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Jason Smith & Mike Harmon talk about the Patriots and wonder if there is a mutiny happening in their team locker room.

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Five second Dance Party. It's Friday, bringing one.

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To Alonzo William six.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Here's the pitch swing on a fly ball to right
field pretty well hits Fraelick back at the Lowley Jumps,
hets Don hay hayda peyt Alonzo with the most preparable
home run of his career. And how is your day?
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I lied on the show last night, and I want

(01:13):
to come shop. I want to come clean. I want
to come clean because I lied to the show last night.
I said I would spend the next twenty four hours
equally watching the Pete Alonzo home run and the Francisco
Lindoras celebration with the team that was on MLB Network. No,
all I did was watch the Alonzo home run thousands
of different ways with the moneyball music Howie Rose is

(01:34):
called I must to watch it another fifty times today
and I'm in I'm sitting in my wife and I
are driving, We're going to lunch, and I'm finding the
best moneyball call of the Alonzo home run, and I'm
watching it and I'm tearing. My wife goes, are you crying?
I go, yes, a little bit, because this is so
unbelievably amazing, especially note now I know how it ends,

(01:54):
and it was that. I mean, whoever put out the
one that I that I quote tweeted on my account
earlier like responsible for all the views because that was
the best moneyball home run one that he did. I mean,
that's all today has been just going back going. Oh,
I got five minutes. I could watch the Alonzo home
run five more times. I can watch the whole thing
beginning to end five more times. Oh, I got five minutes.
I can do that. Now.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
That was my day to day. I dig that, man.
That's that's that's good of you. You know you spent
your day in a positive frame. I went into a
very dusty, dusty theater to watch.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
The Wild Robot. Why was it so dusty because it'll
get you, Okay, okay, deep deep deep thoughts with Jack Handy. No,
but not like that.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I was gonna ask you if you lost to bet
to Tyshert since you got the Alonso call right off
to jump like that was really where I was going.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well, I mean it was. It's a really big deal.
I mean it's it's still twenty four hours later. It's
still a really big deal.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
So I really thought you would again or on board
the fact that it's a college football Friday night, big
week in the head and your team is on and
our guy Petros Papa Dakus is on the.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
And just like Kaiser, so when he says poof, he
disappears poof. That's Syracuse fourteen nothing. Lead is about to disappear.
Just about poof, it's about to disappear.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, quarter eight start, Yeah, absolutely, thirteen points and yeah,
moving the ball at will. No, it's good man, but
it's exciting times. We're getting ready for playoff baseball?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Are you kidding me? And now that's what UNLV is doing,
moving the ball it will. They just had a bad
snap that almost went over the quarterbacks. Had he had
to tip it up to himself, and he just ran
it in for a touchdown like that. That's that's what's
happening right now. That's where that's where I'm as good
as the first quarter was, here's the second quarter, and
we look like we can't even keep up with UNLV.
UNLV looks like Georgia the last six minutes of this game,

(03:45):
just flying around the field too fast for everybody. I mean, really,
this is a snap that was an awful snap that
went over the quarterbacks. Had he tipped it up to
himself and no, I'm gonna run it in for a
touchdown broke.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Kaja Malik Williams corrals it, surveys, sweeps right and gets
to the edge. But yeah, this game has suddenly gotten
a lot fast. Yeah, they gotta like watching the second
half of the Falcons last night.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Totally different game. UNLV is not missed SLUCA so far
in this one. That is absolutely for sure miss Luca.
Two big games right now. College football, Oregon on top
of Michigan State. Yeah, we're gonna get all these crazy
but it's like, oh yeah, it's here now, that whole
big ten PAC twelve. Yeah, well this is the week
this is the weekend we get all the crazy ones.
Oregon leads Michigan State seven nothing. Meanwhile Syracuse and UNLV

(04:32):
fourteen fourteen midway through the second hope you had the
over now before we get to show heyo Tani, just
really quick because look the big story today that look
the aftermath of the Alonzo home run going into the
second round of the playoffs tomorrow night, and there was
a big push today. I saw it all over with
social media. John Boy, who's a big baseball blogger and

(04:55):
poster and social media influencer, puts out that he thought
that Devin Williams of the Brewers was tipping pitches and
Alonzo knew that the change up was coming and he
was able to sit on it and hit a home run,
and I gotta say, I'm glad that this is not
gone anywhere, because I gotta be honest watching this. I

(05:16):
watched all seven minutes of this breakdown. That he holds
the glove a little bit closer, just a tiny bit
closer to his body, and the glove is a little bit,
a tiny bit flatter when he holds when he throws
his fastball versus his change up. You know what, Yeah,
it sounds great and it looks great. It was presented
great because here's this zoomed in feature from the center

(05:37):
field camera, and yeah, does it look like for two
or three inches his glove is moved a little bit. Yeah,
maybe not even three maybe two inches, And it looks great.
But in theory, okay, I don't think from sixty feet
six inches away you're able to tell when a guy's
got a glove and he's moved a little bit of
it two inches, he's moved a portion of the glove.

(05:58):
I don't think you can see that. I really don't.
I think, honestly, as lights out as Devin Williams is right,
because he looks honestly, he's almost like the next Rivera, right,
because Mario and Rivera got by for most of his
career on two pitches. In the end, he got by
on one pitch right, that cut fastball. But he has
two pitches. He has a fastball, he has a change up.
The entire inning, each Mets batter was sitting on a

(06:19):
different pitch. Right, Nimo was sitting on the change up,
and Alonzo was sitting on the change up. So you
know he's throwing one of two pitches. And he was
a little nervous, you could tell. I told you as
soon as Francisco Lindor got on base, everything change. That's
why I said, going into the last inning and the
ninth inning, I'm excited because we got the top of
the order up, and if Lindor gets on, things are
gonna flip, because the moment's gonna get really big for

(06:40):
the Brewers, and it did. So he's a two pitch pitcher.
I don't think you can see from the batter, oh
here these two ins. You definitely can't see from the
dugout how he's holding it. So I don't see how suddenly,
oh he's tipping pitches. And if he was tipping pitches,
he'd have been doing it the whole season because there's no,
and he you're getting everybody out, so there's no. There's no. Hey,

(07:02):
all of a sudden, I'm tipping pitches.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
He just pitched the other night. He was great. He's
he's been awesome the entire back half of the season.
He gave up one home run. He just got beat, right,
there were other swings and misses on the on the
change up in the ninth inning, he just got beat.
He had to. Yeah, he came in a little bit
too fat, and Alonzo hit it because he's a big
home run hitter. And that's what happened, right, Brandon Nemo
was able to get a fat part of the bat

(07:24):
on after fouling off too. He was looking for a
change up. Lindor is able to walk because he was
afraid of Lindor and didn't want to put him on base,
and he got too cute with him. This is why
the Mets won, Right, this whole tipping pitches, it's gotta
be a little more obvious than that. Again, when you
see it from the far centerfield camera zoomed in, it's like, oh,
look at that, that's two inches. Now, you're a batter
from sixty feet six inches away. Are you really gonna

(07:46):
see that the glove is is moving just the tiny Yeah,
the way it's presented, it looks like, oh, maybe tipping.
But there's no way. There's absolutely no way. He got beat.
I told you why. It's a home run. The Brewers lost.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, in the end, the results, the results, they can
go back and it's the brute film it as I'm
I was reading a New York Post article earlier. I
just pulled it back up and they go frame for frame,
and they also have a little shot in the dugout
where you've got Pete Alonso talking to Mets hitting coach
Jeremy Barnes. And now we're trying to read lips doing

(08:18):
the old all right, what did he say?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
What did he say?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Kind of like the Rogers, I don't want your damn
hug to Robert Solo?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
What did he say? What did he say?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
And their explanation is quote, that's the change up, and
Alonzo says, I gotcha, And then they start going frame
by frame, here's the overlap of the gloves.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
It's really well done.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
I mean it's really good. It's a really good detective work.
I mean this is like Batman style stuff. I mean
the world's greatest detective that fast to come through and
really put in the work on the overnight to put
this together. But in the end, maybe maybe Alonso was
smarter than the average bear, and maybe dude just miss

(09:00):
with the pitch. He threw seventeen seventeen of each right
from his two grips, seventeen change up seventeen fastballs in
the inning. Control was a bit erratic, and Alonzo waited
and drove a pitch that was up in the zone.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Look, it's it's fun, right, I'm not saying it's not fun.
It's fun to see. It's fun. Oh, tipping pitches. Maybe
that's why. Yeah, Alonzo was waiting, and I knew on
three and one that that bat, that length, body language
in the box of him with that little bit of
a wagon. I'm like, he knows what's coming now, he
knows when it's coming. Wow, So he tipped the pitch. Yeah,
so no, no, no, you bad pitch. Knowing what's coming

(09:41):
and tipping the pitch are two different things. Like No,
I like when I see them talking, when they were
talking about what it is when he gets into this situation,
that's the change up. Like that's when he throws the
change up because look at all the at bats, nimo
Is is sitting on the change up, the entire at bat, right,
Lindor is sitting on the change up. So in certain situations, again,
two pitches, you're gonna be right half the time, you're

(10:03):
gonna be right half the time. And so if you're
sitting on the change up, you know that's okay. So
when he gets into there, that's the change up. Okay,
I got it right, So okay on understanding going in.
I don't think they're saying, oh yeah, look because we
could tell from this angle that he's moving the ball.
Because all of a sudden, nobody's coming back to the
bad Vento's is coming back to dugut going I don't
know what I saw, man, I just waved at three
pitches right. So it's not like Mark Ventos knew what

(10:25):
was coming because he looked terrible. No, my favorite of
it door on base, and you had Nimmo on bass.
So neither of those guys call time out to come
back to say, hey, Pete, here's what I'm seeing on
the change up. I mean it sounds great, but I look,
you just got beat. He threw a pitch and Alonzo
hit it out. That's what it was. My favorite is
the overlay of the glove.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
As you can see, it's this much flatter when he
delivers this pitch first the other I'm like, you can
really notice that. I mean, we can going back in
time and creating a narrative. But to your point, I
don't know in real time. I mean unless we got
someone up in the booth going.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
He hey I've noticed, which hey, maybe we do.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
And there was a trash can getting banged somewhere in
the stadium exit.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
How about a Fresca exit swollen dome The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Meanwhile, the other
big story coming out of the playoffs today was show
Hey Otani, who was asked in advance of the opening
game against the Padres tomorrow, hey, are you gonna be
nervous at all for your first postseason now? Otani of
course uses an interpreter. I mean we kind of know

(11:29):
this uses an interpreter, and the interpreter guy, yeah, guy,
new guy, but we know he uses one did not
need to interpret it before. Otani just answered, no, not
gonna be nervous. There are stars in their first playoff
that I would be nervous about. Here's a young guy
coming in for the first time. Is he going to

(11:49):
be able to perform? Is the moment gonna be too
big for him? Is the guy? Or is he gonna
be great? Is he gonna be wan soda? There? He
is the last guy I would ever be nervous about
in the playoffs. The only way he doesn't absolutely wreck
this series against the Padres is if the Padres put
him on base all the time, right, And because that's
the big key for the Dodgers, is a Tani coming

(12:10):
up with runners on base in the playoffs, like at
the bottom of the order doesn't come through, and Otani
keeps coming up three of his four at bats with
nobody on base, that's the win. That's the win for
the Padres. Because as much as as I like I
believe in the bounce back for Rookie Betts and Freddie Freeman,
who they're expecting to have the rest of the lineup,
it's all gonna begin and end with Otani. And if
he doesn't bat with guys on base, that's gonna be

(12:32):
a thing, because then the Padres will be able to
put him on first base. Pitch around him. Maybe he steals, right,
we know, we know, we know we can steal bases now,
but he's not. That's the only way he is not
a dominant wrecking force in this is if they pitch
around him. But I look at that. I'm not worried
about nerves, nothing else. I'm worried about the guys at
the bottom of the order getting on for show. Hey,
o Tani, because that's gonna be the series. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
The sequence think is about as good as it gets, though, Like, hey,
you're gonna be nervous. There's no interpretation, no, just okay,
asked an answer. But you know, it's a guy that's
had I mean, how many major leagues played appearances at
this point. I mean he's not new to anything. Pressure
has been there since day one. Yeah, it's a little

(13:13):
different now because you're actually playing for high stakes. The Dodgers,
we expect them to be at this point. It's against
the Padres. Add it all up, then, yeah, it should
be to a degree the weight to the world. But
I mean, go back to the beginning of the season.
Look at what he was able to just you know,
do the shaking off of the shoulder, right, brushing it
off like he was just walking out of from the

(13:35):
rubble with all the.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Epay stuff didn't affect anything.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
There goes out to have a fifty to fifty season
and that and that went away pretty fast. And you
would have thought, given the gravity of that, you know,
situation in major league baseball. I mean, it got taken
care of extraordinarily fast, but you know that there would
be lingering effects from that.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
There was nothing. When other player in the.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Lineup were heard, or the back end of the lineup
weren't hitting, what did it matter.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
It didn't.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
He went and started stealing more bases and was still
potent at the plate and hitting rocket shots left and right.
So yeah, I'm not I'm not sweating at all. I'm
all it's all about the pitching for me. I don't
worried about their lineup. They'll score runs. It's the other
side of things that you know is really interesting, the
way they set it up Yamamoto Flaherty, uh and then

(14:28):
well we'll see how it flows from there. So it's
it's that curiosity. But for Sho how Tani, Hell, this
is playtime now, right, It's all been building this and
he's had to wait six and a half years to
get to this point, playing just down the street in
a sorry organization. Oh yeah, he's relishing every.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Minute of this. I'm telling you that's that. That's gonna
be the series. If he bats with runners on base,
the Dodgers win. If he does not, the Padres will win.
It's all gonna come down to that.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
I'd like to see how much he wants to hit
like Vladimir. Oh, sure, things in the dirt off the place.
It's like, yeah, you want to make something happen. You're
really gonna have to stretch your pa.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
He can't even worry. You know, they don't even intentional
walk anymore. Like I can swing it a pitch, it's
way outside, like if they don't throw it close enough,
like that's a Telly leak at the end of bad news.
Bears to swing at the end. Now, just go right
down to first base. Now, yeah, that's a strategy at
which we had see. I was like, hey, let's see
what you can do. Show.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Hey, we are gonna not paint the edges. We're gonna
have you know, plus three or four inches. You really
want to start reaching out that far? I don't know
that you do. But yeah, that's that's the gamesmanship that'll
have to happen with his bets exit.

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(15:57):
the NFL for this weekend. One team suppose Lee is
close to a mutiny and another one it's not Cleveland.
Uh sure, I'm positive Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, maybe it's shifted under reported right, it's it's not Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm reporting it's not you. Do you have sources? No, or,
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(18:16):
even when Syracuse gives away a fourteen nothing lead and
now we're losing twenty one fourteen. Yeah, I was fast,
but it's but it's okay. You know why it's okay?
Ask me why it's okay? Why is it okay? Because
the Lonzo hit a home run last time. That's what
That's why it's okay.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
No, I like Kyle McCord. If you had the over
on his yard and you're gonna get that, there's no question.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I wish he had another el I bet you they
fight because he Kyle McCord is having an unbelievable year
of quarterback, regardless as to you know what what team
Power five conference. He is having an unreal year. I
wish he had one more year of eligibility, I really do.
But he got screwed because he played in five games
a couple of years ago, and and that that ruined
it for him. So I wonder if if Syracuse is

(18:57):
gonna find a way to try to petition the NCAA Hey,
wait a minute, wait a minute. We need the guy,
but his pro prospects are just going through the roof.
You got two guys, big pro prospects playing tonight and
Dylan Gabriel and Kyle McCord. Just watch col McCord play
for five minutes and tell me that he's not the
smartest guy on the field. He always knows where to
go with the ball, he's got a strong arm, he
always makes the right play, he's the best throwing quarterback

(19:20):
Syracuse has had in twenty five years. That's how that's
how good he is now. Syracuse normally goes with with
a lot of dual threat quarterbacks. That's how it's always run.
But as for throwing the football, he's the best since
Donovan McNabb. He's the best they've had in twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Well, four games he's played. Four games is the best
we've had again in a quarter century. You're absolutely killing
the nasy era.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
How dare you?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
But watching him tonight, he's really good at scrambling for
his life, uh and getting rid of the ball. So
I mean that's been pretty impressive. Yeah, no, no, no,
neveral sequences of wow, he's going to die.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
You went for your life really well. Thank you very much,
thank you. I feel feel good about that.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
You've got your very fleet of foot, your your fighter
flight response is very it hands.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Congratulations mister McCord. Uh. Meanwhile, how about what what do
you want to do first? Mike Carmen mutiny or do
you want at Garland Poe? What do you want?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I mean, both are really exciting things because we either
get into Captain quig and mutiny on the bounty or
the k mutiny, I should say, or we or we
do a little bit of well classic poetry and descense
into madness. Either way, I mean, we win.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
So let's go. Let's let's start with the mutiny first,
to madness. I thought, Okay, see, I thought, I think
it's because usually madness leads to mutiny like that, one
way or the other. So it would make more sense
to do the madness first and then the mutiny.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Well, but you you could feel like there's a mutiny happening,
and okay, then you descend into madness or you to them,
and then you decide to act on it.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, since you must have been one of those kids
in school that went to argue they're great with their teacher,
and the teacher just said, yeah, what do you want
ten more points on your test?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Here you go, just get out, Just get out. I
need coffee and a cigarette. Just may or may not
have done that once once or twice. I had a
teacher getting my degree that was a member of the
Emily Dickinson Society. I decided to have a unique perspective
on interpreting a particular poem, and she was as red

(21:27):
in the face as you could possibly get, and they
were very loud arguments in the middle of a class,
to where everybody just kind of chucks, like, she he's
gonna kill her with this, like he's wounded her to
her her soul with the way he's.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Argued's gonna kill this woman. Okay, all right, so let's
let's deal with Let's deal with the mutiny first, then shout.
Evan Lazar, who works for Patriots dot Com as a
senior reporter, had a podcast that he appeared in yesterday
that made all kinds of attention today in that the
Patriots locker room is approaching mutiny over the decision to

(22:07):
not start Drake May and can continue to start Jacoby Brissett.
He went on in detail to say, guys getting upset.
Ja Mario Douglas was upset. Jalen Polk was upset. They're
yelling at each other, like why are we out there
killing ourselves when we're taking hits where we have a
guy that should be out here taking hits with us

(22:28):
and if he's ready. He made the analogy of why
are we keeping a Ferrari in the garage? We know
we can get us the football. All of this stuff
has gone on, and wow, the Patriots are close to mutiny.
It's mutiny, mister Christian, it's mutiny. Since that happened, well,
Girod Mayo was asked about it today, he blew it
off and those comments were then scrubbed from the podcast.

(22:50):
So now, unless you've heard it already, you can't hear
the mutiny with a new England Patriots mutiny mutiny. Now,
let's just say this is it, absolute, total me mutiny. No,
are the Patriots pissed? Absolutely one. Who's the happiest guy
in the world right now? Because sometimes about happiness, right,
positivity on a frid And that's what we're gonna do here, right.
Do the Patriots have problems one hundred percent? Why is

(23:12):
Drake May not start him because Jacoby Brissett the defenses
are too good. They're gonna give him a couple more
weeks and when things lighten up defense wise, Drake may
will be in there. This is how the NFL works.
I get that the Patriots are used to one way
of doing things for the better part of twenty years,
but that era is gone. Now. The happiest guy in
the world, I'll tell you, happiest guy in the world
right now on Friday night. Bill Belichick, because he is

(23:33):
laughing at the payment's going Oh you miss me now,
don't you. You miss me in that empty cupboard I
left for you because I knew I was gonna get
fired and we weren't gonna win anymore. You miss me now,
don't you with all this mutiny stuff happened. Oh yeah,
you couldn't keep me. You thought the game had passed
me by. Yes, I lost to the Jets at the
end of the year. I understand that was unforgivable. But boy,
you miss me now. And he is just laughing right now,

(23:55):
probably talking to Pat McAfee and a bunch of other guys,
and hey, I could be the celebrity picker on college
game day if you want. Whatever you want, guys, I'll
hang out with you all the time. Suddenly, now I'm laughing.
Ah yah. Bill Belichick's having the time of his life
right now. He is the happiest guy in the world.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Can I just put one thing in perspective in terms
of the passing game for the New England Patriots, you know,
the here tofore non existent passing game. Kirk Cousins passed
for more yards last night than they have on the
year in four games, although the Chargers aren't much further
ahead with five hundred and forty four yards. But Captain
Kirk doing the rounds, you know, and doing all that.

(24:32):
But for the Patriots, yeah, it's been a disaster. Five
point one yards per pass play. Stevenson can't hold on
to the football and everything's going to hell. And I
understand the player's frustration of hey, we'll get out here
taking our lumps. It's a little different when you're sitting
duck as a quarterback, as much as you could say,
and like, as a receiver, are you really taking a
lot of hits? Let's persets hanging you out to dry

(24:55):
over the middle? Generally speaking, not so much running backs. Yeah,
you'll take your beating and you go from there. But
the quarterback position, and he's been under siege. You want
to go take your rookie that you're investing your future
in and saying, hey, he's gotta be out there battling
with us.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I get your frustration.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
But if you think that's suddenly gonna fix everything and
it's all gonna be great, I mean, what just because
he showed up to rookie camp the same day you did.
I mean, in the case of Polk that that's gonna
be the thing that's gonna Hey, we're all equals here.
He needs to suffer and get his ass kicked, like
I am. Come on, that's that's just bad business. That's
just bad business, like if you because when they put

(25:35):
him in in that disaster against the Jets, we watched
that was was that fair to Drake may No?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
That was not fair to Drake may No?

Speaker 3 (25:45):
And you watched him when he had that one little
run and guy's hanging on his leg and then he
got absolutely flattened and for a moment every Patriots fan yelled,
why the hell is he in there?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
And that was after a long, long, you know, relief
and exasperated sigh as he laid on the turf for
a second and got his wits back about him. So no,
I mean, I get it, frustrations there, and communication obviously
needs to be better, but I don't think they're doing
the wrong thing by any stretch. And someone's got to

(26:20):
be the adult in the room and tell everybody to
R E L A X. We're gonna suck. And that's
the way it goes.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
You want a great hot. I'll give you even a
great hot day.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
This.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
There is part of me, all right, there's part of
me that really thinks when Belichick knew it's not workable, Right, Look,
how much does a guy know about about football and
what it takes to win lose? Obviously he's been an
ultimate winner for the past twenty five years. When he
knew that A it wasn't workable and B he was

(26:52):
gonna be let go that he left this cupboard bear
specifically for whoever was coming after him. He tanked the
roster and and and this is maybe a year or
two thing that you know what, gonna leave the cupbo
dry and and good luck trying to make this team good.
Like I really there's part of the things I kind
of like part of where it's at, right because you

(27:12):
know how how bad it was at the end with
with Craft and Belichick and all this stuff. And you
see what he did when he first made his run,
Like I think he was, he was somewhat re energized
after Brady left and you know, drafted Mac Jones. I thought,
I can win with this guy, and this is gonna
be great. But then he watched Brady win the Super
Bowl and he watched his team to send into chaos.
He could tell they weren't getting any better. Look at

(27:34):
the guys they spent money on man John hus Smith
and and and and and and wide receivers aren't even
on the team anymore. And I'm I'm going for Henry
and Agalore, all these guys, And what do you do?
You're spending on all the dere just guys, Like part
of me thinks, once he knew, okay, we're only gonna
get so far, and that's it, I'm gonna tank this roster,
and good luck whoever comes in after me. There is

(27:55):
nobody out here that's gonna be a big time difference maker.
Good luck right, because I saw that he he lost
his like he was no longer Belichick, and the Patriots
weren't the Patriots. The play that really sells it for
me was the lateral against the Raiders, right when they ridiculous.
On the final play before it goes to overtime, Ramandre
Stevenson tries to throw the ball all the way back

(28:17):
across the field and it gets intercepted and the Raiders
pick it off and run it in for a touchdown.
Like instead of going overtime, that play happens. To me,
that was the end of the New England Patriots because
that was a play that would never have happened previously.
Nobody would have ever tried that, And if they did,
those guys would be on the bench for weeks. Ramondre
Stevenson would be on the bench for weeks if he

(28:38):
did that. You know, five years before that, when Brady
was the quarter are you kidding, what are you doing?
Go to overtime? What do you mean we're trying to
throw the football to me? That was the night. That
was the game where I knew Belichick's broken, Like Belichick
has broken because they're just moving on after this and
he is just trying to clock as many wins as
he can. But he knows he's not going to win
in New England. He knows the team is not going
to be any good and if he squeaks out a

(29:00):
playoff game or two, he'll be happy he did. But
he knew because now you look at the fact that
the Patriots just didn't go get anybody, and all the
questions that he answered about why didn't you spend money
on anybody in this offseason, Well, we have to save money.
This offseason. Then next year we're gonna spend money. Well
where is that money? Where is that money? Like, really,
if you said, if you said that to me, I

(29:22):
would say yeah. I could see him once he knew
it wasn't gonna work and he was gonna have to
leave or get fired. At some point he said, I'm
taking this roster down to the studs and whoever comes
after me, good luck. You don't want me here, you
to think the game's passed me by all it good
luck everybody, good luck and go.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
It is called the lunatic lateral from Stevenson to Jacoby Myers,
now a raider who tried to make the throw. So, yeah,
the lunatic lateral. I just watched it again and shake
my head. The thing about it, though, Jayson like as
much as the roster, and I like the argument. He
made himself look like a jackass with all the offensive

(29:58):
coordinator plays, right, he lost more luster there. Like it's
one thing to say, hey, I built a roster thinking,
you know, hey, I can cobble together a team of
B listers and get him over to show what a
great coach I am. But it was professional malfeasans with
what he was doing Jones right, Jones, it's his fault.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I bet you. He thought his resume was going to
out last or out do whatever else happened in the
last Cup. His resume all the way up to the
final Super Bowl was going to be all that mattered.
And it didn't matter what the last two or three
seasons were. And it mattered a great deal, right, It
mattered a lot to Arthur Blank, it mattered a lot
to anybody else. Has the game passed you by? Do

(30:42):
you still know what you're doing? Are you in this
or just a few more wins to pass? Don Juler?
What are you doing like? I don't think I think
he probably he thought, because Belichick's got a huge ego,
doesn't matter what happens here. People are gonna I'm gonna
explain what happened. We didn't have the money, we spent
money here, we did this, and I'm just everybody's gonna
go back and look at my Super Bowl rings. They
are going to say, yes, come in, Bill and save us.
And I think he thought that was gonna be the

(31:04):
thing that made the difference for him, and it didn't
because people chose, rightfully so to focus on the last
three years of what happened and the downfall of New
England instead of oh, well, here's what happened when you
had Brady, Well you didn't have Brady. Look who didn't win?
All right? Brady won without you? Right he went, He
went on somewhere and won that first year without you.
So hey, wait a minute, we need to see some
more of you the last three years. I guarantee you

(31:25):
he overthought that exit out about a Fresco exit swollen
do on The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon live from the tirerack dot Com studios. We
got more coming up in ninety seconds, but first special
delivery Steve to say or with what's trending in the
wide world of sports, including more on the Pee Alonzo
home run, which is still the lead story in all

(31:46):
real ways.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Really wow, in the life of Jason Smith. It is
still a lead story.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Actually, yay, I watched that fifty times today. Are you kidding?
I'm gonna watch it five more times during your update.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Well, I can't tell you. I literally cannot tell you
the amount of times I have watched the Gibson home run.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
So I say go for it.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I mean, he brings everything back to central right. You're
having a bad day, you go find that positivity.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
No, I am not kidding when I say I have
thought for years, if I ever went to a coma
and they couldn't get me awake, just have the hospital
play the Gibson home run with the Vin Scully call and.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
See if there's eye movement. I think I might do it, Steve.
Can you just hear from Steve started after Mike Davis
Walls get to the home run.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
And he doesn't get picked off first. By the way,
when you talked about Bill Belichick and the rules, and
one name came to mind, Jonas Gray, the undrafted rookie
running back a decade ago.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I had to look it up.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
He had that incredible National TV game with thirty seven
carries two hundred one yards, and then was late for
a meeting the next week and got a total of
three carries the next three weeks for Belichick in the
New England Patriots. Well, it is halftime in college football
on Fox TV. Six ranked Oregon leads twenty one nothing
over Michigan State, even though Dylan Gabriel with the late

(33:08):
first half touchdown, does have two interceptions thrown at number
twenty five UNLV the four and zero Rebels with three
touchdowns second quarter to take the lead on Syracuse at
the half twenty one seventeen and currently with two minutes
to go. Houston, with a one and four record, is
now up thirty to nineteen. At TCU Saturday's big noon
kickoff on Fox TV, We'll have UCLA at number seven

(33:31):
Penn State the late game on Fox Saturday Night, Texas
Tech at Arizona eleven pm Eastern Time. Houston Texans running
back Joe Mixon is out this weekend with an ankle injury.
Colt's running back Jonathan Taylor is out with a sprained ankle.
Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson was limited in practice again with
a hip injury. The Mets will start pitcher code I

(33:52):
Senga tomorrow at Philadelphia to open their best of five
division series with Game one on Fox TV at four
pm Eastern Time against the phil and Zach Wheeler. Senga
has missed over two months with a calf injury. Padres
pitcher Joe Musgrove is out for the year. He needs
Tommy John surgery, so he could miss all of next year. Also,
the top seeded Dodgers open a Division series Saturday night

(34:13):
against San Diego on FS one. The two American League
Division series each start tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Also back to you, thank you, Steve O. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon live from
the ti iraq dot com Studios Phone number eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
There is the madness. Bell Belichick completely laughing at mutiny
with the Patriots. Now we get to Edgar Allan Poe.
What does he have to do with what could be
a big trade coming any day of the NFL. That's
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon live from the tire rack dot com studios.
And we got Pete Futech coming up in about ten minutes.
All the big previews you need for a very weird
and odd and fun day in college football we have tomorrow. Plus, hey,
we've got some big stuff going on tonight. A couple

(35:22):
of big quarterbacks slinging it around. But uh, we did
the madness before. You wanted to start with the madness.
Now we have to get to or you want to
go to the mutiny. Now you have to get to
the madness. You want to mute. We did the mutiny
with the Patriots, and now we get to the madness.
Edgar Allan Poe trended on Twitter most of the day today,
and first of all, it drove me crazy because it

(35:44):
trended with his name spelled wrong. Of course, Edgar Allan
is a L L A N. However, Edgar Allen a
L L E N Poe was what was trending. And
when I first saw it, I'm like, what is this
is someone named Edgar Allan Poe? You know it's the
same guy. Okay, it's October or whatever. Nope, Edgar Allen
Poe the writer, not how you spell his name? Very upset.
Tell me, it really upset me that not only does

(36:06):
a trend, but people every trend, so many people are
talking about it and everybody spells his name wrong. But
haven't we talked about this forever?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
The amount of like if you keep saying something incorrectly
and using it inappropriately.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Eventually it's shown up in the dictionary.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Same thing here, all right, there's now alternate spellings to
a man's name.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Uh, why was Edgar Allan Poe al with two A's
Edgar Allan Poe trending? Because DeVante Adams just put a
picture of him on his Instagram page. That's it, just
a picture of Edgar Allan Poe. Now. For for a
long time, I thought, Okay, we're gonna find out that's
not Edgar Allan Poe. And it turns out to be
like Alexander Hamilton, like I don't know, But it turns
out it's Edgar Allan Poe. And and I love how

(36:52):
many people were so proud of themselves because right away, oh,
he's going to the Ravens. Edgar Allan Poe wrote the rape.
Look at that, I know, And everybody was so happy
to say, look at me playing internet detective. Yeah, anybody
who's gone to school knows that Edgar Allan Poel wrote
the Ravens. And I'm pretty sure every single person who
saw that, Oh, Devanta Adams posted a picture red Garralan

(37:15):
Poe and knows thinks it's a reference to the Ravens.
I mean, I'm just saying the raven is pretty much
his most famous poem, like I'll give you a little
bit of Telltale hard some other stuff. Yeah, but everybody
knows that. So you didn't really do a lot of work,
because it's something that you realize within the first three
seconds of seeing, Oh, Deavante Adams has a picture of
red Garland Poe. He must be going to the Ravens.
Look at the work I have done here. I've done

(37:36):
TV detective work. We don't know who the killer is
in the open, and then we play the smash, cut
to titles, and the next forty four minutes of television,
I figure out who did it. I am a great
internet detective. I figured out in three seconds. My work
here today is done because I figured out it's about
the Ravens and Edgar Allan Poe and Davonte Adams. Look
at me, how smart I am? Clearly it's not DeVante

(37:58):
Adams just blanking with did he want to put up
a picture of a buffalo wing? Maybe you know, put
up a picture of the cowardly lion? Uh?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Is he talking about going to the lions or is
he excited for Wicked and in the extension of the
Wizard of Oz World.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I know, man, he could have done a lot. He
could have put up a picture of two Rams, you know,
bucking heads with each other. Are they're the Rams? Okay,
that's great, good at anything, could have done anything. Put
a picture of a Jet playing good at this.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
I would have just gone with the you know, the
other thirty one teams and just kind of gone down
down that road one after another.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yes, he trying to say. I think what he's like.
If he was gonna be a raven like, that's something
that five minutes after he posted it, we would have
found out Devantage's traded like he was doing that as
a fun thing. Yeah, he's trying to stir stuff up.
He's trying to make stuff happen. Hey, maybe it'll happen
for me getting dealt to the Jets or the Saints.
But if not, if I put the Ravens out there,

(38:56):
oh that could be it. I'd love to go play
with Lamar Jackson. That might be a lot of fun. Okay.
So all it is is now is him just Hey,
I gotta get my name out there. Gotta get my
name out there and make sure people know teams that
I might want to go to. I want to make
sure people kind of know without knowing. Here's some teams
I'm interested in other than the Jets and the Saints,
because it just might not work out with either of them.

(39:17):
It's gonna work out for the Jets. Ton' worry about it,
but just in case, let me throw the Ravens out there,
and maybe some other teams if I need to.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Who knows well as we look at it's sports betting dime.
The current odds, the Jets are the slight favorite over
the Saints, the Saints of three to one, Commanders plus
five hundred along with the Steelers Raiders that he stays
at plus seven hundred Bills plus eight hundred Cowboys plus
one thousand Chiefs plus twelve hundred Ravens plus sixteen hundred.

(39:46):
So just putting it out in the universe it did work.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swallowing up, He's just
creating the market because he's got to create a markets
going on, exit up? How about a Fresco exit? Swolling down?
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
coming up next. What big time upsets can we expect
in college football over the rest of tonight and tomorrow.
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