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October 1, 2024 40 mins

Jason and Mike welcome in Detroit Lions star Kerby Joseph fresh off their Monday Night Football win over the Seattle Seahawks. The guys give you the three best teams in the NFC right now. And Jason gives his crazy pitch for NL MVP!

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Speaker 1 (00:48):
We had a huge game on Monday Night football. The
Detroit Lions improved a three to one with a big
offensive performance from Jared Goff, but Kirby Joseph another incredible
interception in the end zone to sync this one away.
A great great play by him to clinch the win
for the Lions, and the man of the Hour joins

(01:10):
us now on the hotline. Kirby congratulations on the wind man.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
How you doing man, Thank you so much. Man, I
just want to get all the boy to God. Man,
I couldn't do without them.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Hey, have you heard the play by play interception yet?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
No, I hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
You want to hear it?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, I hit it alright, got to play for him.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
End zone.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Intercepting by Kirby Chelsea.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, he turn the air.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
You can hear.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
We can hear yelling at the end there after the
interception as well.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Nice job and I appreciate it. Man. That pay for
my buddy case be calming and he wished me good
luck man, so I had to give him more.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Take me through that play.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I mean the way you go up for it, you
come down with the ball basically on your stomach. And
I know from when I played football in high school. Man,
it takes me a while to come back from that
because I would have a tough time breathing.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, man, I ain't gonna when I grab that, I said,
I wasn't letting it go no matter what. So I
just kept hold on it, man, and I bought it out.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
So now we just need to up the game because
so you can have that pick of game average here Kirby.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Oh well death, Man. I just want to keep getting
them all. Man, I want to be the best. I
want to lead the league. I need to lead the league.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Just a crazy pace in this one. I mean back
and forth. I mean, what's the defensive strategy as you
see the that's deployed, you know with their three wideouts.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
You know, like we said, like we knew going into
the game, like they had a good receiver coll We
just had to take away his threats, man, and just
keep playing our game. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Oh, you know, I don't know if I were you,
but I think Dan campb would go for this. You
should get some reps on offense. Did you pull the
ball down high point and get it?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Man?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I'm trying. I'm trying to tell them, Hey, tell damn, man,
I didn't want to play, to play called kurve go
deep put me in there.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
See you say they're watching Jared Goff running routes. I
mean you want him now too.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh yeah, he did get a little receiving y'alls today. Man,
shout out to the offense. Man. They really did damn.
And I'm so happy man gao same man a g man,
Sam Man, they really did it, man, I'm just so
thankful that I'm on this team. Man, All glory to God. Man,
and I love my teammate.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
All right, who's got better hands? You were Jared Goff?

Speaker 4 (03:23):
I got better?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Man.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
You kick people.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
He's like running too.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
But yeah, defensively, man, this was obviously a huge test.
We see that the points rolling on the board, Kirby.
For you guys, you know now that you're you're three
and one and going into that second quarter of the season,
just looks like things are starting to click.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh yeah, man, we just got to keep it going. Man.
If you ain't getting better, you getting worse. Man. That's
our model. Man. So we just keep second dating man,
next day mentality, man, and we just gotta keep going. Man.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Hey, what's what's coach Amble like after after win like this?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Man? You know Coach Campbell man, he always fired up man,
super fired up man, got the team right up before
the game. Man. You know, he just loved his team. Man,
he give us us all that we get it back.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
What did you think of those unis you guys were
trotting out today?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Hey, all right, what damn man? I love these black
uniform man. I thought it out. I thought the intensity. Man,
I just hey, I'm black. Jersey just looked so good.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Dude, I can't stop staring at the helmet. The helmet
looks sweet.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, the helmet looks so. I ain't even seen my pictures.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, oh no, it looked good. It popped on the TV.
We got the monitors as we're sitting here in the studio.
So when you want to high point the ball at
the end of the game, there was no question there.
He is front and center and sir, all right, Kirby, Joseph,
congratulations on the wind tonight.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Thanks so much for stopping by with us. Keep on
keeping on, man.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
We'll talk to you down the road, all right, Man,
appreciate it for having me.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Man, Thanks Herry, I love that good luck.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I haven't seen myself in the helmet, but I know
I know it looks fly pretty good. I haven't seen
myself in elman, but I know I look fly. I
I have a good like when we've heard that, you know,
like Brady Pitpinga who you used to come on the
show with us, says, hey, listen, I played for a
long time, and when you look good, you play good.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
And I see how he said for me to tell
that guy whoever said that at the end, to shut
the hell up about what we're getting them.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Reps on off of keep on keeping on, yes, keep
on keeping on it.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
What knucklehead says that. I haven't said that in a while.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I just wanted to drop that one back guy. You
even get the most muscular.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
A WWE superstar, I mean the listener.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
This kid is one of the best young defensive backs
in the game.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Year last year. He's a ball hawk.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I mean, this is this is one of the reasons
why the Lions, Like you think the Lions are going something,
they're not. I mean, the Lions are loaded all there.
All the you quote weaknesses the Lions had last year,
they covered them up right, Like defensively, it's okay, we
need to do X, Y and Z. They brought in
some guys in the offseason. They drafted well. I mean,
this team is there's nothing that this team needs, well,

(06:10):
there's nothing, just the just because they're so young and
the defense one of the youngest in the NFL right
of the I think it is the youngest in the NFL.
The only thing they need and so far they're doing
great at it is that when you make it all
the way to the NFC Championship game, and you know
you gave it away because Dan Cambell wanted to go
for it on fourth down. So many times you had
you were so close to that Super Bowl. Sometimes it
takes a while to get back there. And mentally, I mean,

(06:31):
and you curse them because you keep you keep playing
the game, you keep thinking, Okay, we're back in the
NFC Championship game, and you don't never mentally move forward
from it. And so the beginning of the season it's
still a hangover thing on you. But the Lions, that
is clearly not the case. And and you know, look,
they're they're playing with the enthusiasm they need to.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
They are.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
They are playing at a high level everywhere. They're throwing
the ball well, they're running the football well, they're playing
great defensively. I mean, this has been some kind of
run beginning of the season for the Lions. And if
you thought they were going to take a step back,
I mean, they're every bit as good as they were
last year. This is a team that took people by
surprise last year. How good I mean not me, because
I told you they're going to the Super Bowl, and
they you know, they let me down your fault, but

(07:11):
just that a little bit. But now they're one of
the hunted. And still look how good they are. Jared
Goffer the Perfect Game Quarterback Rating or almost a perfect
game quarterback rating, eighteen out of eighteen. This is a
team that's flying around, They're having fun, They're scaring a
lot of people. Would you see the NFC over the
course of the last couple of weeks and you take
a look and say, okay, well, is anybody from the

(07:32):
NFC's playing really really well? No, the Commanders are, but
this is kind of early for them.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
In the West, hey, forty nine ers, but they have
some problems. Rams have a lot of problems. Are his
own has problems? Seattle was okay, but look at what
the lines into them tonight. In the South, there's really nobody,
all right, this playing really really well except for Tampa.
Tampa got surprised by Denver the big win yesterday. You
could really say, right now the three best teams in

(07:59):
the NF And who would have said this beginning of
the year. The Lions, Tampa Bay, and the Vikings. Those
are your three best teams in the NFC right now.
Not the Bears, No, dude, I love the Bear. We'll
get till we get this Bears. I still love the Bears.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
And Caleb Williams is gonna be fantastic. He's he's already
showing you he's getting there and he can jump. But
right now, coach, there three best teams in the NFC,
and I would take I would take Detroit over Tampa
right now. And I'm Minnesota. Yeah, let's see what you're
afraid of, Sam. Not afraid of Sam. Minnesota's got the
best defense in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
But that's it.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
The defense flying around. The Detroit thing is that I
still think there's room to their ceiling. Right Minnesota, everything
is clicking, and you watched it start to unravel a
bit and they had to hang on to win that
game against the Packers. No, Jay, you're Alexander in the
secondary for that one, But you play who's out there?
Even though they went through all their historyonics to show

(08:54):
how great they were, which were all directed back at
him even though he was on the sidelines.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
But that's either here to there, Tampa.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I mean, they got surprised by Denver and got run
over by Denver.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
That game was really a.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Curiosity, right, how much is reading your own press clippings,
and then you're now a baker who's getting slapped backed
from Tom Brady from the booth, which is kind of
fun You knew what was gonna happen, But when you
look at the Lions, it was funny because Ben Johnson
earlier this week, you know, was quoted as just saying, look,
we haven't even clicked right.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
We're gonna get there.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Because they had red zone issues. That was one of
the things that was through the first couple of weeks
of the year. They were having their their problems finishing
off drives. And then Tonight sledgehammer like, all right, we're
just gonna run the ball repeatedly with Montgomery early and
then here's Jimyer Gibbs, and then you get a little
trickeration where you get Jared Goff with the touchdown reception.
All that to say that and a defense flying around,

(09:48):
I mean when you're playing with the lead, I mean,
look at how they terrorized Gino Smith tonight, like he's
still finished with a gaudy stat number, and there were
some anxious moments, no question about it. Still he went
for what three ninety five, But when it was all said,
and done. You were able to get after the quarterback,
take away a bit of the run game. Walker had
his touchdowns. But from a yardage perspective, you know they

(10:10):
still handled their business and you put up forty two.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
That's a tough, tough thing that when that becomes the
benchmark against the rest of the NFC, because, as you say,
with the forty nine ers, still a lot of questions. Mean,
Christian McCaffrey may not play a game this year, right
with everyone we're talking about with his achilles right, some say, well,
this diagnosis means it's usually about to pop and that

(10:35):
it's inevitable. Well, Jordan Mason's been fantastic, but you've got
injuries that have beset them on both sides of the ball.
Big win yesterday, but again, sustainability, et cetera. But for
this Lion squad, I don't know. The NFC North is
going to be awful. Interesting, they got run, they got
no problems banded right now.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
The line.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Look, they played their worst game against Tampa, right, Jared
Goff was awful, But this is still an offense. If
you're talking about those three teams, what team's offense do
I have the most confidence in Detroit, Clearly Detroit. Right
the Vikings are still hey, the Vikings have started out great,
but obviously their defense is great. The Vikings started out well.

(11:14):
Tampa Bay's offense is pretty good. They figured things out,
and Baker Mayfield's have a terrific season. But the offense,
the offense that I'm believing the most in eat and
all of the the NFC is the Lions. You know,
you talked about McCaffrey maybe not playing. Mason's been filling
in pretty well, not McCaffrey, but still it's not like
they're getting nothing out of position. So when when you're
trying to say, okay, who do you believe in the

(11:36):
most right now, it's almost like the Lions kind of
fall out of that discussion because, well, we still think
the forty nine ers are great, and look at how
new things are with the Vikings and Sam Darnold's great,
what a story. But the Lions are every there, even
better than they were a year ago. And that's what
people aren't getting is that, yes, you lose a game
once in a while in the NFL, the Lions are
better than they are a year.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I have one regret from our conversation with Kirby Joseph.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
That you have what one life to give for your
hunt for your country. That was something like that, Patrick Henry, Right, No,
who was said that I have I regret, I have
what one life to give for my country? Patrick Henry,
he was giving me liberty or give yeah, hit me
the Jets, but he could What about Mark Henry?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, Mark, No, non't know.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
The question would have been, what are you doing with
your bye week because they've got the week five by yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I mean you get this big victory and now you
get to go and there's pictures of yourself in the ship,
and you should have told them, dude, I hang out,
I go to Detroit for vacation. Here's what to do,
surely expecting that somebody's been there a year already, so
he kind of knows, you know what. I should have
told him what you cost the Lions the Super Bowl? No,
I got you there. I'm like, dude, didn't. I should
have said what happened to you?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I got you all the way to the NFC champions
them like you were. They don't get there with them,
that was fair. They don't get there without me. And
that's the deal with that you make with the devil
at the crossroads. Right as you're getting everything you want,
it gets ripped away.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
No, you're shaking your head. No, you don't get me.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
They don't get there without me. There's the before the
night last year. I told you the lines are gonna
be Kansas City tonight Opening Night, and they're going to
go to the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
And if Dan Campbell had really.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Thought eighty four seconds before, oh, I'm gonna go for
it every time on fourth down in the second half
of the NFC time they were.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
No, I can say, you're kidding. You haven't gone back since.
I haven't been never gone back. No, I've not going
back since. No, but do you kidding?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
They're gonna say, hey, they have a parade for me
in downtown Detroit. They would say, this is the guy
that said we're going to the super Bowl, Jason. They
would say, We're sorry we couldn't do it for you.
We're sorry we fell short of your lofty goal that
you get you gave us. I said, it's okay, you
made it as far as you could. But going for
it in the second half on fourth down in the
NFC title Game is a lot different than doing it
Week eleven against the Bears.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'm sorry, but that that's how it went. The play
calls were good for the execution sloppy because.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's what happens in the fourth quarter of the NFC
Championship game when you're trying to throw to your fourth
receiver and your nerves are like like me drinking diet
Coke watching the Mets, You're not going to complete all
those passess the reason why Josh.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Reynolds is on another team right now. How many die
Cokes did you have today? Oh, dude, you have no idea,
You have no idea. It was at least no probably
a six pack though during the game. Caffeinated water.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I at least had a six pack of die
Coke during that Mets game today, without a doubt, no joke,
at least a And the thing was it was fast
because watching the game, it just stop. You can't see
Steve from from Steve Cohen, see it from Gary Cohen.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
It was like the beginning of the game.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I'm saying, Okay, you gotta be ready for Game two.
The Mets are not playing well, They're dead from the
neck up. They're just I gotta be ready for Game two,
and I feel good about Game two because Chris Sale
is not going to pitch all the stuff.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
But before in the eighth inningcome, but before the eight
did you have a rally big mac or something?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I probably no, no, no, no, we didn't need to
after the game. Really, why you fasted during game one? Yeah? Yeah,
after the game. But it was so much die coke then,
I mean it was, I mean it was just the
eighth inning. I think I might have had three. I
don't know that's good for your stomach.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Then probably I had three more in the ninth. Everything
it was okay, you're almost quoting Christofferson. The beer I
had for breakfast wasn't bad. Oh whoa lot more for dessert.
I'm raising my too soon.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Man coke zero, I forgot what I bought caffeine in it? Sure? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the tirerack dot Com Studios.
Thanks to Kirby Joseph for stopping by with us. Great
stuff from him, telling you man, the lines have done
nothing but get better since last year. They are absolutely
legit and maybe right now the biggest Super Bowl threat.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Now they're screwed.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Coming up next, we'll get back into the other big
story of the day and tell you just why it
was so magical.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
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Speaker 2 (15:50):
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Thanks to Kirby Joseph stopping by with
us a few minutes ago. The best young DB's in
the game had a huge one handed interception tonight. Jason, Yeah, Mike, Yeah.
I've called him back and watched that interception a couple
of times. That is one of the greatest picks.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
What did he say? I wasn't say, Becau show. That
is an unreal pick.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I wasn't letting it go right, I mean because because
he lands on the football and he still holds onto it.
That's the bit because I remember when I said that
to him, because I remember that was always the worst part,
was if you landed on the football at practice, and
then when I.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Saw that, I always go back.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I think I probably have PTSD from football practice, which
I never really addressed in my life. But I remember,
and I'm landing and it's like, that's no fun. And
he lands right on the football, holds onto it and
you after a one handed interception.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
It was an amazing catch.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well, I mean he's in He's in much better shape
than you or I ever were, even at your athletic
there smith so being able to bound up. Not to
mention the endorphins of winning a big Monday night game
like that in big time moments, but I mean he's
got three interceptions on the year already, pensions for making
big plays and being part of a defense that flies around.

(17:17):
But yeah, that the high point in the ball there. Now,
it's a terrible throw by Gino still likes to force
as was forcing. As much a better quarterback as he's become,
he still likes to force it a little bit too much. Now,
obviously we're coming down the stretch and you're trying to
make a play. You're down two scores. I get it,
But that one I'll advise. Question about the route trees, right,

(17:40):
we talked about it a little bit off air, and
you and I. You know, whether someone broke off a
route or changed up directionality and they didn't have the
communication on point, but either way, Joseph went and got
the ball and sealed the deal. And we told him,
hey should get some reps on offense. He said, what
call the coaches? Yeah, let him know. I want some
reps on offense. We've got better hands. Okay, you were
Jered Goff. He's started laughing at Yeah. I just said

(18:01):
Mel Appleby's We'll get a hold of the on campbell
I'm gonna show up with the that's it. I'm gonna
be the guy with the menu in front of my face.
He's got better hands, you were Jared Gonn Oh me,
me me, I get better hands with Jared gon No
question ever talked about the Jason Smithso with Mike Cartman
live from the tirec dot Com studios. He has big
night in the NFL. Detroit wins every bit as good

(18:23):
as they were last year, even better. We'll have more
on the other game because there was another game tonight.
There was probably didn't want how many people you think
just said I'm not watching this game. I even think
just said, okay, I got a choice, and forget about
the two screen experience, and you know I'm gonna watch
the Lions.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
There's enough fantasy owners that at least wanted to tune
in early.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Really, but you were tuning in like see, there's one
thing to tune into a game where you think you're
gonna get a lot of points. There's another one to
tune into a game where you're not sure. And I
don't want to watch a game like there's like if
you had Tyreek Hill or a chan or Waddle or
anybody or anybody on the anybody on the Titans, and
you turn that game on and and there's no Tua
and Hunley can't move the football, and and and suddenly

(19:06):
Mason Rudolph comes in.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's why am I what I gotta take? Disappointed?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
But there's a question between when you started versus when
you left. Oh, if you sat down, you're you're having
the hope that Will Levis is going to give you
one of those gifts, right or two of those gifts?
And you did if you had the anytime interception, Yeah
it was point point five. He got one before he left,
So you got you got your over on that. But
for Hill, Waddle, et cetera, you were hoping you'd be

(19:34):
working with the short field and maybe that Hunley would
be able to give you some magic. Instead, it's that
floating dumpster going down the river right now when you
look at what McDaniel's offense has done. And we talked
with Jason locking For earlier in the show and he goes, hey,
maybe the balloom's off the rose because clearly the system
is not, you know, quarterback proof.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Oh dude.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
No team has fallen farther in the last eight games
than the Dolphins. The Dolphins going into December last year,
or hey man, they get home field watch out because
you always worry about warm weather teams on the road
in the playoffs. It's a thing, sure, but like they're
going in December, they're nine and three with no problems,
and now eight games later, it's.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
They may have to start over.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Number one.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know, you have the injury situation with Tua. You
don't know when he's gonna come back and how he's
going to come back. He's gonna go see a neurologist
and then eventually he'll get cleared, and who knows what
that's gonna be. I mean, maybe he doesn't get clear
till the middle point of the season. And if the
Dolphins are two and six, is he gonna come back?
And probably not, But you're also you're also looking at
a team that that you thought was great and look
at all the offense and how fastly are it? Boy,

(20:36):
the Dolphins are ready to take over the league, and
instead it's hey, they've just fallen off a cliff in
the last eight games. I know, Jalen Wright got hurt
in the pregame and then moster it wasn't cleared yet.
So some of the offensive weaponry that you'd have maybe
for some balance, but eight chance has just been a
guy after being so explosive a year ago, because you

(20:57):
don't have the benefit of the timing patterns downfield with
Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle and making some big plays stretching
the defense. They're coming up in the box and okay,
Skyler Thompson, okay, snoop beat us uh.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
And that's not the case.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
And you know, underscores one of those great mantras in
the NFL. Of as much as you may love your
starting quarterback, most popular guy still the backup and you
better hope that he can stay popular once he has
to take a snap, because most teams you're gonna see
that guy on the field in short order. And you
know the thing is, I'll tell you this story because
this is not this is not a fantasy story. But

(21:34):
going into this game right yesterday, Tyler Huntley is named
the starting quarterback over Skyler Thompson.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Do you hear your music?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I've seen no, no, no, no, no, this is just yet.
I mean it's a story, it's just it's a recent story.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
This is just yet.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
But I mean, look, if you tried to push away
the jet moss as being a lifetime ago, then that
music can warn.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
The no no no.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
And I said, you know, this is a great offense
with a lot of great players jet sucking. What if
Tyler Huntley comes in and you done, ty Shirt, You've done.
It's your music.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
You're done with that. You're done. I cleared it. You've done.
You too, You just you too.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
You got to do a little bit of a a
little bit more of a of an instrument, A little
bit more, a little.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Bit more like that.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Who would have thought your best impression would be of
a musical instrument.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I could be a picture, A perfect for I love
that song. Yeah, that's a good song. This cap dancing
with Agent Carter Uh. The song is old.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
So I I said, you know what, I go in
Look quarterbacks, quarterbacks. Quarterback play is down across the NFL
this year. And there's another big thing. I don't know
how how much better the NFL product has gotten over
the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
It's not good.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
You know that. That's the one thing about the growth
of the NFL. The product also has to get better.
You have to enjoy the product more. I don't know,
and I don't know the product has gotten better. Well,
we're seeing five pre snap penalties per game, yeah on
average right now.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Oh, look, and it's a big year. Every loves throwing flags.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
It's a year of the flag so far where the
tackle is lining up in that first step. Yeah, except
if you're playing the Chiefs, they don't get many.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
No no, no, no, no, they always they always get him.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Uh So, Yeah, the product is not as good as
it was the last couple years of overall doesn't mean
it's not as exciting and we're not into it, but
just the product is not on an uptick. And there's
a lot of flags, and especially with quarterback play being down,
and say, you know what, want to pick up Huntley
and I'm gonna just gonna hold him sit on my bench,
because what if if two it doesn't doesn't play, and
suddenly he comes in and the offense is still really good. Right,

(23:39):
Maybe the offense is a is a byproduct of the
players I have around it. After tonight, No, now he's
going back on the way for wire.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I mean he got.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
A touchdown run. I went, yeah, okay, I think he
threw it for ninety six yards. Yeah, so I got
ten fantasy points out of him. I could get that
out of Anthony Richardson in the game.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Wow, you really did. You had to do that too.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I'm just saying, man, ten fantasy points, ten fantasy points a.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Week, which Richardson's finished like half half of the or
something like that. But but he's going. But like, like
I watch Hulley and I go, how is this guy?
How did we get to the Pro Bowl a couple
of years ago? How do people think he was so good?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Like I look at him, he's like he's like he's
like a he's almost like watching a uh Jacoby Brissette
light is watching Huntley play and it's it's it's it's crazy,
like this is the guy they thought was gonna be
better than skylet Tom's coming in. Wow, man, I mean
the the the Dolphins have so many problems right now.
And I don't know how you go from being a

(24:37):
team in the on the rise and a team of
the moment in the future, right because McDaniel comes in
a year ago and the team gets faster and they
have so many weapons and things look like, oh man,
this is gonna be an era of greatness from Miami
in the AFC East for a long time. And then
you get to December and suddenly things just fall apart,
so much so that the off season the Dolphins a

(25:00):
approached it like, hey, this is an off season of change.
Even McDaniel even said that, Well, it's kind of an
off season of change. What do you mean it's an
off season of change? You guys were a super Bowl
favorite in December and you wound up losing on the
road in one of the coldest games ever.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
So okay, I get it.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
So something is not right in Miami, absolutely one, because
there's no way you have that kind of year and
then hit the off season with well, it's kind of
an off season of change. What he means an off
season of change? You have all these great young playmakers
right there. Real, what do you mean it's an off
season of change. I don't understand. And then you see
them hit this year and they struggle a little bit.
But obviously to his injury is a big deal. And

(25:35):
again I'll go back to what I said earlier in
the show. Maybe to a tongue of I looa is
the MVP of the NFL because you see how badly
the Dolphins look without him, when when all the questions
of oh to it can't throw it deep? And I
don't know if he's that great. I don't know why
he got paid. He's overrated. Well you see the way
the Miami Dolphins offense hums with him and when he's

(25:57):
throwing passes, and how bad it looks without him. So
you tell me, if to a tongue of I low
is not great, two is a fantastic quarterback man And
when he's at the helmet this offense and.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's gone, it's really bleep and dangerous.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
But now suddenly there's these questions obviously because of his health,
but also, wow, maybe he's even better than we thought
he was. Because usually if a quarterback with any kind
of talent comes in, the good guys. Guys have been
in the league for a little bit. The offense looks okay,
they did. The offense looks a little bit okay, it
doesn't look like this where this is a really tough watch.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
It really was. I was, I was okay with say, hey,
if I was a fan, I was, I'm not turning
over this game.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I'm watching. I'm watching the Lions game and just seeing
the score in the corner. Okay, nine three. I don't
need to go back to that game. Well became who
became a pinball? I mean by far, I mean what
do we get seventy one points up on the board
and a near miss down the end the aforementioned friend
of the show, Kirby Joseph coming down with that interception

(26:55):
to help seal the deal. But you know, you had
potential chaos there if they're able to convert in that sequence.
But it goes again to the backup quarterback role and
how instrumental it is. We talk about systems and the
offensive gurus, and McDaniel was anointed now looking disheveled the
last couple of weeks. One note out of this is

(27:16):
you had to play early on where Lugerius Snead and
Tyreek Hill. We're getting after it a little bit. And
then on the next play, Hill dropped the lateral, ruled
a turnover, and after that, after the game.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
He did not meet with reporters.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
So you guys, so you've got that. So it's starting
to boil over a little bit. And two us not
walking through the door anytime soon, and trying to find
a quarterback that's going to be able to best utilize
Hill and Waddle and get that downfield game going.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Enough.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Good, look a chan was running against Bay defenses that
we're having to try to take away a couple of
receivers downfield right now, they don't have to worry about that.
All right, we'll go on one because it ain't coming
out and it ain't going up. So it's becoming a
much more difficult proposition, and you can see it starting
to spiral. But again owing back to quarterback play, and

(28:12):
when we evaluate these guys, look, whenever they get paid,
they get paid. Nobody's walking into your office telling you
you're overpaid when you're watching the Mets and the Braves
for an hour and a half while you're still on
a company times so or taking a longer smoke break
or coffee break or whatever it is you do. It's
the you know, the economics of the game, whether you

(28:35):
like it or not. But right now, like McDaniel pulling
his hair out, just think about that, how far my
hammy his fault and maybe Tua is the most valuable
quarterback in the year with that.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Think about that. Yeah, but Marino fakespiked against the Jets.
The life is good. That was a long time.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
That was nineteen ninety five. It's still hurts a long
time ago.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
No, do you know what those two guys have in
common too? Though?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
What's that zero super Bowl? You said the magic words
a few seconds ago? Zero nets and braves. Steve Desager
has more on that game right now. What's trending as big?

Speaker 5 (29:06):
They split a doubleheader, they're both in. But there was
an NFL record set in the game at Detroit tonight.
Lions beat Seattle forty two to twenty nine. Coach Dan Campbell,
your quarterback Jared Goff was a perfect eighteen for eighteen passing.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Yeah, well, I just gave the game ball to somebody else,
So I feel awful right now. Well, I knew he
played a heck of a game. I did not realize
he was perfect. I did not know he was literally
eighteen for eighteen.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yes, he was two hundred and ninety two yards, two
touchdowns a TV reception. Apparently the old NFL record for
a perfect passing game Kurt Warners ten for ten.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
About twenty years ago.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Goff also sets the record easily for most passing yards
in a game with no incompletions. The old record was
set in nineteen thirty nine one hundred and seventy nine yards.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Golf was perfect ball. No, somebody for the Brooklyn Dodgers.
Jeber went there.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
Seahawks against the Seahawks today. Jimmy Kolpax, No, it's a
little slightly before Sandy Kopax's time nineteen thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Babe Herman, it was baburton O Babemer shared. Goff threw
for two ninety two tonight.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
By the way, Gino Smith threw for three hundred and
ninety five yards, one touchdown, one interception, three TD runs
for Seattle running back Kenneth Walker.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
He played after the oblique injury.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Seattle had in thirty four minutes time of possession, thirty
eight first downs in this one over five hundred yards
to have thirty eight first downs.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
In an NFL game has not happened in over a.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Decade, and yet they lost by double digits forty two
to twenty nine at Detroit. Each team three and one.
Tennessee was zero to three, but got to win at
Miami thirty one to twelve. Nick Folk five for five
on field goals, including from fifty one, fifty two and
fifty three yards Outiton's quarterback Will Levis left early with
a shoulder injury.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Mason Rudolph played the rest of the game.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Tony Pollard in the way in eighty eight yards rushing
in a late td Titans led six to three just
before halftime. The Dolphins in the game had thirteen drives
thirteen first downs. Brown's running back Nick Chubb will practice
on Wednesday. That's news because that's his first practice since
the knee injuries a year ago. Packers wide receiver Christian
Watson will miss multiple weeks with a high ankle sprain.

(31:27):
Dallas linebacker Micah Parsons, with the bad ankle, is unlikely
to play this week, and Carolina linebacker Shaq Thompson is
out for the year with a torn achilles. Basketball Hall
of Famer to Kembe Matumbo died of brain cancer.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
He was fifty eight.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Cincinnati Red's legend Pete Rose died at the age of
eighty three. The Mets and Braves split their makeup doubleheader
in Atlanta today. The Mets took the opener in a thriller,
eight to seven on a two run homer top of
the ninth from Francisco Lindor. The Mets earned a playoff
birth they'll play at Milwaukee tomorrow. Ozzy Alby's of Atlanta
did have a homer and five RBIs. By the way,

(32:01):
there is no one game playoff in the major leagues anymore.
It comes down to the first at least first on
the list to head to head record. The Mets are
in and then game two went to Atlanta. The Braves
are in three nothing the final in the nightcap against
the Mets, so tomorrow nights the Braves start a best
of three in San Diego, Arizona was eliminated. Braves pitcher

(32:22):
Chris Sale though was scratched from today's start due to
backspasms and is likely out this week and this note
regarding the MLB All Star Game, players will now wear
their own team's uniforms as it always used to be.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Oh, we're not gonna get those really bad uniforms anymore.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Let's go the stink and Nike contract.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Take that.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
They must not have sold very well, hopefully not. Why
those last ones were awful? Well they were terrible. We
were awful, but most of them have been awful.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right, But it's usually the all right, we can get
a cash grab here because the completest wants the next
not Tani, Trout whatever, lind.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Or, speaking of which, you can guess what the highest
La jersey during the regular seasonal as an MLB shop.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Oh, Frank, let's go Lindor. No, he was fath actually
on the list.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Otani first, Bryce Harper, second, Aaron Judge, Jersey third, thought
I was going to guess what else?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Do you want to guess?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Come on, what do you got?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Frostburg say the name Otani? Yeah, of course, I was.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Kind of hoping you had, you know, a foul end
of the bench Mets guy that you're trying to and
you'll save that for your podcast. Thank you, Steve, Jason,
Babe Herman, Jersey, Jason Smith Show.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
With Mike Carmen Live The tirec dot Com studios.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Ah coming up next, So wait till you see the
MVP argument that I can make.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (34:04):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios. And now, look,
not that he's going to win it, but boy, I
could make a hell of an argument right now for
Francisco Lindor, for MVP. He's not gonna win. And I'm
telling you he's not going to win. I'm telling you

(34:25):
he's not going to win. He's not going to win.
Otani's gonna win. It's probably gonna be unanim What do
you mean, probably he's gonna win. It probably be you
will get one vote. I said, He's probably be unanimous.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
But you can take the problem. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
You don't think somebody from the New York Post is
gonna say no, Hey, you know, Lindor is a guy
that plays a field every day, right act, there will
be one that he plays in all the games. Otani
just hits and he goes back and shuts down, and
then he petches dog and then and they.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Have bobble heads. Nobody's voting for Lindor. That's what it is.
That's what it is. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I'm telling you, but I could say this for Lindora,
about Lindora and Otani. I'm just saying I can say
this about Lindora and Otan. I'm not saying he's going
to win. But you already know that there's gonna be
a faction of people that don't like the fact that
Otani's not playing and Lindor plays every day. Now, obviously,

(35:17):
what Otani did this year, come on, man, he did
stuff we've never seen before in the history of the game.
Fifty to fifty come on, I mean, the guys just
I mean, he just continues to top himself. Right, We've
never seen fifty fin and he did it with three
weeks left in the regular season.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
But I would say this, I'd say this.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
In this year in Major League Baseball, there are two
plays in the entire season that are head and shoulders
above everyone else, and that is Shojeo Tani's fiftieth home
run and Francisco Lindora's home run today and Otani. Of
all the hits he's got this year for the Dodgers, right,
of all the hits he's got this year, he doesn't

(36:00):
have a hit like Lindor had today, does not have
a hit that meant as much to his team as
everything else as Lindor had today. I don't know that
anybody in baseball has a hit that ment as much
to his team as what Lindor did today.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
I don't know anybody in baseball got a hit like
that doesn't take away the other one hundred and sixty
one games of the year. You know what I'm saying. No,
he's not terrible. You win the moment of the year.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, but it's not like Lindor has been terrible the
last I mean, he's been really commemorated.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
On a trading card. Here it is, he's your date.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
He decided to have a meeting when the Mets were
eleven games under five hundred. That and then Grimace throughout
the first pitch of the game, and suddenly the Mets
are great.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
You got credit? Where are you getting it? First? Look?
Look Grimace, Grimace wins as a seat.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Now you could you could you could say, hey, Otani,
Lindor one person, and Grimace is going to win over
both of them.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah no, I mean, come on, the most important could.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Have win over both of them. So thirty three home run,
ninety one RBI twenty nine stone Base did couldn't even
get to thirty thirty again? Uh, two seventy again. I
mean he hit nineteen points better this year than he
did last. He's six times in his career he's gotten
finished in the top ten of MVP voting.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
So yeah, no, he's had a hell of a year.
There's no question about it.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
And there is something to be said for playing the
field that there will be, you know, somebody raising their
hand and saying, well, what about this the DH is
I mean, we've watched it for the Hall of Fame
for years, right, and I always wondered what the argument.
And he's in now and people hold him as the
guy that shouldn't the Harold Baynes argument. But if he'd

(37:38):
hit fourteen more home runs and had whatever it was,
another one hundred and twenty three hits where he hits
either four hundred home runs or three thousand hits, is
he an automatic Hall of Famer versus as he's often
just said, Well, he was a DH and he compiled stats.
He was a good professional hitter with Lindor. I mean,
this is a hell of a year. I mean, there's

(37:59):
no question about it. But what did some tongues wagging around?
Of course I'm not looking, but if I was making
the argument that stuff, I could say there is no
argument that you could not discim. There's always an argument
not for this was always an argument. I'm not I'm
not saying it's it's gonna win that hey, goold hey.
But it's just like in law and order. Sometimes Sam

(38:20):
would make an argument even though he knew he wasn't
going to win. He always had to be morally right
though Sam. That was the one thing Sam made, don't
even though he knew he wasn't gonna win. If Sam
was arguing this one, he would have no case. There
were a couple of times where Sam went off the
rail a little bit, sure, and Cutter was much you know, sure,
you know sixteen ras of separation. But but what what
I'm saying is is indisputed. Yes, the playing of the

(38:41):
field is a thing for voters. Yes, that will be
a thing for some voters, not nearly enough. And Otani's
going to win but Lindor his home run today, what
he did a bigger hit than any hit. Otani's had
the biggest hit in baseball all year. That tell me,
tell me you had a bigger hit.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Who had?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Guys had to play on a day where nobody else
played because it sucks because it was a hurricane.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Man, that's because there was a hurricane. That's why we
had to.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Well, he was also more just referencing you didn't take
care of business, so exactly we couldn't play.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
They wouldn't let us play. No, no, no, no, no, no,
not the hurricane, just the largess of the the first
pitch opening day, you wouldn't be in this. No, that's true,
and I do have to die. You have to to
mention that to job.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
You guys opted out of making up a game earlier
in the idea camp. No, really, why why Grimace doesn't
throw out the first pitch opening day? I mean really,
we're we're cruising. We have a buye in the first
round of the bid. If we have Grimma throwing out
the first pitch, then they.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Would have gave you the World Series already.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I would have been over. There has no need to play. No,
but Grimma's getting the trophy from Rob Manfred. Here's your
hunkome metal. I really wanted to hand this to a
deserving McDonald's mascot. Here you go Grimace, and he walks
up to him and hands Manfred a sheet cake. There
you go, Manford eating a big mac while Grimmace is
holding up the World Series trophy.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I think that works.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
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