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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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we got two Monday night games. It's just a bridge. Eventually,
it's a gateway. Event You already get to three four
Monday night games at one. Yeah, neither of them are
any good experience. You're gonna get. Well, wait a minute,
the Commanders Michels is a little closer. There's more time left.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It is a little bit more in doubt than the
bills were. A little bit more. I like that, sell
sell sell, you know. Uh look all yeah, two many
night games to night pretty soon next year. Hey, we're
gonna have three games, four games pretty soon. We're gonna
have one game Sunday early, one game Sunday late than like,
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four games Sunday night, four games Monday night, four games
Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Like, that's that's what it's gonna be. Eventually, We're just
gonna you're one game, one local game Sunday in each
of the windows.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That's how we're gonna I'm gonna open an electronics store
and I'm gonna have really great sales on flat screens.
Let's go. You can do that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Four games, four games on Thursday, four games on Monday. Right,
that's eight four games Sunday night, that's twelve. Now for
the week's there's no body you have to have four
other games. So okay, two games and two games late now,
don't give you a choice, right now, Okay, I.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Kinda like you still have options. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
two on Sunday each windows. Sunday, fourth Sunday night, Monday
is good innovators, there's your NFL ficture. Right, let's go
right now, where do we sit? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Five and a half to go in the third quarter,
the Commanders have a twenty eight to thirteen lead over
the Bengals. Bengals trying to avoid an zero to three start.
Jade Daniels has look good, The Commander's offense has look good.
But still some time left here, still a quarter and
a half. Bengals do have the football and they are moving. Meanwhile,
a game that I think I want to say, the
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referees absolutely screwed the Jaguars in this game.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
They screwed the Jaguars. Screw the jagar Ow did they
screw the Jaguars right when they said captains come to
midfield for the coin toss. That completely screwed because they
had to start the game. Wow, that completely shrew Right
when those referees said it's time to kick off, that
screwed the Jaguars. Thirty seven to ten right now, thirty
seven in a row. The Bills lead the Jaguars early
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in the fourth quarter. Josh Allen having a huge game.
He's got four touchdowns. James Cook having a big game,
Dalton Concaid having a big game. And let me just
say this. We have a big conversation quarterback wise you
get into But let me say this because I think
I may be really far out on this limit. I
want you to talk me back from here. Go ahead,
because I may be out there, may be out there.
Oh wow, Jason, you're crazy. I may be out there.
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You mean you're coming out where I made my super
Maybe out there. I may be out there with you.
I may be out there, may be out there. Okay,
maybe I'm gonna say one hundred percent. Maybe maybe maybe
not maybe maybe maybe maybe not me. It's a lot
of maybe. Maybe. You know, we celebrated the fourteenth anniversar.
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You're at thirteenth anniversary and call me. Maybe just the
other day you get to take a few bars while
you're maybe men but the wish in the well. Maybe
maybe the bills don't miss the funding. No, maybe maybe
not Sho missed out. I know I'm out there. I'm
out there. Really, I mean you're going. Maybe they don't
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miss the fund maybe. I mean, look, now people are
gonna hate me follow my goodness, but maybe maybe they
don't miss him. Wow, maybe you're out on that high
wak maybe he was the issue. Maybe maybe they won't
flying Grayson, maybe not. Maybe things are gonna be okay
for the Bills as they seemed to a three and
oh start, and after a couple of games, suddenly the
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offense looks even better than it did a year ago.
Look when you see the Bills, they were definitely an
either way team coming into the season. Right.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
They talked really confident about how much they were going
to be good, and Josh Allen talked about the confidence
he had with the guys on the team. And this
shows you just how good a quarterback Josh Allen is.
He's making it work with everybody tonight. This is the
big Hey, Josh Allen can do no wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Right. It's got the touchdown pass to James Cook. Should
have two to James Cook. He's got one to Shakir,
He's got one to Ty Johnson, he's got one to
Keyon Coleman. He's got the one to Kincaide. Andre Reid
has caught one. So you going on, Yeah, but they
talked a big don't worry, We're good. It's okay. Let's see,
because you really, who do you have to stop on offense?
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Turns out you have to stop everyone. And the Bills
knew what they were talking about early on, and you
thought this was gonna be a reset year for the Bills,
second half of Josh Allen's career, and instead we're just
as good as anybody. Maybe we're the best team in
the AFC right now. We have a running game that's
going to run people over. I can, I can distribute
the football around. It doesn't have to be one guy
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all the time. We have we're deep. Look, Shakira is
running all over the field tonight. Right. Kincaid is a
huge weapon. Maybe he's the new Travis Kelce. Coleman's the
first round pick. It's only called one pass, but it's
a twenty eight yard touchdown. He's got a lot of skills.
Maybe they don't miss thefon Diggs and having to make
sure that hey, if we go a possession, he doesn't
see the ball. I have to jam one into him
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and we waste it down because he's not open. Right,
So maybe this was this was something that they knew
and they talked about. They told us we just, okay,
do we want to listen? But this is a new
Bills offense, and clearly they do not miss the fon Digs,
and maybe it's even better than it was when they
had him. Tried to play trust games here with the
idea that Digs had found his way out of Minnesota,
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had a lot of opportunity and even with the Bills, right,
a lot of opportunities on a game to game basis,
you're talking targets for days. I have to force feed
this guy the ball, which means I'm putting it into
harm's way oftentimes, right, that's the tradeoff with sometimes having
the number one receiver that really needs to fit the bill.
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They did really well yesterday against Minnesota, by the way,
but we'll get to that in due time. It was
a good Jersey exchange. That was the highlight of his
day in that one. But Starck Hockey Stefan Diggs, of course,
but for Joe Brady, the OC for Josh Allen. I
think it quiets a lot of folks, at least through
a couple of weeks that you know, have still been
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am out on Josh Allen. How many years do you
need to see it before you finally believe a little
bit this not Deon Sanders mid September last year. Do
you believe after two games, not after two games. We're
talking several years of well Digs made. Look, Diggs made
the offense go for a long time until it became
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too much. I need the ball right And in the
second half of the season they downplayed and downgraded what
they did with him. Offense still moved, offense still worked,
and you know they lose Gave Davis as well, So
you lost two guys that were sure handed receivers for him.
But you did have Khalil Shaker, who you referenced before
and all off season. You know, his stat was the
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offense the efficiency that he and Allen had connected on
last year, it was the target reception count was ridiculous
in terms of that ratio. So you have that Kincaid
we expected greatness from and you still have you know,
your your other tight end. You still have Ray Davis
who you drafted to work alongside James Cook. So you've
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got better balance Defensively. They're gonna have maybe some questions
along the way because they've had attrition at the linebacking
position all already and in the back seven.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Not that it mattered today. Well, look, and that gets
into a bigger point. The Jason Smiths are with Mike
Carmen Live from the diirec dot Com studios. We've told
you for a long time, right when he signed that
big contract extension, right, red light, red light, red light,
Trevor Lawrence is just a guy and you can't put
the whole game tonight on him because clearly, look, the
defense is getting pushed around. But we've seen enough of
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Trevor Lawrence to know that he's not great. And we
told you this, hey after three years when he signed
that big contract, right, I put it up on Twitter. Hey,
remember we said danger red light. You paid the guy
because you drafted him number one overall. He had the
one good year, not a great year, but he had
the one good year with the big playoff comeback because
he threw four picks in the first half. But you're
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paying them because he was a study Clemson. He was
a generational quarterback and he had that one season with
the big playoff win. So you have stars in your eyes.
We got to keep this guy. When Trevor Lawrence honestly
is a league average quarterback, that's kind of what he is.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
He is at best. At best, could he be a
top fifteen quarterback and really be on the other side
of that. Yeah, but he may. And it's not that
he's terrible. It's that you paid him because you found
because you want to believe you have a star quarterback
and you don't. He's just he turns the ball over
way too much. He overthrows receivers still and for someone
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who and I read something really great about him earlier
today where where one of the one of the big
and one of those unnamed NFC uh insiders said, look,
Trevor Lawrence looks to me like a guy I've succeeded
doing everything at every aspect of my life in football,
and now I still think I can do stuff that
I've succeeded on my whole life, and I can't anymore.
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I mean, this is the argument we had with Kyler
Murray just year.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But that's but everybody, and that's not it. That's not
an uncommon thing many quarterbacks. Hey I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
So one of you, the kid who's the top dog
at a school in a small town that goes to
a big college and realize, wait, there's other smart people here. Wow,
look at this. Really no more than I do. The
Winklevi twins are just so the thing is everybody else adjusts. Okay,
what can I do because this is now year four
in the league for him. Okay, this is a second coach.
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They have given him playmakers all the way through the
running backs. He having him wide receivers. And he's not terrible.
He's just a league average quarterback. And you're seeing that
he doesn't elevate the team. He doesn't elevate the guys
around him. Sometimes he'll make really good throws, and sometimes
it's what the hell kind of throw is that? And
and this is the danger. Yes, life is miserable in
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the NFL without a quarterback. I look, hey, I'm a
check fanily quarter weeks that you're finally recognizing a quarterback.
I'm still I like my guy. I need the rest
to work around him. But it's also miserable when you
pay a quarterback and he's not that good, sure, because
he's not going to lift you anywhere like this is
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this is this is not just hey, we got a
small sample size. This is now nearly a quarter of
the way into his fourth year in the NFL, and
he's he's just a god. It's also an indictment on
Doug Peterson at this point that he hasn't in a
year and a half and another full offseason, been able
to elevate him, to get him out of his own way.
I mean, what is it six straight games coming into
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tonight with a completion percentage under sixty percent in today's NFL.
That's unconscionable, right, I mean that that is late seventies eighties,
when it was we're just chucking the ball downfield and
trying to get something to happen. Nowadays that you use
your tight ends and running backs out of the backfield
to where if you're not at sixty three to sixty
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four percent as a starter, as you know, just to
start the discussion, then you don't get to keep your job.
Now he gets paid, you said, because if you don't
have a quarterback in this league, you lose, right, you
don't have anything. And so now he's what fourth or
fifth on average annual value? How many more guys are
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coming up next? Because he's going to be like twelve
before long.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, this is also the track that pisses off the
other owners, going, Okay, I get paying, Burrow, I get paid.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Starts it right, But this is a new one. Right,
every couple of years, there's the one that whoa, whoa.
I get that you like Trevor Lawrence, but this guy's
not doesn't deserve to be in the top three paid
quarter got him and Daniel Jones that you have you
look at and just go, wait, what do we do?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
He didn't reset the market and teams they fall in
love with the fact that things could be worse. Right,
It's like relationships, when why are you guys still dating? Well,
if we don't, if we break up, things can always
be worse. If I'm I don't know why I don't
want to be single. You know, I get that this
we're not both incredibly happy, but we might not be
as happy if.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
We're a part. And I'm kind of afraid of the unknown.
And that's what teams do.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Boy, we have a guy that's a little bit better
than what we've had, but is he really great? Can
we really win?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Hmmm?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm kind of nervous. That's why the Giants paid Daniel Jones. God,
what would life be like if we didn't have all? Right,
let's pay Daniel Jones. Okay, let's let's now pay Trevor Lawrence. Okay,
you're seeing what life is like. You're owing three, right,
you're you're gonna be you're oh, you're gonna be owing
three and it's gonna be where's our franchise quarterback? Why
do we stink so much? And this is gonna be
the night. We've been telling you for months that Trevor
Lawrence is just a guy, and now this is where
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the conversation amps up and oh, hey, you know, Jason
and Mike were right and they've been telling us that
this is where because when you when you fail like
this on a Monday night, it's a much bigger deal.
And this is where you're gonna start seeing the the Hey,
wait a minute, Trevor Lawrence is not great. Bend Wedgon
can just take off like a rocket.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, because last year you could look at the second
half of the season and he played through some injuries
that maybe he shouldn't have, right, But that's when you're
gonna be the franchise guy. Yeah, you kind of have
to do those things and once you're in between the
white lines, we don't really care, right, we don't really care.
Just can you give it? Okay? His first year was
urban Meyer. That's a loss year, Okay, I get it.
Second night was a little bit better, Okay, third year
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was injury are but the expectation, how long are you
do that? That's the thing, the expectation after what went
on last year because they got a break right because
Philadelphia was such a dumpster fire everything that happened the
second half of the year, unless you were actually in
Jacksonville or US, you didn't pay attention to it. And
we watched it unfold and he kept getting up and
getting back on the field, which is great, showing great
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heart determination. The expectation with another year of the off
season with Doug Peterson that this was going to click.
They bring in new receivers, Christian Kirk's healthy etn that
fumble is going to be a play. That game against
Miami to open the season might be the thing that
keeps it from ever actually finding the rails. You know,
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like you're on a ride at an amusement park and
then all of a sudden you stop and the song
just keeps playing around because someone got knocked off the tracks,
like are we going again? We city, Okay, we'll sit here,
we'll sit here, and we expect you to be moving again,
And yeah, that may never get them back on the
damn rails. That fumble and the subsequent come back by
the Dolphins in Week one.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
There's two quarterbacks getting paid like franchise quarterbacks on the
field tonight in Buffalo. One of them absolutely deserves it.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You can see. You could see the difference. Josh Allen
was drafted, came up franchise quarterback, Yes, he's proved it.
Trevor Lawrence is not and getting paid like that. I really,
if you don't need to see anything more, if you're
an NFL fan and go boy, I see two guys
here getting paid all kinds of money to be franchise guys,
and one of them is and one is just a
guy really that you don't need any more. Whatever you
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disagree about that, you can't disagree when you see what's
going on in your television. Anybody find any video games
or anything he does so they can denigrate his effort
and his love of craft. You also might just say, hey,
I want to be that guy because I can fail
and it's the checks still get to sure, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I still got my signing. Lots of guys though, lots
of guys. You can say that about lots of guys
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that aren't doing well getting paid well well, we'll bring
out that laundry list later on in the show. Here.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (16:01):
A Tuesday, it's Tuesday. It's Tuesday, Tuesday, It's Tuesday. You
woke up, you were all excited. Here we go Tuesday.
So it was a world beating Tuesday until it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It was a world be free beating Tuesday. And then
the day there was no baseball, there was no base
there was no base was that on? Yes, we could
be close to seeing a record breaking performance in Major
League Baseball as the White Sox and the Angels zero
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zero in the seventh. A loss by the White Sox
would give them the most losses in baseball history.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
They would own it in the record book. But, like
Bill Pullman liked to say in Independence Day, we.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Will not co jentsle into that good night. Oh there
really going zero zero in the seventh.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
There are dozens of fans here in Chicago extremely excited
about it. Now I will say attendance is pretty good
tonight because there we're gonna lose Game one twenty one
I want to be.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
We're gonna see a record. I'm sure plenty of those
folks are asking for a paper ticket to commemorate the experience.
The only thing that's wrong with it is you're gonna
end up setting a record by losing to the Angels.
Well you lost everybody. No, No, that's fine, but it's
a they're not much better than you are.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
No, I don't know about that relative. I don't know
about that. They're gonna lose a hundred games and they're
still gonna be twenty games ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Of the pretty White Sox. I mean that's I mean no,
I don't know that you can. I did enjoy the
fact that the White Sox decided to ask screw it,
We're just gonna do a random logo generator as well.
So logan o hoppies at the plate and it's got
the Guardian's logo up there instead of the Angels.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
They're all just done. Everybody's done. Like I don't even
want to be there.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
You saw the social media there after the last loss. Yeah,
go check major League Baseball dot com for the MLB
dot com for the latest score.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You talk about difficult days to come to work this
week working for the Chicago White sow.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But you know it's over. It's just hanging over here.
You know what's done. The sort of damacles is there.
It's gonna fall. It's just a matter of which day.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
The only thing I can say to you, it's lucky
that it's not gonna be the Cubs that gives you
the loss, Like that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well, you won't be the Cubs. But even then, like
they actually had a little bit of expectations. There's a
lot of handwringing it it doesn't matter. So it's like
all the disappointment of the Bears start and Waldron and
Caleb Williams. We should have drafted Daniels. I told you that,
and Harbaugh should have been the coach. There's a million
things that swirling around there. But the Cubs are getting
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their share of derision because there was actually a bit
of expectation that that team could be good yea, and
instead they fall to the wayside. Again, Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Look how bad the White though, it doesn't matter. But
in the end, the Cubs look like the twenty seven
Yankees compared to this. Wow, everybody looks like twenty seven Yankees.
I like that this is a great obfuscation of you
of you know, your Mets losing a gamble, but it
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becomes about the White Sox and lost twice because it
all eclipse to nineteen sixty two Mets, I know. I mean,
there's a little bit of that marvelous Marv goes into
this good night. That's why I said this was this
was a Tuesday. That's what it is. It's it's a
Tuesday to anything, as you would know, it's a Tuesday. Well,
because here I thought you were going to start drooling.
Here's the thing if the Mets.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
You know, the Mets lost already, So now I'm looking
at great, it's a one game lead, and Chris Sale
is pitching tomorrow unless there's a hurricane, in which case
then who knows when they're going to play. So they're
looking at being losing the first two games and needing
to win the third to not really pretty much be eliminated.
So all this good feeling of the whole season, I'm like, ah, great,
the very bit. At least Francisco Lindor was on deck
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in the ninth thing that's got sh it. So it
makes me think that we're going to see him tomorrow
because the Mets are looking for some kind of karma
coming off of this game. But tell you, man, I've
gone from all the excitement. Ready, let's go to Oh
it's doom and gloom. It's it's happening.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I think it's Chris Sale that's happy. The doom and
gloom feelings again, former White Sox piece, long long ago.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
It's happening several teams ago, just like twenty two when
the Braves needed to sweep, they did. They need to sweep,
They're going to it's just how it works.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
They still have the jet. Just how it works. Well,
that's true, that's true. You got Josh Hart thrown out
of first pitch for the Yanks, and in two Sundays
the Knicks start playing basketballs. Actually, we're already starting to
get the pressers going and everything goes getting back towards
the NBA. So you'll be able to leave this disappointment
of a finish of a season behind pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, here's what I like to do in situations like this.
Punt is no no pun pun check what.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I like to do. You know, it's funny you say that,
because you know my daughter's playing flag football this fall
and uh, it's the first time the school has had it.
They're very excited about this. And when you want to punt,
there's no punt, right, you just move the ball like
you all the way back to the other team's twenty
yard there's no punching, right. So the thing is is
that when it gets to me, when they flip it
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over to fourth down, you actually the coach has to
yell out what he wants. So so incomplete pass on
third down, the chain flips over to fourth of here,
pud pud, because he's got to yell it to the referee.
So the referee punt. We're punting, punt, punt. Okay. I
could have seen Zoe bearing down and someone waiting to
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receive the punt. She broke the halo violation and later
out and she goes, what what it wasn't me? It
wasn't me. I didn't done fault anybody. I didn't punch
a couple of dude. You've taught her a couple of
victory dances, so she might dance over the opponent. But
the best thing to do in situations like this is
always to look at a team that has it worse
than you. So I said, what happened today with the
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Dallas Cowboys. It's worse than Who's Got It? Well, at
least you had no expect no, no, no no. But
see like this is a long time coming. This is
just a culmination of an entire summer of sadness. Yeah, no,
it is, it is. It's I've watched die a little bit.
But you weren't happy in the spring either, so I
would say it's springing. I know it was going to
be bad. It's just a matter of how.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Man.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
It's like you got broken up with and she went
to the spring dance with someone else and then was
dating somebody else after into the summer and then came
back to school. In the fault, you're dating a third person.
It's like you read my journal. Yeah that's for my
short story. I shouldn't be adapted by Lifetime television.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
So let's get to the Dallas Cowboys, because boy did
Jerry Jones have a great my fault today from his
weekly appearance on radio in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
So the Cowboys they win week one, everything is awesome.
They get boat raced in week two, and they get
boat raced in week three before come back at the end.
Makes it look like it was a close. Look good.
But Jerry Jones, I will give him the nod for
this before I just then tear Jerry Jones apart. I
give Jerry Jones the nod for this because the one
and two start, he was asked, Hey, Jerry, whose fault
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is this? And Jerry said it's mine.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
WFAA TV this morning had a pull, you know, saying
who was to blame for the one and two start?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
The players in the field, everything, seventy said that you
were the one to blame. Is that fair? That's very fair.
That's very fair, which well known that no decision is ultimately.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Made there for what I either have a.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Improve it.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That's very fair.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
How could you think otherwise?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
All right? First of all, he's somehow made And that's
what I love about Jerry Jones. He somehow made it,
taking taking responsibility for a bad start, yet still made.
It's all about me. Well, he took all that energy
like a super villain. Of course it's fair, right, Wait,
I didn't know he could do that. Nobody else Man
Steven doesn't make decisions. Jerry Junior doesn't make decisions nobody.
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I'm just I'm making them all. Yeah, that's very fair
to say. That's my fault. Yep, my fault. I was
waiting for pushback, waiting for Jerry to fight. It's like,
damn it, you gave me nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
What's your next question? What's the next one? What do
you got now? There's two big things to take away
from this one. Something different about Jerry Jones. I always like, hey,
what's something different we can say about Jerry Jones and
the Cowboys In the start here his first thing is
that it really is amazing that Jerry Jones is in
like thirty of the Cowboys being all about him. There's
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no owner in sports we give the time of day
two more than just for a day or two days
here and there. When there's somehow in the news for something.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, I mean Arthur Cup and when Bryce Young gets bench,
David Tepper becomes a topic for a couple of days.
But Jerry Jones has made the Cowboys about him. We
talk about the owner. He's the guy man like you
think about that. We don't talk about anything Mark Cuban
on and off for a long time, but really not
Mark so But Jerry we've made it. He's found a
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way to make the biggest, most popular team in football
about him for three decades. I mean, all the big
star players they have had coming through Dallas and it's
been about him. Now here's the other part of it, okay,
is that if you want to sit here and talk
about Blaine right, like what Tom Cruises line from a
few good men. Hey, my dad taught me that winning
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a try I was about a signing blame. He's gonna
give us our clients. We're gonna give him Kendrick right,
You're gonna give me the players. I'm gonna give you
Jerry Jones. If you're looking at the Cowboys underachieving now
for the better part of thirty years. Okay. Now, it's
not like he didn't achieve because he took over the
team and he made a lot of big moves that
were unpopular at the time. But look, he won three
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Super Bowls, right, Hey, Tom Landry had had enough that
not a popular move. Jimmy Johnson comes in, Cowboys have
a dynasty. But Jerry Jones is that player who and
we talk about players like this a lot where if
you're looking at him as an owner, who is he
He's that player who had a lot of success, a
lot of surprising success really early in his career, and
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as a result, never understood what he had to do
to keep it going.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
That's fair, right, Like he's like, like, you know, you
know that, I've heard that a lot about the career
was like Miles Austin. Right when Miles Austin showed up
in Dallas and suddenly he's amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
His friend's like, wow, who knew he was this good?
When you have so much success and it's and it's
it's unexpected, right, Because there's guys coming out of school,
I know what I have to do to prepare to
be a star. I get into the league, I know
how to prepare to be a star. I can handle it,
move on. But there's players that when when they get
to the when they get to the league and all
of a sudden, hey, for whatever reason, that first couple
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of years, Hey I got the league. At my I'm
doing whatever I want to do. This is great. Lots
of guys don't know what it takes to sustain that,
and as a result, they never learn. You can't do
things this. You always have to evolve. You always have
to figure out when the defensive backs figure out what
to do, you have to figure out a way. When
you start slowing down a little bit, you have to
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figure out a better way to get in and out
of your breaks. Whatever it is. But that's who Jerry
Jones you want to talk about. Jerry Jones is my fault.
He's someone that had tremendous amount of success early and
he came in with all his money and I'm making
these unpopular moves of what happened. He brings in a
great head coach. He's got three Hall of Famers at quarterback,
running back, and wide receiver. And it was great, right.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
He had so much success that early in his career
as an owner, he's not known how to get past that,
how to figure things out the rest of the way,
how to build a roster that can sustain competing over
a long period of time. Can't tell me you can't
do it. I watched the Patrons do it for twenty years, right,
I watch the Steelers do it every year. They're over
five hundred, they were in the playoffs. He has never
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figured it out because he had so much great success
the first few years. Then after that, Okay, this is
just gonna happen. Because I'm the owner of the Cowboys
and I can do whatever I want. But then you
can't bring in the right head coach and you can't
get the quarterback right, then you can't get the rest
of the team right. You start overpaying. And this is
almost thirty years of the Cowboys underachieving. So if you
want to break down Jerry Jones, say it's my fault.
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It's my fault. Yeah, what we saw this last year
of him not going out and signing anybody. Yeah, we
knew the Cowboys were gonna stink. Oh, but I'm gonna
give Dak and CD money. You had Dak and CD
last year. You need to go out and get better players.
You can't tell me you didn't have money for Derek Henry.
You had money because you hadn't given any money to
Dak or CD lamb at that point, you could have
given money to Derek Harry. Don't give me the well'
goodn't afford Derek Henry. So, yeah, couldn't afford Mark Henry either.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
W W.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's a guy's named Henry. Can't afford him. Couldn't afford
Henry Thomas. He had done e Teason's nineteen eighty three.
So that's that's Jerry Jones's why this is no surprise.
He's never learned how do I sustain that initial success?
And instead this is why the Cowboys are where they are.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Well, I mean, Henry Thomas did go on to a
tremendous career as a character actor. I mean he's shown
up in a lot of dramas through the years. But
that to say, you know, we talked about Trevor Lawrence
last night. Right, he's on the other end of the
spectrum of a star that now it's all right, what's
your next act? Right, Kyler Murray? That was the you
dominated all of these levels. What's your next act? You
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brought up the other side of it of unexpected success.
It's like, all right, this seems to be working. How
do I get better? For Jerry Jones, everything he touched
early turned to gold, and he credited himself for all that,
not Jimmy Johnson, not any of the other influences that
he had in turn of building those rosters. It all
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became look in the mirror, I'm the guy, and well
that's how he lost.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Jimmy Johnson went on to pay He said, I can
have Barry Switzer coming and.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Coaching, and that's what he did, I guess, but that's
the boy, right is it became all about for thirty years,
and every once in a while Steven locks him in
the closet and prevents him from doing making a move
and getting the player that he really wants, either in
the draft or getting on the phone when they take
it away and give him one of those toy telephones,
and like he's not talking to gms about potential acquisitions.
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The fact that he made it about himself like he
was a football wizard, and over thirty years, has never
been wise enough to realize that's the thing. Thirty bleeping years. Man,
he had a four year run of dominance. Next year
is my year, right, Those drafts all worked, all three
of those guys, three of the greatest at their position
you've ever seen. Troikman gets un to nearly enough love
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for what he did for that squad. But that's another
argument another time point after that, At no point, not
at after a five year of futility, a ten year
of futility, celebrating commemorating all of those teams of yesteryear,
when you have the twentieth anniversary of the first Super Bowl,
that should have probably been enough to tell you, man,
I probably want to go back to the way we
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did things. Then, Yeah, get done. We were a lot better. Hey,
you think you think Emmitt can still run it a
little bit, you think, but gets off the couch in
that commercial It gets trucks. I know that, I know
that Donald kid is sleeping during the Rams games. Maybe
Emmitt can just run a couple couple of times, just
a couple of times. This is run just kind of
show the young guys how to do it well. At
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this point, Emmett ain't gonna be much worse than the
run game that Jerry's trotting out there.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
But that's who Jerry jones with unexpected success early and
you never learn how to sustain it. And look what
happens a bunch of yes people around him. Man, someone
just gotta shake him and say, Jerry, Jerry, wake up.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
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Speaker 1 (31:02):
Greetings, it is Friday. It is Friday. How understated is happening?
It isn't that much closer to another Jets game.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
It is Friday. It's almost another mischief Friday. We got
football on the screen. Yes, the White Sox are record setters.
That's Friday. Today's Friday. It is. It is Friday, losers. Ever,
if you're going to be the greatest at something, you
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gotta really go for it. It is one hundred and
twenty one losses. Come on now, it is Friday. But
Jason's Mets can't even say that. Mike, Well, I mean
they're good at losing. They're not great at losing. No,
we've been really good at losing for a long time,
like we are. You haven't been this great. We're in
the Hall of very good. This is yeah, but that's
just it.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You're in the Hall of fats great. This is whose
record did they break? They broke the Mets right, Yeah,
but you're an expansion team. It's nineteen sixty two. Yeah, no, No,
there's a lot to unpack here. There's a lot going on.
It is Friday, and that's you're gonna get me right
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thumping the Rockies right now, nine to two in the
sixth inning. They'll really be busting out some champagne after
this game. And Otani now a fifty four to fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, guy stolen base earlier for RBI on the day,
up to one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And you know, we joked about him being the first.
Now is gonna be the first fifty five to fifty
five guy potentially the last couple of days here. But
you know, I can't believe this, and you brought this
up a few minutes ago. No one has ever hit
fifty five home runs in the season in baseball. Yeah,
it's weird if at fifty four, but it's like he says,
hit fifty four.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Nobody's hit fifty fifty six. But now we have a
scoring game. He's still no double Nichols, no double Brady
Anderson right there, right, not even brave there he was
right there, not in that four, not in that magical year.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, there were there's fifty four, there's fifty six, right.
Sosa had fifty six one year, but no fifty five,
never had fifty five. Tony could be the first one.
Of of course, he's gonna be the first to do
something double Nichols.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Uh but while he's playing in Colorado, you think he
wants to stop. With one more run, he could be shot. Now,
he could be sixty six at sixty to sixty. And
with this pitching, I got.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
A few more, We're gonna be absolutely fine. Uh So, Yes,
while Major League Baseball, the race for the postseason in
the American League, well we'll get to that in a second.
In the National League, things are looking good for the
Braves because the Braves won tonight. They won three to nothing.
Max Stree, Max Freed, and maybe his last start in
Atlanta is great through eight and two thirds beats the
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Royals and the Diamondbacks and the Padres. Right now was
the Padres up four to one in the bottom of
the first inning over Arizona. This is he because the
Mets are losing to the Brewers six to two in
the top of the six innings.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Are wearing some really awful uniforms and they should be penalized.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
For the umpire should be penalized everybody's I hate baseball.
But let's focus on the positive before because you can't
do the positive. Uh, the big result of the night
in sports is this, and you can't get to a
bigger difference of lady and the tiger where it comes
to how the final the final thing lady and the tiger?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You know the old thing you choose two doors behind
one door is a beautiful lady behind. You want to
choose a beautiful lady and not the tiger.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Right, Ladies, I thought you're going lady in the tramp
because you were already thinking about eating pasta. No, I
thought I was thinking about Yes is a nine. I
will give you twenty five dollars for every paper clip
you have in your purse. Right now, let's make a deal.
I know, lady of the tiger, it isn't a second
of the day where he isn't thinking about pasta. That's
a fair point.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
No, No, that's not hamburgers or ice cream, cheese or
ice Uh yeah yeah, Oh, I don't have pasta without
cheese on What are you kidding? Why would I do that?
That makes no sense. It's like having a hamburger with
no cheese. Why would I do that. It makes no sense.
It's called hamburger. Why would I have a sandwich with
no cheese on it? That makes no sense. That's just stupid.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
The look on your face is just like, what else
do you want me to say? It's just stupid. It's stupid,
but maybe the finest most coherent logical argument you've ever made.
It's just stupid.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Game of the night in Major League Baseball, and you
saw the absolute ends of ecstasy and pain in this
flyball right center.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Feel God tears God the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
It's actually happening outside stand.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
That was actually that was actually the White Sox call.
I think they were very excited.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
For the Doggers to make the playoff. Just thought it
was kind of funny that there's no mention of the
fact that the outfielders run into each other. Yeah, well
is that is that new? That's nothing new. There's a
fly of ball like going back, like wow, it just
crashed into each getting grinned at each other. Is that
Benetti on the call there? Yeah, that's three times a
week with the with the White Sox coming out and
that one hurt. That was like a double smacked on
(36:27):
Mike to me too, to you why I call that
game for the White Yeah, but it's your former guy.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
That's fine calling that and calling that. So he might
have daggers. He might be, And there's a lot of
other people who have gone out of their way to
throw flowers at his feet the last year.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I am not one of those guys. So is he
better than what replaced him?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You see video of it and Benetti's standing up, middle
fingers in the air extended while he's making the could
have been doing that, Yeah, like Bud Adams when he
did that at the Oh yeah, yeah, but it's only
going to Mic nobody else. Yeah, No, just to you
directly to the dagger to my heart. But look, let's
deal with the Let's deal with the positives first. Let's
deal with the front side of this. First, the Tigers
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are in the playoffs. There is no better story in
baseball all season long than the Detroit Tigers, not even close.
Not there's great things. We have seen what Shoheo Tani
has done with Aaron Judge has done it, there's great.
There is no better story. Then here's the Tigers, who
have been just at the bottom of the barrel for
a decade. They basically give up at the trade deadline.
(37:31):
They don't. They only half gave up though, right, yeah,
you got it winner, right, the best move the guy
you didn't get rid of me when logic dictated that, yes,
you should have sold him for all the spare parts
you could possibly get. I mean they they are the
best team in baseball since the trade deadline, which shows
you how overrated the trade deadline can be, because all
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the Tigers did was basically, we traded away a couple
of players and we kept the ones we thought we
could trade. But we right, they keep school ball and
he's going to be the Sidon Award winner. You've seen
the pitching jump up, and Kevin Kelly's been unbeatable out
of that bullpen over the past three four weeks. But
this is a team that no one expected anything of them,
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and here they are at the deadline where nothing changed,
where absolutely nothing changed, and here they are the best
team in baseball since that point, for a heritage team
that has stunk for a long long time. And every
year you're penciling the Tigers in for hundred losses, a
hundred laws. There's no better story than seeing this happen
to the Tigers making the playoffs and not just squeaking
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in like much. A couple of weeks ago, it was, hey,
watch out for the Tigers. They could get back in
this thing. No, now boom, they've clinched. They're just hanging
out the last couple of days of the regular Here's
the data point that really just kind of stands and obvious.
It becomes the arbitrary. Let's just pick a date out
of the sky. August eleventh is the date from the
ESPN article kind of talking about this momentous occasion today,
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thirty one and eleven in their last forty two games,
lowest dra and baseball largest run differential, and there were
eight games under five hundred at that point. Now, August
eleventh arbitrary, Like normally go all right, last day, you know,
Memorial Day or July fourth, they're the trade deadline. But
the data point just say, you're already halfway through the
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month of August and they're able to make this charge
and this run and everything started to click. I'd be
curious to see if you go back on that date
whenever we have our fun with the tankathon, strength of
schedule for the remainder of the season, what the rest
of their schedule look like, doesn't matter because you still
have to play the games. And here we are today
the momentous occasion White Sox after sweeping the Angels to
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send them to the more season ever, which is funny,
we'll get to them. Let's stickin itself. And then you
go on the road and in game one against the
Tigers in this final series, you go and you take
another l right crochet talking about sticking around and whatever else.
He's only able to give you four innings before he
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departs and once again the bullpen and well, Tigers win.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Well, this just shows you that when you think about
how bad your team is every year and the season's over,
and this is where we're at. Every year there's at
least one team that at the end of September we
do a fill in the blank with and that is
what a story.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Team X is. Here they were fifty games under five
hundred on blank day and look at the record now
since then they have gone insert best record in baseball
and look at them all the way back in and
here they are making it to the playoffs or they
get to the very end of the season and it
comes down to the final weekend. There's a team. Every
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year there's a team like that, So everybody, no matter
what kind of season you should have, you could say,
why not us, because it's not like the Tigers went
out and did great stuff at the deadline. They didn't
that they didn't. I mean, it was it really it was.
They traded a couple of guys away and they kept
guys like school as well. We're not gonna we're not
excited what we could get for him. No, and look
at what they've been doing. I mean, they're a team
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that nobody wants to play in the playoffs because they're
just absolutely a team with nothing to lose.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Their pitching is really good. You don't want to face
schoobl once or twice in a series because you're looking
at two losses there, because you're talking about that's how
much he would he would most likely pitch in a
series now shorter series, shorter series obviously, but you don't
want to face game one, you know, with him that way.
So they're a team nobody wants to play, and it's
just it goes to show you that there's always a
team every year, and to think that your team is done,
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we're out of it, we're here unless you're the White Sox. Uh,
there's always a way back, and we always look back
and say the same things for these teams. Here's their
record on X day X, here's their record since day X.
Here's their record. Now, what an incredible turnaround. What is
the key to this? And it's look at that and
the Tigers are that team. There is no better story
than seeing this team, the Tigers, who, like I said,
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you leave them for dead at the beginning of every year,
and here they're on the play.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
They have one guy hitting better than sixty five, Kerry
Carpenter to eighty eight and two hundred and fifty seven
at bats, playing in eighty five games. Riley Green, he's
an All Star. Two sixty five, twenty four, seventy four. Uh,
that's his numbers. I mean, that's that's where we're at.
But you've got a bunch of guys that you know,
clutch hits, right, that's and then three outcome baseball. We've
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seen batting averages dip all across the league. We're talking
about batting champions maybe hitting as low as you know,
three ten. So it's it's a different one.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Guys hitting over three hundred the entire year and for
all the lamentation over everybody's stealing, it's so easy two
guys over fifty. So all of that to say for
the Tigers, I mean it's a fantastic story and for
schoobl Look, I love south Pause, you know, always uh excidable,
and when teams just decide, all right, we're not getting
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something commensurate with his talent, so we'll.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Just ride it out. It's kind of curious. Goes back
to the White Sox before the season when they traded
Dylan Cees. Why why unless he just threatened not to
report and he's gonna go fishing somewhere.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Not man, I really it's an unbelievable the best story
in baseball Detroit Tigers, and and and and it's not
even close.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Exit.
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Speaker 3 (43:32):
My Chicago white size. I do appreciate the fact that
I mean National Show and we just did a segment
about the Detroit Tigers. Detroit, you said Detroit? I did
is Detroit. Can we hear Benett? God, let's hear it.
Let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Fly ball right center?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Ber you.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
God, years gone to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
You're like, God, you know what's great about that? He
talks about it like he's been there for all times.
Oh yeah, it's a long suffering fan base. It's the worst.
And like, dude, you just got here. Your bag hasn't
even been unpacked. But you know, sell, sell, sell, and
he did