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September 25, 2024 40 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss if Jerry Jones is really to blame for the Dallas Cowboys horrible start to the season. The Dan Campbell moving saga takes disturbing twist. Plus, all the latest on Caitlin Clark!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Greetings, Welcome inside a Tuesday. It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. It
weesday Tuesday. It's Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
You woke up, you were all excited. Here we go
Tuesday Day.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
So it was a world beating Tuesday until it wasn't.
It was a world be free beating Tuesday. And then
the day there was no baseball, so there was no baseball. Yes,
we could be close to seeing a record breaking perform

(01:00):
Rman's in Major League Baseball as the White Sox and
the Angels zero zero in the seventh A loss by
the White Sox will give them the most losses in
baseball history. How about that? They would own it in
the record book. But like Bill Pullman liked to say
in Independence Day, we will not coach jensl into that

(01:22):
good night. Oh, they're really going zero zero in the seventh.
There are dozens of fans here in Chicago extremely excited
about it. Now, I will say attendance is pretty good
tonight because there we're gonna lose Game one twenty one.
I want to but we're gonna see a record.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm sure plenty of those folks are asking for a
paper ticket to commemorate the experience. The only thing that's
wrong with it is you're gonna end up setting a
record by losing to the Angels.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, you lost to everybody, that's fine, but they're not
much better than you are. No, I don't know about that. Relative.
I don't know about that. They're gonna lose one hundred
games and they're still gonna be twenty games ahead. It's
pretty so. I mean no, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I did enjoy the fact that the White Sox decided
to screw it. We're just gonna do a random logo
generator as well, so logan o hoppies at the plate
and it's got the Guardian's logo up there instead of
the Angels.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
They're all just done. Everybody's done. Like I don't even
want to be there. You saw the social media there
after the last loss.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, go check major League Baseball dot com for the
MLB dot com for the latest score.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
You talk about difficult days to come to work this
week working for the Chicago White Sox. But you know
it's over. It's just hanging over here.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know what's done. The sort of damacles is there.
It's gonna fall. It's just a matter of which day.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
The only thing I can say to you, it's lucky
that it's not gonna be the Cubs that gives you
the loss. Like that's the thing. Well, you won't be
the Cubs.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
But even then, like they actually had a little bit
of expectations.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
There's a lot of handwringing it, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
So it's like all the disappointment of the Bears start
and Waldron and Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
We should have drafted Daniels. I told you that at
harbaughch have been the coach. There's a million things that
swirling around there.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
But the Cubs are getting their share of derision because
there was actually a bit of expectation that that team
could be good and instead they fall to the wayside.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Again, Yeah, it doesn't matter. Look how bad the White
thoughts that doesn't matter. But in the end, the Cubs
look like the twenty seven Yankees compared to this. Wow,
everybody looks like Yankees. I like that.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
This is a great obfuscation of you of you know,
your Mets losing a very board game, but it becomes
about the White Sox and lost because it'll equipse the
nineteen sixty two Mets, I know. I mean, there's a
little bit of that marvelous Marv goes into this good night.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
That's why I said this was this was a Tuesday.
That's what it is. It's it's a Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Anything went you went no Tuesday? Well, because here I
thought you were gonna start drooling.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Here's the thing if the Mets, you know, the Mets
lost already, So now I'm looking at great, it's a
one game lead, and Chris Saiale is pitching tomorrow unless
there's a hurricane, in which case then who knows when
they're gonna play. So they're looking at being losing the
first two games and needing to win the third to
not really pretty much be eliminated. So all this good
feeling of a whole season, I'm like, ah, great, the
very bit. At least Francisco Lindor was on deck in

(04:08):
the ninth thing's catch it. So it makes me think
that we're gonna see him tomorrow because the Mens are
looking for some kind of karma coming off of this game.
But tell you, man, I've gone from all the excitement. Ready,
let's go to Oh it's doom and gloom. It's it's happening.
I think it's Chris Sale that's happening. The doom and
gloom feelings again, former White Sox piece, long long ago.
It's happening several teams ago, just like twenty twenty two

(04:29):
when the Braves needed to sweep, they did. They need
to sweep, They're going to It's just how it works.
Still have to jet just how it works. Well, that's true,
that's true. You got Josh Hart thrown out of first
pitch for the Yanks, and in two Sundays the Knicks
star playing basketball.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
We're already starting to get the pressers going and everything
goes getting back towards the NBA. So you'll be able
to leave this disappointment of a finish of a season
behind pretty fast.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, here's what I like to do in situations like this.
Pund is no, no pud pud check what I like
to do that. You know, it's funny you say that
because you know, my daughter's playing flag football this fall,
and uh, it's the first time the school has had it.
They're very excited about this. And when you want to punt,
there's no punt, right, You just move the ball like

(05:12):
all the way back to the other team's twenty yards.
There's no punching, right. So the thing is is that
when it gets to me, when they flip it over
to fourth down, you actually the coach has to yell
out what he wants. So so incomplete pass on third down,
the chain flips over to fourth year pud pod because
he's got to yell it to the referee. So the
referee we're punting, punt punt.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Okay, you could have seen Zoe Barren down and someone
waiting to receive the punt.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
She broke the halo violation and later out and she goes,
what what it wasn't me? It wasn't me. I didn't
done fall anybody. I didn't punch.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
You've taught her a couple of victory dances, so she
might dance over the opponent.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
But the best thing to do in situations like this
is always to look at a team that hasn't worked
than you. So I said, what happened today with the
Dallas Cowboys. It's worse than Who's got it? Well, at
least you had no expe.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
No, no, no no. But see, like this is a
long time coming. This is just a culmination of an
entire summer of sadness.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, no, it is, it is. It's but you weren't
happy in the spring either, so I would say it's springing.
I know it was going to be bad. It was
just a matter of how bad. It's like you got
broken up with and she went to the spring dance
with someone else, and then was dating somebody else after
school into the summer, and then came back to school
in the fall. You're dating a third person.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
It's like you read my journal. Yeah that's for my
short story. I shouldn't be adapted by Lifetime television.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
So let's get to the Dallas Cowboys, because boy did
Jerry Jones have a great my fault today from his
weekly appearance on radio in Dallas. So the Cowboys they
win Week one, everything is awesome, and they get boat
raced in week two, and they get boat raced in
week three before come back at the end makes it
look like it was a closer. Look good. But Jerry Jones,

(07:01):
I will give him the nod for this before I
just then tear Jerry Jones apart. I give Jerry Jones
the nod for this because the one and two start,
he was asked, Hey, Jerry, whose fault is this? And
Jerry said it's mine. W FAA TV this morning had
a pull you know, saying who was to blame for
the one and two start? The players in the field, everything.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Seventy percent said that you were the one to blame.
Is that fair?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
That's very fair. That's very fair. That's well known that
no decision is ultimately made there for what I either
have a acquis or prove it. That's very fair. How
could you think otherwise?

Speaker 1 (07:41):
See all right, First of all, he's somehow made and
that's what I love about Jerry Jones. He somehow made
it taking taking responsibility for a bad start, yet still
made it's all about me. Well, he took all that
energy like a super villain. Of course, it's fair, right,
I said, Wait, I didn't know he could do that.
Nobody else man Steven doesn't make decisions. Jerry Junior doesn't
make decisions nobody. I'm just I'm making them all. Yeah,

(08:04):
that's very fair to say. That's my fault. Yep, my fault.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
That guy was waiting for pushback, waiting for Jerry to fight.
It's like, God, damn it, you gave me nothing.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
What's your next question? What's the next one? What do
you got now? There's two big things to take away
from this one. Something different about Jerry Jones. I always like, hey,
what's something different we can say about Jerry Jones and
the Cowboys and the start here. His first thing is
that it really is amazing that Jerry Jones is in
like year thirty of the Cowboys being all about him.

(08:34):
There's no owner in sports. We give the time of
day two more than just for a day or two
days here and there. When there's somehow in the news
for something.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, I mean Arthur Blank got his commemorative cuff and
when dog, when Bryce Young gets bench, David Tepper becomes
a topic for a couple of days.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
But Jerry Jones has made the Cowboys about him. We
talk about the owner. He is the guy man, like
you think about that, We don't talk about any mark.
You been on and off for a long time, but
really not market so. But Jerry, we've made it. He's
found a way to make the biggest, most popular team
in football about him for three decades. I mean, all

(09:14):
the big star players they have had coming through Dallas
and it's been about him. Now here's the other part
of it, okay, is that if you want to sit
here and talk about Blaine, right, Like, what's Tom Cruise's
line from a few good men? Hey, my dad taught
me that winning a trials about a signing blamee. He's
gonna give us our clients. We're gonna give him Kendrick, Right,
you're gonna give me the players. I'm gonna give you
Jerry Jones. If you're looking at the Cowboys underachieving now

(09:39):
for the better part of thirty years. Okay. Now, it's
not like he didn't achieve because he took over the
team and he made a lot of big moves that
were unpopular at the time. But look, he won three
Super Bowls. Right, Hey, Tom Landry had had enough that
not a popular move. Jimmy Johnson comes in, Cowboys have
a dynasty, But Jerry Jones is that player who we

(10:00):
talk about players like this a lot where if you're
if you're looking at him as an owner, who is he?
He's that player who had a lot of success, a
lot of surprising success, really early in his career and
as a result, never understood what he had to do
to keep it going. That's fair, right, Like he's like, like,
you know, you know that, I've heard that a lot

(10:21):
about the career was like Miles Austin. Right when Miles
Austin showed up in Dallas and suddenly he's amazing his
fri It's like, wow, who knew he was this good?
When you have so much success and it's and it's
it's unexpected, right, Because there's guys coming out of school.
I know what I got to do to prepare to
be a star. I get into the league, I know
how to prepare to be a star. I can handle it,
move on. But there's players that when when they get

(10:42):
to the when they get to the league and all
of a sudden, hey, for whatever reason, that first couple
of years, Hey, I got the league. At my I'm
doing whatever I want to do. This is great. Lots
of guys don't know what it takes to sustain that,
and as a result, they never learn. You can't do
things this. You always have to evolve. You always have
to figure out when the defensive backs figure out what

(11:04):
to do. You have to figure out a way when
you start slowing down a little bit. You have to
figure out a better way to get in and out
of your breaks. Whatever it is. But that's who Jerry
Jones and you want to talk about Jerry Jones is
my fault. He's someone that had tremendous amount of success
early and he came in with all his money and
I'm making these unpipe and lose of what happened. He
brings in a great head coach. He's got three Hall
of Famers at quarterback, running back, and wide receiver. And

(11:25):
it was great, right. He had so much success that
early in his career. As an owner, he's not known
how to get past, how to figure things out the
rest of the way, how to build a roster that
can sustain competing over a long period of time. Can't
tell me you can't do it. I watched the Patriots
do it for twenty years, right. I watch the Steelers
do it every year. They are over five hundred they're

(11:45):
in the playoffs. He has never figured it out because
he had so much great success the first few years
that after that, Okay, this is just gonna happen because
I'm the owner of the Cowboys and I can do
whatever I want. But then you can't bring in the
right head coach, and you can't get the quarterback right,
then you can't the rest of the team right. You
start overpaying. And this is almost thirty years of the
Cowboys underachieving. So if you want to break down Jerry Jones,

(12:07):
say it's my fault, it's my fault. Yeah, what we
saw this last year of him not going out and
signing anybody, Yeah, we knew the Cowboys were gonna stink. Oh,
but I'm gonna give DAK and CD money. You had
Dak and CD last year. You need to go out
and get better players. You can't tell me you didn't
have money for Derek Henry. You had money because you
hadn't given any money to Dak or CD Lamb at
that point, you could have given money to Derek Henry.
Don't give me the well, couldn't couldn't afford Derek Henry. So, yeah,

(12:30):
couldn't afford Mark Henry either w W SPO's a guy's
named Henry, can't afford him, couldn't afford Henry Thomas. And
he hadn't done Ey Teason's nineteen eighty three. So that's
that's Jerry Jones's why this is no surprise. He's never
learned how do I sustain that initial success? And instead
this is why the Cowboys are where they are.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well, I mean, Henry Tomas did go on to a
tremendous career as a character actor.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I mean he's shown up in a lot of dramas
through the years.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
But that to say, you know, we talked about Trevor
Lawrence last night, right, he's on the other end of
the spectrum of a star that now it's all right,
what's your next act? Right, Kyler Murray? That was the
you dominated all of these levels. What's your next act?
You brought up the other side of it of unexpected success.
It's like, all right, this seems to be working. How

(13:16):
do I get better? For Jerry Jones, everything he touched
early turned to gold, and he credited himself for all that,
not Jimmy Johnson, not any of the other influences that
he had in terms of building those rosters. It all
became look in the mirror, I'm the guy, and well.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
How he lost Jimmy Johnson went not to play. He said,
I can have Barry Switzer coming and coaching, and that's
what he did.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I guess, But that's the boy, right is It became
all about for thirty years, and every once in a
while Steven locks him in the closet and prevents him
from doing making a move and getting the player that
he really wants, either in the draft or getting on
the phone when they take it away and give him
one of those toy telephones, and like he's not talking
to gms about potential acquisitions. The fact that he made

(14:03):
it about himself like he was a football wizard, and
over thirty years, has never been wise enough to realize
that's the thing. Thirty bleeping years, man, he had a
four year run of dominance. Next years my year, right,
those drafts all worked, all three of those guys, three
of the greatest at their position you've ever seen. Troiitman

(14:23):
gets done nearly enough love for what he did for
that squad, But that's another argument another time. But after that,
at no point, not at after a five year of futility,
a ten year of futility, celebrating, commemorating all of those
teams of yesteryear. When you had the twentieth anniversary of
the first Super Bowl, that should have probably been enough

(14:44):
to tell you, man, I probably want to go back
to the way we did things then.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, done, we were a lot better. Hey, you think
you think Emmic can still run it a little bit?
You think gets off the couch of that commercial it
gets trucks. I know that, I know that Donald Kidd
is sleeping during the games. Maybe emmittt can just run
a couple couple of times, just a couple of times.
This is runner kind of show the young guys how
to do it well.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
At this point, Emmett ain't gonna be much worse than
the run game that Jerry's trotting out there.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
But that's who Jerry jones with unexpected success early and
you never learn how to sustain it. And look what
happens a.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Bunch of yes people around him. Man, someone just gotta
shake him and say, Jerry, Jerry, wake up.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
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Speaker 1 (15:34):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. We are live right now. Yeah, check
us out Fox Sports Radio on Twitter. That should have shaved,
you should have. But that's okay. Now I'm just showing
my age. Yeah, no, it's all right.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I got the big glasses on. I was gonna put
those shiny sunglasses on that are over there, trying to
cover up the circles under my eyes, steal somebody's son. No, no, no,
no no, And then I would disinfect them and leave
them back on our desk.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Because I found out. I found out before the show tonight,
because we're ordering food. We welcome back justin Frostburg after
being out the last couple of weeks, who came back
for time. Look, I'll tell you Frostburg has been out.
He's been trying to procure three or four show hao
Tony home run balls. I don't know how many he's got.
But no, but I got dirt. You got you got
the dirt. Dirt. They're selling dirt at Dodgers Dirt. No, no, no,

(16:33):
the Dodge right now. Dodgers padres Big Series this week
one nothing Dodgers, the Dodgers, And I don't know where
is it in the in the home? Is it at
Chavez Ravine? Are they selling it?

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Like?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Where are they selling this?

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Well?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Where else is Dodgers doing? Okay, Well, I don't know
if they were selling it? There you came. That's the
ground walked on the only place you could sell it.
And this is how they're selling it, dirt from Dodgers,
from from the batter's box, and they're pumping it as
dirt show. HEO Tom walked on this season. It's good
to see that they got on board that walked on.

(17:05):
How great is that?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
No, No, that's had to see a piece of Dodger Stadium,
the ground O Tawny stood on. There it is, it
is about here in his momentous twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Seasons seventy there you go, there you go? How much? Oh,
I don't know, but you know what I would much?
Is that a hundred bucks? A little?

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Because we've seen this done. Tops has done some products.
The opening day it looks.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Like a a disc of homeplate dirt is ninety nine dollars.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I love this, I love this. He deferred all his salary.
Look at how much money they're printing money, they're doing
snow angels in the money. I showed you that the
tops now product, right the fifty to fifty card. They
printed six hundred and fifty three thousand copies of that.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
If this was if this was a movie, you'd be
able to eat the dirt and get super powers.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah yeah. Suddenly, well, you know, like a like a kid,
he shouldn't have eaten the dirt, but he goes to
baseball actice after and he's just launching bombs, going, Oh,
all of a sudden, I can I can understanding eats
his own dirt. No, don't he should? He walked on
the power, I don't know. I don't know. I don't
know how he gets his finger on or something. I
think you gotta be careful.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
You start talking about guys ingesting anything and getting special power.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
That's why I just said if it was a movie.
I said, if it's a movie, if it was a movie,
that would be it. Yeah, would say, get a movie.
And then suddenly I got a yeah, we could do that.
Don't eat dirt. Okay, let me know what. Kids were
healthier when they eat dirt. Don't eat dirt. Okay, no
one eat dirt, no one. Does no one eat any

(18:39):
dirt of any kind? Did you not eat any dirt
as a kid? No, no, you sure no. Did you
eat the yellow snow? Probably? Yeah, I'm sure you did.
Oh it looks like lemon. No no, no, no, put it down,
put it out, put it down, put it down.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Hey, suckers born every minute and sometimes you need hydration.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Don't eat dirt, all right, don't don't No one eatrt
unless it's tiny dirt. Oh no, no one eat dope.
Don dirt. Finally, manicure and choose that dirt Dodger stadium.
That's not done. That's not just any dirt. Don't eat
Where were you yesterday when I bought it? Don't eat? No,
still be if you buy it, that's great, don't eat it.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I it is it like the things that they did
with sea monkeys back in the day at the back
of back.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Wait, here's all you need, here's all you need to know.
Hang it, here's all you need know. Alex tyshert Okay,
is there any protein any sort of benefit from eating dirt? Yeah? No,
come on, yeah, let's go. Here we go.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
The band's back together, dude, Jason, come on a company
called dirt that sells you some of the best dirt
in the world.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
The best damn dirt money can.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Buy, nutrients, amino acids, like, dude, let's go hang on.
If micro gut buy them is a huge thing.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, here's the thing. Here's the thing, here's
the thing to stand on that dirt. You could sureley
would if that was the case. If that was the case,
then how come every move I see? Wait, whether it's
pokes apocalyptic, there's no food anywhere, there's plenty of dirt.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
You just eat dirt, you'd be fine. Right, It's like
a diet. Okay, you can't survive off of dirt. You
just said you had all kinds of It's like going
into Jampa juice. It's the way you described this dirt.
Look at all these enzymes and critical minerals. I go
into jama juice and I see the stuff on the menu.
I go, how am I even alive? You're missing these
critical things? Jason. Oh, I gotta give you. All of

(20:26):
the fruits and vegetables come from dirt, right, Yeah, but
you can't eat then if there would be no such
thing as and and no one get hungry anywhere. It'd
be like, oh, post apocalyptic, how you doing? I got
them a dirt farmer. Oh that's great. What are you doing?
You're being You just said you.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Can do it as a supplementation. Get a pitch, you
could grab one.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, what'd you do? Last night? I listened to that
crazy ass show with Jason and Mike. Yeah, what they
talk about. Jason was telling people not to eat dirt,
but everybody else on the show said to eat it,
eat it. That's the show. Yeah, that was the show. Okay,
that was it. Okay, great, I didn't know that. Being honest,
they really said that. Yeah. No, the guy they were
Jason was the only smart one. He's the only guy

(21:06):
saying don't eat the dirt. Everybody else was saying, eat
the dirt, eat the dirt. Don't eat the dirt, right,
don't eat the dirt? All right? No one know what?
No one eat the dirt, dude, look it up, go
ahead your Google machine. No if because that would be
the case, there would be no hunger. People would be
able to eat dirt.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Jason, you're being extreme. How I can't just eat dirt?
But it's okay to eat dirt.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
To the extreme, a rock of mic like a vandal.
Let it oge you watch the chump like I can
do dance O the DJ say, uh do the dance
figure to do it? You can't go half ass go.
I'd sell it by the gram jealous because I'm out
getting mine. Jay with the gage of Vannila with the
nine Uh. They said as a kid, Jason, God made
dirt and dirt don't hurt. It's true. It's okay if
you get stuff dirty and eat it. I've never heard

(21:44):
that phrase. What I've never heard God made dirt and
and don't hurt. I've never If you drop food or something,
pick it up you all right, that's not You could do.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
It like they like, you're shooting free throws and you
can do the ten count all right, right, there's the arm,
it's up.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Could you ingest three and not die? But that's a
different thing than eating dirt. No, no, no, he wasn't saying
you go on an all dirt dying. He just said
there's all kinds of there is. But you can't live
on dirt atle You can't live on dirt at all.
You can't live on dirt at all. You can't live
off of one singular thing at all and lives the

(22:18):
amount of years of college the three of you have had.
This is I know, I'm trying to damn wizard. We're
trying to learn you. No one eat dirt. Please, don't
eat dirt. This is what happens, by the way, when
you eat dirt. Ready, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
This chick over here, is there your girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
You should see that girl, friends yourself. Welcome back Justin, Yeah,
Justin Frostburg is back. Everybody, Jay frost is back. Dirt Sure,
No Joe dirty Joe, Dirte Dirte. Now, hey, the White
Socks are losing now, yes, we could be on the

(22:55):
cusp of baseball history. Isaac Low and Cron will have
more with what's trending coming up in a few minutes.
But crazy story out of the ENFL crazier than eating dirt.
Don't eat dirt, Dan Campbell, we talked about this last week.
Story comes out. Lion's head coach says, Hey, we had
to move because too many people knew where he lived
in Detroit and getting too much unwanted attention. So we

(23:18):
had to move. Very upset every too many people knew
where he lived, so he moved. We talked to Jay
Glazer about this last Thursday was Oh, dude, I'm telling you,
dude was getting docksed all last year. After the playoff game,
there were people showing up at his house to give
estimates for things. People called and said, yes, I'm Dan Campbell,
come to my house and I want an estimate on this.
And people kept showing up at his house and he

(23:40):
had to move and it was a crazy story. Well
now Dan Campbell gave us a little bit more details
on it today. Is that the big thing that pushed
them to move was that he got docked by one
of his daughter's classmates in school. Following the NFC Championship game,
after the Lions loss to the forty nine ers, one
of the kids put Dan Campbell's address on social media

(24:02):
with the with the caption you shouldn't have been going
for it like all the fourth down that they're going
for it. So now people knew where he lived and
people were showing up at the house and Dan Campbell
when when this happened the first time, he wasn't home
and his daughter was calling him saying, hey, what's going on.
They had to flick the lights to make sure people
driving by knew that someone was home, so he had
to move. He had to you know, he had to

(24:24):
move because of this. And you know, look, but I
agree they shouldn't have gone for it on fourth down
as much as they did. We talked about that, but
this is no, you can't go okay, no matter what
you think about them going for it on fourth down.
Don't dos anything, don't eat dirt, don't dogs anybody. These
are the lessons we're teaching tonight on the show. Uh,

(24:46):
this is and we talk about there are trappings of
fame and and the biggest thing that I don't think
people take into account is the fact that you give
up so much privacy when you do some thing creative
or in the public eye for a living. And no
one understands how tough that is, because, yeah, is it

(25:06):
a great light to dan Kell, will make a lot
of money. Yeah. Does he live in a big house. Yeah?
Does he love his life, love being coach of the lines. Yeah,
there's so many great things. But every second of every
day you have zero privacy. You have zero privacy at
work because even though he's at work coaching the Lions,
when he walks by, does he walked by a sales
office and walk by a couple of interns. You just

(25:27):
want to come up and talk to him and say, hey, hey, coach,
how you doing all this? When maybe you just want
five minutes to yourself. And then you magnify that by
he can't go out to the grocery store and buy food.
He can't do that and people recognize him within two
seconds have been walking into a store. He can't go
to the mall and buy any clothes right. He can't
go out to run to run to the store for
an errand for his wife or his kids without having

(25:50):
to worry about I'm gonna get here and someone's gonna
stop me in line and say something. And maybe it's
someone who's upset that we go for it on fourth
down when we really shouldn't have. He has absolutely zero
privacy going out to dinner. How hard is it you
have to take so many safeguards going out to dinner
because you don't want people coming up to your table going, hey, hey, coach,
how you do it? Boys shouldn't have gone for it

(26:10):
those couple of times on fourth down. Man, you're throwing
the ball to your number four receiver in the NFC
Championship game on the road. It's different from going forward
Week ten against the Bears at home. There's a lot
of pressure going on here, Like he's every single minute
of the day when when a star goes out, whether
it's a football coach or an athlete, or an actor
or whoever it is, or a singer, absolutely zero privacy.

(26:30):
You can't go brows in a bookstore. You can't do
any of this. And that's the biggest trapping of fame
that I don't think people understand that this is what
you give up, and that's a lot to give up.
Privacy is a lot to go up, especially when when
most times, as you get older, you want to have
time to yourself. You want to be able to do
things like that. You want me to go visit a
Now he can't go visit a national park without someone
yelling across to him from a glacier. Hey, why'd you

(26:53):
go for it on fourth down? Twice? I mean twice, coach,
I mean there's no privacy.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I once had a listener find me as I went
to a rest stop international park.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Aren't you like?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
My kids and my then wife were terrified. Nice as
could be regular listening, But you have no idea? Yeah
you are, like, yeah, we were.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I'm just a guy, you know, face in the crowd,
man wearing a shirt with your picture on it said
I'm Mike Harmon. No.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, but even so it was my car pulled over.
Dude is behind me? No idea? Okay, I mean flattered
that someone you knew, who the hell like? Yeah, so
that it became this.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Was it a purple car? No? Oh did it say
they have Northwestern bumper stickers? No it did not.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
I had no identifiers that I was at. No Fox
Sports Radio logo. You playing the Super Bowl Shuffle really
loud in the car? It might have been on the playlist,
but I mean it wouldn't have been that loud. I mean,
I don't have the external Blues Brothers speakers tonight, only
the Blues Brothers review.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
To cause any trouble here, to do the oh hi,
how you doing hey?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
But I mean, how many guys if we talked to
that that have worked here at Fox Sports Radio, even
our offensive lineman bre Brethren, who said, look, we had
parties where we would get streamers from the movie studios
and they built little movie theaters in their homes. And
would cater parties because they couldn't.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Go to the mall.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Okay, right, and that's not a list star, that's one
to fifty three, right, So all all of that's certainly true,
and you have to decide where that trade off is now.
The thing that I wonder going forward, and this is
all terrible, right, it's absolutely awful for Dan Campbell and
his family and whoever. That classmate was just a just

(28:42):
a horrible being. But they're gonna figure out where he
lives next. Right, That's not going to stop, is the thing.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I can't imagine that there's not any town, USA, college
pro whatever where people in that neighborhood don't know, Hey,
that's coach's house.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, but this is if you're living in a gated community,
getting in is harder. It's why something like that. I
thought he lived at Applebee's. Pretty good ads though Applebee's
him and Helkgan hanging out doing commercially saying that, right.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
The put up the call, never see it coming.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Maybe he's got to walk out like that and people
wouldn't know it was him, although you would know it
was in because he's got the thing over his face,
So you think it was a disguise because he's covering
his face with a play sheet. But instead people would
then say, oh, I know those eyes in the place.
You have two options from the stands, though. You can
go classic Lions fan with the.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Bag, or you can go Lucidor mask, which we see
now and again all right, all right with Lions because
he's also got the body to be a luci Door.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Very nice, not bad? Uh, Now to a man who
wears a lucha door mask to work at least three
days a week, there's no question about it. It's Isaac
Lohenkron with what's trending?

Speaker 8 (29:53):
Yeah, a little makeshift tonight, don't you think I see.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
How he actually has his hands over his eye like
he's wearing a Lucidor mask. Hey, he's committing to the bit.

Speaker 8 (30:04):
Sure, probably should have wondered how I'm going to run
down the important major league scoreboard wearing this arm luchador mask.
Let me just peel it off and cut my losses.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Here there was no baseball tonight. It's fine. Just go
right to the WNBA playoffs.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Right to the playoffs, spoken like a true met fan
on the night of a loss. Sorry, right to the
WNBA playoffs, indeed right to the playoffs. Yes, how about
how about that New York Liberty advancing to the next round. Well,
we do start with ongoing a Major League Baseball activity.
We start at Dodgers Stadium with the Padres and Dodgers battling.

(30:40):
The Dodgers lead them by just three games for first
place in the National League West, and right now San Diego,
on a two run home run by Jake Croninworth, has
a two to one lead over the Dodgers as they
go to the bottom half of the second inning. The
Los Angeles Angels holding a two to one lead over
the White Sox in Chicago, bottom of the eighth ining,

(31:01):
with one out, the White Sox have the tying run
at second, potential go ahead run at first. Of course,
the stakes for this game the White Sox for the
record of thirty six and one hundred twenty. If they lose,
they will surpass the nineteen sixty two New York Mets,
who were forty and one twenty when they called the
Polo Grounds home. The Baltimore Orioles devita the Yankees five

(31:23):
to three despite Aaron judges fifty six home run Yankees
missed a chance to clinch the American League East. However,
the Twins four to one loss to the Marlins has
clinched a postseason Berth incidentalie for Baltimore. The Cleveland Guardians
over the Cincinnati Reds six to one, clenching a first
round by and home field advantage in the American League

(31:44):
Division Series.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
In the NBA.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
The Athletic reporting this evening, Los Angeles Clippers forward Kawhi
Leonard underwent a procedure on his knee during the off season,
and at the outset of training camp he will be
limited to strengthening his knee. Finally, Jason Mike the NFL
just announcing that Los Angeles Chargers safety Derwin James's one
game suspension has been upheld upon appeal, so he will indeed,

(32:09):
as expected, miss Sunday's game against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Back do you guys? Thank you ilo Hey. Right after
the show, our podcast is going to be going up
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(32:34):
after wee get off the air. Coming up next. You
always say this to me, Mike Carmon, all the great
advice I have had against the number this year now
ten and two on my upsets. Yeah, yeah, I really
may take my own advice for a game tomorrow night.
And I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. Coming up
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten p m. Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon live from the tire rack dot Com Studios.
And you always say, oh yo, Jason, all your advice,
Oh where are you? Do you go to Vegas? Did
you bet it? Did you bet it? Yeah? And I'm like, okay,
look if I you know, I can't get caught up
in my own product here. I mean, I don't know

(33:23):
if I'd wind up getting too close. But there is
some action that I'm thinking about for tomorrow night, for
tomorrow night. Yes, I'm thinking about individual individual overs. For
one very specific player after today and it's Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
All right, Oh okay, I thought you were already looking
ahead to Thursday night. Thought you thought it was under
for the Giants under under. No see, I'm going to
take some of those over. Well, we'll conflict on that tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Today there was a lot of talk about the foul
that gave her a black eye on Sunday, with Dja
Carrington hitting her in the eye in the first game
Connecticut beats Indiana. Indiana's got a win tomorrow night to
keep their season going. And the more you look at
the video, yeah, the play was dirty. Right the way
she moves her hand to hit Caitlyn Clark. No one

(34:15):
tries to block a shot like that, No one. No
one followed through and follows through with her hand. Now
what was she doing? Was she trying? Was this somewhere
I hate Caitlyn Clark and I'm gonna do this? Or
was this a kind of hey like Bruce Bowen would
put his foot out so when you were taking a
jumper you came down, you would sprain your ankle if
you landed on his foot, right, That's kind of what
I took it as as a hey, playoff game. Here's

(34:38):
something if I bop you in the face a little bit,
I'll hit you in the in the forehead. Maybe that
sends a little bit of message, gets you off your game.
And I know she she did it on purpose because
you saw a video of her and her teammate celebrating
it later on in the game, so you know she
was trying to do that. Now, her intention of did
she want to injure her? Does she hate Caitlyn Clark?
Is she jealous of her? Like that's that's that's the question.

(34:58):
But there's no doubt she wanted to try to send
a message there with with a dirty play, and so
that's what it was. But after seeing how they have
both responded, Okay, Carrington interviewed by Christine Brennan and she
basically seemed disinterested. So now now you know that that
she's that she was okay with what she did, because
usually if you poke somebody in the eye, there's a

(35:19):
little bit of Hey didn't mean to do that. We're
you know, we're out here competing. But in the end,
I don't want to I don't wantnybody to lose their eye. Hey,
it was just unfortunate, but she just seemed disinterested in
any of that line of questionings. So that tells me
in seeing her answer today, Yeah, she knows what she
did and she's okay with however whatever comes out there.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
I mean it's also a I mean, no fall was
was registered. No you know, basketball yellow card or warning
or anything of that, and it just kind of got
dismissed along the way, not to mention.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Caitlin Clark then went on to shoot what two of thirteen?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Right, so she has a terrible night shooting whatever, But
just the responses and for Christine Brennan to ask the
questions is point out as she did. Like that's the
other thing, Like she didn't dance around it. She just
went straight.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Hey that she said it looked like you guys were
celebrating it after.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, no, I don't know, like would know about it
to have celebrated it.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Whatever else did pretty sure? So your teammate do the
fingers into your forehead and you both laughed about it.
So yeah, I know they're three fans. Hey remember that episode?
Hey mo, okay quite do quite noumb skulls I'm broadcasting,
So seeing Dja Carrington's response today, okay, I get she
knows what she was doing. She knew what she was doing,

(36:31):
and Caitlyn Clark got off her game. She had a
horrible game. Caitlyn Clark today went out of her way
to say, hey, just basketball. I don't know what you said,
look at the replay. And Caitlyn Clark smart enough, She's
very self aware. So when she says look at the replay,
look at the replay, is she saying look at the
replay to say, hey, nothing wrong, or she's saying, hey,
nothing wrong, look at the replay as if to say,

(36:52):
if you look at it, you'll see that it was
a dirty place. Do you win through my black and
blue eye? Yeah? So she looked better today. Her eye
looked a lot better. She said, listen, everything is fine.
I'm good to go for tomorrow. It was not a
dirty play, not a dirty play. Both of them know
what the play was. Okay, both of them know what
the play was. And Caitlyn Clark is no one. If

(37:13):
not okay, you want to you want to give me
a little something, I got something special for you. I
would go over on every offensive prop for her tomorrow
night over for everything, points, assists, rebounds. She is someone
we have seen that in her life and again for
entertainment purposes only. She is someone we have seen throughout

(37:34):
her life, throughout her basketball life. When there's a big
challenge in front of something happens, she rises to that occasion.
This is the biggest challenge of her professional life so
far with the Fever. It's one game or go home.
You think she gonna have another game where she doesn't
score in the first half, or is she gonna have
a sixteen point first half? And is she gonna have
five threes in the first half. I would go every

(37:55):
single Caitlyn Clark prop Tomorrow. Yeah, I see her tomorrow
having one of those incredible games. Now, does it result
in a win? Probably? They probably. You know, Connecticut is good,
but they're not great. They're not overwhelmingly big. They knew
what to do in Game one. Now the Fever learned
a lot. Fever have some really good players too that
have really come on over the course of the past
month or so. But yeah, give me Caitlin Clark to

(38:16):
have a huge game across the board tomorrow night. Okay,
you want to throw that first punch at me metaphorically,
I'm gonna throw the last punch. And now you see
what this is like tomorrow, and then we're gonna go
back to Indiana on Friday and then see if you
can win the series or if we have insane fans
that are spending thousands of dollars tickets to come in
to see me and us play, Let's see if you

(38:37):
can close us out on Friday night. I would take
every overproper katelink.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, I'm trying to find tomorrow's I can only find
listings for games that you.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Could put the over prop at forty and I would
take frid take over for her. She's gonna have that
kind of night.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Come out and with the explosiveness and clearly the I
being healed, maybe a little you know, don't just pick
the one in the middle kind of philosophy. Then sometimes
you get to you've got an injury of that ILK.
But yeah, it was a game clearly after that because
that was early. I mean that's five minutes into the
game that that injury occurs. Uh, and then her shooting

(39:11):
is just off for the rest of the night. So yeah,
aggressiveness out the jump, she'll live at the free throw line,
can bank on that might get called for a technical
along the way, but it's a playoffs, it's reset. M
teammates can only hold her back so much if there's
another similar play because remember, you know, the perpetrator of
the act had also been doing a little chirping during
the regular season. So it's not an isolated incident, right,

(39:34):
It's like a physical from the physical side, it was,
but there had already been some precipitated.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Banter. Yeah. Yeah, Carrington disagreed with a couple of things
around Caitlyn Clark. So there's you know, let's see tomorrow night.
Let's let's see how things go tomorrow night. I'm telling
you we'll find some actual numbers. I feel better about
Kaitlyn Clark than the Mets tomorrow night against Chris I
look at you coming up next. Another great and quarterback

(40:01):
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