October 22, 2024 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the Chargers losing to the Cardinals on Monday night and explain why Jim Harbaugh is struggling to adjust to the current NFL. Jason believes the future is brighter for the Mets than it is for the Jets. Plus, the Ravens are at the top of their game!
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We got more in the Ravens win over the Bucks.
Coming up in a few minutes, Lamar Jackson's five touchdown
Nights Boy, the latest on Deshaun Watson Russell will the Jets.
But we just watched the Cardinals kick a field goal
final play of the game to beat the Chargers seventeen
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to fifteen. And there's two big things to take away
from this game. First one is this Cardinals were beneficiaries
of a big controversial call late after Dicker kicks his
fifth field goal of the game to put the Chargers
up fifteen to fourteen. Chargers defense has played great, They've
played great all year, and again we'll have more on
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them coming up in a few minutes. And the Cardinals
get the ball back and it is first down incomplete,
second down incomplete. It was looking at third and ten,
and for a team that hadn't had a lot of
offense tonight, it certainly looked like the Chargers were going
to hold on to this one, and then a big
third and ten play that and then the big second
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and ten play that goes incomplete except a big flag
on the Chargers Cam Heart for personal foul leading with
his helmet leaving his feet to go after the receiver
on the incomplete pass. And I know that social media
is already crazed with oh what kind of sport do
we play?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Is it still football? Can you do this?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Can you not hold on for a second when you
leave your feet and you lead with your helmet, which
is what Camhart did. When you leave your feet and
you lead with your helmet, you open the door to
the referee throwing the flag. This is not that it
gets called every time. This is not that it shouldn't
get called. It should, but this is the NFL now,
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and you know that they are really really looking at
personal fouls like this. They're looking at targeting, they're looking
at leading with their helmet, they're looking at leaving your feet,
and when you do that, you open the door for
it to be called. Doesn't mean it gets called every time.
It's different interpretations for officials all the time. I bet
you there's half the officials across the league would go, yeah, no,
(02:59):
I didn't really see any thing there. But when you
do it in front of the referee and you kind
of leave your feet and you lead with your helmet
and you make contact with the other player's helmet, albeit
just a little bit, you open the door for the
flag to be thrown. This is one of those. This
is one of those Hey be smart, don't lead with
your helmet, going with your shoulder, don't leave your feet.
(03:20):
This was a Chargers defense that was feeling good because
they were playing great all game, and they got loose
and sloppy with this play.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Because it's not that it's a penalty. It's not.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's always a penalty, but you don't want to leave
the door open for them to be able to throw
the flag. And that's what the officials saw here. So yeah,
it as a persa file that I see it. Eh,
I think that's something you could have put the flag
in your pocket, but I understand the referee throwing it.
And that's the big takeaway is that don't put yourself
in a position for them to throw the flag. And
that's exactly what heart did. He put himself in position
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for the referee to throw the flag, so they threw it.
They didn't lose the game because of this play. You
want to talk about this play, Yeah, they lost it
because he wasn't smart enough or didn't was Nabel hold
himself back and not make a play where the officials
could take the flag out of his pocket?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
No, And that's just it, right.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It becomes the interpretation, as we said a little bit earlier,
where the officials standing their vantage point of what he's
trying to do, because he really doesn't. He looks like
he launches himself, but he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Really.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It's all about angle and anticipation and what he's trying
to do where Harrison's coming into the play. And yeah,
by letter of the law, you throw the flag based
on what you see. But I know this is going
to be one of the first plays that gets chopped
up by officials in their meetings in the let's wrap
(04:42):
up week seven. And what we saw that was good, bad,
and ugly reality versus your perception because the reality is
at least from our vantage point. And again we have
the great TV vent and I was able to rerun
it now just thirty seven times.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's not a penalty to me, but it was. Yeah,
you got to open the door, and that's me. You
open the door for them to throw it. Don't open
the door. Don't open the door for them to throw
the flag.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Don't do it. You know what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Don't lead that way, don't lead with your helmet, don't
leave your feet like it's it's that simple.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Simple things, right. You don't have to blow the guy up.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
No, And the thing is this is that's why this
is a Charger defense that tonight and all season has
been feeling good because they are bleeping terrific. Yeah, and this, hey,
here's a big play. We have been hitting these guys
all night we have been They've had one play all night,
the Kyler Murray broke and play forty four yard touchdown run.
We are feeling good right now. When you're feeling good,
mistakes like this happen because that that's what it was,
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the mistake. Don't do this and don't let them give
them the opportunity to throw the flag.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's so, you know, it's like when when your your
parents tell you, you know, they understand.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
You're young, and when you go out and do.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Things that if you're you're out past curfew, whatever it is,
it's they always would say to me. My mom would
say to me sometimes it's like don't, don't. Don't give
me a huge reason where I have to come down
hard on you, like, you know, you did you do
the right things most of the time.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I did well in school.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Uh, you know everything, don't you know, don't don't go
crazy with it, like if you, if you, if you,
if you blow past curfew and curfew is one thirty
and you commit a one forty five, okay, But if
curfew's one thirty and you come in at two forty five, okay,
guess what you're gonna get grounded.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And so I'm like, okay, I understand something.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I've always understood something like that because we had that
conversation when I was seventeen. You know, don't don't drink
four diet coach, just drink one diet coke. You know,
we would have that conversation. And and so that's what
it is. Okay, hey, be physical out there, but don't
don't give them the chance as well. You know what
I'm looking for it because every every referee crew looks
at something different. Just watch games where hey, wow, how
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is my how is my best defensive back getting flagged?
Four hands on a receiver all the time? Why because
the coach talked to somebody before the game or the
referees no going in, Hey he likes to put his
hands on receiver. We're gonna throw the flag all the time.
You know that each referee crew looks at something different.
You don't know what they're gonna do here. So hey,
how about you just you know, don't go crazy, don't
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try to blow the guy out.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Well, and this is the one thing that's the point
of emphasis for every officiating crew, right any of the
launch helmet to helmet all of those things. The NFL
doing their best as they can to try to eliminate
as many of those as they can, So this one
it comes out of that. It's the perception if you're out,
even if you're just sitting in a park hanging out talking,
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the fact that you're out at one am means that
the perception of the policeman on the beat or policewoman
that gets called means you might be a knuckle head
up to go goody sitting around.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
You might be doing absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And maybe the police officer is gonna say, hey, may
a police officer say hey, knucklehead, go home. Go what
are you doing here? Go home and watch you leave
the park. Or the police officer gonna say, hey, knucklehead,
guess what hands behind your back?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Is that open container? I'd say, yes, what I mean,
don't open it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Up to that now. You also talked about going to
the fourth diet coke. I did find out early in
the broadcast seven. Here are our team on the Chargers
broadcast Prostburg helping to held in that thing. Shannon Farron
from the sideline talking about Jim Harbaugh's healthcare a week nd.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
One of the things that he had to give up
short term di coke wow wow, because of the heart arrhythmia.
Something he had to deal with in the short term
was the diet coke had to be pushed to the side.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
So dow drink four, drink one.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, okay, okay, I say that that's Michael. My only
source of caffeine is die as I sit here and
drinking mccaffe gonna say no, Mike, my caffeine intake is
not nut.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Or if I throw a cup of coffee in front
of you, sure, And I started replacing the water that
you drink it home with caffeinated water.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All those things. Now you bring up, Jim Harbon. This
is the second thing, and this is a big deal.
Is that first short term is they need to go
out and get a wide receiver. They have severely miscalculated
this offense and they have to help this defense out
because this defense, outside of the Vikings most impressive defense
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I've seen this season, they don't do anything particularly great.
They don't get after the quarterback, they don't force a
ton of turnovers. Because that's what we look at. We
look at a great defens Wow, look at all the time.
Twelve sacks, nine sacks, seven sacks here, or look at
the turnovers three in turnovers here. They don't do any
of that particularly great. I mean they do it okay, right,
they get turnovers, they get sacks, but they get off
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the field all the time. They get off the field
on third down. They are that you can't really mount
any kind of momentum against them because they just get
off the field. They have been terrific from the beginning
of the season, but you have severely miscalculated this offense.
And we told you coming in. My only concern for
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Jim Harbow was, dude, has the NFL passed you by?
You've been in college for a while. Yes, you know
what it's like to succeed in the NFL, and getting
to the super Bowl with the forty nine ers is terrific,
But the NFL has changed. You've been in Michigan the
last few years, and bringing a Michigan offense here, well,
you know what, You're not gonna be able to sledgehammer
run the football with running backs and not have anybody
to throw the football too. And while lad McConkie looks
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like he's gonna be terrific, like that last drive for
the go ahead field goal. I think Herbert threw to
McConkie on almost every play. But you have nobody else,
and your running backs are just okay. It's not like
you brought in Oh boy, we have Jamir Gibbs and
David Montgomery.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
No, you have guys that couldn't stay healthy with the Ravens.
And this is what my big concern is that has
the NFL passed Jim Harbaugh by because offensively, you can't
put this team out there Justin Herbert has nobody to
throw to that you'd wonder why you're kicking five field
goals over the course of a game. You can't just
say goodbye to all of your wide receivers from a
year ago and think, yeah, we're gonna be fine. I mean,
(10:44):
you came into the season with but yeah, you drafted
Lad mccaky and he's pretty good. But you need some
other guys that the team is gonna be afraid of.
There's nobody you have to worry about game planning against
with the Chargers, and right now, Justin Herbert's going, man,
I'm doing the best I can. But this is an
antiquated way of drawing up and playing offense in the NFL.
And they need to go get a wide receiver now.
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Maybe it's a reuniting with Mike Williams, although the Tampa
Bay Bucks may be calling the Jets or Mike Williams
at some point soon. But they need a wide receiver,
need one now, because I worry that that has the
NFL passed Jim Harball by the fact that he decided
to come into this season with this attack on offense
and say, yep, you're gonna let all our wide receivers go,
not gonna keep but nop, gonna get rid of everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You gonna have just a bunch of guys out there.
But really, the Charges have always had good viders. Right,
We're good. We're good.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
We're good, Gonna bring back guys to the Ravens. My
brother told me these guys are good. Don't worry, We're
all good. He likes both of these guys. But why
weren't they with the team? Doesn't matter, doesn't matter. We
have them now and and and it's really a shame
because this is a Chargers team that, honestly, they could
almost be undefeated because of how good their defense is
but the offense has been so bad and they struggle
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so much, and you need some some I don't want
to say, you need some easy scores now and again.
That's gonna be able to juice the offense up a
little bit. But it just takes so much for the
Chargers to get down the field. There's no Hey, here's
a fifty yard pass you're gonna get once in a while,
and three plays are in the end zone, like you
need that once in a while. But there's none of
that for the Chargers. Everything is an absolute fight. They're
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fighting for every yard. When you do that, you're not
gonna be good offensively. So they need to go to
wide receiver. But the bigger concern is, hey, does Jim
Harble understand you can't play offense like this in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
It's big things Pittsburgh West is how they've been semn
things together.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
We're gonna run the ball occasually, make it play in
the pass game. Obviously, Russell Wilson hits on some deep
balls last night. So maybe you see the next iteration
of that squad for Arthur Smith's offense. As George Pickens
re engages after a couple of tough weeks of having
his effort, integrity, all those things questioned, and then he
let the cat out of the bag about Russell Wilson
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actually playing, but he fought here. Lat McConkey was your
leading receiver going into tonight's game. Quentin Johnston had the
two touchdown game early missing this one. So you talk
about injury, but otherwise Will Disley, JK. Dobbins, Josh Palmer
made a nice catch, but to the coming into this game,
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he'd only had thirteen targets, so you're devoid of the
downfield threats. So yeah, you're playing like the Steelers. We're
gonna grind you out, defensively, run the football and go
from there. The fact that you go from the Ravens
where we've questioned for years, they're training training rooms with
a number of injuries like mirror images the Harbam Brothers there,
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because that's what you've got. And with the Chargers, year
after year, a number of games missed due to injury
has been immense. But you don't have a game changer.
I mean, Johnson's the guy you would hope becomes that guy,
but he hasn't been consistent. You saw last year was
an absolute failure, and now he can't stay on the field.
Unfortunately misses this one where you know you're down to
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another possession, and that's that's it. It's going to be
the grind it out. You've got three your last four games,
you've scored fewer than twenty points. Now, did you face
a couple of good defenses in there, Yeah, Arizona wasn't
one of them.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You couldn't start now. Part of it.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
You had the first possession with riger going in what
looks like gonna be an easy touchdown. Possession becomes the
unfortunate touchback and we're going the other way. But you
had to settle for field goals all night long. You
couldn't finish a drive because you can't get separation. You
can't find someone downfield to make that work. So, yeah,
(14:32):
you've got to make an adjustment the next week and
a half for wide receivers. If I'm a pissed off
guy in a locker room, I'm making as much noise
as I can. I'm overturning all the water coolers. I'm
calling out coaches. I'm trying to get myself out of town.
Because you're looking at the Saints picked up MVS, so
maybe they're out. Maybe they still need another guy, right,
Olave is still in concussion.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, Aaron Rodgers can tell the Jets to make a
trade for him.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
But you got the Jets, you got the Chiefs, and
you got the Chargers, now the Buck and Hears. You
got a lot of teams that think they can be
in the mix that we'll be calling to try to
find another wide out.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And oh, by the way, don't forget about the Lions
because Jamison Williams is going to be out.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
For a little while. You never know. I mean, look
a couple of games, looking at a two game suspension.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Suddenly Mike Williams is the most sought after guy in
the NFL. Wouldn't it be funny if he goes back
to Detroit? Were they once upon a time had a
guy named Mike Williams? Oh sure, sure, sure, look good?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I did there? Connector dots Ma.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
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Speaker 3 (15:46):
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Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I feel like both Man Jack a Foreigner for
Era nineteen seventy nine hot a song in the fifth.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Grade Foreigner Hot Blooded.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
The J Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
Tirec dot Com studios. So just to pull the curtain
back here a little bit here on a Monday night,
So with all the action over obvious, the NBA begins
tomorrow night. Yeah, let's go all is overnight. Everything else good,
everything else is done. Everybody's looking for scary movies to
put in our four TVs, and normally I don't care
(16:22):
what is on, but I put I put an end
to the fact that Mary Mack and Brian Berschinger want
to put Midsummer on a TV.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Well, it's more mean.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Of the greatness that is Flora not happening. No, not happening,
not happening.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I'm surprised how quickly you were. I didn't even know
what was playing when I just saw the plane and
I was like, what is it?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I s I saw Florence, you on a plane, and
I knew Trust me when I tell you this, Okay, try.
I feel like I'm in a horror movie. Okay, you
can never. Midsummer is a phenomenal movie. It's one of
the best horror movies that I've ever seen. You only
want to see it once because there are things in
it you will never unsee that you will think about
out for the rest of your life. You do not
want to trust me. I am saving you with Midsommer.
(17:05):
Don't open the book and read the incantation.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But why not?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
It's right here.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Don't open it.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You're gonna open the portal to Hell. Let me see
what that looks like. Trust me.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You do not want to see Midsummer. You don't want
to see it's kind of an interest. Hartman showed it
to his kids when they were like six. Okay, so
I've been dealing with that for a while. They weren't
that young movie. Old Souls movie came out five How
old is Maddie now?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Sixteen? Okay? Movie came out five years ago? Hell old
was she then?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Well?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
She didn't see it in the You do the math
on this in the theater? Did you see it a
year later when it was on here too?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Since we got it to teen years by the way,
the New Florence Pew though we Live in Time with
Andrew Garfield gut wrenching.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's from A twenty four, The Crazy Good Movie.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
But it was Fantastics a twenty.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
They made Midsummer I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yes, yeah, I'm telling you you will see it. And
then you're gonna say, Jason, why didn't I.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Have you seen long Legs? They made that too?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yes, says long legs is good? Is that the one
with the second he's a spider and he's got really
long legs.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, that's what it is. Okay, No, you did is
you don't want to know? Oh my god? Can I
make a joke? You think you know what?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Mary?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Watch Midsommer? Go ahead, good turn on Midsummer. God go
watch it right now? God watch it? Mary?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Why put it on? Put it on the TV so
you can watch mid.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Because I know you don't want to watch it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I know I've seen it already. There's stuff I already know,
there's stuff I'm never gonna not see him.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Really it impacted you because she was on the TV
like she was on the plane.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yes, I know you're trying to trying to ask for
our Monday night merriment and enjoyment of the evening together.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I'm just trying to would not be on the screen.
But go ahead, you know what, go ahead and.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Go I mean, I'm seeing human Centipede, so I don't
know how bad it could get.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Go ahead, it's human centipede is really really bad? Sequel?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Know?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, there's like four of the human millipede. Is that
the sequel? No, didn't start Benjamin Millipede? Was he in it?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Okay? All right? Very good?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
The Jason Smithso with Mike Carbon live from the tire
rack dot Com Studios. Now, big night of Monday Night football.
We saw five touchdown performance from Lamar Jackson. We have
big injuries to break down. The Chargers find a way
to lose. But look the story the last couple of days,
he went, honestly, they play into each other. And he
watched Mike Tarico mention it last night during the game,
going boy long, suffering Mets fans had to watch the
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Mets lose here and watch the Jets lose their fourth
in a row. Yeah, he was kind of smug about
it too, though, because you think is he's a Jets fan.
He's a Jets fan. Yeah, he's like me. He's a
Jets fan, so he gets it. But you know the
difference here. And I'll tell you what is that you
think I'm I'm a lunatic right now there people want
to do wellness checks on me. Yes, I got more
texts last night after the Mets loss that I usually get,
(19:55):
went like when when Bobby Benia day happens. It was Hey,
I'm so sorry. It was so good. It was so
guy and.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You know, I'm at Chevez Ravine and the experience was great,
and the electricity in the stadium, even with the Dodgers winning,
you know, Zoe got to see what that was like.
And Pam was like, oh my god, this is I said, yes,
it's insane. In a playoff game and season we got three?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Did you get four? So Walt got to go. I
don't know. I want my dad the other game two?
My dad.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
No, my dad couldn't go. It was too late at
night for him, it was too late for me. He
wouldn't get back until like nat nine, ten o'clock.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So uh. And also the tickets are really expensive, but
well there's uh, but twelve hundred get in for your Friday.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my dad. My dad is keeping an
eye on the market. Let's just say, oh, you know,
I'm looking at the tickets. Yeah that keep looking.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
That's okay. Keep since two.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Thousand and nine, keep looking for in nineteen eighty one.
If you want to go back to a Dodger's Yankees,
keep off up a buck, you cheap.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Keep looking.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But for all of this, And you know, the thing is,
I left Chaevez Ravine last night and I was fine
because the Dodgers were a better team and I'm not
gonna play but we weren't supposed to be that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
No, we were there.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
We're ahead of schedule. But I left and I was
okay because, yeah, the Mets. The Mets play great. No
that they lead the bases loaded a couple of times. Yes,
their their bullpen was terrible. There was nobody to go
to at the end. I'd rather come out there at
the end than see film Aton come out again. But
I felt good because the Mets have figured out something
(21:19):
that is really hard to only the best organizations figure out,
and that is to be big and be good at
the top three positions on the team, and that is owner,
general manager, slash president of operations, and manager. And after
years forty years of the Mets bungling their way through
things because the will Ponds were awful, hiring and firing
(21:41):
a manager every other year, trying to just bring in
high priced talent to make it work.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
The Mets had no plan. It was every year, We're
just we're just gonna do it as we.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Go and the and the Mets now we're gonna be
good for a decade because they have built a winning philosophy.
They have a really good owner who learned a lot
very early, has one of the best, if not the
best personnel guys in baseball running the team now, and
David Stearns we waited for. And they have a great
manager in Carlos Mendoza. Look the good times are here
now and I feel great about that because the structure
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is there and it's terrific. Now you compare that with
the Jets and why I feel like the Jets because
the Jets forever have been that team where we're gonna
duct tape and band aid things together. There's no plan.
Look at their top three in the Organs say what hey, Johnson,
he wants to win, but the guy doesn't know how.
And he gets too impatient. He makes moves all the time.
And then he leaves the team for five years and
comes back and I'm in control of the team again,
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and Joe Douglas is the GM. He's built a roster
with a bunch of talent on it, but there's no cohesion.
The head coach, Robert Salin wasn't any good, but the
head coach before that, and the head coach before that,
and then coach before that, and the Jets keep hiring
and firing head coaches and hiring and firing gms, and
now they jump to another head coach. All the Jets
are doing is what the Mets have done for years,
and that is We're gonna get a bunch of high
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priced guys, spend money, throw it in a pot, and
hope it works. And that doesn't work in the NFL.
You still need to have great owner, great GM, great
head coach. That's going to get you a more sustained
success than having a star quarterback, a star hitter, a
star pitcher, or whatever it is. And that's the difference
between my two teams. The Mets. I feel great about
and I feel proud that we're Hey, we've done it.
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We have a great vibe, and all the players who
were who were done talking about how much they want
to stay and what they love going on there. And
I watch the fans singing my Girl for Francisco Lindor
Eve when the music comes out, and I get they
have a great thing going on. And I watch the
Jets and I see Aaron Rodgers at the end of
the game blaming, blaming the media. Don't listen to you guys,
blaming his receiver. I just look and go, my god,
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the Jets are an absolute blank show. That's what happened
when they put in. They already have, but it's it's
forty years of this and it's the same. They keep
doing the same thing over and over again. And now
what have they done? What they Hey, we have it's
a pretty good roster. Let's go spend money on a
bunch of guys. Let's throw them all in and see
what happens. We go get Aaron Rodgers. Now it's not enough.
Let's go get DeVonta Adams. Oh, let's fire our head coach.
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Let's trade for a sawn Reddick. Let's all these things.
We're just gonna try to throw money and talented things.
And it never works because the Jets don't have a plan.
They are in a constant read and react situation. Boy,
we're at the bottom of the AFC East. How can
we potentially win games and cut corners and get there
as fast as we can because no one's there for
a rebuild. Well, yeah, it's not like it was in
the seventies and eighties, where a three year rebuild might
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lead to something in year four. You need a one
year rebuild to get to some kind of results, and
the Jets have always failed at that. But they've never
had a plan. It's the owner hires a GM and
then the head coach gets fired. It's a new head
coach and the GM gets fired, it's a new GM,
the new etc. And they just don't know what they're doing.
They don't know how to run a franchise and how
do we put in a situation where we can have
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sustained success. Sometimes a great owner is just letting the
GM and the head coach do things their own way.
Sometimes a great owner is, hey, I'm just a part
of the process as these other guys are. But when
you have strength at the three top positions, you're going
to build a winning culture. The Mets finally figured that out,
and I feel great about them for the however long
these guys stay, it's gonna be awesome the Jets, I go,
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it's just gonna be more of this. It's gonna be
more of this, more of this what's going on, and
easy for a season to come apart at the seams,
because that's how the Jets do business. There's never a plan.
It's always let's put duct tape on this, Let's put
a band aid on this, let's do it. Let's see
if we can just glue it together, hold on to
the whole two pieces together, so the glue drys blow
on it, and then we're gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
That's how the Jets do.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
You always get into the battle with the ownership of
whether they're just in it for the business side of it,
or they're truly a fan or has the fandom that
brought them in morphed over time because of the rising
valuations of their franchise.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Right you're in the honeymoon phase still with the Mets.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
If you got an owner who's still like the fanboy,
I I'm now rich enough to go buy a team,
Let's have some fun. Right, So you've got that part
of it, and yeah, they waited it out and they
hired the right guy. And we joke about it sternsy
all the time because of our buddy John Palmerosi will
talk to him as the week progresses and we get
ready for Game one. But just that idea of you're
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still in that honeymoon phase of what do I need
to do to make this work? And the keys to
the kingdom? Guess what go to a guy who has
a track record of building an organization from in baseball.
You need a minor league system that develops players. Guess
what Mets are finally doing that. They've had a lot
of guys in the in the through the years with hype,
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but then it never came to fruition moving. They were
what would we always say, quadruple A players, like right
on the edge but not quite pushing through. And now
you go and you make the investment and a couple
of big players. We'll see if they can actually get
into a bidding war with the Yankees for Soto after
the World Series ends. Bidding starts at six hundred and
fifty million dollars. But all of that to say, with
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the Jets, you got whatdy Johnson. I don't know where
he is on that continuum. He's Jerry Jones with a
little less outward media presence right of can't get out
of his own way. Let's keep firing things, kind of
like Steinbrunner was for a while. It's like next man
in Okay. That doesn't work break neck back the other
way and you're drafting near the top and those guys
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aren't given time to develop. You know why, because you
fire the coach and then this time you gave the
quarterback all the all the juice. So Joe Douglas, who
was building a pretty damn good roster suddenly has nothing
other than whatever his marching orders are from Aaron Rodgers
through Woody Johnson and into the field. Doesn't mean DeVante
Adams won't work and have some biggest impact was the
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tackling made at the one game, which kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Paull it did was, hey, we delayed a touchdown for
a play. Thanks DeVante. You appreciate it, but just saw.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
The offense move a little bit. But you fired. You know,
the the key to what your team was the guy
that ran the defense, and now you have to cobble
that back together. So that doesn't work as a guy.
That's Look, I'm a Chicago sports fan except the Gubs.
I've watched it in all those organizations. Why there's been
chance and signage for sell the team related to.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Everybody for years?
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Right, the Bears might have finally gotten it right, but
it wasn't something anybody anticipated. It was still they can
they please sell the team and move forward? Now you
got mccaskey's standing there cheesing with people in London because
everybody's thrilled about Caleb Williams in the direction that things
are headed. Will it have long sustained success maybe, But
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I've walked through that desert with you for many a year.
For the White Sox. Man two thousand and five's a
lifetime ago.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Man, just rematiner.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
When you have those top three positions, look at what
you can accomplish, and when you.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Don't, you get what you get.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Why it's such rarefied error, why we clamor for it
and wish for it at the crossroads.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
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Speaker 1 (28:59):
Going back to the eighties and Chardayd making his way
into the arena The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen
live from the Tirack dot Com studios, And uh, I
don't know if a fad accomplete at this point, but
certainly Lamar Jackson is gonna be the favorite to win
MVP again. I think he overtook fun today five touchdowns
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tonight against the Bucks. The Bucks led this game ten
to nothing, and that was the end of the good
times for the Bucks. The Ravens got up thirty seven
to ten, and as you know, the Ravens sometimes have
trouble holding onto leads, and the Bucks were able to
eat into it a little bit, but still forty one
thirty one is the win. Lamar Jackson is just short
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of a perfect quarterback rating for the night. He had
more touchdowns and incompletions. And in a year in which
Lamar Jackson's done this so far, you wonder how the
hell they lost to the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
But a guy that is really I don't think else
said you've seen in your life?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Has uh that's you?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
And how did they such consternation as a Ravens loss
to the rad How did.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
The Raiders in that fourth quarter?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
How did they do anyway, You're talking about Lamar Jackson,
who has won two MVPs right in twenty nineteen, and
he won it again last year when nobody wanted No
One's gonna No One mighty to gi him an offer
before last year.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
That really does come down.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Okay, guys going to the Hall of Fame. He's gonna
win the MVP again this year. But this is what's
this is what's different about this year is that this
is the best version of Lamar Jackson that we have seen.
He is on pace for a career a high or
or surpassing his career high in yards, and it's not
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even gonna be close. Like he's gonna blow by the
thirty six hundred yards he threw for last year. His
quarterback rating is going to blow past the rating he
set last year at one oh two. This is the
best version of Lamar Jackson that we've seen because while
he is still doing Lamar Jackson things running the football,
he is much better and much more efficient throwing the ball.
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And this is a team where hey, one week, it
could be Isaiah Likely, one week it's Mark Andrews. One
week in say Flowers, one week it's for Sean Bateman.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Like this is.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
They don't have a great group of wide receivers here,
but they have enough talent. And you know, sometimes when
you play with guys and you have another couple of
years with them, and he's had a couple of years
now with all of these weapons, it's not like we're
changing out.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
We're changing out.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Certainly, adding Derek Henry is big in the rushing game
because you have someone who is dependable that you don't
you give the ball to. You can get you tough yards.
But this is the best that we've seen Lamar Jackson.
We've seen bigger highlights from him, but the best overall
play this year, week to week, this is the best
version of Lamar Jackson that we've seen. He is not
he has not, but you've gone into a game and
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you say, oh, man, what a stinker he put up. Now,
he's had games better than others, but he's had no
States this year. You look at his his quarterback rating
in the last five games, his lowest rating is one fifteen.
He has been phenomenal. He's been efficient, he's been able
to move the ball up and down the field. There
is no hey, Lamar is gonna be inaccurate down the
field with the football. You're gonna be able to get
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the football back stop him from making plays in the pocket.
This is the best version of Lamar Jackson we have
seen in his NFL career.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Completing sixty eight percent of his pass is, fifteen touchdowns,
two picks after Tonight's barrage against the Buccaneers. Rashad Bateman
was a late first round pick coming out of Minnesota,
finally finding his space. Now obviously that the big touchdown
pass he was standing by himself.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, you got it. Run the round them all still
got to get there. Yeah, So you don't just let
your old time out. Look how wide open you just
give it a touchout.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I mean, look, we got plenty of examples to the contrary,
but dual tight end Derrick Henry to this point, you
know what, he's healthy. Something the running backs in Baltimore
we're not able to do. Ronnie Stanley is upright, that's
and that can't be understated. Good good work Todd Mounkin
and what he's doing as the offensive coordinator. But that
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offensive line has gone through its trials as well. And
and Ronnie Stanley was a guy that was on his
projected path towards, if not a Hall of Fame, very
much consideration. And then he's been missing giant chunks of
time the last couple of years, playing through a lot
of injuries as well. He's healthy and able to get
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out and spring Derrick Henry for some of these big
runs that he's got. So you've got a balance and uh,
you could pull the strings unlike before Andrews and likely
when you need him to stay in. Guess what they'll
commit to blocking again something a lot of tight ends
team to team, and you know which ones you're talking about,
Guys that won't do that. They're pass catchers at this point.
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They've got everybody all in, every every.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
And and that's and that's a huge deal. Is when
you can get that buy in from everybody into what
you're doing and you're not flipping weapons every year. It's
like that they decided over the past couple of years. Okay,
these are our guys. We love Mark Andrews, we're keeping him.
We like Isaiah likely right, and he's had a couple
of big games, but Zay Flowers is our number one.
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We like Bateman in the role that he has and
on down the line and This is Lamar Jackson now
with a couple of years with all of these guys,
and it's not like all these guys are lighting it up.
But it doesn't matter because Lamar Jackson's finding the right guy.
One week it's Andrews, one week it's Bateman, one week
it's Flowers. I mean, this is the best we have
seen him play.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Justice Hill is a change of pace guy, and a
receiver out of the backfield has been very good for
them as well. So you add it all together, you've
got a really good mix. And for Lamar Jackson, the
game looks that much easier, so it's good. This is
the best version of Lamar Jackson we have seen in
his career. He's also gonna rush for more yards than
he has in four years at this point.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
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of the NFL. To get you caught up on. Jason
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We got more in the Ravens win over the Bucks.
Coming up in a few minutes, Lamar Jackson's five touchdown
Nights Boy, the latest on Deshaun Watson Russell will the Jets.
But we just watched the Cardinals kick a field goal
final play of the game to beat the Chargers seventeen
(01:09):
to fifteen. And there's two big things to take away
from this game. First one is this Cardinals were beneficiaries
of a big controversial call late after Dicker kicks his
fifth field goal of the game to put the Chargers
up fifteen to fourteen. Chargers defense has played great, They've
played great all year, and again we'll have more on
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them coming up in a few minutes. And the Cardinals
get the ball back and it is first down incomplete,
second down incomplete. It was looking at third and ten,
and for a team that hadn't had a lot of
offense tonight, it certainly looked like the Chargers were going
to hold on to this one, and then a big
third and ten play that and then the big second
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and ten play that goes incomplete except a big flag
on the Chargers Cam Heart for personal foul leading with
his helmet leaving his feet to go after the receiver
on the incomplete pass. And I know that social media
is already crazed with oh what kind of sport do
we play?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Is it still football? Can you do this?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Can you not hold on for a second when you
leave your feet and you lead with your helmet, which
is what Camhart did. When you leave your feet and
you lead with your helmet, you open the door to
the referee throwing the flag. This is not that it
gets called every time. This is not that it shouldn't
get called. It should, but this is the NFL now,
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and you know that they are really really looking at
personal fouls like this. They're looking at targeting, they're looking
at leading with their helmet, they're looking at leaving your feet,
and when you do that, you open the door for
it to be called. Doesn't mean it gets called every time.
It's different interpretations for officials all the time. I bet
you there's half the officials across the league would go, yeah, no,
(02:59):
I didn't really see any thing there. But when you
do it in front of the referee and you kind
of leave your feet and you lead with your helmet
and you make contact with the other player's helmet, albeit
just a little bit, you open the door for the
flag to be thrown. This is one of those. This
is one of those Hey be smart, don't lead with
your helmet, going with your shoulder, don't leave your feet.
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This was a Chargers defense that was feeling good because
they were playing great all game, and they got loose
and sloppy with this play.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Because it's not that it's a penalty. It's not.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's always a penalty, but you don't want to leave
the door open for them to be able to throw
the flag. And that's what the officials saw here. So yeah,
it as a persa file that I see it. Eh,
I think that's something you could have put the flag
in your pocket, but I understand the referee throwing it.
And that's the big takeaway is that don't put yourself
in a position for them to throw the flag. And
that's exactly what heart did. He put himself in position
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for the referee to throw the flag, so they threw it.
They didn't lose the game because of this play. You
want to talk about this play, Yeah, they lost it
because he wasn't smart enough or didn't was Nabel hold
himself back and not make a play where the officials
could take the flag out of his pocket?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
No, And that's just it, right.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It becomes the interpretation, as we said a little bit earlier,
where the officials standing their vantage point of what he's
trying to do, because he really doesn't. He looks like
he launches himself, but he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Really.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It's all about angle and anticipation and what he's trying
to do where Harrison's coming into the play. And yeah,
by letter of the law, you throw the flag based
on what you see. But I know this is going
to be one of the first plays that gets chopped
up by officials in their meetings in the let's wrap
(04:42):
up week seven. And what we saw that was good, bad,
and ugly reality versus your perception because the reality is
at least from our vantage point. And again we have
the great TV vent and I was able to rerun
it now just thirty seven times.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's not a penalty to me, but it was. Yeah,
you got to open the door, and that's me. You
open the door for them to throw it. Don't open
the door. Don't open the door for them to throw
the flag.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Don't do it. You know what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Don't lead that way, don't lead with your helmet, don't
leave your feet like it's it's that simple.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Simple things, right. You don't have to blow the guy up.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
No, And the thing is this is that's why this
is a Charger defense that tonight and all season has
been feeling good because they are bleeping terrific. Yeah, and this, hey,
here's a big play. We have been hitting these guys
all night we have been They've had one play all night,
the Kyler Murray broke and play forty four yard touchdown run.
We are feeling good right now. When you're feeling good,
mistakes like this happen because that that's what it was,
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the mistake. Don't do this and don't let them give
them the opportunity to throw the flag.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's so, you know, it's like when when your your
parents tell you, you know, they understand.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
You're young, and when you go out and do.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Things that if you're you're out past curfew, whatever it is,
it's they always would say to me. My mom would
say to me sometimes it's like don't, don't. Don't give
me a huge reason where I have to come down
hard on you, like, you know, you did you do
the right things most of the time.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I did well in school.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Uh, you know everything, don't you know, don't don't go
crazy with it, like if you, if you, if you,
if you blow past curfew and curfew is one thirty
and you commit a one forty five, okay, But if
curfew's one thirty and you come in at two forty five, okay,
guess what you're gonna get grounded.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And so I'm like, okay, I understand something.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I've always understood something like that because we had that
conversation when I was seventeen. You know, don't don't drink
four diet coach, just drink one diet coke. You know,
we would have that conversation. And and so that's what
it is. Okay, hey, be physical out there, but don't
don't give them the chance as well. You know what
I'm looking for it because every every referee crew looks
at something different. Just watch games where hey, wow, how
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is my how is my best defensive back getting flagged?
Four hands on a receiver all the time? Why because
the coach talked to somebody before the game or the
referees no going in, Hey he likes to put his
hands on receiver. We're gonna throw the flag all the time.
You know that each referee crew looks at something different.
You don't know what they're gonna do here. So hey,
how about you just you know, don't go crazy, don't
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try to blow the guy out.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Well, and this is the one thing that's the point
of emphasis for every officiating crew, right any of the
launch helmet to helmet all of those things. The NFL
doing their best as they can to try to eliminate
as many of those as they can, So this one
it comes out of that. It's the perception if you're out,
even if you're just sitting in a park hanging out talking,
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the fact that you're out at one am means that
the perception of the policeman on the beat or policewoman
that gets called means you might be a knuckle head
up to go goody sitting around.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
You might be doing absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And maybe the police officer is gonna say, hey, may
a police officer say hey, knucklehead, go home. Go what
are you doing here? Go home and watch you leave
the park. Or the police officer gonna say, hey, knucklehead,
guess what hands behind your back?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Is that open container? I'd say, yes, what I mean,
don't open it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Up to that now. You also talked about going to
the fourth diet coke. I did find out early in
the broadcast seven. Here are our team on the Chargers
broadcast Prostburg helping to held in that thing. Shannon Farron
from the sideline talking about Jim Harbaugh's healthcare a week nd.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
One of the things that he had to give up
short term di coke wow wow, because of the heart arrhythmia.
Something he had to deal with in the short term
was the diet coke had to be pushed to the side.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
So dow drink four, drink one.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, okay, okay, I say that that's Michael. My only
source of caffeine is die as I sit here and
drinking mccaffe gonna say no, Mike, my caffeine intake is
not nut.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Or if I throw a cup of coffee in front
of you, sure, And I started replacing the water that
you drink it home with caffeinated water.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All those things. Now you bring up, Jim Harbon. This
is the second thing, and this is a big deal.
Is that first short term is they need to go
out and get a wide receiver. They have severely miscalculated
this offense and they have to help this defense out
because this defense, outside of the Vikings most impressive defense
(09:05):
I've seen this season, they don't do anything particularly great.
They don't get after the quarterback, they don't force a
ton of turnovers. Because that's what we look at. We
look at a great defens Wow, look at all the time.
Twelve sacks, nine sacks, seven sacks here, or look at
the turnovers three in turnovers here. They don't do any
of that particularly great. I mean they do it okay, right,
they get turnovers, they get sacks, but they get off
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the field all the time. They get off the field
on third down. They are that you can't really mount
any kind of momentum against them because they just get
off the field. They have been terrific from the beginning
of the season, but you have severely miscalculated this offense.
And we told you coming in. My only concern for
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Jim Harbow was, dude, has the NFL passed you by?
You've been in college for a while. Yes, you know
what it's like to succeed in the NFL, and getting
to the super Bowl with the forty nine ers is terrific,
But the NFL has changed. You've been in Michigan the
last few years, and bringing a Michigan offense here, well,
you know what, You're not gonna be able to sledgehammer
run the football with running backs and not have anybody
to throw the football too. And while lad McConkie looks
(10:08):
like he's gonna be terrific, like that last drive for
the go ahead field goal. I think Herbert threw to
McConkie on almost every play. But you have nobody else,
and your running backs are just okay. It's not like
you brought in Oh boy, we have Jamir Gibbs and
David Montgomery.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
No, you have guys that couldn't stay healthy with the Ravens.
And this is what my big concern is that has
the NFL passed Jim Harbaugh by because offensively, you can't
put this team out there Justin Herbert has nobody to
throw to that you'd wonder why you're kicking five field
goals over the course of a game. You can't just
say goodbye to all of your wide receivers from a
year ago and think, yeah, we're gonna be fine. I mean,
(10:44):
you came into the season with but yeah, you drafted
Lad mccaky and he's pretty good. But you need some
other guys that the team is gonna be afraid of.
There's nobody you have to worry about game planning against
with the Chargers, and right now, Justin Herbert's going, man,
I'm doing the best I can. But this is an
antiquated way of drawing up and playing offense in the NFL.
And they need to go get a wide receiver now.
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Maybe it's a reuniting with Mike Williams, although the Tampa
Bay Bucks may be calling the Jets or Mike Williams
at some point soon. But they need a wide receiver,
need one now, because I worry that that has the
NFL passed Jim Harball by the fact that he decided
to come into this season with this attack on offense
and say, yep, you're gonna let all our wide receivers go,
not gonna keep but nop, gonna get rid of everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You gonna have just a bunch of guys out there.
But really, the Charges have always had good viders. Right,
We're good. We're good.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
We're good, Gonna bring back guys to the Ravens. My
brother told me these guys are good. Don't worry, We're
all good. He likes both of these guys. But why
weren't they with the team? Doesn't matter, doesn't matter. We
have them now and and and it's really a shame
because this is a Chargers team that, honestly, they could
almost be undefeated because of how good their defense is
but the offense has been so bad and they struggle
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so much, and you need some some I don't want
to say, you need some easy scores now and again.
That's gonna be able to juice the offense up a
little bit. But it just takes so much for the
Chargers to get down the field. There's no Hey, here's
a fifty yard pass you're gonna get once in a while,
and three plays are in the end zone, like you
need that once in a while. But there's none of
that for the Chargers. Everything is an absolute fight. They're
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fighting for every yard. When you do that, you're not
gonna be good offensively. So they need to go to
wide receiver. But the bigger concern is, hey, does Jim
Harble understand you can't play offense like this in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
It's big things Pittsburgh West is how they've been semn
things together.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
We're gonna run the ball occasually, make it play in
the pass game. Obviously, Russell Wilson hits on some deep
balls last night. So maybe you see the next iteration
of that squad for Arthur Smith's offense. As George Pickens
re engages after a couple of tough weeks of having
his effort, integrity, all those things questioned, and then he
let the cat out of the bag about Russell Wilson
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actually playing, but he fought here. Lat McConkey was your
leading receiver going into tonight's game. Quentin Johnston had the
two touchdown game early missing this one. So you talk
about injury, but otherwise Will Disley, JK. Dobbins, Josh Palmer
made a nice catch, but to the coming into this game,
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he'd only had thirteen targets, so you're devoid of the
downfield threats. So yeah, you're playing like the Steelers. We're
gonna grind you out, defensively, run the football and go
from there. The fact that you go from the Ravens
where we've questioned for years, they're training training rooms with
a number of injuries like mirror images the Harbam Brothers there,
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because that's what you've got. And with the Chargers, year
after year, a number of games missed due to injury
has been immense. But you don't have a game changer.
I mean, Johnson's the guy you would hope becomes that guy,
but he hasn't been consistent. You saw last year was
an absolute failure, and now he can't stay on the field.
Unfortunately misses this one where you know you're down to
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another possession, and that's that's it. It's going to be
the grind it out. You've got three your last four games,
you've scored fewer than twenty points. Now, did you face
a couple of good defenses in there, Yeah, Arizona wasn't
one of them.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You couldn't start now. Part of it.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
You had the first possession with riger going in what
looks like gonna be an easy touchdown. Possession becomes the
unfortunate touchback and we're going the other way. But you
had to settle for field goals all night long. You
couldn't finish a drive because you can't get separation. You
can't find someone downfield to make that work. So, yeah,
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you've got to make an adjustment the next week and
a half for wide receivers. If I'm a pissed off
guy in a locker room, I'm making as much noise
as I can. I'm overturning all the water coolers. I'm
calling out coaches. I'm trying to get myself out of town.
Because you're looking at the Saints picked up MVS, so
maybe they're out. Maybe they still need another guy, right,
Olave is still in concussion.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, Aaron Rodgers can tell the Jets to make a
trade for him.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
But you got the Jets, you got the Chiefs, and
you got the Chargers, now the Buck and Hears. You
got a lot of teams that think they can be
in the mix that we'll be calling to try to
find another wide out.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And oh, by the way, don't forget about the Lions
because Jamison Williams is going to be out.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
For a little while. You never know. I mean, look
a couple of games, looking at a two game suspension.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Suddenly Mike Williams is the most sought after guy in
the NFL. Wouldn't it be funny if he goes back
to Detroit? Were they once upon a time had a
guy named Mike Williams? Oh sure, sure, sure, look good?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I did there? Connector dots Ma.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
La la exit, out out of Fresco Exit, swalling down.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the
Tirack dot Com studios.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I feel like both Man Jack a Foreigner for
Era nineteen seventy nine hot a song in the fifth.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Grade Foreigner Hot Blooded.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
The J Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
Tirec dot Com studios. So just to pull the curtain
back here a little bit here on a Monday night,
So with all the action over obvious, the NBA begins
tomorrow night. Yeah, let's go all is overnight. Everything else good,
everything else is done. Everybody's looking for scary movies to
put in our four TVs, and normally I don't care
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what is on, but I put I put an end
to the fact that Mary Mack and Brian Berschinger want
to put Midsummer on a TV.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Well, it's more mean.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Of the greatness that is Flora not happening. No, not happening,
not happening.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I'm surprised how quickly you were. I didn't even know
what was playing when I just saw the plane and
I was like, what is it?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I s I saw Florence, you on a plane, and
I knew Trust me when I tell you this, Okay, try.
I feel like I'm in a horror movie. Okay, you
can never. Midsummer is a phenomenal movie. It's one of
the best horror movies that I've ever seen. You only
want to see it once because there are things in
it you will never unsee that you will think about
out for the rest of your life. You do not
want to trust me. I am saving you with Midsommer.
(17:05):
Don't open the book and read the incantation.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But why not?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
It's right here.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Don't open it.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You're gonna open the portal to Hell. Let me see
what that looks like. Trust me.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You do not want to see Midsummer. You don't want
to see it's kind of an interest. Hartman showed it
to his kids when they were like six. Okay, so
I've been dealing with that for a while. They weren't
that young movie. Old Souls movie came out five How
old is Maddie now?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Sixteen? Okay? Movie came out five years ago? Hell old
was she then?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Well?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
She didn't see it in the You do the math
on this in the theater? Did you see it a
year later when it was on here too?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Since we got it to teen years by the way,
the New Florence Pew though we Live in Time with
Andrew Garfield gut wrenching.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's from A twenty four, The Crazy Good Movie.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
But it was Fantastics a twenty.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
They made Midsummer I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yes, yeah, I'm telling you you will see it. And
then you're gonna say, Jason, why didn't I.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Have you seen long Legs? They made that too?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yes, says long legs is good? Is that the one
with the second he's a spider and he's got really
long legs.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, that's what it is. Okay, No, you did is
you don't want to know? Oh my god? Can I
make a joke? You think you know what?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Mary?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Watch Midsommer? Go ahead, good turn on Midsummer. God go
watch it right now? God watch it? Mary?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Why put it on? Put it on the TV so
you can watch mid.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Because I know you don't want to watch it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I know I've seen it already. There's stuff I already know,
there's stuff I'm never gonna not see him.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Really it impacted you because she was on the TV
like she was on the plane.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yes, I know you're trying to trying to ask for
our Monday night merriment and enjoyment of the evening together.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I'm just trying to would not be on the screen.
But go ahead, you know what, go ahead and.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Go I mean, I'm seeing human Centipede, so I don't
know how bad it could get.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Go ahead, it's human centipede is really really bad? Sequel?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Know?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, there's like four of the human millipede. Is that
the sequel? No, didn't start Benjamin Millipede? Was he in it?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Okay? All right? Very good?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
The Jason Smithso with Mike Carbon live from the tire
rack dot Com Studios. Now, big night of Monday Night football.
We saw five touchdown performance from Lamar Jackson. We have
big injuries to break down. The Chargers find a way
to lose. But look the story the last couple of days,
he went, honestly, they play into each other. And he
watched Mike Tarico mention it last night during the game,
going boy long, suffering Mets fans had to watch the
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Mets lose here and watch the Jets lose their fourth
in a row. Yeah, he was kind of smug about
it too, though, because you think is he's a Jets fan.
He's a Jets fan. Yeah, he's like me. He's a
Jets fan, so he gets it. But you know the
difference here. And I'll tell you what is that you
think I'm I'm a lunatic right now there people want
to do wellness checks on me. Yes, I got more
texts last night after the Mets loss that I usually get,
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went like when when Bobby Benia day happens. It was Hey,
I'm so sorry. It was so good. It was so
guy and.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You know, I'm at Chevez Ravine and the experience was great,
and the electricity in the stadium, even with the Dodgers winning,
you know, Zoe got to see what that was like.
And Pam was like, oh my god, this is I said, yes,
it's insane. In a playoff game and season we got three?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Did you get four? So Walt got to go. I
don't know. I want my dad the other game two?
My dad.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
No, my dad couldn't go. It was too late at
night for him, it was too late for me. He
wouldn't get back until like nat nine, ten o'clock.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So uh. And also the tickets are really expensive, but
well there's uh, but twelve hundred get in for your Friday.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my dad. My dad is keeping an
eye on the market. Let's just say, oh, you know,
I'm looking at the tickets. Yeah that keep looking.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
That's okay. Keep since two.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Thousand and nine, keep looking for in nineteen eighty one.
If you want to go back to a Dodger's Yankees,
keep off up a buck, you cheap.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Keep looking.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But for all of this, And you know, the thing is,
I left Chaevez Ravine last night and I was fine
because the Dodgers were a better team and I'm not
gonna play but we weren't supposed to be that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
No, we were there.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
We're ahead of schedule. But I left and I was
okay because, yeah, the Mets. The Mets play great. No
that they lead the bases loaded a couple of times. Yes,
their their bullpen was terrible. There was nobody to go
to at the end. I'd rather come out there at
the end than see film Aton come out again. But
I felt good because the Mets have figured out something
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that is really hard to only the best organizations figure out,
and that is to be big and be good at
the top three positions on the team, and that is owner,
general manager, slash president of operations, and manager. And after
years forty years of the Mets bungling their way through
things because the will Ponds were awful, hiring and firing
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a manager every other year, trying to just bring in
high priced talent to make it work.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
The Mets had no plan. It was every year, We're
just we're just gonna do it as we.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Go and the and the Mets now we're gonna be
good for a decade because they have built a winning philosophy.
They have a really good owner who learned a lot
very early, has one of the best, if not the
best personnel guys in baseball running the team now, and
David Stearns we waited for. And they have a great
manager in Carlos Mendoza. Look the good times are here
now and I feel great about that because the structure
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is there and it's terrific. Now you compare that with
the Jets and why I feel like the Jets because
the Jets forever have been that team where we're gonna
duct tape and band aid things together. There's no plan.
Look at their top three in the Organs say what hey, Johnson,
he wants to win, but the guy doesn't know how.
And he gets too impatient. He makes moves all the time.
And then he leaves the team for five years and
comes back and I'm in control of the team again,
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and Joe Douglas is the GM. He's built a roster
with a bunch of talent on it, but there's no cohesion.
The head coach, Robert Salin wasn't any good, but the
head coach before that, and the head coach before that,
and then coach before that, and the Jets keep hiring
and firing head coaches and hiring and firing gms, and
now they jump to another head coach. All the Jets
are doing is what the Mets have done for years,
and that is We're gonna get a bunch of high
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priced guys, spend money, throw it in a pot, and
hope it works. And that doesn't work in the NFL.
You still need to have great owner, great GM, great
head coach. That's going to get you a more sustained
success than having a star quarterback, a star hitter, a
star pitcher, or whatever it is. And that's the difference
between my two teams. The Mets. I feel great about
and I feel proud that we're Hey, we've done it.
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We have a great vibe, and all the players who
were who were done talking about how much they want
to stay and what they love going on there. And
I watch the fans singing my Girl for Francisco Lindor
Eve when the music comes out, and I get they
have a great thing going on. And I watch the
Jets and I see Aaron Rodgers at the end of
the game blaming, blaming the media. Don't listen to you guys,
blaming his receiver. I just look and go, my god,
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the Jets are an absolute blank show. That's what happened
when they put in. They already have, but it's it's
forty years of this and it's the same. They keep
doing the same thing over and over again. And now
what have they done? What they Hey, we have it's
a pretty good roster. Let's go spend money on a
bunch of guys. Let's throw them all in and see
what happens. We go get Aaron Rodgers. Now it's not enough.
Let's go get DeVonta Adams. Oh, let's fire our head coach.
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Let's trade for a sawn Reddick. Let's all these things.
We're just gonna try to throw money and talented things.
And it never works because the Jets don't have a plan.
They are in a constant read and react situation. Boy,
we're at the bottom of the AFC East. How can
we potentially win games and cut corners and get there
as fast as we can because no one's there for
a rebuild. Well, yeah, it's not like it was in
the seventies and eighties, where a three year rebuild might
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lead to something in year four. You need a one
year rebuild to get to some kind of results, and
the Jets have always failed at that. But they've never
had a plan. It's the owner hires a GM and
then the head coach gets fired. It's a new head
coach and the GM gets fired, it's a new GM,
the new etc. And they just don't know what they're doing.
They don't know how to run a franchise and how
do we put in a situation where we can have
(24:41):
sustained success. Sometimes a great owner is just letting the
GM and the head coach do things their own way.
Sometimes a great owner is, hey, I'm just a part
of the process as these other guys are. But when
you have strength at the three top positions, you're going
to build a winning culture. The Mets finally figured that out,
and I feel great about them for the however long
these guys stay, it's gonna be awesome the Jets, I go,
(25:02):
it's just gonna be more of this. It's gonna be
more of this, more of this what's going on, and
easy for a season to come apart at the seams,
because that's how the Jets do business. There's never a plan.
It's always let's put duct tape on this, Let's put
a band aid on this, let's do it. Let's see
if we can just glue it together, hold on to
the whole two pieces together, so the glue drys blow
on it, and then we're gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
That's how the Jets do.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
You always get into the battle with the ownership of
whether they're just in it for the business side of it,
or they're truly a fan or has the fandom that
brought them in morphed over time because of the rising
valuations of their franchise.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Right you're in the honeymoon phase still with the Mets.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
If you got an owner who's still like the fanboy,
I I'm now rich enough to go buy a team,
Let's have some fun. Right, So you've got that part
of it, and yeah, they waited it out and they
hired the right guy. And we joke about it sternsy
all the time because of our buddy John Palmerosi will
talk to him as the week progresses and we get
ready for Game one. But just that idea of you're
(26:07):
still in that honeymoon phase of what do I need
to do to make this work? And the keys to
the kingdom? Guess what go to a guy who has
a track record of building an organization from in baseball.
You need a minor league system that develops players. Guess
what Mets are finally doing that. They've had a lot
of guys in the in the through the years with hype,
(26:28):
but then it never came to fruition moving. They were
what would we always say, quadruple A players, like right
on the edge but not quite pushing through. And now
you go and you make the investment and a couple
of big players. We'll see if they can actually get
into a bidding war with the Yankees for Soto after
the World Series ends. Bidding starts at six hundred and
fifty million dollars. But all of that to say, with
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the Jets, you got whatdy Johnson. I don't know where
he is on that continuum. He's Jerry Jones with a
little less outward media presence right of can't get out
of his own way. Let's keep firing things, kind of
like Steinbrunner was for a while. It's like next man
in Okay. That doesn't work break neck back the other
way and you're drafting near the top and those guys
(27:14):
aren't given time to develop. You know why, because you
fire the coach and then this time you gave the
quarterback all the all the juice. So Joe Douglas, who
was building a pretty damn good roster suddenly has nothing
other than whatever his marching orders are from Aaron Rodgers
through Woody Johnson and into the field. Doesn't mean DeVante
Adams won't work and have some biggest impact was the
(27:36):
tackling made at the one game, which kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Paull it did was, hey, we delayed a touchdown for
a play. Thanks DeVante. You appreciate it, but just saw.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
The offense move a little bit. But you fired. You know,
the the key to what your team was the guy
that ran the defense, and now you have to cobble
that back together. So that doesn't work as a guy.
That's Look, I'm a Chicago sports fan except the Gubs.
I've watched it in all those organizations. Why there's been
chance and signage for sell the team related to.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Everybody for years?
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Right, the Bears might have finally gotten it right, but
it wasn't something anybody anticipated. It was still they can
they please sell the team and move forward? Now you
got mccaskey's standing there cheesing with people in London because
everybody's thrilled about Caleb Williams in the direction that things
are headed. Will it have long sustained success maybe, But
(28:31):
I've walked through that desert with you for many a year.
For the White Sox. Man two thousand and five's a
lifetime ago.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Man, just rematiner.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
When you have those top three positions, look at what
you can accomplish, and when you.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Don't, you get what you get.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Why it's such rarefied error, why we clamor for it
and wish for it at the crossroads.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Going back to the eighties and Chardayd making his way
into the arena The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen
live from the Tirack dot Com studios, And uh, I
don't know if a fad accomplete at this point, but
certainly Lamar Jackson is gonna be the favorite to win
MVP again. I think he overtook fun today five touchdowns
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tonight against the Bucks. The Bucks led this game ten
to nothing, and that was the end of the good
times for the Bucks. The Ravens got up thirty seven
to ten, and as you know, the Ravens sometimes have
trouble holding onto leads, and the Bucks were able to
eat into it a little bit, but still forty one
thirty one is the win. Lamar Jackson is just short
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of a perfect quarterback rating for the night. He had
more touchdowns and incompletions. And in a year in which
Lamar Jackson's done this so far, you wonder how the
hell they lost to the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
But a guy that is really I don't think else
said you've seen in your life?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Has uh that's you?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
And how did they such consternation as a Ravens loss
to the rad How did.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
The Raiders in that fourth quarter?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
How did they do anyway, You're talking about Lamar Jackson,
who has won two MVPs right in twenty nineteen, and
he won it again last year when nobody wanted No
One's gonna No One mighty to gi him an offer
before last year.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
That really does come down.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Okay, guys going to the Hall of Fame. He's gonna
win the MVP again this year. But this is what's
this is what's different about this year is that this
is the best version of Lamar Jackson that we have seen.
He is on pace for a career a high or
or surpassing his career high in yards, and it's not
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even gonna be close. Like he's gonna blow by the
thirty six hundred yards he threw for last year. His
quarterback rating is going to blow past the rating he
set last year at one oh two. This is the
best version of Lamar Jackson that we've seen because while
he is still doing Lamar Jackson things running the football,
he is much better and much more efficient throwing the ball.
(31:09):
And this is a team where hey, one week, it
could be Isaiah Likely, one week it's Mark Andrews. One
week in say Flowers, one week it's for Sean Bateman.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Like this is.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
They don't have a great group of wide receivers here,
but they have enough talent. And you know, sometimes when
you play with guys and you have another couple of
years with them, and he's had a couple of years
now with all of these weapons, it's not like we're
changing out.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
We're changing out.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Certainly, adding Derek Henry is big in the rushing game
because you have someone who is dependable that you don't
you give the ball to. You can get you tough yards.
But this is the best that we've seen Lamar Jackson.
We've seen bigger highlights from him, but the best overall
play this year, week to week, this is the best
version of Lamar Jackson that we've seen. He is not
he has not, but you've gone into a game and
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you say, oh, man, what a stinker he put up. Now,
he's had games better than others, but he's had no
States this year. You look at his his quarterback rating
in the last five games, his lowest rating is one fifteen.
He has been phenomenal. He's been efficient, he's been able
to move the ball up and down the field. There
is no hey, Lamar is gonna be inaccurate down the
field with the football. You're gonna be able to get
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the football back stop him from making plays in the pocket.
This is the best version of Lamar Jackson we have
seen in his NFL career.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Completing sixty eight percent of his pass is, fifteen touchdowns,
two picks after Tonight's barrage against the Buccaneers. Rashad Bateman
was a late first round pick coming out of Minnesota,
finally finding his space. Now obviously that the big touchdown
pass he was standing by himself.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, you got it. Run the round them all still
got to get there. Yeah, So you don't just let
your old time out. Look how wide open you just
give it a touchout.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I mean, look, we got plenty of examples to the contrary,
but dual tight end Derrick Henry to this point, you
know what, he's healthy. Something the running backs in Baltimore
we're not able to do. Ronnie Stanley is upright, that's
and that can't be understated. Good good work Todd Mounkin
and what he's doing as the offensive coordinator. But that
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offensive line has gone through its trials as well. And
and Ronnie Stanley was a guy that was on his
projected path towards, if not a Hall of Fame, very
much consideration. And then he's been missing giant chunks of
time the last couple of years, playing through a lot
of injuries as well. He's healthy and able to get
(33:29):
out and spring Derrick Henry for some of these big
runs that he's got. So you've got a balance and uh,
you could pull the strings unlike before Andrews and likely
when you need him to stay in. Guess what they'll
commit to blocking again something a lot of tight ends
team to team, and you know which ones you're talking about,
Guys that won't do that. They're pass catchers at this point.
(33:51):
They've got everybody all in, every every.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
And and that's and that's a huge deal. Is when
you can get that buy in from everybody into what
you're doing and you're not flipping weapons every year. It's
like that they decided over the past couple of years. Okay,
these are our guys. We love Mark Andrews, we're keeping him.
We like Isaiah likely right, and he's had a couple
of big games, but Zay Flowers is our number one.
(34:14):
We like Bateman in the role that he has and
on down the line and This is Lamar Jackson now
with a couple of years with all of these guys,
and it's not like all these guys are lighting it up.
But it doesn't matter because Lamar Jackson's finding the right guy.
One week it's Andrews, one week it's Bateman, one week
it's Flowers. I mean, this is the best we have
seen him play.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Justice Hill is a change of pace guy, and a
receiver out of the backfield has been very good for
them as well. So you add it all together, you've
got a really good mix. And for Lamar Jackson, the
game looks that much easier, so it's good. This is
the best version of Lamar Jackson we have seen in
his career. He's also gonna rush for more yards than
he has in four years at this point.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Coming up next, we have a big developing story out
of the NFL. To get you caught up on. Jason
and Mike. This is Fox Sports Radio.
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