Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith admits the Dodgers are peaking and making hamburger meat out of the Mets. The Cleveland Guardians hit two late BOMBS and walk it off in extra innings to beat the Yankees. And Jason shares the dream he had about Jerry Jones. Plus, Troy Aikman puts the Cowboys on blast!

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in a minute. NFL first, the Broncos with a sixteen

(01:04):
to three lead over the Saints and they are looking
for more. Big run puts them deep in Saints territory
sixteen to three early in the third quarter. And I
know that we talk about celebrating all to seventy two,
but boy, that Patriots game a couple weeks ago that
might be in the two seventy range. This game tonight

(01:24):
might be in the two seventy range.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
No matter what happens. The rest of the way, just
an absolute train wreck. Towards the end of the half,
you literally had the Saints call a timeout only to
then kneel on the ball to end the half. All right,
we're maybe gonna throw a hail there once you get
everybody in the game. All right, who hasn't gotten in yet, Okay,
we'll call time out.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Everybody get in.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You can tell your parents you played. Okay, great, come
to practice next week. It'll be awesome, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Prior possession, bo Nicks throws an awful pass to nobody
in particular, Honey Badger're back to basically make a fair catch,
drops it career leader and innercep to thirty five. We
would later find out Broncos keep the ball one completion
and they're able to tack on to their lead to
make it sixteen and now sixteen guys, it's awful quick

(02:11):
question for you.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, who's more mad tonight Jason Smith about his Mets
okay or Al Michael's having to call.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
This craft Michaels, Yeah, come on, No, he's very very
upfront about how bad this is. The Other thing is
they're celebrating Drew Brees, even with his bad shoulder. He'd
look better than Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
And I've seeing dog poop look better than the Mets.
Game is still in the fifth inning and we've had
a magic carpet ride. This is just Al's Thursday. It's
like great Broncos in the Saints.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Hey, that check's gonna clear. He'll be just fine.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
And he's hanging with Ben, so get him some gumbo. Yeah,
we need something. We will have more from this game
if it merits. I will have more in this game
coming up throughout the night. Sixteen to three. Again Broncos
with the lead, and it looks like they're gonna be
kicking a field goal to make this a nineteen to
three ball game. Meanwhile, well, happening right now in New York,
it is the Dodgers on top of the Mets five

(03:05):
to two. Pitching change, Yoshinoba Yamamoto leaving the game, the
hit Francisco Alvarez to open the inning, struck out Francisco
Lindor on a fastball that was about three feet too high.
And this has been a big theme for the Mets there.
At bats have not been good, but the Dodgers have
kicked this game off with a home run from sho
Heo Tani. They have had timely and clutch hitting, and

(03:27):
you could say many things about the series to this point,
and still, you know, it's still a long way to go,
and the Mets games don't really start till the seventh
or eighth inning. But with the Dodgers up five to
Yoshinoba Yamamoto had a really good start. Talked about this
last night. If the Mets were chasing against Walker Bueller,
they're going to chase against Yamamoto. They've been chasing against Yamamoto.
But all the permutations combinations. I just come back to this.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
The Dodgers are now hitting the point where they're.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Playing their best baseball the postseason, and maybe the Mets
have already hit that point because they've kind of been existing,
you know, game to game the last few nights. They
had a horrible game one, they had a really good
Game two, they had a really bad Game three, they're
having a really bad Game four. The Dodgers seemed like
a team that you want to look back and say, hey,

(04:12):
Game four of the NLDS, it looks like that's when
they turn into the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
They had the big win over the Padres when they
went not nine for eight for eight bullpen guys from
Dave Roberts. They go on to win Game five with
a shutout. Then they come in with a shutout in
Game one, they get a shutout. In Game three, they're
out five to two.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Here.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
You could say a lot of things, but the Dodgers,
really they're playing their best baseball right now. And this
is what we expected from them most of the season.
Now they're getting what they needed, and the biggest question
was how is their starting pitching going to do? But
you're getting four innings out of Walker Bueler, you got
great seven innings out of Flaherty, you got five innings
out of Yamamoto and a three run lead, So you've
gotten everything you wanted out of your starting pitching.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I mean, look, you made the joke off air about
alvarez Is best at bat in weeks was the hit
by pitch?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, took one for the team. It's smarted.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
It took a second for him to get down to first,
but yeah, he won for one and now represents you know,
a runner, uh for for this potential Mets rally as
it were. Look, you can't walk as many batters as
the Mets have and think.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
But that's the whole season is the Mets of one.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
But eventually it comes back to bite you in the
as they've walked in in a playoff series where the
stakes are that much higher. And let's face it, you
know we were talking about this even with your dad,
uh and and of course with our executive producer and
mister Prossberg.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Just the umpires like.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
You got the Dodgers broadcasters for the for the home call,
complaining on both sides like normally it's the you know
all one way. Nope, nope, the energy was consistent of
these guys are just awful and it's back but it's
been back to back nights where you've had no consistency
whatsoever in the strike zone to where the players aren't complaining,
they're just looking back on Okay, what do we call them?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Tell me what it's gonna be? What are we doing?
Tell me what it's gonna be so I can adjust.
But yeah, so all.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Of those bad at bats, because Mendoza said this last
night and I just wanted to make sure to punctuate it,
commenting on the quality of the Dodgers at bats, and
then there was a pause leaving the obvious unsaid, we're
not getting.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Good at bats.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
We're going up too aggressively and not waiting for a pitch,
not making these guys work. And you've seen it this
entire series with the Dodger hitters is they've been patient,
drawing walks and setting up big opportunities.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I mean, I'd like to say that this is a
Dodgers thing, but this is kind of the Mets walk you.
It's hey, be patient, see a lot of pitches because
the Mets will put you on. Well.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I mean, that's the data point, especially for Quintana. And
they threw out the stat and it still they do
h go and get these specificity off it, but they
estimated it was low forty percent in terms of him
being on the plate.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Now, the one thing I can say for this right
because look, because it breaks down that way, the Dodgers
are the better team. They're playing their best baseball right now.
The one thing for the Mets I can say, Look,
I completely disagree. Carlos Mendoza needed to do something to
jolt the team tonight. He couldn't wait, and he's gonna
wind up waiting one too many games and he's gonna
make it when it's three games to one in the series,

(07:15):
is gonna be over.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But last night I said, you have a lot of
guys that.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Just aren't hitting. They're just aren't hitting, and you need
some kind of jolt. And as good as a Glacias
has been, and as good as you know, a young
player as Francisco Alvarez is, and as good as jad
Martinez was for parts of the season, they can't play.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
They can't hit. JD.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Martinez is waving at pitches in the dirt and he
doesn't stop the same thing with Francisco Alvarez. And I
want to want to go and talk about Aglacius, who
was hitting three point fifty. Now he's swinging it stuff
that is way outside the strike zone and he's not
making solid contact. The Mets needed to say, okay, you
know what this is. A Jesse Winker plays and then

(07:56):
we're gonna go back to Jeff McNeil, who's gonna play,
And Luis Torrens is gonna catch like I know sure?
And and Hernandez will play first? Yeah no no, Ray
Knight will play third. No, I got you, Rafael Santana shortstop, No, no, no,
I'm with you. They needed they need o man like that.
They needed some kind of change he needed see legend. Yeah,

(08:18):
they needed something to spark the lineup and they didn't
do it. And Mendoz is waiting a game too long
to do this because you can see they've had a
couple of chances not been able to go through. The
at bats aren't great. Look, the Dodgers are playing great.
The Mets seem like they're hitting the wall. But when
his team seems like and they looked like they were
hitting the wall last night, you need to do something.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I get you want to.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Be you want to be beholden and be loyal to
guys who got you there. But it's not gonna it's
not going to kill you to tell Iglesias, hey man,
you're not hitting. Take a day. I've been the everyday
second baseman. You're thirty four years old, you're Candelita, You're
OMG you're the you know, we can put in a
Jeff McNeil who maybe is gonna give us a little
bit better at bats. We can put in Louise Torrens,

(08:58):
who is not going to be a big hole at
the bottom of the right. We can put Jesse Winker
and who is at least getting on basic times, and
not Jad Martinez who looks like he's done at thirty seven.
Like that's the one thing I can say is that boy.
They needed some kind of spark tonight and Mendoza didn't
do it. And we talked about it last night, and
right away after the game he said, no, same guys
are playing tomorrow, Like, dude, you got to take a
step back and understand that you can't play this like

(09:20):
I'm loyal and these guys are gonna what these guys
are gonna break out against y'all. I mean, come on, man,
what are you doing? You need someone You gotta put
some lefties in there against Yamamoto. You have to figure
something else out. Sometimes it's just about changing the energy
and maybe it's a little bit different, and instead the
Mets just look like a team that's punching the clock
right now. They're looking for answers. They can't find them
at bats aren't good. I just watched Mark Fianto strikeout

(09:42):
on a fastball down the middle. He didn't pull a
bat off his shoulders on like I wonder if the Dodgers.
The Dodgers have just defeated the Mets mentally. You know,
they hit the home run to tie the game in
the first ending after Otani's home run. Okay, the Mets
got the momentum back, and then the Dodgers bleed their
way to more runs infield, single drives, in a run,
the Mets walk a couple, and it's just the Mets

(10:03):
look like mentally they're a little defeated right now. And
if you're a little defeated against the best team in
the National League and maybe the best team in baseball,
guess what, You're not gonna win games that way.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
And you've ended five, you've only gone to one guy
in the bullpen thus far, Yamamoto with his seventy three pitches,
he finished with eight strikeouts, giving up the tour and runs.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
In four and a third.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
They give a way to Phillips and now we move
on to the to the meat of the game, to
where you still have all your high leverage guys for
the Dodgers lying in wait, so you know, opportunities have
been there. Mets have certainly had them leaving runners on
base once again, Dodgers had opportunities for monster innings, and

(10:42):
they made the out pitches. The Mets did a good
job to contain what could have been even bigger rallies
to keep them in the game. But then once again,
just bat at bats and then you finally get a
fat ball to Hammer and he watches.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
It go by.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
No, it's you can say a lot of things, right,
You could say a lot of things, but I'm a realist.
The Mets have overachieved. They certainly have enough to play
the Dodgers. They're they're they're a heavyweight team. But the
Dodgers are playing great at the right time right some
Sometimes it's get in the playoffs and you gotta get hot,
and boy, the Mets got hot and hot at the
right time right end of the regular season. Carry them

(11:19):
through the Brewers series, carry them through the Philly Series.
Dodgers kind of meandered their way to the end. All
of a sudden, it was like they flipped a switch.
In Game four against the Padres, shutout, shut out, shutout, loss,
shut out, now dominating this game five to two and
the sixth inning. It's like they are peaking at the
time when it's like, hey, we're gonna take this into
the World Series, right, not playing that first round, Which

(11:41):
is why the argument for.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Do you really want the bu the bue no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
The Dodgers showing you this is why you don't want
to buy, because they're going to be playing their best
ball going into the World Series, where whoever comes out
of the American League after tonight, that's going to be
a big thing. Right, But the Dodgers have started to
play their best baseball, and you see that this is
the team we thought we were going to see all season.
We saw it early in the season for so sure,
and then they kind of just said, Okay, we're good.
We got the big lead in the West. We're going

(12:05):
to play five hundred the rest of the way. We
don't know what our pitching is going to be. And
the big question mark has come through for them so
big in the postseason. I now you're mixing and matching
throughout the season. I mean, like it's been well chronicled
the number of pitchers that they had to go through
the bullpen. Depending on where you were grabbing and which
metric you wanted to rank them, they were no worse
than fourth as a bullpen as a whole. So when

(12:28):
it all comes down to it is they were well
versed in the rhythms of how a game was going
to operate, because it was rare that you saw a
starter get into the sixth, let alone finish it.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
We didn't get that much at all. You know when
Flaherty did it the other day, you know, you wanted to,
you know, shoot off some fireworks because it was a
big deal because you didn't go to five six guys
out of the pen to get yourself a w So, yeah,
it's peaking at the right time, pulling all the strings.
Joey Oton now one one for one, you know, with

(13:03):
nobody on base.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
And then because we walked them every other time, because
we could pick random arbitrary points by which to start
the streak.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
So, guys, I got a chant, ready repeat after me? Ready,
go ahead for Rostburg?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
What do you got the the Mets.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Say it, Mets say it, stink say it, and Frostburg stink.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
There you go, Mike, you were supposed to join, and
I said, you guys, oh, I thought it was just
for him. No, I would have said, Jason, I got
one for you.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Okay, all right, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine. You're
not from a pile on Mike. What what's up? The season?
Mets games don't start till the eighth inning. Man, it's fine.
You said we didn't play that. It was fine, we didn't.
I'm sure. I'm sure that the ball was juiced. I'm
sure they find.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Well, I mean you had other people were saying that
they had the signal. Yeah, sure, sure that the same
A million things floating around the inner web. You got
other folks saying that the the whole production part of
things was canceled in New York. Did you see that
meme that was going around saying, Wow, this is this
supplier for Major League Baseball. They notified them they wouldn't

(14:14):
need them for the Mets.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
For this.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
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Speaker 2 (15:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (15:13):
Oh Sing It Jason sing.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
X Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show
with My best friend Mike Harmon. Imperial Haghway, bottom of
the sixth inning. The Dodgers' lead is now seven to
two over the Mets til Maton comes in and in
my best Larry beal, here it comes, and there it

(15:37):
goes Mookie Betts a two run homer to give the
Dodgers say seven to two lead as the Mets come
to bat in the bottom of the sixth inning, and look,
it's that simple. The Dodgers are peaking and they're making
mincemeat and hamburger out of a Mets bullpen that doesn't
have one trustworthy reliever right now, right. So to get

(15:58):
a little bit more into this, we'll get to the
Guardians and the Yankees in a minute. Uh what do
Ioas tell you? Show me a bullpen having a bad series.
I'll show your team get knocked out of the playoffs.
You can overcome a lot in the Major League Baseball players.
You can overcome a series where you don't hit because
you can pitch and you can do well. You can
overcome a series which you know, I don't have starting
pitching because you can hit the bullpen. Nobody can overcome

(16:19):
bad bullpen. Nobody can. And every series has that in
common the last few years in Major League Baseball, with
the lesser reliance on starting pitching. And you look at
you know, you look at you know, Boyd who is
Where was he six months ago? And now here he is,
you know, starting Game three for the Guardians.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Right what was he?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I was teaching my kids little league team and now I'm
starting Game three of the Ald Disney anyway, right now,
So with the more reliance on the bullpen, it's become
that simple. You can overcome a lot in the playoffs,
but you will not overcome a bad bullpen. And the
Mets bullpen has zero, I mean zero trustworthy relievers. Right
there's nobody to go to. They don't have one. Peterson

(16:58):
lost his mojo. Buoto was a best reliever over the
last couple of months. Can't go to him. Dz is
in every other game guy, he's the lamar Odom of
Major League Baseball closers. Ottovido, who is our setup guy
last year, isn't even on the roster this time around
because he's not good enough. They just the Mets have
zero trustworthy relievers and the Dodgers have all of them,
right like that and that, and that's a big reason

(17:19):
you wouldn you know, to parse this out a bit more.
Is that that, you know, I look at why the
Mets are losing, why the Dodgers are winning, and and
the bullpen for the Mets is what really has just
betrayed them. Because when the starting pitching comes out all right,
but there it's like, hey, now we're in you can't
bring anybody in that. We're afraid anybody that. Okay, here's

(17:39):
a big, high leverage guy. Yeah, okay, yeah, you bring
in your high leverage. You don't have any high leverage guys.
Everybody you have that is low leverage. Like it's when
when that kind of confidence is hitting a team. Uh,
it is something to watch. And I watched the Mets
have it against the Phillies and the Brewers and the Brays.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
But watching the Dodgers have this against the Mets, it's
quite something else because the Mets really they have no
relievers to bring there. No, they haven't had any in
in a month. They've had nobody to bring it, and
that's killing them.

Speaker 7 (18:07):
Well.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
As Guerrilla Monson would say, it was a reversal of fortune,
the reversal of circumstance, because to your point, you would
talk going into this series, the expectation was, hey, we'd
gotten into bullpens and we decimated what were some of
the best bullpens in Major League Baseball. The Mets had
taken care of business, good at bats, quality at bats, waiting.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
On a pitch. This series no quite the opposite. They're
why they're.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
On the receiving end time and again of Dodgers hitters
just saying eventually, you're gonna give me a fat one.
I'm not I'm not first ball swinging. I'm not giving
you a freebie. We're gonna make you work. And when
you're two teams that are heavily reliant on bullpens because
you don't have anybody that really stretches games. No really,
I mean Manaiah at this point. But other than that,

(18:59):
you know you're going the pen fairly regularly. That again,
the the unlucky penny is going to show up time
and time again.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Every penny is the unlucky penny.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I always say, you go to the bullpen enough, you're
gonna find the guy not having a good day. No,
everybody the Mets go to it's not your day. It's
not your day, it's not your day. It's not your day.
It's all of these things. It's not anybody's day, nobody's day. Yeah, unfortunately,
you're just getting bled. It's not that one big awful
innings like, all right, we're still in this. Whoever comes,
here's another two run home, right, No, every couple of
innings that.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Dodger are getting a couple of runs.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
At some point you're gonna have to admit they suck.
Stop It's just stop, man, it just stops.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
You say, they think, hey, there's a good graphic though
from our friends at FS one.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Series.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
You're talking about what seven hits in about forty at bats.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I can't tell you anything. The Mets are doing well
this year. I can't tell you one thing they're doing well.
And i've black has been stylistic.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yes, I mean I don't think it's actually helping anything,
but they look good.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I can't tell you one thing they're doing well, and
I can tell you everything. The Dodgers are doing well
in theory. It's like, boy, how are they not going
for the suite? But the Mets had the big home
run by Mark Fientos, and the Dodgers played Game two like, hey, we.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Can win this game or not.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Oh okay, And that was the game the Mets won
when when Dave Roberts said, yeah, it's more important we
lengthened out our bullpen for the rest of the series
and try to win this game. And that's the game
the Mets had. So again, we'll have more on this
game coming up again. Bottom of the sixth inning, Dodgers
lead the Mets seven to two. Look him to take
a three games to one lead. Meanwhile, earlier tonight it
was the Yankees looking like they were going up three

(20:38):
zip against the Cleveland Guardians. It was everything the Yankees
could have wanted. They were down three to one in
this game and it doesn't matter. Top of the eighth inning,
they get lightning in a bottle, a two run homer
by Aaron Judge followed by a solo home run by
Gene Carlos Stanton, and the Yankees took a two run
lead into the bottom of the ninth inning.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
This is hoppy, was your dad at that point? He
was so happy, even though it was.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
No, you know, you know he said when I called
him earlier and Stanton because you know, in case, you know,
my dad just can't stand stand right like.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Judge is his guy. He loves chi.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
No.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
You know what I said to me after the guy
said Dad, oh, because I called him right after the
back to back home runs, I said, Dad, oh my god,
how about that from Stanton? He goes first thing he says, yeah,
but Judge tied it like that.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, But.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I go, Dad, you gotta work through these issues you have,
which you're in. Carlos Stantony's been so great this postseason. Yeah,
but Judge tied it. So they go to the ninth
inning and Clay Holmes is in and it looks like
this is gonna be it. The Yankees get a double
play to a race the leadoff batter of the inning.
The Guardians look like they're going down and they're gonna
lose this game and go down three games to none.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
But they get a double with two outs. Okay, everything
is still fine. Yeah, you got a two run lead.
Everything is all good. Not worried, not worried.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, But then Big Christmas comes up pinch with two
outs in the ninth and this is what happened.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Swing out in the hammer die deep tift away.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
In Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
John Chencey, no well, Big Christmas, John Kenzie, no, well,
with a no doubt about it, to run Homer to
tie the game at five apiece. It was insanity. Then
we get to the tenth inning, Guardians get a runner on,
move a runner over to second. You're thinking maybe a
walk off single by the Guardians. No, no, no, Stephen Fry.

(22:35):
All he does is at big home runs late in
games swing on hit high.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Hit deep to left deer.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
She goes.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Old look off to run home run.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
To the play cherson left by David Fry and.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
The magical twenty twenty fourth season. He's done by any
means play blame at.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Seven to five tenthning win. Hand me on the call
Indians Radio Network. So Stephen Fry with the big home
run against the Tigers. Uh hits the walk off homer
against the Yankees, and this is now I gotta look.
Is this the first walk off the Guardians have had
against the Yankees since Willie Mays Hayes on the Tom

(23:25):
Berenger bunt where he was able to come all the
way around from second base. I believe it's the first
walk off since that happened.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Wow, that could be. That's a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
It has a great slide by Willie Mayzes to to
avoid the tag.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
No, it was great slide, great slide coming in. Yeah.
Now you wouldn't be able to block the plate like
that until the.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Players coming all these stupid ass rules that they keep
changing in major plate interference inference.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
That's what's happening.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
So the Guardians winning a walk off absolute insanity and
Yankee fans are just incensed right now.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I can't believe this. I can't leave this. I can't
believe they open the doors. I can't believe this.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
You have the opportunity to go believe. I mean, if
you're down to your last strike. And Big Christmas. Oh,
by the way, there's nicknames and there's Big Christmas. Like
Big Christmas is one of the is a top five sports.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
I need to see if he's been included in any
of the inscription subsets from a baseball card company where
that's inscription shows up.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
If not, I'm gonna get Christmas for Big Sexy. Oh,
Big Christmas. I think Christmas is pretty well. Big Sexy
has a pitched so long time. Big Sexy is pretty good.
But Big Christmas is like you can really make something
to that, Like you can market that. A lot of
guys call themselves yeah, but a lot of guys call
him yeah. But you make more money if you have
something at the holiday season, the holiday. You can make

(24:44):
a Hallmark movie and Big Christmas could be in it
and nobody's watching it all of a sudden, Oh, people
watching Kidney gets the holiday. As long as Lacey shot
bears in there, they're in once once Thanksgiving hits.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
It's all Hallmarks and Dan mckelly. Now you can watch
it right now. They've been running the holiday but no
these for a couple of months. I mean, we're two
weeks away from flipping here locally, right.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
You know who's in the Most though? Is uh what's
her name? It's not h Dana mckeller. No, no, no, Danica
Keller's in the I actually did this not too long, Frank,
we didn't know. We did the quiz who starred in
the Most and until she left it was Candace camera right,
But then now it's somebody. Lacey Shaber is number two.
Danic goo Keller's like number three. There's somebody else who's
been in More and I can't and I can't think

(25:23):
of who it was.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'm like, oh, yeah, obvious, I know on the top
ten some time. Yeah, but uh, I don't know. There's
somebody else's Lacy Sabert.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
I think I don't feel we have to figure out
the rankings. But uh, I'll find that out because I
actually had an ad for a new Lazy in short
order as well as whatever that Kelsey the one that
decis no, no, no, they Kelsey Taylor swift base one
that's coming.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Right right, the one with the yeah because they did
a big figures Bagley Junior. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
People give me five people who've never thrown a football
for one hundred thousands, and then.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
We're gonna have the Chiefs one. What it is, this
is the Chiefs one, d drich Bader. Who else?

Speaker 4 (26:10):
But they're throwing a football back and forth. Likes like,
h does he play Lawrence? Is that dedrig Baty plays LaRence?
He's a next door neighbor rocking the mullet you're watchings
Patrick mahomes kind of a game manager.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Now, Peter, he's not not somebody Peter, Peter. He's kind
of a game manager.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Uh So. But look, this is the crazy part about
the Yankees and this, this is what is infuriating, is
that the Yankees lose this game in such incredible, heartbreaking fashion,
right down to the final strike. The Guardians tie it.
They went on a walk off the next inning. Everything
it took for the Guardians just to get just to
get this game. The Yankees have had a season where

(26:51):
it's been ups and downs, they've not looked like a
great team, and still they're they're twenty games over five hundred.
They come into the playoffs here they run the face
is like a bunch of drunks. They make bad mistakes,
they're pitching, betrays them, and still they're gonna win this series.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
This one again and still Caring almost lost his mind
in the moove, like he paused at one point.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'm like, hey, he's almost gonna curse. And it's not
right there.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And it's not that the Yankees are great, but they
find a way to overcome horrendously bad plays that are
just killers for most teams. And yes, when Judge and
Stander are hitting home runs in every game, I don't
know how that helps you. But that's so maddening and
so frustrating about the Yankees. You want to punch of
wall is that they could plays this badly. They can
do all they can do, all of these things, and

(27:36):
still they're gonna waltz to the World Series because nobody
they played. And we talked about this a month ago.
Congratulations to a Rod and everybody else who took this
take that we had as soon as the first round
of the playoffs was over, we told you the Yankees,
if they don't make the World Series, it is an
absolute epic fail because the two teams in their way,
they did have the most trouble with the Assos and
the Orioles got knocked out in the first round. It's

(27:58):
an easy path for them. Said it from the beginning.
Congratulates to everybody who took that take about a couple
of days ago. But this is exactly where we're at.
And this is what's so maddening is that the Yankees
can withstand all of this sub level play and still
make it. And a couple of sub level plays for
the Mets against the Dodgers, and that's it. Your throat
is cut, Like that's it. It's not how many dopes
have come forward with you. You are twenty seven titles

(28:20):
like it's been you got one and yeah a long
long time. Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a bit,
manh Yeah. The two thousand and nine when they beat
the Phillies a long long time ago, that was it
was Cliff Lee.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Was actually play pitching back then. I think he won
the two games. Yeah, he won two games with the
Phillies in that series and the Yankees won the rest.
Fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, fifteen years, dude, I was in kindergarten Okay, what
that's what happened. I bet the Yankees had a better
year than you did in kindergarten.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I mean I passed. We'll flying colors.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Oh that's well, you're supposed to pass. And if you
fail kindergarten, you really have to try to fail kindergarten. Oh,
you eat too much to try.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
All Mary mac did was eat paste. I was a
good kid. Why did you want her test? Actually took
other kids lunching a lot of things. I did do that,
and I'd put on my hand, let it dry, and
then I'd peel it off and I'd leave them all
over the classroom. Oh and you still you still pass kindergarten.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, fingerprints all over the place. Congratulate all those bad
things that can come out of that.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Look at me now working for Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Yeah, look at that.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
You all that, and here you are sitting next to us,
all that stuff. We're all the same.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Time Now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports where things are getting a little interesting
at City Field right now, I don't know a lot interesting,
but a little interesting.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
And Steve de Sager has the latest.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Oh it is not close to over bottom of the
six it was bases loaded, no outs for the Mets.
They are down at home seven to two to the Dodgers.
Now bottom of the sixth and one out in this one.
The Dodger bullpen is going the rest of the night
because the starter, Yamamoto, went four and a third, eight strikeouts.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
And one walk.

Speaker 7 (29:54):
Looks like we've just got to pop out for the
second out and the bases remain loaded in the bottom
of the sixth. The Dodgers at the moment up two
games to one in the National League Championship Series. Show
Hey Otani with a leadoff home run in this one,
Mookie Betts with a two run double in the fourth
and a two run homer in the sixth. And then
there was that game at Cleveland. The Guardians on a

(30:15):
tenth inning home run beat the Yankee seven to five.
David Fry the hero, a man who had homered a
week ago at Detroit to win a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
The loss to Clay Holmes.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
The Yankees in the top of the eighth got back
to back homers from Aaron Judge and Gencarlos Stanton. Off
closer Emmanuel Class who was the best closer in baseball
this year. In the bottom of the ninth, Yankee closer
Luke Weaver, who's been incredible the last week a month
and a half until this week, allowed the tying two
run homer ninth with two outs to pinch hitter John

(30:46):
Kenzie Noel. Just a crazy, crazy night and game. The
people north of the border at sportsnet Stats make sure
to point out that the Yankees, in their long postseason history,
have never won a playoff series when allowing a walk
off home run in one of the games. But this
was one of the rare games in postseason history to
have four game tying or go ahead homers in the

(31:09):
eighth inning or later. And the other involved Cleveland the
opener of the nineteen ninety five Alds, which yes, Cleveland
won on a walk off homer. And yeah, then we've
got the NFL game tonight. If you're not watching, you're
not missing. Broncos lead twenty six to three at New
Orleans early fourth quarter and former Saints kicker Will Luttz

(31:34):
is four for four on field goals in this one,
and a lot of people out for the Saints wide
receiver Chris Olave out tonight with a concussion. They've had
a couple of defensive injuries in the game. Wide receiver
for the Saints, Rashid Shaheed is out for the year
after knee surgery today is now on injured reserve. New
Orleans quarterback Derek Carr could miss another three weeks or

(31:54):
so with the oblique injury, and tight end Taysom Hill
is still out with a rib injury. The Titans really
he's safety Jamal Adams as he'd requested, and the Clippers
Kawhi Leonard is out in definitely with knee inflammation.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Shocker.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
This is not a repeat.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
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(32:32):
the air. Dodgers going to the bullpen right now. The
Mets bases loaded, nobody out now bases loaded, two outs.
Brandon Nimo can't score on a sacrifice fly attempt by
Jeff McNeil. Nimo having some of the Planner fascia tough
time running, doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Just still didn't look happy. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Jeff McNeil is bad at bat chasing pitches outside the
strike zone. This is what the Mets have been doing,
helping the Dodgers out the entire series. But still not
out of it yet. Uh, Dodgers going to the bullpen
with bases loaded, two outs, Mets batting in the bottom
of the sixth Uh, this innings, This inning's not over
yet more. If okay, you know what, if okay, if

(33:12):
Darryl Strawberry pinchits, it's a grand Slam here. You just watch,
you just watch what happens at this place. Certain these
players are professionals.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
They can.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
They can take any kind of uh, any kind of
any kind of of of flak you want to give them.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
So, bases loaded, Mets batting, bottom of the seventh inning,
Jesse Winker, Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Let's see if he rewards my faith. He correct Mundo.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
So we'll have more on this game, en plus another
big story out of the NFL coming up next and
oh my goodness, Jesse Winker has just flown out to
the warning track, uh seven to Dodgers lead. Nobody turns
bases loaded, nobody outs into no runs quite like the
Mets to Uh So, we'll keep you posting here, but
it certainly looks like the Dodgers about to go up
three games to one.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Big NFL story on the way. Next. Jason to Mike
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I need to take some time to heal. Tell me,
Darren Waller, I need time to heal.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Top of the seventh inning, Dodgers get out of a
bases loaded, nobody out jam because nobody turns bases loaded,
nobody out into no runs like the Mets, and they're.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Batting with first and second.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Top of the seventh Max Munsey has just tied Reggie
Jackson for the MLB record of reaching base twelve consecutive
times in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
He just singled to start the seventh inning.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Twelve consecutive at bats he has reached either on a
hit or a walk. Like I said when you run
into a team playing their best baseball. Well, this is
what's gonna.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Happen, dialed in guys with playoff experience, not like the
Dodgers haven't been there before.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
It's one of those things.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
I remember when Keith k Hernandez, they were interviewing him
after the Hurroics, like, oh, what's different from the other seven,
you know, when he cursed and became that much bigger
a folk hero, but very much that of like, yeah,
we've done this, so we we don't necessarily feel the
pressure the same way. Outcomes could have been better, but yeah,
the opportunity knocks once again for the Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
So debating stats on that, by the way, okay, because
important people that are in control of the stats are
saying it's Munsi's record.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Not Reggie Jackson's.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, once it was eleven, I believe, Okay, Okay, I'm
going off with a couple of Dodger things.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Okay, so he now he is twelve times.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
I'm not saying you're wrong, Okay, saying there's conflicting reports
right now, which is the lead?

Speaker 7 (35:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh you know what, you're right, You're right that there
are conflicting reports. You know what they should do. They
should call Reggie. Hey, dude, well how many times you
get did you did you reach base? How many times
you read?

Speaker 3 (36:03):
It could be Steve.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
The saga brings up a brilliant point. Reggie was two
years combined.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Oh so that's probably why you know what, Steve, why
don't you call the great statistician Sarah Langs and see
what Sarah Langs.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Has for you on this.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Sarah Langs is the one who points out that Reggie did.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
All right, So we'll wait till we'll wait to see
if it's which it is, if he has tied the
record or if he is.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
He tied that record, but he has the single postseason mark.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Right, So that's why story Halloween Season based on Steve Sager's.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Record. That matters. Sure, okay, all right, son, He's got
the months he has the record for one.

Speaker 7 (36:39):
Reggie's leftover was from the three homer game against the Dodgers.
Oh okay, and then all of the getting on base
to start the next postseason.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Leftovers, unless it's Thanksgiving, I leftovers all the time, you can,
you know, leftovers. I'm gonna I'm gonna kill tonight being
down three one of the Dodgers. My my tire, my
entire refrigerator is gonna get cleaned out when I get
the sitting there. Whatever is left Donald and whatever's open
on the way back. This is a double chicken, big
mat mate. I don't now we have a big.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Story about the cowboys coming up in the cupments. But
I want to tell you this.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
This is how I know we've been talking about Jerry
Jones way too much, is because I had an incredibly
long dream about Jerry Jones last night. Really okay, I
woke up, I won nervous, No, I woke up and
it was Jerry Jones was coming on the show. And
we were interviewing the pants Run and we were interviewing

(37:31):
Jerry Jones. And it was the first interview after he
got mad at all the radio hosts in Dallas. Who
that's been the big story this week obviously, And he
came on the show and we were interviewing him and
he said, and he said, I heard you do an
IMPRESSI Nubby, so let me hear your impression. So I
was doing my impression of Jerry Jones to him.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
I ain't got time to jack with you.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Jerry and Jerry Jones said, Jerry said, see, this is
the kind of interviews I should be doing when when
this is going on here, and I'm like, oh, this
is so great, and what a great interview that says
we're having fun with Jerry Jones. And then I said
to him, I said, you don't need to do Jerry
is you need to go on a tour like you
see now when everybody is waiting to see whether Kamala
Harris or Donald Trump is going to do an interview,
they're going to talk a lot like if you went

(38:11):
on a tour like with somebody else, like another NFL owner,
and you had like a like a.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Debate, and said it would be so cool.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
And I said, like, I could be like Bob Kraft
and you would be Jerry and I would say something like, hey,
you know, we can't have any more expansion teams, And
Jerry Jones said, no, can't have enough of them, need
more expansion teams. There there's your there's your headline for you,
there's your there's a thing that can go viral for you.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
More, I'm gonna bring more expansion teams to the NFL.
That was the dream I had. I don't know why
it went that way. Me doing my impression to Jerry
Jones and he liked it, but and then giving me
the you know, giving us the the scoop. Hey, he's
gonna have more expansion teams in the NFL. This is
how I know we've been talking about Jerry Jones just
way too much. No, that's good, just way too much.

(38:56):
I like that the show absolutely consumes you. I don't
have any memory of dreams.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Oh, I just don't. I don't know that I get
deep enough into sleep to where I hit dream state.
Well you have to. You got to get to rem
sleep at some point. I don't know. If not.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
You're like a bear after the White Saw season. It's
been a long, long, long road for me. Here a
lot of angst exit up about a Fresca exit swollen down.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike car got that big
Cowboys story, big updates, baseball and football straighthead, keep it
right here, Jason and Mike.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
This is Fox Sports Radio ETA three. Is the score
right now? Four minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 7 (39:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Look, it has been a very triumphant night for Sean
Payton coming back to New Orleans and the Saints honoring
Drew Brees of the game tonight. He was in the
booth there that honoring him by not scoring a touchdowns.
I congratulate New Orleans. That's that's absolutely fantastic. Congratulates New Orleans.
Congratulates Yeah, Cody Barton. Obviously with the play, I went

(39:55):
for Hawkeye and tried to bring Clinton.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
But just a miserable game and halftime. Richard Sherman assessed it.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Thus, Lee, they look like they've quit and they want
their coach fired, referring to Dennis Allen.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Second half has been more of the same. Now they've
got a number of injuries.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
But wait, Mike, but wait, I remember after the second
week and the season, the Saints were great and people
told me they were great, and I said, no, they
still stink. And maybe the Cowboys just stink, but no, no,
the Saints were so good and their receivers were so fast.
Everything was so great. No, the Saints stink. We told
you they stink. Yes, they have injuries, but the Saints stink.
And when you're at this point now you're talking about, hey,

(40:31):
is the coach gonna get fired? What's going on? I
told you they stunk. They were closer to picking first overall,
but they beat the cowboy all.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
They beat the cowb at.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
No, we told you the cowboys might stink, and boy,
how right were we? And now the Saints you realize
they just think they Boy, how bad are the Cowboys?
Then if you if you see how bad the Saints song?

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Transferring that property between teams. But yeah, this is an
abject failure. I mean, you saw Kamara a couple times
on the sidelines demonstrative because at one point he had
five carries for two yards, five catches for eleven yards.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
So at least from a PPR standpoint for fantasy purposes.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
You're gonna ended up with a with an okay night
in what should have been a plus situation passing game.
Obviously bereft of playmakers, Noah Lave, no Shaheed, he's done
for the year, and Derek Carr they're saying he's closer
day by day whatever. But Rattler's been awful. The offensive
line has been pathetic in holding back and look, this

(41:30):
is what you get to do sometimes pulling the string
against a rookie quarterback. But normally you find some way
offensively to at least slow it down. This is just
a giant flood at this point, coming after Rattler. Look,
this is the Broncos have a really good defense. You
could tell this was kind of made to order it.
I thought we get some sort of creativity, some different
way for the Saints to try to move the football. Instead,

(41:52):
it's just they're done right and advance. Joseph's having his
way with anything they want to put out there.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
And yes, and is it tough.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yes, a lave is Rashichi heat is now out for
the season. We found that out earlier today.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, but in theory, these are all the guys you
were playing with on the second unit that had been
elevated to play with you, so you should have some
level of familiarity.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Come on, bub means I picked him up in fantasy.
He's got three catches.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Come on, but Sir Tan's not playing on the other
side right to take on one of their big playmakers.
Part of it goes back to that missed opportunity. Nicks
throws an awful pass. He ends up looking like a
wizard in a thirty three three blowout situation, but he
throws what would have been an easy pick to the

(42:36):
honey Badger who just flat out drops it because he
sees green field in front of him. I don't know
that he returns it for a score, but you might
have had a chance to put seven on at the
end of the half. Instead, you end up with a
Broncos possession that continues for another field goal. Will lutt
having a huge day against his former squad.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
If you lose like this to the Broncos right in
the Broncos stink, Yeah, I mean under sea. If you
lose like this to the Broncos, what are the odds?
Like I would think about this going to Vegas? I
want to bet that. And we'll have Todd Furmo in
this next hour in the show, the Saints go from
winning the first two games and they lose the last fifteen, Like,

(43:18):
what kind of odds would you give me on that?
Because that certainly looks like how this is skidding because
they have no playmakers. You know Alvin Kamaras, he was
a good player, but he's older now, he's almost thirty,
and he's just not the same dynamic guy. Again, we
told you the Saints were bad coming into the season,
but they beat the Carolina Panthers, who were the worst
team in the NFL up until you know, they made

(43:40):
the quarterback change and now they're still one of the
worst two or three teams. But the Saints are right there, man,
the Saints are just right there. And yes, you could
talk about the injuries all you want, but this is
still a really, really bad football team.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
The fan Agadford at home and again Drew Brees would
have loved to see him put on a Superman cape
and trying to play the second half.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
You guys want to know how about this game is
how upset? How Michael is Ben now co hosting?

Speaker 5 (44:04):
I'm gonna give you a real discussion that him and
Kirk Herbstreet are having on the air.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Okay, go ahead, what him is so bad? Okay?

Speaker 5 (44:11):
That they're discussing if Connor McDavid is the best NHL
player of all time, of all time, of all time, milestone, right,
and Michaels went Gretzky.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Of course, Gretzky is the greatest of all time. Really,
band says it was Drew Dowdy. Okay, all right, very good,
all right, all right, I want to hear what Ben
has to say twice that that was that well, that's that.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
No, Milwaukee doesn't have a hockey team.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
All right, So that's the conversation they're having, and Michaels
is getting paid a million dollars for this.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
What do you know about something else? Now, let's talk
about it. Let's talk about a great player somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Exit out about a Frasca exit swallowed down the Jason
smithser with Mike Corman, live from the TIREC dot Com studios. Now,
as bad as things look for the the Cowboys, right,
how bad the Cowboys look coming off this game with
the Saints getting tasted like this? They are catching strangers
from everywhere because earlier today Troy Aikman he does a
weekly radio hit in Dallas as well. Jerry Jones does it.

(45:14):
But who knows for how much longer I'll get somebody else.
I heard the Smith kid say he had a dream
about interviewing me. If he if he's gonna do my
impression about me to my face, I don't need to talk,
so we can just got he can talk like me.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
And that's the interview.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Troy Aikman not happy with the Dallas efforts, specifically CD
Lamb and the wide receivers. Now Dak Prescott may say,
I love my guys, I love CD they're so talented.
Troy Aikman had a different take on the Cowboys wide outs.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
I think the routes are terrible. I think they run
terrible routes, and I thought that beyond this year. And
I think CD's got to improve and his route running.
And as a quarterback, if you're not certain where guys
are going to be consistently, it's hard. It's hard to
play the position. And so that's that's what I see.
I see guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage.
Sometimes they sometimes they run. Usually if they do, it's

(46:04):
because they're anticipating they're going to get the football in
that play. But if they're not, they don't. And it
all ties together, and so I'm not impressed with that
part of it. I've just finished watching the Baltimore Ravens
because I have them this week. You put on a
film of Theirs and watch their receivers run routes and
they come off the football and so to San Francisco's

(46:24):
Green Bays and others. But it's hard to play the
position if you're not certain how guys are going to
run routes or where they're going to be. And I'm
not speaking for Dak. Dak may say, hey, I think
everything's amazing, but as a former quarterback watching it, it's
got to get a lot better.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Ninety six to seven the ticket in Dallas, Troy Aikman
just completely torching. Let's go, why was it mentioning CD
Lambine name and look, let me throw something out there too.
Let me throw something out there, right, because we talked
about a guy. If he did, let me talk about this,
Troy Aikman, Cowboys head coach.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
That'd be great. Troy Aikman, new Cowboys head coach, that
would be fantastic, all right.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Now, throughout his time with the Coup, people don't know this,
but throughout his time with the Cowboys, he was always
someone who would call out his teammates on the sideline.
He would call out bad blocking. He would call out
when something's not being done right. Like that was truy.
He wasn't this, hey man, great, great, No, he was like, hey,
you're blocking is for crap and it's blankety blanke and
it sucks and it's this and it's that.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
He was that kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
And you see Troy and and you see him say
and talk about the Cowboys like to say, listen, you're
all lazy getting off the line and anywhere you look today, Hey,
let's see if Troy Aikman is right. Oh boy, guess
what he is?

Speaker 6 (47:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
You can see any number of plays from the past
couple of weeks where hey, if I'm not getting the ball,
I'm just coming off the line and not doing anything.
And and it makes sense that you know, look, you
think about a guy like Troy Aikman, who's who would
be such a big deal in Dallas obviously, and it's
it's kind of weird that an age where you go
from the broadcast booth to being head coaches now without

(47:56):
a lot of experience, we've seen that.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I wouldn't be surprised if in.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
The offseason Troy Aikman becomes a candidate to be the
next head coach of the Cowboys, because you think about
Jerry Jones, and Jerry Jones is someone who doesn't like
when the spotlight is away from him, right, It's why
he's always hired for the most part head coaches, who hey,
I handpicked you and you're the head coach, but really
it's about me. But he is so rattled right now

(48:24):
with saying this team is me.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
This team is me.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
It's my picking, it's my players, it's my this. He
does the interview where they go, Jerry, do you think
they stink? Because you didn't anybody this offseason. He gets
all mad, has a big hissy fit on the radio,
threatens to fire people. Jerry Jones does not whoever it is.
He does not want the Dallas Cowboys to be bad.
He does not want the Dallas Cowboys to be irrelevant.
So that's the thing. Teams like the Cowboys and the Lakers,

(48:49):
when they know they're not gonna win a championship, well,
we got to go out for relevancy, which is why
the Lakers drafted Brownie James, which is why Jerry Jones
kept Dack and gave Ceedee Lamb money. If we're not
gonna win a championship, we're gonna buy relevancy and they
will keep us good. But he doesn't want to get blamed, okay,
because he's been all this in my team, it's my,
it's my, it's my, it's my, it's mine, it's mine.
But now, okay, Jerry, it's yours. It's your fault.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I need a little bit of misdirection. Here.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
We talked about the potential of Bill Belichick at Thanksgiving.
If things go really sideways for the Cowboys. There's only
three and three, so it wouldn't happen for a little bit.
But Thanksgiving, if the Cowboys are out of it, he's
gonna do something big. And while the attention has been
on Belichick, I would not be surprised if the tires
are kicked on Troy Aikman because he is and and
and and when I thought about this today, I said,

(49:34):
I'm really surprised no one has maybe, you know, try
to take a run at him before, because he is
someone that's a student of the game. He is someone
that has a lot of respect. He is someone that
can walk into a locker room and people would understand
he has that relationship with people in the game. And
and when when that's become like a fertile ground. Now, Hey,
broadcasters who have been involved in the game that no
things and understand that football and sports now is it's

(49:56):
about relationships and optics and what you do and hiring
great coaches to help. I'm really surprised that Aikman hasn't
been approached before. But really, I think about the offseason
now and think, wouldn't that be a home run from
Jerry Jones. He's got Troy. Troy would get a lot
of the attention. But Jerry would hire Troy. Remember you
were my quarterback when he won championships, And if the
Cowboys won, Jerry still would have no problem taking all

(50:19):
the success of it. Now, Ken Troy and Jerry co exist?
Could they work together? Because they actually do that, that's
the big question. But man, if you called Troy Aikman
and said, hey, man, I know you're making a lot
of money here, I know you're doing well everything else,
head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, I wonder what he
would say.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
One of the things I've always loved, you know, from
his time at Fox and then obviously thereafter, is that
Aikman's always been pretty honest in his broadcasting. You know,
I'm almost critical to where people were like, wow, he's
actually going in because most former players don't. Right, It's
one of those things that we always wait to see,

(50:53):
All right, where are you gonna draw the line? Well,
he's far enough for moved from playing the game that
it doesn't matter. He's gonna call out bad play, a
sloppy play, lazy play.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
In this case, that it would be interesting.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
I always wondered why he wasn't in a front office
and whether that interested him at some point in terms
of the evaluation process and everything. But coaching, Look, McCarthy's
walking the plank. It's just a matter of how far
he's out at this point, right, because I don't think
McCarthy gets the same love and extended grace that Jason
Garrett did. I don't think he ever adopted Mike McCarthy

(51:28):
quite the same way. No, right, so to that if
this season does continue to slide as it has, and look,
they didn't address the run game, and every once in
a while, Rico Dowd will do something like all right,
you see some shades, but it's not there. Zeke's complaining
about his role, Dalvin Cook's not a non factor at

(51:50):
this point, and beyond Cede Lamb, it's a lot of
wishing and hoping. They're on their bye week this week,
so maybe they figure something out. It's just them and
the Bears on Buy this week, But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
I like the cut. I like the idea Troy I'd
floated to him.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Cowboys head coach Troy Aikman had this to say following
another three interception day, but Dak Prescott Cowboys head coach
Troy Aikman had this.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
You know what, I never had any interception days. I
was efficient with the football.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
The most popular thing would be Cowboys head coach Troy
Aikman said this when comparing the current Dallas team to
his Super Bowl team of nineteen ninety six and then
nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Every nineteen he kept rolling up the name big old
Nate Newton every chance he got.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Jason, you just gave Mary like seven heart attacks. She
just thought every time you were going to a piece
of audio.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Treyigman had this to say, what about I only had
that one cut? I genuinely was scared too. It's all right,
it's all it's all good. My job is on the line,
by the way. Yeah, just like Mike McCarthy. It's all good. Yeah,
it's like all the Mets players. Yeah,