October 1, 2024 • 40 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon explain the real reason Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. Has Aaron Rodgers has had enough of Robert Saleh? And the guys debate if the Lions are the NFC’s best team right now.
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big night in the NFL coming up in a bit,
including the biggest question coming off of the Lion's huge
win and Jared Goff's night of nights that he had tonight. Boy,
But you know today we lost a couple of legends today.
We talked last hour about to Kem Bamtumbo, who passed
away at the age of fifty eight. Brain cancer. And
then right after the Mets game against the Braves today
(01:13):
they closed the double header, the news breaks to Pete
Rose died at the age of eighty three. There is
no details right now is for the cause of death.
Apparently he was found by a family friend or a friend.
Foul plays not not suspected, but Pete Rose was eighty
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three years old. And Rick Flair tweeted out that he
was signing autographs with Pete Rose yesterday, so that was something. So,
you know, this is unexpected. Maybe a heart attack for
Pete Rose, you know, who knows, but you know, Pete
was still active even up until a day ago. And
you know, a couple of weird things about this is
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that you want to talk about something where where it
was just really awkward following the Mets game against the Braves. Right,
we'll get to Pete. We'll get to the big question
about Pete Rose in a second. Is following the game.
The game ends, and as I'm following U stuff on
Twitter and I'm tweeting out about the Mets and it's
so exciting, it comes up, boom, Pete Rose dies, Like,
(02:14):
oh my god, Pete Rose just died. Oh my god,
Pete and I tell Pama, it just happened like three
minutes ago, and ESPN is finishing, they're broadcast of the
game and Sports Center is started. You know, so they
have the teas coming out. You know, hey, we have that.
We have uh, you know coming up. We're gonna dug
the life into kempe Matumba. We have this game to
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get to. We have Monday night football to talk about.
They get everything planned out for their show and uh,
they're interviewing the guys on the set following the game
and you know, just expecting to find digging. They're gonna
finish up talking about the Mets Brays and they're gonna
throw back. And I think Jay Harris was interviewing at
Wardo Perez and Warto Perez just at the end, just hey, guys,
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I want to stop a second and say something that
we just found out. My dad just called me Tony Perez.
My dad just called me. Pete Rose died at the
age of eighty three. And I'm sitting here watching going
knowing how sports television works, I'm like, there is no
way ESPN wanted him to mention that, right, there is
there is no way because they want to be able
to break the news. They want to be able to
say we have something here, because there's nothing right. It
(03:18):
just happened, like right when the changeover of the game
to the show happens. Okay, Pete Rose died. We'll get
to it here, we'll mention it and we'll tease it
coming up, we'll talk about him, we'll run his oh
bit package everything else. And when it wardo Perez wanted
to talk about it, and he says it, and I'm
saying to myself, there is no way he is because
then they didn't mention it right, because then they went
on and did me Tumbo and the other things had
(03:39):
nothing ready on you. I'm because now you mentioned this
and everybody is going, why aren't you talking about Pete Rose? Oh?
How are you not talking about Pete Rose? This is amazing.
And like ESPN, they're doing there because they have time
set up to go to site to talk about the
Monday night games. They have the Keni Tumbo package ready
to go. They have this and I'm gonna I'm just watching,
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going ooh. There is no way they wanted him to
say that. There is just no way they wanted him
to break that news. Right there and throw it back
and I'm looking at Jay Harrison. He's just stonefaced the
whole time, and I'm going, Okay, oh boy, what do
they do now? And what are they gonna do? Right? Yes,
you know, thanks appreciate it. You know, now, now this
and now, because now that's a thing, and you know
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the crazy I say crazy a lot. But the one
of the things I thought about there was sometimes the
change in sports television over the last few years, and
that this is something that you have to be able
to roll with. You have to be able to adjust
and go to and say, if Pete Rose dies, hey,
(04:42):
guess what, guys, you got to talk about Pete Rose
for a couple seconds. This is what you get paid
for up on that desk to talk about Pete Rose.
Because I watched him talk about Matumbo and stuff they
could say. You know, they both talked about Tumbo's legacy,
and they talked about in some of their great moments.
You got to be able to go and talk about
Pete Rose like that's become the story. And because it's
so regimented, there was no way to do it. And
(05:04):
I'm like, this is a time, this is a time
when like for you and I we do for a living,
Like if I'm on that set, Hey, Jason, oh my god,
Pete Rose just died three minutes ago. Cool, I got it.
Don't worry about it. I got it. We got it,
I got it. We're all good. I'll talk about Pete Rose.
I got it, I got it. This is yeah. I
don't worry about it. Whenever you want to talk figure
stuff out, we'll talk about it. I could talk about
Pete Rose for a half hour, okay, just because you
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need to know stuff like that. But the fact that
that was just so different, because Sports Center is so different,
so regimented, like there was no way to get into it,
you know. And I know that you need TV, you
need graphics built and everything else, but hey, how much
have we seen debate shows? We're just people talking, right, Like,
you got to be able to go to that.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean, you can fill a buster for a couple
of minutes while they get it. You got to be
able to go to that shore up with the dates
and whatever. You know, you got to get Jeff Passing
on the phone. You gotta get so you gotta I mean,
you have to be able to say we're doing this
right now, just see that they want like Jeff Passing
and somebody else take over for really, you could do NFL,
(06:02):
you do multiple sports. That is the We've looked into
the contract and we can make you do multiple sports
instead of hiring shit.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We don't have another guy. And though it's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Money, so it tells you that Lebron said they can't
have Wendy. People do other things.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
People. People aren't happy at the money we gave Pat McAfee.
So if we give another guy a lot of money,
that's gonna really tough. Hey, hey, can you guys kind
of split the job.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, because they're also still negotiating with the leader of
the pack, you know, good old Steven Ay.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
But yeah, I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I pride, you know, we do I think a lot
of this radio part of the media world very well
in terms of reacting to breaking stories, reacting to games
first blush and big stories like that. I think we
do that as well or better than anyone you're gonna find.
And it's one of the things I pride, you know,
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ride myself on and the ability to go into the
way back machine, grab some of this and just get
to talking. Well, hey, you can get a video package,
a highlight package whenever you need to.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Eventually you got to be able to speak to it.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But yeah, just confirm that it was a big trading
card show in Nashville where they had the big Herd
machine What's Left was back together Rick Flair and a
bunch of wrestlers on hand as well Sting and Jerry
the King Lawler and all those things.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So yeah, big weekend there. Now, as far as Pete goes,
the last few years of his life would be a
lot different. And were it not for the scandal that
broke a few years ago when he was doing TV
for Fox, when he had kind of hit the next
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I don't want to say, I don't want to say
people had forgotten about it, but embracing Pete Rose was okay, right.
Fox put him on TV and the Baseball Show with
he and a Rod and Frank Thomas. It was an
amazing show because.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
It was talking about baseball. And if there's anything I mean,
you've talked to Pete Rose on your shows, I've talked
to Pete Rose in the past.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
He was honest.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
He asked an opinion about a player, he'd tell you
what was wrong with his swing or oh things had
gone sideways sometimes add a little editorial that maybe he
didn't expect no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Pete says that he was a brutally honest guy, and
I could watch him and a Rod talk about hitting forever.
It was such a great it was such a great thing.
That was a show on the rise. And then it
comes out that Pete was involved in a bit of
a scale I'd say a bit of a scandal, because
it was something that was kept hush hush for a
long time that when he was thirty four in the
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mid seventies, he was dating an underage girl who was
around sixteen years old. Now, this came up a few
years ago as a result of a conversation that somebody
else was having on a podcast where yeah, Pete was
dating a fifteen sixteen year old girl. Pete Rose tried
to sue the guy, and this story gets out there.
When he was thirty four, he was dating a girl
(09:00):
that was around sixteen. Now, there was a discrepancy as
to how old she was. Some report said she was
fifteen or sixteen, some reports said it was sixteen. Pete
acknowledge a relationship, but after that, like you know, you
can't have a guy on TV. After that. It was tough,
you know. He couldn't just say we're gonna have Pete
Rose out of here when this here's a story where you're
thirty four, you're taking a sixteen year old girl. Yeah, sorry, dude.
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So they took Pete Rose off the air and that
was and Pete was done doing anything media wise after that.
If that scandal had not come up, and Pete Rose's
life was about just the gambling band, he would have
been in the Hall of Fame sometime in the last
few years. Because the line between hey, gambling bad in sports,
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that's gotten blurred so much because now sports embrace gambling
and NFL embraces gambling, and now the attitudes towards gambling
are much different than when Pete got his lifetime ban
in eight nineteen eighty nine. All Right, Pete Rose, who
gambled on baseball when he played, when he was a manager,
that was the worst thing you could do. And I
get that Pete Rose was banned, But the last few years,
(10:06):
like gambling, Okay, it's not that big a deal. Guys
break the rules and gamble in NFL, they get a
year suspension. So the fact that we had come around
to it now gambling was more accepted. I'm pretty sure
that it would have been. You know what, Pete's done
his time there. I don't think you would have had
a huge opposition to say, oh, Pete Rose Hall of Famer. Yeah,
it's time to let him in. Pete's done the time.
(10:28):
He's been out of the game for thirty five years,
but he still does appearances for the game, still did
everything he could to promote the game of baseball. He
loved baseball. Yeah, we can let Pete it. And I
get that it was a bad thing, and you had
the ad, the Giamatti and the Vincent and Bud Selig
who supposedly, you know, they were carrying this on. But
you know, it's in the twenty twenties. The world is
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not what it was in nineteen ninety. So I really
do think that if if it was just about this,
the betting scandal, he would have been allowed back, and
that he would have been allowed in the Hall of
Fame a couple of years ago, and he would have
had that in the last couple of years. And for
someone who made his whole life about hey, I'm the
best player, I'm not in the Hall of Fame. He
would have given all that back in a second to
be a Hall of Famer, like he wanted to do that.
(11:11):
But when that scandal came up about about in the seventies,
like that was it like there was like, okay, now
we're not in the Pete Rose business anymore. And and
that's what put a final, final no on that and
closed that door forever. Yeah, I mean, he never got
to be on the ballot.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Would have been interesting to see what that vote would
have turned out, as I mean, because certainly still a
lot of strong thoughts on it. It is the League
rule twenty one prohibitive from placing wagers, even legal bets
on baseball, and from wagering with the legal and offshore bookmaker.
So all of that is still on the books. So
you know, there's still gonna be some percentage that would
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say he doesn't get in. And the deal with a
Bartlett Gmatti as a lifetime ban, there was always wondering
how long a lifetime ban would have been if Giamatti
hadn't died so quickly there after. As you say, it
became a legacy thing from commissioner to commissioner. It's like, Wow,
that's what he agreed to, and that's what they laid out.
(12:08):
So yeah, it's the curiosity because certainly that rule is
still in place, right that that ban is still there,
And you've got other leagues that have different rules and punishments,
et cetera, but for baseball, that still remains the standard.
Now he's represented in Cooperstown, plenty of artifacts, the hit
from forty two to fifty, the bat from forty two
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to fifty six, a bunch of baseball's, all those things.
And that's where it always gets to the tough argument
for me, because in the end, it's a museum, right,
it's a museum and the game went on. Did any
long standing damage come from him?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
When you look at you know, the whole steroid era,
I mean, it's been fairly arbitrary about who's been kept in,
who's been allowed in, and who's been kept out, whether
you liked the guy or not. And you know, you
didn't have to have a positive test or even even
court battles. For some guys, it was just like now
you're out, and you you were nice to us, so
(13:14):
we'll let you in. So I I've always had an
issue with that and the presumption of innocence of anybody
during that fifteen to twenty years is always foolhardy, at
least from where I sit. But for Pete Rose May,
you're talking about a guy who paid a thirty six
year penalty for this infraction however long, and they had
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the receipts, so I guess they'd have to decide where
it began and ended. But for him, I think that
you know, he never got the the embrace, never got
to do the speech, but he lost out on thirty
six years of revenue, which I think cheezed him off
as much as anything that he couldn't when he signed
a multiplayer item, couldn't put the hof next to the
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other guys from the big Red Machine and all the
money and adoration that went with it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
But I think, I think you'll Pete still made money.
You know, he was a guy assigning autographs all the time,
every day, But he would have given that up to
be a Hall of Famer like he wanted that next
to because look the way he played the game. I
slide head first because of Pete Rose I mean, I
don't slide. I can't believe as recklessly as he's like
he would. He would run and leap in the air
and slide. I'm like, oh my god, I can't do that.
(14:20):
But I could. I could slide at first. Oh. I
used to slide head first and softful all the time. Really,
I told all the girls, like I coached, slide head first,
but not into home. And then girls would slide at
home because they would fall in love with like, don't
slide into home, play dead first. Everyone else, slide head
first and get you there fast.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Now catchers can't cover the plate anymore, so I mean,
but you don't want them to.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I don't want them to hit their head on somebody's
shin guard because someone's you know, the the in youth sports,
it's it's more of a I just don't want the
catcher to be standing there, you know, and have her
and have her shin guard in the wrong place. You
slide and hit your head. But but I mean, look
the way, as hard as he played the game, as
much as he loved the game, Uh yeah, he would have.
He would have given everything up to have that hof
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next with it. I think you could have said him
to take away all your money. But you're in the
Hall of Fames. Olkama Hall of Famer, Like, that's how
much he That's how much he wanted to get in,
because that was the way he played. Oh you like money, well,
but you realize that your life changes when suddenly you're
not a hall all right, how do I continue to
how do I push this forward? Okay, I'm the guy
not in the Hall of Fame and now I'm here
with Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
The worst was he could go and he could work
with guys off the field and everything else, but couldn't
actually become a hitting coach or anything either. So he
couldn't officially be part of the game that way. And
I think that was the bigger, bigger thing because he
knew how he could fix guys left and right.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
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Speaker 1 (15:57):
I was a lot more miserable until the Mets one today.
Then it was okay, chet Joe, that's one, and I
didn't care the game.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
But then they had the opportunity to send the Braves
to their death or what did they do? They surrendered
total insanity, Oh man, insanity.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I was fed then. I mean today I rode the
lightning for I can't tell you what that eighth the
ninth inning was like, for Oh, we're gonna lose this
game three nothing, nope, we're winning six three nope. Now
we're losing seven six, Nope, we're winning eight seven. I mean,
it was years off my life today. Years.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, final two innings was insane, right, years innings one
through seven you were going quietly into the good night. Yeah,
it's a final.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, we're making Schwellenbach look like Greg Maddox. Okay, great,
and he's so defiant on the mount. Oh, he feels
his position. And I'm listening to ESPN announcers fawning over
the Braves like, oh the braid, and then couldn't get it,
couldn't get out of the eighth six runs, lose eight seven.
Do you always think the announcers are against you? Of course? Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Like everything of vocal inflection is dig get the guy
out a frog in his throat or no, he's just
giving you the dramatic ending to like say newspiece or something.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
No, I'll say that because I don't think I think
Aaron Rodgers gets the benefit of the doubt and a lot.
The first four games this year, they really have given
him the benefit of everything else. Oh yeah, everybody, they
all hate my teams. All the announces, they all hate
my teams. It's real, it happens.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I hate my teams, but I don't know they they
became a bunch of sycophantic fan boys for the Knicks
last year.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well the Knicks are great.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
No, no, no, but they like they got nauseating.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Uh. Before we get to Jared Goff, it's a little
bit on Aaron Rodgers. She brought up, Aaron Rodgers the
biggest debate of the day today. You brought up with you,
said Aaron Rodgers. Uh, this crazy ass debate today that
everybody he wants to focus on the wrong thing. Right,
I'll tell you about the Jets, the Cadence gate. Right
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following the game yesterday, the Jets lose an embarrassing game
to the Broncos and I hated football after that game.
An embarrassing game. And you can see that Robert Sala
and Aaron Rodgers don't have the best relationship. They're not
on the same page. Because Robert Sala said, hey, we
had a bit of a cadence issue because the Jets
were called for false starts four times. Breese Hall was
(18:27):
called for false start twice, and Aaron Rodgers was asked
about that and he said, now, I don't think we
have a cadence issue. We've been doing this for the
entire preseason accountability. And then today Robert Sala kind of
backed off that a little bit. Oh suddenly there's a problem.
It's Robert Sala's fault. The Jets stink and they don't
get along, and this is awful for Aaron time. Everybody,
you're missing the samir, You're missing the point of the exercise.
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Number one, Robert Sala is a bad head coach. I've
told you this many times. He's not a good head coach.
He is a great defensive coordinator and he motivates the team,
but offensive, do you really think he's involved with the
game plan? Do you really think he's calling the plays.
You really think, No, he's not. He's the zero, he's
zero involved. Do you think he and Aaron Rodgers even speak. No,
they probably don't. Let yesterday's games because the offense stunk.
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You want to know the real thing, This is the
real thing to take away from that. It's not about
Salah versus Aaron Rodgers and everything else. Because we've watched
Aaron Rodgers succeed with coaches. He's not crazy about. For gms,
he's not crazy about We've seen it. But the Jets
offense looked awful yesterday. And you know why because I
am really worried about Aaron Rodgers. Now four games in,
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as good as he looked on Thursday night, there were
still some things where we talked about. I said, boy,
I really don't know if he can throw deep. That's
a big thing. But after yesterday, four games, now, I
can tell you this about Aaron Rodgers. He is skittish
when he drops back to pass. Whether that is an
injury thing or a mental hurdle to the injury, he
is skittish when he goes back to pass. He throws
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the ball early when the play is designed to throw
the ball after a couple steps. And he throws early
when he feels either pressure around him or thinks he
should be throwing it early. The last possession of the
Jets game, Yesterda when he had a chance to drive down
and and and Zerlin missed the field goal. Rodgers is awful.
He throws three passes before the receiver even turns around.
(20:15):
Why because the possession before he got crunched on a
third down sack. He kind of limped off the field.
And what do we see. He looked terrible. He looked
like a guy that was that that was looking around
for a defender to hit him every single play. And
the and the Broncos like to blitz. The Broncos defense
is a lot better than people want to give it
credit for. And Aaron Rodgers looks skittish. He looks skittish.
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He throws the ball early. And the biggest thing is,
I don't know that he can throw the ball downfield anymore.
And for a guy that always used to look downfield,
that never used to du dump the ball off to
his running backs, he was always like that. When they
say about the animals eyes in front and there for
the hunt like eyes to the side and they're and
they're you know, they're not animals that want to go
out and try to They don't have prey. Like Aaron
Rodgers always eyes in the front, he was always looking downfield.
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How can I get chunk yardage? How can I get
as many yards account of this play? And now he's
throwing the ball and his running backs a third of
the time, and I don't know that he can throw
the ball with any accuracy more than twenty yards downfield
when he gets a clean pocket. The very few times
to get a clean pocket, he'll try, but he'll only
throw the ball about fifteen yards. Like he's got the
(21:21):
chance to throw the ball deep downfield, but either the
play is not called for it or he doesn't do it.
But for four games now, I don't know that he
can throw the ball downfield because he just hasn't done it.
And this has gone past the part where well the
section of the game called for this kind of play,
which is why I say, hey, I don't know what
he's got a clean pocket, what the long ball situation
is like. But through four games now, I know he
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can't throw the ball deep downfield because he hasn't done it.
He would have done it at least a couple of times.
Try to throw a jump ball from Mike Williams or
Garrett Wilson or something to try to get those guys
involved more. But he hasn't done it, so I know
watching him, he still can make some throws that I
don't know anybody in the NFL can make. When he's
running to the right and he turns around, throws back
across his body, hit a guy and straw ten yards downfield,
middle of the field. Yeah, he could do that, but
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he throws so quickly. He throws more pronounced off his
back foot now, and he used to do that a
lot with with Green Bay, but it's much more pronounced now.
But I don't know that he's got the arm strength
that he used to have when he could do that
with success in Green Bay. Whether it's because he's forty
or he's still building back up after a year being away.
But I gotta think by now, after a full summer
of throwing the football in four weeks, he's gonna he's
(22:25):
gonna throw this is about as strong as his arm
is gonna get. Right, He's gonna be back to a
close to alarm strength as he can, and he simply
can't throw the ball downfield. That's the big worry. This
is what makes me think I got to rethink everything
I thought the Jets could do this year, because if
he's skittish and he throws the ball early because he's
skittish and he can't throw it downfield, which maybe why
he throws the ball early, then we're in for a
(22:45):
load of hurt and it's gonna be a long ass
season because I don't know that he can do any
of those things well. I mean, before the season he began,
we talked a lot about whether the offensive line was
gonna be good enough to make him feel that stability
early while his body caught up to game speed, et cetera.
I mean, when he got hit and went off the field,
Tell me you didn't think there was something more nefarious
(23:07):
at play after that hit. Now they say he avoided
anything serious and he'll be ready to go, But you're
still in that feeling out process. Because while he danced
and did a pretty good job, and we talked about
it the night of the win over the Patriots, he
didn't face a lot of big pressure in terms of physicality, right,
he didn't take his WWE style bump in that game
(23:31):
he did this time. The other is and this is
a larger question.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And look, I respect the talent that Garrett Wilson is.
Is he giving you enough to where he's a number
one and making himself available so Aaron Rodgers can take
the shot because we know Mike Williams just rounding himself
back into shape, right, So that's one of those things.
The fact that he was more involved this week could sign.
And that's a big physical receip that can win one
(23:58):
on one battle.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I can jump off. Yeah, so if he can get downfield.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
That's one thing we saw during his tenure with the
Chargers is that you could put it up for grabs
when he was available, and he'd make a play and
go get it for you. For Garrett Wilson at this point,
it's been a lot of dump offs and then hopefully
some yak as opposed to all right, take your fifteen
twenty yard route and try to make a play. I
don't know how much of that is arm versus you know,
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just not setting the same way.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Why. Well, for Wilson, I don't know that. I don't
know that he's a guy that's good close to the
line of scrimmage. He needs a little bit of room
to operate to gain separation. I know, because when they
try to throw to him, I mean always getting locked
up by defender. Yeah. Well, because Rogers is taking two
steps and thrown on the football, right, there's no separation
at that point, right. He needs a little bit more
downfit because I've seen him get separation for It's not
(24:46):
like he's forty years old he can't do it anymore.
I've seen him get big time separation for DB's and
have big long plays for touchdowns. But when Rogers throwing
the football as fast as he is, no, he doesn't
have the separation. So it seems like Wilson is not
having that great a year and not being able to
get any separation. But the truth is, well, when you
have to make the play in less than two and
a half seconds, no, you're not gonna have the separation.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
The other is, I mean he's gonna draw any safety help.
And we had the chronicle. Everybody wants to outlaw the
type of defenses that are getting run and Wilson's gonna
get the bulk of that. So you know, do you
trust yourself? And is Rogers gonna put the ball potentially
into Harm's way. Generally, that's not a thing he's gonna do,
which means that's gonna negate some of the downfield potential
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opportunities for Wilson as well.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And look at the guys who are catching, Like when
Williams is just coming in, he and he's catching the
ball when they throw it up to him. He's got
some big catches. Lizard, Yes, he's got the relationship, but
Lizzard is a good physical receiver who uses his body
to shield the dB from the ball. His window of
getting open is a little bit different. When you're physical
and can do that, you're gonna get the ball. Garrett
(25:51):
Wilson's not that kind of guy. Yes, he can win
physical battles again the ball, but he's not physically dominant.
And so you see why the ball like al Izard
was catching all the passes yesterday because he he's the
guy one on one coverage. I can get it to him.
I can do that. But the Jets have a lot
of problems, man, And it's not just about Rogers and Solo.
This is physically what did I tell you? From the
beginning of the year, the Jets are asking Aaron Rodgers
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to come in and say, solve all our problems. Solve
all our problems are are are in lack of our
belief in the head coach. The questions into what kind
of team the gm IS has put in four how
good our offensive line is? Solve all of these problems
for us? And what I'm seeing over the first four
weeks is I don't know that he can solve those
problems because I don't know what he can do for
himself yet. But he could have the ball. He's not.
(26:33):
They did. They did give him the ball. I know
what I mean. Listen, they gave Breese Hall the ball
nine times he had eleven yards. Braylan Allen, who's a
much more physical running back, David too, eight times he
had fifty yards rushing. That's going to be a time
share soon anyway. If your offensive line is having trouble,
but you can't tell me they're not opening holes. If
one running back is running the same kind of plays
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and he's averaging six yards of carry the other guy's
averaging two yards of carry, what does that tell you? Okay,
one guy's got to get the one guy act. I mean,
Brelan Allen. Look, I'll tell you right now, and for
fantasy fantasy players, he's gonna be Derrick Henry. He's twenty
years old and he is such a huge physical kid.
He is incredibly talented. I don't know why teams didn't
get him. The Cowboys now are saying, why did we
(27:15):
get Braylan Allen? This kid is terrific.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Oh, they wanted the kid that was drafted by Carolina
after Jerry said, I'm sad I didn't get him.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Well the way they used him at the one. I
may also wanted Derek Henry, but you know it was
too expensive. Oh it's too expensive. I mean he could
have had a bake sale. Didn't bad job. Bo Nix
isn't celebrating how they give you Alan the Bultimore. But
I'm telling you, man, you want to know the real
thing to worry about. The about Aaron Rodgers and the
Jet Saxon, it's not anything with Yeah, no, when it
comes to can he really be that guy? Still? This
(27:43):
is four games of I don't know, we had one
game like, al right, he's getting back to himself. But
this is a reality. Yeah, this is where where physically
whoa you need to be able to do more if
you're and I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
You can know it's gonna be a tough run. And
now you get Brian Flores makes him try to move laterally.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
And I think the NFL is happy they gave this
game to uh London.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Or was this gonna be game? Oh, we would put
this on at four o'clock. Yeah, across the country, prime time.
That the blank Darnold.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Versus the Jets and Aaron Rodgers, I will so Gardner
versus Justin Jefferson. No, no, it's gonna be on at sixteen.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Secondly, pull up lame like JayR Alexander did this week.
I do have to ask this question or make this
statement for you. At least you have three more games
of the Mets.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Like I said, the Jets game feels like it was
months ago because the Mets won today. If the Brewers
winning two, that there winning. We're playing with found money man,
found side. You can't do that the money man. No,
this was this is a gap year for the Mets.
Were hoping to contend this year while they're paying off
(28:46):
Erlander and and no, no, no, this was just a
coping stop. This is a gap year for the Mets
who signed a bunch of one year guys. They wound
up sixteen games over five hundred, they made the playoffs.
They're still using this year to pay off Verlander and Scherzer. Okay,
if David Stern doesn't win Executive of the Year in
Major League Baseball, I don't know what else you need,
(29:06):
because this is we have a bunch of guys and
we're sixteen games over five hundred, and that's how good
we are. We're not even we didn't even go for
it this year, and look at us in the playoffs.
Found money, man, found money. But don't believe me because
Steve de Sager has details on the Mets win and
the other minor stories in sports tonight.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Stevo, he has two minor NFL games tonight that was
a thriller. The game won of this makeup doubleheader and
the regular season at Atlanta, the Mets one to earn
a playoff fir us and they'll play at Milwaukee tomorrow.
And the Mets were down three to nothing in the eighth,
scored six times in the top of the eighth, then
allowed for in the bottom of the eighth, and still
(29:44):
Edwin Diez, who threw forty pitches, gets credit for the
win as Francisco Lindor hit a two run homer top
of the.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Ninth eight to seven Mets. The final won the game.
You don't say gets credit for the win, like he
didn't deserve it, like he forgot to cover first base
on a grounder that could have ended the all.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
What I mean, so often when the closer gets a win,
it's they don't.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But if he doesn't give up the runs and give
up the lead, maybe Lindor doesn't hit the home run
in the ninth inning, so maybe we didn't get that yeah,
And then maybe.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
He doesn't say to his manager, I'm the boss around here.
I'm going back to the mound whether.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You like it or not.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Then maybe we don't get that horrible call of the
home runs. Sometimes the good manager is listening to your players.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
These two teams had identical records going into this finale.
Today eighty eight and seventy two makeup games after last
week's storm. Braves and Mets both owned tiebreakers over Arizona.
Arizona was eliminated after the game two. Braves win Atlanta
is in three nothing the final in game two over
the Mets tomorrow night, the Braves start a best of
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three in San Diego Braves pitcher Chris Sale was scratched
due to backspasms, So the guy who went eighteen and
three best dra also in the Major League's two point
three eight He's likely out this week. The Wildcard playoffs
start tomorrow. It'll be the October first. The four game
ones of the best of three series are in order
Detroit at Houston, Kansas City at Baltimore, tomorrow, Mets at Milwaukee,
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and the late game Atlanta at San Diego. The San
Francisco Giants fired team president far Anxiety, replaceding him with
Buster Posey, who's now a part owner there and Cincinnati
Red's legend. Pete Rose passed away at the age of
eighty three. Died today at his home in Las Vegas.
He was an All Star seventeen times. He was banned
from baseball in nineteen eighty nine for betting on games.
(31:31):
Roses career batting average was three h three. He played
in twenty four seasons, had over four thousand, two hundred hits.
Rose had the most at bats and most games played.
Basketball Hall of Famer de Kembe Matumbo died of brain cancer.
He was fifty eight. An eight time All Star Matumbo
was the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year four times.
He was also known for his charitable work. Most NBA
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training camps open Tuesday media Days were today. The WNBA
Playoffs best of five semifinals continued to they started yesterday,
as New York defeated Las Vegas and Connecticut won at Minnesota.
There's a college football game Friday nights on Fox TV
number six Oregon host Michigan State, and on FS one
Friday Night number twenty five, UNLV host Syracuse, Vegas, four
(32:15):
and oh For the first time in its Division one history,
it is ranked for the first time ever tied for
twenty fifth in the NFL. Two games tonight, Tennessee was
a thirty one to twelve winner at Miami. Nick Folk
five for five on field goals, including hitting from fifty
one to fifty two and fifty three yards out. Titans
quarterback Will Levis left early with a shoulder injury. Mason
Rudolph played the rest of the game. Devon ah Chan
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and the lost ten carries fifteen yards rushing and quarterback
Tyler Huntley. He was the guy from Miami tonight one touchdown, run,
one fumble, one safety, only ninety six yards passing, while
the Dolphins had ninety eight yards on their ten penalties.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Detroit at home say won safety like it was a
good thing. It wasn't. Neither had a safety. Neither stood
after the fumble.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Detroit beat Seattle forty two to twenty nine, each team
three and one. Jared Goff a perfect eighteen of eighteen,
a record two hundred ninety two yards, two touchdowns and
a t D reception. Detroit's offense went five for five
on red zone touchdown didn't even get a game ball
Steve and got no game ball from his coach. As
we heard last hour. Jamiir Gibbs two touchdown runs. He
had fourteen carries seventy eight yards in the lost DK
(33:24):
Metcalf seven receptions one hundred and four yards, one fumble.
That is not good back to you.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
That's like in the Simpsons when Daryl Strawberry was hitting
and mister Burne says.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Sit down, Strawberry, I have a pin shitted for you.
But coach, I got nine home runs today, well, and
it was a good big day for you. Like that's
Dan Campbell coach. He didn't give a game ball to
Jared Goff, he was eighteen out of eighteen fronts had
a perfect quarterback ranting, oh I didn't know that. Sorry,
come out, he caught a touchdown pass.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Make bad, guys, My bad guys. I'm sorry, Camble wasn't
a rush to get to applebeet?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
What are the rarities where he caught the touchdown pass
from a guy through a touchdown pass two in the
same game.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Apparently that parently that takes you away from getting a
perfect quarterback rating. Coming up next, Yes, we will examine
a night of near perfection in football. That's the next ridio.
Jason to Mike, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (34:23):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.
Well he's my best friend. His name is Mike Harmon.
There you go, it's pretty well done. Now your best
friend was Francisco Lindora. Oh yeah, sorry, Francisco Lindor is
my best friend at least for the day. Look, I'll
fall to the wayside. That's fine. Now, look before we
get into the record breaking night to night on Monday Night,
(34:44):
football there's a commercial that has been airing that has
you a little bit perturbed.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Well, it's it's raised up the old question of you
know the walls listen right, the walls have ears, and
we get we say a lot of things on the
show that get activated elsewhere. Yeah, So there's been a
commercial running tonight. They've been in parallel, so there's a
straight one, and then there's the Venom the Last Dance, which.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Suddenly has Dak Prescott running around in whoa, whoa really yeah, whoa?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
All of a sudden he's riding on the Venom horse
and all that crap that's in the in the commercial, Like,
wait a minute, what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Jerry, don't give Dak Prescott that money? Let me eat
his head instead. No, nope, gotta pay him. Sorry. I
held off as long as it could, but I'm more
powerful than you, so I'm gonna give Dak the money.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
So we did the Venom Jerry Jones thing about a
month ago, and all of a sudden, we're watching Monday
night football here and I'm the monitor, like, all right,
there's a Venom commercial. The hell's Dak Prescott doing it?
And it just doesn't nerve me. I'm like, you know,
you think you're seeing things right, checking my blood sugars,
making sure you know I'm doing okay here, all right,
(35:58):
take you on the medicaid and whatever. And then it
airs again. They're like, no, I wasn't seeing a thing.
There he is. There's Dan Prescott in the middle of
a Venom commercial. So yeah, that unnerved me. The other
thing to interminded, like, we've done a lot of talking
about Pete Rush. Remember that he is a member of
one very prestigious hall of fame that doesn't have a
physical place. In two thousand and four he was inducted
(36:22):
into the WWE.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Hall of Fame. Oh then I do remember that he
was a ww Hall of Famer. You're right right. He
had a long running story with Cain. My god, it's kick.
So there you go. So there's your two tidbits. Tonight
on Monday Night football, we watched an incredible night by
Jared goff right eighteen out of eighteen, two hundred and
ninety two yards, couple of touchdowns and he caught a
touch He was fantastic. Somehow his quarterback rating is not
(36:48):
a perfect rating, which I failed to understand. How I've
seen games where quarterbacks have thrown at least four or
five incomplete passes and they get a perfect quarterback rating, right,
And I get that throwing for touchdowns is a big deal,
but he threw for two. He threw for nearly threef
It wasn't eighteen out of eighteen for one hundred and
fifty yards. This is nearly three hundred yards, two touchdowns,
(37:09):
He caught a touchdown. What else does he need to do?
Three other touchdown? Drive? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Two early touchdowns by Montgomery or right, yeah, Montgomery has
two and Gibbs finds the end zone as well.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, like, what are we doing? I don't understand how
that's the case. I really don't does How does he
not get a perfect quarterback? Right? We don't get perfect
quarterback ratings all that often, but how do we not
get a perfect one eighteen out of eighteen? The guy
was unstoppable. I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah, it's insane, conflated. Gibbs got the second touchdown, right,
he's got seventy eight and two. Montgomery forty and one
also had the big catch. But you know what, we
talk about these the formula, and if you actually go
and look at it, it's like here it is, but
the fact that touchdowns per possession becomes a deciding factor
(37:55):
versus zero in complete fasses and about his clean and
offensive games.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
You can possibly put together from a team. So we're
gonna take the things that you can't control and may
get worth more than the things you can control with
just throwing it in completely. I mean, does he lose
points for the sack? He took three sacks like you
got sacked. Sorry, we're gonna tell.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Me that, you know what, you should have thrown the
ball away and when it ruined your completion percentage and
well the negligible effect.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
But the good news for the Lions is this, right now,
the three best teams in the NFC are the Lions,
the Bucks and the Vikings. Just like we drew it
up beginning of the season. Don't forget about those Commanders.
Look Commanders a night. Nice starts story. It's a nice story.
But the Lions are even better than they were a
year ago. All the defensive issues they have, they have
(38:43):
solved them right. We talked to Kirby Joseph on the
show tonight. A great phenomenal interception, one of the best
young DB's in the game. They have solved all their problems.
They are better than they were a year ago. If
I had have confidence in one team, if you're playing
the NFC championship game right now, who would win that game?
I'd give you the Lions because the Vikings are a
great nice story. Are they still going to be this
(39:04):
good as the season gets on? Is Sam Darnold's still
gonna be this good? Tampa Bay can't really run the
football big that they're really good. You know how much
I love Tampa Bay. But the Lions are a complete team.
They're an absolute complete team. And their offense is so
much better than everybody else's that you know, playing against
a team like the Vikings has the best defense in
the NFL, that's gonna I can't wait for that game.
(39:25):
But boy, give me the give me the Lions and
that because they have the best offense, and I know
their defense can control games like they have. They're a
big bend. But don't break defense where we need to
keep you out of the ends, and we will do so.
I mean, you look at the three best teams in
the NFC, the Lions are at the top. Who knew? Yeah,
I give Seattle much credit.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I mean they didn't put up five hundred and sixteen
yards in total offense. Gino was near to four hundred
through the air and DK Metcalf has been fantastic. There
was a play on the two point conversion that maybe
they got screwed on, but hey, why we have to
talk about officiating everywhere but you're the flag. But for
the Lions, I mean, Ben Johnson said, hey, we're gonna
(40:03):
break out eventually after those early red zone woes, and
they sure as held in tonight.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
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big night in the NFL coming up in a bit,
including the biggest question coming off of the Lion's huge
win and Jared Goff's night of nights that he had tonight. Boy,
But you know today we lost a couple of legends today.
We talked last hour about to Kem Bamtumbo, who passed
away at the age of fifty eight. Brain cancer. And
then right after the Mets game against the Braves today
(01:13):
they closed the double header, the news breaks to Pete
Rose died at the age of eighty three. There is
no details right now is for the cause of death.
Apparently he was found by a family friend or a friend.
Foul plays not not suspected, but Pete Rose was eighty
(01:33):
three years old. And Rick Flair tweeted out that he
was signing autographs with Pete Rose yesterday, so that was something. So,
you know, this is unexpected. Maybe a heart attack for
Pete Rose, you know, who knows, but you know, Pete
was still active even up until a day ago. And
you know, a couple of weird things about this is
(01:53):
that you want to talk about something where where it
was just really awkward following the Mets game against the Braves. Right,
we'll get to Pete. We'll get to the big question
about Pete Rose in a second. Is following the game.
The game ends, and as I'm following U stuff on
Twitter and I'm tweeting out about the Mets and it's
so exciting, it comes up, boom, Pete Rose dies, Like,
(02:14):
oh my god, Pete Rose just died. Oh my god,
Pete and I tell Pama, it just happened like three
minutes ago, and ESPN is finishing, they're broadcast of the
game and Sports Center is started. You know, so they
have the teas coming out. You know, hey, we have that.
We have uh, you know coming up. We're gonna dug
the life into kempe Matumba. We have this game to
(02:35):
get to. We have Monday night football to talk about.
They get everything planned out for their show and uh,
they're interviewing the guys on the set following the game
and you know, just expecting to find digging. They're gonna
finish up talking about the Mets Brays and they're gonna
throw back. And I think Jay Harris was interviewing at
Wardo Perez and Warto Perez just at the end, just hey, guys,
(02:56):
I want to stop a second and say something that
we just found out. My dad just called me Tony Perez.
My dad just called me. Pete Rose died at the
age of eighty three. And I'm sitting here watching going
knowing how sports television works, I'm like, there is no
way ESPN wanted him to mention that, right, there is
there is no way because they want to be able
to break the news. They want to be able to
say we have something here, because there's nothing right. It
(03:18):
just happened, like right when the changeover of the game
to the show happens. Okay, Pete Rose died. We'll get
to it here, we'll mention it and we'll tease it
coming up, we'll talk about him, we'll run his oh
bit package everything else. And when it wardo Perez wanted
to talk about it, and he says it, and I'm
saying to myself, there is no way he is because
then they didn't mention it right, because then they went
on and did me Tumbo and the other things had
(03:39):
nothing ready on you. I'm because now you mentioned this
and everybody is going, why aren't you talking about Pete Rose? Oh?
How are you not talking about Pete Rose? This is amazing.
And like ESPN, they're doing there because they have time
set up to go to site to talk about the
Monday night games. They have the Keni Tumbo package ready
to go. They have this and I'm gonna I'm just watching,
(03:59):
going ooh. There is no way they wanted him to
say that. There is just no way they wanted him
to break that news. Right there and throw it back
and I'm looking at Jay Harrison. He's just stonefaced the
whole time, and I'm going, Okay, oh boy, what do
they do now? And what are they gonna do? Right? Yes,
you know, thanks appreciate it. You know, now, now this
and now, because now that's a thing, and you know
(04:20):
the crazy I say crazy a lot. But the one
of the things I thought about there was sometimes the
change in sports television over the last few years, and
that this is something that you have to be able
to roll with. You have to be able to adjust
and go to and say, if Pete Rose dies, hey,
(04:42):
guess what, guys, you got to talk about Pete Rose
for a couple seconds. This is what you get paid
for up on that desk to talk about Pete Rose.
Because I watched him talk about Matumbo and stuff they
could say. You know, they both talked about Tumbo's legacy,
and they talked about in some of their great moments.
You got to be able to go and talk about
Pete Rose like that's become the story. And because it's
so regimented, there was no way to do it. And
(05:04):
I'm like, this is a time, this is a time
when like for you and I we do for a living,
Like if I'm on that set, Hey, Jason, oh my god,
Pete Rose just died three minutes ago. Cool, I got it.
Don't worry about it. I got it. We got it,
I got it. We're all good. I'll talk about Pete Rose.
I got it, I got it. This is yeah. I
don't worry about it. Whenever you want to talk figure
stuff out, we'll talk about it. I could talk about
Pete Rose for a half hour, okay, just because you
(05:25):
need to know stuff like that. But the fact that
that was just so different, because Sports Center is so different,
so regimented, like there was no way to get into it,
you know. And I know that you need TV, you
need graphics built and everything else, but hey, how much
have we seen debate shows? We're just people talking, right, Like,
you got to be able to go to that.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean, you can fill a buster for a couple
of minutes while they get it. You got to be
able to go to that shore up with the dates
and whatever. You know, you got to get Jeff Passing
on the phone. You gotta get so you gotta I mean,
you have to be able to say we're doing this
right now, just see that they want like Jeff Passing
and somebody else take over for really, you could do NFL,
(06:02):
you do multiple sports. That is the We've looked into
the contract and we can make you do multiple sports
instead of hiring shit.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We don't have another guy. And though it's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Money, so it tells you that Lebron said they can't
have Wendy. People do other things.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
People. People aren't happy at the money we gave Pat McAfee.
So if we give another guy a lot of money,
that's gonna really tough. Hey, hey, can you guys kind
of split the job.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, because they're also still negotiating with the leader of
the pack, you know, good old Steven Ay.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
But yeah, I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I pride, you know, we do I think a lot
of this radio part of the media world very well
in terms of reacting to breaking stories, reacting to games
first blush and big stories like that. I think we
do that as well or better than anyone you're gonna find.
And it's one of the things I pride, you know,
(06:53):
ride myself on and the ability to go into the
way back machine, grab some of this and just get
to talking. Well, hey, you can get a video package,
a highlight package whenever you need to.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Eventually you got to be able to speak to it.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But yeah, just confirm that it was a big trading
card show in Nashville where they had the big Herd
machine What's Left was back together Rick Flair and a
bunch of wrestlers on hand as well Sting and Jerry
the King Lawler and all those things.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So yeah, big weekend there. Now, as far as Pete goes,
the last few years of his life would be a
lot different. And were it not for the scandal that
broke a few years ago when he was doing TV
for Fox, when he had kind of hit the next
(07:44):
I don't want to say, I don't want to say
people had forgotten about it, but embracing Pete Rose was okay, right.
Fox put him on TV and the Baseball Show with
he and a Rod and Frank Thomas. It was an
amazing show because.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
It was talking about baseball. And if there's anything I mean,
you've talked to Pete Rose on your shows, I've talked
to Pete Rose in the past.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
He was honest.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
He asked an opinion about a player, he'd tell you
what was wrong with his swing or oh things had
gone sideways sometimes add a little editorial that maybe he
didn't expect no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Pete says that he was a brutally honest guy, and
I could watch him and a Rod talk about hitting forever.
It was such a great it was such a great thing.
That was a show on the rise. And then it
comes out that Pete was involved in a bit of
a scale I'd say a bit of a scandal, because
it was something that was kept hush hush for a
long time that when he was thirty four in the
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mid seventies, he was dating an underage girl who was
around sixteen years old. Now, this came up a few
years ago as a result of a conversation that somebody
else was having on a podcast where yeah, Pete was
dating a fifteen sixteen year old girl. Pete Rose tried
to sue the guy, and this story gets out there.
When he was thirty four, he was dating a girl
(09:00):
that was around sixteen. Now, there was a discrepancy as
to how old she was. Some report said she was
fifteen or sixteen, some reports said it was sixteen. Pete
acknowledge a relationship, but after that, like you know, you
can't have a guy on TV. After that. It was tough,
you know. He couldn't just say we're gonna have Pete
Rose out of here when this here's a story where you're
thirty four, you're taking a sixteen year old girl. Yeah, sorry, dude.
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So they took Pete Rose off the air and that
was and Pete was done doing anything media wise after that.
If that scandal had not come up, and Pete Rose's
life was about just the gambling band, he would have
been in the Hall of Fame sometime in the last
few years. Because the line between hey, gambling bad in sports,
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that's gotten blurred so much because now sports embrace gambling
and NFL embraces gambling, and now the attitudes towards gambling
are much different than when Pete got his lifetime ban
in eight nineteen eighty nine. All Right, Pete Rose, who
gambled on baseball when he played, when he was a manager,
that was the worst thing you could do. And I
get that Pete Rose was banned, But the last few years,
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like gambling, Okay, it's not that big a deal. Guys
break the rules and gamble in NFL, they get a
year suspension. So the fact that we had come around
to it now gambling was more accepted. I'm pretty sure
that it would have been. You know what, Pete's done
his time there. I don't think you would have had
a huge opposition to say, oh, Pete Rose Hall of Famer. Yeah,
it's time to let him in. Pete's done the time.
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He's been out of the game for thirty five years,
but he still does appearances for the game, still did
everything he could to promote the game of baseball. He
loved baseball. Yeah, we can let Pete it. And I
get that it was a bad thing, and you had
the ad, the Giamatti and the Vincent and Bud Selig
who supposedly, you know, they were carrying this on. But
you know, it's in the twenty twenties. The world is
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not what it was in nineteen ninety. So I really
do think that if if it was just about this,
the betting scandal, he would have been allowed back, and
that he would have been allowed in the Hall of
Fame a couple of years ago, and he would have
had that in the last couple of years. And for
someone who made his whole life about hey, I'm the
best player, I'm not in the Hall of Fame. He
would have given all that back in a second to
be a Hall of Famer, like he wanted to do that.
(11:11):
But when that scandal came up about about in the seventies,
like that was it like there was like, okay, now
we're not in the Pete Rose business anymore. And and
that's what put a final, final no on that and
closed that door forever. Yeah, I mean, he never got
to be on the ballot.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Would have been interesting to see what that vote would
have turned out, as I mean, because certainly still a
lot of strong thoughts on it. It is the League
rule twenty one prohibitive from placing wagers, even legal bets
on baseball, and from wagering with the legal and offshore bookmaker.
So all of that is still on the books. So
you know, there's still gonna be some percentage that would
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say he doesn't get in. And the deal with a
Bartlett Gmatti as a lifetime ban, there was always wondering
how long a lifetime ban would have been if Giamatti
hadn't died so quickly there after. As you say, it
became a legacy thing from commissioner to commissioner. It's like, Wow,
that's what he agreed to, and that's what they laid out.
(12:08):
So yeah, it's the curiosity because certainly that rule is
still in place, right that that ban is still there,
And you've got other leagues that have different rules and punishments,
et cetera, but for baseball, that still remains the standard.
Now he's represented in Cooperstown, plenty of artifacts, the hit
from forty two to fifty, the bat from forty two
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to fifty six, a bunch of baseball's, all those things.
And that's where it always gets to the tough argument
for me, because in the end, it's a museum, right,
it's a museum and the game went on. Did any
long standing damage come from him?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
When you look at you know, the whole steroid era,
I mean, it's been fairly arbitrary about who's been kept in,
who's been allowed in, and who's been kept out, whether
you liked the guy or not. And you know, you
didn't have to have a positive test or even even
court battles. For some guys, it was just like now
you're out, and you you were nice to us, so
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we'll let you in. So I I've always had an
issue with that and the presumption of innocence of anybody
during that fifteen to twenty years is always foolhardy, at
least from where I sit. But for Pete Rose May,
you're talking about a guy who paid a thirty six
year penalty for this infraction however long, and they had
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the receipts, so I guess they'd have to decide where
it began and ended. But for him, I think that
you know, he never got the the embrace, never got
to do the speech, but he lost out on thirty
six years of revenue, which I think cheezed him off
as much as anything that he couldn't when he signed
a multiplayer item, couldn't put the hof next to the
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other guys from the big Red Machine and all the
money and adoration that went with it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
But I think, I think you'll Pete still made money.
You know, he was a guy assigning autographs all the time,
every day, But he would have given that up to
be a Hall of Famer like he wanted that next
to because look the way he played the game. I
slide head first because of Pete Rose I mean, I
don't slide. I can't believe as recklessly as he's like
he would. He would run and leap in the air
and slide. I'm like, oh my god, I can't do that.
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But I could. I could slide at first. Oh. I
used to slide head first and softful all the time. Really,
I told all the girls, like I coached, slide head first,
but not into home. And then girls would slide at
home because they would fall in love with like, don't
slide into home, play dead first. Everyone else, slide head
first and get you there fast.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Now catchers can't cover the plate anymore, so I mean,
but you don't want them to.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I don't want them to hit their head on somebody's
shin guard because someone's you know, the the in youth sports,
it's it's more of a I just don't want the
catcher to be standing there, you know, and have her
and have her shin guard in the wrong place. You
slide and hit your head. But but I mean, look
the way, as hard as he played the game, as
much as he loved the game, Uh yeah, he would have.
He would have given everything up to have that hof
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next with it. I think you could have said him
to take away all your money. But you're in the
Hall of Fames. Olkama Hall of Famer, Like, that's how
much he That's how much he wanted to get in,
because that was the way he played. Oh you like money, well,
but you realize that your life changes when suddenly you're
not a hall all right, how do I continue to
how do I push this forward? Okay, I'm the guy
not in the Hall of Fame and now I'm here
with Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
The worst was he could go and he could work
with guys off the field and everything else, but couldn't
actually become a hitting coach or anything either. So he
couldn't officially be part of the game that way. And
I think that was the bigger, bigger thing because he
knew how he could fix guys left and right.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen down. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon coming up next.
We had an absolute record setting performance on Monday Night football,
and I wonder why it wasn't better. That's next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I was a lot more miserable until the Mets one today.
Then it was okay, chet Joe, that's one, and I
didn't care the game.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
But then they had the opportunity to send the Braves
to their death or what did they do? They surrendered
total insanity, Oh man, insanity.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I was fed then. I mean today I rode the
lightning for I can't tell you what that eighth the
ninth inning was like, for Oh, we're gonna lose this
game three nothing, nope, we're winning six three nope. Now
we're losing seven six, Nope, we're winning eight seven. I mean,
it was years off my life today. Years.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, final two innings was insane, right, years innings one
through seven you were going quietly into the good night. Yeah,
it's a final.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, we're making Schwellenbach look like Greg Maddox. Okay, great,
and he's so defiant on the mount. Oh, he feels
his position. And I'm listening to ESPN announcers fawning over
the Braves like, oh the braid, and then couldn't get it,
couldn't get out of the eighth six runs, lose eight seven.
Do you always think the announcers are against you? Of course? Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Like everything of vocal inflection is dig get the guy
out a frog in his throat or no, he's just
giving you the dramatic ending to like say newspiece or something.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
No, I'll say that because I don't think I think
Aaron Rodgers gets the benefit of the doubt and a lot.
The first four games this year, they really have given
him the benefit of everything else. Oh yeah, everybody, they
all hate my teams. All the announces, they all hate
my teams. It's real, it happens.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I hate my teams, but I don't know they they
became a bunch of sycophantic fan boys for the Knicks
last year.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well the Knicks are great.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
No, no, no, but they like they got nauseating.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Uh. Before we get to Jared Goff, it's a little
bit on Aaron Rodgers. She brought up, Aaron Rodgers the
biggest debate of the day today. You brought up with you,
said Aaron Rodgers. Uh, this crazy ass debate today that
everybody he wants to focus on the wrong thing. Right,
I'll tell you about the Jets, the Cadence gate. Right
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following the game yesterday, the Jets lose an embarrassing game
to the Broncos and I hated football after that game.
An embarrassing game. And you can see that Robert Sala
and Aaron Rodgers don't have the best relationship. They're not
on the same page. Because Robert Sala said, hey, we
had a bit of a cadence issue because the Jets
were called for false starts four times. Breese Hall was
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called for false start twice, and Aaron Rodgers was asked
about that and he said, now, I don't think we
have a cadence issue. We've been doing this for the
entire preseason accountability. And then today Robert Sala kind of
backed off that a little bit. Oh suddenly there's a problem.
It's Robert Sala's fault. The Jets stink and they don't
get along, and this is awful for Aaron time. Everybody,
you're missing the samir, You're missing the point of the exercise.
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Number one, Robert Sala is a bad head coach. I've
told you this many times. He's not a good head coach.
He is a great defensive coordinator and he motivates the team,
but offensive, do you really think he's involved with the
game plan? Do you really think he's calling the plays.
You really think, No, he's not. He's the zero, he's
zero involved. Do you think he and Aaron Rodgers even speak. No,
they probably don't. Let yesterday's games because the offense stunk.
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You want to know the real thing, This is the
real thing to take away from that. It's not about
Salah versus Aaron Rodgers and everything else. Because we've watched
Aaron Rodgers succeed with coaches. He's not crazy about. For gms,
he's not crazy about We've seen it. But the Jets
offense looked awful yesterday. And you know why because I
am really worried about Aaron Rodgers. Now four games in,
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as good as he looked on Thursday night, there were
still some things where we talked about. I said, boy,
I really don't know if he can throw deep. That's
a big thing. But after yesterday, four games, now, I
can tell you this about Aaron Rodgers. He is skittish
when he drops back to pass. Whether that is an
injury thing or a mental hurdle to the injury, he
is skittish when he goes back to pass. He throws
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the ball early when the play is designed to throw
the ball after a couple steps. And he throws early
when he feels either pressure around him or thinks he
should be throwing it early. The last possession of the
Jets game, Yesterda when he had a chance to drive down
and and and Zerlin missed the field goal. Rodgers is awful.
He throws three passes before the receiver even turns around.
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Why because the possession before he got crunched on a
third down sack. He kind of limped off the field.
And what do we see. He looked terrible. He looked
like a guy that was that that was looking around
for a defender to hit him every single play. And
the and the Broncos like to blitz. The Broncos defense
is a lot better than people want to give it
credit for. And Aaron Rodgers looks skittish. He looks skittish.
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He throws the ball early. And the biggest thing is,
I don't know that he can throw the ball downfield anymore.
And for a guy that always used to look downfield,
that never used to du dump the ball off to
his running backs, he was always like that. When they
say about the animals eyes in front and there for
the hunt like eyes to the side and they're and
they're you know, they're not animals that want to go
out and try to They don't have prey. Like Aaron
Rodgers always eyes in the front, he was always looking downfield.
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How can I get chunk yardage? How can I get
as many yards account of this play? And now he's
throwing the ball and his running backs a third of
the time, and I don't know that he can throw
the ball with any accuracy more than twenty yards downfield
when he gets a clean pocket. The very few times
to get a clean pocket, he'll try, but he'll only
throw the ball about fifteen yards. Like he's got the
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chance to throw the ball deep downfield, but either the
play is not called for it or he doesn't do it.
But for four games now, I don't know that he
can throw the ball downfield because he just hasn't done it.
And this has gone past the part where well the
section of the game called for this kind of play,
which is why I say, hey, I don't know what
he's got a clean pocket, what the long ball situation
is like. But through four games now, I know he
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can't throw the ball deep downfield because he hasn't done it.
He would have done it at least a couple of times.
Try to throw a jump ball from Mike Williams or
Garrett Wilson or something to try to get those guys
involved more. But he hasn't done it, so I know
watching him, he still can make some throws that I
don't know anybody in the NFL can make. When he's
running to the right and he turns around, throws back
across his body, hit a guy and straw ten yards downfield,
middle of the field. Yeah, he could do that, but
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he throws so quickly. He throws more pronounced off his
back foot now, and he used to do that a
lot with with Green Bay, but it's much more pronounced now.
But I don't know that he's got the arm strength
that he used to have when he could do that
with success in Green Bay. Whether it's because he's forty
or he's still building back up after a year being away.
But I gotta think by now, after a full summer
of throwing the football in four weeks, he's gonna he's
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gonna throw this is about as strong as his arm
is gonna get. Right, He's gonna be back to a
close to alarm strength as he can, and he simply
can't throw the ball downfield. That's the big worry. This
is what makes me think I got to rethink everything
I thought the Jets could do this year, because if
he's skittish and he throws the ball early because he's
skittish and he can't throw it downfield, which maybe why
he throws the ball early, then we're in for a
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load of hurt and it's gonna be a long ass
season because I don't know that he can do any
of those things well. I mean, before the season he began,
we talked a lot about whether the offensive line was
gonna be good enough to make him feel that stability
early while his body caught up to game speed, et cetera.
I mean, when he got hit and went off the field,
Tell me you didn't think there was something more nefarious
(23:07):
at play after that hit. Now they say he avoided
anything serious and he'll be ready to go, But you're
still in that feeling out process. Because while he danced
and did a pretty good job, and we talked about
it the night of the win over the Patriots, he
didn't face a lot of big pressure in terms of physicality, right,
he didn't take his WWE style bump in that game
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he did this time. The other is and this is
a larger question.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And look, I respect the talent that Garrett Wilson is.
Is he giving you enough to where he's a number
one and making himself available so Aaron Rodgers can take
the shot because we know Mike Williams just rounding himself
back into shape, right, So that's one of those things.
The fact that he was more involved this week could sign.
And that's a big physical receip that can win one
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on one battle.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I can jump off. Yeah, so if he can get downfield.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
That's one thing we saw during his tenure with the
Chargers is that you could put it up for grabs
when he was available, and he'd make a play and
go get it for you. For Garrett Wilson at this point,
it's been a lot of dump offs and then hopefully
some yak as opposed to all right, take your fifteen
twenty yard route and try to make a play. I
don't know how much of that is arm versus you know,
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just not setting the same way.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Why. Well, for Wilson, I don't know that. I don't
know that he's a guy that's good close to the
line of scrimmage. He needs a little bit of room
to operate to gain separation. I know, because when they
try to throw to him, I mean always getting locked
up by defender. Yeah. Well, because Rogers is taking two
steps and thrown on the football, right, there's no separation
at that point, right. He needs a little bit more
downfit because I've seen him get separation for It's not
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like he's forty years old he can't do it anymore.
I've seen him get big time separation for DB's and
have big long plays for touchdowns. But when Rogers throwing
the football as fast as he is, no, he doesn't
have the separation. So it seems like Wilson is not
having that great a year and not being able to
get any separation. But the truth is, well, when you
have to make the play in less than two and
a half seconds, no, you're not gonna have the separation.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
The other is, I mean he's gonna draw any safety help.
And we had the chronicle. Everybody wants to outlaw the
type of defenses that are getting run and Wilson's gonna
get the bulk of that. So you know, do you
trust yourself? And is Rogers gonna put the ball potentially
into Harm's way. Generally, that's not a thing he's gonna do,
which means that's gonna negate some of the downfield potential
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opportunities for Wilson as well.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And look at the guys who are catching, Like when
Williams is just coming in, he and he's catching the
ball when they throw it up to him. He's got
some big catches. Lizard, Yes, he's got the relationship, but
Lizzard is a good physical receiver who uses his body
to shield the dB from the ball. His window of
getting open is a little bit different. When you're physical
and can do that, you're gonna get the ball. Garrett
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Wilson's not that kind of guy. Yes, he can win
physical battles again the ball, but he's not physically dominant.
And so you see why the ball like al Izard
was catching all the passes yesterday because he he's the
guy one on one coverage. I can get it to him.
I can do that. But the Jets have a lot
of problems, man, And it's not just about Rogers and Solo.
This is physically what did I tell you? From the
beginning of the year, the Jets are asking Aaron Rodgers
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to come in and say, solve all our problems. Solve
all our problems are are are in lack of our
belief in the head coach. The questions into what kind
of team the gm IS has put in four how
good our offensive line is? Solve all of these problems
for us? And what I'm seeing over the first four
weeks is I don't know that he can solve those
problems because I don't know what he can do for
himself yet. But he could have the ball. He's not.
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They did. They did give him the ball. I know
what I mean. Listen, they gave Breese Hall the ball
nine times he had eleven yards. Braylan Allen, who's a
much more physical running back, David too, eight times he
had fifty yards rushing. That's going to be a time
share soon anyway. If your offensive line is having trouble,
but you can't tell me they're not opening holes. If
one running back is running the same kind of plays
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and he's averaging six yards of carry the other guy's
averaging two yards of carry, what does that tell you? Okay,
one guy's got to get the one guy act. I mean,
Brelan Allen. Look, I'll tell you right now, and for
fantasy fantasy players, he's gonna be Derrick Henry. He's twenty
years old and he is such a huge physical kid.
He is incredibly talented. I don't know why teams didn't
get him. The Cowboys now are saying, why did we
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get Braylan Allen? This kid is terrific.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Oh, they wanted the kid that was drafted by Carolina
after Jerry said, I'm sad I didn't get him.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Well the way they used him at the one. I
may also wanted Derek Henry, but you know it was
too expensive. Oh it's too expensive. I mean he could
have had a bake sale. Didn't bad job. Bo Nix
isn't celebrating how they give you Alan the Bultimore. But
I'm telling you, man, you want to know the real
thing to worry about. The about Aaron Rodgers and the
Jet Saxon, it's not anything with Yeah, no, when it
comes to can he really be that guy? Still? This
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is four games of I don't know, we had one
game like, al right, he's getting back to himself. But
this is a reality. Yeah, this is where where physically
whoa you need to be able to do more if
you're and I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
You can know it's gonna be a tough run. And
now you get Brian Flores makes him try to move laterally.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
And I think the NFL is happy they gave this
game to uh London.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Or was this gonna be game? Oh, we would put
this on at four o'clock. Yeah, across the country, prime time.
That the blank Darnold.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Versus the Jets and Aaron Rodgers, I will so Gardner
versus Justin Jefferson. No, no, it's gonna be on at sixteen.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Secondly, pull up lame like JayR Alexander did this week.
I do have to ask this question or make this
statement for you. At least you have three more games
of the Mets.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Like I said, the Jets game feels like it was
months ago because the Mets won today. If the Brewers
winning two, that there winning. We're playing with found money man,
found side. You can't do that the money man. No,
this was this is a gap year for the Mets.
Were hoping to contend this year while they're paying off
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Erlander and and no, no, no, this was just a
coping stop. This is a gap year for the Mets
who signed a bunch of one year guys. They wound
up sixteen games over five hundred, they made the playoffs.
They're still using this year to pay off Verlander and Scherzer. Okay,
if David Stern doesn't win Executive of the Year in
Major League Baseball, I don't know what else you need,
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because this is we have a bunch of guys and
we're sixteen games over five hundred, and that's how good
we are. We're not even we didn't even go for
it this year, and look at us in the playoffs.
Found money, man, found money. But don't believe me because
Steve de Sager has details on the Mets win and
the other minor stories in sports tonight.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Stevo, he has two minor NFL games tonight that was
a thriller. The game won of this makeup doubleheader and
the regular season at Atlanta, the Mets one to earn
a playoff fir us and they'll play at Milwaukee tomorrow.
And the Mets were down three to nothing in the eighth,
scored six times in the top of the eighth, then
allowed for in the bottom of the eighth, and still
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Edwin Diez, who threw forty pitches, gets credit for the
win as Francisco Lindor hit a two run homer top
of the.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Ninth eight to seven Mets. The final won the game.
You don't say gets credit for the win, like he
didn't deserve it, like he forgot to cover first base
on a grounder that could have ended the all.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
What I mean, so often when the closer gets a win,
it's they don't.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But if he doesn't give up the runs and give
up the lead, maybe Lindor doesn't hit the home run
in the ninth inning, so maybe we didn't get that yeah,
And then maybe.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
He doesn't say to his manager, I'm the boss around here.
I'm going back to the mound whether.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You like it or not.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Then maybe we don't get that horrible call of the
home runs. Sometimes the good manager is listening to your players.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
These two teams had identical records going into this finale.
Today eighty eight and seventy two makeup games after last
week's storm. Braves and Mets both owned tiebreakers over Arizona.
Arizona was eliminated after the game two. Braves win Atlanta
is in three nothing the final in game two over
the Mets tomorrow night, the Braves start a best of
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three in San Diego Braves pitcher Chris Sale was scratched
due to backspasms, So the guy who went eighteen and
three best dra also in the Major League's two point
three eight He's likely out this week. The Wildcard playoffs
start tomorrow. It'll be the October first. The four game
ones of the best of three series are in order
Detroit at Houston, Kansas City at Baltimore, tomorrow, Mets at Milwaukee,
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and the late game Atlanta at San Diego. The San
Francisco Giants fired team president far Anxiety, replaceding him with
Buster Posey, who's now a part owner there and Cincinnati
Red's legend. Pete Rose passed away at the age of
eighty three. Died today at his home in Las Vegas.
He was an All Star seventeen times. He was banned
from baseball in nineteen eighty nine for betting on games.
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Roses career batting average was three h three. He played
in twenty four seasons, had over four thousand, two hundred hits.
Rose had the most at bats and most games played.
Basketball Hall of Famer de Kembe Matumbo died of brain cancer.
He was fifty eight. An eight time All Star Matumbo
was the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year four times.
He was also known for his charitable work. Most NBA
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training camps open Tuesday media Days were today. The WNBA
Playoffs best of five semifinals continued to they started yesterday,
as New York defeated Las Vegas and Connecticut won at Minnesota.
There's a college football game Friday nights on Fox TV
number six Oregon host Michigan State, and on FS one
Friday Night number twenty five, UNLV host Syracuse, Vegas, four
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and oh For the first time in its Division one history,
it is ranked for the first time ever tied for
twenty fifth in the NFL. Two games tonight, Tennessee was
a thirty one to twelve winner at Miami. Nick Folk
five for five on field goals, including hitting from fifty
one to fifty two and fifty three yards out. Titans
quarterback Will Levis left early with a shoulder injury. Mason
Rudolph played the rest of the game. Devon ah Chan
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and the lost ten carries fifteen yards rushing and quarterback
Tyler Huntley. He was the guy from Miami tonight one touchdown, run,
one fumble, one safety, only ninety six yards passing, while
the Dolphins had ninety eight yards on their ten penalties.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Detroit at home say won safety like it was a
good thing. It wasn't. Neither had a safety. Neither stood
after the fumble.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Detroit beat Seattle forty two to twenty nine, each team
three and one. Jared Goff a perfect eighteen of eighteen,
a record two hundred ninety two yards, two touchdowns and
a t D reception. Detroit's offense went five for five
on red zone touchdown didn't even get a game ball
Steve and got no game ball from his coach. As
we heard last hour. Jamiir Gibbs two touchdown runs. He
had fourteen carries seventy eight yards in the lost DK
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Metcalf seven receptions one hundred and four yards, one fumble.
That is not good back to you.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
That's like in the Simpsons when Daryl Strawberry was hitting
and mister Burne says.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Sit down, Strawberry, I have a pin shitted for you.
But coach, I got nine home runs today, well, and
it was a good big day for you. Like that's
Dan Campbell coach. He didn't give a game ball to
Jared Goff, he was eighteen out of eighteen fronts had
a perfect quarterback ranting, oh I didn't know that. Sorry,
come out, he caught a touchdown pass.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Make bad, guys, My bad guys. I'm sorry, Camble wasn't
a rush to get to applebeet?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
What are the rarities where he caught the touchdown pass
from a guy through a touchdown pass two in the
same game.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Apparently that parently that takes you away from getting a
perfect quarterback rating. Coming up next, Yes, we will examine
a night of near perfection in football. That's the next ridio.
Jason to Mike, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.
Well he's my best friend. His name is Mike Harmon.
There you go, it's pretty well done. Now your best
friend was Francisco Lindora. Oh yeah, sorry, Francisco Lindor is
my best friend at least for the day. Look, I'll
fall to the wayside. That's fine. Now, look before we
get into the record breaking night to night on Monday Night,
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football there's a commercial that has been airing that has
you a little bit perturbed.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Well, it's it's raised up the old question of you
know the walls listen right, the walls have ears, and
we get we say a lot of things on the
show that get activated elsewhere. Yeah, So there's been a
commercial running tonight. They've been in parallel, so there's a
straight one, and then there's the Venom the Last Dance, which.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Suddenly has Dak Prescott running around in whoa, whoa really yeah, whoa?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
All of a sudden he's riding on the Venom horse
and all that crap that's in the in the commercial, Like,
wait a minute, what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Jerry, don't give Dak Prescott that money? Let me eat
his head instead. No, nope, gotta pay him. Sorry. I
held off as long as it could, but I'm more
powerful than you, so I'm gonna give Dak the money.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
So we did the Venom Jerry Jones thing about a
month ago, and all of a sudden, we're watching Monday
night football here and I'm the monitor, like, all right,
there's a Venom commercial. The hell's Dak Prescott doing it?
And it just doesn't nerve me. I'm like, you know,
you think you're seeing things right, checking my blood sugars,
making sure you know I'm doing okay here, all right,
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take you on the medicaid and whatever. And then it
airs again. They're like, no, I wasn't seeing a thing.
There he is. There's Dan Prescott in the middle of
a Venom commercial. So yeah, that unnerved me. The other
thing to interminded, like, we've done a lot of talking
about Pete Rush. Remember that he is a member of
one very prestigious hall of fame that doesn't have a
physical place. In two thousand and four he was inducted
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into the WWE.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Hall of Fame. Oh then I do remember that he
was a ww Hall of Famer. You're right right. He
had a long running story with Cain. My god, it's kick.
So there you go. So there's your two tidbits. Tonight
on Monday Night football, we watched an incredible night by
Jared goff right eighteen out of eighteen, two hundred and
ninety two yards, couple of touchdowns and he caught a
touch He was fantastic. Somehow his quarterback rating is not
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a perfect rating, which I failed to understand. How I've
seen games where quarterbacks have thrown at least four or
five incomplete passes and they get a perfect quarterback rating, right,
And I get that throwing for touchdowns is a big deal,
but he threw for two. He threw for nearly threef
It wasn't eighteen out of eighteen for one hundred and
fifty yards. This is nearly three hundred yards, two touchdowns,
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He caught a touchdown. What else does he need to do?
Three other touchdown? Drive? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Two early touchdowns by Montgomery or right, yeah, Montgomery has
two and Gibbs finds the end zone as well.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, like, what are we doing? I don't understand how
that's the case. I really don't does How does he
not get a perfect quarterback? Right? We don't get perfect
quarterback ratings all that often, but how do we not
get a perfect one eighteen out of eighteen? The guy
was unstoppable. I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah, it's insane, conflated. Gibbs got the second touchdown, right,
he's got seventy eight and two. Montgomery forty and one
also had the big catch. But you know what, we
talk about these the formula, and if you actually go
and look at it, it's like here it is, but
the fact that touchdowns per possession becomes a deciding factor
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versus zero in complete fasses and about his clean and
offensive games.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
You can possibly put together from a team. So we're
gonna take the things that you can't control and may
get worth more than the things you can control with
just throwing it in completely. I mean, does he lose
points for the sack? He took three sacks like you
got sacked. Sorry, we're gonna tell.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Me that, you know what, you should have thrown the
ball away and when it ruined your completion percentage and
well the negligible effect.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
But the good news for the Lions is this, right now,
the three best teams in the NFC are the Lions,
the Bucks and the Vikings. Just like we drew it
up beginning of the season. Don't forget about those Commanders.
Look Commanders a night. Nice starts story. It's a nice story.
But the Lions are even better than they were a
year ago. All the defensive issues they have, they have
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solved them right. We talked to Kirby Joseph on the
show tonight. A great phenomenal interception, one of the best
young DB's in the game. They have solved all their problems.
They are better than they were a year ago. If
I had have confidence in one team, if you're playing
the NFC championship game right now, who would win that game?
I'd give you the Lions because the Vikings are a
great nice story. Are they still going to be this
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good as the season gets on? Is Sam Darnold's still
gonna be this good? Tampa Bay can't really run the
football big that they're really good. You know how much
I love Tampa Bay. But the Lions are a complete team.
They're an absolute complete team. And their offense is so
much better than everybody else's that you know, playing against
a team like the Vikings has the best defense in
the NFL, that's gonna I can't wait for that game.
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But boy, give me the give me the Lions and
that because they have the best offense, and I know
their defense can control games like they have. They're a
big bend. But don't break defense where we need to
keep you out of the ends, and we will do so.
I mean, you look at the three best teams in
the NFC, the Lions are at the top. Who knew? Yeah,
I give Seattle much credit.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I mean they didn't put up five hundred and sixteen
yards in total offense. Gino was near to four hundred
through the air and DK Metcalf has been fantastic. There
was a play on the two point conversion that maybe
they got screwed on, but hey, why we have to
talk about officiating everywhere but you're the flag. But for
the Lions, I mean, Ben Johnson said, hey, we're gonna
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break out eventually after those early red zone woes, and
they sure as held in tonight.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, my buddy
Ben Maller coming up next. This is Fox mag
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