she does
baseball and then like and guard and you know that's
can't go outside those rails.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Being a great research you got you do more than
just that. I mean, come on, milk Kiper just doesn't
do NFL draft stuff. He does NBA draft stuff. You
see that he does that?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Does he do that any better than he does?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But the other game tonight that you probably watch for
the first half and then it's okay, now I'm just
gonna watch the Commanders in the Bengals. The Buffalo Bills
blow out the Jaguars forty seven to ten. Look, they
scored the first five times had the ball in the
first half and Josh Allen puts on a clinic. He
throws for two sixty three and four touchdowns, nearly a
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perfect quarterback rating, also runs for forty four yards. And
the Bills, we talked about it last hour. They are
the best team in the AFC. And you saw on
the field tonight two quarterbacks who are being paid to
be franchise quarterbacks and Josh Allen. There is no mistaking that,
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whatever your thoughts are on the Bills or where they are,
Josh Allen is worth every single penny of that contract.
Right now, they're getting him back to being the guy
he was earlier on in his career. The little more
design runs, you know, they wanted to get rid of
those a little bit. Now, we don't want put him
in harm's way. But now that's what he did. Uh,
it's what he does. You got to get him outside
the pocket running the football a couple of times, and
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they figured out a way to survive without Stefan Diggs
and Josh Allen tried to tell us all pre season long,
we're fine. We love the guys as lot. I love
all my receivers, like yeah, yeah, your receivers all stink.
None of them are any good and then suddenly it's oh, well, okay,
Well he just has to throw to Shakir for one
touchdown and Coleman for another touchdown, and Kinkaid for another touchdown,
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and James Cook for a fourth touchdown, and all right, maybe,
Josh Allen, we have to believe the guy because clearly,
maybe he's trying to get the ball. The Stefan Diggs
was the problem. Maybe trying to overserve him and not
worry about him being mad in the sideline yelling.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And screaming that haven't gotten the football.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Maybe that's something that is an addition by subtraction for
the Bills, because it's not like they brought in a
bunch of guys that were great. They were hoping without him,
Maybe the ball goes to a couple of guys a
little bit more. Lookkaid is an up and coming emerging
tight end. Maybe Shakira is an emerging force a wide receiver.
Coleman's a first round pick, Curtis Samuel's a guy that
can be dangerous in certain gadget type situations. So it's
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not like the Bills don't have the depth. But clearly, hey,
Josh Allen has shown we can take advantage of this
of the superstar quarterbacks getting paid like superstar quarterbacks. He's
a guy in the field that was deserving and believing it.
All you have to do is look at the way
both guys are playing. Josh Allen's the guy.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, we'll get to his counterpart in a moment, but
remember even once we got in season, right postgame presser,
he's on the sideline yucking it up and made sure
to point out how everybody just is looking to win right,
win their route, win the possession, score and push forward right,
everybody's pulling in the same direction. He did it in
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the on the field, and then when he met the
scrum after showering and everything else, he made sure to
reiterate that point, and that was a tone center for
the season. And look, there are plenty of folks that
still are not believers in Josh Allen. There's only one
team that wins Super Bowl each year. Doesn't mean the
other guys aren't great too, or you know, when we
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do the metal stands of great quarterbacks, Yes, Mahomes is here,
but other guys are. In that conversation, we'll talk about
one of the others off considered there who's in a
world of hurt right now, coming off of his Monday
night game. But when we look at what Josh Allen
and what Joe Brady they designed and worked together, spread
the ball around. You've got two tight ends, you've got
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cook out of the backfield, so you've got balance in
the run game, and even need to go to the
run game heavily tonight. I would have expected more of
it out of the gate and then pushing it. No great,
great game plan came out and attacked and defense got
after it. They hounded Trevor Lawrence on the evening. But
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when you're having that level of operational efficiency offensively and
you can just pull the strings of right now, it's
Keon Coleman's turn to shine. Hey, let's go back to
Shakir because you've already established last year that back and
forth as his number two option, just Stefon Diggs. So
all of that to say, they're just getting started offensively,
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and that's and that's got to be pretty damn scary
for the rest of the AFC.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
So there's your guy paid like a franchise quarterback who
absolutely is on the other side of the field was
Trevor Lawrence. And we've told you for a long time.
Trevor Lawrence is just a guy three years into the NFL.
You can continue to make excuses formal. His first year
was urban meyer, his second year was better, and he's
jumping off point. But last year he was dinged up
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offensive line problems at the beginning of the year, this
year all the You can't keep making excuses for a
guy forever. And Trevor Lawrence is someone who should not
have gotten paid the money that he did. He's not
a guy that should be setting the any sort of
bar for quarterbacks to get paid because he is a
league average quarterback. That's Trevor Lawrence. That's who he's been
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for his his career. He got paid in the spring
because he was a studded Clemson and he was a
generational pick. And the Jaguars of what do we do
if we don't have him? We really want to start
over again at quarterback where we've been starting over at
quarterback since we had Mark Brunell. So they got scared, right,
It's it's the it's the the philosophy that two people
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have who are dating. Where is this really going somewhere?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
We know it's not the best relationship. But being together
sounds a little bit less scary than breaking up and
doing our own thing right, Like like Pam and I
always joke around, like what would you do with that?
Would you do without me? Like like and Pamela, no, no,
well we both eat a lot of cheese. Pam always says,
you wouldn't be able to pay a bill. I said,
oh no, no, I have no idea I have I
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have no idea, like she pays a bill online. I
have no idea. I couldn't I couldn't hook up a computer.
I couldn't hook up a TV all the new TV.
I couldn't hook up a TV. I couldn't do anything.
I'm like I would I could do none of those things.
So my apartment would just be a room with books
and an iPad. Hey what it's a Wi Fi. All right,
I'm gonna be on my ipet So. But but for
you know, for relationships where it's like hey, all right,
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being being a part sounds scarier. And I'm not saying
that's a relationship. I'm just saying making a fun story
there is, like, you know, people don't want to break
up because ah, maybe the being a part is not
gonna be great. Well, being together doesn't work. And the
whole thing was the Jaguars were scared of boy. This
is really embarrassing for us if we have this generational
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talent who was a super studded Clemson and we don't
give him money and we don't keep him because this
is a contract that the NFL and other team's got
to be really mad about. Can't be mad at Jordan
Love guy and a great year starter, perfect quarterback grade
against the Cowboys in the playoffs. Okay, those guys get paid.
People understand that. To a time of I loa. Yes
he got hurt, but he's deserving.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Of that money. Trevor Lawrence is not league average guy.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And you saw tonight, Well you can't put the whole
game on him, but a couple of turnovers, horrible throw,
Demr Hamlin getting his first ever NFL interception, and you know,
kind of poetic that it happens on Monday night. You know,
got hit not protecting the football, turnover when he's throwing
the football, fumbles in the pocket. This is what happens
to Trevor Lawrence. He's not terrible. Okay, he's not a
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terrible I'm not saying he's bad, but this is kind
of who he is after three and a quarter years.
This is kind of who you are in the NFL.
They're only gonna they're only gonna make so much of you,
and you watch him. He's not a guy that elevates
his team. His reputation has been living off of the
comeback against the Chargers in the playoffs two years ago. Joe,
by the way he put him in that hole with
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four first half interceptions of that game. He's he's just okay.
He is a league average quarterback, and he's a jag.
He's just a guy. And he got paid way too soon.
They didn't have to pay him. And you're seeing now
we told you this months ago, and now the last
twenty four hours you see tonight. Oh hey, waited, Maybe
Trevor Lawrence isn't good. Remember we told you this month ago.
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That's why the show should be called ahead of the curve.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Now where it gets difficult when you go into the
Trevor Lawrence side. Look, there's plenty of contracts that you'd
scratch your head about. Right, the only contract that's made
any sense in any professional sports is a guy deferring
all his salary and trying to get it and make
his team good. He was worth every bit of the
two million dollars that show Heyo Tony everything else we
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could argue and he was only worth ten million, but
he got twelve. We could play this game all day
and at the quarterback position, there's always just that all
right next man up mentality? Should it break, should there
be a halt in that was this gonna be the
year with Dak Prescott? Yeah, but you knew what eleventh
hour Jerry was gonna come back in your venom.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Jerry was not gonna work as Jerry. Don't pay these
guys money. No, no, gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Venom. Gotta get out, gotta get out of my head. Guy.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Saw how you did? I saw that Eddie Brock got
do it. Maybe I should pay Eddie Broox some money.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Come in.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
He can report on the team and maybe he could play,
especially if venom. If you're in him, maybe give him
the football and then I wouldn't have to worry about
answering questions like why didn't you have money for Derek Henry.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Well, he wouldn't have to pan twice either. But the
idea being that next man up has always been the
way for quarterbacks, and it's not always pretty. Would you
believe Trevor Lawrence is actually a year younger than Jordan
Love and younger than most of the guys that just
got drafted. So we have that circumstance that also for
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the Trevor Lawrence crowd that backs him saying that there's
still better today his head, and there may be, but
certainly it's a tough look right now. Where Doug Peterson
was supposed to fix him, right you mentioned the urban
urban Meyer run there and the subsequent year and then
obviously last year, second half of the year he's banged up.
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All of that goes to the wayside because he played right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I can only judge what's on the field right, and
you can't give me the wacky doctors game operation after
the season ends goes well, all these body parts are looked,
they're glowing, so you can't you can't excuse it away.
He played, he played injured.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So now we go to the circumstance for him of
trying to figure out, you know, precisely, how do you
fix it? Can you fix it? Can Doug Peter? Is
Doug Peterson the guy to do it? At this point,
and the answer looks like a resounding no, because they've
cycled through the skill position guys. And but for an
etn fumble, maybe that's the thing that dooms it all right.
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All it took was one fumble that became an eighty
yard Tyreek Hill touchdown throw from dow and tungue Iloat
one play later to doom whatever renaissance Trevor Lawrence and
company may have had. Look hout quickly, it goes to hell.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And look, the thing is is that I know the
general consensu is gonna be oh mac Jones. That yeah,
I thought for sure mac Jones would get a chance
until they paid Trevor Lawrence. Like I thought, okay, mac Jones,
he signs here. This is one of those things that
the Jaguars doing smartly to say, hey, Trevor, little bit
of a push, like got you a push going into
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year four and he needs something here. But instead they decided, no,
we're gonna pay you.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well, you know, he got to get into Yeah, he
got stripped. There was a stripped ye, yeah, I mean
just way.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Like you know, look, Peterson will get fired, Belichick will
come in, he'll bench be bench Trevor Lawrence from mac Jones.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It'll be awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
But no, but look, I thought for sharing the off season,
all right, I like the Jaguars, Like I say, they're
bringing in mac Jones, and that's kind of the general
nudge that Trevor is gonna get. But no, no, no, Then
they give Trevor Lawrence fifty five million dollars a year
and it's okay, uh, guess who's the guy?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So now you're stuck. And that's a big thing is that?
Is that?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yes, like, it's miserable in the NFL without a quarterback,
right that That is one of the few tenants that
goes from nineteen eighty all the way till now. Life
is miserable without a quarterback. But it's all so miserable
when you lock into a guy who is not going
to lift you up. And suddenly, as much as a
salary cap keeps going up, you're still stuck with guys
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for a couple of years because dead kept money is
in seventy eighty ninety million dollars. So the Jaguars right
now they're stuck with Trevor Lawrence on this contract.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The thing that is most concerning right is if he
was at least putting up some numbers and then makes
the odd, odd throw whatever tipped interception or just a
bad throw, trying to fit it into a spot. But
he's not even hitting open receivers. Maybe there's some separation
thing we could go through and go advance metrics and
all of that. But you got eight losses in a row,
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and during that stretch he's been under sixty percent completion
virtually every game. That's unconscionable. In twenty twenty four, NFL
and College foot go back to college football, man, how
many guys are completing eighty percent of their passes in college?
In the pros, we set the benchmark at sixty three
sixty four percent, that's just to be okay, and then
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we roll from there. He was at fifty one percent
coming into this game. Now they'd lost those games by
a combined eight points. They're like, okay, are they this bad?
And then they go out and get absolutely shall apped
on Monday Night football and the Bills are the best
team in the AFC, so you say, all right, on
the schedule. Then they got they got beaten by the best, Like, well,
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how do they respond to this? Like what am I?
What am I? Gonna expect going forward, absolutely nothing. I'm
expecting them to maybe be drafting his replacement or being
in competition to do so, or maybe you can trade
and add four new offensive linemen and maybe that'll solve
it all.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But the point being is right now you got a
guy with and there's no direction for Jacksonville. All the
wishing and hoping and goodwill coming out of that comeback
win against the Chargers that led to changes there and
everything else, and and series of unrest that there for
Doug Peterson, he's got to try to figure out the
answers with that roster.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
They're not there telling.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Me Man Trevor's just a jag. Sorry, but he is.
And now everybody's gonna start seeing this information is free
reb we told you this month ago.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I mean, he's been a jag for a couple of
years now. He's a double jag, like a double secret agent.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
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Speaker 3 (16:35):
Well, coming up.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Next, we'll have more reaction on Monday Night football, plus
a story that I have come around on so much
in the last twenty four hours out of the NFL.
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Speaker 3 (17:03):
Is that the scene in San Francisco right now, Buddy
or Metsville?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
The San Francisco Giants close out the Diamondbacks six to three,
So now the wild card standings in the National League
look like this, in first place San Diego Padres, who
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should be clinching any day now, second place the New
York Mets, followed by the Arizona Diamondbacks, and then the
Atlanta Braves two games behind as the series to end
all series begins tomorrow with the Mets and the Braves.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
How great is that going to be to be on
air as that comes to an end. Depends how the
game goes. Well, it'll be a glorious regardless because we'll
be here in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Depends how
the game goes. And obviously you got Dodgers padres.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, no, no, no, great series, guy, I think I
don't think they've played a series since like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
And the White Sox will go for lost. Yeah, let's go.
They tied the Mets.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, And I'm one of those guys who just keeps
hitting refresh on the standings, so because I want to
see I want to see the Mets higher than the
Diamond was.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I gotta see it came on refreshed. It's not really
you put it on your stupid standings, paid jerk.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Because then there's this tiny part of me going no, no, no,
no no. You can't pretend like this didn't happen now
just because you don't put it in the standings.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
My hope is all night you hit a bad server
that doesn't update, it's like and everybody's like, no, it's
updated on mine. I don't know what's wrong with yours
big night in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
We had two Monday night games, and look, let's face it,
we're not too far away from four Monday night games
soon enough.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But I'll tuch spanch it about EXPANSI.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
How about this d NFL. What if they did this Sunday?
You got two early games, okay, and two late games. Right,
so you're one o'clock, four o'clock o'clock, but we get
two games in the early window, two games in late one.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You gotta have options.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Four games on Sunday night, okay, four games on Monday night,
four games on Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I mean you do get the quad box if you
buy the package that.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Gets you to that gets you to sixteen. Now obviously, hey,
look at you made. It would being a couple of
less when you get to bye weeks, obviously, but we
could fill that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, looking, yeah, two games on two games on this
guy's got a bye week. I thought I had a
bye week. Nope, we're contractually obligated to sit in a
chair and let people stare at that's where the NFL's
ending right now. Yeah, No, it's good.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Two games early Sunday, two games late, four games at night,
four games Monday night, four games Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I like the cut of your jib.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I mean it's innovative in the idea that by Sunday night,
I mean you got family dinner or at the very least,
you're done with all the kid activities, right, the infernal
bounce house kid parties. You know, you've had them out
there and you're all nodding along, going, yeah, I can
use less than those, but those will be over and
won't interrupt your football watching. Maybe someone with a fall wedding,
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oh listening, Yeah, you know, just fall gatherings in general,
where you're like, there's football to be watched now here
on Sunday, that'll be done.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And you'll be able to go into the night. I
mean you'll miss those four games, but you won't miss
critical mass. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
No, no, it's okay. And because you know, well, I'm
not missing twelve games, I'm missing four four. I mean
you spread it out that way. I mean we'll go
to the four day work week Monday through Wednesday and Friday,
because you got to be home, you know, to get
yourself prepared to watch the Quaday night.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Of course, the quad it's own point.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So we get to be on one of those broadcast. Yeah,
it's time for us to take well, just take our
show live. They would just have put it right on there.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But I've been pitching that for years. Far more engaging
than what you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Big reactions to Monday Night Football coming up in a
few minutes. But how about the the most stunning reaction
of the last twenty four hours in the NFL, and
in fact, a story that I've come around on just
because what I saw yesterday was just so shocking. Andy Dalton,
who is inevitable Andy Dalton, shows up off the bench
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for Carolina, hardly any reps and says, oh, yeah, I'm
going to throw the ball to my guys, and Deontay
Johnson is going to have a big day.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And hey, Savior, I don't be wondering where you are.
First round you a couple of times, can I feel it? Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And all of a sudden, Andy Dalton comes in. It
was the Raiders and and you know, there is a
little bit to be he said to Tampa down a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But he is a man with thirty eight thousand passing
yards for his career. He's no slouch.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But this was I don't sell I'm short. He's a
tremendous slouch. But this was a game in which the
worst team in the NFL and it wasn't close, blows
out the Raiders and Dalton three nineteen and three touchdowns. Right,
Chobe Hubbard runs for one hundred yards. Deontay Johnson had
one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
This was the exact and total opposite of what you
had got in the first two weeks, where it was
getting blood from a stone with Bryce Young at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Okay, now, couldn't hit a basic noack out No, I
mean this is set up a screen or anyhow.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
This shows you that maybe the Panthers are a little
bit better than you think, because here's Andy.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Dalton again, who is inevitable.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Here's Andy Dalton again, who is suddenly just off the
bench going yeah, I'm good, We're good, We're good. Former
QB one, We're good. This division is not that great.
I can roll right through it. I'm feeling great with
no reps anything else. I know what to do with
the football. With all the talk about Bryce Young and
teams calling the Panthers for Bryce Young. Okay, now, what
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did I say last week?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Listen, you know you need him to play. At some
point he's gonna have to get back in there. You
have to give him time to calm down and start
seeing the game a little bit differently. We got to
make sure that he's not your guy. You got to
make absolute sure because you went and gave him a
lot to go get him, and he's a number one
overall pick, and you got to make sure this year
if you're gonna move on now, No you don't, because
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clearly he's got issues that you're not going to fix.
And if it's true that teams are calling the Panthers
for Bryce Young, trade him right now? Yeah, but I
have to wonder how much right now is real or
a right That's what I'm saying. Hey, tell tell folks
we're not interested in trading him.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
No, no, no, get the word out. Tell people that we've
got a bidding war that's commenced. But I thought you
said you weren't interested. It's just tell people that they're calling.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Phone lines are open. Make sure make sure nobody's on
the bus this line, Bernice. Make sure nobody's on the
business line so it can ring rever.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Why is that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Because this is the thing now, is that it's I
didn't expect Andy Dalton to be terrible, didn't nearly expect
him to be this good. The fact that he was
this good right away tells me that Bryce Young is
completely lost and maybe he's got a future somewhere, but
clearly it's not gonna be with the Panthers. This is
this was such an eye opener that if teams are
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actually calling and want Bryce Young, and I believe there
are probably teams that are doing that because hey, we're
not sure about our quarterback situation. Maybe a team like
the Raiders is calling for Bryce Young because look, Minshew's
not really our guy. We do like Aid and O'Connell.
I'm sure there's a few teams that are saying, hey,
maybe he'll play for us this year. Maybe doesn't work
out with quarterback X, he's gonna wind up playing for
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us back half of the year. Maybe we have something
in it. Maybe we don't know. Uh So I firmly
believe that. And even though you're not gonna get really
anything for him, you will get more now for him
then you will at the end of the year when
other quarterbacks become available and other quarterbacks show themselves. Throughout
college football season, where teams think no, we like these
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four quarterbacks. We're pretty sure we're gonna get one of
them in the draft. There's gonna be much less of
a market for Bryce Young following the season because if
he's a guy that stinks and never sees the field again, Okay,
you're still not going to get anything for him, but
he's gonna be impoted. There won't be any interest in
him at least now. If it's hey third round pick, yes,
you gave up a lot, but here thing take advantage
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of the Panthers fans that are so drunk with excitement
after this win. They don't care if you got rid
of Bryce Young right now. They don't care that we
traded up. Don't make a bad decision. Worse, Yeah, we'll
move on. We traded away all those draft picks. I
know it stinks, but at least maybe the Bears aren't
going to go to the super Bowl this year. So
it's okay. If you get an okay package for Bryce Young,
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now trade him. Because once the offseason hits and many
other players become available, it's different because it's not like
he's gonna stand out among the other guys that are available,
but he stands out now former first round pick just
a year and a half. Maybe the Panthers ruined him,
maybe they didn't. Maybe he's a curiosity. We can give
up a third round pick, third and a fourth whatever
would be. But in the off season it's gonna be well, yeah,
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we're a little bit curious for Bryce Young, but we
like these guys coming out of college. We like these
guys are probably not gonna be And suddenly then it's
we like Sam Darnald coming off this year. Maybe he
doesn't get resigned by the Vikings because they have JJ McCarthy.
We would rather go with Sam Donald. We would rather
go with this guy. There's more opportunity there, there's more
better choices in the offseason. So if they're serious and
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they're getting calls right now, yeah, take advantage of the goodwill.
You won a game. You know you're starting over again
to quarterback next year. So it makes no difference what
you do with Bryce Young, because clearly, after what you
saw Sunday, there is really no there's no redemption arc
for Bryce Young in Carolina at this point from any perspective.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Now, since you invoked his name, I'll give you the
thirty second JJ McCarthy story. Of the weekend. A guy
that I do some business with in the card business
back in Illinois, McCarthy randomly showed up at a shop
to buy some cards and all of a sudden they
had some kids hanging out. Oh oh, that's like and
he ended up pulling like some crazy ass one of
one that they then give away. It was pretty cool.
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But here he is on crutches and whatever. But the
idea with Bryce Young is now the evaluation becomes where
would you put him into this draft? And the old
quarterback whisperer idea of can we fix him always comes
in right when you're talking about McVeigh shanahan. Go on
down the line. Do you have someone that says, you
know what, I can get the bad habits out of them?
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O'Connell bringing up Minnesota for that effect as well. But
you go through the process for Bryce Young. Look, it's
sunk costs. We've talked about this a bunch. That trade's
not getting reversed on appeal to the league or anything else.
It's gonna go down as one of the bad trades,
whether the Bears go to a Super Bowl eventually or not.
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It's just a lot for a little in return. And
if you've decided he's not fixable in your system. Dave Canalis,
you know today reiterating that Andy Dalton right now is
number on QB one and gives him the best chance
to win, which is playing is the nose on your
face at this point, but that if he's not a
guy that you can fix, then yeah, you cut bait,
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you get back a mid round pick, and you move on.
And if he goes on, you wish him well, and
that means he finds his way. Much like we've talked
about these other quarterbacks in a post Jets world, you're
Geno Smith, Sam Darnold and the like. But for Bryce Young.
You know, I heard Alex Smith talking on it a
little clip making the rounds, just saying, look, he should
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have never seen the field a year ago. Well, unfortunately,
as you and I have talked about for years, it's
a microwave society when it comes to drafting a quarterback
that high, even if it logically based on personnel and everything,
you say, yes, he shouldn't see the field, You're gonna
see the field, I'll argue, all blue in the face,
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and I have been for years that hey, it's not time.
It's not the space. But you go and you put
him out, and you had a full sample size of
a full season, and then you come back with two games.
Guess what, There was no improvement. In fact, it looked worse,
and he looked skittish and confused. And then that the
number of hits that he took as a rookie sixty
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two sacks. Let alone the number of times he got
hit as a ball carrier or hit when releasing the ball.
I mean, there's that's a lot. That's a shell shock
kind of situation going on. Andy Dalton years of experience
might be a stop gap five games starter before he
turns into a pumpkin again. But at least for the moment,
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you got a guy that just comes in and executes
an offense. Here's the plan, go execute it and make
some plays, and against a Raiders team which will cron
As we go on a little bit more. That gave
you a no show effort, and Andy Dalton took full
advantage of it.
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biggest story Monday, coming off a week three of the
NFL had to do with the Raiders, because, well, when
you go in and play the Panthers, Panthers making a
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quarterback change, they beat you pretty bad. That's a little embarrassing.
But Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce wanted to make sure
people understood there are some things he saw during that
loss to the Red Rifle, because Andy Dalton is inevitable
that he really didn't like.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
No, he didn't. I think as the game went on,
I don't think it was a team it was. I
think there was definitely some individuals that made business decisions
and what make business decisions going forward as well?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You business, Yeah, I'm done, We're getting thumped by the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Man.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Ah, business decisions, Well, they made business decisions.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
You know what, we can make.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Business decisions too, guess what you helped assemble that roster.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Those are your guys, Hey, DeVante Adams.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I'll get you to New York like four weeks earlier
than you think you're gonna get there. Now, look, this
is a big thing. Obviously, there's gonna be changes.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Raiders.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
This is just how they operate, man. And the thing
is is that they have become completely irrelevant. Like for
a long time, there were three teams in the NFL that,
no matter what they did, they had huge interest across
the country. Cowboys, Steelers, Raiders, no matter what, huge interest
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across country. When they're really really good most of the
time or the very few times they're bad or in
the middle, doesn't matter. Cowboys, Steelers, Raiders. Well, now that's
two teams. Because the Raiders have become irrelevant. They are
now the latest team I'm putting in sports Stonehenge.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Okay, there, Sports Stone Does this mean you're retiring the
Oakle Alameda County Coliseum? Anything anything with the right look.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Raider image city walk just like Stonehenge where it was
very famous a long time ago, but nobody really remembers
why anybody paid attention. That's kind of where the Raiders
are they still got you to go see it when
you were overseeing. So if I have a sports stone enge,
I had to go see Stonehenge.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And the teams are there.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
To teams were there. There's Brazilian soccer.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Why are you? Why are you putting down little stadium?
There's us all. Look there's a seventy six ers. Look
at all these teams. But like that your card that
you put it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
They have become absolutely irrelevant in the NFL because they
can't get out of their own way. They haven't, there's
no plan, and they've gone from the team everybody loves
to hate, you respect them. Then it was oh, but
look at they're down. I love kicking them while they're down.
And now it's it's not even fun anymore because they can't.
They can't put one foot in front of the other
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for more than five seconds.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You see. They have two winning seats, two double digit
win seasons since two thousand and two, going all the
way back to rich Gannon. And I mean they've.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Charlie Garner and they had the one year where it
looked like they were gonna go really far and then
Derek Carr got Home's a great season. They looked like
that would have been the Y twenty sixteen two dubble.
Even the Jets have more double digit wins in the
last twenty years. And then that's how irrelevant The Raiders are.
Absolutely irrelevant, Like the point nobody pays attention, Like making
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fun of the Raiders isn't what it used to be.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
None of it. None of it is.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Because there's no hey oh, now they're good to make
the downtime seem sweeter, or hey boy, I really respect
the Raiders. They're fun to talk about. No, they're done.
You don't even make fun of the team anymore. You know,
you go after their fans, but you don't go after
the team anymore.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
They they have, they have fallen off the map of
the end and look out quickly life changes though, right
like a week ago, they beat the Ravens in the
big comeback Gardner Minshews the toast to the town and
everything's coming up Antonio Pierce of, well, okay, they should
have lost that game. Who knows what's gonna happen? And
then Andy Dalton sunned them and sent them right back
into the pits of despair to where Antonio Pierce had
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to say that today business.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Decisions, Yeah, we'll make business decision. Where are you gonna
go find reserves? Where are you gonna go find guys
on your practice squad? Those guys aren't out there to
replace the guys that you suddenly don't like. Note there's
no but there's nobody there. There's no one. There's absolutely
no one. And evening O'Connell, What is that the switch
that's gonna spark you? Even if beating the raven Beating
(35:09):
the Ravens last week was boy, the Ravens collapsed. It's
just you're embarrassed to lose to a bottom feeder team.
They're not even interesting bottom feeder anymore. They have become
they're so yeah the White Sox logo. Dude, again, you're
proving more of that point. Why do you think I
said it? Coming up next, a tail of two quarterbacks
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coming off a Monday night football. One has just become
a superstar.
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since nineteen forty to not have a punt or a turnover,
that's what I call him. Bleepin' show Commanders beat the
Bengals thirty eight to thirty three. We'll have more on
that game coming up in a bit nineteen that had
the over in nineteen forty. Let me guess that was
probably Bears Redskins or Bears Giants or Bears, Packers or Giants.
(01:15):
Packs it involved I guarantee you that game involved two
of those four teams Packers, Redskins, Bears are Giants.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That was the game. There's only four teams. Good, it's
a good question. We have to go and get the
crack research you know we need.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Like I would ask Steve de Sager and he would
just call the great researcher, Sarah Lanx, who apparently he's I.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Don't know that, but I don't know what is over
into NFL. Oh why not? Like I think she does
baseball and then like and guard and you know that's
can't go outside those rails.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Being a great research you got you do more than
just that. I mean, come on, milk Kiper just doesn't
do NFL draft stuff. He does NBA draft stuff. You
see that he does that?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Does he do that any better than he does?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But the other game tonight that you probably watch for
the first half and then it's okay, now I'm just
gonna watch the Commanders in the Bengals. The Buffalo Bills
blow out the Jaguars forty seven to ten. Look, they
scored the first five times had the ball in the
first half and Josh Allen puts on a clinic. He
throws for two sixty three and four touchdowns, nearly a
(02:22):
perfect quarterback rating, also runs for forty four yards. And
the Bills, we talked about it last hour. They are
the best team in the AFC. And you saw on
the field tonight two quarterbacks who are being paid to
be franchise quarterbacks and Josh Allen. There is no mistaking that,
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whatever your thoughts are on the Bills or where they are,
Josh Allen is worth every single penny of that contract.
Right now, they're getting him back to being the guy
he was earlier on in his career. The little more
design runs, you know, they wanted to get rid of
those a little bit. Now, we don't want put him
in harm's way. But now that's what he did. Uh,
it's what he does. You got to get him outside
the pocket running the football a couple of times, and
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they figured out a way to survive without Stefan Diggs
and Josh Allen tried to tell us all pre season long,
we're fine. We love the guys as lot. I love
all my receivers, like yeah, yeah, your receivers all stink.
None of them are any good and then suddenly it's oh, well, okay,
Well he just has to throw to Shakir for one
touchdown and Coleman for another touchdown, and Kinkaid for another touchdown,
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and James Cook for a fourth touchdown, and all right, maybe,
Josh Allen, we have to believe the guy because clearly,
maybe he's trying to get the ball. The Stefan Diggs
was the problem. Maybe trying to overserve him and not
worry about him being mad in the sideline yelling.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And screaming that haven't gotten the football.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Maybe that's something that is an addition by subtraction for
the Bills, because it's not like they brought in a
bunch of guys that were great. They were hoping without him,
Maybe the ball goes to a couple of guys a
little bit more. Lookkaid is an up and coming emerging
tight end. Maybe Shakira is an emerging force a wide receiver.
Coleman's a first round pick, Curtis Samuel's a guy that
can be dangerous in certain gadget type situations. So it's
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not like the Bills don't have the depth. But clearly, hey,
Josh Allen has shown we can take advantage of this
of the superstar quarterbacks getting paid like superstar quarterbacks. He's
a guy in the field that was deserving and believing it.
All you have to do is look at the way
both guys are playing. Josh Allen's the guy.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, we'll get to his counterpart in a moment, but
remember even once we got in season, right postgame presser,
he's on the sideline yucking it up and made sure
to point out how everybody just is looking to win right,
win their route, win the possession, score and push forward right,
everybody's pulling in the same direction. He did it in
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the on the field, and then when he met the
scrum after showering and everything else, he made sure to
reiterate that point, and that was a tone center for
the season. And look, there are plenty of folks that
still are not believers in Josh Allen. There's only one
team that wins Super Bowl each year. Doesn't mean the
other guys aren't great too, or you know, when we
(05:05):
do the metal stands of great quarterbacks, Yes, Mahomes is here,
but other guys are. In that conversation, we'll talk about
one of the others off considered there who's in a
world of hurt right now, coming off of his Monday
night game. But when we look at what Josh Allen
and what Joe Brady they designed and worked together, spread
the ball around. You've got two tight ends, you've got
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cook out of the backfield, so you've got balance in
the run game, and even need to go to the
run game heavily tonight. I would have expected more of
it out of the gate and then pushing it. No great,
great game plan came out and attacked and defense got
after it. They hounded Trevor Lawrence on the evening. But
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when you're having that level of operational efficiency offensively and
you can just pull the strings of right now, it's
Keon Coleman's turn to shine. Hey, let's go back to
Shakir because you've already established last year that back and
forth as his number two option, just Stefon Diggs. So
all of that to say, they're just getting started offensively,
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and that's and that's got to be pretty damn scary
for the rest of the AFC.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
So there's your guy paid like a franchise quarterback who
absolutely is on the other side of the field was
Trevor Lawrence. And we've told you for a long time.
Trevor Lawrence is just a guy three years into the NFL.
You can continue to make excuses formal. His first year
was urban meyer, his second year was better, and he's
jumping off point. But last year he was dinged up
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offensive line problems at the beginning of the year, this
year all the You can't keep making excuses for a
guy forever. And Trevor Lawrence is someone who should not
have gotten paid the money that he did. He's not
a guy that should be setting the any sort of
bar for quarterbacks to get paid because he is a
league average quarterback. That's Trevor Lawrence. That's who he's been
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for his his career. He got paid in the spring
because he was a studded Clemson and he was a
generational pick. And the Jaguars of what do we do
if we don't have him? We really want to start
over again at quarterback where we've been starting over at
quarterback since we had Mark Brunell. So they got scared, right,
It's it's the it's the the philosophy that two people
(07:19):
have who are dating. Where is this really going somewhere?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
We know it's not the best relationship. But being together
sounds a little bit less scary than breaking up and
doing our own thing right, Like like Pam and I
always joke around, like what would you do with that?
Would you do without me? Like like and Pamela, no, no,
well we both eat a lot of cheese. Pam always says,
you wouldn't be able to pay a bill. I said,
oh no, no, I have no idea I have I
(07:44):
have no idea, like she pays a bill online. I
have no idea. I couldn't I couldn't hook up a computer.
I couldn't hook up a TV all the new TV.
I couldn't hook up a TV. I couldn't do anything.
I'm like I would I could do none of those things.
So my apartment would just be a room with books
and an iPad. Hey what it's a Wi Fi. All right,
I'm gonna be on my ipet So. But but for
you know, for relationships where it's like hey, all right,
(08:06):
being being a part sounds scarier. And I'm not saying
that's a relationship. I'm just saying making a fun story
there is, like, you know, people don't want to break
up because ah, maybe the being a part is not
gonna be great. Well, being together doesn't work. And the
whole thing was the Jaguars were scared of boy. This
is really embarrassing for us if we have this generational
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talent who was a super studded Clemson and we don't
give him money and we don't keep him because this
is a contract that the NFL and other team's got
to be really mad about. Can't be mad at Jordan
Love guy and a great year starter, perfect quarterback grade
against the Cowboys in the playoffs. Okay, those guys get paid.
People understand that. To a time of I loa. Yes
he got hurt, but he's deserving.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Of that money. Trevor Lawrence is not league average guy.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And you saw tonight, Well you can't put the whole
game on him, but a couple of turnovers, horrible throw,
Demr Hamlin getting his first ever NFL interception, and you know,
kind of poetic that it happens on Monday night. You know,
got hit not protecting the football, turnover when he's throwing
the football, fumbles in the pocket. This is what happens
to Trevor Lawrence. He's not terrible. Okay, he's not a
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terrible I'm not saying he's bad, but this is kind
of who he is after three and a quarter years.
This is kind of who you are in the NFL.
They're only gonna they're only gonna make so much of you,
and you watch him. He's not a guy that elevates
his team. His reputation has been living off of the
comeback against the Chargers in the playoffs two years ago. Joe,
by the way he put him in that hole with
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four first half interceptions of that game. He's he's just okay.
He is a league average quarterback, and he's a jag.
He's just a guy. And he got paid way too soon.
They didn't have to pay him. And you're seeing now
we told you this months ago, and now the last
twenty four hours you see tonight. Oh hey, waited, Maybe
Trevor Lawrence isn't good. Remember we told you this month ago.
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That's why the show should be called ahead of the curve.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Now where it gets difficult when you go into the
Trevor Lawrence side. Look, there's plenty of contracts that you'd
scratch your head about. Right, the only contract that's made
any sense in any professional sports is a guy deferring
all his salary and trying to get it and make
his team good. He was worth every bit of the
two million dollars that show Heyo Tony everything else we
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could argue and he was only worth ten million, but
he got twelve. We could play this game all day
and at the quarterback position, there's always just that all
right next man up mentality? Should it break, should there
be a halt in that was this gonna be the
year with Dak Prescott? Yeah, but you knew what eleventh
hour Jerry was gonna come back in your venom.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Jerry was not gonna work as Jerry. Don't pay these
guys money. No, no, gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Venom. Gotta get out, gotta get out of my head. Guy.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Saw how you did? I saw that Eddie Brock got
do it. Maybe I should pay Eddie Broox some money.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Come in.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
He can report on the team and maybe he could play,
especially if venom. If you're in him, maybe give him
the football and then I wouldn't have to worry about
answering questions like why didn't you have money for Derek Henry.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Well, he wouldn't have to pan twice either. But the
idea being that next man up has always been the
way for quarterbacks, and it's not always pretty. Would you
believe Trevor Lawrence is actually a year younger than Jordan
Love and younger than most of the guys that just
got drafted. So we have that circumstance that also for
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the Trevor Lawrence crowd that backs him saying that there's
still better today his head, and there may be, but
certainly it's a tough look right now. Where Doug Peterson
was supposed to fix him, right you mentioned the urban
urban Meyer run there and the subsequent year and then
obviously last year, second half of the year he's banged up.
(11:45):
All of that goes to the wayside because he played right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I can only judge what's on the field right, and
you can't give me the wacky doctors game operation after
the season ends goes well, all these body parts are looked,
they're glowing, so you can't you can't excuse it away.
He played, he played injured.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So now we go to the circumstance for him of
trying to figure out, you know, precisely, how do you
fix it? Can you fix it? Can Doug Peter? Is
Doug Peterson the guy to do it? At this point,
and the answer looks like a resounding no, because they've
cycled through the skill position guys. And but for an
etn fumble, maybe that's the thing that dooms it all right.
(12:28):
All it took was one fumble that became an eighty
yard Tyreek Hill touchdown throw from dow and tungue Iloat
one play later to doom whatever renaissance Trevor Lawrence and
company may have had. Look hout quickly, it goes to hell.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And look, the thing is is that I know the
general consensu is gonna be oh mac Jones. That yeah,
I thought for sure mac Jones would get a chance
until they paid Trevor Lawrence. Like I thought, okay, mac Jones,
he signs here. This is one of those things that
the Jaguars doing smartly to say, hey, Trevor, little bit
of a push, like got you a push going into
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year four and he needs something here. But instead they decided, no,
we're gonna pay you.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well, you know, he got to get into Yeah, he
got stripped. There was a stripped ye, yeah, I mean
just way.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Like you know, look, Peterson will get fired, Belichick will
come in, he'll bench be bench Trevor Lawrence from mac Jones.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It'll be awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
But no, but look, I thought for sharing the off season,
all right, I like the Jaguars, Like I say, they're
bringing in mac Jones, and that's kind of the general
nudge that Trevor is gonna get. But no, no, no, Then
they give Trevor Lawrence fifty five million dollars a year
and it's okay, uh, guess who's the guy?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So now you're stuck. And that's a big thing is that?
Is that?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yes, like, it's miserable in the NFL without a quarterback,
right that That is one of the few tenants that
goes from nineteen eighty all the way till now. Life
is miserable without a quarterback. But it's all so miserable
when you lock into a guy who is not going
to lift you up. And suddenly, as much as a
salary cap keeps going up, you're still stuck with guys
(13:58):
for a couple of years because dead kept money is
in seventy eighty ninety million dollars. So the Jaguars right
now they're stuck with Trevor Lawrence on this contract.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The thing that is most concerning right is if he
was at least putting up some numbers and then makes
the odd, odd throw whatever tipped interception or just a
bad throw, trying to fit it into a spot. But
he's not even hitting open receivers. Maybe there's some separation
thing we could go through and go advance metrics and
all of that. But you got eight losses in a row,
(14:30):
and during that stretch he's been under sixty percent completion
virtually every game. That's unconscionable. In twenty twenty four, NFL
and College foot go back to college football, man, how
many guys are completing eighty percent of their passes in college?
In the pros, we set the benchmark at sixty three
sixty four percent, that's just to be okay, and then
(14:54):
we roll from there. He was at fifty one percent
coming into this game. Now they'd lost those games by
a combined eight points. They're like, okay, are they this bad?
And then they go out and get absolutely shall apped
on Monday Night football and the Bills are the best
team in the AFC, so you say, all right, on
the schedule. Then they got they got beaten by the best, Like, well,
(15:16):
how do they respond to this? Like what am I?
What am I? Gonna expect going forward, absolutely nothing. I'm
expecting them to maybe be drafting his replacement or being
in competition to do so, or maybe you can trade
and add four new offensive linemen and maybe that'll solve
it all.
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But the point being is right now you got a
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wishing and hoping and goodwill coming out of that comeback
win against the Chargers that led to changes there and
everything else, and and series of unrest that there for
Doug Peterson, he's got to try to figure out the
answers with that roster.
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Speaker 1 (16:36):
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a story that I have come around on so much
in the last twenty four hours out of the NFL.
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Speaker 3 (17:03):
Is that the scene in San Francisco right now, Buddy
or Metsville?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
The San Francisco Giants close out the Diamondbacks six to three,
So now the wild card standings in the National League
look like this, in first place San Diego Padres, who
(17:29):
should be clinching any day now, second place the New
York Mets, followed by the Arizona Diamondbacks, and then the
Atlanta Braves two games behind as the series to end
all series begins tomorrow with the Mets and the Braves.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
How great is that going to be to be on
air as that comes to an end. Depends how the
game goes. Well, it'll be a glorious regardless because we'll
be here in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Depends how
the game goes. And obviously you got Dodgers padres.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, no, no, no, great series, guy, I think I
don't think they've played a series since like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
And the White Sox will go for lost. Yeah, let's go.
They tied the Mets.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, And I'm one of those guys who just keeps
hitting refresh on the standings, so because I want to
see I want to see the Mets higher than the
Diamond was.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I gotta see it came on refreshed. It's not really
you put it on your stupid standings, paid jerk.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Because then there's this tiny part of me going no, no, no,
no no. You can't pretend like this didn't happen now
just because you don't put it in the standings.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
My hope is all night you hit a bad server
that doesn't update, it's like and everybody's like, no, it's
updated on mine. I don't know what's wrong with yours
big night in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
We had two Monday night games, and look, let's face it,
we're not too far away from four Monday night games
soon enough.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But I'll tuch spanch it about EXPANSI.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
How about this d NFL. What if they did this Sunday?
You got two early games, okay, and two late games. Right,
so you're one o'clock, four o'clock o'clock, but we get
two games in the early window, two games in late one.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You gotta have options.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Four games on Sunday night, okay, four games on Monday night,
four games on Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I mean you do get the quad box if you
buy the package that.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Gets you to that gets you to sixteen. Now obviously, hey,
look at you made. It would being a couple of
less when you get to bye weeks, obviously, but we
could fill that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, looking, yeah, two games on two games on this
guy's got a bye week. I thought I had a
bye week. Nope, we're contractually obligated to sit in a
chair and let people stare at that's where the NFL's
ending right now. Yeah, No, it's good.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Two games early Sunday, two games late, four games at night,
four games Monday night, four games Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I like the cut of your jib.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I mean it's innovative in the idea that by Sunday night,
I mean you got family dinner or at the very least,
you're done with all the kid activities, right, the infernal
bounce house kid parties. You know, you've had them out
there and you're all nodding along, going, yeah, I can
use less than those, but those will be over and
won't interrupt your football watching. Maybe someone with a fall wedding,
(20:19):
oh listening, Yeah, you know, just fall gatherings in general,
where you're like, there's football to be watched now here
on Sunday, that'll be done.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And you'll be able to go into the night. I
mean you'll miss those four games, but you won't miss
critical mass. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
No, no, it's okay. And because you know, well, I'm
not missing twelve games, I'm missing four four. I mean
you spread it out that way. I mean we'll go
to the four day work week Monday through Wednesday and Friday,
because you got to be home, you know, to get
yourself prepared to watch the Quaday night.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Of course, the quad it's own point.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So we get to be on one of those broadcast. Yeah,
it's time for us to take well, just take our
show live. They would just have put it right on there.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But I've been pitching that for years. Far more engaging
than what you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Big reactions to Monday Night Football coming up in a
few minutes. But how about the the most stunning reaction
of the last twenty four hours in the NFL, and
in fact, a story that I've come around on just
because what I saw yesterday was just so shocking. Andy Dalton,
who is inevitable Andy Dalton, shows up off the bench
(21:34):
for Carolina, hardly any reps and says, oh, yeah, I'm
going to throw the ball to my guys, and Deontay
Johnson is going to have a big day.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And hey, Savior, I don't be wondering where you are.
First round you a couple of times, can I feel it? Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And all of a sudden, Andy Dalton comes in. It
was the Raiders and and you know, there is a
little bit to be he said to Tampa down a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But he is a man with thirty eight thousand passing
yards for his career. He's no slouch.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But this was I don't sell I'm short. He's a
tremendous slouch. But this was a game in which the
worst team in the NFL and it wasn't close, blows
out the Raiders and Dalton three nineteen and three touchdowns. Right,
Chobe Hubbard runs for one hundred yards. Deontay Johnson had
one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
This was the exact and total opposite of what you
had got in the first two weeks, where it was
getting blood from a stone with Bryce Young at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Okay, now, couldn't hit a basic noack out No, I
mean this is set up a screen or anyhow.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
This shows you that maybe the Panthers are a little
bit better than you think, because here's Andy.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Dalton again, who is inevitable.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Here's Andy Dalton again, who is suddenly just off the
bench going yeah, I'm good, We're good, We're good. Former
QB one, We're good. This division is not that great.
I can roll right through it. I'm feeling great with
no reps anything else. I know what to do with
the football. With all the talk about Bryce Young and
teams calling the Panthers for Bryce Young. Okay, now, what
(23:06):
did I say last week?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Listen, you know you need him to play. At some
point he's gonna have to get back in there. You
have to give him time to calm down and start
seeing the game a little bit differently. We got to
make sure that he's not your guy. You got to
make absolute sure because you went and gave him a
lot to go get him, and he's a number one
overall pick, and you got to make sure this year
if you're gonna move on now, No you don't, because
(23:30):
clearly he's got issues that you're not going to fix.
And if it's true that teams are calling the Panthers
for Bryce Young, trade him right now? Yeah, but I
have to wonder how much right now is real or
a right That's what I'm saying. Hey, tell tell folks
we're not interested in trading him.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
No, no, no, get the word out. Tell people that we've
got a bidding war that's commenced. But I thought you
said you weren't interested. It's just tell people that they're calling.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Phone lines are open. Make sure make sure nobody's on
the bus this line, Bernice. Make sure nobody's on the
business line so it can ring rever.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Why is that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Because this is the thing now, is that it's I
didn't expect Andy Dalton to be terrible, didn't nearly expect
him to be this good. The fact that he was
this good right away tells me that Bryce Young is
completely lost and maybe he's got a future somewhere, but
clearly it's not gonna be with the Panthers. This is
this was such an eye opener that if teams are
(24:27):
actually calling and want Bryce Young, and I believe there
are probably teams that are doing that because hey, we're
not sure about our quarterback situation. Maybe a team like
the Raiders is calling for Bryce Young because look, Minshew's
not really our guy. We do like Aid and O'Connell.
I'm sure there's a few teams that are saying, hey,
maybe he'll play for us this year. Maybe doesn't work
out with quarterback X, he's gonna wind up playing for
(24:49):
us back half of the year. Maybe we have something
in it. Maybe we don't know. Uh So I firmly
believe that. And even though you're not gonna get really
anything for him, you will get more now for him
then you will at the end of the year when
other quarterbacks become available and other quarterbacks show themselves. Throughout
college football season, where teams think no, we like these
(25:12):
four quarterbacks. We're pretty sure we're gonna get one of
them in the draft. There's gonna be much less of
a market for Bryce Young following the season because if
he's a guy that stinks and never sees the field again, Okay,
you're still not going to get anything for him, but
he's gonna be impoted. There won't be any interest in
him at least now. If it's hey third round pick, yes,
you gave up a lot, but here thing take advantage
(25:32):
of the Panthers fans that are so drunk with excitement
after this win. They don't care if you got rid
of Bryce Young right now. They don't care that we
traded up. Don't make a bad decision. Worse, Yeah, we'll
move on. We traded away all those draft picks. I
know it stinks, but at least maybe the Bears aren't
going to go to the super Bowl this year. So
it's okay. If you get an okay package for Bryce Young,
(25:53):
now trade him. Because once the offseason hits and many
other players become available, it's different because it's not like
he's gonna stand out among the other guys that are available,
but he stands out now former first round pick just
a year and a half. Maybe the Panthers ruined him,
maybe they didn't. Maybe he's a curiosity. We can give
up a third round pick, third and a fourth whatever
would be. But in the off season it's gonna be well, yeah,
(26:15):
we're a little bit curious for Bryce Young, but we
like these guys coming out of college. We like these
guys are probably not gonna be And suddenly then it's
we like Sam Darnald coming off this year. Maybe he
doesn't get resigned by the Vikings because they have JJ McCarthy.
We would rather go with Sam Donald. We would rather
go with this guy. There's more opportunity there, there's more
better choices in the offseason. So if they're serious and
(26:36):
they're getting calls right now, yeah, take advantage of the goodwill.
You won a game. You know you're starting over again
to quarterback next year. So it makes no difference what
you do with Bryce Young, because clearly, after what you
saw Sunday, there is really no there's no redemption arc
for Bryce Young in Carolina at this point from any perspective.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Now, since you invoked his name, I'll give you the
thirty second JJ McCarthy story. Of the weekend. A guy
that I do some business with in the card business
back in Illinois, McCarthy randomly showed up at a shop
to buy some cards and all of a sudden they
had some kids hanging out. Oh oh, that's like and
he ended up pulling like some crazy ass one of
one that they then give away. It was pretty cool.
(27:16):
But here he is on crutches and whatever. But the
idea with Bryce Young is now the evaluation becomes where
would you put him into this draft? And the old
quarterback whisperer idea of can we fix him always comes
in right when you're talking about McVeigh shanahan. Go on
down the line. Do you have someone that says, you
know what, I can get the bad habits out of them?
(27:38):
O'Connell bringing up Minnesota for that effect as well. But
you go through the process for Bryce Young. Look, it's
sunk costs. We've talked about this a bunch. That trade's
not getting reversed on appeal to the league or anything else.
It's gonna go down as one of the bad trades,
whether the Bears go to a Super Bowl eventually or not.
(27:58):
It's just a lot for a little in return. And
if you've decided he's not fixable in your system. Dave Canalis,
you know today reiterating that Andy Dalton right now is
number on QB one and gives him the best chance
to win, which is playing is the nose on your
face at this point, but that if he's not a
guy that you can fix, then yeah, you cut bait,
(28:22):
you get back a mid round pick, and you move on.
And if he goes on, you wish him well, and
that means he finds his way. Much like we've talked
about these other quarterbacks in a post Jets world, you're
Geno Smith, Sam Darnold and the like. But for Bryce Young.
You know, I heard Alex Smith talking on it a
little clip making the rounds, just saying, look, he should
(28:45):
have never seen the field a year ago. Well, unfortunately,
as you and I have talked about for years, it's
a microwave society when it comes to drafting a quarterback
that high, even if it logically based on personnel and everything,
you say, yes, he shouldn't see the field, You're gonna
see the field, I'll argue, all blue in the face,
(29:07):
and I have been for years that hey, it's not time.
It's not the space. But you go and you put
him out, and you had a full sample size of
a full season, and then you come back with two games.
Guess what, There was no improvement. In fact, it looked worse,
and he looked skittish and confused. And then that the
number of hits that he took as a rookie sixty
(29:29):
two sacks. Let alone the number of times he got
hit as a ball carrier or hit when releasing the ball.
I mean, there's that's a lot. That's a shell shock
kind of situation going on. Andy Dalton years of experience
might be a stop gap five games starter before he
turns into a pumpkin again. But at least for the moment,
(29:50):
you got a guy that just comes in and executes
an offense. Here's the plan, go execute it and make
some plays, and against a Raiders team which will cron
As we go on a little bit more. That gave
you a no show effort, and Andy Dalton took full
advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
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Speaker 3 (30:12):
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Speaker 2 (30:15):
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Speaker 1 (30:23):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon more on an incredible star turning effort. Monday
Night Football coming up in about ten minutes. But the
biggest story Monday, coming off a week three of the
NFL had to do with the Raiders, because, well, when
you go in and play the Panthers, Panthers making a
(30:44):
quarterback change, they beat you pretty bad. That's a little embarrassing.
But Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce wanted to make sure
people understood there are some things he saw during that
loss to the Red Rifle, because Andy Dalton is inevitable
that he really didn't like.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
No, he didn't. I think as the game went on,
I don't think it was a team it was. I
think there was definitely some individuals that made business decisions
and what make business decisions going forward as well?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You business, Yeah, I'm done, We're getting thumped by the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Man.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Ah, business decisions, Well, they made business decisions.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
You know what, we can make.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Business decisions too, guess what you helped assemble that roster.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Those are your guys, Hey, DeVante Adams.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I'll get you to New York like four weeks earlier
than you think you're gonna get there. Now, look, this
is a big thing. Obviously, there's gonna be changes.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Raiders.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
This is just how they operate, man. And the thing
is is that they have become completely irrelevant. Like for
a long time, there were three teams in the NFL that,
no matter what they did, they had huge interest across
the country. Cowboys, Steelers, Raiders, no matter what, huge interest
(32:04):
across country. When they're really really good most of the
time or the very few times they're bad or in
the middle, doesn't matter. Cowboys, Steelers, Raiders. Well, now that's
two teams. Because the Raiders have become irrelevant. They are
now the latest team I'm putting in sports Stonehenge.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Okay, there, Sports Stone Does this mean you're retiring the
Oakle Alameda County Coliseum? Anything anything with the right look.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Raider image city walk just like Stonehenge where it was
very famous a long time ago, but nobody really remembers
why anybody paid attention. That's kind of where the Raiders
are they still got you to go see it when
you were overseeing. So if I have a sports stone enge,
I had to go see Stonehenge.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And the teams are there.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
To teams were there. There's Brazilian soccer.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Why are you? Why are you putting down little stadium?
There's us all. Look there's a seventy six ers. Look
at all these teams. But like that your card that
you put it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
They have become absolutely irrelevant in the NFL because they
can't get out of their own way. They haven't, there's
no plan, and they've gone from the team everybody loves
to hate, you respect them. Then it was oh, but
look at they're down. I love kicking them while they're down.
And now it's it's not even fun anymore because they can't.
They can't put one foot in front of the other
(33:27):
for more than five seconds.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You see. They have two winning seats, two double digit
win seasons since two thousand and two, going all the
way back to rich Gannon. And I mean they've.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Charlie Garner and they had the one year where it
looked like they were gonna go really far and then
Derek Carr got Home's a great season. They looked like
that would have been the Y twenty sixteen two dubble.
Even the Jets have more double digit wins in the
last twenty years. And then that's how irrelevant The Raiders are.
Absolutely irrelevant, Like the point nobody pays attention, Like making
(34:02):
fun of the Raiders isn't what it used to be.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
None of it. None of it is.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Because there's no hey oh, now they're good to make
the downtime seem sweeter, or hey boy, I really respect
the Raiders. They're fun to talk about. No, they're done.
You don't even make fun of the team anymore. You know,
you go after their fans, but you don't go after
the team anymore.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
They they have, they have fallen off the map of
the end and look out quickly life changes though, right
like a week ago, they beat the Ravens in the
big comeback Gardner Minshews the toast to the town and
everything's coming up Antonio Pierce of, well, okay, they should
have lost that game. Who knows what's gonna happen? And
then Andy Dalton sunned them and sent them right back
into the pits of despair to where Antonio Pierce had
(34:44):
to say that today business.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Decisions, Yeah, we'll make business decision. Where are you gonna
go find reserves? Where are you gonna go find guys
on your practice squad? Those guys aren't out there to
replace the guys that you suddenly don't like. Note there's
no but there's nobody there. There's no one. There's absolutely
no one. And evening O'Connell, What is that the switch
that's gonna spark you? Even if beating the raven Beating
(35:09):
the Ravens last week was boy, the Ravens collapsed. It's
just you're embarrassed to lose to a bottom feeder team.
They're not even interesting bottom feeder anymore. They have become
they're so yeah the White Sox logo. Dude, again, you're
proving more of that point. Why do you think I
said it? Coming up next, a tail of two quarterbacks
(35:32):
coming off a Monday night football. One has just become
a superstar.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
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