October 4, 2024 • 48 mins
Today on The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike react immediately following the Mets comeback win over the Brewers! Pete Alonso smacked a go-ahead homer in the top of the ninth — the guys give you their instant thoughts and takeaways. Later they get into the Thursday Night Football matchup between the Falcons and Buccaneers, reacting in real time as Kirk Cousins threw the game-winning TD in overtime. Falcons wide receiver Ray-Ray McCloud joins the show to share his first-hand account of the game!
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Swam on a five ball to right field pretty well,
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Wall, he jumps, It's done. Hay haydat Haydolonzo with the
most favorable home run of his career. Pups as fast
as a round second. It's a three run, a homer.
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I am dead. I am dead after this game. I
didn't think i'd have a voice. After Alonzo's ball went out.
I was oddly calm. In the top of the ninth,
I tweeted out, I feel good, top of the order.
Pete's gonna come up maybe as last at bad as
I met, I oddly felt calm and bang, my goodness.
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I don't think my pulse rate got above one hundred
and fifty hundred and eighty. No, no higher than that
Mike Harmon maybe two hundred maybe maybe two twenty five too,
But I was oddly calm.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I don't think any of us believe you.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
We didn't get to see it, and we were trying
to get you on the closed circuit TV. You wouldn't
pick up to try to watch that final inning. As
it started to unfold, we were sitting in the you know,
all our different points here in the Fox Sports radio studios,
and the screaming began as the ball lifted up and
the sadness. A Brewer fan was brought in as Pete
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Alonzo circled the bases. His night was all about the
miss pop up down the first base.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Line and being mocked earlier.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
That was gonna be the meme that lived forever. Instead,
I'll be looking through the boxes to pull out the
ped Alonzo rookie cards for the forty eight hour sale
before the next round begins.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know, let me just say, because pedalons I mean,
this is like I always say, how can you not
be romantic about baseball?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Here's a guy who has been one of the best
superstars in the game the last year, is one of
the biggest home run hitters by all accounts. How he
carries himself. His teammates love him. He's a guy that
loves the game, and he is carried himself in a
really tough place to play when you don't win, which
is Queen's Uh, it's you know, he's.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Carried yourself with a lot of class. He comes in there.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I mean, how much expectations have there been for the
Mets during no, no, but.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Still but well there's no there's always every year, there's
always expect That's the worst part is there's never any
non expectation. There's always expectation, and then they break your
heart that that's what it is. I mean, that's it's
never anything else. There's always expect It's not like the Jets,
where sometimes you go, well, okay, we're gonna stink.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
By the way, send this guy out of town and
pick him up at the airport and take him to
it a while ago.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh no, Now you gotta pay him whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Cohen's got a pony, and.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Look, he has had an incredible run as a Met.
He hired Scott Boris as his agent, and when that happened,
I knew I was waving goodbye to him. Okay, he's
gonna go. Boris is gonna always takes his guys to
free agency. They always wind up with new teams. That's
just how it goes. You need you need any you
need more evidence. Look at what happened last year when
all four of Scott Rris' stars were out there at
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the end of spring training. The all to take lower
deals someplace else.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
We'll have a great Boris collusion conversation sometime in the future.
But he comes into this year. I just want to play,
and he has a bad year. He's an All Star
because by the All Star break, the Mets had just
started playing well, and you know, Lindor had not turned
into the second half freak that he was. And he
comes down the stretch and Alonso is awful. He has
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lost at the plate. I think he's had five hits
in his last seventeen games. He has not been good.
He has not been able to catch up to fastballs.
He has not been the same guy. I see his
body language up at the plate. It is not good.
And here he comes up with a chance, possibly the
last at bat he will ever have as a met,
the last at bat for the Mets all season. And
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when he swings got that pitch at three and one,
and I knew, I knew his confidence was back. At
three and one. I could tell, I think Pete's got
a little something here. He's feeling pretty good, because I
could tell earlier in the game when he was he
had a three and one count early in the game,
not feel confident that the top hand is coming off
the bat.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
He does not feel confident. But I could tell.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Look, I've seen a lot of Alonzo White bats the
last five years. I said, he's got he feels confident here.
And as soon as he hit that and he yelled,
I yelled. I never saw the ball go over the
fence the first time because I was screaming, because I
knew he got it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
When he was screaming, I knew he got it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And I said, as soon as I stopped, I said,
oh wow, my voice I got, I got, I got
four hours of fun to talk about with you. How
am I going to do this? And then you know,
my voice came back, and I had some tea already.
But I mean, really, how could you not be romantic
about baseball?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm not gonna lie. I know what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I was okay with missing these screaming and pony ride
or whatever the hell you were doing that you would
have been doing around the studio here.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So so that's okay.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
The fact that you still have a voice a little
bit surprising because I figured through the first seven plus
innings you would have been cursing a lot. Oh well,
the first seven innings you didn't know what any seven
they did nothing either.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Look, the first seven innings was okay.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It was tense playoff baseball and it's games, and I
remember as a kid, every game was nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Nothing in the sixth thing when you were a kid in.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Bad everybody was usually the same two pitchers on the mound, right, yes, wait,
who the hell's out there now?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, he just changed number five.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Here's Larry Gura at one hundred and twenty eight pitches
and Jim Palmer at one hundred and thirty seven pitches.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right, that's what it was. You got ga in that good. Yeah.
But but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's back and forth, and I'm watching the game, and
I and what do I always say? And to everybody
who's listened to us the last few nights, list, lets
we talk about baseball like a boy. Those guys really
know what they're talking about. What do I always say?
When you go to the playoffs and you decide you're
going to continue to change pictures in your bullpen, you're
eventually going to find the guy who it's not his day.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And yes, the Brewers went to their closer, but that's
supposed to be not right. But it was not his day.
But this doesn't fit the description of the no. But
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, But here's the thing is that you admirers throwing bebies.
He comes out after five innings when he was just
throwing filthy stuff. He was getting that low strike every
time up right, I mean, there was nobody even close
to touching, and he could have kept going.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He could have pitched a complete game. Yea though, yeah,
but you would a guy, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But then you bring in McGill, right, who throws a
hundred and throws seven pitches and gets out of the
sixth inning. Nope, We're going to the next guy, and
the next guy and the next guy. It's just gonna happen.
Not that Williams might not have pitched the ninth inning,
but this is how it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
They decided we.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Have the best boat, we're gonna continue to go to
guys in the bullpen when we don't have to. And
and you found the guy. And it's unfortunate that you
found your closer. But that's what happened today. But the
whole game, I'm saying, Okay, as soon as Myers came out,
I felt so much better.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I'm like, they're not touching him.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
At Lindor had that leadoff sing that leadoff double, he
should have got thrown out at but he'd wound up
getting in there and and knocking the ball out. But
after that, like the Mets are doing nothing. I'm saying
myself after five innings, they could play twenty innings. The
Mets aren't gonna score in this game like they are there.
It's not that they haven't bad at batches. The Brewers
are throwing lights out, man, everybody. But I said, eventually,
you're gonna find that guy.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
They even go back to Freddie Peralta, who was pretty good. Okay,
you're gonna find that guy. And they found the guy
and it turned out to be the closer. And again
not that you weren't gonna go to him anyway, but
still you had a lot, You had a lot of guys.
Where why are we changing pitchers and we don't have
to right, why are we doing We don't know when
these guys are pitching so incredibly Well, it's just gonna
happen that way. And they found the guy. Look, the
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Mets found the guy. They got him right out of
the game. Jose Buddo not his day and say, okay,
come on out. Three batters, you're out of the game.
Two home runs, one guy hitting a buck ninety nine,
one guy with two home runs the entire year. I'm like, boy,
not his day, really, not his day. When those are
the two guys that take him deep. But that's what
But that's how it goes, and that's every playoff.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Just look at those One of those guys is not
gonna be not gonna have his day in here. It
was your closer who had given up one home run
all year. Now make it too.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Who is the other home run? To say it?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Uh? The other home run was too And I can
say it because I feel fine because we won the trade.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Jared Kelmick hit the home run off for Garret Kelnick.
The other thing.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I mean, so it's been ten minutes about you. I'm
gonna make it about me for a second once again.
The White Sox having fantastic impact on these playoffs. As
Kinana gives you six scoreless.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He was great today.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
He was give you all my I really thought, I said, boy,
if his pitch count was lower, they would just let
him out there to go to Dah Sure, because the
Brewers were rolling over every one of his off speed
and breaking pitches. They were just reaching and rolling over
and everything was a weak ground or to the left side.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
He was.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
He was incredible today and he was someone who I
didn't even know if he'd be pitching when he came
down because he had that really bad stretch and then
finally had a really good stretch to end the season,
and it was like, Okay, the whole year is on you,
now go do it. And he's fantastic for six innings.
It was just Look, when the ninth inning came, I
was happy with whatever was going to happen, right. I
was calm because I said, you know what, the top
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of the order is coming up here. This is exactly
what this is exactly what we want. And when f
Lindor gets on, I'll feel really really good. Because Lindor
gets on, the Brewers are going to get really generating.
He's the guy, and Lindor big hit to start it off,
and all of a sudden, Jitry, jittery. Nimo with the
big hit and they go deep into every count and
Williams falls behind all the batters. That's when you can
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tell Nerves and other outside influencer getting into this situation.
Alonzo with the dinger and they tack on the the
extra run as well. Oh, by the way, Jesse Winker
have police protection when you get into the parking lot.
I think the entire city of Milwaukee's gonna be looking
for you. They're not gonna be I would say you
probably with you blank blanking the entire time.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
For you, man, we'd actually just you know, set up
a brawl in the parking lot, uh, sanctioned by somebody.
I man, I'm plenty of fight promoters would get on
board that one. Uh this subplot. But you know, back
to Alonso, back to the start of all of this.
You know, just a guy who, as you look at
his career and what he's done, because even this year
thirty four home runs, eighty eight rbi, it's not a
whole lot you can do with the you know, the
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eighty eight RBI if guys aren't getting on base, or
Lindor's cleaning things up, whatever the case is.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
That in the.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Two forty batting average was actually what twenty points higher
than it was a year ago. Uh, just didn't drive
in many runs and to your point, struggled down the
stretch to where everybody was ready to say goodbye. So
you get into this situation, you know, best on best right.
So that's where I would believe you with that piece
of calm, if you're gonna go down, it's the Homer
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Simpson going and getting beaten up by the carnies right
when they beat him and they take over his house,
and then Homer tricks them, gets back in the house
after they were squatting, and the guy voiced by the
late great Jim Varney goes, Son, we were beaten by
the best. It's like that guy was it. It's like
we were beaten by the best. So he went best
on best, and Pete Alonso comes through with a monster
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shot for you to advance. Now you have the big
battle against the affilies. I mean, how great is this
for baseball? Steve De Sager and I were talking before
the show, hanging out watching as that home run was launched.
He's kind of laughed and smiled, you know, Steve, the
big baseball fan that he is. It's like, all right,
everybody's happy. We got a couple of big markets getting
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after it. And the animosity continues, the fun story, a
couple of fun guys. Jackson Juria is gonna be a star.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, not the same juice. Now we get Mets phills.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Let's go oh man outside, Pete Alonzo right now running
over to all the fans, all the Mets fans that
made the trip doing interviews on the field.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I really four in the ninth to win.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean, I am more dead than I was on
Monday after the Lindor home run and they get in
against the Braves. Think about this, this is just this
is four nights, no except for the Mets. This is
four nights for the Mets. And again, this stuff doesn't
happen to me. This does not happen to me, man
I do. I got that moment on Monday, I said, Okay,
that's oh. I really enjoyed the hell out of that
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because I got about five years so I got umber
like that. Nope, four days later, I get another moment,
even better because we're moving on into playoffs, and it
was it's I can't believe it. I know two things
are gonna happen now because of this. I know what
Syracuse is gonna lose by fifty tomorrow Agan's NLV and
the Jets gonna lose by fifty on Sunday against the Vikings,
and Darnold's gonna throw for four touchdowns. I don't care.
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I don't care. I have this, I have tonight. I
have this. I have et Alonzo going yickity in the
ninth when it looked like the season was over. Well,
based on your normal schedule, you won't be awake to
watch the Jets, so you won't have to experience the
pain live. It'll just be the fantasy updates or my
mocking texts that you wake up to. Uh but oh no, no,
I'll get up to watch when the Jets played the
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early game on time. I don't of course again, then
I'll go back to sleep. I mean, then'll go back
to sleep. Yeah, you know that's how it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Okay, as long as we've got that straight.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
But I mean, we just look at the divisional round
as set up is. It's everything you can want, right
because we joked about it. The KC Yankee matchup, we
get all the George Brett and all the playoff battles
of years past. We get to bring all that footage
back in and go in a time capsule. We get
the Dodgers and the Padres where the smack talking and
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ticket sales and everything else. We've already got that going on.
Now we get this.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Come on, you have the Yankees, which you need. You
have the Tigers, which is the best.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Story in the baseball this year, right at big market team,
and you have four teams in the National League that
absolutely hate each other, that hate each other.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
So I didn't mean to dismiss the Guardians and Tigers,
but no, no, let's about what it is. They still
rank fourth as much as it is a battle of
you know, the White Sox seasons and trials on display.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And I'll tell you my phone is.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I always say, whenever something like this happens with the
it's like, it's like my birthday. Now, it's like my
birthday and Christmas and Father's Day, My birthday, Christmas and
Father's Day with I don't get like people are like,
oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Wait you guy notices on Father's Day. No, no, people wish
me happy father. How about that? Yeah you know, I'm
for you. Yeah yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But I actually I actually got one from a friend
of mine that I talked to all abut said to me,
oh my god, did you see that.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I want to say, come on, man, I should say, no,
what happened? I don't. I don't know what what happened.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
You know, I love sports. I'm an insurance adjuster. I
don't fantend anymore. So I'm out of the site right now.
It's a Friday night and there's a there's there's a
lot of mud you know, coming out of this uh
the back of this house. Here it all, it all
got shot up like it's been bad monkey with you
know what the.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well Vince, I mean when you get on ahan sorry
this house. Yeah, that's what I do now. Yes, I've
loved sports behind. Yeah, I don't do that anymore. I'm
gonna I'm in a new phase of my life. That's
that's not who I am anymore. I've moved on. I've
moved on in my life.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Instead, you're more insane than ever. Yes, and yeah you
get a match up with the Pills again. Hate division
rivalries and history everything we could want going into the
divisional series.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And house money, Man and house money. I read this
is some kind of week.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You'll still ride the lightning with it and we'll have
to talk you off the ledge if that comes to that.
But for the moment, come on, this is insane. A
ninth inning, three yearround home run by the Polar Bear.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And now and now it's like, oh okay, now, hey,
let's talk contract Steve Cohen.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Sure here you go one hundred million a year. Well,
it really comes down like forty million, now a hundred million,
a hundred million a year. Now he deserves that.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Maybe maybe he fires Boris like Montgomery did when things
don't go so well. It really just comes down to this,
U does does signing Je Soto preclude them from signing
po Back?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh, an unbelievable night. Again, how can you not be
romantic about baseball?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You're still on the hook for dinner tonight even if
he didn't you know, walk in.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I mean not in Milwaukee, but you know, I mean
outside of how could you not be romantic about baseball?
We'll continue to have reaction from this game. You hear
from Francisco and door. Pat Murphy is hitting the podium
right now and looking exactly how you'd expect the Brewers
manager to look after falling in three games here in
the first round of the playoffs. And oh, by the way,
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keeping alive the streak. The team that's won the first
game every best of three playoffs has won every single series.
Still I told you last night, Oh that's gonna come
to Metsic, gonna screw that up tomorrow, that's coming to
an end. Nope, that streak is still alive. After the
win tonight, the champagne is pouring in the Mets clubhouse
right now. There they're all wearing I think they're all
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wearing custom made goggles by New Era, Like, I bet
you can buy these on the New Era site now,
Like they're all like the big champagne goggles and you
see the New Era logo on the side, like where
they are on baseball hats. So I think you probably,
I bet you could buy these. Hey Man, celebrate like
a pro with these New Era show. Oh, give me
a pair of those shades. I'm gonna start pouring someone
my face.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I'm looking at I'm looking at Poshmark right now. New
Era goggles. They're out of stock, which means it doesn't
show me the price. Oh it's two hundred bucks. Oh,
which means the Mets bought all of them. This was
someone someone sold them, was here in Los Angeles. New
Era goggles twenty nineteen MLB Playoffs, Dodgers locker room game
used Oh bucks, I mean, come.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
On, So there it is.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Mets beat the Brewers in one of the greatest games
of the season. They've played two of them in the
span of the last four days. We'll have more on
this coming up and we'll get into Thursday Night football,
where if you like points, if you like offense, you
really love what's going on right now.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Bucks lead the Falcons twenty four to twenty.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Midway through the third quarter, Baker Mayfield has thrown for
three touchdowns. Kirk Cousins is already over three hundred yards,
saving his job for another couple of weeks. We'll have
more on this coming up next. Right here, we are
just getting started on maybe the greatest Thursday Night in
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
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you had your last hour. Here's where we sit right now.
One second to go in the fourth quarter, the Falcons
will be attempting a fifty two yard field goal. Young,
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way cool, try to tie this game and send it
to overtime. Kirk Cousins completes a pass and gets the
ball spiked with one second left on the clock.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Little bit of hometown clock me a little bud.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It looked like they got the spike down with one
second left to go.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Young Wayku comes out for the field goal.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
The play clock ticks down to zero and you're thinking, oh,
that's a penalty.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
They're gonna move it back.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Turns out the play clock was started early, so they
figured that controversy out. Raheem Morris I thought was gonna
have some kind of attack on the field when they
were gonna.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Move him back five yards.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
However, they realized, okay, we didn't start the play clock
at the right time. They were able to reset the
clock and Young waykup is good. From fifty two yards.
It is thirty to thirty. We are going to overtime
in Atlanta. A great drive by the Falcons with no timeouts.
Kirk Cousins now up over four hundred and forty yards
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passing on the night. He is thirty nine out of
fifty five, and now we have overtime between the Bucks
and the Falcons.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Now they did get the delay of game, doesn't matter.
Young Way coup for the second straight week comes up big.
Remember he did have a miss earlier in the game,
and even after a penalty gave him an extra chance
at and he missed that one as well. So on
that there's a little bit of controversy brewing over a
play where there was a holding call on Barton second
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and thirteen at the Atlanta thirty one. On the prior possession,
Bucky Irving got ridden down like he was at the rodeo.
In other words, guy grabbed his face mask and bowled
him straight to the ground, square in the middle of
the field. No call, but the holding call gets enforced.
And as we know, holding calls will kill a lot
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of drives that you have the subsequent pont and now
this drama as we head to overtime. So the officials
making their way into the game once again.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
There we go, good Joe, good after we're getting ready
for overtime again. We're going to the we're going to
overtime now. And what Kirk Cousins has done. We spent
some time last hour talking about Baker Mayfield. Now let's
get into Kirk for a little bit here. Uh, he
is having an incredible night throwing the foot. Okay, London
and Mooney are having great nights. London's got one hundred
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and thirty yards receiving, Mooney's got one hundred and five
yards receiving.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Even Kyle Pitch is catching passing.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, remember when Kyle Pitch is gonna be the greatest
tight end of the history of the game.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
He was generational, he was transformative those he was everything.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, but today he's at least got seven catches.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
You know who's still done nothing. Hejon. He was supposed
to be the master of the universe.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
B John's got sixty yards rushing. He's caught three passes.
I mean, look, when you're throwing the ball fifty five times,
there's not paying time for run the football.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Hey, first or second overall pick fantasy foot But they
don't care about your fifty throwing times. They don't care
about that. He got ten points. That's what I'm expecting
out of my second flex spot. Man, you have overtime.
We have overtime coming up. Now you have chance for
more points here.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Which means he's gonna keep throwing it you more.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Hey, Kirk Cousins does not care about your fantasy team,
Mike Carbon, Well, he does.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Because he's actually the quarterback on one of my fantasy
he does not care.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
He loved me today.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Drake London also had left this game for a short
time in the second quarter as well, went on into
the old tent before coming back out. He's got ten catches.
Just an amazing game overall, and who knew that Baker
Mayfield had the wheels that he does.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
He's got forty two rushing yards. Man.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Now, as far as Cousins goes h he absolutely needed
this game.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Right. We talked about this going into the season.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Whatever the money Kirk Cousins is getting from the Falcons,
he is a bridge quarterback to get to Michael Pennick junior. Right,
it doesn't matter what he's getting paid. All of that
is irrelevant. In fact, any time I see a take
from someone says, well, he's gonna start all year, No,
you just don't even I don't know what you know
about football. If he starts out poorly, Michael Pennick shooter
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is going to get a chance.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
He's a first round pick that looked really good all
summer long. The desire to see him on the field
when he has won the team over with how he
played in the preseason. It's going to be immense, and
through four games, Kirk Cousins has been.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
He had a pretty good game against the Eagles right
on Monday Night, week two of the season. Right, it
was a national television So hey, okay, Kirk Cousins did
he did?
Speaker 5 (23:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
That was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He kind of saved his job for a couple of
weeks here, But then he had a bad week against
Kansas City and a worst week last week against the Saints,
only bailed out by the fact as team won, they
had no offensive touchdowns. He had a horrible game, but
they But Cousins has not been good this season. He
has had three awful games and one good one. This
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game tonight saves his job again for another couple of weeks,
Like his game against Philadelphia Monday night, week two after
they lost to the Steelers to start the season. That
saved his job for another two three weeks. Right, we
talked about at the tip, Hey Cousins saved his job?
Well you know what that was coming up empty again? Hey,
Kirk is not the same guy. He's not throwing he's
not throwing the football downfield. Enough, what is happening? Well,
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tonight he has now saved that job for the next
few weeks. Right now now, Kirk Cousins I think will
easily get into mid season. Before that, potentially you could
hear coming up again. Hey, is Kirk still a guy
we're gonna we're gonna go forward with or look, if
the Falcons start losing, they may want to see Penix
no matter what. But but right now, what Kirk Cousins
has done is he has extended his time as a
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starting quarterback probably through week eight, week nine ish of
the season, because he has been absolutely electric Tonight, is
in sync with all his big playmakers again, turning Kyle
Pitts into the tight end we thought he was going
to be like eight years ago, Like this is Kyle
Pitch is gonna be so good when he goes it, Boy,
Kyle Pitch is kind of a bus Nope, not tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Seven catches eighty eight yards.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Kirk Cousins absolutely needed this game more than anybody else,
and he's getting it right now.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I mean, you get a w here and obviously we're
watching this unfold. Nine minutes remaining in overtime. They're attending
to London after another reception. You're now at three and
two and you're tied with Tampa for the division lead.
With the tiebreaker, they'll meet again, and I think it's
three or four weeks right the end of October, they'll
be at Tampa Bay again. Stupid schedule makers, let's get
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this out of the way before the first half of.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
The season ends.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Dopes, But as well as most of your division game,
you gotta have it. There's gotta be some balance here anyway,
the point being that you've got to stretch here at
Carolina next. Then you've got Seattle at home, the aforementionined
game against the Buccaneers on the road Dallas and whatever
they are at that point to start November, and then
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on the road at New Orleans. So some winnable games,
a lot of division games, a lot of opportunity to
make Hay here and playing against some banged up defenses.
So the other thing is you're still rounding into shape
with the continuity and consistency with this squad, right, new
new team, new offense with Zach Robinson and really starting
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to find that timing.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And as we say this, Kirk Cousins has saved his job. Yeah,
we're going to overtime.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
It is over. It is over.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
In Atlanta. The Falcons win it thirty six point thirty.
Kirk Cousins throws it was probably about a thirty five
yard touchdown. I want to say to Cadaryl Hodge, who
had caught a couple of passes, I'll call it one
pass earlier in the game. He outruns everybody.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeh, forty five yard deal.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He catches a slant that looks like, Okay, this is
gonna put the Falcons in field goal range.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Right the Falcons get the.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Snap to start overtime, They get the ball to start overtime,
and they're moving down the field.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Okay. He throws a slant in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
To Hodge, who catches it and it looks like, oh,
this is gonna be a first down. They're gonna be
inside the thirty yard line. And he just runs away
from everybody in the middle of the field in for
the game winning touchdown and incredibly electric moment. Right now,
the Falcons win at thirty six thirty. Kirk Cousins forty
two for fifty eight, five hundred and nine.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yards and four touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Take that ped Alonzo you think you on the night
on Kirk Cousins, I have that room under the stairs
of my house that I gonna put footballs in five
hundred and nine yards passing.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You beat that, ped Alonzo.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Do we get to do a ceremony where that game
ball gets put in that little uh? I don't know
Cavin under the stairs that he's built out there.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I think you might have to.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Maybe it's delivered by Daniel Radcliffe as an ice, now
Harry Potter, or it.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Comes sliding through a mailbox.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But yeah, prime time Captain Kirk getting it done in
front of the home crowd. They celebrated Matt Ryan on
his legacy and career at halftime, gave a speech and
now you've got an absolute pandemonium. Just a cool scene
in the post game, everybody rocking along and Kirk leading
the way.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It is the fifteenth most passing yards in a game
in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I did this math really used.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It is the fifteenth most yards passing in a game.
You have fourteen players who have thrown from more than
five hundred and nine yards. Still the leader Norm van
Brocklin back in nineteen nineteen fifty one. Back in the
way they threw that. Yes, apparently they ran an offense
that was way ahead of its sign Nough Van Brocklin
for the Rams in a win, through for five hundred
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and fifty four yards on to twenty seven completions.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Right, how about that bait? That is still the record.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Matt shawb made a big run at it about about
ten or twelve years ago in a game against the Jaguars,
and we've had a few games since then. Joe Burrow
was up at five twenty five a couple of years ago.
He was really close.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
But this is the.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Fifteenth highest total in a game in NFL history, tying
him with Vince Ferragamo.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
How about that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Also through for five hundred and nine yards on December
twenty sixth, nineteen eighty two, in a game against Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Bears the Chicago Bears. There you go. It all comes
full circle, buddy, It.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
All comes back to me on the downside of things.
Is that what you're trying to say, sad Sack existence, Yeah,
that's what it was. Hodge not to be confused with
Hobbs and Shaw.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
No Hodge, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I mean Hodge was also I mean Hodges was on
criminal minds, so we could do that.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Oh you know, I actually saw him once Thomas Jimpson.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, no, no, no, al does Hodge that That's one of
my favorite celebrity sightings of all time was Alvis Hodge
because he was Voodoo on Voodoo Tatum on Friday Night Lights.
He was a quarterback that came in that was gonna
take over, like he came in from another It's like
it was a great storyline where he had to change
schools and he was really highly recruited and they grab
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him like as a mercenary quarterback. He's gonna play this
season and he doesn't get along with the coach and
he runs his own plays and everything else. And he
was so good in this role, like he wouldn't do
what Kyle Chandler want him to do, and like he
he calls an audible that winds up running running for
a touchdown and Kyle Chandler yells at him.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And goes, will run the plays I call and.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And he just looks at him really calmly and goes scoreboard, coach, scoreboard.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
He was so good, right, So he's.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So good in that, you know he's had a great career.
Alde Hodge after that, and I saw him on Venice
Beach like not too long after this, and I walked
by it, and I wanted to go, I.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Got Voodoo Fever because that was a big line for him.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
The nick name was Voodoo and the Cararacs will say
I got Voodoo Fever because he was so good. I
was gonna do that, and I'm like, I I can't
do that. I'm forty years old. I can't I count
forty and he's twenty five.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I can't walk by it and go I got Voodoo
do it. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
No, come on, man, you're parn Hollywood. They we're on
air every night. It's it's, you know, theater in the
mind that we bring here. I mean, come on, I
just took us down the deep dark path of criminal
minds and hodging her and everything else. We got craziness,
but Hodge with I mean, like you said, turn down
the turbo jets there And there's already like fifteen memes
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of Captain Kirk from Tonight making the rounds on the interwebs.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I mean, what an incredible moment. He just runs away
from everybody five oh nine. Who man, I'll tell you
so you got Hodge got cousins, He got a lots
and a lot of heroes tonight in Mike.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Car But he do have lots of heroes. You know,
how else we got what else? Steve de Seger. Oh,
he's gonna tell us what's trending.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And I guarantee you he's very mad at me because
I guarantee you he had some kind of stat abouttle
five hundred yard passers in NFL history. No, no, what
about the great researcher Sarah langs Well I ever said
about it.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
This is the most by any passer in the NFL
this season. We know that, and they did say for
Kirk Cousins, this is his career high of five hundred
nine yards passing and that game winner in overtime forty
five yard touchdown pass to Cadaryl Hodge, Hodge with the
last forty yards on his own after he spun away
from the defender and raced to the end zone. Atlanta
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beats Tampa Bay in overtime thirty six to thirty. Kirk
Cousins four touchdown passes, one interception, Drake London twelve catches,
one hundred and fifty four yards and a score. And
for those who did not play Darnell Mooney in fantasy,
in the gate for Atlanta today. He was targeted sixteen
times and had nine receptions for one hundred five yards
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and two tds in this win. A combined forty nine
first downs in this game, nearly nine hundred yards combined
in this game. The Falcons are three and two. The
Bucks fall to three and two. Baker mayfield three touchdown
passes in the first half, two to Mike Evans, and
let's not forget why we had overtime. The Falcons tied
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it after spiking the ball with one second left and
getting the field goal team out there, tying it on
a fifty two yard field goal on the final play
of regulation. The Chiefs places wide receiver Rashid Rice on
injury reserve. He'll have further testing on his knee by
next week after the swelling goes down. Kansas City running
back Isaiah Pacheco is already on IR as his wide receiver.
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Hollywood Brown Chiefs running back Kareem Hunt was limited in
practice today with a bad shoulder. Texans running back Joe
Mixon did not practice due to his bad ankle. Colt's
running back Jonathan Taylor missed practice with an ankle injury.
Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson was limited today with the oblique injury.
Running back of the Giants, Devin Single Terry did not
practice groin injury. Giants wide receiver Molik Neighbors did not
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practice due to his concussion, and for Washington, running back
Brian Robinson missed practice with a bad knee. Washington running
back Austin Eckler did practice fully after his concussion. To
Major League Baseball, the Mets are still alive. They scored
four runs in the top of the ninth at Milwaukee
to eliminate the Brewers, ending the Wildcard round with a
four to two win. Pete Alonzo a three run homer
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in the top of the ninth. Jose Quintada the Mets
six scoreless innings as a starter no decision is ninety
four pitches helped set the way the win, eventually to
closer Edwin Diaz, who pitched in the seventh and eighth innings.
The Phillies host their Division Series Game one this Saturday
against the Mets on Fox TV four pm Eastern Time.
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The Reds are hiring Terry Francona as manager, who stepped
down in Cleveland a year ago. Caitlin Clark is the
WNBA Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Back to you.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Thank you, steveo all had all this stuff planned. We'll
talk about kateln and Clark winning Rookie of the Year.
You know, Sam Darnold saying some amazing great about the
Jets today. Antonio Pierce is never going to be allowed
to coach in college again. And then the Mets and
the Falcons happen, and look like, I look what happens?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
He here you go.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Some of the tweets that are starting to flow to
are great because some of them are roasting Kirk's former
team in the process.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon coming up next,
we'll have more on the biggest, most emotional stories of
the night.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Right here. It is an unbelievable Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Keeping here Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio's.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
On the win man. How's it feel?
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Hey, hey, right right? Can you hear us?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
How you doing it? Are you coming down from that
win yet? Are you still going crazy?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
There?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I saw you?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Hey, tell me what's going through your mind? The final
player regulation you're trying to get down there? To spike
the football. Know, you were in the middle of everything
trying to get lined up. What happens in that situation.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Shoot, make a play, man, that's on the whole drive.
I want to I wanted to make a play and
know whether it's me or my teammates just blogging form. Uh,
I know whoever touch the ball was gonna make a play. Uh.
And you know, and just trusting each other. And then
I know Kirk the poise he has, he's gonna lead
the offense down where we need to be at and
we just got to finish.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
The report coming out that Zach Robinson changed the play
call to go to the middle of the field as well, Uh,
thinking that Kirk would get up there to spike it.
Really trusted his legs to get him up to the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah. Uh, and that's that's we pattered that all the time. Man,
them last we know these type of games don't end
like that, you know, especially being saying the Vision game,
you're gonna you know, it's gonna be a crunch time game. Uh,
let it know overtime and then letting Red do a
thing in the game like that cooll walk off.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Hey is Hodge the fastest guy in the team, because
I can't believe how we ran away from everybody.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Let's playing overtime.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
It was insane and we can argue that how he
was moving.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
How much guys, you guys get ready to leave the field.
How much do you stand and watch the crowd? I
mean the sway surfing and everything that we're doing. That
was pretty crazy atmosphere there right.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Rack, Yeah, and atmosphere was crazy, man. One of the
best Iff been around from just the whole game, halftime,
just being bringing our energy up, you know. And it's
big to have a fan base like that.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Are you guys ever going to have like a boring
game where you win like twenty four to seven. Every
game comes down to the end and overtime the final play,
Like you guys are riding the roller coaster this year.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Yeah, you know it's the man. They played ball on
the side. I think our first two games and stuff,
all the great teams did I mean to be honest,
every NFL team is an any any game a Sunday
could beat you and you got going to play excute
and uh, bugs did a thing. You know. We came
out on top, you know, but we gotta see them,
see them again and uh act even better.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, just another couple of weeks, you guys will see
them again. But massive offensive numbers. What's it like to
be part of this high client offense week to week
as the game plan gets installed, you know, licking your
chops for your opportunities.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
It's a blessing man, just having Kirk Kevin a vet
being being competing with uh Red Mooney Drake, Uh see
Chris Chris Blair cat Chase just every day, uh getting
better at practicing, done, being hungry, competing, making each other better. Uh,
it's been great, man, with the old lines, just watching them,
the dogs in the front, the running backs win the ball.
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It's just it's fun.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Man.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Everything's just been clicking. It's about not killing ourselves on
the first downs. And I feel like sometimes we were
shout ourselves on the foot when we get some get
some movements and momentum, and we just gotta cut those
few things that I think and execute on third down,
which we I think we did pretty well. Account to
look at the fats and stuff for that, but I think.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
We won the game.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
So either way or that we want the game there
you go.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
But yeah, do you want me to look, I got
six third Yeah, you got six out of four. We'll
give you stats if you need. Tell me any starts
two three from fourth down though so just six catches
for sixty six yards and incredible win. Falcons win at
thirty six thirty over the Bucks in overtime. Ray Ray
mcclod thanks a bunch of stopping by, best luck, rets
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of the way. We'll talk to you down the road,
all right, Ray Ray McCloud.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
He wants stacks man.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I mean they were six and fourteen third down efficiency,
but two of three on fourth down, and when it mattered,
they made the play to help send things to overtime.
And like you said, with Hodge Man turbo jets, because
he turned it on and was gone.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Is he the fact? We can argue that is he
the We can argue that if you want to argue
we can. All right, we got to line up a race.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Captain Kirk could fire off the starting pistol.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Uh. That's that is good stuff there from Ray Ray mcleody.
Look catches, everybody caught passing, everybody, everybody is there. But look,
but you know, back the point we had before, we
you know we we got we got Ray McLoud and
thanks to him for stopping by.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Is that you know, watching this is certain things.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
It just feels like when something is being done right
and when something's being done wrong, and it kind of
felt wrong. It kind of feels wrong that each team
is not guaranteed the football. And the old you know,
in overtime, and the old adage and the old argument
was always well the other team that you could score
on defense, You can score defensively.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
You can do that like that.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
It's like, okay, how often does a team don't don't
tell me that, man, how often does a team score
on defen How often do you get a fumble return
for a touchdown or a pick six?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
It doesn't happen that often.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yes, stopping the other team, I get it right, You
stop any other team and getting the ball, that's a thing.
But there you can't tell me that the team that
has the ball has a huge advantage to win a game.
It's like in Major League base when you see that,
but tendon's a chance to win the game. You win
the toss in overtime, you're about like seventy five percent, right, Like,
so having the ball is a huge advantage.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
So you can't tell me, oh, you could stop, you
could score on Devinen.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
That doesn't happen that often, right, You get you get
maybe a couple of those plays every week in the NFL.
So I think when it comes to overtime eventually, they're
gonna probably get there to this because it's it's the
fairest thing, especially coming off a game like tonight where
both offenses.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Were rolling right, like you know Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
You know, they had a huge night, you know, running
the football, they ran for one hundred and sixty yards,
they threw fo one hundred and seventy yards. You know,
I see a game like tonight and I go, it
can't the NFL just say, listen, we're gonna make it fair.
Everybody gets the ball once in overtime, right, everybody gets
the ball once. It's how it goes, and and and
whatever happens. We play the game that way, but each
team will get the ball once in overtime, just to
make it fairest, because it's it's still it's still not
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fair this way the way they do it. And I
feel like the NFL is just kind of pieced meal
it out. Going all right, We're gonna just do overtime.
But first score wins. Okay, the field goal is not fair.
Oh now it's gonna be. But if it's a touchdown,
it's fair. But then in the playoffs it's different and
each team gets the ball. It's like, just have uniform
rules in overtime. Yeah, team gets the ball one.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
I mean the argument and this is where we always
get into those difficult arguments when we come to the NFL,
and the words quote player safety unquote are strung together
because that's been part of the argument of why you
do it this way?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Right, you score the touchdown, it's over, there's no more series.
You don't run out the clock.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Because the other thing is I'd just say you play
some you know, decided amount of time, and however it ends,
it ends.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
But you know, maybe I'm a sadist.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
People would tell me that if I wanted to just say,
all right, we're playing a full ten minutes regardless. But yeah,
I see your point. You know, the defense, you know,
has to make a play. And I tried to find
the stats. It was not easily accessible. So that's something
we'll get our crack staff working on. In terms of,
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you know, if you get the ball first, what's the
end game and the percentage of times that you actually
win the game, not only overall, but off that first possession.
But yeah, it does feel like a night like tonight
where the offenses are flowing as they did.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
That we got a bit cheated. No, I get that.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, I mean it's we should have asked Ray Ray
while we had them on lind Hey, do you think
they should have.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Gotten the ball?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
No?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
I love overtime. I'm just doing I'm going on far
the best. I was gonna ask him, can I have
your helmet? Those helmets were cool?
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, No, it's too bad. I mean I could tell
he had trouble hearing us, so we couldn't go as long.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Yeah, you know, there were a couple of a couple
of times where it seemed to get lost a little bit.
But no, good energy, good and good. I mean we've
had great success with guys this year. It's been great.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, but look, I mean that it's a night, you know,
it's a night for offense, and you see, Yes, it
doesn't seem fair. But I would say this even if
it was a game that ended, you know, twenty to
twenty to fourteen, You know, if that was the case,
because it's still it's just a.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Huge advantage for winning the coin flip. Right.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I still don't think that people understand you know, football,
and the NFL understands, Oh, okay, this is this is
how we're going to decide it. No, that's a big
deal to give one team the football and the other
team is not guaranteed to get it. It's you know,
I shrugged my shoulders and go okay. Whenever the NFL
does rule changes, they always do the same thing. They
always say, well, if we're gonna change this rule, we're
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not just gonna change it. We're gonna kind of dip
our toe in the water of it and see if
the see what the temperatures like, the temperature is okay,
then I'll put my foot in, and the temperatures still
a little better, I'll go in up to my knees,
like like when you watch your mom go swimming in
the public pool, and like she's just standing there with
the other moms like just up to their knees talking
like why don't you guys swim? No, we're just standing
in the shallow and talking probably about us.
Speaker 6 (44:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
But if it's too cold, oh, I'm getting out of
the water. Like that's how the NFL has done. This's like,
look at what they've done with the kickoff. The lad Okay,
we're gonna have the kickoff. We're gonna do this. You're
gonna kick off here. Now, you're gonna kick off from here.
Now we're gonna have people line up. And it looks
like the XFL, like the NFL is you know, they
still haven't found a way, like we can't make a
real strong change, and so the kickoff kind of is
what it is. And I feel like over time in
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the same way, well, it kind of it is what
it is.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Is it fair? No, it's not fair, but it's what
we have right now.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
But games like tonight where you know it's spending and
this is this is where this might push for change
more than anything. Because if it was a twenty to
fourteen game, well, okay, neither team's offense has played well,
this team drove down the field when they couldn't really
do it all night.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Hey, they deserve to win.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But a game like tonight where the offense is going
up and down the field of scoring, yeah, this is
one that pushes for that change because hey, it doesn't
feel right that Mayfield and the Bucks didn't get the football.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Yeah, I got a up in front of me. It's
a paper and honors thesis by a guy named Will Thurlow.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Now this is dated.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
It goes back to December of twenty twenty one. But hey,
for giggles and because you know we're nerds, it's an
honors thesis at Ball State University. It's thirty two pages
of math. But the summary is that there were one
hundred and fifty eight overtimes assessed sixty one percent. The
coin flip winner won the game. Now, I'd have to
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find the data points for the last couple of years
to extrapolate from their jason, but one hundred and fifty
eight was a pretty good sample size, certainly off the jump.
And it's Paul State, So we get shot up Ball
State in mathematics in football finding their intersection there I'll
have to go through because at least as I sit
here and try to read it quickly, I mean, it's
fuzzy math. There's a lot of equations in here. I'll
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have to dust off my calculus brain another time. But yeah, no,
I hear your point, and certainly in the Tampa guys,
are going forget about the overtime rules.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Where's my blankety blanket call on the face mask that
was obvious? Has the nose on your face? How about that? Sure?
Fix that first NFL char listen. I'm sorry, I thought
I was being brought in talking about NFL overtime rules.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
No, Mike Harbon has decided to hijack the conversation talk
about a face mask call that he's really upset about.
And why Bejeon Robinson doesn't get the football. He's gonna
ask about those things first and then we'll get to
the overtime rules.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Oh okay, oh great, right, Bijon is just oh, he's
just a guy right now.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
But and Captain Kirk is king spread it out, and
I mean they were running up five wide most of
the night. Hell, they were lining up five wide when
Drake London was in the tent. He eventually came back
and ran amuck once again. He was shaking up down
towards the end of the game. So we will keep
an eye on that as we get into the extended
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period after this week five opener. But man, what a
night of sports. Our colleague Doug Gottlieb goes over on
Twitter he goes, Dude, if this didn't do it for you,
then maybe sports is in your thing.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Maybe I'm just gonna go to the movies instead. That's
what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Exit out about a Fresca, exit swollen down the Jason
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And what it had to do with Pete Rose. Wait
what Yeah, a.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Little bit of a different topic coming up next when
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I am dead. I am dead after this game. I
didn't think i'd have a voice. After Alonzo's ball went out.
I was oddly calm. In the top of the ninth,
I tweeted out, I feel good, top of the order.
Pete's gonna come up maybe as last at bad as
I met, I oddly felt calm and bang, my goodness.
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I don't think my pulse rate got above one hundred
and fifty hundred and eighty. No, no higher than that
Mike Harmon maybe two hundred maybe maybe two twenty five too,
But I was oddly calm.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I don't think any of us believe you.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
We didn't get to see it, and we were trying
to get you on the closed circuit TV. You wouldn't
pick up to try to watch that final inning. As
it started to unfold, we were sitting in the you know,
all our different points here in the Fox Sports radio studios,
and the screaming began as the ball lifted up and
the sadness. A Brewer fan was brought in as Pete
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Alonzo circled the bases. His night was all about the
miss pop up down the first base.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Line and being mocked earlier.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
That was gonna be the meme that lived forever. Instead,
I'll be looking through the boxes to pull out the
ped Alonzo rookie cards for the forty eight hour sale
before the next round begins.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know, let me just say, because pedalons I mean,
this is like I always say, how can you not
be romantic about baseball?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Here's a guy who has been one of the best
superstars in the game the last year, is one of
the biggest home run hitters by all accounts. How he
carries himself. His teammates love him. He's a guy that
loves the game, and he is carried himself in a
really tough place to play when you don't win, which
is Queen's Uh, it's you know, he's.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Carried yourself with a lot of class. He comes in there.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I mean, how much expectations have there been for the
Mets during no, no, but.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Still but well there's no there's always every year, there's
always expect That's the worst part is there's never any
non expectation. There's always expectation, and then they break your
heart that that's what it is. I mean, that's it's
never anything else. There's always expect It's not like the Jets,
where sometimes you go, well, okay, we're gonna stink.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
By the way, send this guy out of town and
pick him up at the airport and take him to
it a while ago.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh no, Now you gotta pay him whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Cohen's got a pony, and.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Look, he has had an incredible run as a Met.
He hired Scott Boris as his agent, and when that happened,
I knew I was waving goodbye to him. Okay, he's
gonna go. Boris is gonna always takes his guys to
free agency. They always wind up with new teams. That's
just how it goes. You need you need any you
need more evidence. Look at what happened last year when
all four of Scott Rris' stars were out there at
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the end of spring training. The all to take lower
deals someplace else.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
We'll have a great Boris collusion conversation sometime in the future.
But he comes into this year. I just want to play,
and he has a bad year. He's an All Star
because by the All Star break, the Mets had just
started playing well, and you know, Lindor had not turned
into the second half freak that he was. And he
comes down the stretch and Alonso is awful. He has
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lost at the plate. I think he's had five hits
in his last seventeen games. He has not been good.
He has not been able to catch up to fastballs.
He has not been the same guy. I see his
body language up at the plate. It is not good.
And here he comes up with a chance, possibly the
last at bat he will ever have as a met,
the last at bat for the Mets all season. And
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when he swings got that pitch at three and one,
and I knew, I knew his confidence was back. At
three and one. I could tell, I think Pete's got
a little something here. He's feeling pretty good, because I
could tell earlier in the game when he was he
had a three and one count early in the game,
not feel confident that the top hand is coming off
the bat.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
He does not feel confident. But I could tell.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Look, I've seen a lot of Alonzo White bats the
last five years. I said, he's got he feels confident here.
And as soon as he hit that and he yelled,
I yelled. I never saw the ball go over the
fence the first time because I was screaming, because I
knew he got it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
When he was screaming, I knew he got it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And I said, as soon as I stopped, I said,
oh wow, my voice I got, I got, I got
four hours of fun to talk about with you. How
am I going to do this? And then you know,
my voice came back, and I had some tea already.
But I mean, really, how could you not be romantic
about baseball?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm not gonna lie. I know what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I was okay with missing these screaming and pony ride
or whatever the hell you were doing that you would
have been doing around the studio here.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So so that's okay.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
The fact that you still have a voice a little
bit surprising because I figured through the first seven plus
innings you would have been cursing a lot. Oh well,
the first seven innings you didn't know what any seven
they did nothing either.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Look, the first seven innings was okay.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It was tense playoff baseball and it's games, and I
remember as a kid, every game was nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Nothing in the sixth thing when you were a kid in.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Bad everybody was usually the same two pitchers on the mound, right, yes, wait,
who the hell's out there now?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, he just changed number five.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Here's Larry Gura at one hundred and twenty eight pitches
and Jim Palmer at one hundred and thirty seven pitches.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right, that's what it was. You got ga in that good. Yeah.
But but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's back and forth, and I'm watching the game, and
I and what do I always say? And to everybody
who's listened to us the last few nights, list, lets
we talk about baseball like a boy. Those guys really
know what they're talking about. What do I always say?
When you go to the playoffs and you decide you're
going to continue to change pictures in your bullpen, you're
eventually going to find the guy who it's not his day.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And yes, the Brewers went to their closer, but that's
supposed to be not right. But it was not his day.
But this doesn't fit the description of the no. But
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, But here's the thing is that you admirers throwing bebies.
He comes out after five innings when he was just
throwing filthy stuff. He was getting that low strike every
time up right, I mean, there was nobody even close
to touching, and he could have kept going.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He could have pitched a complete game. Yea though, yeah,
but you would a guy, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But then you bring in McGill, right, who throws a
hundred and throws seven pitches and gets out of the
sixth inning. Nope, We're going to the next guy, and
the next guy and the next guy. It's just gonna happen.
Not that Williams might not have pitched the ninth inning,
but this is how it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
They decided we.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Have the best boat, we're gonna continue to go to
guys in the bullpen when we don't have to. And
and you found the guy. And it's unfortunate that you
found your closer. But that's what happened today. But the
whole game, I'm saying, Okay, as soon as Myers came out,
I felt so much better.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I'm like, they're not touching him.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
At Lindor had that leadoff sing that leadoff double, he
should have got thrown out at but he'd wound up
getting in there and and knocking the ball out. But
after that, like the Mets are doing nothing. I'm saying
myself after five innings, they could play twenty innings. The
Mets aren't gonna score in this game like they are there.
It's not that they haven't bad at batches. The Brewers
are throwing lights out, man, everybody. But I said, eventually,
you're gonna find that guy.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
They even go back to Freddie Peralta, who was pretty good. Okay,
you're gonna find that guy. And they found the guy
and it turned out to be the closer. And again
not that you weren't gonna go to him anyway, but
still you had a lot, You had a lot of guys.
Where why are we changing pitchers and we don't have
to right, why are we doing We don't know when
these guys are pitching so incredibly Well, it's just gonna
happen that way. And they found the guy. Look, the
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Mets found the guy. They got him right out of
the game. Jose Buddo not his day and say, okay,
come on out. Three batters, you're out of the game.
Two home runs, one guy hitting a buck ninety nine,
one guy with two home runs the entire year. I'm like, boy,
not his day, really, not his day. When those are
the two guys that take him deep. But that's what
But that's how it goes, and that's every playoff.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Just look at those One of those guys is not
gonna be not gonna have his day in here. It
was your closer who had given up one home run
all year. Now make it too.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Who is the other home run? To say it?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Uh? The other home run was too And I can
say it because I feel fine because we won the trade.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Jared Kelmick hit the home run off for Garret Kelnick.
The other thing.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I mean, so it's been ten minutes about you. I'm
gonna make it about me for a second once again.
The White Sox having fantastic impact on these playoffs. As
Kinana gives you six scoreless.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He was great today.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
He was give you all my I really thought, I said, boy,
if his pitch count was lower, they would just let
him out there to go to Dah Sure, because the
Brewers were rolling over every one of his off speed
and breaking pitches. They were just reaching and rolling over
and everything was a weak ground or to the left side.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
He was.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
He was incredible today and he was someone who I
didn't even know if he'd be pitching when he came
down because he had that really bad stretch and then
finally had a really good stretch to end the season,
and it was like, Okay, the whole year is on you,
now go do it. And he's fantastic for six innings.
It was just Look, when the ninth inning came, I
was happy with whatever was going to happen, right. I
was calm because I said, you know what, the top
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of the order is coming up here. This is exactly
what this is exactly what we want. And when f
Lindor gets on, I'll feel really really good. Because Lindor
gets on, the Brewers are going to get really generating.
He's the guy, and Lindor big hit to start it off,
and all of a sudden, Jitry, jittery. Nimo with the
big hit and they go deep into every count and
Williams falls behind all the batters. That's when you can
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tell Nerves and other outside influencer getting into this situation.
Alonzo with the dinger and they tack on the the
extra run as well. Oh, by the way, Jesse Winker
have police protection when you get into the parking lot.
I think the entire city of Milwaukee's gonna be looking
for you. They're not gonna be I would say you
probably with you blank blanking the entire time.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
For you, man, we'd actually just you know, set up
a brawl in the parking lot, uh, sanctioned by somebody.
I man, I'm plenty of fight promoters would get on
board that one. Uh this subplot. But you know, back
to Alonso, back to the start of all of this.
You know, just a guy who, as you look at
his career and what he's done, because even this year
thirty four home runs, eighty eight rbi, it's not a
whole lot you can do with the you know, the
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eighty eight RBI if guys aren't getting on base, or
Lindor's cleaning things up, whatever the case is.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
That in the.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Two forty batting average was actually what twenty points higher
than it was a year ago. Uh, just didn't drive
in many runs and to your point, struggled down the
stretch to where everybody was ready to say goodbye. So
you get into this situation, you know, best on best right.
So that's where I would believe you with that piece
of calm, if you're gonna go down, it's the Homer
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Simpson going and getting beaten up by the carnies right
when they beat him and they take over his house,
and then Homer tricks them, gets back in the house
after they were squatting, and the guy voiced by the
late great Jim Varney goes, Son, we were beaten by
the best. It's like that guy was it. It's like
we were beaten by the best. So he went best
on best, and Pete Alonso comes through with a monster
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shot for you to advance. Now you have the big
battle against the affilies. I mean, how great is this
for baseball? Steve De Sager and I were talking before
the show, hanging out watching as that home run was launched.
He's kind of laughed and smiled, you know, Steve, the
big baseball fan that he is. It's like, all right,
everybody's happy. We got a couple of big markets getting
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after it. And the animosity continues, the fun story, a
couple of fun guys. Jackson Juria is gonna be a star.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, not the same juice. Now we get Mets phills.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Let's go oh man outside, Pete Alonzo right now running
over to all the fans, all the Mets fans that
made the trip doing interviews on the field.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I really four in the ninth to win.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean, I am more dead than I was on
Monday after the Lindor home run and they get in
against the Braves. Think about this, this is just this
is four nights, no except for the Mets. This is
four nights for the Mets. And again, this stuff doesn't
happen to me. This does not happen to me, man
I do. I got that moment on Monday, I said, Okay,
that's oh. I really enjoyed the hell out of that
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because I got about five years so I got umber
like that. Nope, four days later, I get another moment,
even better because we're moving on into playoffs, and it
was it's I can't believe it. I know two things
are gonna happen now because of this. I know what
Syracuse is gonna lose by fifty tomorrow Agan's NLV and
the Jets gonna lose by fifty on Sunday against the Vikings,
and Darnold's gonna throw for four touchdowns. I don't care.
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I don't care. I have this, I have tonight. I
have this. I have et Alonzo going yickity in the
ninth when it looked like the season was over. Well,
based on your normal schedule, you won't be awake to
watch the Jets, so you won't have to experience the
pain live. It'll just be the fantasy updates or my
mocking texts that you wake up to. Uh but oh no, no,
I'll get up to watch when the Jets played the
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early game on time. I don't of course again, then
I'll go back to sleep. I mean, then'll go back
to sleep. Yeah, you know that's how it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Okay, as long as we've got that straight.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
But I mean, we just look at the divisional round
as set up is. It's everything you can want, right
because we joked about it. The KC Yankee matchup, we
get all the George Brett and all the playoff battles
of years past. We get to bring all that footage
back in and go in a time capsule. We get
the Dodgers and the Padres where the smack talking and
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ticket sales and everything else. We've already got that going on.
Now we get this.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Come on, you have the Yankees, which you need. You
have the Tigers, which is the best.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Story in the baseball this year, right at big market team,
and you have four teams in the National League that
absolutely hate each other, that hate each other.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
So I didn't mean to dismiss the Guardians and Tigers,
but no, no, let's about what it is. They still
rank fourth as much as it is a battle of
you know, the White Sox seasons and trials on display.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And I'll tell you my phone is.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I always say, whenever something like this happens with the
it's like, it's like my birthday. Now, it's like my
birthday and Christmas and Father's Day, My birthday, Christmas and
Father's Day with I don't get like people are like,
oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Wait you guy notices on Father's Day. No, no, people wish
me happy father. How about that? Yeah you know, I'm
for you. Yeah yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But I actually I actually got one from a friend
of mine that I talked to all abut said to me,
oh my god, did you see that.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I want to say, come on, man, I should say, no,
what happened? I don't. I don't know what what happened.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
You know, I love sports. I'm an insurance adjuster. I
don't fantend anymore. So I'm out of the site right now.
It's a Friday night and there's a there's there's a
lot of mud you know, coming out of this uh
the back of this house. Here it all, it all
got shot up like it's been bad monkey with you
know what the.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well Vince, I mean when you get on ahan sorry
this house. Yeah, that's what I do now. Yes, I've
loved sports behind. Yeah, I don't do that anymore. I'm
gonna I'm in a new phase of my life. That's
that's not who I am anymore. I've moved on. I've
moved on in my life.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Instead, you're more insane than ever. Yes, and yeah you
get a match up with the Pills again. Hate division
rivalries and history everything we could want going into the
divisional series.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And house money, Man and house money. I read this
is some kind of week.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You'll still ride the lightning with it and we'll have
to talk you off the ledge if that comes to that.
But for the moment, come on, this is insane. A
ninth inning, three yearround home run by the Polar Bear.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And now and now it's like, oh okay, now, hey,
let's talk contract Steve Cohen.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Sure here you go one hundred million a year. Well,
it really comes down like forty million, now a hundred million,
a hundred million a year. Now he deserves that.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Maybe maybe he fires Boris like Montgomery did when things
don't go so well. It really just comes down to this,
U does does signing Je Soto preclude them from signing
po Back?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh, an unbelievable night. Again, how can you not be
romantic about baseball?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You're still on the hook for dinner tonight even if
he didn't you know, walk in.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I mean not in Milwaukee, but you know, I mean
outside of how could you not be romantic about baseball?
We'll continue to have reaction from this game. You hear
from Francisco and door. Pat Murphy is hitting the podium
right now and looking exactly how you'd expect the Brewers
manager to look after falling in three games here in
the first round of the playoffs. And oh, by the way,
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keeping alive the streak. The team that's won the first
game every best of three playoffs has won every single series.
Still I told you last night, Oh that's gonna come
to Metsic, gonna screw that up tomorrow, that's coming to
an end. Nope, that streak is still alive. After the
win tonight, the champagne is pouring in the Mets clubhouse
right now. There they're all wearing I think they're all
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wearing custom made goggles by New Era, Like, I bet
you can buy these on the New Era site now,
Like they're all like the big champagne goggles and you
see the New Era logo on the side, like where
they are on baseball hats. So I think you probably,
I bet you could buy these. Hey Man, celebrate like
a pro with these New Era show. Oh, give me
a pair of those shades. I'm gonna start pouring someone
my face.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I'm looking at I'm looking at Poshmark right now. New
Era goggles. They're out of stock, which means it doesn't
show me the price. Oh it's two hundred bucks. Oh,
which means the Mets bought all of them. This was
someone someone sold them, was here in Los Angeles. New
Era goggles twenty nineteen MLB Playoffs, Dodgers locker room game
used Oh bucks, I mean, come.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
On, So there it is.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Mets beat the Brewers in one of the greatest games
of the season. They've played two of them in the
span of the last four days. We'll have more on
this coming up and we'll get into Thursday Night football,
where if you like points, if you like offense, you
really love what's going on right now.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Bucks lead the Falcons twenty four to twenty.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Midway through the third quarter, Baker Mayfield has thrown for
three touchdowns. Kirk Cousins is already over three hundred yards,
saving his job for another couple of weeks. We'll have
more on this coming up next. Right here, we are
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One second to go in the fourth quarter, the Falcons
will be attempting a fifty two yard field goal. Young,
(19:15):
way cool, try to tie this game and send it
to overtime. Kirk Cousins completes a pass and gets the
ball spiked with one second left on the clock.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Little bit of hometown clock me a little bud.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It looked like they got the spike down with one
second left to go.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Young Wayku comes out for the field goal.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
The play clock ticks down to zero and you're thinking, oh,
that's a penalty.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
They're gonna move it back.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Turns out the play clock was started early, so they
figured that controversy out. Raheem Morris I thought was gonna
have some kind of attack on the field when they
were gonna.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Move him back five yards.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
However, they realized, okay, we didn't start the play clock
at the right time. They were able to reset the
clock and Young waykup is good. From fifty two yards.
It is thirty to thirty. We are going to overtime
in Atlanta. A great drive by the Falcons with no timeouts.
Kirk Cousins now up over four hundred and forty yards
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passing on the night. He is thirty nine out of
fifty five, and now we have overtime between the Bucks
and the Falcons.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Now they did get the delay of game, doesn't matter.
Young Way coup for the second straight week comes up big.
Remember he did have a miss earlier in the game,
and even after a penalty gave him an extra chance
at and he missed that one as well. So on
that there's a little bit of controversy brewing over a
play where there was a holding call on Barton second
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and thirteen at the Atlanta thirty one. On the prior possession,
Bucky Irving got ridden down like he was at the rodeo.
In other words, guy grabbed his face mask and bowled
him straight to the ground, square in the middle of
the field. No call, but the holding call gets enforced.
And as we know, holding calls will kill a lot
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of drives that you have the subsequent pont and now
this drama as we head to overtime. So the officials
making their way into the game once again.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
There we go, good Joe, good after we're getting ready
for overtime again. We're going to the we're going to
overtime now. And what Kirk Cousins has done. We spent
some time last hour talking about Baker Mayfield. Now let's
get into Kirk for a little bit here. Uh, he
is having an incredible night throwing the foot. Okay, London
and Mooney are having great nights. London's got one hundred
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and thirty yards receiving, Mooney's got one hundred and five
yards receiving.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Even Kyle Pitch is catching passing.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, remember when Kyle Pitch is gonna be the greatest
tight end of the history of the game.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
He was generational, he was transformative those he was everything.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, but today he's at least got seven catches.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
You know who's still done nothing. Hejon. He was supposed
to be the master of the universe.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
B John's got sixty yards rushing. He's caught three passes.
I mean, look, when you're throwing the ball fifty five times,
there's not paying time for run the football.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Hey, first or second overall pick fantasy foot But they
don't care about your fifty throwing times. They don't care
about that. He got ten points. That's what I'm expecting
out of my second flex spot. Man, you have overtime.
We have overtime coming up. Now you have chance for
more points here.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Which means he's gonna keep throwing it you more.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Hey, Kirk Cousins does not care about your fantasy team,
Mike Carbon, Well, he does.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Because he's actually the quarterback on one of my fantasy
he does not care.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
He loved me today.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Drake London also had left this game for a short
time in the second quarter as well, went on into
the old tent before coming back out. He's got ten catches.
Just an amazing game overall, and who knew that Baker
Mayfield had the wheels that he does.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
He's got forty two rushing yards. Man.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Now, as far as Cousins goes h he absolutely needed
this game.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Right. We talked about this going into the season.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Whatever the money Kirk Cousins is getting from the Falcons,
he is a bridge quarterback to get to Michael Pennick junior. Right,
it doesn't matter what he's getting paid. All of that
is irrelevant. In fact, any time I see a take
from someone says, well, he's gonna start all year, No,
you just don't even I don't know what you know
about football. If he starts out poorly, Michael Pennick shooter
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is going to get a chance.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
He's a first round pick that looked really good all
summer long. The desire to see him on the field
when he has won the team over with how he
played in the preseason. It's going to be immense, and
through four games, Kirk Cousins has been.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
He had a pretty good game against the Eagles right
on Monday Night, week two of the season. Right, it
was a national television So hey, okay, Kirk Cousins did
he did?
Speaker 5 (23:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
That was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He kind of saved his job for a couple of
weeks here, But then he had a bad week against
Kansas City and a worst week last week against the Saints,
only bailed out by the fact as team won, they
had no offensive touchdowns. He had a horrible game, but
they But Cousins has not been good this season. He
has had three awful games and one good one. This
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game tonight saves his job again for another couple of weeks,
Like his game against Philadelphia Monday night, week two after
they lost to the Steelers to start the season. That
saved his job for another two three weeks. Right, we
talked about at the tip, Hey Cousins saved his job?
Well you know what that was coming up empty again? Hey,
Kirk is not the same guy. He's not throwing he's
not throwing the football downfield. Enough, what is happening? Well,
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tonight he has now saved that job for the next
few weeks. Right now now, Kirk Cousins I think will
easily get into mid season. Before that, potentially you could
hear coming up again. Hey, is Kirk still a guy
we're gonna we're gonna go forward with or look, if
the Falcons start losing, they may want to see Penix
no matter what. But but right now, what Kirk Cousins
has done is he has extended his time as a
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starting quarterback probably through week eight, week nine ish of
the season, because he has been absolutely electric Tonight, is
in sync with all his big playmakers again, turning Kyle
Pitts into the tight end we thought he was going
to be like eight years ago, Like this is Kyle
Pitch is gonna be so good when he goes it, Boy,
Kyle Pitch is kind of a bus Nope, not tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Seven catches eighty eight yards.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Kirk Cousins absolutely needed this game more than anybody else,
and he's getting it right now.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I mean, you get a w here and obviously we're
watching this unfold. Nine minutes remaining in overtime. They're attending
to London after another reception. You're now at three and
two and you're tied with Tampa for the division lead.
With the tiebreaker, they'll meet again, and I think it's
three or four weeks right the end of October, they'll
be at Tampa Bay again. Stupid schedule makers, let's get
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this out of the way before the first half of.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
The season ends.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Dopes, But as well as most of your division game,
you gotta have it. There's gotta be some balance here anyway,
the point being that you've got to stretch here at
Carolina next. Then you've got Seattle at home, the aforementionined
game against the Buccaneers on the road Dallas and whatever
they are at that point to start November, and then
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on the road at New Orleans. So some winnable games,
a lot of division games, a lot of opportunity to
make Hay here and playing against some banged up defenses.
So the other thing is you're still rounding into shape
with the continuity and consistency with this squad, right, new
new team, new offense with Zach Robinson and really starting
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to find that timing.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And as we say this, Kirk Cousins has saved his job. Yeah,
we're going to overtime.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
It is over. It is over.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
In Atlanta. The Falcons win it thirty six point thirty.
Kirk Cousins throws it was probably about a thirty five
yard touchdown. I want to say to Cadaryl Hodge, who
had caught a couple of passes, I'll call it one
pass earlier in the game. He outruns everybody.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeh, forty five yard deal.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He catches a slant that looks like, Okay, this is
gonna put the Falcons in field goal range.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Right the Falcons get the.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Snap to start overtime, They get the ball to start overtime,
and they're moving down the field.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Okay. He throws a slant in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
To Hodge, who catches it and it looks like, oh,
this is gonna be a first down. They're gonna be
inside the thirty yard line. And he just runs away
from everybody in the middle of the field in for
the game winning touchdown and incredibly electric moment. Right now,
the Falcons win at thirty six thirty. Kirk Cousins forty
two for fifty eight, five hundred and nine.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yards and four touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Take that ped Alonzo you think you on the night
on Kirk Cousins, I have that room under the stairs
of my house that I gonna put footballs in five
hundred and nine yards passing.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You beat that, ped Alonzo.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Do we get to do a ceremony where that game
ball gets put in that little uh? I don't know
Cavin under the stairs that he's built out there.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I think you might have to.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Maybe it's delivered by Daniel Radcliffe as an ice, now
Harry Potter, or it.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Comes sliding through a mailbox.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But yeah, prime time Captain Kirk getting it done in
front of the home crowd. They celebrated Matt Ryan on
his legacy and career at halftime, gave a speech and
now you've got an absolute pandemonium. Just a cool scene
in the post game, everybody rocking along and Kirk leading
the way.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It is the fifteenth most passing yards in a game
in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I did this math really used.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It is the fifteenth most yards passing in a game.
You have fourteen players who have thrown from more than
five hundred and nine yards. Still the leader Norm van
Brocklin back in nineteen nineteen fifty one. Back in the
way they threw that. Yes, apparently they ran an offense
that was way ahead of its sign Nough Van Brocklin
for the Rams in a win, through for five hundred
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and fifty four yards on to twenty seven completions.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Right, how about that bait? That is still the record.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Matt shawb made a big run at it about about
ten or twelve years ago in a game against the Jaguars,
and we've had a few games since then. Joe Burrow
was up at five twenty five a couple of years ago.
He was really close.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
But this is the.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Fifteenth highest total in a game in NFL history, tying
him with Vince Ferragamo.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
How about that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Also through for five hundred and nine yards on December
twenty sixth, nineteen eighty two, in a game against Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Bears the Chicago Bears. There you go. It all comes
full circle, buddy, It.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
All comes back to me on the downside of things.
Is that what you're trying to say, sad Sack existence, Yeah,
that's what it was. Hodge not to be confused with
Hobbs and Shaw.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
No Hodge, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I mean Hodge was also I mean Hodges was on
criminal minds, so we could do that.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Oh you know, I actually saw him once Thomas Jimpson.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, no, no, no, al does Hodge that That's one of
my favorite celebrity sightings of all time was Alvis Hodge
because he was Voodoo on Voodoo Tatum on Friday Night Lights.
He was a quarterback that came in that was gonna
take over, like he came in from another It's like
it was a great storyline where he had to change
schools and he was really highly recruited and they grab
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him like as a mercenary quarterback. He's gonna play this
season and he doesn't get along with the coach and
he runs his own plays and everything else. And he
was so good in this role, like he wouldn't do
what Kyle Chandler want him to do, and like he
he calls an audible that winds up running running for
a touchdown and Kyle Chandler yells at him.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And goes, will run the plays I call and.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And he just looks at him really calmly and goes scoreboard, coach, scoreboard.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
He was so good, right, So he's.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So good in that, you know he's had a great career.
Alde Hodge after that, and I saw him on Venice
Beach like not too long after this, and I walked
by it, and I wanted to go, I.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Got Voodoo Fever because that was a big line for him.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
The nick name was Voodoo and the Cararacs will say
I got Voodoo Fever because he was so good. I
was gonna do that, and I'm like, I I can't
do that. I'm forty years old. I can't I count
forty and he's twenty five.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I can't walk by it and go I got Voodoo
do it. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
No, come on, man, you're parn Hollywood. They we're on
air every night. It's it's, you know, theater in the
mind that we bring here. I mean, come on, I
just took us down the deep dark path of criminal
minds and hodging her and everything else. We got craziness,
but Hodge with I mean, like you said, turn down
the turbo jets there And there's already like fifteen memes
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of Captain Kirk from Tonight making the rounds on the interwebs.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I mean, what an incredible moment. He just runs away
from everybody five oh nine. Who man, I'll tell you
so you got Hodge got cousins, He got a lots
and a lot of heroes tonight in Mike.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Car But he do have lots of heroes. You know,
how else we got what else? Steve de Seger. Oh,
he's gonna tell us what's trending.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And I guarantee you he's very mad at me because
I guarantee you he had some kind of stat abouttle
five hundred yard passers in NFL history. No, no, what
about the great researcher Sarah langs Well I ever said
about it.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
This is the most by any passer in the NFL
this season. We know that, and they did say for
Kirk Cousins, this is his career high of five hundred
nine yards passing and that game winner in overtime forty
five yard touchdown pass to Cadaryl Hodge, Hodge with the
last forty yards on his own after he spun away
from the defender and raced to the end zone. Atlanta
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beats Tampa Bay in overtime thirty six to thirty. Kirk
Cousins four touchdown passes, one interception, Drake London twelve catches,
one hundred and fifty four yards and a score. And
for those who did not play Darnell Mooney in fantasy,
in the gate for Atlanta today. He was targeted sixteen
times and had nine receptions for one hundred five yards
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and two tds in this win. A combined forty nine
first downs in this game, nearly nine hundred yards combined
in this game. The Falcons are three and two. The
Bucks fall to three and two. Baker mayfield three touchdown
passes in the first half, two to Mike Evans, and
let's not forget why we had overtime. The Falcons tied
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it after spiking the ball with one second left and
getting the field goal team out there, tying it on
a fifty two yard field goal on the final play
of regulation. The Chiefs places wide receiver Rashid Rice on
injury reserve. He'll have further testing on his knee by
next week after the swelling goes down. Kansas City running
back Isaiah Pacheco is already on IR as his wide receiver.
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Hollywood Brown Chiefs running back Kareem Hunt was limited in
practice today with a bad shoulder. Texans running back Joe
Mixon did not practice due to his bad ankle. Colt's
running back Jonathan Taylor missed practice with an ankle injury.
Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson was limited today with the oblique injury.
Running back of the Giants, Devin Single Terry did not
practice groin injury. Giants wide receiver Molik Neighbors did not
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practice due to his concussion, and for Washington, running back
Brian Robinson missed practice with a bad knee. Washington running
back Austin Eckler did practice fully after his concussion. To
Major League Baseball, the Mets are still alive. They scored
four runs in the top of the ninth at Milwaukee
to eliminate the Brewers, ending the Wildcard round with a
four to two win. Pete Alonzo a three run homer
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in the top of the ninth. Jose Quintada the Mets
six scoreless innings as a starter no decision is ninety
four pitches helped set the way the win, eventually to
closer Edwin Diaz, who pitched in the seventh and eighth innings.
The Phillies host their Division Series Game one this Saturday
against the Mets on Fox TV four pm Eastern Time.
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The Reds are hiring Terry Francona as manager, who stepped
down in Cleveland a year ago. Caitlin Clark is the
WNBA Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Back to you.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Thank you, steveo all had all this stuff planned. We'll
talk about kateln and Clark winning Rookie of the Year.
You know, Sam Darnold saying some amazing great about the
Jets today. Antonio Pierce is never going to be allowed
to coach in college again. And then the Mets and
the Falcons happen, and look like, I look what happens?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
He here you go.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Some of the tweets that are starting to flow to
are great because some of them are roasting Kirk's former
team in the process.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon coming up next,
we'll have more on the biggest, most emotional stories of
the night.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Right here. It is an unbelievable Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Keeping here Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio's.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
On the win man. How's it feel?
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Hey, hey, right right? Can you hear us?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
How you doing it? Are you coming down from that
win yet? Are you still going crazy?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
There?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I saw you?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Hey, tell me what's going through your mind? The final
player regulation you're trying to get down there? To spike
the football. Know, you were in the middle of everything
trying to get lined up. What happens in that situation.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Shoot, make a play, man, that's on the whole drive.
I want to I wanted to make a play and
know whether it's me or my teammates just blogging form. Uh,
I know whoever touch the ball was gonna make a play. Uh.
And you know, and just trusting each other. And then
I know Kirk the poise he has, he's gonna lead
the offense down where we need to be at and
we just got to finish.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
The report coming out that Zach Robinson changed the play
call to go to the middle of the field as well, Uh,
thinking that Kirk would get up there to spike it.
Really trusted his legs to get him up to the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah. Uh, and that's that's we pattered that all the time. Man,
them last we know these type of games don't end
like that, you know, especially being saying the Vision game,
you're gonna you know, it's gonna be a crunch time game. Uh,
let it know overtime and then letting Red do a
thing in the game like that cooll walk off.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Hey is Hodge the fastest guy in the team, because
I can't believe how we ran away from everybody.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Let's playing overtime.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
It was insane and we can argue that how he
was moving.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
How much guys, you guys get ready to leave the field.
How much do you stand and watch the crowd? I
mean the sway surfing and everything that we're doing. That
was pretty crazy atmosphere there right.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Rack, Yeah, and atmosphere was crazy, man. One of the
best Iff been around from just the whole game, halftime,
just being bringing our energy up, you know. And it's
big to have a fan base like that.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Are you guys ever going to have like a boring
game where you win like twenty four to seven. Every
game comes down to the end and overtime the final play,
Like you guys are riding the roller coaster this year.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Yeah, you know it's the man. They played ball on
the side. I think our first two games and stuff,
all the great teams did I mean to be honest,
every NFL team is an any any game a Sunday
could beat you and you got going to play excute
and uh, bugs did a thing. You know. We came
out on top, you know, but we gotta see them,
see them again and uh act even better.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, just another couple of weeks, you guys will see
them again. But massive offensive numbers. What's it like to
be part of this high client offense week to week
as the game plan gets installed, you know, licking your
chops for your opportunities.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
It's a blessing man, just having Kirk Kevin a vet
being being competing with uh Red Mooney Drake, Uh see
Chris Chris Blair cat Chase just every day, uh getting
better at practicing, done, being hungry, competing, making each other better. Uh,
it's been great, man, with the old lines, just watching them,
the dogs in the front, the running backs win the ball.
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It's just it's fun.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Man.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Everything's just been clicking. It's about not killing ourselves on
the first downs. And I feel like sometimes we were
shout ourselves on the foot when we get some get
some movements and momentum, and we just gotta cut those
few things that I think and execute on third down,
which we I think we did pretty well. Account to
look at the fats and stuff for that, but I think.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
We won the game.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
So either way or that we want the game there
you go.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
But yeah, do you want me to look, I got
six third Yeah, you got six out of four. We'll
give you stats if you need. Tell me any starts
two three from fourth down though so just six catches
for sixty six yards and incredible win. Falcons win at
thirty six thirty over the Bucks in overtime. Ray Ray
mcclod thanks a bunch of stopping by, best luck, rets
(39:27):
of the way. We'll talk to you down the road,
all right, Ray Ray McCloud.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
He wants stacks man.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I mean they were six and fourteen third down efficiency,
but two of three on fourth down, and when it mattered,
they made the play to help send things to overtime.
And like you said, with Hodge Man turbo jets, because
he turned it on and was gone.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Is he the fact? We can argue that is he
the We can argue that if you want to argue
we can. All right, we got to line up a race.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Captain Kirk could fire off the starting pistol.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Uh. That's that is good stuff there from Ray Ray mcleody.
Look catches, everybody caught passing, everybody, everybody is there. But look,
but you know, back the point we had before, we
you know we we got we got Ray McLoud and
thanks to him for stopping by.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Is that you know, watching this is certain things.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
It just feels like when something is being done right
and when something's being done wrong, and it kind of
felt wrong. It kind of feels wrong that each team
is not guaranteed the football. And the old you know,
in overtime, and the old adage and the old argument
was always well the other team that you could score
on defense, You can score defensively.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
You can do that like that.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
It's like, okay, how often does a team don't don't
tell me that, man, how often does a team score
on defen How often do you get a fumble return
for a touchdown or a pick six?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
It doesn't happen that often.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yes, stopping the other team, I get it right, You
stop any other team and getting the ball, that's a thing.
But there you can't tell me that the team that
has the ball has a huge advantage to win a game.
It's like in Major League base when you see that,
but tendon's a chance to win the game. You win
the toss in overtime, you're about like seventy five percent, right, Like,
so having the ball is a huge advantage.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
So you can't tell me, oh, you could stop, you
could score on Devinen.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
That doesn't happen that often, right, You get you get
maybe a couple of those plays every week in the NFL.
So I think when it comes to overtime eventually, they're
gonna probably get there to this because it's it's the
fairest thing, especially coming off a game like tonight where
both offenses.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Were rolling right, like you know Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
You know, they had a huge night, you know, running
the football, they ran for one hundred and sixty yards,
they threw fo one hundred and seventy yards. You know,
I see a game like tonight and I go, it
can't the NFL just say, listen, we're gonna make it fair.
Everybody gets the ball once in overtime, right, everybody gets
the ball once. It's how it goes, and and and
whatever happens. We play the game that way, but each
team will get the ball once in overtime, just to
make it fairest, because it's it's still it's still not
(41:41):
fair this way the way they do it. And I
feel like the NFL is just kind of pieced meal
it out. Going all right, We're gonna just do overtime.
But first score wins. Okay, the field goal is not fair.
Oh now it's gonna be. But if it's a touchdown,
it's fair. But then in the playoffs it's different and
each team gets the ball. It's like, just have uniform
rules in overtime. Yeah, team gets the ball one.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
I mean the argument and this is where we always
get into those difficult arguments when we come to the NFL,
and the words quote player safety unquote are strung together
because that's been part of the argument of why you
do it this way?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Right, you score the touchdown, it's over, there's no more series.
You don't run out the clock.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Because the other thing is I'd just say you play
some you know, decided amount of time, and however it ends,
it ends.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
But you know, maybe I'm a sadist.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
People would tell me that if I wanted to just say,
all right, we're playing a full ten minutes regardless. But yeah,
I see your point. You know, the defense, you know,
has to make a play. And I tried to find
the stats. It was not easily accessible. So that's something
we'll get our crack staff working on. In terms of,
(42:48):
you know, if you get the ball first, what's the
end game and the percentage of times that you actually
win the game, not only overall, but off that first possession.
But yeah, it does feel like a night like tonight
where the offenses are flowing as they did.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
That we got a bit cheated. No, I get that.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, I mean it's we should have asked Ray Ray
while we had them on lind Hey, do you think
they should have.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Gotten the ball?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
No?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
I love overtime. I'm just doing I'm going on far
the best. I was gonna ask him, can I have
your helmet? Those helmets were cool?
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, No, it's too bad. I mean I could tell
he had trouble hearing us, so we couldn't go as long.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Yeah, you know, there were a couple of a couple
of times where it seemed to get lost a little bit.
But no, good energy, good and good. I mean we've
had great success with guys this year. It's been great.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, but look, I mean that it's a night, you know,
it's a night for offense, and you see, Yes, it
doesn't seem fair. But I would say this even if
it was a game that ended, you know, twenty to
twenty to fourteen, You know, if that was the case,
because it's still it's just a.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Huge advantage for winning the coin flip. Right.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I still don't think that people understand you know, football,
and the NFL understands, Oh, okay, this is this is
how we're going to decide it. No, that's a big
deal to give one team the football and the other
team is not guaranteed to get it. It's you know,
I shrugged my shoulders and go okay. Whenever the NFL
does rule changes, they always do the same thing. They
always say, well, if we're gonna change this rule, we're
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not just gonna change it. We're gonna kind of dip
our toe in the water of it and see if
the see what the temperatures like, the temperature is okay,
then I'll put my foot in, and the temperatures still
a little better, I'll go in up to my knees,
like like when you watch your mom go swimming in
the public pool, and like she's just standing there with
the other moms like just up to their knees talking
like why don't you guys swim? No, we're just standing
in the shallow and talking probably about us.
Speaker 6 (44:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
But if it's too cold, oh, I'm getting out of
the water. Like that's how the NFL has done. This's like,
look at what they've done with the kickoff. The lad Okay,
we're gonna have the kickoff. We're gonna do this. You're
gonna kick off here. Now, you're gonna kick off from here.
Now we're gonna have people line up. And it looks
like the XFL, like the NFL is you know, they
still haven't found a way, like we can't make a
real strong change, and so the kickoff kind of is
what it is. And I feel like over time in
(44:54):
the same way, well, it kind of it is what
it is.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Is it fair? No, it's not fair, but it's what
we have right now.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
But games like tonight where you know it's spending and
this is this is where this might push for change
more than anything. Because if it was a twenty to
fourteen game, well, okay, neither team's offense has played well,
this team drove down the field when they couldn't really
do it all night.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Hey, they deserve to win.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But a game like tonight where the offense is going
up and down the field of scoring, yeah, this is
one that pushes for that change because hey, it doesn't
feel right that Mayfield and the Bucks didn't get the football.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Yeah, I got a up in front of me. It's
a paper and honors thesis by a guy named Will Thurlow.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Now this is dated.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
It goes back to December of twenty twenty one. But hey,
for giggles and because you know we're nerds, it's an
honors thesis at Ball State University. It's thirty two pages
of math. But the summary is that there were one
hundred and fifty eight overtimes assessed sixty one percent. The
coin flip winner won the game. Now, I'd have to
(45:56):
find the data points for the last couple of years
to extrapolate from their jason, but one hundred and fifty
eight was a pretty good sample size, certainly off the jump.
And it's Paul State, So we get shot up Ball
State in mathematics in football finding their intersection there I'll
have to go through because at least as I sit
here and try to read it quickly, I mean, it's
fuzzy math. There's a lot of equations in here. I'll
(46:19):
have to dust off my calculus brain another time. But yeah, no,
I hear your point, and certainly in the Tampa guys,
are going forget about the overtime rules.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Where's my blankety blanket call on the face mask that
was obvious? Has the nose on your face? How about that? Sure?
Fix that first NFL char listen. I'm sorry, I thought
I was being brought in talking about NFL overtime rules.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
No, Mike Harbon has decided to hijack the conversation talk
about a face mask call that he's really upset about.
And why Bejeon Robinson doesn't get the football. He's gonna
ask about those things first and then we'll get to
the overtime rules.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Oh okay, oh great, right, Bijon is just oh, he's
just a guy right now.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
But and Captain Kirk is king spread it out, and
I mean they were running up five wide most of
the night. Hell, they were lining up five wide when
Drake London was in the tent. He eventually came back
and ran amuck once again. He was shaking up down
towards the end of the game. So we will keep
an eye on that as we get into the extended
(47:23):
period after this week five opener. But man, what a
night of sports. Our colleague Doug Gottlieb goes over on
Twitter he goes, Dude, if this didn't do it for you,
then maybe sports is in your thing.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Maybe I'm just gonna go to the movies instead. That's
what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Exit out about a Fresca, exit swollen down the Jason
Smithson with Mike Carmon live from the TIREC dot Com Studios.
Coming up next, the drama and what we saw tonight
in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
And what it had to do with Pete Rose. Wait
what Yeah, a.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Little bit of a different topic coming up next when
it comes to what we saw a snap between the
Mets and the Brewers.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
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